WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.201 --> 00:00:04.880 There's a way to tune your cloud code so you get absolute superpowers. 2 00:00:05.520 --> 00:00:09.559 Some of my smartest friends are using this tool, and it's called Last 30 Days. 3 00:00:10.040 --> 00:00:14.860 It just came out, and I had the founder, Matt Van Horn, come on the podcast to show how to use it. 4 00:00:15.440 --> 00:00:19.920 What Last 30 Days does is it uses trending data on places like Axe and Reddit 5 00:00:20.463 --> 00:00:23.420 as the starting point for your prompts on cloud code. 6 00:00:23.981 --> 00:00:27.060 The cool part is you end up getting way more out of cloud code 7 00:00:27.141 --> 00:00:29.200 because the prompts are way more dialed and optimized. 8 00:00:29.922 --> 00:00:35.460 enjoy the episode let me know if you think this is cool and i'll see you in there 9 00:00:44.133 --> 00:00:48.260 i feel like i'm in i know i'm in for a treat matt van horn is on the podcast 10 00:00:48.501 --> 00:00:55.180 and he's gonna demo something very special matt by the end of this episode what are people gonna 11 00:00:55.180 --> 00:00:55.541 to learn. 12 00:00:56.444 --> 00:00:58.791 They will have a new superpower in cloud code. 13 00:00:58.832 --> 00:01:01.059 It's called slash last 30 days. 14 00:01:01.239 --> 00:01:01.339 And 15 00:01:02.483 --> 00:01:07.740 it's going to for any topic you could possibly imagine from best prompting techniques for a 16 00:01:07.800 --> 00:01:13.980 particular tool to how should I use cloud bot to what are the greatest rap songs right now? 17 00:01:14.060 --> 00:01:18.879 It's going to search X Twitter in the web for only things that have happened in the last 30 18 00:01:19.160 --> 00:01:22.051 days and give you a great result and help you be expert. 19 00:01:22.553 --> 00:01:24.260 My smartest friends are using this right 20 00:01:24.340 --> 00:01:30.400 now so i had to ask matt to come on and showcase how to use this so thank you matt uh i say we just 21 00:01:30.460 --> 00:01:40.920 get right into it all right yolo let's uh let's go oh i can just uh dive in so we are in cloud 22 00:01:40.980 --> 00:01:48.300 code and so this is a skill for cloud code and so once you install it you just type in last 30 days 23 00:01:48.642 --> 00:01:50.960 So research any topic from the last 30 days. 24 00:01:51.660 --> 00:01:54.217 So it can be anything. 25 00:01:54.880 --> 00:01:59.339 So let's say I want, let's kick one off right here. 26 00:02:01.700 --> 00:02:06.700 Most popular rap songs. 27 00:02:07.402 --> 00:02:08.639 So let's kick that one off. 28 00:02:09.400 --> 00:02:12.520 And so, and then I'll show some ones, some pre-can ones that I've done. 29 00:02:12.640 --> 00:02:15.240 So using the last 30 day school, let's research the most popular rap songs. 30 00:02:15.280 --> 00:02:17.820 Let me research the popular rap songs from the last 30 days. 31 00:02:19.102 --> 00:02:26.460 Right here, it's Reddit, reading what Redditors are saying, X, reading the timeline, and then it's also running a web search. 32 00:02:28.583 --> 00:02:35.158 Is the reason why you created this is there's so much good data on the internet and you want to use that as the jumping off point? 33 00:02:35.399 --> 00:02:35.860 Is that why? 34 00:02:36.803 --> 00:02:43.320 The reason that I built this tool is I feel like everything is moving so quickly in AI. 35 00:02:44.521 --> 00:02:50.740 And it's nearly impossible to keep up with the conversation on X, on Reddit, on GitHub. 36 00:02:51.961 --> 00:03:05.480 And I wanted a tool that gives you superpowers to be able to just become an expert on any topic based on what's happening on Reddit X and the web very, very quickly. 37 00:03:05.823 --> 00:03:07.500 because the prompts are changing so quickly. 38 00:03:07.840 --> 00:03:08.200 What's happening? 39 00:03:08.381 --> 00:03:10.500 Like, look at, you know, Maltbot. 40 00:03:11.125 --> 00:03:11.820 What's happened there? 