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Hello and welcome to the recipe brought to you by Philippa Berrio.

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I'm your host, Theorandal, Chef Patrona Theorandal, Kitchena Taliana.

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Today I'm joined by guests whose victory in the 20th series of Mass Jeff UK

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was described by judges as the most exceptional in the competition's history.

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A veterinary surgeon by trade is traded the operating theatre for the kitchen,

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bringing a mass full taste of his Sri Lankan Tamil heritage.

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Please welcome Brynn Prithapin.

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Brynn Prithapin is a real pleasure to have you here today.

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Absolutely pleasure to be here with you.

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This show is all about recipes that have meaning, recipes that tell a story.

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What are you going to cook for us today?

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Today we have got Jaffna Mussels, which is a recipe out of my cookbook Elevate

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and it really kind of encompasses who I am as a cook and the way that I love to cook.

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It takes inspiration from my Tamil Sri Lankan background.

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Jaffna is a place in North Rangu where my parents are from.

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It takes some classic techniques from French cookery and that kind of melting together

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is how I love to cook and how I kind of love to show off cooking.

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So the classic French recipe would be Moonland, yeah?

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100% yeah.

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And obviously you've got different spices in there.

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So tell us about the spices you're going to find in.

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So with a seafood kind of dish,

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we often start with black mustard seeds and cumin seeds in the base.

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Really lovely and earthy.

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The cumin immediately hits the air and you can smell it.

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Of course we've got some lovely fresh curry leaves as well,

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which are just ubiquitous in Sri Lankan cooking.

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They're just vibrant and beautiful.

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And this delicious roasted Sri Lankan curry powder

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is kind of like the smell of my childhood.

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Roasted Sri Lankan has a little sniff of that.

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Wow.

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It's got a whole host of spice in which I'm not going to listen.

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It almost feels citrus.

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Oh, it's incredible.

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Yeah.

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So that's going to form quite an important part of the entire flavour profile within it.

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My parents have always laid on a feast for us.

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It's how I grew up.

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I didn't really realise how lucky I was till I got to uni.

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We obviously didn't really have muscles growing up.

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It was normally this kind of flavour but with a fish curry, quite commonly macro.

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And actually I used to kind of turn my nose up as a kid

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because I've got to take all the bones out.

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Yeah.

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It Sri Lankan feel we cooked with the bones.

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I saw where the flavour is.

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And now I realise why that is because you get all that beautiful flavour

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and you get that with the muscles here.

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Because they release all their wonderful flavour as well.

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And just taking those childhood memories and lessons from my parents

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and just putting it into something that I like to cook.

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And so your style of cooking is a little mixture of Sri Lankan food

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and your own style.

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I mean, how would you describe it?

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I'm very much an amalgamation of my Tamil Sri Lankan background,

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my British upbringing, all the travels that I've done.

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The book really encompasses that well because there's food

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from all over the world.

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And that's how I like to eat.

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So I think that's really that's just how I like to cook.

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And it's just creating things that bring it all together.

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I don't necessarily stick to one lane when I create one dish.

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Your first cookbook?

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Elevate?

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Yeah.

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What was that like?

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Obviously being very busy writing a book,

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it takes a lot of time and effort to write a book.

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No one tells you how much work it is when you write a book.

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But it's been great.

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It's something I always wanted to do.

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It takes the method of cooking that I love the most,

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which is essentially taking something very basic or everyday,

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elevating it into something vibrant and beautiful.

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And I've just tried to create a book that is accessible

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with ingredients that are accessible,

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but with dishes that seem bold and vibrant and full of flavour.

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Now you're a vet by trade.

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I mean, you're a veterinary surgeon,

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which has got to be the highest level of a vet.

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I know so many people that sort of wanted to go to vet school

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but never quite got there.

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So you've given that all up to be a chef cook.

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Yeah, I mean, the kitchen is very much my theatre now.

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I'm so happy working in food.

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Veterinary was great.

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I had a lovely career in it.

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I had a great time at uni or as a vet school.

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But it's just a whole new chapter of my life

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and I'm incredibly happy in it.

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So, and say we stay here.

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How did you get on MasterChef?

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MasterChef was something that I have watched my whole life.

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It's that thing that you just always end up sitting in front of.

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That's probably how I learnt to cook a lot

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because I watched them do it.

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I try and do it myself at home

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and pick up a few skills.

