WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:02.520 My family learned that I became Christian. 2 00:00:02.520 --> 00:00:05.120 The Imam in the mosque, where I grew up in Yemen, 3 00:00:05.120 --> 00:00:07.600 divorced my wife and her Islamic city, hello. 4 00:00:07.600 --> 00:00:09.200 They take away my daughters. 5 00:00:09.200 --> 00:00:11.960 My daughters actually remain with my mother. 6 00:00:11.960 --> 00:00:14.280 While their mother, my ex-wife, 7 00:00:14.280 --> 00:00:16.240 was taken by her parents. 8 00:00:16.240 --> 00:00:18.240 And I start to receive death threats every day. 9 00:00:18.240 --> 00:00:23.200 Tell today if you follow my accounts or check my accounts 10 00:00:23.200 --> 00:00:26.640 and you will see how many death threats I receive every day. 11 00:00:27.360 --> 00:00:28.600 But I have Christ. 12 00:00:28.600 --> 00:00:32.920 So Christ, you know, he's with me, he's for me, 13 00:00:32.920 --> 00:00:34.840 and he's with me every day. 14 00:00:34.840 --> 00:00:35.840 Because I belong to him. 15 00:00:35.840 --> 00:00:37.400 I don't belong to myself. 16 00:00:37.400 --> 00:00:39.600 So it's fair to say you couldn't go back to Yemen. 17 00:00:39.600 --> 00:00:41.160 Well, if I go back to Yemen, 18 00:00:41.160 --> 00:00:43.200 it's going to be my speedy ticket to heaven. 19 00:00:45.040 --> 00:00:46.880 They're going to scare me live, seriously. 20 00:00:46.880 --> 00:00:48.280 They're going to scare me live. 21 00:00:48.280 --> 00:00:51.200 They're going to send the message actually to everybody in Yemen. 22 00:00:51.200 --> 00:00:55.320 If you dare to do what John did, this is the result. 23 00:00:55.360 --> 00:00:57.840 Hello, and welcome back to the way you came. 24 00:00:57.840 --> 00:01:00.120 My name's Izzy, and I'm one of the hosts today. 25 00:01:00.120 --> 00:01:01.680 And I'm also joined with... 26 00:01:01.680 --> 00:01:02.560 Solomon. 27 00:01:02.560 --> 00:01:04.680 Huge. Welcome, welcome, Solomon. 28 00:01:04.680 --> 00:01:07.480 And we have some special guests with us. 29 00:01:07.480 --> 00:01:09.520 John and Emma. 30 00:01:09.520 --> 00:01:11.200 Welcome. This is the applause. 31 00:01:11.200 --> 00:01:12.760 Thank you so much for having us. 32 00:01:12.760 --> 00:01:15.960 And we're going to find out a bit more about you guys in a bit. 33 00:01:15.960 --> 00:01:17.680 But for those listening, for reference today, 34 00:01:17.680 --> 00:01:19.800 we are partnering with Open Doors 35 00:01:19.800 --> 00:01:22.160 and specifically focusing on the world watches. 36 00:01:22.160 --> 00:01:23.880 But we'll find out more about that in a minute. 37 00:01:23.920 --> 00:01:25.480 But for now, the title. 38 00:01:29.720 --> 00:01:32.960 Emma, I would love for you to tell us a bit about the work of Open Doors. 39 00:01:32.960 --> 00:01:35.160 What are they doing? What is the world watch list? 40 00:01:35.160 --> 00:01:37.160 Give us a little... Tell us what's happening. 41 00:01:37.160 --> 00:01:39.320 That's a whole load of stuff right there, Izzy. 42 00:01:39.320 --> 00:01:42.160 But yeah, I mean, Open Doors, quite simply, 43 00:01:42.160 --> 00:01:45.120 our vision is that we want to strengthen the church around the world 44 00:01:45.120 --> 00:01:47.520 facing the most extreme persecution. 45 00:01:47.520 --> 00:01:49.520 Like, we exist not to end persecution, 46 00:01:49.520 --> 00:01:51.200 but strengthen the church in the midst of it. 47 00:01:51.200 --> 00:01:53.960 So, shining a light on what's happening around the world, 48 00:01:53.960 --> 00:01:57.440 telling impossible stories of amazing faith and courage, 49 00:01:57.440 --> 00:01:59.360 all of that, and then on the ground, 50 00:01:59.360 --> 00:02:02.040 we're working in like over 70 countries 51 00:02:02.040 --> 00:02:04.880 where faith costs the most and supporting Christians, 52 00:02:04.880 --> 00:02:06.920 helping the church, not just survive, 53 00:02:06.920 --> 00:02:09.640 but shine really brightly and share Jesus in the midst of it. 54 00:02:09.640 --> 00:02:12.040 So, it's just amazing stuff, really. 55 00:02:12.040 --> 00:02:13.440 And in terms of the world watch list, 56 00:02:13.440 --> 00:02:18.040 I mean, that again, it's a whole load of info in one sense, 57 00:02:18.040 --> 00:02:20.840 but it's a list that basically ranks the costliest places 58 00:02:20.840 --> 00:02:22.600 in the world to be a Christian. 59 00:02:22.600 --> 00:02:24.200 So, it's really informative. 60 00:02:24.200 --> 00:02:26.440 It's like a league table, if you like, 61 00:02:26.440 --> 00:02:29.160 of the costliest places to be a Christian, 62 00:02:29.160 --> 00:02:31.920 ranking the most dangerous places. 63 00:02:31.920 --> 00:02:34.880 On one level, you could say it's quite depressing, 64 00:02:34.880 --> 00:02:37.240 but I can't see it as a list of hope, 65 00:02:37.240 --> 00:02:39.160 because it shows me that around the world, 66 00:02:39.160 --> 00:02:42.640 there are Christians like us wanting to follow Jesus, 67 00:02:42.640 --> 00:02:44.720 but willing to live and die for him as well. 68 00:02:44.720 --> 00:02:47.600 So, it's an incredible list of hope 69 00:02:47.600 --> 00:02:50.880 and kind of showing the reality of the worth of Jesus. 70 00:02:50.880 --> 00:02:55.880 And I suppose that is a quite a nice segue into John. 71 00:02:55.880 --> 00:03:00.880 John, you are from Yemen, which is spoiler, top three, 72 00:03:01.760 --> 00:03:04.080 it's the three rest, three and we'll watch this, yeah. 73 00:03:04.080 --> 00:03:06.120 In 2026, it's a world watch list. 74 00:03:06.120 --> 00:03:08.680 And you were raised in the Islamic faith. 75 00:03:08.680 --> 00:03:11.040 Of course, you've now come to Jesus. 76 00:03:11.040 --> 00:03:12.880 And I would be interested in just hearing a little bit 77 00:03:12.880 --> 00:03:14.480 about your story of coming to Jesus 78 00:03:14.480 --> 00:03:18.240 and what that sort of looked like for you in your context. 79 00:03:18.240 --> 00:03:19.960 So basically, I grew up in Yemen 80 00:03:19.960 --> 00:03:22.680 into a Muslim devoted family. 81 00:03:22.680 --> 00:03:25.160 I was devoted Muslim because I grew up 82 00:03:25.160 --> 00:03:28.200 in not only a family, it's a tribe. 83 00:03:28.200 --> 00:03:32.840 And in 2012, my family choose a wife for me. 84 00:03:32.840 --> 00:03:36.120 I was married and I have two daughters from her. 85 00:03:36.120 --> 00:03:38.520 She is my cousin and after that, 86 00:03:38.520 --> 00:03:41.960 I went to the uni to study business administration. 87 00:03:41.960 --> 00:03:43.720 At that time, I was devoted Muslim. 88 00:03:43.720 --> 00:03:46.800 But in the uni, I was praying with my friends 89 00:03:46.800 --> 00:03:49.360 at the student's accommodation. 90 00:03:49.360 --> 00:03:51.840 And there, I started as well, 91 00:03:51.840 --> 00:03:54.560 because I felt burden on me, like on my shoulders, 92 00:03:54.560 --> 00:03:57.120 because I pray every day to Allah. 93 00:03:57.120 --> 00:03:59.920 But I find it, there is no connection. 94 00:03:59.920 --> 00:04:02.160 There is no spiritual connection with Allah. 95 00:04:02.160 --> 00:04:04.560 And I started to ask the leaders and the imams 96 00:04:04.560 --> 00:04:05.960 and they didn't give me answer. 97 00:04:05.960 --> 00:04:09.600 They say, actually, you born as a Muslim, you are as a Muslim. 98 00:04:09.600 --> 00:04:13.320 And after that, I have to submit. 99 00:04:13.320 --> 00:04:16.120 I kept it secret in my heart. 100 00:04:16.120 --> 00:04:18.400 That's a doubt. 101 00:04:18.400 --> 00:04:22.720 And I ended up to go to Mecca, the most holiest place of Islam. 102 00:04:22.720 --> 00:04:27.720 And in Mecca, which I went with my mother, my father, 103 00:04:28.840 --> 00:04:31.080 most of my family was there. 104 00:04:31.080 --> 00:04:34.280 And we have to go seven times around the house of Allah. 105 00:04:34.280 --> 00:04:38.000 And there, which I supposed to increase my Islamic faith, 106 00:04:38.000 --> 00:04:41.960 actually, I decided this is not from the creator, 107 00:04:41.960 --> 00:04:44.360 if there is a creator, this is man-made. 108 00:04:44.360 --> 00:04:46.880 So I give up Islam in front of Qaba. 109 00:04:46.880 --> 00:04:49.280 And but that was really scary, 110 00:04:49.280 --> 00:04:51.520 because Islam was my identity. 111 00:04:51.520 --> 00:04:52.360 Yeah. 112 00:04:52.360 --> 00:04:54.640 And it was really scary. 