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Hey everybody, stay tuned because if you want to have your life changed, this is going to do it.

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You might think, by the way, that you're living on the edge for Christ.

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We're going to ask you to open up your heart and mind and take in what we're about to bring to you.

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It's going to blow your mind.

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So we're sitting down right now with two people that I would say probably a couple of months ago

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an assistant of mine said, you've got to see this.

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And it was a video that he showed me and it was Rocky Coyle speaking to either a podcast group or no group at all.

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But he was addressing the camera about his life's experience with he and his wife, Debbie, on adoption.

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And that immediately grabbed my attention because adoption is part of our life as well in my household.

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And so, Rocky and Debbie, it's great to have you with us right now.

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It's an honor to have you.

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And hopefully you guys are okay settling in.

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You just come out from the East Coast and you're a three-hour difference.

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But we're going to abuse you for a little bit.

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It's all right.

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We're glad to be here.

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We're glad to have you.

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So a little bit of background so our audience knows who you guys are and how you came about.

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Of course, you've got to talk about some baseball for us.

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But to lay the foundation, how did you guys meet and your relationship with the Lord?

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And then we'll dive into really the heavy lifting of this program, and that is this topic of adoption.

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So who are you guys?

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Okay.

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Then why don't you start where we met?

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So we met at the University of Arizona.

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Go Wildcats.

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And we met and married within nine months.

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Why wait?

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If you know, you know.

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Yeah, there you go.

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So we met and married in nine months, our junior year.

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And then we were going to wait several years to have children.

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Two months later, I'm pregnant.

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So that was the beginning of God going, you thought that you were in charge.

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Let me explain to you how this works.

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That's right.

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So anyway, so we had Josh, and Josh is 43 now.

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We have also a 37-year-old biological daughter, and then the five adopted.

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So that began my journey with Rocky.

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I am from New Jersey.

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My husband landed in New Jersey by third grade.

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My parents from Indiana in the military.

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My dad was.

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So I grew up in New Jersey in a small Southern Baptist church where I came to know the Lord.

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And but my husband always tells me, he goes, you don't sound like you're from Jersey, but you have the attitude.

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So I know that.

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So I go, well, I can't deny that.

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So, but being married with Rock has been an adventure.

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Being a baseball wife was a very interesting season.

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And we met a lot of really interesting people, got to go to a lot of really neat places.

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And so it's been good.

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44 years and we're married and hanging in there.

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So for me, I grew up in Phoenix, Arizona, and I grew up in a large family.

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My dad was a coach.

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He played basketball at the University of Arizona.

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all my brothers are over six i got my mom's height and her looks hopefully but um because i was

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shorter but so um but i three sport letterman my dad was a coach amazing amazing guy he was uh the

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oldest living member of the university of arizona basketball program just he just passed away uh

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what about a year and a half ago now and so he was an amazing amazing man and uh i came to faith

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through my dad was a coach.

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We weren't Christians.

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And through Fellowship of Christian Athletes.

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Fellowship of Christian Athletes is the reason my whole family knows Jesus Christ.

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My dad in his 40s, he gave his life to the Lord.

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And then he started sharing the gospel,

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Romans Road.

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And I had never heard, I didn't understand.

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I thought I was a good guy.

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raised Roman Catholic, kind of.

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But I just thought, hey, if you do good things, you do those

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types of things.

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But my dad shared with me about what it meant to be a sinner.

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And I, oh, dad,

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you know, I, you know, I'll be okay.

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And, you know, I'm a good guy.

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I was a guard, obviously, but I played basketball, baseball, and football.

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I was, I was going up for a shot and I broke my hand.

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I wasn't in control of my life.

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The doctor said that he might not play sports again.

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It was that bad of a break?

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I smashed it really bad.

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It was a bone that they said could, you know, possibly affect your career.

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And I really had a desire to play baseball, you know, but I was playing football.

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And so I was in high school.

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I'm like, you know, we won the state championship in football.

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I'm a running back.

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It was all that stuff.

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It was all about, you know, you're the guy on campus.

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And then all of a sudden I was a nobody.

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And then so even though I didn't know how to pray and I didn't know how to understand

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the word of God and all that.

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But my dad had shared those scriptures with me and I saw the

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change in my father.

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It wasn't that he became perfect.

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I just saw a brokenness in him.

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I was in that doctor's office and I said, Lord Jesus, you know, if you're real, come into my

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heart.

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And, you know, my life has never been the same.

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He transformed me.

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And I didn't always

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understand, but there was that small voice within me that later on I understood through adoption,

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all that.

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But I just knew that he was real.

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And people will go, how do you know God's real?

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I go,

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he changed my life.

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And the real thing, the foundation of it really was my father.

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Ever

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since I was a little boy, he was a gold gloves boxer.

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He was a basketball player.

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He was a man's

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man.

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But even as a little boy, my dad, the first time I was in Little League, I started playing,

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if you ever saw the movie Sandlot.

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Of course.

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Yeah, that movie is my favorite.

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But our- Absolutely share that with you.

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You know what I mean?

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Absolutely.

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So I had a field like that growing up.

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And I was the ninth boy born into my neighborhood.

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and they made a team.

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They were waiting for you.

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So I was in a diaper pretty much.

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playing outfield.

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Maybe that's home plate.

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And then my dad played with me.

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the time I played Little League, I was like a star.

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But I'm one of these guys that always wants

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everybody to like you and everything.

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But kids kind of started envying because I would be hitting

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home runs all the time.

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So really for most people to listen, the foundation of my life of being a

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dad and the foundation helped me later with adoption.

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My dad, I was playing that little

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league game and the whole year I couldn't get out.

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They didn't get me out.

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I'm up to bat

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and I foul tipped two strikes.

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Kid caught it.

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I'm out.

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Strike three.

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My first strikeout.

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I handled it fine.

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But when I went back to the dugout, my team was cheering that I got out,

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you know, like, yay, he finally got out.

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I'm like, what is that?

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I didn't later on, I figured maybe it was the parents of my own kids were teammates were

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cheering and they were mobbing the picture.

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We finally feel better about ourselves.

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It was like, it was, and so I didn't, it wasn't that I failed.

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Cause my dad taught me that's a

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part of life.

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But when I saw my buddies happy that I failed, I, at seven, I cried.

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My dad saw it.

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And because everybody's like, in your face, you know.

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And for anybody listening as a dad or anybody, or really in my heart, my dad's, I was in my room.

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My real name is Rock, R-O-C-K, which later on, you know, Peter the Rock, you know.

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That's actually your legal name?

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That's my real name, Rock.

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So my dad sat me down and he always used to put me in his lap and look me in the eyes.

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And in high school, I didn't like that.

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But that's another story.

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But he said, what are you crying about?

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I said, Dad, I failed you.

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I'm so sorry.

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And he said, look at me.

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He said, let me tell you something, Rock, before you start this thing called life.

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He goes, I don't care if you get four hits in a game.

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I don't care if you're an All-American.

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I don't even care if you play pro ball one day.

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He goes, I love you because you're my son.

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And so people say, why did you play so good the rest of your life?

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I said, because I had no fear.

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there's the foundation.

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And then later on when I left pro baseball to go into the ministry,

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my dad called me and he said, all these people, you're crazy.

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This is the peak of your career.

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This is what you, and I didn't understand a calling because I wasn't raised in

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church, but I knew that he was doing something with me.

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I didn't think I was smart enough.

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I probably had learning disabilities, all that stuff.

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last guy I thought in my head that I could possibly do this.

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And I called my dad and he told me, he

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said, hey, he said, do you remember when you were a little boy when you struck out?

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And I said, yeah,

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I think I remember that.

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He said, I'm as proud today as I was then for you to go and do what

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God called you to do.

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So you were fathered.

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I was.

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Excellent example.

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kids nowadays because I know everybody doesn't get that.

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in a role.

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And he's used me a lot for that.

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My ministry hasn't been on the front with everybody

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Mine has been in the, you know, on the fields, in the backgrounds where the hurt is.

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In the trenches where the wars are actually won.

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That's why it's amazing that we're here.

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Cause I'm like, I was actually praying a prayer after

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Well, my cousin was in, he's the guy that got released in the Taliban, released the American.

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It was recently, just got released.

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And I was praying for him, and I was saying, God, in this day and age we're living in, if you need me,

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I said, I'm down this dirt road doing lessons and raising these girls.

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I know there's a message of hope for people.

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And I said, please open the doors if you want me to.

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And then three days later, your people called me.

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And I was like, okay.

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God's amazing.

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So that's kind of our story.

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That's kind of who I am.

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And we're just servants.

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We just said, yes, that's all.

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Isn't it a joy?

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Isn't it a joy?

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I was sharing the Lord with someone not too long ago,

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and I had mentioned to them, for months they had been thinking this through.

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a momentary, will you accept Jesus?

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This was a methodical process.

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this individual, I said, it's like this.

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It's like Jesus becomes our master and we become his slave,

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but in that is true liberty and freedom.

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And that was a stumbling block because this guy was taking

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it seriously.

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He said, wait, did you say slave?

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And I said, yeah.

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And he goes, I can't do that.

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Well, I appreciate it as honesty.

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He said, I can't do that.

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And I go, well, okay, but you do have two

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sons, don't you?

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Teenage sons.

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And he goes, yeah, what does that have to do with anything?

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And I said,

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what would you do for your sons?

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And he said, I'd do anything for them.

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Now I got to tell you,

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I don't think this sharp on the spot, but it was the Holy Spirit because I was impressed later.

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And I said, well, who brought them into the world but you and your wife?

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Oh, that's true.

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Who pays

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for their food and the roof?

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Well, I do.

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Okay.

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But yet you're willing to die for them.

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Absolutely.

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Holy, drop of the hat.

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And I said, are you not a slave?

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He said, no.

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I said, let me ask you again.

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Are you not a slave to your sons?

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That's right.

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And you could see him get hit.

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That's right.

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A week later, he accepted the Lord.

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So, Debbie, what about you?

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What was your upbringing?

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So I became a believer.

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I went to a nice little small Southern Baptist church in New Jersey.

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There are no big Southern Baptist churches in New Jersey.

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You're Jewish or Catholic.

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Jewish or Catholic.

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So I became a Christian at nine.

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I'm sure I did not totally understand the whole kit and caboodle,

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but I got that I needed Jesus, that he loved me.

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And my parents got divorced when I was in eighth grade.

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So it changes the trajectory of your life.

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My mom did a great job of keeping us there, keeping us in church.

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And my brother and I know Jesus because my mother took us there or whatever.

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And then from there, I had been going to a school in New Jersey, broke up with a guy, and I just wanted to go do something else.

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And so I went out to the University of Arizona, and I knew this is where I was supposed to be.

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Well, my mom had a best friend that lived in Phoenix.

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Ah, okay.

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And so I looked at Arizona State and Arizona and Tucson and came home, still went back to school, applied, got in and went, OK, I'm out of here and never went back.

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I just I don't make a good.

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I may sound like it sometimes, but I don't make a good Jersey girl.

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So it's too too.

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I'm much more calm.

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Arizona's influenced by California.