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And then it got to a point where I just thought,

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if I'm not on that show and I'm sitting at home watching it,

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I'll be really annoyed.

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So I'm going to have to apply.

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And see you applied.

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And what's the process?

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Do you do like a test or...

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Well, there's like a big, big online application

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and then phone interviews, face-to-face interviews.

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You've got to take food in and place out for them.

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And from that, you get on if you get on.

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And actually, when I did get on out,

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I suddenly panicked.

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I thought, I can't do this.

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I'm not going to do it.

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When you saw Greg and John, yeah.

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I'm like, oh my god, maybe not.

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But I nearly considered not doing it.

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And I think my wife had seen me come home

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and moan at work one too many times.

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And she was like, you're doing it.

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So your wife's been a big supporter in your career change?

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Always, yeah.

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I think she's happy I am in this job.

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I think it's so important, obviously,

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to be happy with...

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I mean, so many people care about doing the same profession

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all their lives because they just think it's a good profession

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to be in that even if they don't really enjoy it.

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But I think it just shows...

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I mean, a lot of courage to actually give up a job

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that we were probably incredibly good at

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and then come into a new field of cooking,

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which obviously you're very good at, actually, on the Mars Chef.

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But it just goes to show that, you know,

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you're obviously a very talented person.

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Thank you.

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What's your drive?

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I mean, you're like completely obsessive?

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I probably am quite obsessive.

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And Mars Chef did make me realize I'm an absolute perfectionist

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to a flaw because it's difficult to want to do everything perfectly.

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But I think the important thing is you don't need to stick to something

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just because you've been doing it for a certain amount of years

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or because the way society works is you've got into a job you stay into it.

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Life is full of chapters as well,

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and you're more than welcome to go and explore new things

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and whatever makes you happiest.

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And this is making me the happiest that any part of any career has made me so far.

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So it wasn't a difficult choice to just jump in and give it a go.

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So you must have come home from work and thought,

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right, I'm going to cook.

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I'm going to start cooking and cook a meal,

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which was obviously incredible for your wife.

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And that must have started your whole kind of inspiration.

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Was it that's how it worked?

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Absolutely.

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I mean, I think I probably started cooking properly when I went to university.

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Realised that what I was getting at home for my parents was a lot better than what was out there.

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And I wasn't really willing to bring that level down,

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so I had to learn how to do it myself.

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And then you go through uni, you try and impress people

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and probably girlfriends at the time.

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Yeah, of course, yeah.

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Always helps.

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Well, if it goes well anyway.

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And then with food being at home,

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coming back from a long day of work,

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getting into the kitchen and locking myself away

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and it was the way I relaxed and decompressed

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and it just was a passion that grew and grew and grew until

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I could make it a job, essentially.

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And to actually get onto mass chef and win it

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from having a passion for food is a great story.

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Well, you can put it like that.

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It's nice to kind of look back at it like that.

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Amazing. Well, I think we should start getting cooking, 100%.

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Right.

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So what do you want me to do?

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Why don't you get started with the onion?

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We're actually going to slice that.

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What's chopping onion in this shot?

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Slice that.

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It's always the start, isn't it?

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Just slice it.

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Yes, slice, please.

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I quite like the texture of the slice in this dish.

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Whole onion?

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Whole onion, please.

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I think growing up with those fish curries,

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that was one thing I do remember.

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It's like the stringy onion that goes through it.

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Give you a bit of texture.

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It's that sort of sweet strand that you sort of suck up with the juice.

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So, unsurprisingly, you won more technical skills

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than any other contestant on mass chef.

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Is that a fact?

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Yeah, apparently.

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I think that's down to your chopping techniques.

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I think a lot of it is probably down to my past career from when it's...

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I remember the first time the judges saw me fill it with fish.

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I remember them making a point of it.

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And I think, really, that's all down to anatomy, isn't it?

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If you know how to work around the anatomy of an animal,

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when it's alive, you probably know it's dead as well.

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Of course.

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But I mean, I guess you'd call that I'm dissecting the fish.

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It's not coming back, right?

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How have your parents...

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I mean, you know, your parents are probably your biggest fans or your biggest fans.

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And probably so proud of you being a veterinary surgeon.

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How do they feel about your new career?

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So, my parents are obviously elated about the movement with my career.

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one of you called them, I've done really well, you know, really happy.

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There was always that...

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You're still going to do veterinary, though, right?

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And then I think it got to maybe when we...