113 00:04:54.640 --> 00:04:56.360 And I couldn't share it with anybody. 114 00:04:56.360 --> 00:04:59.360 I couldn't tell anybody that I am not Muslim anymore. 115 00:04:59.360 --> 00:05:03.720 So I have to keep it secret in me, this doubts. 116 00:05:03.720 --> 00:05:09.800 And to pretend different of them that I was practicing 117 00:05:09.800 --> 00:05:12.720 as a Muslim, and that was really hard for me, 118 00:05:12.720 --> 00:05:14.480 because I went back to Yemen. 119 00:05:14.480 --> 00:05:15.800 I am in Yemen. 120 00:05:15.800 --> 00:05:17.280 There is no freedom of religious. 121 00:05:17.280 --> 00:05:19.960 There is no freedom of speech. 122 00:05:19.960 --> 00:05:23.400 It's the main religion in Yemen is Islam. 123 00:05:23.400 --> 00:05:27.720 So how did you like find Jesus in all of that? 124 00:05:27.720 --> 00:05:28.320 Yeah. 125 00:05:28.320 --> 00:05:29.840 Great question. 126 00:05:29.840 --> 00:05:32.160 How Jesus found me. 127 00:05:32.160 --> 00:05:36.880 Actually, I left Yemen in 2017 as a refugee in Greece. 128 00:05:36.880 --> 00:05:40.280 And when I was looking for a new life in Greece, 129 00:05:40.280 --> 00:05:42.880 I met many people from different nations. 130 00:05:42.880 --> 00:05:46.840 And in Greece, I met people from Iran, from Syria, 131 00:05:46.840 --> 00:05:49.320 from Iran, from Africa. 132 00:05:49.320 --> 00:05:50.840 And I met someone from Syria. 133 00:05:50.840 --> 00:05:52.800 And we became friends. 134 00:05:52.800 --> 00:05:55.680 And they noticed that he has a tattoo in his hand. 135 00:05:55.680 --> 00:05:58.160 As a Yemeni, I grew up in Yemen. 136 00:05:58.160 --> 00:06:01.280 They taught us that tattoos is forbidden. 137 00:06:01.280 --> 00:06:03.800 But when I saw this Syrian, he has a tattoo. 138 00:06:03.800 --> 00:06:06.320 I told him, why you have this tattoo in your hand? 139 00:06:06.320 --> 00:06:08.880 He said, this is the cross of Jesus Christ, 140 00:06:08.880 --> 00:06:10.360 the Savior of the world. 141 00:06:10.360 --> 00:06:14.160 And that was first time in my life to hear about the Savior 142 00:06:14.160 --> 00:06:15.080 of the world. 143 00:06:15.080 --> 00:06:18.240 Because with a totaz in Islam that Jesus Christ, 144 00:06:18.240 --> 00:06:21.880 or the Messiah, Isa, he was a prophet. 145 00:06:21.880 --> 00:06:23.800 He's not the Savior. 146 00:06:23.800 --> 00:06:26.920 And he was only a slave of Allah. 147 00:06:26.920 --> 00:06:29.360 But when this man from Syria, he's a Christian, 148 00:06:29.360 --> 00:06:31.880 and he told me that Jesus Christ is the Savior of the world. 149 00:06:31.880 --> 00:06:33.880 Wow, I never heard about this before. 150 00:06:33.880 --> 00:06:36.160 So I started to ask a lot of questions. 151 00:06:36.160 --> 00:06:40.480 So from that question, he invited me to Bible study. 152 00:06:40.480 --> 00:06:42.680 From the Bible study, they invited me 153 00:06:42.680 --> 00:06:47.040 to the church for the first time in my life. 154 00:06:47.040 --> 00:06:50.760 In that time, you know, into a church in Greece. 155 00:06:50.760 --> 00:06:52.920 And that church was like a Greek church. 156 00:06:52.920 --> 00:06:55.880 But they translated into English, like international church, 157 00:06:55.880 --> 00:06:59.840 into English, Arabic, Pharisee, French. 158 00:06:59.840 --> 00:07:02.280 And I remember when I entered through the door, 159 00:07:02.280 --> 00:07:04.560 I saw man and woman worshipping. 160 00:07:04.560 --> 00:07:06.280 And I was looking from the back. 161 00:07:06.280 --> 00:07:08.440 What these people doing? 162 00:07:08.440 --> 00:07:11.120 What these crazy people doing? 163 00:07:11.120 --> 00:07:12.760 And you know what, I felt. 164 00:07:12.760 --> 00:07:15.280 I felt jealous inside of me, in my heart, 165 00:07:15.280 --> 00:07:16.320 in my spirit. 166 00:07:16.320 --> 00:07:19.840 Because I thought it must be a divine and secret power 167 00:07:19.840 --> 00:07:22.960 in this place, in the church. 168 00:07:22.960 --> 00:07:24.680 And when they finished their worship, 169 00:07:24.680 --> 00:07:28.320 the pastor, you know, he was Greek, he learned 170 00:07:28.320 --> 00:07:30.320 there is a new people in his church. 171 00:07:30.320 --> 00:07:33.400 And he said, he started to communicate 172 00:07:33.400 --> 00:07:36.480 or to preach the gospel, the gospel of Jesus Christ, 173 00:07:36.480 --> 00:07:38.200 the gospel of the kingdom of heaven. 174 00:07:38.200 --> 00:07:39.840 And he said, we are sinners. 175 00:07:39.840 --> 00:07:42.120 And Saint came from Adam and Eve. 176 00:07:42.120 --> 00:07:44.320 And Saint separated us from God. 177 00:07:44.320 --> 00:07:46.520 Saint became a disease in our heart. 178 00:07:46.520 --> 00:07:48.600 And this is why we need a savior. 179 00:07:48.600 --> 00:07:51.400 And this is why Jesus Christ came all the way from heaven. 180 00:07:51.400 --> 00:07:53.240 And he rescued us on the cross. 181 00:07:53.240 --> 00:07:55.080 He died on the cross for our sins. 182 00:07:55.080 --> 00:07:57.640 On the third day he rose from the grave. 183 00:07:57.640 --> 00:07:58.720 And he's alive. 184 00:07:58.720 --> 00:08:01.920 If you want to be saved, accept him as a Lord and savior. 185 00:08:01.920 --> 00:08:03.400 Yes. Wow. 186 00:08:03.400 --> 00:08:06.200 I want to know more about this Messiah. 187 00:08:06.200 --> 00:08:07.760 Why he died for me? 188 00:08:07.760 --> 00:08:09.280 So they give me the New Testament. 189 00:08:09.280 --> 00:08:11.440 I start to read, you know, Matthew chapter one, 190 00:08:11.440 --> 00:08:13.120 chapter two, chapter three. 191 00:08:13.120 --> 00:08:16.760 And chapter three, I start to read the baptism of Jesus Christ 192 00:08:16.760 --> 00:08:20.160 where Jesus was baptized in the Jordan River. 193 00:08:20.160 --> 00:08:23.040 And where, especially verse 16 and 17, 194 00:08:23.040 --> 00:08:25.120 he says, a voice from heaven said, 195 00:08:25.120 --> 00:08:27.640 this is my beloved son whom I am pleased. 196 00:08:27.640 --> 00:08:30.440 Well, I said, wow, God speaks from heaven. 197 00:08:30.440 --> 00:08:34.120 And that explained to me the father speaks from heaven, 198 00:08:34.120 --> 00:08:36.120 the Holy Spirit descending like a dove. 199 00:08:36.120 --> 00:08:39.960 And Jesus Christ is the Son of God, the Trinity. 200 00:08:39.960 --> 00:08:44.720 And that I believe I received the seed of faith in my heart 201 00:08:44.720 --> 00:08:47.560 that time when I was reading that, you know, it was a divine, 202 00:08:47.560 --> 00:08:48.360 I believe. 203 00:08:48.360 --> 00:08:49.640 I continue to read chapter four. 204 00:08:49.640 --> 00:08:50.880 I was so excited. 205 00:08:50.880 --> 00:08:53.040 I continue to read chapter four and five. 206 00:08:53.040 --> 00:08:55.200 I start to read the sermon in the mount, 207 00:08:55.200 --> 00:08:59.040 which I call it the most powerful teaching in the universe. 208 00:08:59.040 --> 00:09:01.360 And when I start to read the sermon in the mount, 209 00:09:01.360 --> 00:09:02.720 the beat of Jesus blessed other poor 210 00:09:02.720 --> 00:09:05.360 in the Spirit for there is the kingdom of heaven. 211 00:09:05.360 --> 00:09:09.640 I felt the God was disconnected from most of my life. 212 00:09:09.640 --> 00:09:13.240 He's speaking to me from the Bible. 213 00:09:13.240 --> 00:09:17.840 And I said, you know, I continue to read chapter six and seven, 214 00:09:17.880 --> 00:09:21.280 all my questions and my doubts about the Creator, 215 00:09:21.280 --> 00:09:25.040 about prayer, about fasting, about everything was answered 216 00:09:25.040 --> 00:09:26.520 from the scripture. 217 00:09:26.520 --> 00:09:28.920 And I said, this is the God I'm looking for. 218 00:09:28.920 --> 00:09:30.440 This is the God I want to follow. 219 00:09:30.440 --> 00:09:32.720 This is the God I want to give life to. 220 00:09:32.720 --> 00:09:35.520 And I went back to the church the following Sunday 221 00:09:35.520 --> 00:09:37.240 and they stayed in front. 222 00:09:37.240 --> 00:09:39.440 And I give my life to Christ. 223 00:09:39.440 --> 00:09:41.480 And I become newborn again. 224 00:09:41.480 --> 00:09:44.240 I give my, I said, Jesus, you are my Lord. 225 00:09:44.240 --> 00:09:47.000 You died for me and you rose from the grave. 