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What is Up, Way, Fam?

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Whoa!

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I'm so excited for another podcast today.

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Today I'm joined with the human sound board,

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Izzy Madaván, Airhorn, Airhorn.

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Err, hahahaha!

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Explosion!

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Boom!

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Why have you done that?

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I just wanted to make it feel like OG YouTube, you know what I mean?

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Okay.

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People who really know me well know that I used to vlog

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and I used to do super hype intros.

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Should we get you on the vlogs?

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We have vlogs.

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We have vlogs?

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Go check out the latest vlog.

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On our channel.

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It's not such.

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It's not sadly.

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But yeah, you used to do like super hype intros.

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It was kind of like a David Dobrik vibe, if you know what I mean.

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Name dropping.

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Name dropping.

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Anyways.

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We're so glad that you've decided to join us on this podcast.

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On this couch.

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And electrifying noise.

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Please don't do this stuff.

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Please don't do this thing.

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Okay, thanks.

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What we're doing today.

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We are looking at first Thessalonians chapter three.

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Does that mean we've already done one and two?

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That does.

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Huge.

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How could I find that on cast?

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On the YouTube.

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YouTube.

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That's right.

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Spotify.

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YouTube.

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Anywhere you get your podcast.

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Any streaming past.

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Listen to first Thessalonians chapter one and chapter two.

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We're both in chapter one.

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It's pretty good.

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It's pretty good.

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But please, hey, we're open to chapter three.

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I'm going to read from the ESV.

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You're going to read from the NIV.

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Comment what version you read from.

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And let's roll the credits intro.

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Credits.

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I'll just natural to say.

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Roll the credits.

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I will just let my name.

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One intro this is.

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Bye.

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Hello, I'm just interrupting the podcast.

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I say, thanks for listening and I hope you're enjoying.

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And you doing that really helps make that possible.

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But let's get back to the episode.

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Okay, so we're going to start at chapter three, verse one.

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But a little bit of backstory.

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Paul's in chapter one and two, just really encouraging the church in a city called Thessalonica.

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Huge.

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Well, not that huge.

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100,000 people, which would have been big at the time.

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But you really found that funny.

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No, because that's not what, okay, fine.

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I know that's not what you.

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Yeah, okay.

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Sorry, I'll get the same.

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But they're being heavily persecuted.

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Lots of people in the church are dying because they profess faith to Jesus.

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And so Paul starts in these first three chapters by just encouraging them.

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That's all he wants to do.

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Yeah, you could say he's dropping a lot of glaze.

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That's what I said to Izzy earlier.

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And verse 17 until of chapter two, until chapter three, verse 10, he's just

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continuing to encourage them by giving reasons why he didn't go and visit the church

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again and why he sent Timothy instead.

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And then he just encourages them like, oh, Timothy's a worker with God and all that.

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But we'll see.

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But it's important to understand that it continues on from chapter two.

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So definitely going to wash chapter two if you haven't.

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And I'm going to read chapter three, verse one to five.

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We'll just start with that.

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Okay, here we go.

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Follow along with me.

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Therefore, when we could bear it no longer, we were willing to be left behind at Athens alone.

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And we sent Timothy, our brother, and God's coworker in the gospel of Christ,

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to establish and exhort you in your faith that no one be moved by these afflictions.

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For you yourselves know that we are destined for this.

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For when we were with you, we kept telling you beforehand that we were to suffer affliction

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just as it come to pass.

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And just as you know, for this reason when I could bear it no longer,

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I sent to learn about your faith for fear that somehow the tempter had tempted you

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and our labor would be in vain.

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So again, just to recap, Paul is now in Athens.

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And when he was in Athens, he heard that they needed encouragement, so I sent him.

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Timothy's now come back.

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They've reconvened and he's writing this letter.

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Anything stand out to you?

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I have so many notes.

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I feel like I always...

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You do. Have you ever showed your Bible on...

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Probably his first age.

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This is two different disciples of Christ right here.

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The writing in my Bible is not my portion.

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I like it nice and clean, just read it.

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Mine is cleanly first take for the post-it notes.

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Fair.

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Anyway.

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You know what?

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I did this alongside a commentary which I find really helpful, especially when it's sometimes letters

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or books like these where you can't, it can just like read and run past a lot of stuff.

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And the commentaries I find are quite helpful is to pick out some words and draw attention to certain things.

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And so that's what I'm going to pick out some stuff.

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So let's start the beginning of verse 1 and 2, 2 and 1.

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Basically it's first of all, it struck me that Paul is encouraging the Thessalonians,

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or the church of Thessalonica.

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And he also did that through action.

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He sent Timothy and that actually was a loss for him.

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So he's losing something to be able to encourage them.

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And so I think that's also beautiful of Paul's very sincere love for these people is that he is sending Timothy.

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And then he describes Timothy as a coworker or minister in some translations in verse 2.