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When I got into the final, there was never a question then.

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And since then, there hasn't been a question of, oh, you're not going to do it.

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They're pretty happy for me to go.

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And then when you won it, they told all the neighbors.

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Yeah, yeah.

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They told everyone.

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And veterinary never was spoken about everything.

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So, well, I'm going to start off with the spy space.

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Now, black mustard seeds, quite different to the yellow mustard seeds that we normally see.

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Using yellow mustard seeds in this, I think they'll burn quite easily, quite bitter.

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These mustard seeds are also a great indicator of heat.

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And when to move on to the next step.

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Because as they start to spit, you know that you want to start getting in...

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You don't want to get any color on these.

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You just want to soften them.

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You just want, you know, they'll toast slightly and they'll start to spit.

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And then we can throw the onions in to bring the heat of the pan down.

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And stop them from burning and going into that bitter flavour essentially.

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So, now it's just the case of letting those onions color soften slightly.

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That smell is always the place of a lovely career in any, yeah.

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So, proper whole spices, onions.

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Once they've softened, the garlic can go in as well.

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And then we're going to get cracking with all the other spices.

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So, obviously this is some lovely turmeric, which will add a bit of colour and that fragrance.

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And then this is our secret ingredient, the Sri Lankan roasted curry powder.

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It is spicy, but the coconut milk will mellow that out a little bit.

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As will the tomato.

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And I was kind of used to growing up having...

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You know, eating it was way too spicy for me anyway until I did handle it.

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I wasn't very good at spice growing up as a kid.

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But Sri Lankan food, I mean, you have different dishes with different sort of heat elements.

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I always think Sri Lankan is just being incredibly fresh and vibrant.

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I don't see it as being like really sort of super spicy.

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Oh, it is.

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Yeah. Well, or just my parents.

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Well, it can be pretty fierce, but then also, as you said earlier,

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there are so many vegetarian curries which aren't always that spicy.

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No, sure.

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And the meat you want to say, we really try and plow loads of chilli into that normally.

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My mum's definitely got used to tailoring curries for...

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Well, myself and I was a kid, my wife's not amazing with spice.

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Really?

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Sister-in-law, so they're very good at tailoring it to audiences.

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So if you ever have a dinner, you don't need to worry again.

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And so you're originally from Chelmsford, but you now live in Bristol.

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And obviously, Bristol has got an incredible dining scene.

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Have you ever tempted to open a restaurant or...

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I mean, you've been doing pop-ups?

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Yeah, I mean, the restaurant temptation is obviously always there,

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but I'm really loving everything I'm doing at the moment with content and writing and things like this.

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The pop-up scene is a lovely way to itch that scratch of...

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Yeah.

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Did it be feasting the water to see what it's like?

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Did it get in the water and not do it the next day kind of thing?

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One thing to see myself doing on Instagram or on whatever online.

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It's another to really get into an immersive experience with it.

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It's quite a nice way to do it.

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But you're kind of creating your own brand now, aren't you?

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Absolutely.

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Yeah, this whole journey is completely new.

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And what I want to make sure I'm doing is doing everything I love.

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So creating recipes, creating content, writing books.

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I just want to immerse myself in as many of those things as possible.

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I think it's a big temptation when you win something like MasterChef.

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It's open a restaurant.

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And you've got to remember that you're a surgeon, a veterinary surgeon,

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and all of a sudden you're opening a restaurant with a whole team of people

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and having to manage how that works.

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And it takes years to get to that knowledge,

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takes years to understand and get to and understand how a restaurant works.

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So I think you're doing it in the right way and actually just sort of feeling it

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and understanding what you need to do by doing pop-ups and writing good books.

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Thank you.

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And I do think that it's really easy.

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Plenty of people have done it.

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A lot of us end up choosing a career when we were quite young

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from something that was a passion.

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And that passion could often quickly become a job that you don't like.

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And what I didn't want to do with food was dive into something too quickly

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or in a naive way and turn what is a passion into something I don't like.

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That would have been the worst thing I could have done.

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Make your life very stressful.

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Exactly, yeah.

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I want to make my life joyous.

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Yeah, of course.

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And this is exactly what it is.

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Cooking is a wonderful way of expressing yourself.

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100%.

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I mean, this recipe kind of does that, doesn't it?

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Yeah.

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You can probably, if you really break this down,

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you can see every of myself and who I am,

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and my background within this is.

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It's the perfect way to put it really, it's a real expression.

