WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:04.320 Yo, famo, welcome back to the way UK podcast, what? 2 00:00:04.320 --> 00:00:06.480 Sorry, I completely forgot you were you were leading it. 3 00:00:06.480 --> 00:00:08.000 Oh, sorry, current one. 4 00:00:08.000 --> 00:00:13.360 I'm leading today's episode on Ephesians 2. 5 00:00:13.360 --> 00:00:13.840 Wow. 6 00:00:13.840 --> 00:00:16.720 If you haven't opened up your Bible yet, open it up. 7 00:00:16.720 --> 00:00:18.000 What translations do you guys have? 8 00:00:18.000 --> 00:00:21.840 I'm Zach and I have the ESP version. 9 00:00:21.840 --> 00:00:25.360 I'm Izzy and I have the NIV version. 10 00:00:25.360 --> 00:00:29.680 And I'm Matthias and I have the NIV version. 11 00:00:29.680 --> 00:00:33.280 I feel kind of two gets one separate now. 12 00:00:33.280 --> 00:00:36.640 Well, we're going to be talking about how there's actually no division 13 00:00:36.640 --> 00:00:37.840 in the body of Christ. 14 00:00:37.840 --> 00:00:38.400 Wow. 15 00:00:38.400 --> 00:00:40.400 In Ephesians 2. 16 00:00:40.400 --> 00:00:41.760 That's one of the big things we're going to hit. 17 00:00:41.760 --> 00:00:43.760 Okay, we're going to break this down to three sections. 18 00:00:43.760 --> 00:00:48.160 Verse 1 to 7, verse 8 to 16, and verse 17 to 22. 19 00:00:48.160 --> 00:00:50.480 Should we start by reading verse 1 to 7? 20 00:00:50.480 --> 00:00:51.680 Just get straight into it. 21 00:00:51.760 --> 00:00:52.960 Okay. 22 00:00:56.960 --> 00:00:59.920 Matthias, do you want to read verse 1 to 7? 23 00:00:59.920 --> 00:01:03.520 Verses 1 to 7 from the new international version. 24 00:01:03.520 --> 00:01:04.400 Hmm. 25 00:01:04.400 --> 00:01:05.760 Sorry. 26 00:01:05.760 --> 00:01:06.480 Are you ready, Izzy? 27 00:01:06.480 --> 00:01:07.760 Yeah, I'll just get myself comfortable. 28 00:01:07.760 --> 00:01:09.200 Okay, are you sitting comfortably? 29 00:01:09.200 --> 00:01:09.680 Not at all. 30 00:01:09.680 --> 00:01:10.640 Okay, I'm ready now. 31 00:01:10.640 --> 00:01:14.400 As for you, you were dead in your transgressions and sins, 32 00:01:14.400 --> 00:01:18.480 in which you used to live when you followed the ways of this world 33 00:01:18.480 --> 00:01:21.040 and of the ruler of the kingdom of the air. 34 00:01:21.120 --> 00:01:24.800 The spirit who is now at work in those who are disobedient. 35 00:01:25.520 --> 00:01:28.560 All of us also lived among them at one time, 36 00:01:28.560 --> 00:01:31.760 gratifying the cravings of our sinful nature 37 00:01:31.760 --> 00:01:34.240 and following its desire and thoughts. 38 00:01:34.240 --> 00:01:38.560 Like the rest, we were by nature objects of wrath. 39 00:01:38.560 --> 00:01:41.200 But because of his great love for us, 40 00:01:41.200 --> 00:01:43.440 God, who is rich in mercy, 41 00:01:43.440 --> 00:01:47.440 made us alive with Christ even when we were dead 42 00:01:47.440 --> 00:01:48.880 in our transgressions. 43 00:01:48.880 --> 00:01:51.680 It is by grace you have been saved. 44 00:01:51.680 --> 00:01:56.240 And God raised up with Christ and seated us with Him 45 00:01:56.240 --> 00:01:59.280 in the heavenly realms in Jesus Christ. 46 00:02:00.080 --> 00:02:01.680 And I read 7 as well. 47 00:02:01.680 --> 00:02:05.840 In order that in order that in the coming ages, 48 00:02:05.840 --> 00:02:09.280 He might show the incomparable riches of grace 49 00:02:09.280 --> 00:02:13.120 expressed in His kindness to us in Christ Jesus. 50 00:02:13.120 --> 00:02:16.720 Bro, I actually just realized I haven't read chapter 1, 51 00:02:16.800 --> 00:02:19.120 but you were on the chapter 1 part, weren't you? 52 00:02:19.120 --> 00:02:21.440 That's really, really important. 53 00:02:21.440 --> 00:02:23.360 Because if you haven't listened to chapter 1, 54 00:02:24.240 --> 00:02:25.760 this might not make sense. 55 00:02:25.760 --> 00:02:26.240 Yeah. 56 00:02:26.240 --> 00:02:28.800 So we would encourage you to go back into chapter 1, 57 00:02:29.440 --> 00:02:32.480 listen to it, and get caught up. 58 00:02:32.480 --> 00:02:34.560 Could you hit like a 32nd summary? 59 00:02:34.560 --> 00:02:36.720 What was what goes on in chapter 1? 60 00:02:36.720 --> 00:02:40.560 So this book is written by Big Dog Paul. 61 00:02:40.560 --> 00:02:41.680 Sorry. 62 00:02:42.640 --> 00:02:47.040 Big Dog Paul, he wrote a lot most of the New Testament, basically. 63 00:02:47.040 --> 00:02:48.960 And he wrote it in forms of letters. 64 00:02:48.960 --> 00:02:50.720 And so this book is not different. 65 00:02:50.720 --> 00:02:54.960 It is a letter to a church of the Church of Ephesus. 66 00:02:54.960 --> 00:02:57.680 And Ephesus is in modern day Turkey. 67 00:02:57.680 --> 00:02:58.960 What's your fun fact, is he? 68 00:02:58.960 --> 00:03:00.720 Oh my gosh, I've been there. 69 00:03:00.720 --> 00:03:04.320 I went there in 2019, I don't know why I put a date on it. 70 00:03:04.320 --> 00:03:05.280 But it's very cool. 71 00:03:05.280 --> 00:03:06.240 It's a lot of marble. 72 00:03:06.240 --> 00:03:09.360 And it's a huge, I think it can be easy to imagine cities 73 00:03:09.360 --> 00:03:13.440 and Bible times is like these falling apart for cities. 74 00:03:13.440 --> 00:03:17.520 But Ephesus, even to this day, is still huge and full of marble. 75 00:03:17.520 --> 00:03:20.080 And that was a wealthy, huge city. 76 00:03:20.080 --> 00:03:22.080 It's comparable to Paris today. 77 00:03:22.080 --> 00:03:24.240 So I heard someone say that. 78 00:03:24.240 --> 00:03:24.720 Sure, take it. 79 00:03:24.720 --> 00:03:25.840 So let's take it. 80 00:03:25.840 --> 00:03:27.280 It was huge. 81 00:03:27.280 --> 00:03:28.720 Lots of different cultures. 82 00:03:28.720 --> 00:03:30.640 It was a harbour city. 83 00:03:30.640 --> 00:03:32.320 So lots of trade coming in. 84 00:03:32.320 --> 00:03:34.000 And there was a church there. 85 00:03:34.000 --> 00:03:36.080 So we're not sure, I'm not sure, 86 00:03:36.720 --> 00:03:40.320 whether Paul had been to Ephesus at this time, 87 00:03:40.320 --> 00:03:41.760 because he did go at some point, 88 00:03:41.760 --> 00:03:42.960 but at the time of this writing. 89 00:03:42.960 --> 00:03:43.520 I think so. 90 00:03:43.520 --> 00:03:44.800 I think he had been to Ephesus. 91 00:03:44.800 --> 00:03:45.520 And then this as well, 92 00:03:45.520 --> 00:03:47.760 as he was in prison, so right into them. 93 00:03:47.760 --> 00:03:48.720 So he's been to Ephesus. 94 00:03:48.720 --> 00:03:50.400 He's met the church there. 95 00:03:50.400 --> 00:03:55.200 But this church has got some Jews and some Gentiles. 96 00:03:55.200 --> 00:03:57.280 And the theme of this book, 97 00:03:57.280 --> 00:03:58.560 and I'll give you some background on the book, 98 00:03:58.560 --> 00:04:01.840 is that it's an encouragement to the church there. 99 00:04:01.840 --> 00:04:04.560 So you're going to hear lots of encouraging phrases 100 00:04:04.560 --> 00:04:07.840 and lots of inclusive phrases to this church in Ephesus, 101 00:04:07.840 --> 00:04:08.960 because they're feeling, 102 00:04:08.960 --> 00:04:10.480 I don't know, they might be feeling a little bit down. 103 00:04:10.480 --> 00:04:12.240 And so Paul decided, 104 00:04:12.240 --> 00:04:14.080 I'm going to really lift them up 105 00:04:14.080 --> 00:04:16.560 and show them their identity in Christ. 106 00:04:16.560 --> 00:04:18.800 And so that's what you get a lot in the first chapter. 107 00:04:18.800 --> 00:04:20.320 It was like, who Christ is, 108 00:04:20.320 --> 00:04:22.320 who, what the gospel is, and what that means. 