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It's just got that nice, slower vibe.

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And it's too hot to get all dressed up in New Jersey.

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you dress up to go to the grocery store for pizza.

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That is true, huh?

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That's still.

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Yeah, so I'm a better Westerner than that.

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Interesting.

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So did you guys meet at ASU?

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At U of A.

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Oh, U of A, sorry.

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If you say ASU, that's like.

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Sorry, we'll edit that.

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We'll edit that.

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That's a devil.

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Yeah.

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That's a devil.

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We're wild cats.

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Yeah, wild cats.

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Is that where you guys?

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We did.

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We had a class together.

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And the first day of class,

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I had to take a non-majors class.

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I'm elementary ed.

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She was PE.

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Full PE teacher.

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They go over sometimes.

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So I had to take this one non-major class.

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And this other guy who was with me was there with.

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And 20 minutes class is in.

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And Rocky comes in 20 minutes late.

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And what was worse is the teacher goes, hey, Terry, his dad.

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He had been his dad's coach.

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Hey, Terry, are you in this class?

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And I go, oh, my gosh.

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So Rocky's like wanting to hide under the desk.

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But that was his first entrance into my life late.

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Should have been a sign of things to come.

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That's right.

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Just saying.

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But that started it.

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And we actually really got together through Fellowship of Christian Athletes.

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I was attending that, and so was he.

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And there was a guy, Rocky tells the story better, but there's this Gus.

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Gus, what is it?

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Big African-American kid.

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He's a football player.

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and she was looking, I mean, you know, I thought she was out of my league, you know, because,

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you know, that's always a good, you know, I was like, that's when you're relaxed because you're

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like, I just, I don't have a shot at this girl.

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So I'm just going to be nice.

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But she was there

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all the time.

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And I'd saw her on campus.

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I saw her on campus a few times, but this big dude,

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one of the football players, we had been kind of talking to each other and he just grabbed us both

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and he pushed us like close together.

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And he said, you guys would make a great couple.

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And I actually

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saw her blush, I go, I think this chick digs me a little bit, you know, or something.

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And that's

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how it started.

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You know, it was all real, everything was like really, you know, we got

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married at the Newman Center on campus, all that stuff.

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And, you know, one of our teachers did the

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wedding.

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And so, you know, so, you know, and so that's how we got married and then started,

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you know, pro ball.

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And, you know, poor Deb was in every, from Utica to all the different towns

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that we were in.

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But tell about how your dad came back into your life.

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Yes.

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Well, yes.

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That's really huge.

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Very fun.

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My dad came back.

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He was never, like, gone.

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My dad flew for American Airlines, so I was used to my dad being gone.

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Yeah.

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And he could be gone for stretches.

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You're a teenager.

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That's normal for me.

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Whatever.

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Doesn't everybody do that?

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That's right.

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But my dad had moved to North Carolina.

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We were living in Alabama.

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and he said, hey, Rock, you know, there's a church here that's looking for a youth pastor.

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My church, are you interested?

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And so, Rock, he goes, yes.

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So, he applied for the job.

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And so, to let my dad and I come back together and my brother, who was actually living in L.A.,

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he got a job also.

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He worked for Siemens in L.A.

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Of course, sure.

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And he wanted to re-

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So, this was an opportunity for a hole in Debbie's heart to be-

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And so we moved to where her dad was so she could reconnect with her dad.

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And her brother came from California.

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Wow.

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Bo and I bought property next to each other.

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So we've been together for 30 years raising our kids.

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Really fun.

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How great.

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And then about six or seven years ago, my dad and his wife wanted to scale down and said,

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if that house ever comes on the other side of you, available.

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So now my dad lives here.

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This is like a Monopoly game.

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It's like crazy.

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It's crazy.

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Rachel, I'll take Park Avenue and James.

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All this dysfunction from across the world.

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And then my son, Josh, when he, Josh, actually, when he grew up, said, I will never come back to Hillsborough.

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That's North Carolina.

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In Hillsborough, North Carolina.

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I'm going out west because that's where I'm the happiest.

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So they did.

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They went to Vancouver, Washington, lived there for several years.

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But then God's funny.

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And they had an unexpected blessing of a baby boy that they thought they were done having children.

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and just really wanted to come back.

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So they came back, and he ends up in,

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we live in a cul-de-sac,

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and he bought the house that went up for sale

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on the cul-de-sac.

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So it's my dad, Rock, Rock and I,

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my brother, and now my son,

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and my oldest daughter.

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We own the cul-de-sac.

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And the city is going to rename the street.

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Yeah, right.

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My daughter, who's funny.

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Oil lane.

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Yeah, that's right.

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My daughter, who is a,

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our daughter, 37-year-old,

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our biological daughter,

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she's a dry humor girl.

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She goes, you guys now have a cul-de-sac.

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It's a cul-de-sac.

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You know, she calls it.

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Got it.

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And she goes, I'm not going to live in the cul-de-sac.

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You know, she's single, lives by herself.

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So the coiled cul-de-sac.

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So this dysfunction, it's cool to see her dad.

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You know, for me, it was huge because I, you know, as her husband, I saw the huge hole in her dad.

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And he became a Christian.

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Wow.

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And so they're believers.

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And here's the, this isn't funny, but now her mom lived in New Jersey.

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her husband died and she moved by us.

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And then unfortunately she had a terrible fall.

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And now we have all the girls and her mom lives with us now.

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And it's the other day I was driving

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out of the driveway and I look up and there's Debbie.

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So you adopted your parents.

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Yeah.

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So

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we have another girl, dude.

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I, I, that's why it's good to talk to you because I need some men in my

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life.

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You know what I mean?

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No, but I just, but she, um, it's like, I want to go in the backyard

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and beat my chest.

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Yeah.

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Eat some dirt.

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Yeah, say yes to the dress.

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I can only handle so long, you know.

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But anyway, I look outside, and there's Debbie's mom, her dad, and his wife,

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and they're sitting around talking about, you know, the Lord and stuff.

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Wow.

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So it's like, God, you're an amazing person.

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My testimony probably is more, I really believe that in restoration.

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It may take years, but I believe that God's desire,

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even in the worst of the worst is restoration.

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And when it is, it's very sweet.

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It's not perfect.

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No.

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And it doesn't take away the mess.

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But restoration with him is amazing.

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I'm so grateful for you saying that because...

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Yes.

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I so agree with that,

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that when Paul says in 2 Corinthians 5

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that God has given us the ministry of reconciliation

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because we have been reconciled to Christ through him,

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that the natural Christian action, you don't have to be Billy Graham, you don't have to be

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the natural Christian spirit-led act is to go about making reconciliation among friends and

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family or whoever.

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And that is just such a manifestation of the Holy Spirit.

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And you're

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Right.

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It's not perfect.

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It's messy.

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But the thing is, as imperfect as we are,

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that ministry of reconciliation is a divine call and it's upon every Christian.

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Nobody can be

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watching this program right now and say, well, that's the call for Debbie.

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No, no, no.

512
00:20:34.379 --> 00:20:34.580
If you

513
00:20:34.700 --> 00:20:43.200
claim to know Jesus, then the words that you use, the actions that you take are all wrapped up with

514
00:20:43.200 --> 00:20:45.086
the bow of reconciliation.

515
00:20:46.029 --> 00:20:46.831
And that matters.

516
00:20:46.871 --> 00:20:49.820
If you go to a restaurant or if you're with family,

517
00:20:49.900 --> 00:20:54.837
if it's Christmas or you're at a Dodger game, you know people are watching.

518
00:20:54.978 --> 00:20:55.680
You bear the name

519
00:20:55.740 --> 00:20:56.322
of Christ.

520
00:20:56.523 --> 00:20:57.586
And what's the whole point?

521
00:20:58.469 --> 00:20:59.473
I've been redeemed.

522
00:21:00.276 --> 00:21:01.420
He has reconciled me.

523
00:21:03.200 --> 00:21:10.020
And so my mission, all of our mission in life is, well, Paul told Timothy, do the work of an

524
00:21:10.040 --> 00:21:10.562
evangelist.

525
00:21:10.582 --> 00:21:15.340
We're not all evangelists, but we are to do the work of an evangelist, which I absolutely

526
00:21:15.400 --> 00:21:15.541
love.

527
00:21:15.822 --> 00:21:17.487
This is a good point for us to pivot.

528
00:21:18.812 --> 00:21:20.157
And please, let me say this.

529
00:21:20.458 --> 00:21:21.160
You guys are probably

530
00:21:21.280 --> 00:21:26.617
so well-schooled in this, but I'm thinking we want to talk about adoption.

531
00:21:26.657 --> 00:21:27.420
We want to talk about

532
00:21:28.925 --> 00:21:31.113
your experience because it's such a great example.

533
00:21:31.174 --> 00:21:32.800
And yet at the same time, please do

534
00:21:33.723 --> 00:21:39.300
me a favor and weave in your natural born children so I can know them too.

535
00:21:39.508 --> 00:21:39.780
Yes.

536
00:21:40.200 --> 00:21:50.180
Because those that are watching right now, there's going to be those who only have adopted child or children, or they have natural and adopted children.

537
00:21:52.383 --> 00:21:54.520
And before I turn you loose, I'll say this one final thing.

538
00:21:54.742 --> 00:21:56.120
We have an adopted granddaughter.

539
00:21:57.501 --> 00:22:03.440
And my daughter, when they adopted her, I mean, they were there.

540
00:22:03.520 --> 00:22:04.239
They cut the cord.

541
00:22:05.020 --> 00:22:05.495
Oh, wow.

542
00:22:05.801 --> 00:22:06.398
That's so cool.

543
00:22:06.926 --> 00:22:07.520
It was amazing.

544
00:22:08.003 --> 00:22:08.153
Amen.

545
00:22:08.722 --> 00:22:12.480
In fact, that arrangement was made while the young mother was pregnant.

546
00:22:13.361 --> 00:22:19.240
That said, what's amazing is people will say to us today,

547
00:22:19.541 --> 00:22:22.180
I think she's going to be 16 in a week or two.

548
00:22:23.381 --> 00:22:26.300
People will say to us, oh, what a nice family.

549
00:22:26.700 --> 00:22:28.499
And boy, is that your granddaughter?

550
00:22:29.181 --> 00:22:30.459
She looks just like you guys.

551
00:22:30.641 --> 00:22:31.919
And we're like going, oh yeah, hey.

552
00:22:32.441 --> 00:22:35.220
We don't even remember that she was adopted.

553
00:22:35.740 --> 00:22:36.899
People will remind us.

554
00:22:37.042 --> 00:22:37.880
Does that make sense to you?

555
00:22:38.342 --> 00:22:43.640
it's like wait oh yeah yeah she was adopted it's like but it comes down to who adopted who

556
00:22:44.262 --> 00:22:50.080
because again going back to that slavery of love it's that uh you know we'll die for her yes and

557
00:22:50.140 --> 00:22:57.500
so for me as believers for us yes we forget we weren't we weren't exactly yes we were born again

558
00:22:57.600 --> 00:23:03.077
into the family of god but being born again into the family of god not born born again yes that

559
00:23:03.980 --> 00:23:04.903
comes from adoption.