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And this original word is linked to like the service of a table waiter.

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And it's basically signifies like quite like lowly service of any kind.

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And so the word cannot draw attention to the acts of service.

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And so this word we get of like minister and stuff like that.

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It's very...

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But it points to Jesus, he's the servant king.

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He comes very humbly, comes to serve.

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And again he uses the same kind of vibe of coworker as Timothy.

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He wasn't coming with authority to rule, but he came to serve.

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And to strengthen and establish and encourage a kind of words that are also written of his purpose while he was coming.

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And it's kind of like you can only encourage people once they're established in the right direction.

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So it's kind of that's also part of like Timothy's purpose is actually making sure they're established or going in the correct direction and encouraging them with that.

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So it was very like practical.

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And it wasn't just encouragement like well done traps you're doing well.

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It was a whatever they say in like Greek times.

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Probably not that.

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But like active encouragement of actually coming alongside them like encouraging them like giving them courage, I guess.

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Of that meaning of encouragement of to keep going on with what they're doing and being in the right course.

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I think it's interesting because like you're saying he set them on the right path.

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But also like.

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I noticed, where does it say?

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For you yourselves know that we are destined for this.

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Yeah.

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And it talks about how he like warned them that things weren't going to be just all easy going.

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Yeah.

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I think that's so interesting because as as someone who is like I'm a part time eith pastor and and you help out also in in our youth group shout out.

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How much easier is it to to like tell people who aren't yet believers that it's just all going to be great.

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And like faith is going to be awesome like you're you're going to have peace.

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You're going to have love.

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You're going to have joy and self control and all these things which is true.

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But it's interesting that Paul we chat about this in in chapter one.

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He wasn't there for long.

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Like it says anywhere from a few weeks to like a month or two.

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And in what he shared he must have had limited time to share things.

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And in what he shares is that they're going to be persecuted that it's going to be bad.

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And I'm like what does that say like I think that's a total total honesty and handing over the gospel.

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And what would it look like for us to actually in our evangelism tell others.

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Like it's not going to be all sunshine and rainbows.

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God doesn't just kind of wipe everything away immediately.

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It's a journey and it's I don't have found it quite difficult at times.

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Of course, but I also think that's really important to like express and communicate because otherwise when difficulties come our way.

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Like if we're expecting orders to be super easy our faith can be shaken really easily.

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But if we actually know the truth that like there will be suffering.

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There will be difficulties.

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Then we go actually Jesus spoke about this.

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I know the truth in that.

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And I can be encouraged that my faith is okay.

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Because also Jesus really suffered.

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And so it was actually.

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If Jesus is going to suffer, then of course we're going to as well.

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Like it was good enough for him to be like to face difficulties and to be stretched and growing that way.

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Then more for us. But I think it's really important as you're saying to know that truth.

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Otherwise, it can be so easy just to be like, Oh, no, this is what it.

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This is what it like.

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This is what it's like. It's all sunshine and rainbows, which Jesus really does bring so much joy.

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But also a lot of hope.

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And it's almost like through the difficulties, the hope that Jesus brings.

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This is a big theme. It's in Thessalonians a lot of hope.

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Is that he brings us hope so we can live in that truth, not the truth of the difficulties that will still come.

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Question, question on that though.

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Because sometimes I read about the the New Testament church.

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And I see that they were so controversial and so hated.

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And like we see here, Paul expects them to be persecuted.

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And obviously Jesus went through many afflictions.

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And then I look at the church that we're a part of here in the modern west.

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And we largely don't really see any of that physical affliction for our faith.

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I mean, I feel like in the day to day, I do not get treated any differently because I'm a Christian.

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Do you think that's an issue? Do you think we're not living as controversially as we should be?

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I know, sorry, that's a, that's a big question.

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I think first of all, we have to acknowledge the insane privilege that we have that we are in a country in a place that we can so freely.

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Professor our faith because that actually isn't what it's like around the entire world.

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No, definitely not, definitely not.

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So I'm going to acknowledge that immediately.

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But for us in like the UK, I think it's an interesting one.

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I think the Bible is countercultural.

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So if we're, if we're not living our lives counter culturally, then I don't think we're necessarily living it as we should be like in the obedience of Christ.

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And that comes to how we carry our relationships, how we carry our money, how we carry like our relationship to the poor, how we view ourselves or others.

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I think it's, it should, it should still be very countercultural.

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And so if people aren't seeing that, I'm like, why aren't they seeing that? What aren't they seeing?

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I do think people are maybe a bit more open to religion and to faith and spirituality.

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It doesn't feel like a strange concept as much.

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And especially maybe in these times when it was a lot more like the Jews and the Gentiles and it was very clear culture.

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But I think this culture of the Greek.

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There's a lot of those themes that are still in our culture today where it's a very sexualized.