109 00:04:22.320 --> 00:04:23.360 And in the second chapter, 110 00:04:23.360 --> 00:04:24.640 we're going to continue to dive into that. 111 00:04:24.640 --> 00:04:27.280 Like, what is the Christian message 112 00:04:27.280 --> 00:04:29.440 and crucially, what is our identity 113 00:04:29.440 --> 00:04:31.120 and what is that built upon, right? 114 00:04:31.840 --> 00:04:33.120 It's a little bit of the background. 115 00:04:33.120 --> 00:04:33.680 Thanks, bro. 116 00:04:33.760 --> 00:04:34.320 No worries. 117 00:04:34.320 --> 00:04:35.440 It's very helpful for me. 118 00:04:35.440 --> 00:04:36.240 Come on. 119 00:05:03.760 --> 00:05:05.040 Get back into the podcast. 120 00:05:08.800 --> 00:05:12.000 I'm curious. You said that chapter one was quite encouraging. 121 00:05:12.640 --> 00:05:13.840 We start chapter two. 122 00:05:14.480 --> 00:05:17.680 And it feels almost like quite negative to me. 123 00:05:17.680 --> 00:05:18.640 I don't know about you guys. 124 00:05:19.200 --> 00:05:22.000 But he starts literally talking about like, 125 00:05:22.000 --> 00:05:24.880 you were dead in your trespasses. 126 00:05:24.880 --> 00:05:26.640 You like followed the flesh. 127 00:05:26.640 --> 00:05:28.880 You were sons of disobedience. 128 00:05:28.880 --> 00:05:32.800 Why is he starting on this kind of more negative 129 00:05:32.880 --> 00:05:34.560 like talking about the past, 130 00:05:35.600 --> 00:05:39.040 rather than just going completely into encouragement. 131 00:05:39.040 --> 00:05:40.160 And like, what does that even mean? 132 00:05:40.160 --> 00:05:41.200 What does it mean to be like, 133 00:05:41.200 --> 00:05:42.960 sons of disobedience? 134 00:05:44.160 --> 00:05:46.080 Oh, I think you can't, you don't know where you're going 135 00:05:46.080 --> 00:05:47.520 unless you know where you've been, right? 136 00:05:48.560 --> 00:05:49.040 Crazy. 137 00:05:50.720 --> 00:05:54.320 It's knowing where you've been is an important lesson 138 00:05:54.320 --> 00:05:55.360 because you can learn from that. 139 00:05:56.080 --> 00:05:58.000 And I think this is what he's kind of doing here 140 00:05:58.000 --> 00:06:00.240 in the first section of this chapter. 141 00:06:00.240 --> 00:06:04.080 He's highlighting, particularly to the Gentiles actually. 142 00:06:04.080 --> 00:06:06.000 So he's talking to Gentiles here. 143 00:06:06.800 --> 00:06:08.880 You were living without God basically, 144 00:06:08.880 --> 00:06:11.040 trying to highlighting what their state was. 145 00:06:12.400 --> 00:06:15.040 It says, I think, in verse two, it says, 146 00:06:15.600 --> 00:06:16.640 what's it's in verse two? 147 00:06:17.360 --> 00:06:21.280 It says, in which you used to live when you followed the ways of the world 148 00:06:21.760 --> 00:06:24.320 and of the rule of the kingdom of the air. 149 00:06:24.320 --> 00:06:29.040 And so it was like, the kingdom of the air was just the kingdom of the devil. 150 00:06:30.000 --> 00:06:31.600 Pretty much, not very soft. 151 00:06:31.600 --> 00:06:33.200 So it's quite, it's quite extreme. 152 00:06:33.200 --> 00:06:38.640 But he's trying to create this contrast pretty much. 153 00:06:39.840 --> 00:06:40.800 I think it's significant. 154 00:06:40.800 --> 00:06:43.520 I know for me, whenever I think of my own testimony 155 00:06:43.520 --> 00:06:48.640 and where I am now, it's always helpful to compare it to where I used to be 156 00:06:49.200 --> 00:06:52.400 because in our current situations, we can forget sometimes. 157 00:06:52.400 --> 00:06:55.520 But when we reflect on where we were, maybe what we were feeling, 158 00:06:55.520 --> 00:06:56.880 maybe the relationships you're in. 159 00:06:56.960 --> 00:06:59.360 And we see how God has been good and gracious now. 160 00:07:00.080 --> 00:07:02.720 It's easier to see the difference and to compare it that way. 161 00:07:03.760 --> 00:07:06.720 I think also, read me if I'm wrong, 162 00:07:06.720 --> 00:07:11.680 but I believe in chapter one, it talks a lot about how Jesus was brought from death to life. 163 00:07:11.680 --> 00:07:15.680 And then I think in chapter two, it goes straight into how we also have been brought into death to life. 164 00:07:15.680 --> 00:07:22.400 So he's using that like, he's mirroring that language and is very extreme language. 165 00:07:22.400 --> 00:07:24.400 But he always lights that and likes to get his point of view. 166 00:07:24.400 --> 00:07:28.160 And I think the word death can be like, 167 00:07:28.160 --> 00:07:31.120 what does that mean I was dead and I didn't know Jesus? 168 00:07:31.120 --> 00:07:32.400 Does that mean I was a bad person? 169 00:07:32.400 --> 00:07:34.240 I think it was quite extreme. 170 00:07:34.240 --> 00:07:38.000 And I think I often felt growing up where I was like, 171 00:07:38.000 --> 00:07:39.840 I don't think I'm that bad of a person. 172 00:07:39.840 --> 00:07:45.440 I don't think I would have murdered people just off the whim if I didn't know Jesus. 173 00:07:46.640 --> 00:07:52.320 But I think it's basically explaining to us that we are not truly alive 174 00:07:52.320 --> 00:07:53.840 when we are in a relationship with God. 175 00:07:54.880 --> 00:07:57.920 And if we understand some of those, 176 00:07:58.960 --> 00:08:01.360 that way, in those words like sin and transgression, 177 00:08:01.360 --> 00:08:06.160 there's two words for it, which I've got some explanations of still kind of gives a little 178 00:08:06.160 --> 00:08:09.440 taste of like when we're not quite alive in Christ. 179 00:08:09.440 --> 00:08:13.040 So sin kind of translates to this like a miss. 180 00:08:13.040 --> 00:08:15.360 So if you think of it like in archery, 181 00:08:15.360 --> 00:08:18.800 if you're shooting a shot and you miss it, it's a miss. 182 00:08:19.440 --> 00:08:22.560 Which is like you're failing to miss the target of like God's best for you or 183 00:08:23.360 --> 00:08:24.240 or the standard. 184 00:08:24.240 --> 00:08:25.200 You're just like missing it. 185 00:08:25.200 --> 00:08:28.000 And then transgression is like you've crossed a line. 186 00:08:28.000 --> 00:08:31.120 So it's translated as like a full step or a slip 187 00:08:31.120 --> 00:08:35.760 where you've like strayed away or fallen away from a truth that they should have known. 188 00:08:35.760 --> 00:08:38.240 So it's like you know where you should have done and instead you've 189 00:08:38.880 --> 00:08:41.760 trespassed, you've gone past it, you've slipped away from it. 190 00:08:41.760 --> 00:08:44.560 So it's kind of like active and passive sin. 191 00:08:44.560 --> 00:08:46.240 So it's ones where you've 192 00:08:46.240 --> 00:08:50.640 just missed the mark a bit, maybe passively. 193 00:08:50.640 --> 00:08:54.160 And then ones where you have stepped over that line like actively. 194 00:08:54.160 --> 00:08:57.600 And I think that's also interesting to identify that there are different types of sin. 195 00:08:57.600 --> 00:08:59.600 It's not just the 10 commandments these days. 196 00:09:00.320 --> 00:09:03.920 But actually it's anything that kind of foreshort and sometimes is bi-axed in. 197 00:09:03.920 --> 00:09:05.600 And sometimes it's on purpose. 198 00:09:05.600 --> 00:09:08.320 But how Jesus covers all of that. 199 00:09:08.320 --> 00:09:11.440 But I think when we realize there's actually probably a lot more sin in us than we think 200 00:09:12.000 --> 00:09:18.240 there is, then actually there's so much more of our life that can be brought alive in Christ 201 00:09:18.240 --> 00:09:19.200 than we realized. 