WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:07.600 Mike check Mike check check Mike my name's Mike, and I'm checking Mike check test one two 2 00:00:08.240 --> 00:00:10.240 It's just me and you 3 00:00:10.960 --> 00:00:15.580 Rodden in the passenger seat listen in to this fat beat 4 00:00:21.080 --> 00:00:23.080 Christmas 5 00:00:30.040 --> 00:00:46.760 Come back to another episode here at the way if you've never heard of us now you know the way we're gonna hit you with the truth and 6 00:00:46.760 --> 00:00:52.760 The life today a you stay tuned for that. I'm joined by my two hosts 7 00:00:53.840 --> 00:00:56.240 Michelle and Zoe 8 00:00:56.240 --> 00:01:01.240 We, and if you haven't seen me before, I'm Zach. 9 00:01:01.240 --> 00:01:02.240 Yep. 10 00:01:02.240 --> 00:01:04.440 We're gonna get into it in just a second, 11 00:01:04.440 --> 00:01:06.160 but we have a little surprise. 12 00:01:06.160 --> 00:01:07.960 We've brought out our Christmas apparel 13 00:01:07.960 --> 00:01:09.840 for the first time this year. 14 00:01:09.840 --> 00:01:10.680 Yeah. 15 00:01:10.680 --> 00:01:12.600 Somebody screened. 16 00:01:12.600 --> 00:01:15.000 But we haven't showed each other ours. 17 00:01:15.000 --> 00:01:17.800 Quickly give your clue word of what it is 18 00:01:17.800 --> 00:01:18.800 before you show it. 19 00:01:18.800 --> 00:01:19.640 What's yours? 20 00:01:19.640 --> 00:01:20.800 Me. 21 00:01:20.800 --> 00:01:21.640 Oh, bros. 22 00:01:23.120 --> 00:01:23.960 Wait, what was mine? 23 00:01:23.960 --> 00:01:25.480 Multibers. 24 00:01:25.480 --> 00:01:26.320 Multibers, thank you. 25 00:01:30.640 --> 00:01:32.240 OK, OK, OK, who's going first? 26 00:01:32.240 --> 00:01:34.960 Oh, and is he also called Zach and Nad? 27 00:01:34.960 --> 00:01:37.280 Is he, is he salmining, call me, nerd? 28 00:01:37.280 --> 00:01:41.520 Type the nerdy emoji in the comments section. 29 00:01:41.520 --> 00:01:42.360 Oh, OK. 30 00:01:42.360 --> 00:01:43.240 We're so excited to reveal them. 31 00:01:43.240 --> 00:01:44.240 OK, go first, go first. 32 00:01:44.240 --> 00:01:45.640 Oh, we're not doing so tough. 33 00:01:45.640 --> 00:01:47.760 Yeah, yeah, I'm going to, what should we do 34 00:01:47.760 --> 00:01:48.440 at all at the same time? 35 00:01:48.440 --> 00:01:49.440 Oh, my God. 36 00:01:49.440 --> 00:01:50.840 OK, OK, OK, OK, OK. 37 00:01:50.840 --> 00:01:51.840 Ready? 38 00:01:51.840 --> 00:01:53.640 Three, three, two, one. 39 00:01:55.480 --> 00:01:56.480 I'm scared. 40 00:02:02.720 --> 00:02:05.440 Wait, what the heck? 41 00:02:05.440 --> 00:02:07.480 OK, yours is definitely best. 42 00:02:07.480 --> 00:02:08.800 It's gone. 43 00:02:08.800 --> 00:02:12.240 I want that birthday boy, Lisa. 44 00:02:12.240 --> 00:02:15.200 So Michelle says birthday boy, Jesus. 45 00:02:15.200 --> 00:02:18.400 Zoe literally says Zoe. 46 00:02:18.400 --> 00:02:21.960 I'm going to go into my juxtaposition. 47 00:02:21.960 --> 00:02:23.480 He's on the juxtaposition. 48 00:02:26.120 --> 00:02:29.120 Check. 49 00:02:29.120 --> 00:02:30.800 Oh, birthday boy, Lisa. 50 00:02:30.800 --> 00:02:33.320 Wait, that was, what is Obrose? 51 00:02:33.320 --> 00:02:35.200 So the Obrose, check them out, guys. 52 00:02:35.200 --> 00:02:36.440 And Instagram, they're in creed. 53 00:02:36.440 --> 00:02:40.440 They've got, they're these German, they're these brothers. 54 00:02:40.440 --> 00:02:45.280 Basically, they do German, Christian, rapping music. 55 00:02:45.280 --> 00:02:46.280 Oh, thank you. 56 00:02:46.280 --> 00:02:48.200 And they're my sister-in-law's cousins. 57 00:02:48.200 --> 00:02:50.000 So kind of related. 58 00:02:50.000 --> 00:02:52.600 So happy birthday, Jesus. 59 00:02:52.600 --> 00:02:57.880 Hey, we're now comfortably sat, enjoy viewing our Christmas 60 00:02:57.880 --> 00:02:58.800 apparel. 61 00:02:58.800 --> 00:03:01.200 And, hey, we're going to jump into the Bible. 62 00:03:01.200 --> 00:03:04.760 We're going to talk about the Christmas story, Part One 63 00:03:04.760 --> 00:03:05.760 today. 64 00:03:05.760 --> 00:03:06.960 Let's get into it. 65 00:03:06.960 --> 00:03:10.400 We're going to look a little bit at two characters and two 66 00:03:10.400 --> 00:03:11.240 books. 67 00:03:11.240 --> 00:03:14.440 The two characters are ordinary Mary. 68 00:03:17.240 --> 00:03:18.440 It's a really funny name. 69 00:03:18.440 --> 00:03:22.400 And Joseph, what was our name for Joseph? 70 00:03:22.760 --> 00:03:24.120 Just Joe, big Joe. 71 00:03:24.120 --> 00:03:25.520 Joseph is an honorable character. 72 00:03:25.520 --> 00:03:27.720 Joseph, it's valid. 73 00:03:27.720 --> 00:03:31.840 And the two books we're going to look at are Matthew and Luke. 74 00:03:31.840 --> 00:03:34.600 These are two of the gospels we have that detail Jesus 75 00:03:34.600 --> 00:03:34.880 life. 76 00:03:34.880 --> 00:03:38.680 I thought we could start there and kind of get a little background 77 00:03:38.680 --> 00:03:41.600 on that before we jump into what happened at Christmas, 78 00:03:41.600 --> 00:03:44.360 why have we been celebrating this for 2,000 years? 79 00:03:44.360 --> 00:03:51.040 And who are these characters, not Martha, Mary and Joseph? 80 00:03:51.040 --> 00:03:51.840 I can't talk today. 81 00:03:51.840 --> 00:03:53.600 We're on a long, long sibling, OK. 82 00:03:53.600 --> 00:03:57.880 We'll go more in depth into these characters in the story 83 00:03:57.880 --> 00:03:59.960 and actually just look further in what 84 00:03:59.960 --> 00:04:01.600 happens in the next episode. 85 00:04:01.600 --> 00:04:04.760 So stay tuned for the Christmas episode, Part Two. 86 00:04:04.760 --> 00:04:05.280 Yes, sir. 87 00:04:05.280 --> 00:04:10.160 But for now, sorry, yes, sir. 88 00:04:10.160 --> 00:04:11.160 Yes, sir. 89 00:04:11.160 --> 00:04:12.040 Oh, yes, sir. 90 00:04:12.040 --> 00:04:13.240 Yeah, cool. 91 00:04:13.240 --> 00:04:16.400 Sorry, I almost can't see you because of Santa here. 92 00:04:16.400 --> 00:04:18.560 He's so cute, though. 93 00:04:18.560 --> 00:04:20.520 I'm just going to move him back a little bit. 94 00:04:20.520 --> 00:04:21.240 OK, all right. 95 00:04:21.240 --> 00:04:23.160 Come on. 96 00:04:23.160 --> 00:04:26.440 OK, so my first question to you guys, 97 00:04:26.440 --> 00:04:28.640 that's going to, that'll just open up the conversation, 98 00:04:28.640 --> 00:04:31.600 is, why do we have four gospels? 99 00:04:31.600 --> 00:04:33.520 What's the importance of having, like, why don't we just 100 00:04:33.520 --> 00:04:34.720 have one? 101 00:04:34.720 --> 00:04:37.280 Why do we need to have more than one? 102 00:04:37.280 --> 00:04:39.560 Because a lot of the stories are the same. 103 00:04:39.560 --> 00:04:40.360 Some of them are different. 104 00:04:40.360 --> 00:04:42.640 But it's a lot of the same content. 