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So we're going to go in with one more whole spice and that's Fenigreek.

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But the reason I don't put that in at the start is because Fenigreek that cooks

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as much as I want those mustard seeds or cumin seeds to cook

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will go a bit of really quickly.

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Okay.

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It's near and impossible to get that taste out once it's into a curry.

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Okay.

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At the same time, because I want the heat of the pan to come down a little.

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I'm going to get the tomatoes in as well.

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Fresh tomatoes, or can you use tin?

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I always go fresh with this dish because tinned off the meat,

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everything a bit too watery.

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And a bit too red.

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A bit, yeah.

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Yeah.

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I know we should know people like us in the industry

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shouldn't be using a bit too red as the reason, but it is true.

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And it kind of takes away from the deep brown depth

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that is ubiquitous in this kind of cuisine.

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Yeah.

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I remember growing up and you go to curry houses

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and they were also orange.

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Yeah.

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And I didn't understand why their curries were orange,

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but my parents' curries, the taste of butter, were brown.

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Brown doesn't necessarily a tasty flavour.

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Yeah.

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But it's flavour, isn't it?

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That's what that colour is.

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It's depth.

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But I mean, the thing about curries, I mean Sri Lankan food,

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when I say it's fresh, it's using fresh ingredients.

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You're not using a sort of big base of like, you know,

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a curry base for tomato that's very dense

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and then adding it to other dishes.

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You're actually making everything super fresh.

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I think I probably cooked like that because

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the way my parents went to cook when they were in Sri Lanka,

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they were probably weren't surrounded by tins of tomatoes.

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It was all fresh ingredients.

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Yeah.

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So then when they came here and cooked in front of me,

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it's probably the exact same thing they did,

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so I've probably taken that on.

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That's probably the reason why I don't like using tins of tomatoes.

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Yeah, sure.

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So now we're going to get in with our curry powder

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and a touch of turmeric,

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a lovely little colour to the dish.

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When you're wanting a cookbook,

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you've got to make sure people are going to cook from it.

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And this recipe, I think it's a great recipe

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for anyone that's not necessarily wants to make a big curry,

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but they want to do something that's sort of simple to make

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but has got all that flavour.

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Absolutely.

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And that's all I wanted to produce when I was writing a cookbook.

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I want you to pick up a book and say,

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I really want to make something that seems like it's taken forever.

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Yeah.

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And seems incredibly impressive.

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Yeah.

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And seems like it has all these incredible ingredients in it

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that are difficult to get hold of.

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But actually, it's only taking you half an hour.

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You've got your ingredients from your local supermarket

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and it wasn't that difficult.

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This is all coming together in one pan.

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Yeah.

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You've got 12 pans on the go here,

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but when you serve it up, you can serve the stuff at a dinner party

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and people are being incredibly happy.

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But I mean, just the smell.

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I'm not saying it's incredible.

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So, this is your first book, Cookbook, Elevate.

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And what is it like writing it?

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I mean, no one tells you how to write a cookbook in the beginning.

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And when you sign that deal, you think,

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oh, this is great, I'm going to no cookbook.

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But actually, you've got to write the bloody thing.

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It's a bit of a baptism of fire to be honest with you

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because you get that deal and you think,

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let's get started.

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I mean, it might lead to that.

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You think, oh, do I start?

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It's that perfectionist in me, again, I guess.

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If you give me a job, I kind of want to get cracking with it immediately.

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Yeah.

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And probably a bit too quickly.

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So, I had to create an entire WhatsApp group

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based on the fact that I was creating a cookbook

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called Brinds Vultures because there was so much food in the house

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doing three dishes from the book a day.

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I was trying to create.

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And I don't have enough fridge space.

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So, I was having people come around.

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I didn't want them to take their shoes off one of them

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and bring their own top wear over.

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Just want you to come in, steal the food and go.

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Because they need it out.

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I don't know how tired they're so slow.

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But it was so fun because I'm quite a creative person

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and veterinary didn't really give me any creative release.

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And you start trying to create three recipes a day.

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And I'm just getting to release all of that creativity that's in me.

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So, I have actually loved it a lot.

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Things like the shoot are fantastic.

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When you start seeing everything come to life.

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And then finally when it comes through the door.

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It's amazing feeling.

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It's an amazing feeling.

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It's what I was really...

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From the moment I won my chef or even got onto it,

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you think I just would love a cookbook for my name on that.