560
00:23:05.264 --> 00:23:07.409
Book of Romans tells us that God adopts us.

561
00:23:07.890 --> 00:23:09.575
So here's the push.

562
00:23:12.380 --> 00:23:19.720
Tell us about your remarkable, awesome adoption calling by God and the ministry that you have.

563
00:23:20.820 --> 00:23:21.763
It's really powerful.

564
00:23:21.944 --> 00:23:27.320
I mean, sometimes I look back and I'm amazed because God's so amazing.

565
00:23:27.820 --> 00:23:33.520
Anybody who's listening, if you just learned his voice from when that first time he spoke to you,

566
00:23:33.882 --> 00:23:37.460
And when he tells you to do something, it might be scary.

567
00:23:37.782 --> 00:23:38.679
It might look hard.

568
00:23:39.480 --> 00:23:44.400
But when you follow and you're obedient, the results of it are unbelievable.

569
00:23:44.801 --> 00:23:45.819
It's so powerful.

570
00:23:46.521 --> 00:23:47.340
Don't be afraid.

571
00:23:47.761 --> 00:23:48.939
Just step and do it.

572
00:23:49.560 --> 00:23:54.100
And for us, it was like that, you know, because it was, you know, first of all, our children,

573
00:23:54.260 --> 00:24:00.440
Josh, my son, Josh, who's 43, he's, that's our natural, he was our firstborn.

574
00:24:01.101 --> 00:24:10.620
And he's been, he actually, part of him coming to North Carolina back again was he wanted to be a big brother to my, to his, it almost chokes me up.

575
00:24:11.504 --> 00:24:13.520
Because that's, you know, he wanted, he's like that.

576
00:24:13.700 --> 00:24:15.860
He gives them a hard time and he loves them and, you know.

577
00:24:15.980 --> 00:24:16.820
That's what big brothers do.

578
00:24:16.840 --> 00:24:17.420
And that's what they do.

579
00:24:17.660 --> 00:24:19.440
They give some hard time.

580
00:24:20.684 --> 00:24:23.740
One of my daughters says, she goes, that's all he does.

581
00:24:24.224 --> 00:24:25.880
He teases and I go, that's wrong.

582
00:24:25.980 --> 00:24:26.860
You only have one.

583
00:24:27.386 --> 00:24:27.759
One is enough.

584
00:24:27.801 --> 00:24:28.600
That's exactly right.

585
00:24:28.642 --> 00:24:29.120
One is enough.

586
00:24:29.809 --> 00:24:30.640
Some day you're going to miss it.

587
00:24:30.740 --> 00:24:31.100
Yeah, I said that.

588
00:24:31.100 --> 00:24:31.640
And he's like that.

589
00:24:31.660 --> 00:24:32.418
He's a man of character.

590
00:24:32.720 --> 00:24:33.499
He's a man of integrity.

591
00:24:33.780 --> 00:24:39.380
And I remember one of the reasons I left professional baseball, I was playing and we were playing the Tigers.

592
00:24:39.921 --> 00:24:43.700
And, Debbie, they try to catch up to you when you're in pro ball.

593
00:24:43.880 --> 00:24:45.140
You know, it's really hard on families.

594
00:24:45.381 --> 00:24:47.200
And Joshua was just about ready to start kindergarten.

595
00:24:48.903 --> 00:24:50.280
And, you know, I was his guy, you know.

596
00:24:50.321 --> 00:24:50.857
Of course.

597
00:24:51.461 --> 00:24:54.260
And so I'm going to go to the salad bar to get something.

598
00:24:54.440 --> 00:24:57.980
And I was walking away and he's screaming, Daddy, are you leaving again?

599
00:24:58.623 --> 00:25:00.431
and he was holding onto my pants, my Levi's.

600
00:25:03.161 --> 00:25:05.140
And I just turned around and looked at him and I was like,

601
00:25:07.025 --> 00:25:08.620
and that's when God started working in my heart.

602
00:25:08.920 --> 00:25:13.820
One of the reasons I left baseball was I needed to be his dad, you know?

603
00:25:16.142 --> 00:25:19.620
And so I didn't know he was going to choke me up like that, but he's,

604
00:25:20.281 --> 00:25:24.660
so I remember seeing his face and I was like, wow.

605
00:25:24.920 --> 00:25:27.680
And I was playing a sport that everybody was telling you you're great.

606
00:25:28.763 --> 00:25:34.140
And so, and I know it's maybe not for everybody what happened, but God started working in my heart.

607
00:25:34.200 --> 00:25:38.380
He was beginning with the ministry part, but it was about really being a dad.

608
00:25:39.160 --> 00:25:50.480
And so next spring training, you know, I went in and I got my release and I started, came back and a guy offered a place at an inner city church in Alabama.

609
00:25:50.841 --> 00:25:55.960
And I started helping him and working towards, you know, knowing more about how to be a pastor.

610
00:25:56.241 --> 00:25:57.447
I didn't know I was going to be a minister.

611
00:25:57.487 --> 00:26:00.200
But anyway, so Josh started kindergarten.

612
00:26:01.321 --> 00:26:04.858
So just to kind of go through it quick, you know, I was with him as Little League games.

613
00:26:04.898 --> 00:26:05.200
I was with

614
00:26:05.220 --> 00:26:06.685
him at everything.

615
00:26:07.448 --> 00:26:10.860
And so I take him, he gets a scholarship for baseball to NC State years later.

616
00:26:11.661 --> 00:26:13.832
And Josh's a man of few words, but they're powerful words.

617
00:26:14.374 --> 00:26:15.219
He's not like me.

618
00:26:15.279 --> 00:26:15.500
I'm more

619
00:26:15.540 --> 00:26:15.921
outgoing.

620
00:26:15.942 --> 00:26:16.564
So why is man?

621
00:26:16.845 --> 00:26:17.668
Yeah, he's like that.

622
00:26:18.310 --> 00:26:19.334
And so I'm walking out.

623
00:26:19.414 --> 00:26:21.080
You don't do things as a man

624
00:26:21.725 --> 00:26:22.310
to go later.

625
00:26:22.330 --> 00:26:23.580
Hey, we as men,

626
00:26:23.782 --> 00:26:24.980
men of God, we do it.

627
00:26:25.783 --> 00:26:27.420
We just do it because that's what God

628
00:26:27.601 --> 00:26:28.309
calls us to do.

629
00:26:28.874 --> 00:26:29.319
We don't want

630
00:26:29.642 --> 00:26:30.187
accolades.

631
00:26:30.571 --> 00:26:31.540
We're not looking for people

632
00:26:31.540 --> 00:26:33.079
to... And so he was

633
00:26:34.633 --> 00:26:35.320
in the dorm room

634
00:26:35.683 --> 00:26:37.580
and I'm leaving him in his dorm room and I'm walking

635
00:26:37.762 --> 00:26:37.903
out.

636
00:26:39.196 --> 00:26:39.560
Oh no.

637
00:26:39.863 --> 00:26:40.519
He goes, hey dad.

638
00:26:44.365 --> 00:26:45.259
He said, I know what you did.

639
00:26:48.226 --> 00:26:48.880
He goes, thanks.

640
00:26:49.900 --> 00:26:50.069
Wow.

641
00:26:50.784 --> 00:26:51.660
For being my dad.

642
00:26:52.323 --> 00:26:52.720
Wow.

643
00:26:54.802 --> 00:26:55.755
I'm driving down 40.

644
00:26:58.885 --> 00:26:59.900
It's raining inside.

645
00:27:00.160 --> 00:27:01.238
It's a sunny day.

646
00:27:01.440 --> 00:27:01.860
Was it easy?

647
00:27:01.980 --> 00:27:05.640
Did the enemy mock me when the A's won the World Series and they were my friends

648
00:27:06.328 --> 00:27:07.340
and the Blue Jays won it?

649
00:27:07.720 --> 00:27:10.760
The two teams I played for and I'm watching everybody on national television

650
00:27:11.504 --> 00:27:14.600
and I'm empty in garbage cans in the church in the inner city.

651
00:27:16.610 --> 00:27:16.799
Wow.

652
00:27:16.981 --> 00:27:19.380
The enemy's saying, you know, you're a failure.

653
00:27:20.103 --> 00:27:20.480
Wow.

654
00:27:20.700 --> 00:27:20.851
He did.

655
00:27:21.523 --> 00:27:22.700
The accuser of the brethren.

656
00:27:22.801 --> 00:27:24.159
He comes right after you, but yet.

657
00:27:27.006 --> 00:27:27.900
I was in the big leagues.

658
00:27:29.030 --> 00:27:29.378
I was.

659
00:27:30.471 --> 00:27:30.780
You see?

660
00:27:31.161 --> 00:27:31.638
Yeah, I see.

661
00:27:31.720 --> 00:27:33.000
And men that are listening, people are listening.

662
00:27:33.380 --> 00:27:36.038
It's worth laying it down as a man.

663
00:27:36.765 --> 00:27:36.892
Wow.

664
00:27:37.261 --> 00:27:38.180
It's worth laying it down.

665
00:27:38.501 --> 00:27:39.140
That's all I say.

666
00:27:39.320 --> 00:27:40.220
You know, you don't get that.

667
00:27:40.340 --> 00:27:46.620
Even now, down this little dirt road, a little shed, I do go home at night to my girls.

668
00:27:47.086 --> 00:27:47.720
and my family.

669
00:27:49.783 --> 00:27:51.860
And you pay the price, but it's worth it.

670
00:27:52.020 --> 00:27:52.540
It's worth it all.

671
00:27:53.141 --> 00:27:55.980
You pay the price, but God's dividends, you're a rich man.

672
00:27:56.240 --> 00:27:56.907
You're a rich family.

673
00:27:58.660 --> 00:28:00.220
So that's the relationship with Josh.

674
00:28:00.841 --> 00:28:03.000
And then you can talk about Rachel, too.

675
00:28:03.400 --> 00:28:05.700
Rachel's a little fireball, came in as a fireball.

676
00:28:07.043 --> 00:28:07.979
She's a lot of fun.

677
00:28:10.204 --> 00:28:11.140
She's nothing like Josh.

678
00:28:11.260 --> 00:28:14.900
She is more like Rocky and just a people person.

679
00:28:14.961 --> 00:28:15.798
She's a hairstylist.

680
00:28:16.420 --> 00:28:17.480
That's why I look good because of Rachel.

681
00:28:17.680 --> 00:28:18.059
That's right.

682
00:28:18.141 --> 00:28:18.477
Thanks, Rach.

683
00:28:19.023 --> 00:28:19.639
Good job, Rach.

684
00:28:21.382 --> 00:28:24.100
But she's a defender like Rocky.

685
00:28:25.842 --> 00:28:29.020
She was playing basketball in seventh grade, and she's short.

686
00:28:29.140 --> 00:28:31.940
She's 5'1 on a good day, but she's strong.

687
00:28:33.202 --> 00:28:37.620
And Rocky and they were coaching the middle school basketball team.