202 00:09:21.360 --> 00:09:25.360 As you're saying that, I was reminded of myself growing up. 203 00:09:25.360 --> 00:09:28.560 I don't know if you guys are similar, but I grew up in a Christian household. 204 00:09:28.560 --> 00:09:32.160 I was baptized like as a baby. 205 00:09:32.800 --> 00:09:37.280 And I sometimes I think thought kind of similar to you, is he? 206 00:09:38.240 --> 00:09:43.360 Well, was there ever a point when I was dead in my transgressions? 207 00:09:43.360 --> 00:09:43.920 Yeah. 208 00:09:43.920 --> 00:09:49.440 And I've later come to realize in probably actually recent years and months even 209 00:09:50.160 --> 00:09:53.520 that this is not a one-time event. 210 00:09:54.400 --> 00:10:00.240 This is a continual process of transformation and being brought away from that 211 00:10:01.200 --> 00:10:03.840 life of like deadness. 212 00:10:04.880 --> 00:10:10.560 It's not like you just suddenly switch up, oh, I met Jesus and suddenly like, 213 00:10:11.360 --> 00:10:14.240 you know, everything goes into line. 214 00:10:14.960 --> 00:10:16.720 Everything is just perfect. 215 00:10:17.520 --> 00:10:19.440 Actually, it's a lifelong transformation. 216 00:10:19.440 --> 00:10:20.880 That's what's so beautiful about him. 217 00:10:20.880 --> 00:10:23.520 And then you get that in the scripture, you get the turning point right, 218 00:10:23.520 --> 00:10:30.000 because it has a first section of that passage we read, which is highlighting where we and where 219 00:10:30.080 --> 00:10:31.280 the church was broken. 220 00:10:31.280 --> 00:10:34.560 And then you have verse four, which is like we said, it's an encouraging book. 221 00:10:34.560 --> 00:10:36.480 And so he like highlights where they're broken. 222 00:10:36.480 --> 00:10:39.280 And then in verse four, there's like the turning point of that passage. 223 00:10:39.280 --> 00:10:45.840 It says, but because of his great love for us, God, who is rich in mercies, made us alive. 224 00:10:45.840 --> 00:10:49.840 So you have the contrast between us being dead by ourselves in our own transgression, 225 00:10:49.840 --> 00:10:53.280 in our sin, but God, which is something you hear very often. 226 00:10:53.280 --> 00:10:57.840 It doesn't exactly have a God, but but because of his love, God, 227 00:10:57.920 --> 00:11:00.080 his rich in mercies, made us alive. 228 00:11:00.080 --> 00:11:02.320 And so it's in God that we find life. 229 00:11:02.320 --> 00:11:03.200 And it's in him alone. 230 00:11:03.200 --> 00:11:06.000 And this is a theme that we're going to continue to encounter throughout. 231 00:11:06.800 --> 00:11:12.560 This chapter is like highlighting our lack and then poor bringing 232 00:11:13.600 --> 00:11:18.080 the turning point and highlighting where Christ makes us whole. 233 00:11:19.120 --> 00:11:25.520 I think all the highlights Jesus loved for us, like it is literally nothing to do about our 234 00:11:25.520 --> 00:11:32.080 love towards him, but he yet chooses to love for his mercy and grace on us. 235 00:11:32.080 --> 00:11:36.720 And I think that comes up quite a lot where literally there's nothing about us. 236 00:11:36.720 --> 00:11:39.920 It's just who he is that he loves us anyway. 237 00:11:40.480 --> 00:11:41.920 And then it's him that's all the glory. 238 00:11:41.920 --> 00:11:46.320 It's nothing to do with anything that I do or you guys do or any of us do. 239 00:11:46.320 --> 00:11:51.040 But I think that also highlights that a little bit of very clearly. 240 00:11:51.040 --> 00:11:52.000 It's not us. 241 00:11:52.160 --> 00:11:58.320 Yeah. What do you think what do you think about the implications of that salvation? 242 00:11:58.320 --> 00:12:04.720 Because it says from verse five into verse six, my version says, even when we were dead in our 243 00:12:04.720 --> 00:12:10.320 trespasses, we made us alive together with Christ. That's what we just talked about. 244 00:12:10.320 --> 00:12:18.480 And by grace, you've been saved and raised us up with him and seated us with him in the 245 00:12:18.480 --> 00:12:22.960 heavenly places in Christ Jesus. What does that mean? What does it mean to be raised up with 246 00:12:22.960 --> 00:12:30.400 Jesus and seated with him in heavenly places? I kind of see it's like Jesus he died on the cross. 247 00:12:30.400 --> 00:12:36.720 He died the death that we did not that he did not deserve that we did so that we are able to 248 00:12:37.440 --> 00:12:41.040 live in the presence of God. So he was the ultimate sacrifice for us. 249 00:12:41.040 --> 00:12:47.200 And that's a crucial part of the story, but an equally important part of the story is his 250 00:12:47.200 --> 00:12:51.840 resurrection from the dead. And so there's like this victory over death, right? And when I read 251 00:12:51.840 --> 00:12:58.160 this with him raising us up, seating us in these heavenly realms that we've been given access 252 00:12:58.160 --> 00:13:02.160 to the kingdom of God, and we're going to talk about the Holy Spirit later on in this chapter. 253 00:13:02.160 --> 00:13:08.480 We've been given access to the spirit of God, but also we get to share in his victory as well 254 00:13:08.480 --> 00:13:13.760 over death. We get to share, we no longer need to be dead ourselves, but we get to share in his 255 00:13:13.840 --> 00:13:21.360 victory over death. Now we are able to be seated up in heavenly places with him. I'm a bit confused 256 00:13:21.360 --> 00:13:26.560 by it though as well. It's like what does that heavenly place mean? Is it the heavenly realms now? 257 00:13:27.200 --> 00:13:32.320 Is it heavenly realms when I'm dead? Because I get to go to heaven now. Maybe it's a little bit of both, 258 00:13:32.880 --> 00:13:36.960 but definitely we get to share in that victory with God being raised up with Christ. 259 00:13:37.440 --> 00:13:42.240 That's what I asked my intent to. What do you think, bro? I think 260 00:13:43.520 --> 00:13:50.160 yeah, it is a paradox, one of I think it relates to that idea of like the kingdom being 261 00:13:50.800 --> 00:14:02.160 now and not yet. So so interesting being seated in heavenly places with Christ Jesus. 262 00:14:03.120 --> 00:14:10.080 It's a profound idea. I mean the verse continues. It says in order that in the coming ages, 263 00:14:10.080 --> 00:14:16.160 the verses continue, the sentence continues. It says in order that in the coming ages he might show 264 00:14:16.160 --> 00:14:22.880 the incomparable riches of his grace expressed in his kindness to us in Jesus Christ. 