41 00:03:11.960 --> 00:03:13.460 It's changing so quickly. 42 00:03:14.142 --> 00:03:16.860 And so being able to just become expert at something, 43 00:03:16.940 --> 00:03:18.140 it kind of reminds me of The Matrix 44 00:03:18.322 --> 00:03:19.680 when he gets plugged in and it's like, 45 00:03:20.061 --> 00:03:21.620 I know Kung Fu, right? 46 00:03:21.740 --> 00:03:24.480 So to be able to do that for any topic very, very quickly 47 00:03:25.104 --> 00:03:27.160 is why I built this. 48 00:03:27.402 --> 00:03:28.820 And honestly, so I could use it for myself. 49 00:03:29.461 --> 00:03:32.820 Looks like our wrap research. 50 00:03:33.000 --> 00:03:37.800 So I found one Reddit thread, 19 expos, and the most popular rap songs right now. 51 00:03:39.381 --> 00:03:50.919 So it kind of dug in and into hip hop heads, some expos, billboard data, some Spotify data, hip hop heads, hip hop all day, rap complex, and created this reply. 52 00:03:52.760 --> 00:03:58.260 So someone in the comment section is going to be like, well, I could have used perplexity or chat GPT to do that. 53 00:03:58.360 --> 00:03:59.338 Why should I use this? 54 00:04:00.623 --> 00:04:07.000 yeah so you absolutely could but it's uh and again i'm i'm not fully up to date on which 55 00:04:07.421 --> 00:04:14.160 which tools have what access but to set up last 30 days so you need cloud code right so you're 56 00:04:14.160 --> 00:04:20.300 already paying for cloud code right so you need that account you need a open ai key because open 57 00:04:20.340 --> 00:04:27.040 ai has a deal with reddit that gives you that reddit access uh i'm actually looking into reddit 58 00:04:27.080 --> 00:04:30.351 API keys if that's an option to make the product better. 59 00:04:30.371 --> 00:04:32.980 That's one of the things, my weekend 60 00:04:33.080 --> 00:04:33.541 projects. 61 00:04:34.103 --> 00:04:39.377 And then the third is you can't search X using your X account. 62 00:04:39.457 --> 00:04:40.700 You have to use an XAI 63 00:04:41.041 --> 00:04:41.282 key. 64 00:04:41.703 --> 00:04:47.240 And so last 30 days pulls in all these API keys and pulls it all together, if that makes 65 00:04:47.280 --> 00:04:47.521 sense. 66 00:04:48.503 --> 00:04:52.493 So this is one that I did right before we started. 67 00:04:52.854 --> 00:04:55.120 So I said, last 30 days, highest 68 00:04:55.240 --> 00:05:00.980 performing cold email frameworks for icp output three email variance subject line 69 00:05:02.724 --> 00:05:10.120 so it went on x went on twitter found reddit threads x posts web pages and what's interesting 70 00:05:10.220 --> 00:05:15.860 how i use this tool is i often don't even read what it says like sure it's interesting to see 71 00:05:15.900 --> 00:05:20.200 what it learned but mostly i just wanted to write a good email so i said can you write me some cold 72 00:05:20.280 --> 00:05:25.540 emails for getting on greg eisenberg's podcast uh sorry i spelled your name wrong good target 73 00:05:25.782 --> 00:05:28.740 startup ideas later is all about unconventional startup is community building and found unique 74 00:05:28.840 --> 00:05:33.080 relevance you know what's your angle what's your credibility signal any connection points to greg 75 00:05:33.240 --> 00:05:39.320 mutual follows what timely uh talk about ai tools i'm working on and i once made a smart oven 76 00:05:39.320 --> 00:05:44.980 uh smart oven details gold unexpected founders who shipped hardware and software that's your 77 00:05:45.000 --> 00:05:50.560 hook here are three email variants subject smart oven ai tools not the path of the great going for 78 00:05:50.600 --> 00:05:55.140 building smart oven to building a tools that might sound weird until you hear it turns out the hardest 79 00:05:55.160 --> 00:05:58.379 part of hardware time exactly what's broken how people interact with a i'm building the fix 80 00:05:59.643 --> 00:06:05.580 katrina what does smart oven tell me about ai so anyway i literally did nothing