226 00:09:47.000 --> 00:09:49.520 The world behind me, Islam behind me, 227 00:09:49.520 --> 00:09:51.120 and Jesus before me. 228 00:09:51.120 --> 00:09:54.440 I remember as soon as I, after I prayed that, you know, 229 00:09:54.440 --> 00:09:55.960 I give my life to the Lord Jesus Christ, 230 00:09:55.960 --> 00:09:58.880 I open up my eyes, I saw everything so beautiful. 231 00:09:58.880 --> 00:09:59.720 I like you. 232 00:09:59.720 --> 00:10:04.720 And I was so, so, you know, colorful, you know. 233 00:10:06.680 --> 00:10:07.880 So happy. 234 00:10:07.880 --> 00:10:09.960 I was so excited. 235 00:10:09.960 --> 00:10:13.240 Yes, I received the God of love, the God of salvation. 236 00:10:13.240 --> 00:10:14.320 I'm curious. 237 00:10:14.600 --> 00:10:18.520 And how did that sort of feel? 238 00:10:18.520 --> 00:10:21.360 Was it liberating to all of a sudden it kind of like clicked 239 00:10:21.360 --> 00:10:23.880 and was like, this is what I've been missing this whole time? 240 00:10:23.880 --> 00:10:26.480 Or was it, was it scary? 241 00:10:26.480 --> 00:10:29.680 Yeah, I just have, I want to know quite a lot more. 242 00:10:29.680 --> 00:10:31.200 I'm intrigued by this. 243 00:10:31.200 --> 00:10:33.800 When I give my love to the Lord Jesus Christ, 244 00:10:33.800 --> 00:10:37.360 when I received him in my life, I was so happy. 245 00:10:37.360 --> 00:10:38.880 I was so joyful. 246 00:10:38.880 --> 00:10:43.200 Actually, I was so thirsty and so hungry to read the word of God 247 00:10:43.200 --> 00:10:47.400 because in the Bible it says in Matthew 4 or 4, 248 00:10:47.400 --> 00:10:49.240 man cannot live by bread alone, 249 00:10:49.240 --> 00:10:51.640 but by every word comes from the mouth of God. 250 00:10:51.640 --> 00:10:53.080 Actually, I start to read the Bible. 251 00:10:53.080 --> 00:10:55.080 I want to eat the Bible. 252 00:10:55.080 --> 00:10:56.080 I want to eat it. 253 00:10:56.080 --> 00:10:59.640 Actually, I read it from Genesis to Revelation 254 00:10:59.640 --> 00:11:03.600 and it talks me one year to read everything. 255 00:11:03.600 --> 00:11:07.040 After one year, actually, I decided to be baptized. 256 00:11:07.040 --> 00:11:09.640 And I learned the Lord. 257 00:11:09.640 --> 00:11:12.360 I became devoted to the Lord. 258 00:11:12.360 --> 00:11:13.880 I started to share him. 259 00:11:13.880 --> 00:11:18.960 Actually, after my baptism, the Lord convinced me that I should. 260 00:11:18.960 --> 00:11:24.800 I must share him public because it says in Matthew 10, 32, 261 00:11:24.800 --> 00:11:26.680 if you deny me before people, 262 00:11:26.680 --> 00:11:28.560 I will deny you before my father in heaven. 263 00:11:28.560 --> 00:11:30.040 If you acknowledge me before people, 264 00:11:30.040 --> 00:11:32.000 I will acknowledge you before my father in heaven. 265 00:11:32.000 --> 00:11:36.640 And it says, if you love your mother and your father more than me, 266 00:11:36.640 --> 00:11:38.000 you are not worthy of me. 267 00:11:38.000 --> 00:11:40.320 If you love your sons and daughters more than me, 268 00:11:40.320 --> 00:11:41.400 you are not worthy of me. 269 00:11:41.400 --> 00:11:42.960 Peck up your crescent, follow me. 270 00:11:42.960 --> 00:11:44.520 And you know, I have family. 271 00:11:44.520 --> 00:11:46.000 I have a tribe, not only family. 272 00:11:46.000 --> 00:11:46.920 I have a wife. 273 00:11:46.920 --> 00:11:48.200 I have daughters. 274 00:11:48.200 --> 00:11:52.120 I have not only a family, a big tribe. 275 00:11:52.120 --> 00:11:55.120 But for me, no, I want to share the God of love. 276 00:11:55.120 --> 00:11:55.960 It's a command. 277 00:11:55.960 --> 00:11:58.000 The Lord can mend me to share him 278 00:11:58.000 --> 00:12:00.600 because he's the God of love, the God of salvation. 279 00:12:00.600 --> 00:12:05.920 Actually, it was an amazing thing for me to share him. 280 00:12:05.920 --> 00:12:08.720 And this is how I start to share on social media. 281 00:12:08.760 --> 00:12:12.400 I didn't keep it for me because this is not only for me. 282 00:12:12.400 --> 00:12:15.520 Yes, if I am the only one on earth, 283 00:12:15.520 --> 00:12:18.040 he will still come to the earth to rescue me. 284 00:12:18.040 --> 00:12:22.120 But he saved us so we can serve him in holiness 285 00:12:22.120 --> 00:12:23.600 and we can share him. 286 00:12:23.600 --> 00:12:25.800 So actually, I start to share him public 287 00:12:25.800 --> 00:12:27.280 without any fear. 288 00:12:28.600 --> 00:12:32.240 Coming back to growing up in Yemen, 289 00:12:32.240 --> 00:12:34.600 and that's where your tribe are and your family are. 290 00:12:34.600 --> 00:12:40.240 So what was the consequence or the response, I guess, 291 00:12:40.240 --> 00:12:42.840 from renouncing your Islamic faith? 292 00:12:42.840 --> 00:12:45.360 And then choosing Christianity as well, 293 00:12:45.360 --> 00:12:50.080 how does that impact what your life could be? 294 00:12:50.080 --> 00:12:54.360 Yes, when I declared my faith public, 295 00:12:54.360 --> 00:12:59.080 actually, as a Yemeni, the Yemeni influencers, 296 00:12:59.080 --> 00:13:00.760 Muslims influencers from Yemen, 297 00:13:00.760 --> 00:13:02.520 they start to do videos against me. 298 00:13:02.520 --> 00:13:05.800 So they make my videos more viral. 299 00:13:05.800 --> 00:13:09.640 So my family learned that I became Christian. 300 00:13:09.640 --> 00:13:11.040 The Imam in the mosque, 301 00:13:11.040 --> 00:13:13.240 where I grew up in Yemen divorced my wife 302 00:13:13.240 --> 00:13:15.440 under Islamic Sharia law. 303 00:13:15.440 --> 00:13:17.040 So they said, Fatwa against me, 304 00:13:17.040 --> 00:13:18.640 they take away my daughters. 305 00:13:18.640 --> 00:13:21.400 My daughters actually remain with my mother 306 00:13:21.400 --> 00:13:23.680 while their mother, my ex-wife, 307 00:13:23.680 --> 00:13:26.120 was sticking by her parents. 308 00:13:26.120 --> 00:13:27.680 So my daughters, they are the victim 309 00:13:27.680 --> 00:13:31.320 because they lost their father and they lost their mother. 310 00:13:32.520 --> 00:13:34.280 And I start to receive death threats every day. 311 00:13:34.280 --> 00:13:37.560 Tell today, if you go to social media, 312 00:13:37.560 --> 00:13:40.840 follow my accounts or check my accounts, 313 00:13:40.840 --> 00:13:44.320 and you will see how many death threats I receive every day. 314 00:13:44.320 --> 00:13:47.840 Wow, every day, but I have Christ. 315 00:13:47.840 --> 00:13:52.160 So Christ, he's with me, he's for me, 316 00:13:52.160 --> 00:13:55.040 and he's with me every day because I belong to him. 317 00:13:55.040 --> 00:13:57.200 I don't belong to myself. 318 00:13:57.200 --> 00:13:59.400 So it's fair to say you couldn't go back to Yemen. 319 00:13:59.400 --> 00:14:00.920 Well, if I go back to Yemen, 320 00:14:00.920 --> 00:14:03.120 it's gonna be my speedy ticket to heaven. 321 00:14:03.120 --> 00:14:06.720 They're gonna scare me live, seriously. 322 00:14:06.720 --> 00:14:08.080 They're gonna scare me live. 323 00:14:08.080 --> 00:14:09.520 They're gonna send the message actually 324 00:14:09.520 --> 00:14:11.000 to everybody in Yemen. 325 00:14:11.000 --> 00:14:13.840 If you dare to do what John did, 326 00:14:13.840 --> 00:14:15.000 this is the result. 327 00:14:16.480 --> 00:14:18.400 They're gonna execute me public. 328 00:14:18.400 --> 00:14:19.240 Yeah. 329 00:14:19.240 --> 00:14:21.760 You know, it's not just in Yemen 330 00:14:21.760 --> 00:14:23.240 that we're hearing these sort of, 331 00:14:23.240 --> 00:14:25.640 these stories of persecution. 332 00:14:25.640 --> 00:14:28.560 And Emma, I'd love to hear maybe some stories you've heard 333 00:14:28.560 --> 00:14:30.040 from sort of similar context 334 00:14:30.040 --> 00:14:32.560 in these extreme environments about Christians. 335 00:14:32.560 --> 00:14:34.280 If you have any to share, I'll be yours. 336 00:14:34.280 --> 00:14:36.840 Well, I mean, it's an incredible story, isn't it? 337 00:14:36.840 --> 00:14:38.400 John's story. 338 00:14:38.400 --> 00:14:40.720 It just reminds me that we've got an impossible God 339 00:14:40.720 --> 00:14:42.240 that's doing amazing things. 340 00:14:42.240 --> 00:14:45.360 And John's story, it's just, you know, 341 00:14:45.360 --> 00:14:47.680 the fact that he has faith unraveled 342 00:14:47.680 --> 00:14:52.120 at the heart of Islam in Saudi Arabia, it's incredible. 