265 00:14:24.080 --> 00:14:30.000 That's special. Showing his character. Yeah. I think that's that's so interesting because 266 00:14:30.880 --> 00:14:39.920 it shows that the purpose behind all this is to glorify God's character. He's so other than us 267 00:14:40.800 --> 00:14:48.000 reminds me of the word holy meaning like completely other or different or separate. God is 268 00:14:48.000 --> 00:14:55.440 completely different or separate in all ways to anything that we even like can conceive of 269 00:14:56.160 --> 00:15:02.160 and the purpose of Jesus bringing us to heavenly places is so that he can show 270 00:15:02.720 --> 00:15:10.240 how other he is. Like if that doesn't bring you to a place of worship, I don't know what does. 271 00:15:10.240 --> 00:15:17.120 I think that's part of maybe what where we can bring this passage into our lives today is that 272 00:15:17.120 --> 00:15:24.400 this is like phenomenal news for us. How can we not then turn and worship God and say, Lord, 273 00:15:24.400 --> 00:15:31.440 what else can I offer you? Like what measly offering do I have? I want to give you even that. 274 00:15:31.440 --> 00:15:37.520 Like just whatever small thing I have to offer. What do you guys think it means to bring it into 275 00:15:37.520 --> 00:15:44.720 today? My response to it personally is this is just showing the extent of his love that he will 276 00:15:44.720 --> 00:15:54.320 literally like raise us up to sit beside him. And I think my response is like I have a responsibility 277 00:15:54.320 --> 00:16:02.400 then therefore to like if he's doing this for me, I have a responsibility to to live for him 278 00:16:02.400 --> 00:16:08.560 and have obedience for him and also to like raise others up with me like bring others along as well 279 00:16:08.640 --> 00:16:14.720 isn't it? So it's like that. And I want to live in a way that honest him knowing that he's doing 280 00:16:14.720 --> 00:16:20.640 this for me in response to his love, I want to love and return. And because I think all these 281 00:16:20.640 --> 00:16:24.080 verses is kind of like even though we're awful people, he loves us anyway, there's nothing to do 282 00:16:24.080 --> 00:16:28.800 with us. But the natural response should be to turn around and worship and love him and be obedient 283 00:16:28.800 --> 00:16:35.520 to him. So I think even as you were speaking, I just felt quite like reminded of I need to respond, 284 00:16:35.600 --> 00:16:44.000 I need to react to this for myself. And how can I give my praise and thanks in how I live my life? 285 00:16:44.000 --> 00:16:51.120 I can. Hey, should we keep going? Mateusz, do you want to read verse 8 to 16 and then we'll discuss 286 00:16:51.120 --> 00:17:01.200 that second bit? I'm reading from the new international version. For it is by grace you have 287 00:17:01.200 --> 00:17:08.080 been saved through faith and it is not from yourself, it is the gift of God, not by works so that 288 00:17:08.080 --> 00:17:15.920 no one can boast. For we are God's workmanship created in Christ Jesus to do good works which God 289 00:17:15.920 --> 00:17:23.920 prepared in advance for us to do. Therefore, remember that formerly you who are Gentiles by birth 290 00:17:23.920 --> 00:17:32.480 and called uncircumcised by those who call themselves the circumcision, that's done in the body 291 00:17:32.480 --> 00:17:39.440 by the hands of men. Remember that at the time you were separated from Christ, excluded from 292 00:17:39.440 --> 00:17:46.720 citizenship in Israel and foreigners to the covenant of the promise without hope and without God 293 00:17:47.600 --> 00:17:54.480 but now in Christ Jesus you who once were far away have been brought near through the blood of 294 00:17:54.480 --> 00:18:01.280 Christ. For he himself is our peace who has made the two one and has destroyed the barrier, 295 00:18:02.080 --> 00:18:10.080 the dividing wall of hostility by the abolishing in his flesh, the law with its commandments and 296 00:18:10.080 --> 00:18:19.040 regulation. His purpose was to create in himself one new man out of the two thus making peace 297 00:18:19.040 --> 00:18:28.320 and in his and in this one body of reconcile both of them, both of them to God through the cross 298 00:18:28.320 --> 00:18:34.480 by which he put to death their hostility. That's a lot of words to Nepal. That was fire. 299 00:18:34.640 --> 00:18:43.040 Okay, this is this is what I was thinking as you read verse eight and nine. It says not a 300 00:18:43.040 --> 00:18:48.160 result of works that no one may boast. He's talking about their salvation, no one can boast in your 301 00:18:48.160 --> 00:18:56.320 salvation but that remind me of Luke 10 when Jesus sends out the 72 and they return and he tells them 302 00:18:56.320 --> 00:19:02.960 nevertheless do not rejoice in this of all the spiritual things that have happened but rejoice 303 00:19:02.960 --> 00:19:09.360 that your names are written in heaven. So Jesus says rejoice in your salvation and then here it says 304 00:19:09.360 --> 00:19:16.160 don't boast in your salvation. I realized they're both having the focus on salvation. Sometimes we 305 00:19:16.160 --> 00:19:24.160 can focus on the right thing with the wrong heart and I think the difference between boasting and 306 00:19:24.160 --> 00:19:31.600 rejoicing is that boasting points to us but rejoicing points to God, points to Jesus and Holy 307 00:19:32.320 --> 00:19:38.080 spirit. And so I think sometimes we need to remind ourselves okay I might be thinking about the 308 00:19:38.080 --> 00:19:46.480 right thing but my heart posture needs to go with my knowledge with my understanding and actually 309 00:19:46.480 --> 00:19:53.040 this is not to do with me but that's all the more reason why I can rejoice because it's a gift 310 00:19:53.600 --> 00:19:59.280 and Darryl Johnson says the only way you can respond to a gift the only way you can respect the 311 00:19:59.280 --> 00:20:06.400 gift giver is to receive the gift and that's all we can do with Jesus is just to receive just to 312 00:20:06.400 --> 00:20:13.920 like literally just let ourselves go and fall into his grace. That's like so special I think this 313 00:20:13.920 --> 00:20:20.880 is such a great like eight verse ten is literally the gospel. This that passage that really reminds 314 00:20:20.880 --> 00:20:27.040 me of the Galatians book of Galatians. I thought that when we read the word circumcision. 315 00:20:27.040 --> 00:20:34.000 Hmm yeah and if you don't know I have nothing to say on that if you don't get that reference you 316 00:20:34.000 --> 00:20:40.000 should first read the book of Galatians and then next watch our podcasts on the book of Galatians. 317 00:20:40.000 --> 00:20:44.240 Especially chapter five. Especially chapter five if you want to plan about circumcision. 318 00:20:46.320 --> 00:20:52.880 But my point was I love that I'm not sure if you actually got onto verse 10 of of that little 319 00:20:52.880 --> 00:21:00.160 look but it says for we are God's workmanship created in Christ Jesus to do good works which 320 00:21:00.160 --> 00:21:05.600 God prepared in advance for us to do. So that word workmanship and some translations is handy work 321 00:21:05.600 --> 00:21:14.560 right and the Greek word is poema poema. We'll say it together. Poema. Poema. We've 322 00:21:14.800 --> 00:21:20.320 understood that. I don't actually know how I don't have to pronounce it but it's just basically 323 00:21:20.320 --> 00:21:28.080 means like yeah handy work good work but what's interesting about this verse is that again it's 324 00:21:28.080 --> 00:21:34.720 highlights the nature of the gospel. We're not saved by works right we are only saved by the grace 325 00:21:34.720 --> 00:21:41.520 of God that's why we cannot boast but when we are saved it says to do good works which God prepared 326 00:21:41.520 --> 00:21:48.320 in advance for us to do. So our salvation requires a response basically what it's saying. It is 327 00:21:48.320 --> 00:21:54.000 impossible for us to experience the grace of God and be the same at the other end of it. Actually 328 00:21:54.000 --> 00:21:59.200 there is a response in that salvation and the response is we're going to get onto it again 329 00:21:59.200 --> 00:22:05.440 is to be a part of God's greater mission here on earth and be a part of his body and his temple 330 00:22:05.440 --> 00:22:13.520 here on earth which I am very encouraged by and it's kind of again this challenge to Christians 331 00:22:13.520 --> 00:22:18.400 when you encounter the revelation of Christ is that changing you isn't that is that changing your 332 00:22:18.400 --> 00:22:24.800 works. Do you feel as if do you do you see yourself being a part of God's greatest story here 333 00:22:24.800 --> 00:22:33.520 right now. You'd have fun little thing on workmanship and handy work. Yes I did. You're welcome. 