here i barely gave 81 00:06:05.640 --> 00:06:13.540 it any context and it had become expert in different cold emailing concepts the three p's 82 00:06:13.580 --> 00:06:18.400 framework praise picture push ada attention i've never read any of these in my life intention-based 83 00:06:18.821 --> 00:06:24.040 data trigger framework and then it just did it for me if that makes sense without even me having 84 00:06:24.160 --> 00:06:31.139 to read the research yeah i think what's really cool about this is these frameworks i mean ada 85 00:06:31.580 --> 00:06:37.160 has been around for forever like you know og david ogilvy days but other than you know the other ones 86 00:06:37.240 --> 00:06:43.860 like it feels like those are timely frameworks like these emails like i'm reading these emails 87 00:06:43.960 --> 00:06:48.560 in there i get a lot of cold email and these are actually ones that would break through the noise 88 00:06:48.680 --> 00:06:54.020 so that's what's really cool about this and i didn't give it much effort i literally said i'm 89 00:06:54.020 --> 00:07:02.240 a former smart oven entrepreneur you couldn't have given it like less context and it did okay 90 00:07:03.986 --> 00:07:08.160 and then another one i just tried last 30 days how to get x followers our research people are 91 00:07:08.200 --> 00:07:16.140 actually saying um and what i learned replies the number one growth strategy multiple x power users 92 00:07:16.641 --> 00:07:22.820 all credit becoming a reply guy as the fastest path to growth shows 30 80 thoughtful replies 93 00:07:22.860 --> 00:07:27.140 daily engagement 40 was before posting find larger accounts reply first consistently post 94 00:07:27.160 --> 00:07:34.580 at least one x a day five days a week uh reddit threads x threads instagram marketing facebook ads 95 00:07:35.343 --> 00:07:40.140 and share your vision what's your account and what's up with followers uh i'm i'm van horn 96 00:07:40.581 --> 00:07:45.880 and i made an ai tool for claude code i don't know what's gonna do now 97 00:07:48.105 --> 00:07:54.720 that's the exciting part one one other let's spin off another last 30 days window sorry for 98 00:07:55.522 --> 00:08:03.260 all the all the windows so all right so last 30 days of research 99 00:08:05.442 --> 00:08:20.340 clod clod bot so i can build an enterprise competitor to make money and not give it away 100 00:08:20.461 --> 00:08:23.560 for free maybe i'm giving too much context but i should have just said research club 101 00:08:23.680 --> 00:08:30.100 um actually i'm going to do that i mean what do you recommend when you're you know is it shorter 102 00:08:30.220 --> 00:08:35.180 prompts medium prompts long prompts like how getting the most out of i think it's a it's kind 103 00:08:35.200 --> 00:08:43.540 of you prime the engine by first doing just research cloud bot top use cases so what my 104 00:08:43.841 --> 00:08:47.900 vision for this thread of what we're going to do is it's going to learn about cloud bot right 105 00:08:48.622 --> 00:08:53.880 check x check reddit and then what i'm going to do is actually load one of my favorite tools 106 00:08:54.000 --> 00:09:00.460 compound engineering uh shout out to kevin rose for introducing me to it and compound engineering 107 00:09:00.621 --> 00:09:06.680 is when i'm starting a new project is where i do my planning and so what i want to do here 108 00:09:07.562 --> 00:09:15.320 is take this research on from last 30 days from clodbot and use that as the starting point 109 00:09:15.942 --> 00:09:20.140 to kick off a enterprise version of Cloudbot 110 00:09:21.029 --> 00:09:22.000 and to build it. 111 00:09:22.561 --> 00:09:24.699 So let's let this run, 112 00:09:24.981 --> 00:09:26.440 see how our other stuff is going. 113 00:09:27.061 --> 00:09:27.378 All right. 