343 00:14:52.120 --> 00:14:53.520 And it kind of just reminds me, 344 00:14:53.520 --> 00:14:55.440 and it sums up the vision of open doors, really, 345 00:14:55.440 --> 00:14:58.480 that God, there is no person or place in God 346 00:14:58.480 --> 00:14:59.320 cannot reach. 347 00:14:59.320 --> 00:15:01.520 And that should inspire us too, like in our own, 348 00:15:01.520 --> 00:15:04.840 sort of what Jesus, in our own context and places and spaces 349 00:15:04.840 --> 00:15:08.440 that he leads us in, I think, to God is on the move 350 00:15:08.440 --> 00:15:10.760 and can do absolutely anything. 351 00:15:10.760 --> 00:15:12.080 And I guess in part, 352 00:15:12.080 --> 00:15:14.120 part, answer to your questions, Solomon, 353 00:15:14.120 --> 00:15:16.880 like, you know, some of the most dangerous places 354 00:15:16.880 --> 00:15:18.880 God is at work, and just recently 355 00:15:18.880 --> 00:15:21.560 heard this incredible quote from a North Korean escape. 356 00:15:21.560 --> 00:15:24.400 So North Korea is number one on that world watch list. 357 00:15:24.400 --> 00:15:27.560 So the hardest, most dangerous place in the world 358 00:15:27.560 --> 00:15:29.880 to be a Christian, yeah, under the cover of darkness, 359 00:15:29.880 --> 00:15:32.240 there's like a secret church that is growing. 360 00:15:32.240 --> 00:15:34.480 And a North Korean escape, he recently said, 361 00:15:34.480 --> 00:15:37.400 he said, you would not believe what God is doing 362 00:15:37.400 --> 00:15:39.280 in my country. 363 00:15:39.280 --> 00:15:41.880 Basically, there are sort of people coming to faith, 364 00:15:41.880 --> 00:15:43.920 seeing visions and dreams of Jesus. 365 00:15:43.920 --> 00:15:47.360 And he said, you know, if you have any doubts, 366 00:15:47.360 --> 00:15:50.120 your doubts would be completely taken away 367 00:15:50.120 --> 00:15:52.520 if you could see what God is doing in North Korea. 368 00:15:52.520 --> 00:15:55.040 And I just love that, that there is no place 369 00:15:55.040 --> 00:15:56.720 that God cannot break in. 370 00:15:56.720 --> 00:16:00.120 And also, you know, in terms of just other things 371 00:16:00.120 --> 00:16:02.920 that God's doing, sharing not the story with you, 372 00:16:02.920 --> 00:16:03.920 if you like. 373 00:16:03.920 --> 00:16:06.360 Please do, yeah, please, please go. 374 00:16:06.360 --> 00:16:09.320 Yeah, and I love this, because I think, you know, 375 00:16:09.320 --> 00:16:13.640 it can feel so hard, content, 388 million Christians 376 00:16:13.640 --> 00:16:15.080 paying a high price for their faith, 377 00:16:15.080 --> 00:16:17.760 living in the context of extreme persecution 378 00:16:17.760 --> 00:16:19.160 or high levels of discrimination. 379 00:16:19.160 --> 00:16:20.600 And it's tough and it's hard. 380 00:16:20.600 --> 00:16:22.960 And it can kind of seem like, God, what are you doing? 381 00:16:22.960 --> 00:16:24.600 You know, where are you? 382 00:16:24.600 --> 00:16:26.120 But actually, he's right there. 383 00:16:26.120 --> 00:16:27.800 He's right there in that fire, 384 00:16:27.800 --> 00:16:31.720 raiding persecution and he's doing stuff behind the scenes. 385 00:16:31.720 --> 00:16:35.120 And so for me, I think that really builds my faith 386 00:16:35.120 --> 00:16:37.760 and I hope builds those watching and tuning 387 00:16:37.760 --> 00:16:39.040 into this podcast as well. 388 00:16:39.040 --> 00:16:41.320 And so I love stories of what God's doing 389 00:16:41.320 --> 00:16:42.360 in the persecuted church. 390 00:16:42.360 --> 00:16:45.360 So I think of a story of someone called Amirah 391 00:16:45.360 --> 00:16:47.240 from North Africa. 392 00:16:47.240 --> 00:16:50.440 And she not so long ago became a Christian 393 00:16:50.440 --> 00:16:52.440 and she was similar to background to John 394 00:16:52.440 --> 00:16:54.280 from an Islamic background. 395 00:16:54.280 --> 00:16:56.560 New nothing really of who Jesus was. 396 00:16:56.560 --> 00:16:57.920 But one night she has a dream. 397 00:16:57.920 --> 00:17:00.760 And in this dream, this man and what appears 398 00:17:00.760 --> 00:17:03.240 and comes to her and says, I'm Jesus 399 00:17:03.240 --> 00:17:04.960 and I want to be your friend. 400 00:17:04.960 --> 00:17:06.880 I'm Jesus and I want to be your friend. 401 00:17:06.880 --> 00:17:08.360 She sleeps soundly. 402 00:17:08.360 --> 00:17:10.920 The following day, she wakes up and she's just like, 403 00:17:10.920 --> 00:17:13.200 I've got to find out a bit more about Jesus. 404 00:17:13.200 --> 00:17:16.040 You know, she had a bit of a vague idea of him 405 00:17:16.040 --> 00:17:19.160 as a prophet in Islam, but she wanted to find out more 406 00:17:19.160 --> 00:17:21.320 that he wanted to meet her and know her. 407 00:17:21.360 --> 00:17:23.640 And amazingly, the Holy Spirit guides 408 00:17:23.640 --> 00:17:26.120 her to a church leader. 409 00:17:26.120 --> 00:17:29.880 Like in this country, there are no physical church buildings. 410 00:17:29.880 --> 00:17:31.840 They're pretty impossible for her to know where to go, 411 00:17:31.840 --> 00:17:35.680 but she's led and she knocks on the door of this house 412 00:17:35.680 --> 00:17:39.160 and the door is open by a pastor. 413 00:17:39.160 --> 00:17:43.280 And he sort of looks around a little bit curiously, 414 00:17:43.280 --> 00:17:45.080 but wondering if she's been followed, 415 00:17:45.080 --> 00:17:47.040 the Islamic woman standing before him. 416 00:17:47.040 --> 00:17:50.480 Anyway, he lets her in, they have a conversation 417 00:17:50.520 --> 00:17:52.360 and she tells them about this dream. 418 00:17:52.360 --> 00:17:54.600 I'm Jesus and I want to be your friend. 419 00:17:54.600 --> 00:17:56.120 And at the end of the conversation, 420 00:17:56.120 --> 00:17:58.280 oh, at the end of her story, 421 00:17:58.280 --> 00:18:00.760 the pastor explains to her how Jesus can be her friend. 422 00:18:00.760 --> 00:18:03.440 And so she gives her life to Jesus 423 00:18:03.440 --> 00:18:05.360 at the end of the time that she's with him. 424 00:18:05.360 --> 00:18:07.560 She's like, I've got to go and tell all my friends about this. 425 00:18:07.560 --> 00:18:09.240 And he's like, no, please don't. 426 00:18:09.240 --> 00:18:10.480 Like, it could be, you know, 427 00:18:10.480 --> 00:18:12.520 really thought for you to go and do that. 428 00:18:12.520 --> 00:18:14.360 But anyway, she's like, no, I'm off. 429 00:18:14.360 --> 00:18:16.080 And a couple of weeks go by 430 00:18:16.080 --> 00:18:18.160 and the pastor hasn't heard about this woman. 431 00:18:18.160 --> 00:18:19.320 So he's really worried. 432 00:18:19.320 --> 00:18:21.360 He's like, what on earth has happened to her? 433 00:18:21.360 --> 00:18:23.280 Fearing the worst, if you like. 434 00:18:23.280 --> 00:18:25.120 Anyway, a couple of weeks past, 435 00:18:25.120 --> 00:18:26.440 there's another knock on his door 436 00:18:26.440 --> 00:18:29.280 and this woman is standing before him alive and well 437 00:18:29.280 --> 00:18:30.960 and he's like ecstatic. 438 00:18:30.960 --> 00:18:32.320 So he lets her come in 439 00:18:32.320 --> 00:18:34.200 and she said, you're never going to guess. 440 00:18:34.200 --> 00:18:37.040 I went and spoke to every single woman in my mosque 441 00:18:37.040 --> 00:18:38.920 and we all had the same dream. 442 00:18:38.920 --> 00:18:41.160 A man in white appearing saying, I'm Jesus 443 00:18:41.160 --> 00:18:42.640 and I want to be your friends. 444 00:18:42.640 --> 00:18:44.400 And I just love that story 445 00:18:44.400 --> 00:18:47.280 because it just reminds me that, yeah, God is at work. 446 00:18:47.280 --> 00:18:49.840 You know, there might be dictators or belief systems 447 00:18:49.840 --> 00:18:51.800 that say there are no-go zones, 448 00:18:51.800 --> 00:18:54.320 but actually that doesn't exist for Jesus. 449 00:18:54.320 --> 00:18:56.160 He's at work alive and well, 450 00:18:56.160 --> 00:18:58.040 changing lives in the hardest 451 00:18:58.040 --> 00:18:59.600 and most dangerous places. 452 00:19:01.440 --> 00:19:03.200 Hello, I'm just interrupting the podcast. 453 00:19:03.200 --> 00:19:04.360 I say, thanks for listening 454 00:19:04.360 --> 00:19:05.600 and I hope you're enjoying. 