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Culture or one that's a lot about power, a lot about wealth and money, like those themes are still carried across.

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So I think there's a good question to ask, I don't know if I have an answer to that.

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But it is still countercultural.

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But maybe it's that sometimes they'll be we're still living in that culture, like the world's culture a bit too much or maybe it's.

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We're not being brave enough about how we actually feel because we don't get canceled or.

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Maybe we're so in our church world that maybe we don't get enough hate because we're only we work in church.

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So we surround my church people all the time.

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I don't know, but.

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That's a good challenge.

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Yeah, I think it's a really good challenge.

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It's cool. That's what that's one of the things I like about this passage is that it.

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It challenges the almost the comfortability of.

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Of Christians.

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Yeah.

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But then also like in verse five.

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Tell my page.

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It's heavy page.

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Okay.

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Like you go in.

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In verse five.

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Paul then also comforts those who are being persecuted.

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So in a way he's like you're living counterculturally.

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And you should expect to be persecuted because you're living so controversially.

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But also when he could bear no longer thinking about them being persecuted.

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He sent Timothy.

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He did something about it.

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So it's like we're also we're not only called to.

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To live in such a way that might bring on the.

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The hate of others.

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Per se.

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For lack of a better word.

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But also that we're meant to like encourage each other and be there for each other and be each other's support.

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I just think that's so beautiful.

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That's so the opposite of.

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Just to be brutally honest.

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Like you see some churches that are just written with gossip and end.

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Like divisions and like even between churches themselves.

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You'll see I remember like a few months ago.

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I heard someone say that they went to a rival church of another church.

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And I was like bro.

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I think I think this is kind of what what Paul's almost as well speaking against is go support one other.

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Send people from your church to other churches to build them up.

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To love them to encourage them and support them in the gospel.

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Like there's not it's not like he's treating it as if this church is different completely from the one that he's a part of.

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In Antioch or in Corinth or in Philippi.

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Like they're all one church.

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Yeah.

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And they're all going to support each other and look after one another.

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I think that's so beautiful.

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It's the real need of help from other people which again is still probably quite counter cultural where it can be so easy to be like I can sort myself out.

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I don't even want to help me.

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But actually it's so clear in the Bible which like we are designed to help one another.

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We need other people were built to be in community and.

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That's really important to show your vulnerability and show your weakness and be like I need help others and then for us to also be willing to help others.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Oh, that's all I have for one to five.

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Oh, that's that that's that you've reminded me of like the the human need.

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For love is just as great as the human need to love.

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Yeah.

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We need both.

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Yeah.

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It's two a straight man.

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Two a street.

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A lot better than a one way street which you've had some issues with.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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Do you want to share with the class?

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Well, all I know is that a while ago you drove up a one way street.

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It wasn't just a one way street.

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It was four lanes of traffic that was a one way street and I turned right into four lanes of oncoming traffic because it was dark and I didn't realize.

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Wow.

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Praise the Lord for forgiveness.

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Am I right?

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No, and thank you that no one questions me.

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Any whom?

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Okay.

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Let's do it.

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But now that Timothy has come to us from you and has brought us the good news of your faith and love and reported that you always remember us kindly and long to see us as we long to see you.

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For this reason, brothers and sisters, in all our distress and affliction, we have been comforted about you through your faith.

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For now we live if you are standing fast in the Lord.

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For what Thanksgiving can we return to God for you?

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For all the joy that we feel for your sake before our God as we pray most earnestly.

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Night and day that we may see you face to face and supply what is lacking.

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Wow.

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I was really struggling to keep up with all my person.

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It's in the way.

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Oh, apologies.

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No, that's my bad.

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Let's walk me through what's what's the posted note saying?

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Okay.

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So let's look at verse six to begin with.

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There's a few bits and bobs in here.

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First of all, we haven't really mentioned this in this podcast yet, but I hope you've mentioned it in chapter two podcast.

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But there was a lot of like stuff being said about Paul that was quite negative and a lot of like because he didn't really.

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Yeah, so we had a lot of people against him.

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So it was almost like people that were left behind.

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It's a part of the persecution was them being very unkind about Paul or saying all these things.

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So part of this in verse six is his relief that he's encouraged that they didn't believe all these lies have been told about Paul.

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Like people tried discount and discredit and all that good stuff.

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So that's why he was that I'm really glad to hear you thinking of us kindly and so that's linking to that good stuff.

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And the word of good news is the only time in Paul's writings where this verb isn't used to describe that preaching the gospel.

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Which I don't know what that means really, but it's a fun fact because normally it like good news is like Jesus is here.

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So it's the only time.

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But that's how much he's feeling this is a great news.

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It's like an announcement kind of declaration of good news.

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But let's say the main thing that stood out to me from verse six was this phrase of faith and love.

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And these are themes that Paul speaks about a lot.