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I'll just wait for publication day.

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That's the best day of all.

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That's tamarind that's just gone in there.

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So, a bit of citrusy.

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Yeah, and citrusy and it's also quite deep.

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And it adds a lovely colour.

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We call it pulley, you know, in our culture.

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And it's very important in a lot of dishes.

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Pully.

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Yeah, pulley, okay.

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Oh, yes.

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It's amazing.

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It's amazing.

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I mean, I'm just...

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This is incredible.

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Can you see that depth that's already been produced?

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I mean, we've only been here for 15 minutes.

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Yeah.

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We've already managed to get something with that brown colour

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that I was talking about.

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It's wonderful.

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Amazing, amazing smells.

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So, the final thing that really needs to go in before the muscles

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is a touch of coconut milk.

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Yeah.

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I don't add too much.

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I wouldn't add a whole tin, half a tin.

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A whole tin takes away from the spice a little bit.

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Yeah.

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You can make it a little bit diluted.

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Basically diluted.

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Yeah, it does dilute it.

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And that will be enough.

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And I'll let that simmer away for a few minutes before we go in

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with the muscles that will steam and cook in there.

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So, when you were studying, I mean, cooking was obviously

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your kind of release from doing all the, you know, your coursework.

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You said you missed home.

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Were you cooking Sri Lankan food when you were studying?

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To be honest, one of my biggest regrets was not cooking

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the food of my culture whilst I was at uni.

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But there was no point because every time I went home

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or every time my parents came to me,

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they'd fill my freezer up with curries.

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It was completely normal to have about 20 curries in there.

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My house makes hated me because they had no freezer space.

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I'd offset that way.

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Give them some curries every now and then.

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So, I didn't see the point in cooking, trying to cook a,

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you know, mountain curry on a Tuesday.

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And then having to eat it the next day.

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But it'll be a lot better the next day because it was my parents' one.

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So, I would try and cook.

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Other stuff.

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But since graduating, since working and kind of going into this career,

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one really big part of it has been really getting into the food of my culture

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and working out all the nuances of it.

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And what it was that I loved growing up and eating,

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it's really important.

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So, hopefully we'll head over to Sri Lanka soon as well

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and dive into the food a little bit there.

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I've been to Sri Lanka once and it was absolutely amazing.

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I mean, a really beautiful place.

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Beautiful people.

509
00:20:51.000 --> 00:20:52.000
Great food.

510
00:20:52.000 --> 00:20:53.000
This is reminding me of it.

511
00:20:53.000 --> 00:20:55.000
This comes from the north in Jaffna,

512
00:20:55.000 --> 00:20:56.000
which is where my parents from were.

513
00:20:56.000 --> 00:20:59.000
It's got a very strong Tamil population.

514
00:20:59.000 --> 00:21:01.000
And this is very much our food.

515
00:21:01.000 --> 00:21:03.000
That smell is right there.

516
00:21:03.000 --> 00:21:04.000
Amazing.

517
00:21:05.000 --> 00:21:07.000
So, I would say cooking is about confidence.

518
00:21:07.000 --> 00:21:11.000
And during the 20th anniversary episode of MasterChef,

519
00:21:11.000 --> 00:21:15.000
you got a standing ovation from other 15 other winners,

520
00:21:15.000 --> 00:21:16.000
past winners.

521
00:21:16.000 --> 00:21:20.000
That must have given you a huge boost to your morale.

522
00:21:20.000 --> 00:21:25.000
That evening was just the most incredible experience.

523
00:21:25.000 --> 00:21:27.000
And that's standing ovation.

524
00:21:27.000 --> 00:21:28.000
Wow.

525
00:21:28.000 --> 00:21:30.000
What more can you ask for?

526
00:21:30.000 --> 00:21:34.000
A room full of past winners,

527
00:21:34.000 --> 00:21:37.000
complete culinary heroes, all of us.

528
00:21:37.000 --> 00:21:39.000
We just coached for all of them as well.

529
00:21:39.000 --> 00:21:42.000
And that kind of buzz from the...

530
00:21:42.000 --> 00:21:44.000
Our first ever service, really.

531
00:21:44.000 --> 00:21:45.000
Combined with that was...

532
00:21:45.000 --> 00:21:47.000
I always remember that.

533
00:21:47.000 --> 00:21:48.000
Absolutely.

534
00:21:48.000 --> 00:21:51.000
You really need those kind of things for this career.