105 00:04:42.640 --> 00:04:45.560 What's the purpose of having the same stories 106 00:04:45.560 --> 00:04:46.880 told by different people? 107 00:04:46.880 --> 00:04:49.120 What do you think? 108 00:04:49.120 --> 00:04:52.840 I think it solidifies the truth of Jesus Christ, 109 00:04:52.840 --> 00:04:54.640 first and foremost. 110 00:04:54.640 --> 00:04:58.480 I think when you have different accounts of the same story, 111 00:04:58.480 --> 00:05:02.040 but from different people, it just, like, 112 00:05:02.040 --> 00:05:05.080 it makes the story more true, especially if they have 113 00:05:05.080 --> 00:05:07.600 little differences as well. 114 00:05:07.600 --> 00:05:11.240 I heard that, someone say that, like a scholar or something. 115 00:05:11.240 --> 00:05:13.680 Like, if all eyewitness testimonies say 116 00:05:13.680 --> 00:05:16.560 were the same for, like, a crime that somebody witnessed, 117 00:05:16.600 --> 00:05:19.800 it would be less likely that that is actually the case, 118 00:05:19.800 --> 00:05:21.840 whereas if they have slight differences, 119 00:05:21.840 --> 00:05:23.560 then it's more likely to be true. 120 00:05:23.560 --> 00:05:27.560 But also, the fact that they are written 121 00:05:27.560 --> 00:05:30.680 to different audiences, like these gospels. 122 00:05:30.680 --> 00:05:31.520 Totally more. 123 00:05:31.520 --> 00:05:35.880 Like, the book of Matthew was more directed to the Jews 124 00:05:35.880 --> 00:05:36.880 at the time. 125 00:05:36.880 --> 00:05:41.720 And so it mentions more of the, like, old Testament prophecies, 126 00:05:41.720 --> 00:05:45.840 like, even starting with, like, the lineage of Jesus, 127 00:05:45.840 --> 00:05:48.200 like, showing that he's, like, from the root of David, 128 00:05:48.200 --> 00:05:52.800 which was, like, prophesied in Isaiah, am I correct? 129 00:05:52.800 --> 00:05:54.840 Yeah, I think it was prophesied in a couple of places. 130 00:05:54.840 --> 00:05:57.080 A couple of places, every year. 131 00:05:57.080 --> 00:05:59.840 Sorry, more than appropriate. 132 00:05:59.840 --> 00:06:04.320 And then the book of Luke, which was more towards Gentiles 133 00:06:04.320 --> 00:06:06.760 and letting them know that the gospel isn't just for them, 134 00:06:06.760 --> 00:06:08.640 actually don't know. 135 00:06:08.640 --> 00:06:11.120 John is its kind of own thing in itself. 136 00:06:11.120 --> 00:06:13.960 It's, like, very different in style 137 00:06:13.960 --> 00:06:17.240 and even mirrors Genesis, how it starts. 138 00:06:17.240 --> 00:06:18.720 In the beginning was the Word of the Web was, 139 00:06:18.720 --> 00:06:19.560 God knows what it's going on. 140 00:06:19.560 --> 00:06:22.520 And then Mark, I'm actually not sure. 141 00:06:22.520 --> 00:06:23.600 Mark's pretty short. 142 00:06:23.600 --> 00:06:24.120 Yeah. 143 00:06:24.120 --> 00:06:26.440 It's like a fly through of everything. 144 00:06:27.280 --> 00:06:28.280 Real quick. 145 00:06:28.280 --> 00:06:29.600 He chops it up. 146 00:06:29.600 --> 00:06:30.600 Chops it up. 147 00:06:30.600 --> 00:06:31.440 Yeah. 148 00:06:31.440 --> 00:06:33.360 And we're going to look at those, the two 149 00:06:33.360 --> 00:06:37.120 that you mentioned first, Matthew and Luke. 150 00:06:37.120 --> 00:06:42.440 And I'm curious, he said that Matthew was written 151 00:06:42.440 --> 00:06:44.480 to a Jewish audience. 152 00:06:44.480 --> 00:06:48.920 Why is it important, like, of all the people in the world 153 00:06:48.920 --> 00:06:51.720 that this, that Matthew could have written to? 154 00:06:51.720 --> 00:06:54.520 Why is it important that he's writing to a Jewish audience 155 00:06:54.520 --> 00:06:57.320 specifically versus, like, I'm from Canada. 156 00:06:57.320 --> 00:06:58.840 Why wasn't he writing to a Canadian audience? 157 00:06:58.840 --> 00:07:00.760 Like, I know Canada wasn't actually around like that, 158 00:07:00.760 --> 00:07:03.320 but as an example, that was maybe a silly example, 159 00:07:03.320 --> 00:07:07.160 but as an example, like, why didn't he write to a, 160 00:07:08.320 --> 00:07:11.280 you know, some other Asian background 161 00:07:11.280 --> 00:07:13.200 or a different Middle Eastern culture? 162 00:07:13.200 --> 00:07:15.920 Like, why do you think it was important for that message 163 00:07:15.920 --> 00:07:18.360 to reach the Jewish people specifically? 164 00:07:19.840 --> 00:07:20.720 What do you guys think? 165 00:07:20.720 --> 00:07:25.440 I think of the dome, I would say, 166 00:07:25.440 --> 00:07:27.160 because the Old Testament, like, 167 00:07:27.160 --> 00:07:28.960 all of it was written to Jews. 168 00:07:28.960 --> 00:07:30.480 And the Jews are gods chosen people 169 00:07:30.480 --> 00:07:32.680 and they've been expecting this Messiah. 170 00:07:32.680 --> 00:07:33.560 Like, they're waiting. 171 00:07:33.560 --> 00:07:34.720 They've been waiting. 172 00:07:36.280 --> 00:07:40.040 And so it's important for them to know this is him. 173 00:07:40.040 --> 00:07:41.840 This is the guy you've been waiting for. 174 00:07:41.840 --> 00:07:43.120 Don't miss it. 175 00:07:43.120 --> 00:07:44.040 And this is why. 176 00:07:44.040 --> 00:07:46.280 I feel like it's like Matthew being like this. 177 00:07:46.280 --> 00:07:48.920 Like, you might see this guy, you might think Jesus, 178 00:07:48.920 --> 00:07:50.960 you might think he's not who he says he is, 179 00:07:50.960 --> 00:07:52.160 but he is who he says he is. 180 00:07:52.160 --> 00:07:54.800 And this is why, because look at all of these old 181 00:07:54.800 --> 00:07:56.800 Testament prophecies that you know 182 00:07:56.800 --> 00:07:59.280 because you've learnt these ever since you were a baby 183 00:07:59.280 --> 00:08:02.280 all the way growing up, doing all the things 184 00:08:02.280 --> 00:08:04.960 that you have to do, all the Jewish customs 185 00:08:04.960 --> 00:08:06.880 and teachings. 186 00:08:06.880 --> 00:08:08.520 So like, recognize it. 187 00:08:08.520 --> 00:08:11.080 That's, I don't know, that's just off the top of my head, 188 00:08:11.080 --> 00:08:12.200 just that they would know. 189 00:08:12.200 --> 00:08:13.800 And that is important for them, 190 00:08:13.800 --> 00:08:15.400 because this is their Messiah. 191 00:08:15.400 --> 00:08:16.440 That they've been waiting for. 192 00:08:16.440 --> 00:08:18.480 I don't know, what do you think, Michelle? 193 00:08:18.480 --> 00:08:19.600 I have no extra though. 194 00:08:21.000 --> 00:08:22.000 That. 195 00:08:22.000 --> 00:08:23.480 Yeah, come, come, come. 196 00:08:25.480 --> 00:08:27.840 I think, I think I also like it, 197 00:08:27.840 --> 00:08:32.520 because it serves to show for me 198 00:08:32.520 --> 00:08:35.760 that God is the same throughout all time. 199 00:08:35.760 --> 00:08:39.560 And if God wanted to show up at one point, 200 00:08:39.560 --> 00:08:44.360 that tells me he wants to show up and be known at all points. 