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Like the grace open love of faith and love and you know good bodily Christian stuff.

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But I think faith and love is like the sum total of like godliness.

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I think that's that's what what you could define Christianity with is faith.

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Really?

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But it's also love. Do you not agree?

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Yeah, no, I do agree.

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I just yeah, wow, that's just a big claim. You know what I mean?

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Yeah, but some of who is who is God? What does it mean to be godly?

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It is love. God is love.

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And then also having that faith.

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Well, I think sorry, the reason why I was probably like hesitant to say that is because I think people who

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who don't know the Lord and are just looking at Christianity from the outside.

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I don't think they would say that we're marked by love or I don't know if they would.

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Make sure that we want the hope.

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Like I've I know a lot of people who have been hurt by Christians and like they just don't think that I'm defining

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mark of a Christian is their love.

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Which I think is such a shame.

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Because it so should be because that's what we're called to be is like God is love Jesus is God.

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Therefore Jesus is love and we're called to be little crusts which what Christian means.

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So we're called to be love.

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And I think even like a lot of this letter in this theme is like you're doing a really good job.

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Like keep loving, but this will be a lot more in chapter four.

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But it's like do more, you can always do more, you can always love more.

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So I think like we'll never always be growth and they'll always be stuff we can do.

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But the the sum of what God in us would be I think is faith and love.

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Well, yeah, he's so encouraged.

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Bro loves encouragement.

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What what genuinely actually what stood out to me.

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I think was in verse 10 as we pray most earnestly night and day.

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Like that's crazy.

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Surely he's not serious.

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He's not really praying night and day.

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He's saying because that's just one of the churches and if he's visited what like a handful of churches at this point.

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If he's praying if he's praying for this the Thessalonians, he's probably praying for the other churches.

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Yeah.

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I just think it's so interesting because how would we treat prayer differently if we knew its power and Paul clearly like,

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I mean, if you want, you can just read the book of Acts.

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These guys were built different in terms of like not only again their love and joy and peace and for their faith and all those things.

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But then also like, I think we got it, you got to confront the fact that they were like spiritual weapons.

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Like they were masters of being like Jesus in every way, including the authority of the Spirit, including signs and wonders,

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including preaching and knowing the word and knowing what Jesus came to do and did.

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And if they're if they're praying constantly, that means we should be praying constantly.

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But if that's a tool that they were using to what's what's what's like the like combat like.

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If that's what they're using as supplication.

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That's a long word. Let's dumb it down a little bit for me.

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Well, that's what I was trying to do, but I couldn't think of another word.

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What's I guess like if that's what they're doing in accompaniment to other things of preaching the gospel and living as Christ alongside.

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That's totally the word I was looking for. If they're praying alongside living like Christ, preaching the gospel, encouraging one another, all of these other things.

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That means we should be praying too. Absolutely. And that means there must be power and prayer.

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But there's so few Christians who pray classily.

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There's definitely a challenge. Again, we can always do more. But when we are truly passionate about something, I find that it's on my mind a lot and I pray about a lot.

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And I think this also reflects Paul's heart as he was so passionate about praying for them and praying for what is lacking what I thought was an interesting mindset supply what was lacking.

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It's like in the midst of the joy, he's also still concerned to them to like effect and complete what's lacking in their faith.

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It's always like it's not just encouragement, but it's like we can still I want to still help shape and disciple you.

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And that's so many of his letters of Paul is is encouragement, but also shaping so it's and that's he's doing that practically by writing these letters.

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And now we also have this gift of being able to write like read these letters that are written and be shaped by them.

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But he was also praying about it because he really passionately believed it and prayed about it constantly, which is a beautiful example.

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And there's a few times where Paul writes like follow me as I follow Christ or do as I did kind of thing, which means he's carrying himself to such a standard, which he can be like do as I do.

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I always think is such a challenge. Like how can we carry ourselves to such a standard of prayer of living like Jesus and speaking his word.

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How can we carry ourselves at such a standard that we could genuinely wholeheartedly say do as I do to know Jesus.

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I think is a real challenge and I think prayer is a huge part of that because it's so huge and understanding the power of it.

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And in an act they saw crazy things and I think acts as a beautiful book because you see almost like the highlights and the low lights real like you see all that goes really well, all that kind of gets really wrong.

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And it misses out probably a lot of stuff. There's probably so many answer prayers that's not even in there. But but also so many unanswered prayers are probably in there as well, because God doesn't necessarily answer all prayers and how we expect it.

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However, their faith was so strong and they believed so much and what, you know, they were living for it. Like they believed so much in Jesus and believed so much in the church because it is true and they believed it to be true that they took action.

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And again, classic Paul, he's taking action. He's encouraging them. He's sending Tim. He's writing them letters Tim.

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That's so funny because I write Tim in my notes because Timothy's so long he sends Timothy that's so fun. But my point is he takes action and that action is also with prayer because prayer isn't this like passive in active thing.