455 00:19:05.600 --> 00:19:08.200 But we would love that if you're watching on YouTube 456 00:19:08.200 --> 00:19:10.200 to give us a like and a subscribe 457 00:19:10.200 --> 00:19:12.720 and if you're listening on Apple or Spotify, 458 00:19:12.720 --> 00:19:14.240 then why don't you give us a follow 459 00:19:14.240 --> 00:19:15.160 and then it all rating 460 00:19:15.160 --> 00:19:18.040 because our mission is to share the good news of Jesus 461 00:19:18.040 --> 00:19:19.520 with every young person online 462 00:19:19.520 --> 00:19:21.840 and you doing that really helps make that possible. 463 00:19:21.840 --> 00:19:23.800 But let's get back to the episode. 464 00:19:28.120 --> 00:19:30.760 And I love hearing these stories 465 00:19:30.760 --> 00:19:32.280 because it makes it real. 466 00:19:32.280 --> 00:19:34.320 Like it's not just you hear the ties 467 00:19:34.320 --> 00:19:37.440 for Persecutor Church and people finding Jesus 468 00:19:37.440 --> 00:19:38.440 in the midst of that. 469 00:19:38.440 --> 00:19:40.760 Like it's actual real individual people 470 00:19:40.760 --> 00:19:42.160 like yourself. 471 00:19:42.160 --> 00:19:43.520 And I suppose for you, John, 472 00:19:43.600 --> 00:19:44.760 your response to that, 473 00:19:44.760 --> 00:19:47.160 you've got this real passion for evangelism, 474 00:19:47.160 --> 00:19:49.760 especially those in the Muslim context. 475 00:19:49.760 --> 00:19:52.600 And I'd love to hear a bit about that. 476 00:19:52.600 --> 00:19:54.760 Like how have you found that? 477 00:19:54.760 --> 00:19:56.120 What stories have come out of it? 478 00:19:56.120 --> 00:19:59.280 How did you get to that point of wanting to do that, et cetera? 479 00:19:59.280 --> 00:20:01.480 Actually, brother Andor says, 480 00:20:01.480 --> 00:20:03.400 our prayers go where we can't. 481 00:20:03.400 --> 00:20:05.000 And I say to myself, 482 00:20:05.000 --> 00:20:07.000 well, my videos go where I can't. 483 00:20:07.000 --> 00:20:08.520 I can't go back to you, man. 484 00:20:08.520 --> 00:20:11.200 But through the through media, through videos, 485 00:20:11.200 --> 00:20:12.800 through social media, I can reach 486 00:20:13.080 --> 00:20:14.440 out to my people. 487 00:20:14.440 --> 00:20:18.920 And there is 300 million Arabic speaking around the world. 488 00:20:18.920 --> 00:20:22.960 And Yemen almost 35 million. 489 00:20:22.960 --> 00:20:25.040 So they need to know Jesus Christ. 490 00:20:25.040 --> 00:20:26.560 They need to hear about the Gospel. 491 00:20:26.560 --> 00:20:30.320 And this is my responsibility as a follower of Jesus Christ 492 00:20:30.320 --> 00:20:33.040 to share the Gospel, to share the good news, 493 00:20:33.040 --> 00:20:36.320 the Gospel of the Kingdom of Heaven. 494 00:20:36.320 --> 00:20:40.520 So I use social media to share it in Arabic. 495 00:20:40.520 --> 00:20:42.240 And sometimes I do in English, 496 00:20:42.240 --> 00:20:46.120 but mostly in Arabic, there is a team behind the scene. 497 00:20:46.120 --> 00:20:48.400 We receive MSGS every day, 498 00:20:48.400 --> 00:20:52.320 like a hundred of MSGS every day. 499 00:20:52.320 --> 00:20:55.600 For seekers, of course, for persecution, 80%, 500 00:20:55.600 --> 00:20:57.800 85% is persecution. 501 00:20:57.800 --> 00:21:01.280 But that 15% they are seekers. 502 00:21:01.280 --> 00:21:04.960 And these seekers, we try to connect them 503 00:21:04.960 --> 00:21:07.200 with local ministries, 504 00:21:07.200 --> 00:21:10.160 hidden in Middle East and they look after them, 505 00:21:10.160 --> 00:21:11.400 they teach them the Gospel, 506 00:21:11.400 --> 00:21:12.880 they baptize them. 507 00:21:12.880 --> 00:21:16.040 And I can tell you a story like two years ago, 508 00:21:16.040 --> 00:21:21.040 a man, a student from Yemen, he contacted us. 509 00:21:21.040 --> 00:21:23.080 He saw my videos on social media 510 00:21:23.080 --> 00:21:25.800 and he was radical Muslim. 511 00:21:25.800 --> 00:21:28.400 And he wanted to convert us back to Islam 512 00:21:28.400 --> 00:21:32.000 because he said, no, there is no Yemeni Muslim Christian. 513 00:21:32.000 --> 00:21:34.120 This is no way. 514 00:21:34.120 --> 00:21:36.400 We need to convert him back to Islam. 515 00:21:36.400 --> 00:21:38.520 We received him with love. 516 00:21:38.520 --> 00:21:40.560 And we share the love of Christ with him. 517 00:21:40.560 --> 00:21:43.400 After that, he became Christian. 518 00:21:43.400 --> 00:21:46.880 And he was a student at the university. 519 00:21:46.880 --> 00:21:50.560 Then he told his best friend in the university 520 00:21:50.560 --> 00:21:54.240 that he's a Christian because he started to evangelize to him. 521 00:21:54.240 --> 00:21:57.560 His friend report him to the university. 522 00:21:57.560 --> 00:21:59.560 They kicked him from the university. 523 00:21:59.560 --> 00:22:02.520 His father found out how he beat him. 524 00:22:02.520 --> 00:22:07.280 And so the mother involved and the mother was divorced 525 00:22:07.280 --> 00:22:10.800 because he stood with her son. 526 00:22:10.800 --> 00:22:12.320 And the son was kicked. 527 00:22:12.320 --> 00:22:18.320 And this man, he found the support through open doors. 528 00:22:18.320 --> 00:22:23.960 And when he used to have a small business in Yemen 529 00:22:23.960 --> 00:22:26.480 and when his father found out that he has a business, 530 00:22:26.480 --> 00:22:29.760 he took the gun and he went to his shop 531 00:22:29.760 --> 00:22:31.720 and he started to shoot randomly. 532 00:22:31.720 --> 00:22:34.600 Praise the Lord, he didn't hit him. 533 00:22:34.600 --> 00:22:36.400 So this man was rescued. 534 00:22:36.400 --> 00:22:38.360 And now he's in a safe city. 535 00:22:38.360 --> 00:22:42.280 This year, we sent him to a safe country. 536 00:22:42.280 --> 00:22:43.480 He was baptized. 537 00:22:43.480 --> 00:22:46.880 And he said, I want to go back to Yemen to share with my people. 538 00:22:46.880 --> 00:22:49.400 Because if I don't share with my people who's going to share. 539 00:22:49.400 --> 00:22:52.640 So every time I hear about him, it's really inspired me. 540 00:22:52.640 --> 00:22:55.120 Because he said, no, I don't want to be outside of Yemen. 541 00:22:55.120 --> 00:22:56.840 I want to be in Yemen. 542 00:22:56.840 --> 00:22:59.160 If they tell me I don't care. 543 00:22:59.160 --> 00:23:00.280 And he's still alive. 544 00:23:00.280 --> 00:23:04.600 He visit, you know, there is a secret church inside of Yemen 545 00:23:04.600 --> 00:23:07.160 so he can visit, you know, secretly. 546 00:23:07.160 --> 00:23:08.480 But the Lord is working. 547 00:23:08.480 --> 00:23:10.920 Nobody can stop the gas spell. 548 00:23:10.920 --> 00:23:13.680 No, I think it's amazing as well. 549 00:23:13.680 --> 00:23:17.000 I just, oh, you're having such confidence. 550 00:23:17.000 --> 00:23:18.120 And I mean, it's true. 551 00:23:18.120 --> 00:23:19.960 The Gospel is true, but the confidence in it 552 00:23:19.960 --> 00:23:24.000 to go to those places and to the Muslim context. 553 00:23:24.000 --> 00:23:27.000 And some very extreme context actually 554 00:23:27.000 --> 00:23:29.400 and going in and being like, this is the truth. 555 00:23:29.400 --> 00:23:32.480 And not being afraid of a consequence of it 556 00:23:32.480 --> 00:23:34.720 is very inspiring. 557 00:23:34.720 --> 00:23:37.080 Yes, of course, because, you know, this is the Gospel. 558 00:23:37.080 --> 00:23:39.640 The early church, the disciple in the early church, 559 00:23:39.640 --> 00:23:41.840 they died for their faith. 560 00:23:41.840 --> 00:23:46.800 And for me, like I apply this verses every day into my life, 561 00:23:46.800 --> 00:23:51.480 where it says in Romans 14, if I die, I die for Christ. 562 00:23:51.480 --> 00:23:52.760 If I live, I live for Christ. 563 00:23:52.760 --> 00:23:55.720 Whether if I die or I live, I belong to the Lord. 564 00:23:55.720 --> 00:23:57.800 If I don't belong to myself, actually every day, 565 00:23:57.800 --> 00:24:01.720 I remind myself, Lord Jesus Christ, I belong to you. 566 00:24:01.720 --> 00:24:03.400 Here I am, send me. 567 00:24:03.400 --> 00:24:04.760 I am your vessel. 568 00:24:04.760 --> 00:24:06.080 I am your ambassador. 569 00:24:06.080 --> 00:24:08.320 I am, you called me Sultan Light. 570 00:24:08.320 --> 00:24:09.800 Here I am, send me. 571 00:24:09.800 --> 00:24:10.640 Yeah. 572 00:24:10.640 --> 00:24:14.240 So for me, like I use social media, 573 00:24:14.240 --> 00:24:18.720 when I am on the train, on the plane, I share Jesus Christ. 