688
00:28:38.400 --> 00:28:42.880
The coach had a special needs daughter who just, you know,

689
00:28:42.940 --> 00:28:47.080
it's going to be five her whole life, but she loved Rachel and Rachel was really good to her.

690
00:28:47.922 --> 00:28:53.680
And, and then when they went to high school, uh, little Lena was being picked on by some of these

691
00:28:53.760 --> 00:28:55.247
big kids in the, in the high school.

692
00:28:55.327 --> 00:28:58.060
And Rachel five, one goes thumping up in people's chests

693
00:28:58.120 --> 00:29:01.367
and goes, do not ever, ever.

694
00:29:01.447 --> 00:29:03.291
If you do, I will take you out.

695
00:29:03.332 --> 00:29:03.893
But that's Rachel.

696
00:29:03.953 --> 00:29:04.835
And so Rachel,

697
00:29:07.460 --> 00:29:12.140
even with the girls, you know, she's allowed to talk trash about the girls, but don't you talk

698
00:29:12.221 --> 00:29:13.040
to talk about the girls.

699
00:29:13.321 --> 00:29:14.299
I don't think I get to do that.

700
00:29:15.524 --> 00:29:17.020
So she's very loyal like that.

701
00:29:17.205 --> 00:29:17.620
I love it.

702
00:29:17.860 --> 00:29:19.416
Yeah, so she's a fighter.

703
00:29:21.703 --> 00:29:23.379
We went through a lot of medical issues with her

704
00:29:23.562 --> 00:29:24.880
that God worked through.

705
00:29:25.400 --> 00:29:26.000
It was a miracle.

706
00:29:26.341 --> 00:29:28.580
She almost died of a blood clot and a bleed in the brain.

707
00:29:28.902 --> 00:29:29.338
She survived.

708
00:29:29.461 --> 00:29:30.179
At what age was that?

709
00:29:30.240 --> 00:29:30.305
16.

710
00:29:30.580 --> 00:29:30.644
16.

711
00:29:31.222 --> 00:29:33.340
They had just played for the state championship in volleyball,

712
00:29:34.301 --> 00:29:35.840
and they said she was going to die.

713
00:29:36.244 --> 00:29:38.000
I held her in my arms and almost lost her.

714
00:29:38.907 --> 00:29:39.360
What happened?

715
00:29:40.484 --> 00:29:45.400
Well, they know now that she has Crohn's disease and that causes blood clots.

716
00:29:45.480 --> 00:29:47.300
And she had gotten a virus, got dehydrated.

717
00:29:47.861 --> 00:29:48.698
But we didn't know that then.

718
00:29:49.061 --> 00:29:50.120
So we just thought she had a virus.

719
00:29:50.340 --> 00:29:52.060
And they kept saying, when did she hit her head?

720
00:29:52.180 --> 00:29:52.374
Never.

721
00:29:53.422 --> 00:29:55.280
But that's been a very hard journey.

722
00:29:55.541 --> 00:29:57.020
That's been a long, hard journey for Rachel.

723
00:29:57.580 --> 00:30:01.480
But I think, you know, you talked about just to kind of segue into the adoption pieces of it.

724
00:30:01.881 --> 00:30:09.499
There were things that God was doing to prepare us that I could not have adopted these girls when I was 20, in my 20s.

725
00:30:09.920 --> 00:30:15.920
I needed to know the normal progression of what child development looked like, and I had Josh and Rachel for that.

726
00:30:16.080 --> 00:30:26.840
And then because of Rachel's medical issues, we don't have a ton of medical issues with girls, but there's enough that I need to know what they're talking about and go through.

727
00:30:27.582 --> 00:30:28.285
We have Duke.

728
00:30:28.546 --> 00:30:29.571
Duke and UNC, great.

729
00:30:29.992 --> 00:30:31.840
These two huge world-renowned hospitals.

730
00:30:32.900 --> 00:30:40.960
And so it's been really, and again, I don't have tons of experience, but just I need them every now and then, Duke, to do some things with some of the girls.

731
00:30:41.621 --> 00:30:46.840
And so that was, I learned a lot about navigating some of these things and also trauma.

732
00:30:46.960 --> 00:30:58.260
So that brought trauma into Rachel's life and sort of changed the trajectory from her of what she was going to have to end up working through of almost dying at 16 and not wanting to look at it and blah, blah, blah.

733
00:30:58.400 --> 00:31:02.980
So with the girls also being older, adoptive, they remember where they come from.

734
00:31:03.060 --> 00:31:03.720
They remember China.

735
00:31:03.820 --> 00:31:04.640
They remember India.

736
00:31:05.241 --> 00:31:07.560
And there's just things to work through.

737
00:31:07.980 --> 00:31:14.340
You know, one of them remembers, you know, walking the streets of India for three days on her own, the monkeys.

738
00:31:14.620 --> 00:31:15.640
And, you know, that's trauma.

739
00:31:15.804 --> 00:31:16.399
That's scary.

740
00:31:16.621 --> 00:31:20.200
That's like never, never going to let that happen to myself again type of thing.

741
00:31:20.781 --> 00:31:24.360
And yet God spared her for that, you know, from some really bad things.

742
00:31:24.520 --> 00:31:30.040
So I think that Josh and Rachel, I had to have them and I kind of had to grow up myself.

743
00:31:30.802 --> 00:31:34.640
And then I think also even spiritually, I think there were things that I was doing.

744
00:31:34.821 --> 00:31:36.860
I was attending Bible study fellowship.

745
00:31:37.020 --> 00:31:40.060
I attended, I became a precept Bible study teacher.

746
00:31:40.140 --> 00:31:48.680
There was things spiritually because, you know, I've told the girls many a time, yeah, I've given you all the tools.

747
00:31:48.982 --> 00:31:50.159
I've taught you how to make your bed.

748
00:31:50.741 --> 00:31:53.100
I've taught you how to do dishes to cook, blah, blah, blah.

749
00:31:54.182 --> 00:31:59.720
But I also taught you about Jesus because, you know what, that's the only thing that when it matters, that's the only thing that matters.

750
00:31:59.820 --> 00:32:04.460
Because, yeah, I make your life comfortable here on earth, but I'm not here just to spend time with you here.

751
00:32:04.600 --> 00:32:04.998
That's right.

752
00:32:05.201 --> 00:32:07.060
I'd like to spend time with you in heaven forever.

753
00:32:07.860 --> 00:32:08.680
Most importantly, huh?

754
00:32:08.700 --> 00:32:08.880
Absolutely.

755
00:32:08.880 --> 00:32:09.518
Bottom of the word.

756
00:32:10.647 --> 00:32:11.559
K. Arthur Precept Ministry.

757
00:32:11.620 --> 00:32:11.920
Absolutely.

758
00:32:12.260 --> 00:32:12.738
Fantastic.

759
00:32:12.960 --> 00:32:17.340
Yeah, she, Debbie, was disciplined in that with our kids.

760
00:32:18.321 --> 00:32:20.620
And that's the foundation of that.

761
00:32:21.603 --> 00:32:22.340
Isn't that so true?

762
00:32:22.582 --> 00:32:25.280
And then our fifth, you know, when we go to adopt now.

763
00:32:26.381 --> 00:32:26.709
Oh, yes.

764
00:32:27.380 --> 00:32:28.239
So as we go through this.

765
00:32:28.581 --> 00:32:29.340
So adoption number one.

766
00:32:30.326 --> 00:32:30.899
How did it happen?

767
00:32:31.221 --> 00:32:32.760
So it has a long story.

768
00:32:33.300 --> 00:32:38.300
So Rachel is in, Rachel was a junior in high school.

769
00:32:39.684 --> 00:32:42.600
And Josh was already out of the house and married.

770
00:32:43.061 --> 00:32:45.880
And I was thinking to myself, what am I going to be when I grow up now?

771
00:32:46.141 --> 00:32:46.800
Rachel's gone.

772
00:32:47.742 --> 00:32:49.580
And I could be a PE teacher if I wanted to be.

773
00:32:49.680 --> 00:32:50.580
I'm like, no, I'm not going to do that.

774
00:32:51.040 --> 00:32:52.897
So praying, praying for two years.

775
00:32:53.301 --> 00:32:55.160
And in the midst of it, I was working for Hallmark.

776
00:32:57.383 --> 00:32:59.340
Did you say Hallmark or Walmart?

777
00:32:59.845 --> 00:33:00.398
No, Hallmark.

778
00:33:00.661 --> 00:33:01.398
Hallmark, the cards?

779
00:33:01.660 --> 00:33:02.540
Yeah, the cards.

780
00:33:02.660 --> 00:33:03.600
I was working in Hallmark.

781
00:33:03.600 --> 00:33:03.685
Wow.

782
00:33:04.462 --> 00:33:05.680
And just part-time.

783
00:33:05.961 --> 00:33:13.680
And there was a woman that I knew, and she walks in with a little boy in a stroller, and he is Latino.

784
00:33:14.120 --> 00:33:15.356
And she says, I said—

785
00:33:15.786 --> 00:33:16.220
She's not.

786
00:33:16.788 --> 00:33:17.219
She's not.

787
00:33:17.880 --> 00:33:21.180
And he calls her mommy, so I said, what is this?

788
00:33:21.260 --> 00:33:24.840
And she tells me the story, and she goes, I'll call you later.

789
00:33:25.162 --> 00:33:28.900
So while she's talking to me, and I don't have a ton of these experiences.

790
00:33:29.200 --> 00:33:30.460
I just have very few.

791
00:33:31.061 --> 00:33:35.840
I hear God say, after praying for two and a half years, what am I supposed to do with myself?

792
00:33:36.401 --> 00:33:40.140
I hear God say, pay attention because this is what I have for you.

793
00:33:41.022 --> 00:33:41.716
And I go, okay.

794
00:33:42.341 --> 00:33:44.980
By the way, he doesn't have to say that very often in our lives.

795
00:33:45.140 --> 00:33:46.380
That's probably a good thing.

796
00:33:47.322 --> 00:33:49.140
When you hear that, there's a reason why.

797
00:33:49.842 --> 00:33:52.480
One mission enough can consume your entire life.

798
00:33:52.480 --> 00:33:52.590
Yes.

799
00:33:53.401 --> 00:33:56.080
So Rocky's course is working at night.

800
00:33:56.301 --> 00:33:57.299
He's teaching batting lessons.

801
00:33:58.262 --> 00:34:00.240
And I am not a night person, so I go to bed.

802
00:34:00.520 --> 00:34:06.500
So in the morning, we're hanging out, and I said, hey, Rocky, I told him what happened with this friend.

803
00:34:06.580 --> 00:34:10.200
And I said, Rocky, I go, what would you think of adopting?

804
00:34:10.901 --> 00:34:13.480
And he goes, this is too weird.

805
00:34:14.041 --> 00:34:17.460
Just yesterday, I was thinking to myself, I would love to adopt.

806
00:34:18.020 --> 00:34:19.319
Debbie will never go for it.

807
00:34:20.121 --> 00:34:21.360
Because we're almost 50 now.

808
00:34:21.461 --> 00:34:21.999
Our kids are gone.