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It's not your last resort. It is the most powerful thing we could do alongside also living our life for the Jesus.

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Wow.

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What are they there?

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If you, if you're, yeah, man, if you're not praying, what are you doing there?

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What are you doing? Why don't you pray? God's God's literally God and ear. Those who pray, there's got to be bothered.

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That was a natural question I was asking you. What are you doing if you're not praying? You probably know I mean you as well.

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Oh, when I'm not praying, like why do you not pray? Oh, well, I do pray, but when I'm not praying, what takes you away from prayer?

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I'll be honest, what's really hindering me from prayer right now is sleep. I've got a lot going on day to day and so like by the time I get home, I want to go to sleep.

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And if I, if I would wake up early in the morning to pray, I need to wake up pretty early and I'm just like so tired of so not a morning person.

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God, how do you sleep as well, doesn't he?

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I think my cousin sent me the Bible passage in Mark four, I think it is where it says Jesus got up before sunrise and prayed and spent time to Lord.

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That felt really timely and so I think the Lord's challenging me right now.

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Even there's that song where it says like you go to sleep and wake up early in vain and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

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It's basically time to like you do all these things but without prayer and connecting with Lord, it's got a pointless as I feel right now, but it's still getting in my way.

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So sleep. Yeah, I need to prioritize the one.

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Thanks for your vulnerability.

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Yeah.

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Didn't love telling you about that.

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What's yours?

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I think that's my way of prayer is talking to other people or music.

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So I walk a lot of places where I go to the bus a lot or I often fill my time with.

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I'm replying to my friends or I'm texting or I'm voice noting and often I'm like go through something and my initial response to be to voice note my friend instead of praying about it.

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And so I've identified that recently whereas I just I walk home an hour every day from work and how often of those times do I call people which is really important to be connected.

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But often I'm like I'm going to have this as a prayer walk and then I don't.

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So sometimes it's my my want and need for like a human friend.

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Probably trumps my want and need to pray for my God friend.

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That's me.

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Super valid God to be a man whenever you say yes to something you gotta say no to another thing.

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One yes is a thousand knows is that quote from someone right.

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That's about saying yes to Jesus is.

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Jesus is the best yes.

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Yeah.

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The best yes.

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Anyway, let's continue.

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This is probably my favorite part.

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Jesus verses 11 to 13 is a prayer.

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So he closes out this section and you'll notice when we move to chapter four that the tone kind of changes.

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So he closed out this section of like encouragement and just loving on them glazing on them.

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Glazed dropping insane glaze on the church by just saying a little prayer for them.

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So let's pray this prayer.

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Now may our God and father himself and our Lord Jesus direct our way to you.

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And may the Lord make you increase and abound in love for one another and for all as we do for you.

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So he may establish your heart's blameless in holiness before our God and father at the coming of our Lord Jesus with all his saints.

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Amen.

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Amen.

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Do you have any sticky notes?

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Of course I do.

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A city question.

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Yeah, that like this is literally my favorite part of it.

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I think it's beautiful.

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Do you want to go first?

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I thought I've gone first for the other chunks.

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Sure.

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Nice.

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Well, it's important, as always, when we pray to address who we're praying to, which is God the Father.

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Jesus the Son.

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And it's interesting because I heard this explanation of prayer recently where prayers like.

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It can be spending time with the Lord.

460
00:31:08.160 --> 00:31:10.160
It can be you listening to the Lord.

461
00:31:10.160 --> 00:31:16.160
But it's prayer and it's most basic forms is us giving requests to Lord.

462
00:31:16.160 --> 00:31:23.160
And like pouring out our hearts and what we need.

463
00:31:23.160 --> 00:31:27.160
And that's like most of what Jesus prayers, the example that he gives us.

464
00:31:27.160 --> 00:31:29.160
Our Father word and heaven, how would be your name?

465
00:31:29.160 --> 00:31:31.160
Your kingdom come, your will be done.

466
00:31:31.160 --> 00:31:32.160
Request.

467
00:31:33.160 --> 00:31:34.160
Request.

468
00:31:34.160 --> 00:31:37.160
Even like forgive us our sins, request.

469
00:31:37.160 --> 00:31:40.160
So at its heart, prayers are a request.

470
00:31:40.160 --> 00:31:43.160
And the request he makes here is on behalf of other people.

471
00:31:43.160 --> 00:31:51.160
We call that interceding in prayer, which means I'm going to pray on your behalf for things that you need.

472
00:31:51.160 --> 00:31:55.160
And here the need is that they would have bound and loved for one another.

473
00:31:55.160 --> 00:31:58.160
And that's his prayer to you, to him.

474
00:31:58.160 --> 00:32:09.160
And I guess you could say to us that that like if we were to pray for one another, that that could be a really good request.