114 00:09:27.761 --> 00:09:29.380 I'm in AI tool for Cloud Code. 115 00:09:29.822 --> 00:09:30.540 AI tools are hot right now. 116 00:09:30.580 --> 00:09:31.739 Here's a growth playbook for you. 117 00:09:32.621 --> 00:09:34.140 Morning, 40 minutes for your first post. 118 00:09:34.200 --> 00:09:36.940 Reply to 10 from Anthropic, Alex Albert, Birch Labs, 119 00:09:37.280 --> 00:09:39.260 Cloud Power Users, add genuine value, share a tip, 120 00:09:39.360 --> 00:09:41.980 ask a smart question, content type, tool demo, 121 00:09:42.160 --> 00:09:44.240 build X today, what it does, Cloud Code tip, 122 00:09:44.360 --> 00:09:45.238 five things I learned X, 123 00:09:45.762 --> 00:09:49.020 build in public ship by the way i i'm not going to do this i think this was just 124 00:09:49.863 --> 00:09:54.580 i actually asked chat gpt for suggestions of what i should demo on your show and it gave me this one 125 00:09:55.061 --> 00:10:00.980 but quickest wins pin your best demo tweet show the tool in action bioformula i build tool one 126 00:10:01.421 --> 00:10:08.800 shipping a tools for cloud code that's not bad no it's it's not bad so all right let's close this 127 00:10:08.920 --> 00:10:13.760 one out all right we got cloud code best use overnight coding agent management daily briefings 128 00:10:13.820 --> 00:10:18.100 of morning do you want to dive deeper okay so now i'm going to call in another tool let's 129 00:10:18.701 --> 00:10:30.300 throw in workflows plan take the context above about claude bot and propose an enterprise 130 00:10:31.703 --> 00:10:40.480 version that could make a lot of money just do that keep it simple yeah i mean this is this is 131 00:10:40.580 --> 00:10:46.760 interesting right like you know you're taking a trend open source trend and you're like okay how 132 00:10:46.860 --> 00:10:53.720 can i build a product that you know gets me paid and it's interesting because there's so many trends 133 00:10:53.780 --> 00:10:59.220 that are happening right now on x as like a data source and reddit as a data source that you know 134 00:11:01.026 --> 00:11:04.498 if this if this is actually good it's going to help give you ideas and and sort of 135 00:11:05.161 --> 00:11:11.139 eventually a prd right yep anyway so it's still making our plan it's researching still 136 00:11:11.942 --> 00:11:18.700 doing an analysis so we'll we'll see where that adds up but anyway do you want to try a last 30 137 00:11:18.900 --> 00:11:24.500 day prompt yeah i mean i'm curious like i mean you you're seeing all the all these prompts so 138 00:11:24.580 --> 00:11:28.380 like the people that listen to this show these are people these are founders solopreneurs 139 00:11:29.063 --> 00:11:33.180 people building businesses um they're always looking for unfair advantages 140 00:11:33.180 --> 00:11:35.649 what sort of prompt would you suggest 141 00:11:39.624 --> 00:11:42.079 that type of person, someone who wants to build a business 142 00:11:44.350 --> 00:11:46.280 is it competitive research 143 00:11:49.393 --> 00:11:51.060 what are some ideas you have? 144 00:11:53.349 --> 00:11:53.860 Good question 145 00:11:55.549 --> 00:11:57.440 I think it's very good for competitive research 146 00:11:57.561 --> 00:12:01.680 I think it's very good for looking at hot topics 147 00:12:03.223 --> 00:12:11.700 I think we could probably do something like, let's try it for your web design idea. 148 00:12:12.081 --> 00:12:14.299 You kind of described poke.com, which I missed. 149 00:12:15.740 --> 00:12:22.960 So what web page designs are getting the most love right now? 150 00:12:23.800 --> 00:12:24.940 Yeah, because that's interesting. 151 00:12:25.081 --> 00:12:29.740 because knowing the trend is just so important. 152 00:12:31.161 --> 00:12:34.760 And it also helps give, 153 00:12:36.325 --> 00:12:38.200 when I'm designing something, it helps give me ideas. 154 00:12:38.902 --> 00:12:41.880 It's so overwhelming sometimes when you have a blank page 155 00:12:41.960 --> 00:12:42.900 and you don't know where to start. 156 00:12:43.700 --> 00:12:45.118 Yep, totally. 