201 00:08:44.360 --> 00:08:47.280 And the way that he does that might look different, 202 00:08:47.280 --> 00:08:49.280 but the Old Testament is evidence 203 00:08:49.280 --> 00:08:50.960 that he was doing it before. 204 00:08:50.960 --> 00:08:53.040 And then parts of the New Testament 205 00:08:53.040 --> 00:08:57.080 and testimony of what the Holy Spirit is doing nowadays 206 00:08:57.080 --> 00:08:59.520 is how he's showing up now 207 00:08:59.520 --> 00:09:02.640 after Jesus' physical life here on earth. 208 00:09:03.680 --> 00:09:08.280 And I often hear people say like God seems different 209 00:09:08.280 --> 00:09:11.760 in the Old Testament than he does in Jesus 210 00:09:11.760 --> 00:09:13.320 or even what we see in the church 211 00:09:13.320 --> 00:09:15.440 then after Jesus' life. 212 00:09:16.400 --> 00:09:19.520 But I think the Gospel of Matthew 213 00:09:19.520 --> 00:09:21.480 like bridges that gap really well. 214 00:09:21.480 --> 00:09:25.880 And he brings those prophecies in to also just say like, 215 00:09:25.880 --> 00:09:28.400 yeah, I've been working with this people 216 00:09:28.400 --> 00:09:32.920 and I'm the same God and I've been preparing for this 217 00:09:32.920 --> 00:09:34.800 like way before. 218 00:09:34.800 --> 00:09:38.240 This is, that's the plan, that's the OG plan. 219 00:09:38.240 --> 00:09:40.560 Okay, should we talk a little bit about Luke? 220 00:09:40.560 --> 00:09:41.400 Yes. 221 00:09:41.400 --> 00:09:44.440 Okay, so you said Luke was written to the Gentiles. 222 00:09:44.440 --> 00:09:46.080 Michelle, why is it important 223 00:09:46.080 --> 00:09:48.920 that we would have a Gospel written to the Gentiles? 224 00:09:48.920 --> 00:09:50.080 What's significant? 225 00:09:50.080 --> 00:09:53.560 And like also who the flip are the Gentiles? 226 00:09:53.560 --> 00:09:54.600 Who are they? 227 00:09:54.600 --> 00:09:57.920 Well, simple terms, Gentiles are anyone 228 00:09:59.000 --> 00:10:02.920 of people group that are not Jewish. 229 00:10:02.920 --> 00:10:04.240 Am I correct with the same thing? 230 00:10:04.240 --> 00:10:06.320 You are correct, it's all of us here. 231 00:10:06.320 --> 00:10:07.320 It's all of us here. 232 00:10:07.320 --> 00:10:09.160 Oh, shoot, we're Gentiles. 233 00:10:09.160 --> 00:10:10.000 Yeah, we're the Gentiles. 234 00:10:10.000 --> 00:10:11.000 All right, what up? 235 00:10:11.000 --> 00:10:12.000 What up? 236 00:10:12.000 --> 00:10:12.840 Gentiles. 237 00:10:12.840 --> 00:10:13.680 Thanks Luke, appreciate you. 238 00:10:13.680 --> 00:10:16.520 Yeah, he thought about it. 239 00:10:16.520 --> 00:10:17.360 Yeah, he thought about it. 240 00:10:17.360 --> 00:10:18.200 That's real. 241 00:10:18.200 --> 00:10:21.040 Okay, why is it significant that it would be written 242 00:10:21.040 --> 00:10:22.840 to everyone other than the Jews? 243 00:10:22.840 --> 00:10:25.280 Well, I think like something that just comes 244 00:10:25.280 --> 00:10:28.680 over the top of my head, is that if these books 245 00:10:28.680 --> 00:10:30.040 were only written to the Jews 246 00:10:30.040 --> 00:10:32.840 and it's almost like excluding a whole people group 247 00:10:32.840 --> 00:10:34.840 of like even including us, 248 00:10:34.840 --> 00:10:37.320 and it's almost like where you know, 249 00:10:37.320 --> 00:10:39.680 pushed to the side line because we're not Jewish, 250 00:10:39.680 --> 00:10:40.960 that means none of these things 251 00:10:41.080 --> 00:10:43.320 are applicable to you. 252 00:10:43.320 --> 00:10:44.800 And Luke is almost saying, 253 00:10:44.800 --> 00:10:47.320 hey, no, actually it is. 254 00:10:47.320 --> 00:10:51.000 It's very much for Jew and Gentile that Jesus has come. 255 00:10:51.000 --> 00:10:51.840 So. 256 00:10:51.840 --> 00:10:54.040 Dang, there's no such thing as gospel pho-mo, man. 257 00:10:54.040 --> 00:10:55.520 There's not. 258 00:10:55.520 --> 00:10:59.840 Because you're only missing out on your own accord, all right? 259 00:10:59.840 --> 00:11:01.760 Your own accord? 260 00:11:01.760 --> 00:11:03.720 Tell them, Zach, it's everyone. 261 00:11:03.720 --> 00:11:04.920 Is it you, Zach? 262 00:11:04.920 --> 00:11:06.200 Yeah, yeah. 263 00:11:06.200 --> 00:11:09.760 If you're a Jewish person, Matthew been writing to you. 264 00:11:09.760 --> 00:11:12.480 He gave your Gentile like us sitting right here 265 00:11:12.480 --> 00:11:13.480 in this room. 266 00:11:13.480 --> 00:11:15.280 Luke been writing to you. 267 00:11:15.280 --> 00:11:17.600 So the only way you're missing out 268 00:11:17.600 --> 00:11:19.600 is of your own choices. 269 00:11:19.600 --> 00:11:22.000 So lock in and talk to each person, 270 00:11:22.000 --> 00:11:23.040 that pho-mo anymore. 271 00:11:23.040 --> 00:11:24.400 You don't got to miss out on life to full. 272 00:11:24.400 --> 00:11:25.600 Anyways, that was a little break 273 00:11:25.600 --> 00:11:27.200 from what we were actually talking about. 274 00:11:27.200 --> 00:11:28.800 I just wanted to breach a little there. 275 00:11:28.800 --> 00:11:32.160 Yeah, come on, dude, it's a church pastor. 276 00:11:32.160 --> 00:11:33.360 Come on. 277 00:11:33.360 --> 00:11:36.440 I think that leads us into one of the things we want 278 00:11:36.440 --> 00:11:38.600 to do as well when we read the Bible is not just 279 00:11:38.600 --> 00:11:43.000 understand who was written to, but where it was written from. 280 00:11:43.000 --> 00:11:47.400 And both the author's Matthew and Luke 281 00:11:47.400 --> 00:11:53.280 are writing detailed descriptions of Jesus' life and teaching. 282 00:11:53.280 --> 00:11:57.240 But Jesus came to earth in a particular place. 283 00:11:57.240 --> 00:12:01.480 He came to Israel like 2,000 years ago. 284 00:12:01.480 --> 00:12:04.680 And so we need to understand Israel 2,000 years ago 285 00:12:04.680 --> 00:12:06.360 to some degree. 286 00:12:06.360 --> 00:12:09.400 So I thought I'd just share a couple of things 287 00:12:09.400 --> 00:12:13.240 that I've learned as I've been studying at university 288 00:12:13.240 --> 00:12:16.440 and just picked up an attending church 289 00:12:16.440 --> 00:12:18.040 for the past couple of years. 290 00:12:18.040 --> 00:12:20.920 So some interesting things are, yes, 291 00:12:20.920 --> 00:12:25.320 the people of Israel have been walking with God 292 00:12:25.320 --> 00:12:31.320 for probably somewhere between 1,000, 2,000 years at this point. 293 00:12:31.600 --> 00:12:34.920 But particularly in the last roughly 400 years 294 00:12:34.920 --> 00:12:36.720 of 4 Jesus is born. 295 00:12:36.720 --> 00:12:39.600 There's what's known as kind of like the silent period 296 00:12:39.600 --> 00:12:41.840 where they don't really hear from God in a while. 