334 00:22:33.520 --> 00:22:40.080 Yeah I was reading that apparently that word is also the word that can get translated into 335 00:22:41.040 --> 00:22:47.680 poem in English. The poem. The poem. Yeah it makes sense. And so it's talking about how 336 00:22:49.040 --> 00:22:58.640 essentially like it's like when Jesus saved us we are made a new creation right but it's 337 00:22:58.720 --> 00:23:06.320 almost like a work of art and so it talks it's also like beautiful and it's like the work of a 338 00:23:06.320 --> 00:23:13.600 craftsman and then the only other time that's used in the whole Bible that word is in Romans 120 339 00:23:13.600 --> 00:23:19.840 where it's talking about it's referencing back to Genesis the original creation is that same word 340 00:23:20.480 --> 00:23:26.640 and I mean I'm going to go back to Darryl Johnson again because I love this guy Canadian goat shout out 341 00:23:27.200 --> 00:23:42.000 if you ever want to hang out shoot me a message. He says that this original creation was ruined it 342 00:23:42.000 --> 00:23:51.760 was like marred by the creation itself and so basically God decided well to replace this old creation 343 00:23:51.760 --> 00:23:56.960 I'm going to create a new creation through Jesus in the most unexpected way death on a cross 344 00:23:57.680 --> 00:24:05.920 and that we are that new creation and special and special and just to add on top of that even more 345 00:24:06.480 --> 00:24:12.080 that this but this idea of like us being this handy work or this like perway more is beautiful 346 00:24:12.080 --> 00:24:18.000 thing it's almost like he didn't just save us to save us from all this darkness and wrath 347 00:24:18.000 --> 00:24:22.000 you also saved us to make something beautiful out of it and I think that's gorgeous. 348 00:24:23.200 --> 00:24:28.800 Bible study tips anytime you read there for in the Bible you want to ask what is it there for 349 00:24:32.080 --> 00:24:35.760 what you didn't like that Bible say sorry I just have heard you said before you read there for 350 00:24:35.760 --> 00:24:43.840 what is it there for crazy it's there because of this so that no okay that's great keep going 351 00:24:43.840 --> 00:24:52.480 because we're saved so what therefore remember that at one time blabber blabber blabber blabber what are 352 00:24:52.480 --> 00:25:01.360 we I don't want to read that I don't want to read it valid was it is he why why is it what is it 353 00:25:01.360 --> 00:25:14.480 therefore so what unity piece yeah you're you're right yeah sorry I got a bit flustered I got 354 00:25:14.480 --> 00:25:19.440 nervous that wasn't going to give the right answer that sometimes happens when you know when 355 00:25:19.440 --> 00:25:27.040 anyway it goes on anyways it goes on about unity and God's peace and what did we read up to 356 00:25:27.040 --> 00:25:32.720 was up 16 16 great you had stuff to say or not didn't you well I just got to say something 357 00:25:32.720 --> 00:25:38.720 on a circumcision piece it's again just pointing we had we had the the first structure in the first 358 00:25:38.720 --> 00:25:44.880 passage right that we read and it was kind of remembering who you were remembering who you were 359 00:25:44.880 --> 00:25:50.640 and then highlighting who you have become in Christ and again in this passage we we finished off 360 00:25:50.960 --> 00:25:56.400 Paul's reminder of who they are in Christ and then we're going therefore again remember that 361 00:25:56.400 --> 00:26:01.760 you were formerly X Y and Z so Paul is again highlighting to the Gentiles and again to us as well 362 00:26:01.760 --> 00:26:08.960 as readers like who were you reflect on where you were reflect on on what life was and for the Gentiles 363 00:26:11.680 --> 00:26:17.040 he used the word the uncircumcised and for them they would have heard this from the Jews as an 364 00:26:17.040 --> 00:26:22.480 insult and so Paul's reminding them of like a hurt maybe that they might be carrying you 365 00:26:22.480 --> 00:26:27.840 will you uncircumcised or in other words you unclean they call something this uncircumcised 366 00:26:27.840 --> 00:26:34.080 unclean and so reminding them of their experience without God but then and and even and then it says 367 00:26:35.360 --> 00:26:42.480 you are called uncircumcised by those themselves who are the circumcised and what it's highlighting 368 00:26:42.480 --> 00:26:47.440 here is this dynamic that the Gentiles would have experienced between themselves and the Jews 369 00:26:47.440 --> 00:26:55.200 and this that is the Jews excluding them from culture from politics from society or like Jewish 370 00:26:55.200 --> 00:26:59.760 society and we see this a little bit in the church and Ephesus at this point as well and so it was 371 00:26:59.760 --> 00:27:06.560 like again bring it back to Galatians it's the the Judeisers which are a strand of Christians 372 00:27:06.560 --> 00:27:12.240 that believed in Jesus but then also added on this extra clause to Christianity which is Jesus 373 00:27:12.240 --> 00:27:17.520 is Messiah but you need to be Jewish in order for you to follow the gospel right and so 374 00:27:19.120 --> 00:27:26.080 Paul is highlighting here that it is the Jew or is is addressing a dynamic that the Jews or these 375 00:27:26.080 --> 00:27:33.200 Judeisers maybe are the ones that are pushing your way and you are excluded from society but then 376 00:27:33.200 --> 00:27:41.280 you see the change in tone again in verse 14 it says for he himself is like no no before that 377 00:27:41.280 --> 00:27:55.200 but now you see the again the but what's what's the but sorry I'm a tour but now in Christ Jesus 378 00:27:55.200 --> 00:28:02.080 you are but now in Christ Jesus you who are once far away have been brought near so the dynamic 379 00:28:02.080 --> 00:28:08.880 the Jews the Judeisers maybe excluding those that were not Gentiles that were Gentiles and then 380 00:28:08.880 --> 00:28:15.600 Paul completely switching the dynamic being but now you have you were far have been brought near 381 00:28:15.600 --> 00:28:22.080 so this is family adoption being you were part of our family we all unite in Christ that was a big 382 00:28:22.080 --> 00:28:27.200 rant for me but that's yeah no and I think he has a huge heart for the Gentiles and I think even this 383 00:28:27.200 --> 00:28:33.280 that that's his entire mission is to get it out past the Jews and that's verse like 14 384 00:28:33.920 --> 00:28:38.640 where's destroying that barrier of the divide in war which there's a lot of stuff in there if you 385 00:28:38.640 --> 00:28:43.440 look in it they're like the structure of the physical temple and there's different like actual 386 00:28:43.440 --> 00:28:49.200 physical barriers that Gentiles were not allowed to pass and that's why Paul is under house arrest 387 00:28:49.200 --> 00:28:53.680 during that time it's because he was wrongfully accused of bringing a Gentile past that war and so 388 00:28:53.680 --> 00:28:58.960 it's really interesting that whilst that's what he's literally being accused of he's like there is 389 00:28:58.960 --> 00:29:03.840 no war guys like this isn't even matter this is not the