157 00:12:46.781 --> 00:12:51.660 And the thing that inspired this tool 158 00:12:51.740 --> 00:12:57.380 was I used to, before I would jump into any type of vibe coding session, 159 00:12:57.761 --> 00:13:03.700 I would go on ChatGPT 5.2 and I would just say in thinking mode 160 00:13:04.242 --> 00:13:08.560 and be like, go, this was for design, 161 00:13:08.800 --> 00:13:11.760 I would say, go on Reddit and research Nano Banana Pro 162 00:13:11.941 --> 00:13:15.460 best prompting techniques. 163 00:13:16.383 --> 00:13:17.640 And I would do that at the beginning 164 00:13:18.145 --> 00:13:19.640 and then I wouldn't even read what it would say 165 00:13:19.801 --> 00:13:21.520 and then I would just be like, okay, give me a prompt. 166 00:13:22.081 --> 00:13:33.520 And so it's kind of this like hack of learning Kung Fu, learning the prompts that everyone's using without actually needing to read about it, if that makes sense. 167 00:13:33.760 --> 00:13:44.020 You kind of just like, OK, let's just trust the mind crowd, the world that's out there and use those best practices. 168 00:13:44.981 --> 00:13:45.226 All right. 169 00:13:45.246 --> 00:13:45.919 We've got a plan. 170 00:13:46.980 --> 00:13:49.694 Let's I guess let's open the plan in BBEdit. 171 00:13:52.404 --> 00:13:55.200 So this is the plan for the audio listeners. 172 00:13:55.480 --> 00:13:57.391 So this is the plan for the Moldbot 173 00:13:59.385 --> 00:14:01.000 enterprise commercial SaaS platform. 174 00:14:02.301 --> 00:14:03.540 So again, this is not a business plan. 175 00:14:03.620 --> 00:14:07.136 This is actually a plan to how to build 176 00:14:08.142 --> 00:14:09.339 the software architecture. 177 00:14:10.060 --> 00:14:12.060 And I could just then tell compound engineering 178 00:14:12.263 --> 00:14:13.119 to just go build it. 179 00:14:13.960 --> 00:14:16.660 So transform Moldbot into an open source 180 00:14:17.104 --> 00:14:18.940 into a multi-tenant enterprise SaaS platform 181 00:14:19.081 --> 00:14:21.220 called Moldbot Enterprise or Cloud Cloud. 182 00:14:21.281 --> 00:14:22.779 This capitalizes on the viral growth. 183 00:14:23.440 --> 00:14:25.600 GitHub stars, B2B adoption, 184 00:14:25.760 --> 00:14:28.360 enterprise AI assistance, R30, blah, blah, blah. 185 00:14:29.081 --> 00:14:30.620 Why enterprise can't use Maltbot today. 186 00:14:31.040 --> 00:14:33.880 No multitasking, no RBA security vulnerabilities, 187 00:14:34.000 --> 00:14:34.840 no audit logging. 188 00:14:36.803 --> 00:14:39.120 Movevice required by ServiceNow for market validation. 189 00:14:39.400 --> 00:14:42.160 Proposed solution of fully managed enterprise-grade 190 00:14:42.281 --> 00:14:44.420 Maltbot commercial. 191 00:14:45.106 --> 00:14:45.940 I really don't like the name. 192 00:14:46.180 --> 00:14:47.138 Cloud Cloud, come on. 193 00:14:48.582 --> 00:14:49.560 Come on, LLM. 194 00:14:50.282 --> 00:14:56.280 cloud architecture slack webhook discord gateway team hooks message reader core technical components 195 00:14:57.162 --> 00:15:04.420 and so kind of it used last 30 days as the basis for its expertise to learn about molt bot and then 196 00:15:05.482 --> 00:15:12.360 it did the rest and now i could just say okay build it so dude that's crazy it also 197 00:15:12.541 --> 00:15:16.960 that that was a pretty that was pretty dialed like that was pretty dialed 198 00:15:17.982 --> 00:15:27.560 and again like i'm impressed and llms do nothing about clodbot because it didn't exist before 199 00:15:28.903 --> 00:15:36.000 it's still very very recently uh all right phase one only build a multi-tenant foundation post 200 00:15:37.543 --> 00:15:46.740 full mvp uh i guess let's uh let's build a proof of concept so so basically you know it asked if 201 00:15:46.780 --> 00:15:50.320 you wanted to do an mvp it asked if you want to do a bigger build is that is that what i saw 202 00:15:50.621 --> 00:15:57.079 yeah exactly and so i just said okay let's just do the the demo yeah type something else 203 00:15:58.243 --> 00:16:04.040 new repo also can you please give it a better name greg you're you're you live in this world 204 00:16:04.080 --> 00:16:12.700 what should we call this thing i mean why not i actually don't hate uh claude cloud it just well 205 00:16:12.901 --> 00:16:15.180 Well, they got in trouble for using Claude. 