297 00:12:41.840 --> 00:12:44.680 But they have loads and loads of promises 298 00:12:44.680 --> 00:12:48.280 and particularly prophecies of things 299 00:12:48.280 --> 00:12:51.480 that the Lord has said will happen in time. 300 00:12:51.480 --> 00:12:54.080 So there are people who are waiting. 301 00:12:54.080 --> 00:12:57.400 And the biggest promise they're waiting for is Messiah. 302 00:12:57.400 --> 00:13:03.720 And most of them think that it's going to be kind of this 303 00:13:03.720 --> 00:13:05.600 political ruler. 304 00:13:05.600 --> 00:13:08.440 So and one of the reasons they thought this was, 305 00:13:08.440 --> 00:13:10.520 well, the wording of the prophecies 306 00:13:10.520 --> 00:13:14.280 was open to interpretation as most prophecies are. 307 00:13:14.280 --> 00:13:18.200 But mostly because at the time that Jesus came, 308 00:13:18.200 --> 00:13:20.560 right at the end of that 400 years, 309 00:13:20.560 --> 00:13:23.360 Israel came under Roman occupation. 310 00:13:23.360 --> 00:13:26.280 So they were living in the land, 311 00:13:26.280 --> 00:13:30.360 but they were almost like, I guess you could say, 312 00:13:31.080 --> 00:13:36.280 servants in some way to the Roman authorities. 313 00:13:36.680 --> 00:13:38.400 And so they were like massively oppressed. 314 00:13:38.400 --> 00:13:42.000 And so they read it from the context of that 315 00:13:42.000 --> 00:13:43.240 and they wanted freedom. 316 00:13:43.240 --> 00:13:46.840 And then it's also important to note that there were loads of, 317 00:13:46.840 --> 00:13:50.280 you'll read like people like Pharisees and Sadducees 318 00:13:50.280 --> 00:13:52.320 who were like these religious authorities 319 00:13:52.320 --> 00:13:54.840 that were in the Jewish land, 320 00:13:54.840 --> 00:13:58.120 but held up all these laws from the Old Testament and all of that. 321 00:13:58.120 --> 00:13:59.720 So that's a little bit of background. 322 00:13:59.720 --> 00:14:03.120 Sorry, that was a little bit of a just monologue there. 323 00:14:04.320 --> 00:14:07.920 But do you have any questions on any of that that I've just said 324 00:14:07.920 --> 00:14:10.600 or anything you guys want to clarify in that 325 00:14:10.600 --> 00:14:13.160 or like add anything in that I've missed? 326 00:14:13.160 --> 00:14:15.240 If not, we can we move on. 327 00:14:15.240 --> 00:14:18.160 How did you know how the Jewish people 328 00:14:18.160 --> 00:14:20.680 expected the Messiah to come? 329 00:14:20.680 --> 00:14:25.080 Like what was that expectation of this Messiah? 330 00:14:25.080 --> 00:14:27.360 They were looking for people to like somebody 331 00:14:27.360 --> 00:14:29.120 to free them from this oppression. 332 00:14:29.120 --> 00:14:32.280 Whether that be political or military leader. 333 00:14:32.280 --> 00:14:33.320 So they probably won't. 334 00:14:33.320 --> 00:14:34.520 Yeah, sorry. 335 00:14:34.520 --> 00:14:37.040 They're probably when expecting a little baby. 336 00:14:37.040 --> 00:14:39.200 No, a little baby Jesus. 337 00:14:39.200 --> 00:14:40.720 A little baby Jesus. 338 00:14:40.720 --> 00:14:44.760 Imagine you expected like this huge military leader 339 00:14:44.760 --> 00:14:46.280 to come and save you. 340 00:14:46.280 --> 00:14:49.240 And then it's just a baby. 341 00:14:49.240 --> 00:14:49.840 Yeah. 342 00:14:49.840 --> 00:14:51.320 I'd be like, yeah, what? 343 00:14:51.320 --> 00:14:54.960 And they do have like, you can give them the benefit of the doubt for that 344 00:14:54.960 --> 00:14:58.200 because like in the past they've had like what? 345 00:14:59.400 --> 00:15:03.040 Political, like who'd you have historical figures like Moses? 346 00:15:03.040 --> 00:15:03.800 His Joshua. 347 00:15:03.800 --> 00:15:04.800 Joshua. 348 00:15:04.800 --> 00:15:06.040 All of them are. 349 00:15:06.040 --> 00:15:10.120 So of course they were going to like expect similar figure. 350 00:15:10.120 --> 00:15:15.440 And recently I think I think I as far as I remember, 351 00:15:15.440 --> 00:15:17.040 I heard this in a lecture a really long time ago, 352 00:15:17.040 --> 00:15:20.080 so I could just get this completely wrong to take with a grain of salt. 353 00:15:20.080 --> 00:15:24.760 But I'm pretty sure 100 to 150 years before Jesus came, 354 00:15:24.760 --> 00:15:26.840 there was the Maccabeean revolt, 355 00:15:26.840 --> 00:15:29.560 which was the family of the Maccabees, 356 00:15:29.560 --> 00:15:35.240 and they essentially like led an uprising against the authorities of the time. 357 00:15:35.240 --> 00:15:39.160 And I think it was Judas Maccabeeus 358 00:15:39.160 --> 00:15:44.200 rode into Jerusalem on like a big horse 359 00:15:44.200 --> 00:15:48.960 with all of his like armor and stuff and people behind him. 360 00:15:48.960 --> 00:15:54.520 And so I think that also then informed the expectation of what was to come 361 00:15:54.520 --> 00:15:58.760 because that didn't bring total freedom, but it brought partial freedom. 362 00:15:58.760 --> 00:16:05.000 And so I think that is also one of the big, big reasons why they expected someone. 363 00:16:05.000 --> 00:16:07.400 And that's also why it's cool we later see in Jesus' life, 364 00:16:07.400 --> 00:16:10.600 this is just a side note, but he rides in on a donkey, 365 00:16:10.600 --> 00:16:13.680 which subverts the expectations. 366 00:16:13.680 --> 00:16:16.840 So anyways, yeah, that's a great question. 367 00:16:16.840 --> 00:16:17.840 Thanks. 368 00:16:17.840 --> 00:16:18.840 Thank you. 369 00:16:18.840 --> 00:16:19.840 Thank you. 370 00:16:19.840 --> 00:16:20.840 Thanks. 371 00:16:20.840 --> 00:16:22.920 Should we look a little bit at Mary? 372 00:16:22.920 --> 00:16:23.920 Yes. 373 00:16:23.920 --> 00:16:25.440 Okay, let's look at Mary. 374 00:16:25.440 --> 00:16:30.640 Why don't I have everyone in the room and watching or listening 375 00:16:30.640 --> 00:16:34.080 if you have a Bible near you or you just want to search it up? 376 00:16:34.080 --> 00:16:36.280 Flip to the gospel of Luke. 377 00:16:36.280 --> 00:16:38.880 If you're in, Mark, you need to go a little bit further. 378 00:16:38.880 --> 00:16:41.080 If you're in John, you've gone too far. 379 00:16:41.080 --> 00:16:42.600 That's a good idea. 380 00:16:42.600 --> 00:16:46.320 That's why I say to my young people sometimes, the younger ones. 381 00:16:46.320 --> 00:16:47.320 It's helpful. 382 00:16:47.320 --> 00:16:48.320 Yeah, it's helpful. 383 00:16:48.320 --> 00:16:50.320 Because they'll be like, I'm in John. 384 00:16:50.320 --> 00:16:51.320 Where do I go? 385 00:16:51.480 --> 00:16:54.600 Yeah, so come back a little bit if you're in John. 386 00:16:54.600 --> 00:17:01.240 And we're going to read verse 26 to 38. 387 00:17:01.240 --> 00:17:02.240 Yeah. 388 00:17:02.240 --> 00:17:07.000 And we're going to look at a little bit of the story of Mary. 389 00:17:07.000 --> 00:17:08.000 I'm going to read it. 390 00:17:08.000 --> 00:17:10.080 And then let's just discuss like, who is Mary? 391 00:17:10.080 --> 00:17:11.280 What can we draw out of this story? 