574 00:24:18.720 --> 00:24:19.920 Because this is who I am. 575 00:24:19.920 --> 00:24:23.200 I carry the kingdom of heaven with me inside of me. 576 00:24:23.200 --> 00:24:23.880 Yeah. 577 00:24:23.880 --> 00:24:26.320 And there's been a lot of cost for that as well. 578 00:24:26.320 --> 00:24:29.560 You mentioned some of that, but didn't want to share any more. 579 00:24:29.560 --> 00:24:32.640 Yes, of course, death rates every day. 580 00:24:32.640 --> 00:24:36.160 But death rates, it's, it's build me up in, in maturity. 581 00:24:36.160 --> 00:24:38.120 It's make me strong in my faith. 582 00:24:38.120 --> 00:24:44.040 I believe that like, like persecution and Christian faith, 583 00:24:44.040 --> 00:24:44.840 it's hand in hand. 584 00:24:44.840 --> 00:24:46.800 We can separate them. 585 00:24:46.800 --> 00:24:50.840 We can, Jesus Christ said, you will have troubles in this world. 586 00:24:50.840 --> 00:24:52.560 But take a heart. 587 00:24:52.560 --> 00:24:55.040 Remember that I overcome this world. 588 00:24:55.040 --> 00:24:58.280 So Jesus Christ in the Bible, he said, 589 00:24:58.280 --> 00:25:03.280 blessed are when people persecute you and say all kinds of evil things against you. 590 00:25:03.280 --> 00:25:04.280 Rejoice. 591 00:25:04.280 --> 00:25:06.760 So for me, I rejoice in this persecution. 592 00:25:06.760 --> 00:25:09.880 Actually, if there is a time, there is no persecution, 593 00:25:09.880 --> 00:25:12.400 I say, maybe I am not doing it. 594 00:25:12.400 --> 00:25:13.400 Yeah. 595 00:25:13.400 --> 00:25:14.400 Yeah, seriously. 596 00:25:14.400 --> 00:25:15.080 That's crazy. 597 00:25:15.080 --> 00:25:19.160 So now I consider persecution, I consider it is pure joy, 598 00:25:19.160 --> 00:25:24.440 according to the, to the, to James, when he said in, in the book of James, 599 00:25:24.440 --> 00:25:30.800 brothers and sisters, consider it pure joy when you receive many persecution or many trials. 600 00:25:30.800 --> 00:25:32.560 So this is how we grow in our faith. 601 00:25:32.560 --> 00:25:37.840 Persecution is built, Christian faith and nobody can stop persecution 602 00:25:37.840 --> 00:25:40.680 because persecution will make the church strong. 603 00:25:40.680 --> 00:25:45.000 Persecution is the seed of the church. 604 00:25:46.000 --> 00:25:50.600 I was just going to say in terms of what John's saying. 605 00:25:50.600 --> 00:25:55.040 I think it's just really like for us, it's pretty extreme, isn't it? 606 00:25:55.040 --> 00:25:57.560 Here in John's story and perhaps some of you watching it, 607 00:25:57.560 --> 00:26:00.640 are feeling like, well, let's just bonkers and it is bonkers, John. 608 00:26:00.640 --> 00:26:02.680 But it's, it's, it's fully God, isn't it? 609 00:26:02.680 --> 00:26:07.560 And I think just in my experience of interacting with, with Christians who are 610 00:26:07.560 --> 00:26:12.480 counting the cost in extreme ways like John, I think what happens is that, you know, 611 00:26:12.480 --> 00:26:16.640 it is so black and white for them that, you know, and I remember that 612 00:26:16.640 --> 00:26:20.440 Persecution Christians sort of say to me once, you know, if you've got a gun to your head 613 00:26:20.440 --> 00:26:24.520 and you're told to deny Jesus, it's really unlikely in that moment that you will, 614 00:26:24.520 --> 00:26:26.520 that you're, you're, you're keep going. 615 00:26:26.520 --> 00:26:27.920 And persecution does that. 616 00:26:27.920 --> 00:26:30.240 I think it just, it strips away everything. 617 00:26:30.240 --> 00:26:35.360 So really all you have is Jesus, whereas I think in the context that we live in here 618 00:26:35.360 --> 00:26:40.400 in the UK and other places where we have freedom and so much comfort and ease 619 00:26:40.400 --> 00:26:44.840 that it just can make you feel really lukewarm and a bit apathetic and a bit sleepy. 620 00:26:44.840 --> 00:26:48.960 I don't know if you relate to that, but I often feel like that, which is why I think 621 00:26:48.960 --> 00:26:52.960 we need to his stories like John's and other Christians around the world, 622 00:26:52.960 --> 00:26:53.960 because it wakes us up. 623 00:26:53.960 --> 00:26:59.160 It's like, it's like, like awake, yeah, it's awake, I call an antidote, I suppose, 624 00:26:59.160 --> 00:27:03.800 to the kind of sleepy, kind of comfortable casual kind of faith, 625 00:27:03.800 --> 00:27:06.440 which we can so easily sort of settle for. 626 00:27:06.440 --> 00:27:11.120 So for me, it's just really enriching to hear and meet people like John. 627 00:27:11.120 --> 00:27:16.080 And you know, just building on that, we do have a lot of listeners that are just in the West, 628 00:27:16.080 --> 00:27:20.360 whether it's the UK or it's Europe or it's or it's the US or Canada. 629 00:27:20.360 --> 00:27:23.920 And I'm curious to hear from from both of you, really. 630 00:27:23.920 --> 00:27:28.480 How could, how could they stand with the Purscuit of Church this year? 631 00:27:28.480 --> 00:27:31.480 Pray, stand with them in the West here. 632 00:27:31.480 --> 00:27:32.680 I am in the West as well. 633 00:27:32.680 --> 00:27:33.680 I am with you. 634 00:27:33.680 --> 00:27:39.240 Here we can buy a Bible, actually I buy Bible every year. 635 00:27:39.240 --> 00:27:45.840 So I can, you know, read it and mark it as you see in Middle East, they can't buy a 636 00:27:45.840 --> 00:27:46.840 Bible. 637 00:27:46.840 --> 00:27:47.840 It's not allowed. 638 00:27:47.840 --> 00:27:49.160 Like in Yemen, it's not allowed. 639 00:27:49.160 --> 00:27:50.960 So we need to stand with these people. 640 00:27:50.960 --> 00:27:52.000 We need to pray for them. 641 00:27:52.000 --> 00:27:53.920 We need to advocate for them. 642 00:27:53.920 --> 00:28:01.200 And we need to, yes, to support them because they are our brothers. 643 00:28:01.200 --> 00:28:05.000 They share the same faith when they don't share the same freedom. 644 00:28:05.000 --> 00:28:07.880 And we need to look, look brothers and sisters. 645 00:28:07.880 --> 00:28:12.000 We need us want to read the Bible to be, you know, strong in our faith because people 646 00:28:12.000 --> 00:28:16.040 in Africa, people in Middle East, they are dying for their faith. 647 00:28:16.040 --> 00:28:21.800 Actually in Yemen, recently a group of Christians was arrested and the other Christians heard 648 00:28:21.800 --> 00:28:26.720 inside of Yemen and they start to memorize verses because they said if we, if you go to 649 00:28:26.720 --> 00:28:32.720 the prison, we already memorize some of the scripture because they are expecting that 650 00:28:32.720 --> 00:28:34.600 they will be arrested. 651 00:28:34.600 --> 00:28:38.280 So here in the West, we have the Bible, this is the treasure. 652 00:28:38.280 --> 00:28:42.680 This is, we need to read the Bible, we need to be, you know, radical for the Lord Jesus 653 00:28:42.680 --> 00:28:43.680 Christ. 654 00:28:43.680 --> 00:28:51.120 So when I say radical to love the Lord as He loved us first in a radical way, I mean, praying 655 00:28:51.120 --> 00:28:52.120 is 100%. 656 00:28:53.120 --> 00:28:58.640 Like really, really important, I remember a colleague of mine who leads open doors working 657 00:28:58.640 --> 00:29:05.040 in West Africa saying, your prayers enable us to survive and give us the grace to stand. 658 00:29:05.040 --> 00:29:07.240 So that's like, wow, you know, we can do that. 659 00:29:07.240 --> 00:29:12.720 We can help them to stand strong because, you know, obviously John's, John's amazing 660 00:29:12.720 --> 00:29:16.480 and he, you know, he's got so much courage, but you kind of think actually there's some 661 00:29:16.480 --> 00:29:21.440 really desperate situations and we could probably think of somewhere Christians are incarcerated 662 00:29:21.440 --> 00:29:26.920 in prison and shipping containers in error, a trailer or, you know, in North Korea and 663 00:29:26.920 --> 00:29:29.800 actually, isn't it amazing to think that our prayers can make a difference? 664 00:29:29.800 --> 00:29:33.680 Our prayers can let them know that they're not alone. 665 00:29:33.680 --> 00:29:39.640 Miracles happen because we pray, you know, impossible faith is fueled because of us praying. 666 00:29:39.640 --> 00:29:44.000 So I'd encourage people to go and explore the World Watch List on the Open Door's website 667 00:29:44.000 --> 00:29:49.240 and discover the places where it's most dangerous in 2026 to be a Christian. 