535
00:21:51.000 --> 00:21:52.000
A hundred percent.

536
00:21:52.000 --> 00:21:54.000
A bit of morale, boosting, confidence.

537
00:21:54.000 --> 00:21:57.000
Kind of, you know, to prove what you're doing.

538
00:21:57.000 --> 00:21:58.000
It's all right.

539
00:21:58.000 --> 00:21:59.000
Yeah.

540
00:21:59.000 --> 00:22:01.000
So, our base is pretty much there.

541
00:22:01.000 --> 00:22:02.000
It's bubbling away.

542
00:22:02.000 --> 00:22:05.000
And now we're going to put in these beautiful muscles,

543
00:22:05.000 --> 00:22:07.000
pop a lid on it and let them steam.

544
00:22:07.000 --> 00:22:10.000
They will release their juices as well.

545
00:22:10.000 --> 00:22:12.000
So, even though that base looks a bit thick,

546
00:22:12.000 --> 00:22:15.000
by the time we open up the lid,

547
00:22:15.000 --> 00:22:18.000
we're going to have a lovely bit of sauce to...

548
00:22:18.000 --> 00:22:20.000
Get that bread right in there.

549
00:22:20.000 --> 00:22:21.000
Get it to me.

550
00:22:21.000 --> 00:22:22.000
Oh, yeah, get it to me.

551
00:22:22.000 --> 00:22:23.000
Get those muscles going.

552
00:22:23.000 --> 00:22:27.000
And I'll give that one quick stir before I pop the lid on.

553
00:22:27.000 --> 00:22:32.000
So, I want everything to be coated.

554
00:22:35.000 --> 00:22:36.000
Smells amazing.

555
00:22:36.000 --> 00:22:37.000
Should we check it out?

556
00:22:37.000 --> 00:22:38.000
Let's have a look.

557
00:22:38.000 --> 00:22:39.000
Wow.

558
00:22:39.000 --> 00:22:40.000
Look at those muscles.

559
00:22:40.000 --> 00:22:42.000
Beautiful muscles.

560
00:22:42.000 --> 00:22:44.000
They've all opened up.

561
00:22:44.000 --> 00:22:45.000
Lovely.

562
00:22:45.000 --> 00:22:46.000
I think you see that sauce now.

563
00:22:46.000 --> 00:22:48.000
That sauce is definitely looser than it was.

564
00:22:48.000 --> 00:22:50.000
But it's the perfect consistency

565
00:22:50.000 --> 00:22:52.000
to dunk a load of toasted sourdough.

566
00:22:52.000 --> 00:22:54.000
Or eat it like a soup.

567
00:22:54.000 --> 00:22:55.000
Absolutely.

568
00:22:55.000 --> 00:22:56.000
Yeah.

569
00:22:56.000 --> 00:22:58.000
I think muscles are such wonderful things.

570
00:22:58.000 --> 00:23:01.000
I mean, you know, they're affordable.

571
00:23:01.000 --> 00:23:02.000
They've got so much flavour.

572
00:23:02.000 --> 00:23:03.000
They're so sweet.

573
00:23:03.000 --> 00:23:04.000
And with this,

574
00:23:04.000 --> 00:23:06.000
it's just such a great combination.

575
00:23:06.000 --> 00:23:08.000
The smell is incredible.

576
00:23:08.000 --> 00:23:10.000
That's looking perfect.

577
00:23:10.000 --> 00:23:11.000
I think it's probably time to play it up.

578
00:23:11.000 --> 00:23:12.000
That's easy.

579
00:23:12.000 --> 00:23:13.000
Looks good.

580
00:23:19.000 --> 00:23:21.000
This smells absolutely amazing, Brent.

581
00:23:21.000 --> 00:23:22.000
I can just smell everything.

582
00:23:22.000 --> 00:23:24.000
It's got all those spices.

583
00:23:24.000 --> 00:23:27.000
The curry leaves really have a strong,

584
00:23:27.000 --> 00:23:29.000
slightly smoky kind of taste in them.

585
00:23:29.000 --> 00:23:30.000
Smell to them, rather.

586
00:23:30.000 --> 00:23:33.000
That smell just takes me back to,

587
00:23:33.000 --> 00:23:36.000
that's just dinner's getting started every time.

588
00:23:36.000 --> 00:23:38.000
Is this a childhood smell?

589
00:23:38.000 --> 00:23:39.000
100%.