475
00:32:09.160 --> 00:32:13.160
But I'm never really prayed for someone else to like grow in character.

476
00:32:13.160 --> 00:32:14.160
Really?

477
00:32:14.160 --> 00:32:17.160
Sorry, I didn't mean to say that quite so short.

478
00:32:17.160 --> 00:32:18.160
Really?

479
00:32:18.160 --> 00:32:19.160
Should I?

480
00:32:19.160 --> 00:32:20.160
Probably.

481
00:32:20.160 --> 00:32:24.160
Like I've not, I've not really grown to be like, Father, would you grow this person in X?

482
00:32:24.160 --> 00:32:26.160
If they've not just asked for it.

483
00:32:26.160 --> 00:32:27.160
You know what I mean?

484
00:32:27.160 --> 00:32:32.160
If someone's asked, if someone's asked me like, I'm trying to, I'm trying to be more at peace with things.

485
00:32:32.160 --> 00:32:33.160
I'll pray for them.

486
00:32:33.160 --> 00:32:35.160
Where did you grow them in peace?

487
00:32:35.160 --> 00:32:40.160
But I'm not a huge, I struggle with intercession.

488
00:32:40.160 --> 00:32:41.160
Loki.

489
00:32:41.160 --> 00:32:42.160
It's interesting.

490
00:32:42.160 --> 00:32:44.160
Yeah.

491
00:32:44.160 --> 00:32:46.160
You're a big, you're a big interceder.

492
00:32:46.160 --> 00:32:47.160
Yeah, I'm a big prayer.

493
00:32:47.160 --> 00:32:48.160
I think.

494
00:32:48.160 --> 00:32:49.160
Wait, wait, wait.

495
00:32:49.160 --> 00:32:50.160
Do you pray for me?

496
00:32:50.160 --> 00:32:52.160
Hold the time.

497
00:32:52.160 --> 00:32:53.160
Seriously?

498
00:32:53.160 --> 00:32:54.160
Yeah, hold the time.

499
00:32:54.160 --> 00:32:55.160
Whoa.

500
00:32:55.160 --> 00:32:58.160
What do you pray for me for?

501
00:32:58.160 --> 00:32:59.160
So, shall you?

502
00:32:59.160 --> 00:33:00.160
Sorry, yeah.

503
00:33:00.160 --> 00:33:01.160
This is vulnerable.

504
00:33:01.160 --> 00:33:04.160
Like, it's real.

505
00:33:04.160 --> 00:33:06.160
I pray for you a lot.

506
00:33:06.160 --> 00:33:08.160
I pray for your leadership.

507
00:33:08.160 --> 00:33:12.160
I pray for you to have people as like mentors that can help guide you and shape you.

508
00:33:12.160 --> 00:33:13.160
Damn.

509
00:33:13.160 --> 00:33:14.160
I pray for your boldness.

510
00:33:14.160 --> 00:33:20.160
I pray for your confidence to speak that truth and in love.

511
00:33:20.160 --> 00:33:28.160
And then also as you're a youth leader in our church, I pray a lot for your example to the kids and making sure that like your character is aligned for that.

512
00:33:28.160 --> 00:33:31.160
I pray for your relationship with the kids.

513
00:33:31.160 --> 00:33:33.160
I pray for all my friends like that.

514
00:33:33.160 --> 00:33:35.160
That's a.

515
00:33:35.160 --> 00:33:37.160
Well, I actually didn't know that.

516
00:33:37.160 --> 00:33:46.160
But that's one of my things I pray for a lot is that I, if I'm friends with people and very close friends with them, I want their lives to be different because of my prayers for them.

517
00:33:46.160 --> 00:33:48.160
I don't want them to just be friends with me.

518
00:33:48.160 --> 00:33:52.160
I want them to be genuinely better Jesus followers.

519
00:33:52.160 --> 00:33:55.160
And that's not just, I, there's only so much I can do with that.

520
00:33:55.160 --> 00:33:57.160
But by prayer can.

521
00:33:57.160 --> 00:34:01.160
So, yeah, I pray for all you guys.

522
00:34:01.160 --> 00:34:03.160
Wow.

523
00:34:03.160 --> 00:34:07.160
The only, hey, the only other thing I noticed that I really like this.

524
00:34:07.160 --> 00:34:11.160
Wait, is your next thing on the other verses or on that one still?

525
00:34:11.160 --> 00:34:14.160
No, it's on the last verse.

526
00:34:14.160 --> 00:34:16.160
Okay, let me do this one first.

527
00:34:16.160 --> 00:34:19.160
First one, I'm going to read you my version of it.

528
00:34:19.160 --> 00:34:27.160
May the Lord make your love increase and overflow for each other and for everyone else just as ours does for you.

529
00:34:27.160 --> 00:34:32.160
And basically what I mentioned earlier about Paul also mentioning what is lacking.