668 00:29:49.240 --> 00:29:54.840 So get informed, you know, become aware, but also get really inspired because actually 669 00:29:54.840 --> 00:29:56.840 your prayers can make a real difference. 670 00:29:56.840 --> 00:30:00.880 Like, like John said, brother Andrew, the founder of Open Door said, our prayers can go 671 00:30:00.880 --> 00:30:05.960 where we can't and that might feel like, you know, printing big stuff, but it encourages 672 00:30:05.960 --> 00:30:10.000 me to think even just a simple prayer, you know, I could maybe just list a country, God 673 00:30:10.000 --> 00:30:14.520 pray for North Korea today, God pray for Sudan today, you know, it doesn't have to be long 674 00:30:14.520 --> 00:30:16.560 eloquent prayers, but we can just pray. 675 00:30:16.560 --> 00:30:21.640 And I think, I think too, and John's touched on it as well, kind of seeing the persecuted 676 00:30:21.640 --> 00:30:24.640 church with the lens of family is huge. 677 00:30:24.640 --> 00:30:29.880 You know, 388 million Christians around the world living in the context of persecution 678 00:30:29.880 --> 00:30:30.880 is massive, isn't it? 679 00:30:30.880 --> 00:30:35.880 But actually, when you see it beyond a statistic, see it actually as a sister, a brother, 680 00:30:35.880 --> 00:30:38.520 that's one in seven Christians around the world. 681 00:30:38.520 --> 00:30:40.200 I think it does change, change that. 682 00:30:40.200 --> 00:30:45.920 And maybe there's a prayer to pray, God help me to see the church as my family, the 683 00:30:45.920 --> 00:30:48.240 global church as my family. 684 00:30:48.240 --> 00:30:52.400 And I think I think that's that could have a really profound impact on how we connect 685 00:30:52.400 --> 00:30:54.680 and how we pray for the persecuted church. 686 00:30:54.680 --> 00:30:59.880 I mean, to add something as well, for me, even I am in the West actually, before I come 687 00:30:59.880 --> 00:31:06.360 here, I have a prayer group on WhatsApp and there is over like 100 people on it from different 688 00:31:06.360 --> 00:31:07.360 churches. 689 00:31:07.360 --> 00:31:11.720 And they value my ministry, they value me as a brother in Christ. 690 00:31:11.720 --> 00:31:17.200 So before I go to speak or to travel, I send them a message and update, I'm traveling. 691 00:31:17.200 --> 00:31:18.480 Could you pray for me? 692 00:31:18.480 --> 00:31:24.960 So I feel the prayer is so powerful when the family of God, they pray for us. 693 00:31:24.960 --> 00:31:25.960 It's really important. 694 00:31:25.960 --> 00:31:32.040 It's, I think the reason I am here, because people praying for me, prayer is so powerful. 695 00:31:32.040 --> 00:31:36.200 We also can leave sight of that a lot of time, I think, that when we can be so comfortable 696 00:31:36.200 --> 00:31:41.280 or we're not in a persecuted country, in the same way at all, that we can leave sight 697 00:31:41.280 --> 00:31:42.640 of the power of prayer. 698 00:31:42.640 --> 00:31:46.640 So I'm really inspired by that and thank you for sharing that. 699 00:31:46.640 --> 00:31:52.200 And I guess also in our context of those listening, we're not in quite an extreme context. 700 00:31:52.200 --> 00:31:57.160 However, we do still have Muslims around us in our schools and universities. 701 00:31:57.160 --> 00:32:01.680 How would you recommend we best reach out to them to share Jesus? 702 00:32:01.680 --> 00:32:02.680 Any tips? 703 00:32:02.680 --> 00:32:05.360 Great question. 704 00:32:05.360 --> 00:32:08.840 The most important thing is our God is the God of love. 705 00:32:08.840 --> 00:32:12.520 Love them as they are and they don't know the truth. 706 00:32:12.520 --> 00:32:16.480 And I believe the Bible says, Jesus Christ said, you will know the truth and the truth 707 00:32:16.480 --> 00:32:18.240 will sit in them free. 708 00:32:18.240 --> 00:32:23.200 As for us, we need to share the love of Christ with them to love them as they are and to 709 00:32:23.200 --> 00:32:26.720 tell them the truth because they don't know that God is love. 710 00:32:26.720 --> 00:32:34.280 So we tell them God is love, we explain about how we are sinners and how we need the 711 00:32:34.280 --> 00:32:35.360 Savior. 712 00:32:35.360 --> 00:32:42.160 We talk with them without fear because they are human like me, they are human being. 713 00:32:42.160 --> 00:32:48.840 And it's my mission to tell them and to love them and because I want them to go to, not 714 00:32:48.840 --> 00:32:52.760 to go to destruction, I want them to go to eternal life with me. 715 00:32:52.760 --> 00:33:00.040 So as Christian or brothers in the West, I think it's a great opportunity that you have 716 00:33:00.040 --> 00:33:06.320 Muslim in this country or in Europe so you can go to them, maybe they are your friends, 717 00:33:06.320 --> 00:33:09.960 tell them about the Lord, buy them a Bible, tell them about the truth, yes. 718 00:33:09.960 --> 00:33:14.160 I love that and it's like the God is love, that is the God is love, yes. 719 00:33:14.160 --> 00:33:16.200 And they don't know that. 720 00:33:16.200 --> 00:33:17.200 They don't know that. 721 00:33:17.200 --> 00:33:22.560 For me when I was saved, I understood that God is love, this is powerful. 722 00:33:22.560 --> 00:33:24.480 So now he loved me. 723 00:33:24.480 --> 00:33:28.920 If I am the only one on earth, he will still love me and come to rescue me. 724 00:33:28.920 --> 00:33:32.600 So he is for Muslims as well, he died for them. 725 00:33:32.600 --> 00:33:36.800 So they need to know that and they need to come clean to know him as Lord and Savior, 726 00:33:36.800 --> 00:33:41.120 the one who died on the cross for them and on the third day he rose from the grave and 727 00:33:41.120 --> 00:33:45.520 he is alive and he is coming back to judge the living and the dead. 728 00:33:46.240 --> 00:33:47.240 Thank you. 729 00:33:47.240 --> 00:33:47.920 Thank you. 730 00:33:47.920 --> 00:33:48.920 False beam. 731 00:33:48.920 --> 00:33:50.720 False beam. 732 00:33:50.720 --> 00:33:55.120 And then I guess one last question before we start, shall we open the door stuff. 733 00:33:57.120 --> 00:34:01.520 Have you got any like a message, I guess, to the Western church? 734 00:34:01.520 --> 00:34:03.080 What can we be doing? 735 00:34:03.080 --> 00:34:05.000 How can we step up? 736 00:34:05.000 --> 00:34:09.280 How can we, we've mentioned prayer as a big part of that. 737 00:34:09.280 --> 00:34:12.320 But anything else to the Western church? 738 00:34:12.320 --> 00:34:18.080 I, you know, the Western church, you know, I love you in the Lord. 739 00:34:18.080 --> 00:34:22.560 We need to, we need to, you know, to read our Bible. 740 00:34:22.560 --> 00:34:29.960 We need to read the physical Bible and we need to love the Lord more public with our fear, 741 00:34:29.960 --> 00:34:35.320 not only private, the Lord, he sees in our secret place, yes, but we need to love him public 742 00:34:35.320 --> 00:34:41.680 to share him, to evangelize, to share the good news and that's the church responsibility. 743 00:34:41.680 --> 00:34:47.440 We need unity, I pray for unity, I pray for unity among the churches in the West. 744 00:34:47.440 --> 00:34:49.040 Unity is really important. 745 00:34:49.040 --> 00:34:53.880 We need to unite it so we can be an army for the Lord Jesus Christ and spiritual army, 746 00:34:53.880 --> 00:34:56.920 so we can build the kingdom of heaven here on earth. 747 00:34:56.920 --> 00:35:01.840 And the kingdom of heaven, it's like I'm obsessed about the kingdom of heaven. 748 00:35:01.840 --> 00:35:06.480 And the churches must be submit to the kingdom of heaven and the king Jesus Christ. 749 00:35:06.480 --> 00:35:11.440 So the more we submit to the kingdom of heaven and seek the kingdom of heaven first, 750 00:35:11.440 --> 00:35:16.880 we will share Jesus Christ, love him, obey him every day and put him first in everything, 751 00:35:16.880 --> 00:35:21.640 before family, before war, before job, before anything. 