206 00:16:15.283 --> 00:16:15.620 Exactly. 207 00:16:16.301 --> 00:16:17.740 So why not just call him Malt Cloud? 208 00:16:18.924 --> 00:16:19.979 But then we're going to get in trouble with Malt. 209 00:16:21.500 --> 00:16:21.689 Malt? 210 00:16:22.503 --> 00:16:23.715 Okay, so why don't we call it... 211 00:16:24.303 --> 00:16:24.900 Should we go Lobster? 212 00:16:29.146 --> 00:16:31.360 I was going to say, why don't we call it Red Lobster? 213 00:16:32.581 --> 00:16:33.899 But I think that name is already frigging. 214 00:16:34.601 --> 00:16:36.860 All right, let's go with Leet Speak. 215 00:16:38.184 --> 00:16:39.160 Let's go with Red Lobster. 216 00:16:40.205 --> 00:16:40.680 That's cool. 217 00:16:41.406 --> 00:16:43.000 this describes a 40 week product 218 00:16:43.303 --> 00:16:44.979 survey is what scope do you want to do 219 00:16:45.120 --> 00:16:46.680 I don't know just 220 00:16:46.761 --> 00:16:47.509 do it just do it 221 00:16:49.090 --> 00:16:49.678 so many questions 222 00:16:49.820 --> 00:16:50.548 all right 223 00:16:52.163 --> 00:16:54.960 what do we ask here what web designs are getting the 224 00:16:54.980 --> 00:16:55.670 most love right now 225 00:16:56.561 --> 00:16:58.820 the most love Shopify 226 00:16:58.981 --> 00:17:00.800 winter edition yes I remember I saw that one 227 00:17:00.961 --> 00:17:03.000 that was really awesome that was 228 00:17:03.284 --> 00:17:04.319 beautiful look 229 00:17:05.126 --> 00:17:05.651 3,000 likes 320 230 00:17:06.962 --> 00:17:08.880 retweets the YC landing page so 231 00:17:08.880 --> 00:17:12.540 what's funny is i saw this i didn't actually look at it yet but i saw that it was getting love and 232 00:17:12.580 --> 00:17:20.220 hype praise for scrappy humble beginning shop web landing all word like jewelry craftworks design 233 00:17:21.584 --> 00:17:26.240 all ages reported back reddit and finding topic to visual for text discussions but found 234 00:17:26.260 --> 00:17:30.760 uh what tool do you want to use to create design so it's like okay now that i've researched these 235 00:17:30.840 --> 00:17:37.680 things uh what do you what do you want to design in all right um so it's kind of it's kind of 236 00:17:37.840 --> 00:17:43.080 pushing you to be like okay i've now learned this expertise now let's do something with it 237 00:17:44.443 --> 00:17:48.440 so this could literally pump out a figma design is that possible 238 00:17:50.206 --> 00:17:54.519 uh i haven't spent enough time in figma in an in the ai era all my figma time was pre-ai 239 00:17:55.563 --> 00:18:00.980 so i don't know what like prompting figma even means in 2026 but uh i don't know i could just 240 00:18:01.000 --> 00:18:07.820 say one and see what happens now what are you designing all right now it's it's diving in 241 00:18:09.202 --> 00:18:18.200 a portfolio landing page for productivity app is fine one of the suggestions 242 00:18:20.106 --> 00:18:24.600 this is what are you designing a sass landing page a portfolio side e-commerce homepage for 243 00:18:24.620 --> 00:18:31.960 skincare brand agency website hero and then so i keep coming back to this but it's it is impressive 244 00:18:32.241 --> 00:18:36.160 how little you're giving like how short your prompts are 245 00:18:38.688 --> 00:18:41.240 here we go here's a prompt for figma apparently that's the thing 246 00:18:42.825 --> 00:18:47.120 2026 forward trend design anybody that feels warm and human not cold sasta but layout anti-grid 247 00:18:47.301 --> 00:18:51.860 composition hero section use asymmetrical balance headline left product screenshots floating right 248 00:18:52.041 --> 00:18:58.340 angle sections will