530
00:34:32.160 --> 00:34:36.160
And wanting them to like.

531
00:34:36.160 --> 00:34:42.160
Where was the phrase I don't know where I've lost and it's my thing, but it was talking about like still.

532
00:34:42.160 --> 00:34:45.160
I'm praying for them that they're like fills what was lacking.

533
00:34:45.160 --> 00:34:47.160
And this is basically given the solution from that.

534
00:34:47.160 --> 00:34:49.160
It's a supply what is lacking.

535
00:34:49.160 --> 00:34:52.160
And I was in verse 10, lol.

536
00:34:52.160 --> 00:34:54.160
And basically the answer is to increase in love.

537
00:34:54.160 --> 00:34:56.160
And that is always the answer.

538
00:34:56.160 --> 00:35:01.160
Like with your lacking anything is increasing love and love for each other and then for everyone else.

539
00:35:01.160 --> 00:35:06.160
And it kind of like that's an example of how we love each other.

540
00:35:06.160 --> 00:35:10.160
It begins in the family of God within a must go beyond.

541
00:35:10.160 --> 00:35:15.160
It begins as we're talking about earlier, there's unity between churches, but also within churches.

542
00:35:15.160 --> 00:35:20.160
And learning how to love each other is really, really importantly must increase in our love for each other.

543
00:35:20.160 --> 00:35:25.160
But it also must be beyond the church to then make that difference in culture that we were speaking earlier as well.

544
00:35:25.160 --> 00:35:33.160
It's like if if our love only is within the church, then how is the culture even meant to know that we're there.

545
00:35:33.160 --> 00:35:36.160
So that was the little thing about the self acts.

546
00:35:36.160 --> 00:35:38.160
What is lacking?

547
00:35:38.160 --> 00:35:41.160
Probably can be answered with having more love.

548
00:35:41.160 --> 00:35:42.160
Love.

549
00:35:42.160 --> 00:35:46.160
I think that's going back to what we were talking about earlier and verse 13.

550
00:35:46.160 --> 00:35:51.160
I think that's what should mainly set us apart is our love.

551
00:35:51.160 --> 00:35:54.160
I think people have the words set apart written in my actual Bible.

552
00:35:54.160 --> 00:35:55.160
Where's that linked to?

553
00:35:55.160 --> 00:35:56.160
Yeah, because it's holiness, right?

554
00:35:56.160 --> 00:35:58.160
Oh, yes, linked to the word holy.

555
00:35:58.160 --> 00:36:07.160
In verse 13, it says so that he, Jesus, may establish your heart's blameless in holiness.

556
00:36:07.160 --> 00:36:08.160
Yeah.

557
00:36:08.160 --> 00:36:17.160
And I mean, you know this, but to be holy is to be separate or other than like set apart, like you wrote down.

558
00:36:17.160 --> 00:36:20.160
And so it's to be different, to be different than what?

559
00:36:20.160 --> 00:36:25.160
To be different than the world, to be different than those who don't know Jesus.

560
00:36:25.160 --> 00:36:30.160
And that's not to separate ourselves or like segregate ourselves.

561
00:36:30.160 --> 00:36:35.160
But so that we can show them that there is actually a benefit to following Christ.

562
00:36:35.160 --> 00:36:37.160
There is a difference that it makes.

563
00:36:37.160 --> 00:36:38.160
Yeah.

564
00:36:38.160 --> 00:36:39.160
And then we can be witnesses.

565
00:36:39.160 --> 00:36:46.160
That's what it means to be a priest is to be a witness on behalf of the Lord to his, to the people that maybe don't know him.

566
00:36:46.160 --> 00:36:49.160
And so we're called to be holy.

567
00:36:49.160 --> 00:36:51.160
And I guess that's love.

568
00:36:51.160 --> 00:36:56.160
So that difference should be that people should know us by our love.

569
00:36:56.160 --> 00:37:06.160
And in the end, may Christ find us set apart and blameless in our love for others.

570
00:37:06.160 --> 00:37:08.160
And I think that's just so powerful.

571
00:37:08.160 --> 00:37:16.160
How many, how many people would, would change their opinion on the church and Jesus if they saw us as a loving people?

572
00:37:16.160 --> 00:37:28.160
I even heard this one quote where someone said that if everyone lived in the example of Christ, that everyone would want to be Christians.

573
00:37:28.160 --> 00:37:30.160
It's incredibly compelling.

574
00:37:30.160 --> 00:37:31.160
Yeah.

575
00:37:31.160 --> 00:37:35.160
I thought that was just so interesting.

576
00:37:35.160 --> 00:37:37.160
But yeah, we're meant to be set apart.

577
00:37:37.160 --> 00:37:42.160
Absolutely. And I think in verse 13, it really also explains that begins in the heart.