392 00:17:11.280 --> 00:17:13.200 All that good stuff. 393 00:17:13.200 --> 00:17:15.200 Okay, here we go. 394 00:17:15.200 --> 00:17:17.200 Oh gosh, actually, do one of you guys want to read? 395 00:17:17.200 --> 00:17:18.840 I've just read so much today. 396 00:17:18.840 --> 00:17:20.000 Michelle, why don't you read it? 397 00:17:20.000 --> 00:17:20.840 Cool. 398 00:17:20.920 --> 00:17:23.480 In the sixth month of Elizabeth's pregnancy, 399 00:17:23.480 --> 00:17:26.960 God sent the angel Gabriel to Nazareth, a town in Galilee, 400 00:17:26.960 --> 00:17:30.120 to Virgin Pledge to be married to a man named Joseph, 401 00:17:30.120 --> 00:17:31.800 a descendant of David. 402 00:17:31.800 --> 00:17:33.400 The Virgin's name was Mary. 403 00:17:33.400 --> 00:17:35.520 The angel went to her and said, greetings. 404 00:17:35.520 --> 00:17:38.720 You who are highly favored, the Lord is with you. 405 00:17:38.720 --> 00:17:40.960 Mary was greatly troubled at his words 406 00:17:40.960 --> 00:17:44.240 and wondered what kind of greeting this might be. 407 00:17:44.240 --> 00:17:46.560 But the angel said to her, do not be afraid. 408 00:17:46.560 --> 00:17:49.000 Mary, you have found favor with God. 409 00:17:49.000 --> 00:17:51.160 You will conceive and give birth to the Son 410 00:17:51.160 --> 00:17:53.040 and you have to call him Jesus. 411 00:17:53.040 --> 00:17:56.720 He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High. 412 00:17:56.720 --> 00:17:59.800 The Lord God will give him the throne of his father, David, 413 00:17:59.800 --> 00:18:02.840 and he will reign over Jacob's descendants forever. 414 00:18:02.840 --> 00:18:04.960 His kingdom will never end. 415 00:18:04.960 --> 00:18:07.040 How will this be, Mary, or the angel? 416 00:18:07.040 --> 00:18:09.480 Since I'm a Virgin, the angel answered, 417 00:18:09.480 --> 00:18:11.120 the Holy Spirit will come on you 418 00:18:11.120 --> 00:18:14.080 and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. 419 00:18:14.080 --> 00:18:18.240 So the Holy One to be born will be called the Son of God. 420 00:18:18.280 --> 00:18:19.800 Even Elizabeth, your relative, 421 00:18:19.800 --> 00:18:22.720 is going to have a child in her old age. 422 00:18:22.720 --> 00:18:26.440 And she who was said to be unable to conceive 423 00:18:26.440 --> 00:18:28.240 is in her sixth month. 424 00:18:28.240 --> 00:18:31.560 Well, for no words from God will ever fail. 425 00:18:31.560 --> 00:18:32.400 Amen. 426 00:18:32.400 --> 00:18:36.000 I am the Lord's servant, Mary answered. 427 00:18:36.000 --> 00:18:38.120 May your word to me be fulfilled 428 00:18:38.120 --> 00:18:39.960 than the angel left him. 429 00:18:39.960 --> 00:18:41.560 Hmm, amen. 430 00:18:41.560 --> 00:18:43.160 Amen, amen. 431 00:18:43.160 --> 00:18:45.040 Okay, talk to me. 432 00:18:45.040 --> 00:18:47.840 Who was Mary? 433 00:18:47.840 --> 00:18:51.160 Do we know anything about this gal? 434 00:18:51.160 --> 00:18:55.120 Mary was an ordinary, ordinary, young girl. 435 00:18:55.120 --> 00:18:57.440 I think she was a teenager. 436 00:18:57.440 --> 00:19:00.720 She's just an ordinary girl. 437 00:19:00.720 --> 00:19:02.360 She was a Nazarene. 438 00:19:02.360 --> 00:19:07.560 And Nazareth was like a village that's kind of far from Jerusalem, 439 00:19:07.560 --> 00:19:09.960 far from the hustle and bustle of the big city. 440 00:19:09.960 --> 00:19:12.280 So she grew up in a rural area. 441 00:19:12.280 --> 00:19:16.320 So people wouldn't have really thought like anything of Nazareth. 442 00:19:16.320 --> 00:19:18.200 It would have just been like, 443 00:19:18.200 --> 00:19:19.440 oh, you're from Nazareth. 444 00:19:19.440 --> 00:19:22.360 Okay, so she was just from Nazareth. 445 00:19:22.360 --> 00:19:25.760 And she was just a faithful, young, 446 00:19:25.760 --> 00:19:28.320 Jewish girl who loved God. 447 00:19:28.320 --> 00:19:32.040 And there was nothing out, like, extraordinary about her. 448 00:19:32.040 --> 00:19:36.280 She was just a very normal, normal girl, the lover of God. 449 00:19:36.280 --> 00:19:37.280 Yeah. 450 00:19:37.280 --> 00:19:41.000 Until bam, Angel Gabriel came and said, 451 00:19:41.000 --> 00:19:43.640 did sharp change up. 452 00:19:43.640 --> 00:19:45.960 Angel Gabriel came and said, 453 00:19:45.960 --> 00:19:49.240 the Lord has chosen you because you are highly favored. 454 00:19:49.240 --> 00:19:52.600 But she was, she was young, like, like that's crazy. 455 00:19:52.600 --> 00:19:54.960 Teenagers is crazy. 456 00:19:54.960 --> 00:19:57.720 Yeah, I think at the time, culturally, 457 00:19:57.720 --> 00:19:59.160 I think I'm correct. 458 00:19:59.160 --> 00:20:04.360 That was common for people to like, to get married quite young. 459 00:20:04.360 --> 00:20:07.200 Which, yeah, puts our modern minds to ease a little bit. 460 00:20:07.200 --> 00:20:08.760 Yeah, it wasn't like I would. 461 00:20:08.760 --> 00:20:10.520 Don't worry, no angel by the path into your room, 462 00:20:10.520 --> 00:20:11.840 tell you they can be pregnant. 463 00:20:11.840 --> 00:20:13.160 Yeah, don't worry. 464 00:20:13.160 --> 00:20:14.920 Well, I don't know. 465 00:20:14.920 --> 00:20:15.920 Just kidding. 466 00:20:15.920 --> 00:20:16.920 Wait a minute. 467 00:20:18.360 --> 00:20:23.440 Ordinary teenager outside of like off the beaten path in life, 468 00:20:23.440 --> 00:20:26.960 but also just in the land, culture she's living in. 469 00:20:26.960 --> 00:20:29.720 Why would God choose Mary? 470 00:20:29.720 --> 00:20:32.360 She seems like an unusual suspect. 471 00:20:32.360 --> 00:20:33.800 Mm. 472 00:20:33.800 --> 00:20:36.920 I think that the one thing that set her apart was her faith. 473 00:20:36.920 --> 00:20:37.920 Mm. 474 00:20:38.160 --> 00:20:42.120 Like God chose her because he trusted her. 475 00:20:42.120 --> 00:20:44.920 And he believed her character. 476 00:20:44.920 --> 00:20:47.440 Like, he fully, someone through nine, 477 00:20:47.440 --> 00:20:49.920 he fully knows her and he fully loves her. 478 00:20:49.920 --> 00:20:54.080 So, so, she's just known by God. 479 00:20:54.080 --> 00:20:54.920 Yeah. 480 00:20:54.920 --> 00:20:57.520 And she knows God and she loves God. 481 00:20:57.520 --> 00:21:01.720 And I think as well, well, like in the way she responds 482 00:21:01.720 --> 00:21:04.360 Yeah, I was going to say to Gabriel, 483 00:21:04.360 --> 00:21:09.160 it's like actually crazy how willing she is 484 00:21:09.160 --> 00:21:11.200 and how calm she is just off the bat. 485 00:21:11.200 --> 00:21:16.840 Like that is crazy and that is fruit of a really strong faith in God. 486 00:21:16.840 --> 00:21:18.160 She didn't doubt, she just said, 487 00:21:18.160 --> 00:21:20.160 okay, like I am your servant. 