big deal but the Jewish people at the time 390 00:29:03.840 --> 00:29:12.320 is the ones that have like you know locked him up don't know how house arrest works but yeah I think 391 00:29:12.320 --> 00:29:19.200 it's it's he's really drilling down this idea of life it's for everyone not just the Jews 392 00:29:20.000 --> 00:29:23.600 and what's significant about that verse that you read it says for he himself is our peace 393 00:29:23.600 --> 00:29:30.400 yeah has made the two one and so Jesus is the one who has not only brought peace between the two 394 00:29:30.400 --> 00:29:36.640 so he's uniting two groups but it says he is the peace and so this is a significant aspect of 395 00:29:36.640 --> 00:29:42.160 Jesus not merely bringing us a feeling of peace but being the prince of peace himself yeah I'd 396 00:29:42.160 --> 00:29:46.240 encourage by that like whenever we encounter Jesus we are encountering peace himself 397 00:29:46.720 --> 00:29:51.040 and there's something that we can capitalize on that right I can the best way possible like we 398 00:29:51.040 --> 00:29:57.440 can take advantage of Jesus being peace embodied peace and when we're feeling the lack of peace 399 00:29:57.440 --> 00:30:02.160 maybe anxiety actually coming to Jesus as the prince of peace and asking Lord would you be with me 400 00:30:02.160 --> 00:30:07.680 and what I feel what I receive your peace right now and remembering that peace is not a feeling 401 00:30:08.240 --> 00:30:15.600 it's a person oh we were talking about that last night oh man I'm not feeling super peaceful at the 402 00:30:15.600 --> 00:30:21.360 moment but is he reminded me that sometimes it's not about how you're feeling I think you were 403 00:30:21.360 --> 00:30:29.280 more saying it's like sometimes like a response yeah turning to him is the response I think it's 404 00:30:29.280 --> 00:30:36.160 cool drawing together both of what you said of is he about the temple and like the physical building 405 00:30:36.160 --> 00:30:43.200 the Matthias about like the presence of peace and that actually for for a lot of the readers 406 00:30:43.200 --> 00:30:48.560 especially the Jewish readers they would have considered that the presence of God was only 407 00:30:48.560 --> 00:30:54.080 in the physical temple of the building that he was in like that holy phoenix where only the 408 00:30:54.080 --> 00:31:00.640 high priest could go once a year and actually that presence in that building was thought to be so 409 00:31:00.640 --> 00:31:07.760 powerful that I read that they would like tie a rope around the waist of the high priest when he 410 00:31:07.760 --> 00:31:14.640 went in that one-time year on Yom Kippur David Omen and so that if he went in and the presence 411 00:31:15.280 --> 00:31:20.720 was so powerful that it killed him yeah then they could still drag him out and then give him a 412 00:31:20.720 --> 00:31:26.720 proper burial in rituals I feel like sometimes we don't necessarily think of the presence of God 413 00:31:26.720 --> 00:31:36.480 as being that sort of powerful powerful holy separate thing that we couldn't that people thought 414 00:31:36.480 --> 00:31:45.200 they couldn't even survive if they came into contact they even like saw that and so I think 415 00:31:45.200 --> 00:31:52.880 it's interesting that now that presence is available to us and how can we react I think sometimes 416 00:31:52.880 --> 00:32:01.760 that for us I know I definitely feel the challenge to be more reverent of the Lord that that yes he 417 00:32:01.760 --> 00:32:10.480 is a friend and a father but he's also like God of the entire universe creator of everything 418 00:32:11.040 --> 00:32:18.880 and has such a powerful presence that it can actually unless he unless he chooses to limit himself 419 00:32:18.880 --> 00:32:28.160 in in love it would actually just destroy us because we are not like we would not even be able to 420 00:32:28.160 --> 00:32:33.760 last in his presence but because of his love because of Jesus Christ I am across that that 421 00:32:33.760 --> 00:32:41.360 presence can now bring us all together in the church I wonder what's so significant about the 422 00:32:41.360 --> 00:32:49.760 fact that that's available to to Jews and Greeks or Jews and Gentiles alongside one another 423 00:32:50.720 --> 00:32:57.040 what's what's like the significance of those two together as opposed to just oh Gentiles you are now 424 00:32:57.920 --> 00:33:03.360 you now have the presence available to you as well as the Jews but actually it's almost like no you're 425 00:33:03.360 --> 00:33:07.440 you have this together why is that why do you think that's so significant 426 00:33:10.000 --> 00:33:16.160 well I think well that's always been God's plan but I think if you read the entire Bible it was 427 00:33:16.160 --> 00:33:20.960 always set for the specific family to then go into the wide world and everything and this is it 428 00:33:20.960 --> 00:33:29.280 happening this is it breaking out of that family to everyone and I think it was such a cultural 429 00:33:29.280 --> 00:33:36.080 shift it was a complete like it was so out of their mind what they thought it was so for the Jews 430 00:33:36.080 --> 00:33:42.000 this feels absolutely obscene and to the Gentiles they didn't even know that they were able to have 431 00:33:42.000 --> 00:33:47.600 access to it but I think a big theme of this is is the unity theme of actually it's all of God's 432 00:33:47.600 --> 00:33:53.280 people together we're always chosen people but unity doesn't just happen actually like Jesus 433 00:33:53.280 --> 00:33:59.520 really fought for it he died for it he prayed for it if Jesus praying for it then it's like 434 00:33:59.520 --> 00:34:04.640 gosh this is not an easy thing that just comes but it's something that he really wants us all to be 435 00:34:05.280 --> 00:34:11.440 united in knowing who he is in his love yeah and that's like low-key a perfect transition to 436 00:34:11.440 --> 00:34:19.280 the last part so shall we read Matthias do you want to read those last verses absolutely it says 437 00:34:19.280 --> 00:34:27.440 he came and preached peace to you who were far away and peace to those who were near for through him 438 00:34:27.440 --> 00:34:33.920 we both have access to the Father by one spirit consequently you are no longer foreigners and aliens 439 00:34:33.920 --> 00:34:41.600 but fellow citizens with God's people and members of God's household build God's household built on 440 00:34:41.600 --> 00:34:49.200 the foundation of the Apostle and prophets with Christ Jesus himself as the chief cornerstone in him 441 00:34:49.200 --> 00:34:57.360 the whole building is joined together and rise to become a holy temple in the Lord and in him 442 00:34:57.360 --> 00:35:04.080 you two are being built together to become a dwelling in which God lives by his spirit 443 00:35:04.080 --> 00:35:09.040 Jesus is really against this division yeah it makes me think what do you guys think 444 00:35:10.000 --> 00:35:18.480 if Jesus was here today what do you think would be the kind of divisions that he would be adamantly 445 00:35:18.480 --> 00:35:25.280 preaching against and looking to transform and revolutionize that's a good question 446 00:35:25.920 --> 00:35:36.640 it's a dicey question there could be some really crazy answers to that I'm always a little bit about 447 00:35:36.640 --> 00:35:42.000 my life guys I studied politics I've just finished studying politics and I'm always so even now 448 00:35:42.000 --> 