flow organic with varied spacing not rigid 12 column uniformity typography 249 00:18:58.561 --> 00:19:03.940 one oversized display headline paired with small body text add a single hand-drawn underline or 250 00:19:04.020 --> 00:19:09.900 circle accent on the keyword consider variable font like satoshi or general sans nature distilled 251 00:19:09.980 --> 00:19:15.360 warm cream background charcoal text one muted accent avoid harsh pure white or saturated blues 252 00:19:16.002 --> 00:19:22.459 glass morphism element feature card i want to see this it's too bad i don't have figma ai set up 253 00:19:24.123 --> 00:19:32.160 but um so that's pretty cool let's see if it can do this for like a nano banana prompt like hey 254 00:19:32.541 --> 00:19:40.418 you know i wonder if we can do that can you make this a nano banana pro prompt yep but i'm an expert 255 00:19:41.421 --> 00:19:49.080 a nano banana i didn't ask it to become a nano banana prompt expert so who knows what's going 256 00:19:49.080 --> 00:19:57.740 to happen yeah back to telegram and let's see what happens we should get three images 257 00:19:59.625 --> 00:20:05.300 your malt bot is typing that's a cool feeling like watching your malt bot type 258 00:20:07.548 --> 00:20:11.000 someone needs to visualize that with like a lobster on a keyboard 259 00:20:17.069 --> 00:20:24.800 why did you choose telegram over iMessage or discord or something else because my lm told me 260 00:20:24.880 --> 00:20:31.160 to uh because i'm i'm on a four dollar a month shell account uh for my i don't have the mac 261 00:20:31.501 --> 00:20:40.820 mac mini setup and so um the um you can't use imessage or whatsapp i believe when you're just 262 00:20:40.900 --> 00:20:48.020 on a shell i think you need to run some sort of mac software and so telegram seems to be the default 263 00:20:48.442 --> 00:20:52.159 where you when you don't have that and for people who don't know what a shell account is 264 00:20:52.481 --> 00:20:57.119 can you just expand on that yeah sorry uh by the way this is our 265 00:20:58.644 --> 00:21:02.880 clodbot competitor that it's building i don't know what is going on or what it's building 266 00:21:05.610 --> 00:21:08.080 it's adding a demo script showing tenant isolation then 267 00:21:08.582 --> 00:21:11.979 oh it already set up typescript and node.js that's nice wow that's cool 268 00:21:14.465 --> 00:21:22.400 here we go oh yeah not bad it better be nicer in figma yeah that was pretty solid and again 269 00:21:22.480 --> 00:21:24.536 And that was by using slash last 30 days. 270 00:21:25.460 --> 00:21:28.660 What are the hottest web page designs that the world is excited about right now? 271 00:21:28.680 --> 00:21:29.600 Like what's trendy? 272 00:21:30.482 --> 00:21:34.180 And then, okay, now use that for my SaaS productivity app. 273 00:21:35.141 --> 00:21:36.880 I like how it like circled random words. 274 00:21:37.080 --> 00:21:39.120 Flow, effortlessly, more. 275 00:21:39.760 --> 00:21:40.200 That's awesome. 276 00:21:40.420 --> 00:21:42.180 Yeah, like it feels like hand-drawn. 277 00:21:43.668 --> 00:21:44.620 It's pretty wild. 278 00:21:45.366 --> 00:21:46.079 It's wild times. 279 00:21:46.401 --> 00:21:51.500 It's the rate at what we're able to build things and how fast things change. 280 00:21:52.487 --> 00:21:54.000 is absolutely wild. 281 00:21:55.100 --> 00:21:56.999 So Matt, this has been fun. 282 00:21:58.801 --> 00:22:00.220 If people want to get started, 283 00:22:02.312 --> 00:22:03.419 what advice do you have 284 00:22:04.585 --> 00:22:08.060 in terms of getting the most out of this product? 285 00:22:09.080 --> 00:22:10.379 Yeah, so one of the things I'll say is 286 00:22:10.662 --> 00:22:12.780 I am not a software engineer. 287 00:22:13.182 --> 00:22:16.680 I have not shipped anything of value since high school. 288 00:22:17.021 --> 00:22:18.980 I could argue the webpages I was shipping in high school 289 00:22:19.082 --> 00:22:20.080 were not of value either, 290 00:22:20.241 --> 00:22:24.920 but at least I could write some basic HTML or some basic scripts. 