488 00:21:20.160 --> 00:21:22.440 Like Lord, may your word be fulfilled. 489 00:21:22.440 --> 00:21:23.440 Yes. 490 00:21:23.440 --> 00:21:25.240 Isn't that crazy? 491 00:21:25.240 --> 00:21:28.440 Yeah, I mean, she wasn't given any context to what was happening. 492 00:21:28.440 --> 00:21:32.440 Why on earth is she going to be bearing a child with the spirit? 493 00:21:33.280 --> 00:21:35.920 But then, yes, again, she gave God her yes. 494 00:21:35.920 --> 00:21:39.200 And I think that's like, we can bring it even back to our own context 495 00:21:39.200 --> 00:21:42.200 where God has probably asked you of something 496 00:21:42.200 --> 00:21:45.240 hasn't given you the full context of why. 497 00:21:45.240 --> 00:21:46.880 And you're like, Flip, 498 00:21:46.880 --> 00:21:49.320 am I giving God my yes in that? 499 00:21:49.320 --> 00:21:52.400 And I love Mary for that. 500 00:21:52.400 --> 00:21:54.400 And I think there's something that I want to deep dive into 501 00:21:54.400 --> 00:21:58.200 more is like, I want to learn more from Mary's life. 502 00:21:58.200 --> 00:22:00.680 She's been through it. 503 00:22:00.680 --> 00:22:02.760 But like through like time and time again, 504 00:22:02.760 --> 00:22:07.760 she's been so like the heart is known, 505 00:22:07.760 --> 00:22:09.680 the faithfulness of God. 506 00:22:09.680 --> 00:22:12.000 And she's like really held on to that. 507 00:22:12.000 --> 00:22:13.840 So yeah. 508 00:22:13.840 --> 00:22:17.520 And I think one of the things I really admire about Mary's 509 00:22:17.520 --> 00:22:24.520 is the cost of her to say yes because it was so dangerous for her. 510 00:22:24.520 --> 00:22:27.720 If going back to kind of the culture that I explained earlier, 511 00:22:27.720 --> 00:22:30.960 because of the religious authorities of the time, 512 00:22:30.960 --> 00:22:36.760 there's, they actually put all of the power in the men's hands, 513 00:22:36.760 --> 00:22:38.480 in the husband's hands. 514 00:22:38.480 --> 00:22:43.000 And because they were in a period of engagement, Mary, Mary Joseph, 515 00:22:43.000 --> 00:22:46.400 Joseph held all of the power in that situation. 516 00:22:46.400 --> 00:22:51.400 So Mary saying yes, it would have seemed like she had gotten with someone else 517 00:22:51.400 --> 00:22:56.600 and like been unfaithful to the one she was in an engagement period with. 518 00:22:56.600 --> 00:22:59.760 Joseph, and she could have actually just been killed. 519 00:22:59.760 --> 00:23:00.760 Yeah. 520 00:23:00.760 --> 00:23:03.120 He could have sent her off to be, to be stoned. 521 00:23:03.120 --> 00:23:05.480 And that would have been it for Mary. 522 00:23:05.480 --> 00:23:10.040 And her saying yes to God's call, 523 00:23:10.040 --> 00:23:12.480 risked her whole life. 524 00:23:12.480 --> 00:23:13.480 It was crazy. 525 00:23:13.480 --> 00:23:18.600 But, but, and I think this is a good segue to talk about Joseph. 526 00:23:18.600 --> 00:23:21.960 Joseph responds differently, okay? 527 00:23:21.960 --> 00:23:25.240 Let's take a look at Joseph, okay? 528 00:23:25.240 --> 00:23:29.360 Why isn't everyone, let's, let's go over to the gospel of Matthew, 529 00:23:29.360 --> 00:23:30.320 who we were talking about before. 530 00:23:30.320 --> 00:23:33.240 This is written to the Jewish people now. 531 00:23:33.240 --> 00:23:34.880 So we're reading from a slightly different context. 532 00:23:34.880 --> 00:23:41.680 We're going to read from verse 18 to, I think to 25. 533 00:23:41.680 --> 00:23:46.920 And, and we're going to see how does Joseph respond to Mary being put 534 00:23:46.920 --> 00:23:49.240 in this dangerous situation? 535 00:23:49.240 --> 00:23:51.400 Michelle, do you want to read those verses for us? 536 00:23:51.400 --> 00:23:54.000 Because Joseph, her husband was faithful to the law 537 00:23:54.040 --> 00:23:57.200 and yet did not want to expose her to public disgrace. 538 00:23:57.200 --> 00:23:59.680 He had in mind to divorce her quietly. 539 00:23:59.680 --> 00:24:01.160 But after he had considered this, 540 00:24:01.160 --> 00:24:04.560 an angel of the Lord appeared to him in the dream and said, 541 00:24:04.560 --> 00:24:06.480 Joseph, son of David, you're not 542 00:24:06.480 --> 00:24:09.000 be afraid to take Mary home as your wife, 543 00:24:09.000 --> 00:24:12.240 because what is conceived in her is from the Holy Spirit. 544 00:24:12.240 --> 00:24:14.680 She will give birth to a son, 545 00:24:14.680 --> 00:24:16.520 and you to give him the name Jesus, 546 00:24:16.520 --> 00:24:19.440 because he will save his people from their sins. 547 00:24:19.440 --> 00:24:22.120 All this took place to fulfill what the Lord had said 548 00:24:22.120 --> 00:24:23.160 through the prophet. 549 00:24:23.160 --> 00:24:25.920 The Virgin will conceive and give birth to a son, 550 00:24:25.920 --> 00:24:29.680 and they will call him Emmanuel, which means God with us. 551 00:24:29.680 --> 00:24:31.440 When Joseph woke up, he had, 552 00:24:31.440 --> 00:24:34.480 he did what the angel of the Lord had commanded him 553 00:24:34.480 --> 00:24:36.560 and took Mary home as his wife, 554 00:24:36.560 --> 00:24:38.640 but he did not consummate their marriage 555 00:24:38.640 --> 00:24:40.440 until she gave birth to a son, 556 00:24:40.440 --> 00:24:43.320 and he gave him the name Jesus. 557 00:24:43.320 --> 00:24:47.680 Yeah, Joseph's response here shows his character 558 00:24:47.680 --> 00:24:50.640 like he could have easily sent Mary off to be stoned, 559 00:24:50.680 --> 00:24:55.120 but no, he had, I think in part had compassion on her 560 00:24:55.120 --> 00:25:00.000 and showed incredible grace, where, in obviously, 561 00:25:00.000 --> 00:25:03.320 he was visited in the dream by an angel to tell him 562 00:25:03.320 --> 00:25:06.680 that no, Mary's actually conceived through the Holy Spirit, 563 00:25:06.680 --> 00:25:09.120 not because she's been unfaithful, 564 00:25:09.120 --> 00:25:12.680 and for Joseph to even risk his own life in that too. 565 00:25:14.680 --> 00:25:17.040 I'm sure that community knew that these guys 566 00:25:17.080 --> 00:25:18.920 are in period of engagement, 567 00:25:18.920 --> 00:25:21.960 and now Mary's pregnant, scandal. 568 00:25:23.960 --> 00:25:27.120 So for Joseph to still take her under his wing 569 00:25:27.120 --> 00:25:29.760 and say, no, I'm actually going to protect this woman. 570 00:25:29.760 --> 00:25:32.000 She is my wife to be, 571 00:25:33.400 --> 00:25:35.680 and she is pregnant, not because of me. 572 00:25:35.680 --> 00:25:38.960 That's like a crazy, gnarly story to tell. 573 00:25:38.960 --> 00:25:40.240 How do you explain that? 574 00:25:41.840 --> 00:25:43.880 Any other thoughts, guys? 575 00:25:43.880 --> 00:25:47.040 Well, I'll tell you what, here's what I really like about Joseph. 