809
00:34:22.060 --> 00:34:23.498
We're 49 when we start this process.

810
00:34:23.862 --> 00:34:26.620
And Rock needs two seconds.

811
00:34:26.780 --> 00:34:27.759
Debbie needs two years.

812
00:34:27.840 --> 00:34:28.640
Because that's who I am.

813
00:34:28.681 --> 00:34:29.238
I need a plan.

814
00:34:29.802 --> 00:34:35.980
I'm not a spur of the moment person I've married that same person we're like I mean yeah I can say

815
00:34:36.060 --> 00:34:42.320
let's go Lisa will say we need to pray about it and after we're done praying we need to plan it

816
00:34:42.561 --> 00:34:48.960
and then pray again that's right so we so we ended up doing so so that was so then I'm now I'm I'm

817
00:34:49.040 --> 00:34:54.380
all in and I'm doing whatever I can and and God pretty quickly shut down domestic for us we we

818
00:34:54.440 --> 00:34:58.840
did look at the foster care and I'm like no I just didn't you know you know when God's leading and

819
00:34:58.920 --> 00:34:59.462
that wasn't it.

820
00:34:59.943 --> 00:35:06.220
And so Rachel, who's now a freshman at NC State, she goes, Mom, have you ever thought

821
00:35:06.360 --> 00:35:09.928
about international, going to India?

822
00:35:10.409 --> 00:35:11.672
Oh, Rachel, no.

823
00:35:11.692 --> 00:35:13.617
It's too far.

824
00:35:14.198 --> 00:35:15.060
Too far, and I don't know

825
00:35:15.221 --> 00:35:15.622
anything.

826
00:35:15.702 --> 00:35:16.525
I don't know the language.

827
00:35:16.746 --> 00:35:17.548
Love the food.

828
00:35:17.569 --> 00:35:17.649
Yes.

829
00:35:18.090 --> 00:35:20.920
But that's, oh, you know, 10 different

830
00:35:21.040 --> 00:35:21.663
major languages.

831
00:35:21.683 --> 00:35:23.972
You picked the furthest place you could be in the world.

832
00:35:23.992 --> 00:35:25.960
Well, we, because we're old,

833
00:35:26.040 --> 00:35:27.725
we didn't fit into a lot of places.

834
00:35:28.487 --> 00:35:30.773
And so India was perfect for us.

835
00:35:31.656 --> 00:35:33.220
And so we ended up in India,

836
00:35:33.481 --> 00:35:37.040
but that was a real problem for Rocky because Rocky didn't want to go to India.

837
00:35:37.340 --> 00:35:41.820
That was all the terrorist stuff in India, you know, far away in the, you know, in your head.

838
00:35:42.122 --> 00:35:42.760
I totally get it.

839
00:35:42.780 --> 00:35:45.471
As a person, I was like, God, we can't go here.

840
00:35:45.511 --> 00:35:47.900
I work with these kids here and, you know, in America.

841
00:35:48.963 --> 00:35:52.520
And so that way I got, it's hard to admit as a man, but you're going, man, I don't want to go

842
00:35:52.540 --> 00:35:54.720
all the way over there, you know, in your flesh.

843
00:35:55.422 --> 00:35:56.079
Isn't that amazing?

844
00:35:56.567 --> 00:35:57.100
He was a pill.

845
00:35:57.280 --> 00:35:58.120
It's more than in your flesh.

846
00:35:58.140 --> 00:35:58.480
I get it, though.

847
00:35:58.521 --> 00:35:59.860
Which isn't like me normally.

848
00:36:00.043 --> 00:36:00.480
No, it's not.

849
00:36:00.601 --> 00:36:02.700
And I was like, why am I acting this way?

850
00:36:02.885 --> 00:36:03.020
Yeah.

851
00:36:03.320 --> 00:36:04.880
You know, because why can't we go here?

852
00:36:04.960 --> 00:36:09.080
You know, because you're thinking to yourself, long flight and, you know, those.

853
00:36:09.620 --> 00:36:11.820
Yeah, God, I'm willing to follow you anywhere.

854
00:36:11.962 --> 00:36:12.140
Yeah.

855
00:36:12.421 --> 00:36:13.620
Just make it comfortable.

856
00:36:13.960 --> 00:36:14.158
Easier.

857
00:36:15.125 --> 00:36:15.317
Easier.

858
00:36:15.382 --> 00:36:15.558
Right?

859
00:36:16.383 --> 00:36:16.891
Can you just.

860
00:36:18.121 --> 00:36:19.540
Can I watch the Dodgers from there?

861
00:36:19.701 --> 00:36:20.580
You know, I'm just kidding.

862
00:36:20.620 --> 00:36:31.080
So we launched into the process, and the lady sends me six little girls, and I just knew.

863
00:36:31.140 --> 00:36:32.369
I knew Swati was the one.

864
00:36:34.120 --> 00:36:39.640
And before she knew it, I looked at the picture, and I looked through all of them, and I said, this girl right here.

865
00:36:40.288 --> 00:36:40.500
Really?

866
00:36:41.043 --> 00:36:41.800
She had been burned.

867
00:36:42.720 --> 00:36:46.600
It's hard for me to talk, but burned and left to die on the side of the road.

868
00:36:46.682 --> 00:36:46.979
How old?

869
00:36:47.801 --> 00:36:50.120
They don't know, but she was like 13 pounds.

870
00:36:50.761 --> 00:36:51.951
They say she was two.

871
00:36:53.221 --> 00:36:54.579
I think she was closer to four.

872
00:36:54.740 --> 00:36:56.078
Yeah, because of all the neglect.

873
00:36:56.840 --> 00:37:00.060
But later on, we found out she saw her mother murdered.

874
00:37:01.140 --> 00:37:02.380
And she was just left.

875
00:37:02.480 --> 00:37:03.120
She had scabies.

876
00:37:03.240 --> 00:37:05.020
Lice was left on the side like nothing.

877
00:37:05.861 --> 00:37:10.120
You know what's tragic about what you're saying is I've had friends that have done mission work in India.

878
00:37:10.280 --> 00:37:10.390
Yeah.

879
00:37:11.621 --> 00:37:14.700
And it's hard for Westerners to believe, but what you're saying is not uncommon.

880
00:37:14.840 --> 00:37:14.909
No.

881
00:37:15.445 --> 00:37:16.440
You pull up in a cab.

882
00:37:16.740 --> 00:37:17.077
They're around.

883
00:37:17.301 --> 00:37:20.059
Americans, Californians don't even want to think about this.

884
00:37:20.380 --> 00:37:20.480
Yeah.

885
00:37:20.802 --> 00:37:22.560
No, it's everywhere you pull up in a car.

886
00:37:22.881 --> 00:37:25.120
They're coming up to your car and knocking the little, little tiny ones.

887
00:37:25.460 --> 00:37:27.800
For something, for water, for food, for something.

888
00:37:28.300 --> 00:37:28.396
Yes.

889
00:37:28.960 --> 00:37:33.980
So, so then I, we saw the picture and then, you know, God started working in my heart.

890
00:37:34.000 --> 00:37:35.640
Cause I'm like, I'm open.

891
00:37:35.821 --> 00:37:36.920
I said, Lord, just do whatever.

892
00:37:37.721 --> 00:37:38.820
But you need to tell the story.

893
00:37:39.002 --> 00:37:40.780
Cause he, you weren't that open.

894
00:37:41.044 --> 00:37:41.220
Yeah.

895
00:37:41.481 --> 00:37:47.580
And so Rocky had his little beat up forerunner and he had put the picture up on the forerunner

896
00:37:47.681 --> 00:37:49.280
and he's on the visor.

897
00:37:49.721 --> 00:37:55.440
And he's going with, I mean, we're on our way to doing this, but you can see he's like this.

898
00:37:55.940 --> 00:37:56.480
So then finish.

899
00:37:56.781 --> 00:37:58.320
Yeah, she's right.

900
00:37:58.620 --> 00:38:01.120
I mean, it's hard to admit as a man, I mean, in front of everybody.

901
00:38:02.002 --> 00:38:05.240
But it was, you know, God was working in my heart to do it.

902
00:38:06.202 --> 00:38:09.740
And I was driving down the road and the spirit of God was so strong.

903
00:38:09.880 --> 00:38:15.060
And I just said, I had to pull over and I just flipped that visor and I was looking at her picture.

904
00:38:15.482 --> 00:38:15.777
Wow.

905
00:38:17.522 --> 00:38:22.780
I said, if she needs a dad, I'll be her daddy.

906
00:38:24.667 --> 00:38:25.099
God heard you.

907
00:38:25.161 --> 00:38:25.600
Is that will?

908
00:38:26.863 --> 00:38:27.638
The changing of the will.

909
00:38:28.000 --> 00:38:28.557
Just say yes.

910
00:38:28.740 --> 00:38:28.849
Yes.

911
00:38:29.060 --> 00:38:32.720
And then I was like, I'll go to the, I don't care where I go.

912
00:38:32.902 --> 00:38:33.299
There you go.

913
00:38:33.720 --> 00:38:34.259
Isn't that amazing?

914
00:38:34.445 --> 00:38:34.580
Yeah.

915
00:38:34.741 --> 00:38:34.997
Yes.

916
00:38:36.286 --> 00:38:38.480
You can detonate a nuclear bomb somewhere on the planet.

917
00:38:38.660 --> 00:38:38.768
Yeah.

918
00:38:39.763 --> 00:38:41.260
And it can't change the will of a man.

919
00:38:41.911 --> 00:38:42.060
Yeah.

920
00:38:42.160 --> 00:38:42.959
The will of a woman.

921
00:38:43.221 --> 00:38:43.779
It can't happen.

922
00:38:43.861 --> 00:38:44.820
It doesn't have that power.

923
00:38:45.140 --> 00:38:45.231
No.

924
00:38:46.043 --> 00:38:47.200
Oh, it's a devastating power.

925
00:38:47.300 --> 00:38:48.280
It's a devastating power.

926
00:38:49.102 --> 00:38:51.760
But it's powerless against the changing of a man's will.

927
00:38:51.900 --> 00:38:55.260
Only God can be that nuclear agent in our soul.

928
00:38:56.028 --> 00:38:56.520
It's amazing.

929
00:38:57.343 --> 00:38:57.460
Yeah.

930
00:38:57.721 --> 00:38:59.280
So that's where it started.

931
00:38:59.381 --> 00:39:02.780
And then, so then it was, and let me tell you something, folks that are listening.

932
00:39:04.261 --> 00:39:11.100
Even when we came here, the amount of warfare for us to get here, I already know what that is because I've been in ministry.

933
00:39:11.200 --> 00:39:12.499
I mean, I've been a follower of Jesus.

934
00:39:13.460 --> 00:39:19.740
And God has always called me to speak truth, but the warfare, the amount of warfare for us.

935
00:39:20.165 --> 00:39:20.860
I know you do.

936
00:39:21.380 --> 00:39:22.299
But we hear this.

937
00:39:22.641 --> 00:39:23.920
But I'm telling you to get here.