00:35:49.680 after spending some years studying I mean I'm blown away at how divisive politics can be 449 00:35:50.640 --> 00:35:56.640 in my own family politics is as broken relationships people don't speak to each other anymore 450 00:35:56.640 --> 00:36:02.320 because of politics and I understand that it can be very moving and important for someone's life 451 00:36:03.520 --> 00:36:09.680 but I can't help but think if Jesus was here he'd be sitting down with people from different 452 00:36:09.680 --> 00:36:14.880 political parties or different political standings and actually having communion with them right 453 00:36:14.880 --> 00:36:20.320 or breaking bread with them and I just can't break that picture away from my in my head I'm like 454 00:36:21.600 --> 00:36:26.880 yeah the red and the blue sitting together and Jesus there with them and I wonder if Jesus 455 00:36:26.880 --> 00:36:32.880 would have done that how can I let that impact me well I don't know I believe Jesus would do that 456 00:36:32.880 --> 00:36:39.680 least I think there's a lot in this culture that would have a lot to say on and that Jesus would 457 00:36:39.680 --> 00:36:46.000 have a lot to say on I think as I was just trying to think of an answer in that minute like so 458 00:36:46.000 --> 00:36:53.280 much of culture is about me me me me me and even just reading this it's like it's about it's not 459 00:36:53.280 --> 00:36:59.360 let's not boast in ourselves it's all about Jesus and I think we can be quite individualistic I 460 00:36:59.360 --> 00:37:06.320 think we can want our best for ourselves I think it's what is the classic like love god and love 461 00:37:07.040 --> 00:37:14.480 as yourself like it's that commissioning that like great commandment is still really quite 462 00:37:14.480 --> 00:37:19.200 counter-cultural and I'm sure that a lot would be said on that purely just from like our mindset or 463 00:37:19.200 --> 00:37:24.720 how culture is turning off just express yourself just do what you think you do you do but I don't 464 00:37:24.720 --> 00:37:33.440 think I'll ever hear those words out of Jesus mouth of you do you do especially I do yeah I think 465 00:37:33.440 --> 00:37:40.480 that's probably why can I move bring another one do it maybe church divisions you know like 466 00:37:40.480 --> 00:37:44.720 there are there are lots especially in the Protestant church and we're all a part of the greater 467 00:37:44.720 --> 00:37:49.680 Protestant church here at the way but especially in the Protestant church you see a lot of division 468 00:37:49.680 --> 00:37:56.480 and and different churches not communicating or doing like doing fellowship together and I wonder 469 00:37:56.480 --> 00:38:03.920 whether God would have God Jesus would have he would have gone to a Baptist church one day and 470 00:38:03.920 --> 00:38:09.920 and sat with them and and love them and then gone to a Methodist church another day and and sat 471 00:38:09.920 --> 00:38:15.120 with them and love them and maybe he'd have a lot to say on those individual churches but he would 472 00:38:15.120 --> 00:38:19.440 you would you would bring those people together I think probably similar letters the different 473 00:38:19.440 --> 00:38:26.080 churches exactly yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah I'm actually got a little heartbroken the other day 474 00:38:26.160 --> 00:38:35.600 over some division and it was I I met someone who was living not far from London I asked them if 475 00:38:35.600 --> 00:38:41.360 they went to a church those local to them and they said no I actually go to the rival church 476 00:38:42.400 --> 00:38:50.080 and I thought rival judge rival and church or I feel like are two words that should not be put 477 00:38:50.080 --> 00:38:58.400 next to each other and I was I was trying not to judge because I know it's just a language yeah 478 00:38:58.400 --> 00:39:02.400 but it's I think it's language that sometimes can portray exactly what you're saying of 479 00:39:03.680 --> 00:39:10.960 of like division within the body of Christ that actually Jesus would would be bridging I think all 480 00:39:10.960 --> 00:39:21.360 of those divides I think in a in a radical sense I think Jesus would also spend time with those 481 00:39:21.360 --> 00:39:29.040 that cultures rejected yeah even those that we think that we've rightly rejected I think culture 482 00:39:29.040 --> 00:39:35.280 it's I think Jesus would be going into prisons I think Jesus would be spending time with those 483 00:39:36.000 --> 00:39:48.480 who have wronged others and been wronged by others yeah and I think that's imagine if the church 484 00:39:48.480 --> 00:39:56.320 took that I think that could be really powerful I think it's a great question that those listening 485 00:39:56.320 --> 00:40:01.200 should also dwell upon and try and like again like implement that onto their lives of like what 486 00:40:01.280 --> 00:40:08.560 would Jesus say what can I do about it there's a lot of there's a lot of talk in this passage about 487 00:40:09.520 --> 00:40:16.800 it kind of like finishes continuing on the temple theme yeah and the presence of Jesus 488 00:40:18.320 --> 00:40:25.600 what do you guys do daily I'm really curious or like weekly or whatever what do you do to continue 489 00:40:25.600 --> 00:40:33.760 becoming more of a dwelling place for the Lord for me it's the the why behind I'm doing stuff 490 00:40:33.760 --> 00:40:39.440 is it because I want him to follow these rules that I do trust I think God's got the best way 491 00:40:39.440 --> 00:40:45.520 or is it but why am I following those rules and I think I kind of concluded that actually the more 492 00:40:45.520 --> 00:40:57.040 holier places more God can dwell and so for myself the more holy I am surely the more God can 493 00:40:57.040 --> 00:41:02.560 dwell and be a light three meter others so I think my motivation kind of change from just being 494 00:41:02.560 --> 00:41:09.680 like oh let's let's tick box these rules to what is the most I can do to be holy which means I 495 00:41:09.680 --> 00:41:13.840 think some of it is sometimes life does just pass the day just pass but it's actually reflecting 496 00:41:13.840 --> 00:41:17.840 on it have been like what could have done differently how could I spoken differently because words 497 00:41:17.840 --> 00:41:22.640 have so much power how could I have interacted I'll have responded differently and making sure I am 498 00:41:22.640 --> 00:41:28.160 responding to situations not reacting to situations and having that like the emotional but 499 00:41:28.160 --> 00:41:32.320 they also the logical balance because Jesus very much both of them where he feels very deeply but 500 00:41:32.320 --> 00:41:40.640 he doesn't react out of emotion but acts out of um obedience and logic a lot of the time and I 501 00:41:40.640 --> 00:41:46.320 think so part of that is your like practices of like praying and Bible reading but also who you 502 00:41:46.320 --> 00:41:51.040 spending time with the wise walk with the wise you're shaped by he spend time with that is 503 00:41:51.040 --> 00:41:54.720 ultimately the more time he spend with Jesus the more you'll be looking like him but also who 504 00:41:54.720 --> 00:42:00.880 you're spending your time with it means who who's shaping you so if I'm spending time with a group 505 00:42:00.880 --> 00:42:05.360 of people are they making me are they driving me towards God's purpose for me are they driving me 506 00:42:05.360 --> 00:42:10.240 towards