576 00:25:48.360 --> 00:25:51.880 I like how Joseph doesn't wait for a clear 577 00:25:51.880 --> 00:25:56.880 or miraculous sign or word from God to dictate his actions. 578 00:25:59.440 --> 00:26:01.120 Here's what I mean by that. 579 00:26:01.120 --> 00:26:05.640 Joseph acts honorably to quietly divorce her 580 00:26:05.640 --> 00:26:09.240 and let her live and honor her 581 00:26:09.240 --> 00:26:14.240 before any sort of sign from the Lord tells him what's happened. 582 00:26:15.680 --> 00:26:18.560 Here's what I think happens a lot of the time in our culture. 583 00:26:18.560 --> 00:26:21.560 People want to wait for a miraculous sign 584 00:26:21.560 --> 00:26:25.800 or a particular word to start living for Jesus 585 00:26:25.800 --> 00:26:28.640 when we've got this whole book right here. 586 00:26:28.640 --> 00:26:30.360 Joseph didn't even have this whole thing. 587 00:26:30.360 --> 00:26:32.080 He just had the Old Testament, 588 00:26:32.080 --> 00:26:34.960 but he still wanted to live as an honorable man. 589 00:26:34.960 --> 00:26:37.560 Whether or not God was going to make it clear to him, 590 00:26:37.560 --> 00:26:40.320 whether or not he was going to understand with clarity 591 00:26:40.320 --> 00:26:42.240 what exactly had happened, 592 00:26:42.240 --> 00:26:47.480 he chose to not repay a potential wrongdoing 593 00:26:47.480 --> 00:26:49.080 with another wrongdoing. 594 00:26:50.440 --> 00:26:52.880 Don't wait around to be doing the right thing, man. 595 00:26:52.880 --> 00:26:56.160 God is calling you, according to his word, to do it now. 596 00:26:56.160 --> 00:26:57.560 You don't go to wait for a sign. 597 00:26:58.560 --> 00:27:00.720 And look how God honors that. 598 00:27:00.720 --> 00:27:02.160 He shows up. 599 00:27:02.160 --> 00:27:07.160 He tells Joseph exactly what's, he's like, listen, listen. 600 00:27:07.240 --> 00:27:08.680 This is for me. 601 00:27:08.680 --> 00:27:09.840 This is of me. 602 00:27:09.840 --> 00:27:10.800 You don't got to do that. 603 00:27:10.800 --> 00:27:13.240 He speaks to him clearly. 604 00:27:13.240 --> 00:27:17.360 And I just love how Joseph does that. 605 00:27:17.360 --> 00:27:20.360 I think that's such a great, great example. 606 00:27:20.360 --> 00:27:23.920 Because like imagine if you put it to your own contacts, 607 00:27:23.920 --> 00:27:26.600 like let's say you're engaged to a girl 608 00:27:26.600 --> 00:27:29.240 and then they come to you and they're like, I'm pregnant. 609 00:27:29.240 --> 00:27:31.320 You be angry. 610 00:27:31.320 --> 00:27:34.720 Yeah, it'd be like realistically, realistically. 611 00:27:34.720 --> 00:27:36.480 Not, yeah, realistically. 612 00:27:37.640 --> 00:27:40.120 Even like, I'd be like, all right, like, yeah, we're done. 613 00:27:40.120 --> 00:27:40.880 Like, what are we doing? 614 00:27:40.880 --> 00:27:41.720 Yeah, exactly. 615 00:27:41.720 --> 00:27:42.560 You know what I mean? 616 00:27:42.560 --> 00:27:48.200 And then he, he like, he like, like, he reprocesses anger 617 00:27:48.200 --> 00:27:49.200 to grace. 618 00:27:50.600 --> 00:27:55.760 Like that is so hard to do, but then shows so much spiritual maturity 619 00:27:55.760 --> 00:27:58.520 and emotional maturity, and they even do that. 620 00:27:58.520 --> 00:28:00.120 Wait, I'm actually just clocking. 621 00:28:00.120 --> 00:28:02.960 When you said like, actually put yourself in the shoes, 622 00:28:03.000 --> 00:28:08.000 because to not gossip about that, to not slander Mary, 623 00:28:09.080 --> 00:28:14.080 to not like go and just like rant to your neighbor 624 00:28:15.160 --> 00:28:16.760 is so hard. 625 00:28:16.760 --> 00:28:18.520 If someone legit like, 626 00:28:18.520 --> 00:28:19.560 Cheat on me. 627 00:28:19.560 --> 00:28:22.160 Like if I was engaged to someone and they wouldn't go up 628 00:28:22.160 --> 00:28:25.960 pregnant, I'd be like, brother, like, what am I doing? 629 00:28:27.200 --> 00:28:29.760 Like, there'd be so hard not to like disgrace her. 630 00:28:29.760 --> 00:28:31.160 Like, if I'm being real. 631 00:28:31.160 --> 00:28:32.160 Thanks for being real. 632 00:28:33.040 --> 00:28:34.040 That's so honor. 633 00:28:35.040 --> 00:28:36.040 Thank you. 634 00:28:36.040 --> 00:28:37.040 Thanks. 635 00:28:37.040 --> 00:28:40.920 That's so like, that is actually nuts from Joseph. 636 00:28:40.920 --> 00:28:42.400 Yeah, that is crazy crazy. 637 00:28:42.400 --> 00:28:46.560 Why it Lee, like it doesn't even seem like he doesn't even want 638 00:28:46.560 --> 00:28:47.680 any sort of revenge. 639 00:28:47.680 --> 00:28:49.960 He does, he's not out to get her at all. 640 00:28:49.960 --> 00:28:53.360 Hmm, I think that's a man of God right there. 641 00:28:53.360 --> 00:28:54.920 That is a man of God. 642 00:28:54.920 --> 00:28:58.480 And it's as well like he knew what the consequence of him 643 00:28:58.480 --> 00:29:02.160 gossiping would be, and it would have been her death. 644 00:29:02.160 --> 00:29:07.000 And it's like he literally like saved her life. 645 00:29:07.000 --> 00:29:08.160 Is that too far to say? 646 00:29:08.160 --> 00:29:09.280 I don't think it's too far to say. 647 00:29:09.280 --> 00:29:10.120 Yeah, okay. 648 00:29:10.120 --> 00:29:13.160 Like he literally protected her even though like, 649 00:29:13.160 --> 00:29:14.520 he would have been heartbroken. 650 00:29:14.520 --> 00:29:15.360 Wow. 651 00:29:15.360 --> 00:29:19.800 Like that's crazy for your fiance to come and just be like, 652 00:29:19.800 --> 00:29:22.000 hey, yeah, by the way, I'm pregnant. 653 00:29:22.000 --> 00:29:23.480 And it's like, what? 654 00:29:23.480 --> 00:29:25.240 Like I would have, I would be heartbroken. 655 00:29:25.240 --> 00:29:26.160 Yeah. 656 00:29:26.160 --> 00:29:27.400 That's really sad. 657 00:29:28.440 --> 00:29:30.400 Especially because like they're saving, 658 00:29:31.320 --> 00:29:34.040 they would have been saving sex for when they were married. 659 00:29:34.040 --> 00:29:35.960 Yeah, we didn't even consummate the marriage 660 00:29:35.960 --> 00:29:37.520 until the child was born. 661 00:29:37.520 --> 00:29:39.000 Yeah, that's, that's honor. 662 00:29:39.000 --> 00:29:40.320 That is like honor. 663 00:29:42.240 --> 00:29:43.240 That is so honor. 664 00:29:43.240 --> 00:29:44.680 Go find yourself a Joseph. 665 00:29:44.680 --> 00:29:46.520 Go find yourself a Joseph. 666 00:29:46.520 --> 00:29:47.720 That's so real. 667 00:29:47.720 --> 00:29:48.560 Yeah. 668 00:29:48.560 --> 00:29:49.400 How do you think? 669 00:29:49.400 --> 00:29:53.640 Okay, bring it, bring it practical as we kind of, 670 00:29:53.640 --> 00:29:56.080 as we, as we finish off this kind of part one, 671 00:29:56.080 --> 00:29:58.000 we've maybe got five or 10 more minutes. 672 00:29:58.120 --> 00:30:03.360 What, how do we bring that into our lives? 