938
00:39:23.920 --> 00:39:24.258
We hear this.

939
00:39:24.300 --> 00:39:29.600
It was like, even getting here today, I knew how to get here, and I went a wrong way.

940
00:39:30.120 --> 00:39:31.700
And I was like, what's going on?

941
00:39:31.820 --> 00:39:37.380
Then I got on your campus, and I couldn't get out of the other church campus because they had it all blocked.

942
00:39:37.560 --> 00:39:39.660
But anyway, but so the warfare.

943
00:39:39.880 --> 00:39:40.479
Like a twilight zone.

944
00:39:40.721 --> 00:39:45.118
The warfare to go get her was unbelievable.

945
00:39:46.343 --> 00:39:46.899
I can't imagine.

946
00:39:48.226 --> 00:39:49.560
It should have been like a year and a half.

947
00:39:50.001 --> 00:39:53.720
It was two and a half years, and we ran into everything from a strike in the city,

948
00:39:53.840 --> 00:39:55.320
which shut the government agencies down.

949
00:39:55.641 --> 00:39:57.000
Bribery in the government.

950
00:39:57.401 --> 00:39:58.091
It was just—

951
00:39:58.804 --> 00:39:59.100
All that.

952
00:39:59.180 --> 00:40:00.633
But she is a gem.

953
00:40:01.841 --> 00:40:03.400
She is Leah.

954
00:40:04.683 --> 00:40:06.100
So her name is Swati.

955
00:40:06.785 --> 00:40:08.720
We give you—we keep your country name.

956
00:40:09.844 --> 00:40:14.520
although although none of the girls know what their biological names were i mean their

957
00:40:14.881 --> 00:40:19.720
yeah biological mom's name but we keep your country name and then we get give you whatever

958
00:40:19.840 --> 00:40:24.540
we feel like god is is saying so because i already had a rachel i named her leah i felt like that was

959
00:40:24.560 --> 00:40:30.880
just from the given i had a leah so josh rachel and and leah and and rachel uh love each other

960
00:40:31.081 --> 00:40:36.860
there there's always rachel has always had a special connection with leah and uh and has tried

961
00:40:36.880 --> 00:40:37.644
to make her pretty.

962
00:40:37.724 --> 00:40:39.914
And when she came over, Leah liked to be a girl.

963
00:40:40.196 --> 00:40:40.617
Of course.

964
00:40:40.798 --> 00:40:41.160
And with the

965
00:40:41.160 --> 00:40:42.845
hairstyling, Rachel would mess with her.

966
00:40:43.326 --> 00:40:46.896
But it was really sweet.

967
00:40:46.916 --> 00:40:47.096
Yeah.

968
00:40:47.698 --> 00:40:48.400
When we went there,

969
00:40:48.960 --> 00:40:49.684
we finally got to go.

970
00:40:49.724 --> 00:40:50.668
We had to make two trips.

971
00:40:51.170 --> 00:40:53.340
That province, it's against the law to just get

972
00:40:53.340 --> 00:40:54.102
them in one trip.

973
00:40:55.988 --> 00:40:58.035
So, bro, I'm telling you something, man.

974
00:40:58.055 --> 00:40:59.740
It sounds like something California

975
00:40:59.800 --> 00:41:00.041
would do.

976
00:41:00.061 --> 00:41:01.186
So, yeah, exactly.

977
00:41:01.206 --> 00:41:04.320
So every province has a different laws like here, you know, like

978
00:41:04.320 --> 00:41:04.640
States.

979
00:41:05.400 --> 00:41:06.811
So it was so difficult.

980
00:41:08.120 --> 00:41:09.600
So we fly all the way to India.

981
00:41:10.402 --> 00:41:15.160
Our first time, we're already kind of intimidated, just kind of what's going on.

982
00:41:15.520 --> 00:41:19.398
Here's where these almost 50-year-old were running around India.

983
00:41:19.980 --> 00:41:22.980
And if you've ever been to India, if you haven't, there's something to that.

984
00:41:24.062 --> 00:41:27.740
We're going through this area, and we find this orphanage.

985
00:41:27.880 --> 00:41:32.320
And I know they're doing the best they can, but the kids don't have shoes.

986
00:41:32.860 --> 00:41:33.779
It's scabies, lice.

987
00:41:34.121 --> 00:41:34.905
They're sleeping on the floor.

988
00:41:34.925 --> 00:41:35.848
They have these little mats.

989
00:41:36.853 --> 00:41:38.640
And so anyway, they bring her,

990
00:41:39.782 --> 00:41:42.853
they bring her out and, you know, you're praying all this time.

991
00:41:43.014 --> 00:41:44.820
And those of you that are listening,

992
00:41:44.960 --> 00:41:50.000
you know, watching the, you know, the power of it, what God does, they bring her from around

993
00:41:50.140 --> 00:41:50.582
the corner.

994
00:41:50.862 --> 00:41:52.949
This is what we've been praying for forever.

995
00:41:53.992 --> 00:41:56.480
And she was just this, you know,

996
00:41:56.940 --> 00:41:59.508
scarred and just this tore apart.

997
00:42:00.190 --> 00:42:02.598
And, and I, you know, I'm a ball player.

998
00:42:02.638 --> 00:42:03.220
I'm a Christian.

999
00:42:04.305 --> 00:42:05.640
And I felt like this big.

1000
00:42:05.780 --> 00:42:06.200
That's right.

1001
00:42:07.081 --> 00:42:12.980
I just looked at her and I heard the Lord speak and say, this is the kingdom of God.

1002
00:42:13.669 --> 00:42:14.040
That's right.

1003
00:42:14.200 --> 00:42:14.696
Where you are.

1004
00:42:16.391 --> 00:42:16.537
Yep.

1005
00:42:16.940 --> 00:42:18.740
Where the broken and the hurting are.

1006
00:42:19.166 --> 00:42:19.360
Yeah.

1007
00:42:20.081 --> 00:42:21.538
And this was you before you knew me.

1008
00:42:22.183 --> 00:42:22.558
That's right.

1009
00:42:22.842 --> 00:42:23.439
Oh, so good.

1010
00:42:24.083 --> 00:42:25.340
You were broken and scarred.

1011
00:42:25.420 --> 00:42:26.099
You had no hope.

1012
00:42:26.481 --> 00:42:26.837
That's right.

1013
00:42:27.766 --> 00:42:29.260
And I just looked at her.

1014
00:42:29.763 --> 00:42:31.100
I had to lift her little face up.

1015
00:42:31.743 --> 00:42:35.060
because she was like, felt like nothing.

1016
00:42:35.705 --> 00:42:37.040
No reason for her to look up.

1017
00:42:37.180 --> 00:42:37.320
Right.

1018
00:42:37.540 --> 00:42:38.438
And I just looked at her.

1019
00:42:40.042 --> 00:42:40.499
See her bite?

1020
00:42:41.220 --> 00:42:41.680
Little girl.

1021
00:42:42.680 --> 00:42:47.540
And then the hardest thing, man, was we had to leave her to go back here.

1022
00:42:47.680 --> 00:42:49.300
And I knew she was getting the abuse.

1023
00:42:49.461 --> 00:42:50.980
Did they communicate to her that?

1024
00:42:51.122 --> 00:42:52.780
Did they somehow say they're going to come back?

1025
00:42:52.840 --> 00:42:55.700
We don't know what they could tell her because they said so many things.

1026
00:42:55.720 --> 00:42:56.260
We found out.

1027
00:42:56.803 --> 00:42:58.220
Yeah, that was a bad day.

1028
00:42:58.380 --> 00:42:58.979
That was a bad day.

1029
00:42:59.020 --> 00:42:59.958
But the day we left, man.

1030
00:43:00.142 --> 00:43:00.478
It was bad.

1031
00:43:00.600 --> 00:43:01.920
Remember how I didn't want to go there?

1032
00:43:02.242 --> 00:43:02.900
Yeah, I got it.

1033
00:43:03.163 --> 00:43:03.578
I got it.

1034
00:43:03.780 --> 00:43:05.179
And then I didn't want to leave.

1035
00:43:06.043 --> 00:43:07.760
And then I wanted to come back right away.

1036
00:43:07.900 --> 00:43:09.458
You wept all the way back to the States.

1037
00:43:10.101 --> 00:43:12.920
And then you're hearing babies crying on the plane, and I'm going, I didn't get.

1038
00:43:13.400 --> 00:43:16.200
And you knew you were, as a protector, that's my girl.

1039
00:43:17.104 --> 00:43:18.279
I did not want to leave her there.

1040
00:43:19.780 --> 00:43:23.540
And that was, in my life, of all the things besides death that people have loved,

1041
00:43:24.021 --> 00:43:25.560
that was one of the hardest days of my life.

1042
00:43:25.701 --> 00:43:26.899
And I don't share that a lot.

1043
00:43:27.903 --> 00:43:32.680
just the emptiness and the hurt of having to fly 16 hours back and leave that little girl.

1044
00:43:34.144 --> 00:43:34.500
In hell.

1045
00:43:34.783 --> 00:43:35.140
In hell.

1046
00:43:35.262 --> 00:43:35.478
Yes.

1047
00:43:35.720 --> 00:43:37.940
And so we came back, and then it was even longer.

1048
00:43:38.801 --> 00:43:40.860
It was supposed to be six weeks, and it was six months.

1049
00:43:42.226 --> 00:43:42.979
So we finally fought.

1050
00:43:43.160 --> 00:43:47.180
And then when we got there, even in India again, it still was a fight.

1051
00:43:47.301 --> 00:43:48.179
They didn't want to give her up.

1052
00:43:49.663 --> 00:43:52.200
So there's more to the story, but it's like we finally got her.

1053
00:43:52.641 --> 00:43:54.000
And then tell them about when we got on the plane.

1054
00:43:54.529 --> 00:43:55.240
We get on the airplane.

1055
00:43:56.105 --> 00:43:56.560
We have her.

1056
00:43:56.720 --> 00:43:56.960
It was at night.

1057
00:43:57.100 --> 00:43:59.720
All the flights out of India were at night.

1058
00:43:59.920 --> 00:44:00.960
So it's 2 a.m. in the morning.

1059
00:44:01.701 --> 00:44:04.180
And we sit there and we finally have her.

1060
00:44:04.440 --> 00:44:05.659
We're going to leave Delhi.

1061
00:44:06.124 --> 00:44:06.920
We're going to fly home.

1062
00:44:07.521 --> 00:44:08.599
And she's sitting in the middle of us.

1063
00:44:09.120 --> 00:44:16.540
And all of a sudden the captain gets on and says, you know, this is really unusual, but fog has settled in on the area.

1064
00:44:17.283 --> 00:44:19.139
And this woman sitting next to me is Indian.

1065
00:44:19.420 --> 00:44:21.460
She goes, there's no fog in January.

1066
00:44:21.601 --> 00:44:23.436
I looked, honey, you are.

1067
00:44:24.103 --> 00:44:24.738
sitting next to me.

1068
00:44:24.800 --> 00:44:25.740
You're with us today.

1069
00:44:25.801 --> 00:44:26.880
Let me tell you why there's fog.