752 00:35:21.640 --> 00:35:27.240 But Jesus Christ first in your life, that's, that's a very simple, you can't do it. 753 00:35:27.240 --> 00:35:29.240 Yeah, good one, John. 754 00:35:29.240 --> 00:35:30.760 Good one, John. 755 00:35:30.760 --> 00:35:31.760 Anything to add, Emma. 756 00:35:31.760 --> 00:35:32.760 Nice. 757 00:35:32.760 --> 00:35:33.760 I said it all. 758 00:35:33.760 --> 00:35:34.760 Nice to you, though, isn't it? 759 00:35:34.760 --> 00:35:39.120 Everything, every day, acts of obedience, astro-fiance, isn't it? 760 00:35:39.120 --> 00:35:43.600 In the face of culture and the world that we live in and the face of, you know, as Christians, 761 00:35:43.600 --> 00:35:44.600 we believe, don't we? 762 00:35:44.600 --> 00:35:51.040 We have an enemy with Satan, so, yeah, just every day, obedience to Jesus in the small 763 00:35:51.040 --> 00:35:56.640 things, the big things, and someone like John, the pesky church, so much to teach us. 764 00:35:56.640 --> 00:35:57.640 Carry the truth. 765 00:35:57.640 --> 00:36:00.240 Carry the truth, you know, the sword, the Bible, the Word of God. 766 00:36:00.240 --> 00:36:01.240 To be right. 767 00:36:01.240 --> 00:36:02.240 To be right. 768 00:36:02.560 --> 00:36:07.120 Well, and I think it's amazing that open doors are so like partners of all of these stories. 769 00:36:07.120 --> 00:36:10.560 And please just like remind us once more, how can we engage with this world watch this? 770 00:36:10.560 --> 00:36:17.000 How can we, as listeners and as the way, how can we best support open doors and come alongside that? 771 00:36:17.000 --> 00:36:23.720 Well, you know, like I said, seeing the pesky church through the lens of family is huge. 772 00:36:23.720 --> 00:36:27.400 And I think, you know, family is bigger than biology, geography, nationality. 773 00:36:27.400 --> 00:36:29.760 That's what the Bible tells us, right? 774 00:36:29.800 --> 00:36:35.240 And so, actually, having a place, a space in your heart, in your life, your routine, 775 00:36:35.240 --> 00:36:39.080 to remember the pesky church is really, really important to the prayer list. 776 00:36:39.080 --> 00:36:40.760 Yeah, exactly, exactly. 777 00:36:40.760 --> 00:36:46.320 And so, I think the world watch list is just a really helpful tool, if you like, 778 00:36:46.320 --> 00:36:51.000 and maybe like, you know, there's 50 countries on the world watch list, you know, 779 00:36:51.000 --> 00:36:57.800 take a few, once a week, pick what else, discover a place, discover a bit more about it, 780 00:36:57.800 --> 00:37:02.160 and there's some prayer points on our website, you can go and explore the whole map. 781 00:37:02.160 --> 00:37:05.360 And if you want to keep out on that kind of thing, you can. 782 00:37:05.360 --> 00:37:07.160 I'll be honest to that. 783 00:37:07.160 --> 00:37:08.960 I'll be well into that. 784 00:37:08.960 --> 00:37:13.440 And giving that love a, so you know, Solomon, you're going to be there. 785 00:37:13.440 --> 00:37:14.280 I'll be there. 786 00:37:14.280 --> 00:37:17.320 But yeah, discover the places and then, and then start praying. 787 00:37:17.320 --> 00:37:22.200 And then, you know, a great, a great place is like, follow us on Instagram at OpenBores UK. 788 00:37:22.200 --> 00:37:25.440 We put out urgent prayer requests pretty much when they come. 789 00:37:25.440 --> 00:37:28.120 And that's the thing, you know, there is, I kind of think, when I think about the 790 00:37:28.120 --> 00:37:35.240 person you to church, it's like twin tracks of sorrow and joy and suffering and glory, 791 00:37:35.240 --> 00:37:40.680 because, you know, let's, let's be real, like hard stuff is happening every day around 792 00:37:40.680 --> 00:37:45.560 the world, whether it be in North Korea or in Nigeria, which is the kind of most brutal 793 00:37:45.560 --> 00:37:47.920 place on earth to be a Christian. 794 00:37:47.920 --> 00:37:53.040 And so we don't want to, like, sugarcoat that, well, we need to tell that story of the 795 00:37:53.040 --> 00:37:56.160 suffering and the heart cry and the lament. 796 00:37:56.160 --> 00:38:00.400 And that's what we do at OpenDoors and we're there on the ground in those places supporting 797 00:38:00.400 --> 00:38:04.360 the persecuted church to give them hope to let them know that they're not alone. 798 00:38:04.360 --> 00:38:07.680 And, and yet we hear incredible stories of Jesus at work. 799 00:38:07.680 --> 00:38:10.280 And so we, we, we, we say thank you for that, didn't we? 800 00:38:10.280 --> 00:38:13.040 And we play a part in that as well through our prayers. 801 00:38:13.040 --> 00:38:17.440 I guess to, it's, it's about not just being informed, it's not just prayer, if I can 802 00:38:17.440 --> 00:38:23.200 say that, you know, people can support the work, fundraise, speak up, advocate on behalf 803 00:38:23.200 --> 00:38:24.200 of the persecuted church. 804 00:38:24.200 --> 00:38:25.800 And all of that is so, so important. 805 00:38:25.800 --> 00:38:30.320 So we can use our voices, we can dig deep in our pockets if we've got the ability to 806 00:38:30.320 --> 00:38:34.480 do that and support this work of strengths in the church around the world. 807 00:38:34.480 --> 00:38:35.480 Yeah. 808 00:38:35.480 --> 00:38:38.280 Well, I'm sure also people listening to this podcast will be have been stirred in their 809 00:38:38.280 --> 00:38:39.280 heart. 810 00:38:39.280 --> 00:38:42.400 And there will be some people listening that I think will have a real like cool to actually 811 00:38:42.400 --> 00:38:43.920 get involved in this. 812 00:38:43.920 --> 00:38:48.520 And so how do you got ends to also look them up and, and be praying about it. 813 00:38:48.520 --> 00:38:52.360 And yeah, but thank you guys so much for joining us today. 814 00:38:52.360 --> 00:38:57.000 I feel like I feel so inspired and hopeful, I guess. 815 00:38:57.000 --> 00:39:00.440 I love that you reframing that list of actually it's a list of hope. 816 00:39:00.440 --> 00:39:06.440 And so, and real practical tools as well to, to pick a place once a week. 817 00:39:06.440 --> 00:39:07.440 Let's do that. 818 00:39:07.440 --> 00:39:09.040 So, but thank you guys so much for joining us. 819 00:39:09.040 --> 00:39:11.440 Thank you for open doors and your relationship with us. 820 00:39:12.280 --> 00:39:15.360 And for you listening, thanks for watching. 821 00:39:15.360 --> 00:39:20.080 We asked you to like, comment, subscribe all the classics, but also rate our podcast 822 00:39:20.080 --> 00:39:21.080 guys. 823 00:39:21.080 --> 00:39:22.080 Rate it. 824 00:39:22.080 --> 00:39:23.080 Hopefully five stars. 825 00:39:23.080 --> 00:39:25.360 Maybe if you don't want to do rate it five stars, it's fine. 826 00:39:25.360 --> 00:39:26.680 Is it five out of five? 827 00:39:26.680 --> 00:39:27.680 Let's hope so. 828 00:39:27.680 --> 00:39:28.680 Yeah. 829 00:39:28.680 --> 00:39:29.680 I would hope so. 830 00:39:29.680 --> 00:39:30.680 Would you rate it five out of five? 831 00:39:30.680 --> 00:39:31.680 Or with bias? 832 00:39:31.680 --> 00:39:32.680 Exactly. 833 00:39:32.680 --> 00:39:33.680 It is true. 834 00:39:33.680 --> 00:39:34.680 Rate it five out of five. 835 00:39:34.680 --> 00:39:36.680 Basically, if you rate it, then more people get to hear it and get to hear these incredible 836 00:39:36.680 --> 00:39:38.760 stories of what's going on. 837 00:39:38.760 --> 00:39:44.040 So, give it a rate, give it a comment and check out the world watch list, but I think that's 838 00:39:44.040 --> 00:39:45.040 all for me. 839 00:39:45.040 --> 00:39:46.040 Anything for me? 840 00:39:46.040 --> 00:39:47.040 You've said it all. 841 00:39:47.040 --> 00:39:48.040 John said it all the more. 842 00:39:48.040 --> 00:39:49.040 John said it all the more. 843 00:39:49.040 --> 00:39:55.040 Well, thank you so much for having me and I pray this podcast will, well, you know, 844 00:39:55.040 --> 00:39:58.880 people, young people especially will be encouraged because we love you. 845 00:39:58.880 --> 00:40:00.520 This just loves you so much. 846 00:40:00.520 --> 00:40:01.520 He does. 847 00:40:01.520 --> 00:40:02.520 He does. 848 00:40:02.520 --> 00:40:03.520 Drop it a little heart in the comments. 849 00:40:03.520 --> 00:40:04.520 We're a little prayer. 850 00:40:04.520 --> 00:40:05.520 Share. 851 00:40:05.520 --> 00:40:06.520 Share. 852 00:40:06.520 --> 00:40:07.520 Share, yeah. 853 00:40:07.520 --> 00:40:08.520 Share. 854 00:40:08.520 --> 00:40:09.520 Share. 855 00:40:09.520 --> 00:40:10.520 Yes, share. 856 00:40:10.520 --> 00:40:11.520 Share. 857 00:40:11.520 --> 00:40:12.520 All right. 858 00:40:12.520 --> 00:40:14.520 See you next time.