God's love like I think it's intentional decisions of who's your main people investing in your 507 00:42:10.240 --> 00:42:16.000 life who where are you getting most your time where what's your motivation behind things I think 508 00:42:16.000 --> 00:42:20.560 that all is I don't think it's quite as simple of what I like things you can do each day like yeah 509 00:42:20.560 --> 00:42:26.400 you can be by where you can pray constantly you can but it's also like actually you the intentionality 510 00:42:26.400 --> 00:42:34.160 in your life to be holy be a holy dwelling pay ace for Jesus is um it's a lifelong mission 511 00:42:34.640 --> 00:42:44.000 is he helped me out what is uh what's the cornerstone okay so a cornerstone okay okay so this is 512 00:42:44.000 --> 00:42:48.000 Jesus is the cornerstone and I kind of was like what the flip is a cornerstone I thought it was 513 00:42:48.000 --> 00:42:51.920 like a foundation stone could you look we hear a lot about foundation but no a cornerstone is not 514 00:42:51.920 --> 00:42:57.920 a foundation it is like a cornerstone it's like the tip of the angle apparently and I think a lot 515 00:42:57.920 --> 00:43:02.400 of the like the I think it's like at the top I think you know what Hoover knows is the cornerstone 516 00:43:02.400 --> 00:43:06.400 is on the corner the tip of the angle and a lot of the time they had like kings names inscribed 517 00:43:06.400 --> 00:43:11.840 in it and stuff but basically this stone is the thing that holds the entire structure together 518 00:43:11.840 --> 00:43:18.880 the entire stability depends on it and so even if it goes everything 519 00:43:20.400 --> 00:43:25.760 stumbles apart so that's again with this building in this temple and Jesus being described as the 520 00:43:25.760 --> 00:43:31.360 cornerstone it's actually he is such a key element holding this entire thing together he's what 521 00:43:31.360 --> 00:43:35.440 it's all about if he's not there then it all kind of so that's like an answer to your question as 522 00:43:35.440 --> 00:43:42.480 well like how do we become an adequate temple for for the Holy Spirit is build our house 523 00:43:44.000 --> 00:43:49.440 with Jesus is the cornerstone and what that means practically is do not put your dependence in 524 00:43:49.440 --> 00:43:54.480 on anything else yeah do not make your cornerstone your job do not make your cornerstone your 525 00:43:54.480 --> 00:43:59.200 relationships do not make your cornerstone your reputation but make your cornerstone your identity 526 00:43:59.200 --> 00:44:05.120 in Jesus and Jesus himself peace himself because when your cornerstone is Jesus he is the consistent 527 00:44:05.120 --> 00:44:09.760 strong cornerstone when it is other things it will crumble and it will fall and and the danger 528 00:44:09.760 --> 00:44:14.640 of putting these things as our cornerstones as as he said they will leave our reputation will change 529 00:44:14.640 --> 00:44:19.360 and we'll lose it and that means our whole temple or the whole our whole life will crumble apart 530 00:44:19.360 --> 00:44:24.400 and I see that in my life I put different things my relationships as my cornerstone and then I 531 00:44:24.400 --> 00:44:30.000 lost those relationships and I found myself without purpose without an understanding of who I am 532 00:44:30.800 --> 00:44:35.440 but there's a greater invitation here to have Jesus your cornerstone yeah which is a beautiful 533 00:44:35.440 --> 00:44:41.680 invitation because Jesus will never forsake us yeah he is peace embodied what a privilege it is 534 00:44:41.680 --> 00:44:47.360 that when you get to have the prince of peace as the not the not the foundation but the cornerstone 535 00:44:47.440 --> 00:44:56.640 to our house but on top of that which is probably what he was pointing to more than my own personal 536 00:44:56.640 --> 00:45:02.400 temple and my own personal cornerstone is the cornerstone of the temple capital T right the 537 00:45:02.400 --> 00:45:09.120 body of Christ which is the church so as a church as you're going to find many churches that are 538 00:45:09.120 --> 00:45:16.000 divided that have maybe different theologies on it on baptism or on on a passage in the Bible 539 00:45:16.560 --> 00:45:21.280 but what makes the church the church is who Jesus is yeah right if this if you go to a 540 00:45:21.280 --> 00:45:25.680 something that calls themselves a church but they don't believe in this Jesus then they're not 541 00:45:25.680 --> 00:45:30.160 church they're something else but what makes a church a church is there is there is their 542 00:45:30.160 --> 00:45:35.600 acknowledgement of who Jesus is and where they place Jesus and our prayer should be that their 543 00:45:35.600 --> 00:45:40.240 church our church your church should but Jesus is the cornerstone it shouldn't be built up on 544 00:45:41.680 --> 00:45:48.880 emotions or on lights or on community or on these things might be good or on good preachers 545 00:45:48.880 --> 00:45:55.680 your cornerstone as a church must be Jesus as well yeah I feel like that's a great challenge 546 00:45:55.680 --> 00:46:01.840 to end on and there's there's nothing more important than making Jesus the cornerstone of everything 547 00:46:02.720 --> 00:46:06.000 I actually wonder if you guys would be up for this this is maybe a little bit of a different 548 00:46:06.000 --> 00:46:12.400 ending I'd love to pray over you guys and over ever watching that Jesus would be the cornerstone 549 00:46:12.400 --> 00:46:17.040 that they would be dependent on him you guys up for that yeah yes all right close it and I wonder 550 00:46:17.040 --> 00:46:23.520 um if if you're watching if you would like to do one of two things you can either just 551 00:46:23.520 --> 00:46:30.400 receive this prayer or you could join us in praying and you could pray as well for everyone else 552 00:46:30.400 --> 00:46:37.280 and it'll actually in doing that we can be a community together come on of people who are 553 00:46:37.280 --> 00:46:44.800 filled with the spirit united united i mean something else in the UK guys oh uh shucks um i don't have 554 00:46:44.800 --> 00:46:51.360 preferences of fit built in we are united in Christ okay let's pray let's pray um lord we thank you 555 00:46:51.360 --> 00:46:58.640 for this great episode that we just had and I want to pray that you would make the cornerstone 556 00:46:58.720 --> 00:47:05.520 of all the people watching this of their lives and is he a Matthias myself that you would be the 557 00:47:05.520 --> 00:47:12.480 cornerstone that lord that we would be dependent on you alone and father that you would build up 558 00:47:12.480 --> 00:47:19.920 each of these people watching to being communities that host your spirit and that we would then 559 00:47:19.920 --> 00:47:26.880 continue to walk in love towards all of those around us and not be divided but united in the name of 560 00:47:26.880 --> 00:47:37.120 Jesus amen amen hey thanks so much for watching and um we hope and pray that you would find the 561 00:47:37.120 --> 00:47:42.800 community um just as we were praying that is filled with the Holy Spirit and that is your own 562 00:47:42.800 --> 00:47:48.320 capital T temple come on um i don't think there's a cornerstone emoji but there is a rock emoji 563 00:47:49.040 --> 00:47:56.960 so leave that in the comments find that rock rock hey thanks for watching the scene next time 564 00:47:57.760 --> 00:48:06.480 oh she was feeling such a good ending until then bye bye