1070
00:44:26.880 --> 00:44:28.800
I can't tell you how much I understand that.

1071
00:44:29.381 --> 00:44:30.760
And so Rocky and I looked at each other,

1072
00:44:30.980 --> 00:44:32.259
and Rocky grabs my hand and he goes,

1073
00:44:32.820 --> 00:44:35.180
in the name of Jesus, remove the fog.

1074
00:44:35.281 --> 00:44:36.277
And we were in the air in 20 minutes.

1075
00:44:37.020 --> 00:44:37.157
Boom.

1076
00:44:37.662 --> 00:44:37.960
I know.

1077
00:44:39.101 --> 00:44:41.520
And then I got sick on the way home, so it was brutal.

1078
00:44:42.160 --> 00:44:43.359
Well, Satan went from the fog.

1079
00:44:43.880 --> 00:44:46.020
Yes, he was so sick.

1080
00:44:46.060 --> 00:44:46.920
The fog didn't work.

1081
00:44:46.960 --> 00:44:47.740
I'll try the flow.

1082
00:44:48.403 --> 00:44:50.300
Leah was filling his water bottle.

1083
00:44:50.501 --> 00:44:51.260
With Indian water.

1084
00:44:51.280 --> 00:44:53.260
And I had told her, I go, don't touch my water bottle.

1085
00:44:53.400 --> 00:44:53.514
No.

1086
00:44:53.803 --> 00:44:55.279
It's like a zoo inside that bottle.

1087
00:44:55.480 --> 00:44:57.380
Oh, he was so sick, so sick.

1088
00:44:57.582 --> 00:44:57.937
Months.

1089
00:44:58.660 --> 00:44:59.330
So that was our first.

1090
00:45:00.400 --> 00:45:05.340
And also people, when folks are adopting, we are crying to people back in America,

1091
00:45:05.560 --> 00:45:07.300
pray, we're in the middle of warfare.

1092
00:45:07.721 --> 00:45:12.920
Oh, you know, it's like, I mean, it's a life or death here, you know?

1093
00:45:13.060 --> 00:45:15.039
And they're thinking, oh, they're having warfare.

1094
00:45:15.820 --> 00:45:17.418
Their hard drive's seized up.

1095
00:45:17.641 --> 00:45:19.400
Their power cord's not working.

1096
00:45:20.200 --> 00:45:20.580
Yeah, no.

1097
00:45:21.403 --> 00:45:26.100
no, I'm trying to pay this guy to release her, you know, and bribe him to get her out of there.

1098
00:45:26.220 --> 00:45:28.710
You know, we've always called it a ransom.

1099
00:45:28.751 --> 00:45:30.176
We have to hurry up.

1100
00:45:30.257 --> 00:45:31.020
I can't believe we're running

1101
00:45:31.060 --> 00:45:31.703
a long time.

1102
00:45:31.783 --> 00:45:33.309
No, no, I'm sorry.

1103
00:45:33.329 --> 00:45:34.714
This could go on for hours.

1104
00:45:35.015 --> 00:45:36.340
But you talk about, we actually,

1105
00:45:37.502 --> 00:45:43.780
I've been to Russia over 20 times and I learned from the first trip there regarding

1106
00:45:45.085 --> 00:45:48.820
church planting, I mean, it's sad, but you know this.

1107
00:45:49.260 --> 00:45:55.160
You literally have to keep a certain amount of money in your pocket for bribery in those

1108
00:45:55.240 --> 00:46:00.980
countries where they come to you and say, well, I could let you guys use this stage

1109
00:46:01.100 --> 00:46:07.840
for your service tonight, but I would have to have $20 and you got to go like this.

1110
00:46:08.940 --> 00:46:11.960
And I remember having our, ethically, I had our time with that.

1111
00:46:12.328 --> 00:46:12.437
Yes.

1112
00:46:12.560 --> 00:46:17.500
Until the Lord just smacked me and said, Jack, you're grumbling over 20 bucks.

1113
00:46:18.102 --> 00:46:20.420
That number one, I gave you for this trip.

1114
00:46:20.843 --> 00:46:22.200
It's my money, Jack.

1115
00:46:22.881 --> 00:46:27.360
And I am not going to let 20 bucks stand in the way of reaching hundreds of Russians right now.

1116
00:46:27.460 --> 00:46:27.820
That's right.

1117
00:46:28.241 --> 00:46:35.640
So I'm going to clarify this really quickly in case anybody's adopting from India and India sees this and gets really mad.

1118
00:46:36.326 --> 00:46:38.120
We did not pay any extra money.

1119
00:46:39.763 --> 00:46:41.500
Was there somebody asking for extra money?

1120
00:46:42.226 --> 00:46:42.458
Yes.

1121
00:46:43.000 --> 00:46:43.980
And the people that worked there.

1122
00:46:45.663 --> 00:46:49.960
I want to say this was all done on the up and up and that we did not know extra money.

1123
00:46:51.323 --> 00:46:54.060
At least not that we knew of, not from us.

1124
00:46:54.481 --> 00:46:57.380
I just want to clarify that in case somebody sees that in India.

1125
00:46:57.760 --> 00:47:03.760
And I want to clarify that my situation in Russia was completely illegal.

1126
00:47:04.062 --> 00:47:07.720
It turned, there was mafia charging us to meet on those streets.

1127
00:47:08.061 --> 00:47:08.540
Oh yeah, they were.

1128
00:47:08.700 --> 00:47:17.140
And it turned out that the Russian police department got involved and they actually helped us get the mafia off of our back because of what, they were extorting us.

1129
00:47:17.220 --> 00:47:20.360
But that said, with the time remaining, we have like 10 minutes.

1130
00:47:20.661 --> 00:47:22.320
I know that's, that's almost sinful.

1131
00:47:23.000 --> 00:47:24.260
Go through, that's, that's one young lady.

1132
00:47:24.260 --> 00:47:25.518
That was one, that was the first one.

1133
00:47:25.760 --> 00:47:31.060
And then when we got back, we, Savita, who's the one we shared with you.

1134
00:47:31.507 --> 00:47:31.679
Yes.

1135
00:47:31.720 --> 00:47:33.200
Savita was the next one.

1136
00:47:33.200 --> 00:47:33.919
And she was in Delhi.

1137
00:47:34.682 --> 00:47:36.859
Leah was in southern part of India.

1138
00:47:37.501 --> 00:47:38.533
She was in Hyderabad.

1139
00:47:39.760 --> 00:47:41.340
So now you're up on top.

1140
00:47:41.620 --> 00:47:45.938
So Savita, I saw her picture online at the site.

1141
00:47:46.480 --> 00:47:49.840
And I said, Debbie, this looks like, and she goes, no way she's still there.

1142
00:47:49.840 --> 00:47:50.600
She's so beautiful.

1143
00:47:51.143 --> 00:47:51.660
We called.

1144
00:47:52.521 --> 00:47:53.418
They said she's available.

1145
00:47:54.482 --> 00:47:55.720
And so then we started.

1146
00:47:55.800 --> 00:48:00.680
Right after we got back, we started another process to go get Savita in Delhi.

1147
00:48:01.440 --> 00:48:05.940
And so we came back, started raising the money, doing the paperwork.

1148
00:48:06.602 --> 00:48:07.780
Debbie is amazing.

1149
00:48:09.002 --> 00:48:09.900
She's a superstar.

1150
00:48:10.200 --> 00:48:14.680
It's paperwork and labor and hard work to get all that stuff done.

1151
00:48:15.201 --> 00:48:16.520
Don't let it overwhelm you, man.

1152
00:48:16.540 --> 00:48:17.320
It's worth the fight.

1153
00:48:17.820 --> 00:48:21.960
So then we fought, and we went back to get her probably a year later, right?

1154
00:48:22.345 --> 00:48:23.100
No, not even a year.

1155
00:48:23.140 --> 00:48:23.660
Not even a year.

1156
00:48:23.680 --> 00:48:25.218
Well, literally a year, yeah.

1157
00:48:25.783 --> 00:48:27.980
And then we did the Chinese girls.

1158
00:48:28.060 --> 00:48:28.880
We have three from China.

1159
00:48:29.401 --> 00:48:32.987
One of the first ones who's on the video with Rocky, Chi Chi.

1160
00:48:33.007 --> 00:48:37.695
Chi Chi and Savita are the only ones that we have kept their country names.

1161
00:48:37.795 --> 00:48:38.777
Chi Chi is Chi Chi.

1162
00:48:38.957 --> 00:48:39.999
She is not Tabitha.

1163
00:48:40.119 --> 00:48:40.800
She is a Chi Chi.

1164
00:48:40.960 --> 00:48:42.845
Her name was Ling Chi.

1165
00:48:42.865 --> 00:48:44.007
They gave him the first name.

1166
00:48:44.689 --> 00:48:47.235
Whoever came in that year, they gave him a last name.

1167
00:48:47.636 --> 00:48:49.420
Then we took that off and her name was Chi.

1168
00:48:49.703 --> 00:48:50.200
She's hilarious.

1169
00:48:50.660 --> 00:48:54.560
But she came first, and she, there are so many stories about Chi Chi.

1170
00:48:56.045 --> 00:48:59.900
She was, when we adopted her, the funny story, real quick, we can do it.

1171
00:48:59.940 --> 00:49:01.240
Mark, it's like a funny story.

1172
00:49:01.662 --> 00:49:03.660
I had to go do paperwork with whatever.

1173
00:49:04.060 --> 00:49:05.000
And so Rocky had her.

1174
00:49:05.120 --> 00:49:09.320
They'd gone to the pool, came back from the pool, and it was a kitchenette thing.

1175
00:49:09.481 --> 00:49:10.399
First of all, she's in the pool.

1176
00:49:10.801 --> 00:49:12.100
She dove in the pool in the deep end.

1177
00:49:12.161 --> 00:49:12.740
She tried to drown it.

1178
00:49:12.740 --> 00:49:15.480
She jumped in, and I was walking, and I go, do you know how to swim?

1179
00:49:15.740 --> 00:49:16.620
She just wanted to swim.

1180
00:49:16.841 --> 00:49:17.539
She's nine.

1181
00:49:17.701 --> 00:49:19.820
She's nine, and she thinks she knows me.

1182
00:49:19.880 --> 00:49:20.459
She goes like this.

1183
00:49:20.701 --> 00:49:21.660
We think she can swim.

1184
00:49:21.720 --> 00:49:23.940
Yeah, and I look, and she's in the bottom of the pool.

1185
00:49:24.080 --> 00:49:25.420
And I'm around water my whole life.

1186
00:49:25.500 --> 00:49:29.440
And I go, dear Lord, I'm going to drown my daughter.

1187
00:49:30.302 --> 00:49:32.760
So I dove in, and I get her up, and she comes up.

1188
00:49:34.744 --> 00:49:35.199
She's laughing.

1189
00:49:35.380 --> 00:49:36.460
I go, don't.

1190
00:49:36.884 --> 00:49:37.560
She doesn't know Chinese.

1191
00:49:37.700 --> 00:49:40.099
I go, and then I get her out, and she jumped in again.