590
00:23:39.000 --> 00:23:40.000
Yeah.

591
00:23:40.000 --> 00:23:42.000
The only thing it's missing is,

592
00:23:42.000 --> 00:23:44.000
I was always coughing at some point

593
00:23:44.000 --> 00:23:47.000
because they'd be putting in a lot more spice than I am now.

594
00:23:47.000 --> 00:23:49.000
And you'd know that dinner was about half our way

595
00:23:49.000 --> 00:23:51.000
if you started coughing a little bit in the other way.

596
00:23:51.000 --> 00:23:55.000
Are you immune to spice, do you think?

597
00:23:55.000 --> 00:23:56.000
No.

598
00:23:56.000 --> 00:23:59.000
No, I mean, my dad and my brother are

599
00:23:59.000 --> 00:24:01.000
near on immune to it, I would say.

600
00:24:01.000 --> 00:24:03.000
I'm definitely not anywhere near there.

601
00:24:03.000 --> 00:24:04.000
Yeah.

602
00:24:04.000 --> 00:24:06.000
So we've got a garvy to go with this.

603
00:24:06.000 --> 00:24:09.000
So let's have a little glass of garvy to go with it.

604
00:24:09.000 --> 00:24:11.000
Delicious muscles.

605
00:24:11.000 --> 00:24:12.000
Thank you.

606
00:24:12.000 --> 00:24:13.000
Cheers.

607
00:24:13.000 --> 00:24:14.000
Cheers.

608
00:24:14.000 --> 00:24:15.000
Right.

609
00:24:15.000 --> 00:24:16.000
Lovely.

610
00:24:16.000 --> 00:24:17.000
Delicious.

611
00:24:17.000 --> 00:24:18.000
Let's tuck in.

612
00:24:18.000 --> 00:24:19.000
So we've got a sourdough bread.

613
00:24:19.000 --> 00:24:20.000
So I'm going to take some bread.

614
00:24:20.000 --> 00:24:22.000
I'm actually using the juice first and a muscle.

615
00:24:22.000 --> 00:24:25.000
You definitely, this is just perfect for,

616
00:24:25.000 --> 00:24:26.000
definitely.

617
00:24:26.000 --> 00:24:27.000
Yeah.

618
00:24:27.000 --> 00:24:29.000
Oh, that's lovely.

619
00:24:29.000 --> 00:24:31.000
That's really good.

620
00:24:31.000 --> 00:24:34.000
When I tasted the base before we put anything into it,

621
00:24:34.000 --> 00:24:35.000
it's much spicier.

622
00:24:35.000 --> 00:24:37.000
And what really helps to melt it out,

623
00:24:37.000 --> 00:24:40.000
one is the coconut milk, of course.

624
00:24:40.000 --> 00:24:41.000
Yeah.

625
00:24:41.000 --> 00:24:43.000
But also the sweetness of the tomatoes helps to

626
00:24:43.000 --> 00:24:45.000
just knock it on the head a little bit.

627
00:24:45.000 --> 00:24:47.000
So it makes it a lot more,

628
00:24:47.000 --> 00:24:50.000
most I mentioned, or it's just spice.

629
00:24:50.000 --> 00:24:52.000
But it's the right amount of coconut milk.

630
00:24:52.000 --> 00:24:54.000
So it doesn't taste like I've got loads of coconut milk in it.

631
00:24:54.000 --> 00:24:57.000
What I can taste is the muscle and the flavour.

632
00:24:57.000 --> 00:25:02.000
But it's just like when you cook any kind of muscle and white wine,

633
00:25:02.000 --> 00:25:05.000
white wine dish, the muscles have to be at the forefront of that.

634
00:25:05.000 --> 00:25:07.000
They bring so much flavour.

635
00:25:07.000 --> 00:25:09.000
And this is such a lovely Friday night dinner,

636
00:25:09.000 --> 00:25:12.000
or part of a starter when you're hosting people,

637
00:25:12.000 --> 00:25:14.000
you get your hands involved,

638
00:25:14.000 --> 00:25:16.000
you get a little bit messy,

639
00:25:16.000 --> 00:25:17.000
it tastes incredible.

640
00:25:17.000 --> 00:25:19.000
Go great with the white wine.

641
00:25:19.000 --> 00:25:20.000
Just, yeah.

642
00:25:20.000 --> 00:25:21.000
Exactly how I like to eat.