673 00:30:03.360 --> 00:30:05.520 How can we be honorable like Joseph? 674 00:30:05.520 --> 00:30:09.640 How do we cultivate a character like he has? 675 00:30:09.640 --> 00:30:11.040 Because that's tough. 676 00:30:11.040 --> 00:30:11.880 Yeah. 677 00:30:11.880 --> 00:30:14.480 I think also like reminding yourself that like, 678 00:30:14.480 --> 00:30:17.760 you are going to stand in front of God 679 00:30:17.760 --> 00:30:21.000 and you're going to have to like, basically, 680 00:30:21.000 --> 00:30:24.520 testify to what you've done and what you've said 681 00:30:24.520 --> 00:30:26.560 and how you've loved other people. 682 00:30:26.560 --> 00:30:29.200 And whether you love people and the opportunities 683 00:30:29.200 --> 00:30:31.680 that you could have loved them, you know? 684 00:30:31.680 --> 00:30:34.320 And I think the world tells us to take revenge 685 00:30:34.320 --> 00:30:35.600 and people that have done wrong, 686 00:30:35.600 --> 00:30:39.600 but again, the Bible tells us that it's to do the opposite, 687 00:30:39.600 --> 00:30:42.760 to be countercultural is costly. 688 00:30:43.640 --> 00:30:48.360 And you know, when something costs you is, it's hard. 689 00:30:48.360 --> 00:30:51.040 So like to be, to have honor for the people, 690 00:30:51.040 --> 00:30:53.480 I think it is a costly thing, 691 00:30:53.480 --> 00:30:56.960 especially when it hurts and it's painful. 692 00:30:58.480 --> 00:31:01.080 I think the Lord really honors that as well. 693 00:31:01.080 --> 00:31:03.720 Like he honors us in that sacrifice. 694 00:31:03.720 --> 00:31:05.360 So that's good, yeah. 695 00:31:05.360 --> 00:31:08.400 I think it's evident in his faithful 696 00:31:08.400 --> 00:31:10.800 and steadfast walk with God 697 00:31:10.800 --> 00:31:13.960 that it's like an outpouring of his time 698 00:31:13.960 --> 00:31:17.960 in the secret place that God has molded his character 699 00:31:17.960 --> 00:31:21.800 to have that grace that he knows God has for him, 700 00:31:21.800 --> 00:31:24.760 which is like crazy to actually play it out, 701 00:31:24.760 --> 00:31:28.480 action it out in a situation that's as extreme 702 00:31:28.480 --> 00:31:30.320 as what his wants with Mary. 703 00:31:30.320 --> 00:31:31.320 Yeah. 704 00:31:31.320 --> 00:31:33.000 Yeah, I think, I think the takeaway for me 705 00:31:33.000 --> 00:31:36.080 from this Joseph is like the character 706 00:31:36.080 --> 00:31:39.320 and story of Joseph is love your enemies. 707 00:31:39.320 --> 00:31:40.760 That's the teaching of Jesus in it. 708 00:31:40.760 --> 00:31:42.760 Like later in his life, Jesus then grows up 709 00:31:42.760 --> 00:31:44.720 and teaches love your enemies. 710 00:31:45.720 --> 00:31:49.520 And to those who would ask you to walk one mile 711 00:31:49.520 --> 00:31:54.520 with them walk two and it's like this total self-giving love, 712 00:31:57.560 --> 00:31:59.480 which I love and we see that in Joseph. 713 00:31:59.480 --> 00:32:01.720 I think that's the takeaway I would love 714 00:32:01.720 --> 00:32:05.040 all of our listeners and viewers to walk away with this. 715 00:32:05.040 --> 00:32:09.040 Love those whom least deserve your love 716 00:32:09.040 --> 00:32:12.000 and you'll love everyone else in between. 717 00:32:12.000 --> 00:32:15.240 What I'm curious just before we close, 718 00:32:15.240 --> 00:32:16.520 I didn't ask this before, 719 00:32:16.520 --> 00:32:18.480 but what's the takeaway that we could have 720 00:32:18.480 --> 00:32:22.080 from the character story study of Mary 721 00:32:22.080 --> 00:32:23.080 that we've looked at so far? 722 00:32:23.080 --> 00:32:24.600 What'd you guys think? 723 00:32:24.600 --> 00:32:27.200 It was while you're speaking, Ania, 724 00:32:27.200 --> 00:32:32.320 I was thinking about how God doesn't call the qualified, 725 00:32:32.320 --> 00:32:34.240 but he qualifies the code. 726 00:32:34.240 --> 00:32:37.600 And we see that so clearly in the story of Mary. 727 00:32:37.600 --> 00:32:38.920 I love that. 728 00:32:38.920 --> 00:32:43.560 It's such a good quote and it's like just encouragement 729 00:32:43.600 --> 00:32:47.040 that if the world, if society, if your friends, 730 00:32:47.040 --> 00:32:49.920 whoever is, is just disqualifying you 731 00:32:49.920 --> 00:32:51.520 or saying you're not good enough, 732 00:32:51.520 --> 00:32:52.640 you don't have these skills, 733 00:32:52.640 --> 00:32:54.240 dada da, whatever it is, 734 00:32:54.240 --> 00:32:56.840 it actually doesn't matter in the eyes of God 735 00:32:56.840 --> 00:32:58.920 because God looks at the heart. 736 00:32:58.920 --> 00:33:00.560 God looks at our character within. 737 00:33:00.560 --> 00:33:03.440 He doesn't look at the exterior like what the world looks at. 738 00:33:03.440 --> 00:33:07.040 So to the world, Mary looked insignificant, 739 00:33:07.040 --> 00:33:12.040 unimportant, boring, bit of an outsider, but to God, 740 00:33:12.440 --> 00:33:14.240 she was the chosen one. 741 00:33:14.240 --> 00:33:18.840 She was the faithful woman who served him and loved him 742 00:33:18.840 --> 00:33:22.720 and would carry Jesus Christ of Nazareth, 743 00:33:22.720 --> 00:33:24.640 the savior of the world. 744 00:33:24.640 --> 00:33:27.320 And it's like, never ever disqualify yourself 745 00:33:27.320 --> 00:33:32.160 because God sees so much more than what we could ever see 746 00:33:32.160 --> 00:33:33.760 with our own human eyes. 747 00:33:33.760 --> 00:33:34.600 Yeah. 748 00:33:34.600 --> 00:33:35.440 So yeah. 749 00:33:35.440 --> 00:33:37.160 It's a great takeaway, Zo. 750 00:33:37.160 --> 00:33:38.000 Thanks, Zo. 751 00:33:38.000 --> 00:33:41.480 That's a great place to, I'm loving calling you Zo. 752 00:33:41.480 --> 00:33:42.560 It's a good nickname, I like it. 753 00:33:42.560 --> 00:33:43.560 Yeah, lean in. 754 00:33:43.560 --> 00:33:44.480 Yeah, thanks. 755 00:33:44.480 --> 00:33:45.400 Thanks for that permission. 756 00:33:45.400 --> 00:33:46.680 No problem. 757 00:33:46.680 --> 00:33:47.680 Granted. 758 00:33:47.680 --> 00:33:49.480 Hey, I've loved this episode. 759 00:33:49.480 --> 00:33:51.360 It's a great way to kick off Christmas 760 00:33:51.360 --> 00:33:54.200 and I'm excited for part two, guys. 761 00:33:54.200 --> 00:33:55.240 Stay tuned. 762 00:33:55.240 --> 00:33:57.600 We're going to keep going in this story 763 00:33:57.600 --> 00:34:00.320 and, hey, a savior is born 764 00:34:00.320 --> 00:34:01.720 and that's why we're celebrating. 765 00:34:01.720 --> 00:34:03.480 That's the reason for the season. 766 00:34:03.480 --> 00:34:07.840 So enjoy hanging out with family and friends this holidays 767 00:34:07.840 --> 00:34:09.760 and we'll see you next time. 768 00:34:09.760 --> 00:34:11.240 So much love. 769 00:34:11.240 --> 00:34:12.280 Bye for now. 770 00:34:12.280 --> 00:34:13.280 Hey.