578
00:37:42.160 --> 00:37:46.160
It's like asking for the heart to be strengthened and that would be blameless and holy.

579
00:37:46.160 --> 00:37:51.160
And like it's in a, you know, in a desire to everything like it starts with the heart.

580
00:37:51.160 --> 00:37:54.160
And the basically Jesus coming back is great motivation.

581
00:37:54.160 --> 00:37:59.160
Paul is basically saying live as if Jesus is coming back tomorrow.

582
00:37:59.160 --> 00:38:01.160
Wait, Jesus is coming back.

583
00:38:01.160 --> 00:38:03.160
You don't explain that one for us.

584
00:38:03.160 --> 00:38:06.160
Well, actually, I kind of want to just leave it for the next episode, a little cliffhanger.

585
00:38:06.160 --> 00:38:07.160
Okay.

586
00:38:07.160 --> 00:38:08.160
You know what I mean?

587
00:38:08.160 --> 00:38:10.160
Okay.

588
00:38:11.160 --> 00:38:14.160
I kind of feel like, you know, Jesus is coming back.

589
00:38:14.160 --> 00:38:19.160
Jesus coming back is great motivation for us to love others.

590
00:38:19.160 --> 00:38:20.160
That's right.

591
00:38:20.160 --> 00:38:21.160
He's going to come back.

592
00:38:21.160 --> 00:38:24.160
He's going to see it for ourselves for himself.

593
00:38:24.160 --> 00:38:26.160
That's what I have to say.

594
00:38:26.160 --> 00:38:27.160
Great.

595
00:38:27.160 --> 00:38:32.160
Well, hey, Jesus is coming back in case you didn't know.

596
00:38:32.160 --> 00:38:35.160
Go watch the next episode because we're going to be talking about.

597
00:38:35.160 --> 00:38:36.160
Yeah, wait for the next episode.

598
00:38:36.160 --> 00:38:37.160
Yeah, sorry.

599
00:38:37.160 --> 00:38:38.160
That's a good point.

600
00:38:38.160 --> 00:38:39.160
Wait for the next episode.

601
00:38:39.160 --> 00:38:40.160
We will say, haven't done it yet.

602
00:38:40.160 --> 00:38:42.160
Hasn't even been recorded.

603
00:38:42.160 --> 00:38:44.160
Wait for the next episode.

604
00:38:44.160 --> 00:38:47.160
And first Thessalonians chapter four.

605
00:38:47.160 --> 00:38:48.160
We're going to go through.

606
00:38:48.160 --> 00:38:49.160
What does it mean?

607
00:38:49.160 --> 00:38:50.160
Jesus is coming back.

608
00:38:50.160 --> 00:38:51.160
What does that mean for us?

609
00:38:51.160 --> 00:38:56.160
But for now, why don't you go live in the example of Christ.

610
00:38:56.160 --> 00:38:59.160
Be set apart by your love for others.

611
00:38:59.160 --> 00:39:01.160
And be encouraged, man.

612
00:39:01.160 --> 00:39:02.160
Keep pressing on, guys.

613
00:39:02.160 --> 00:39:04.160
Because you're awesome.

614
00:39:04.160 --> 00:39:07.160
You're going to be about to a YouTube outro.

615
00:39:07.160 --> 00:39:09.160
Why don't you drop a subscribe?

616
00:39:09.160 --> 00:39:10.160
Hit that like button.

617
00:39:10.160 --> 00:39:12.160
What emoji, what emoji should they drop?

618
00:39:12.160 --> 00:39:13.160
What emoji should they drop?

619
00:39:13.160 --> 00:39:16.160
Um, uh, um, shoot.

620
00:39:16.160 --> 00:39:17.160
I don't know.

621
00:39:17.160 --> 00:39:18.160
Don't shoot.

622
00:39:18.160 --> 00:39:19.160
Love, love.

623
00:39:19.160 --> 00:39:20.160
Ooh.

624
00:39:20.160 --> 00:39:24.160
My favorite emoji at the moment is the, is the hands heart emoji.

625
00:39:24.160 --> 00:39:26.160
We do it together.

626
00:39:26.160 --> 00:39:29.160
This is me being known by my love.

627
00:39:29.160 --> 00:39:32.160
I didn't want to do this.

628
00:39:32.160 --> 00:39:34.160
That could be the literal thumb now.

629
00:39:35.160 --> 00:39:38.160
Um, drop that emoji.

630
00:39:38.160 --> 00:39:40.160
And we'll see you next time.

631
00:39:40.160 --> 00:39:43.160
Yo, thanks so much for joining us.

632
00:39:43.160 --> 00:39:45.160
Explosion.

633
00:39:45.160 --> 00:39:46.160
Bam.

634
00:39:46.160 --> 00:39:47.160
Bam.

635
00:39:47.160 --> 00:39:48.160
See you guys next time.

636
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Explosion emoji.