643
00:25:21.000 --> 00:25:24.000
Or, you know, sitting outside in the sunshine,

644
00:25:24.000 --> 00:25:27.000
eating this on a sort of summer's day with the absolutely.

645
00:25:27.000 --> 00:25:28.000
Absolutely.

646
00:25:28.000 --> 00:25:29.000
Brilliant.

647
00:25:29.000 --> 00:25:30.000
The sun's just kind of setting

648
00:25:30.000 --> 00:25:32.000
and you've just got loads of curry muscles,

649
00:25:32.000 --> 00:25:33.000
anything that's perfect.

650
00:25:33.000 --> 00:25:34.000
That being in trance out.

651
00:25:34.000 --> 00:25:35.000
Oh yeah.

652
00:25:35.000 --> 00:25:38.000
So one of our viewers has got a question for you.

653
00:25:38.000 --> 00:25:42.000
The question is from Janie Sox 87,

654
00:25:42.000 --> 00:25:43.000
I want a great name.

655
00:25:43.000 --> 00:25:46.000
If you could only use three ingredients for the rest of your life,

656
00:25:46.000 --> 00:25:48.000
what would you choose?

657
00:25:48.000 --> 00:25:49.000
That's good.

658
00:25:49.000 --> 00:25:53.000
I think that's a really tough one.

659
00:25:53.000 --> 00:25:57.000
I think fennel seeds up there,

660
00:25:57.000 --> 00:25:58.000
they go into a lot of things.

661
00:25:58.000 --> 00:25:59.000
They're not in this,

662
00:25:59.000 --> 00:26:02.000
but any meat-based curry,

663
00:26:02.000 --> 00:26:05.000
they're very abundant in, in the base.

664
00:26:05.000 --> 00:26:08.000
But also when you look at other cuisines,

665
00:26:08.000 --> 00:26:10.000
pork and fennel in Italian,

666
00:26:10.000 --> 00:26:13.000
it's just made for it, isn't it?

667
00:26:13.000 --> 00:26:15.000
And I use it in everything.

668
00:26:15.000 --> 00:26:16.000
I use it in desserts.

669
00:26:16.000 --> 00:26:17.000
There's a lovely dessert in there.

670
00:26:17.000 --> 00:26:21.000
Fennel pairs with a ricotta and cardamom ice cream.

671
00:26:21.000 --> 00:26:23.000
Oh, it's one of my favourite recipes in there.

672
00:26:23.000 --> 00:26:26.000
The fennel just adds this whole new level to it.

673
00:26:26.000 --> 00:26:28.000
Decent tomatoes.

674
00:26:28.000 --> 00:26:29.000
Decent right tomatoes.

675
00:26:29.000 --> 00:26:31.000
I think they just change a dish.

676
00:26:31.000 --> 00:26:33.000
Whether it's a curry like this,

677
00:26:33.000 --> 00:26:35.000
where you're building it into the flavour,

678
00:26:35.000 --> 00:26:38.000
or it's a really fresh salad,

679
00:26:38.000 --> 00:26:41.000
where they are the hero ingredient.

680
00:26:41.000 --> 00:26:42.000
I think they're beautiful.

681
00:26:42.000 --> 00:26:43.000
And then limes,

682
00:26:43.000 --> 00:26:45.000
they go into so many dishes to add acidity,

683
00:26:45.000 --> 00:26:48.000
which I think lifts everything.

684
00:26:48.000 --> 00:26:52.000
We get through so many limes every week in our houses.

685
00:26:52.000 --> 00:26:55.000
I'm probably a bit too much,

686
00:26:55.000 --> 00:26:58.000
but I'm not great for my stomach.

687
00:26:58.000 --> 00:27:00.000
Limes, fennel and tomato.

688
00:27:00.000 --> 00:27:01.000
Amazing.

689
00:27:01.000 --> 00:27:03.000
Well, that's very interesting to hear.

690
00:27:03.000 --> 00:27:05.000
It's been absolutely pleasure having you on the recipe today.

691
00:27:05.000 --> 00:27:06.000
Thank you.

692
00:27:06.000 --> 00:27:07.000
I had an absolute blast.

693
00:27:07.000 --> 00:27:08.000
Cheers.

694
00:27:08.000 --> 00:27:09.000
Cheers.

695
00:27:09.000 --> 00:27:10.000
Let's have a look.

696
00:27:33.000 --> 00:27:36.000
You