291 00:22:26.140 --> 00:22:34.620 And so what's amazing is being not a software engineer 292 00:22:34.761 --> 00:22:37.019 and being able to go into cloud code. 293 00:22:37.520 --> 00:22:38.520 Like it seems intimidating. 294 00:22:39.522 --> 00:22:43.620 You're in the terminal, setting up a cloud bot seems intimidating. 295 00:22:44.281 --> 00:22:49.420 And my recommendation for starting out is set up cloud code. 296 00:22:49.921 --> 00:22:56.780 it's magical sign up for the $20 account if you'll be on the $100 and the $200 account probably real 297 00:22:56.860 --> 00:23:07.160 soon if you're uh if you're successful um and and what i what i do is i um have keep a chat gpt 298 00:23:07.321 --> 00:23:12.480 window open to ask questions to and so i'm kind of moving back and forth and posting lots of 299 00:23:12.520 --> 00:23:17.840 screenshots be like there's some error i don't know what's going on help me and so chat gpt 300 00:23:18.021 --> 00:23:22.600 5.2 thinking will be like okay great in your in your shell in your terminal this is what's going 301 00:23:22.720 --> 00:23:27.800 on this is why it broke and i'm like okay great what do i do help and then it's just like copy 302 00:23:27.840 --> 00:23:31.600 this into the terminal i'm like okay and i again don't even have to read it don't have to overthink 303 00:23:31.700 --> 00:23:37.580 it and so kind of just like screenshot trial and error back and forth between chat gpt and my 304 00:23:37.680 --> 00:23:41.640 terminal and like i couldn't figure out actually how to post screenshots into my terminal so i asked 305 00:23:41.640 --> 00:23:47.540 chat gpt and it's like oh you have to use control v instead of command v and once that that was 306 00:23:47.861 --> 00:23:52.960 the biggest unlock for me in the terminal figuring out that i could post screenshots with control v 307 00:23:53.782 --> 00:24:01.340 and anyway so i recommend getting into cloud code and and try last 30 days obviously uh because it 308 00:24:01.621 --> 00:24:08.620 gives you superpowers but use tools like compound engineering use skills like uh there's another one 309 00:24:08.640 --> 00:24:13.760 called superpowers which is getting a lot of love right now and you just kind of enter these plan 310 00:24:13.860 --> 00:24:21.900 modes and you try and you build things and i had this idea for last 30 days and i've never looked 311 00:24:21.940 --> 00:24:28.020 at the code for the skill that i wrote quote unquote and it was just a lot of trial and error 312 00:24:28.020 --> 00:24:32.040 and running more and more terminal windows and testing it and testing it and being like hey 313 00:24:32.181 --> 00:24:36.060 figure out how to get access to this api hey figure out how i could do this hey how can my users do 314 00:24:36.100 --> 00:24:43.420 this and going from there i love that man we'll include a link to last 30 days in the show notes 315 00:24:43.440 --> 00:24:48.100 It's in the description, link where you can follow Matt Van Horn on X. 316 00:24:49.901 --> 00:24:55.140 Dude, this is really cool and it's crazy that this is just sort of like a project that you started 317 00:24:55.928 --> 00:24:57.200 and it's gaining so much traction. 318 00:24:58.240 --> 00:25:03.094 I think people are just obsessed with Cloud Code for good reason, 319 00:25:06.263 --> 00:25:08.120 but I think people are just trying to get the most out of it. 320 00:25:08.160 --> 00:25:11.040 So this came at a very perfect time 321 00:25:11.645 --> 00:25:13.500 and I can't wait to see how it evolves. 322 00:25:13.780 --> 00:25:15.400 Thanks for doing a little show and tell for us. 323 00:25:16.220 --> 00:25:17.200 Of course, it was fun being here. 324 00:25:17.340 --> 00:25:18.000 Thank you so much, Craig. 325 00:25:18.482 --> 00:25:19.260 I appreciate it, Matt. 326 00:25:19.562 --> 00:25:20.140 Until next time.