1192
00:49:40.645 --> 00:49:40.980
Oh, gosh.

1193
00:49:41.340 --> 00:49:43.560
And so then I grabbed the floaties, and I put them on her arm.

1194
00:49:43.660 --> 00:49:44.519
I said, no, no, no.

1195
00:49:45.060 --> 00:49:47.038
But Rocky was taking her and flipping her.

1196
00:49:47.381 --> 00:49:51.660
and so she's just a gamer so then we go upstairs and everybody has to hear this because i go

1197
00:49:51.660 --> 00:49:56.200
upstairs debbie's doing paperwork i'm getting she's in her suit and i'm getting the kitchen

1198
00:49:56.240 --> 00:50:02.320
a little area and i hear why yeah god yeah whoa wow and i turn around she's got two of the biggest

1199
00:50:02.460 --> 00:50:09.360
knives from the kitchen and she's going and she knew how to do it and i was like oh my goodness

1200
00:50:10.147 --> 00:50:11.095
We adopted an expert.

1201
00:50:12.000 --> 00:50:12.060
A ninja.

1202
00:50:12.421 --> 00:50:12.856
A ninja.

1203
00:50:13.662 --> 00:50:14.580
You're the security team.

1204
00:50:14.620 --> 00:50:16.659
And she had her legs like, shoo, koo, wah, yah.

1205
00:50:16.920 --> 00:50:19.380
And I went, you know, good job.

1206
00:50:19.440 --> 00:50:23.140
And then she flips the knives and grabs the handles, and she hands them to me.

1207
00:50:23.483 --> 00:50:24.000
Now you do it, Bob.

1208
00:50:24.020 --> 00:50:29.500
And she only has stump on this hand, and she only has three fingers on this hand.

1209
00:50:29.721 --> 00:50:32.620
She was doing it with, you know, a little stump hand.

1210
00:50:32.701 --> 00:50:33.179
That's my excuse.

1211
00:50:34.686 --> 00:50:35.620
I go, how do you do that?

1212
00:50:35.702 --> 00:50:36.340
I couldn't do that.

1213
00:50:36.681 --> 00:50:37.592
So that was Chi Chi, you know.

1214
00:50:38.260 --> 00:50:38.700
That was the introduction.

1215
00:50:39.161 --> 00:50:44.555
So we got her and then the little girl who was found on the streets in a box.

1216
00:50:47.224 --> 00:50:47.420
In China?

1217
00:50:47.624 --> 00:50:47.780
Yeah.

1218
00:50:48.500 --> 00:50:49.759
Wrapped in a little pink blanket.

1219
00:50:50.783 --> 00:50:51.799
How long ago is this?

1220
00:50:52.904 --> 00:50:53.813
She is almost 21.

1221
00:50:55.843 --> 00:50:58.120
So they saw her defects and they just abandoned her.

1222
00:50:58.800 --> 00:51:02.320
And then she had her umbilical cord still attached when they found her.

1223
00:51:02.681 --> 00:51:09.140
And then Abigail, they found the other little girl who had been in the same bed with her since they brought him in as infants.

1224
00:51:10.002 --> 00:51:12.980
They found her at a train station in a little box.

1225
00:51:13.724 --> 00:51:15.020
So they grew up together.

1226
00:51:15.120 --> 00:51:19.060
So when we got Chi Chi, they brought Abigail out to have lunch with us.

1227
00:51:19.201 --> 00:51:20.740
Normally, you don't go back to the orphanage.

1228
00:51:21.341 --> 00:51:22.420
And they invited us back.

1229
00:51:22.561 --> 00:51:25.400
And they said that nobody ever adopts children this age.

1230
00:51:26.325 --> 00:51:27.240
And so they were thankful.

1231
00:51:27.340 --> 00:51:29.760
And then when they brought us to have the luncheon, they brought her out.

1232
00:51:30.648 --> 00:51:31.920
and I told Debbie, I mean,

1233
00:51:32.000 --> 00:51:33.699
Chi Chi had been screaming for two days and

1234
00:51:34.063 --> 00:51:35.700
I said, Debbie, I think this is our next one.

1235
00:51:35.760 --> 00:51:38.320
And Debbie's going, are you out of your mind?

1236
00:51:38.500 --> 00:51:38.934
You know, it's like.

1237
00:51:39.361 --> 00:51:40.580
I leaned over, he goes, Debbie, Debbie,

1238
00:51:41.041 --> 00:51:43.040
I think this is the next little girl we're close to adopt.

1239
00:51:43.762 --> 00:51:44.398
The screamer?

1240
00:51:44.746 --> 00:51:44.812
No.

1241
00:51:45.261 --> 00:51:46.420
Which was probably an angel.

1242
00:51:46.727 --> 00:51:47.279
I looked at her.

1243
00:51:47.440 --> 00:51:49.220
I was poking her so that she would get your attention.

1244
00:51:49.440 --> 00:51:51.080
I just told Rock, I go, I go,

1245
00:51:52.425 --> 00:51:54.280
we haven't finished with this adoption officially.

1246
00:51:54.762 --> 00:51:56.099
I need you to eat your lunch.

1247
00:51:57.565 --> 00:51:58.280
Don't even talk to me.

1248
00:51:58.400 --> 00:51:59.580
And so then it was my turn.

1249
00:51:59.861 --> 00:52:01.380
To listen to God and have to go.

1250
00:52:01.641 --> 00:52:01.843
And I go.

1251
00:52:03.521 --> 00:52:04.740
We went right back, got Abigail.

1252
00:52:05.041 --> 00:52:06.340
First, she wasn't up for adoption.

1253
00:52:07.061 --> 00:52:09.020
Because we saw her, they put her up for adoption.

1254
00:52:09.180 --> 00:52:10.060
They said she was mentally retarded.

1255
00:52:10.060 --> 00:52:10.940
She wasn't in the system.

1256
00:52:11.501 --> 00:52:12.439
That's what their words were.

1257
00:52:13.162 --> 00:52:16.280
And she was dumb and nobody would want her and blah, blah, blah.

1258
00:52:16.842 --> 00:52:17.560
And I said, we want her.

1259
00:52:18.444 --> 00:52:19.379
So we went back, got her.

1260
00:52:20.121 --> 00:52:21.660
So I know we have a little bit of time.

1261
00:52:21.760 --> 00:52:24.320
But then when we got back, we were done.

1262
00:52:24.801 --> 00:52:25.779
We were done adopting.

1263
00:52:26.120 --> 00:52:28.000
Four kids, all the hard work.

1264
00:52:28.785 --> 00:52:29.520
And we had a party.

1265
00:52:29.661 --> 00:52:31.500
Everybody who has supported it, we had them there.

1266
00:52:32.301 --> 00:52:35.080
So we're sitting around the table eating, and they're talking in Chinese.

1267
00:52:35.400 --> 00:52:39.580
And then one of the daughters was talking about this other little girl there in China.

1268
00:52:40.668 --> 00:52:41.240
I had seen her.

1269
00:52:41.523 --> 00:52:41.999
I saw her.

1270
00:52:42.740 --> 00:52:48.120
She had a big wine stain, red mark on her face, and they said that nobody would want her.

1271
00:52:48.140 --> 00:52:48.900
No one's going to want her.

1272
00:52:49.184 --> 00:52:49.338
Yeah.

1273
00:52:49.560 --> 00:52:57.120
And so anyway, we found out she used to hide her food, and she would keep people from hurting.

1274
00:52:57.260 --> 00:52:57.640
To give good food.

1275
00:52:57.660 --> 00:52:58.439
The other two little girls.

1276
00:52:59.242 --> 00:53:01.480
At night, she would hide her food and come feed them.

1277
00:53:02.824 --> 00:53:04.080
And they told us at the table.

1278
00:53:04.600 --> 00:53:07.240
And I was like, so we're in the bathroom.

1279
00:53:07.460 --> 00:53:09.540
We're the only place we have privacy, and I'm getting a shower.

1280
00:53:10.221 --> 00:53:14.340
And in the shower, I'm telling you what happened was I was sitting there,

1281
00:53:14.340 --> 00:53:18.720
and I knew God was saying to do it, but I was so tired after four.

1282
00:53:20.163 --> 00:53:21.199
And it was this moment.

1283
00:53:21.521 --> 00:53:23.820
I've never had it happen since or before.

1284
00:53:25.746 --> 00:53:30.300
I heard God's voice and I said, Lord, I don't know if I could do this again.

1285
00:53:31.381 --> 00:53:33.988
And this warmth just came over me.

1286
00:53:35.753 --> 00:53:38.180
It was a peace that I, and he just said,

1287
00:53:39.283 --> 00:53:39.584
it's okay.

1288
00:53:39.724 --> 00:53:40.446
It's going to be okay.

1289
00:53:40.466 --> 00:53:40.988
Just do it.

1290
00:53:42.293 --> 00:53:44.560
And Debbie was getting her makeup and stuff on or

1291
00:53:44.560 --> 00:53:45.283
whatever, working on.

1292
00:53:45.343 --> 00:53:47.291
And she said, you heard him at the table.

1293
00:53:47.311 --> 00:53:48.756
And I was like, yeah.

1294
00:53:49.479 --> 00:53:49.740
She said,

1295
00:53:49.801 --> 00:53:50.940
We got to have to go get her.

1296
00:53:52.220 --> 00:53:56.740
And that's how we, and we found out the bad thing was that Debbie,

1297
00:53:57.020 --> 00:53:58.740
Debbie, you tell, you called the.

1298
00:53:59.742 --> 00:54:02.560
We only had four months to get her out and she was going to age out.

1299
00:54:03.142 --> 00:54:05.400
And it takes a year and a half to get each, each of the kids.

1300
00:54:05.761 --> 00:54:10.680
But, but everybody, everybody did it quicker.

1301
00:54:11.060 --> 00:54:13.380
China agreed to do it, expedite it.

1302
00:54:13.500 --> 00:54:15.380
And the American, we did so.

1303
00:54:15.560 --> 00:54:17.540
They said, it's not impossible, but you have to.

1304
00:54:18.224 --> 00:54:20.898
And we prayed, said, God, we're going to do it.

1305
00:54:22.205 --> 00:54:22.820
And raise the money.

1306
00:54:23.121 --> 00:54:24.620
God actually created the problem.

1307
00:54:25.005 --> 00:54:25.500
Put it on.

1308
00:54:25.620 --> 00:54:26.178
That's a great point.

1309
00:54:26.280 --> 00:54:27.410
So, Lord, this is your gig.

1310
00:54:29.041 --> 00:54:31.120
And so our congressman, we didn't even know.

1311
00:54:31.720 --> 00:54:34.017
You know, he went for it and helped put a person on us.

1312
00:54:34.822 --> 00:54:35.739
Everything that did happen.

1313
00:54:35.900 --> 00:54:36.730
You know, and all this stuff.

1314
00:54:38.085 --> 00:54:38.440
I love it.

1315
00:54:38.600 --> 00:54:41.019
And then all of a sudden, boom, they call us.

1316
00:54:41.603 --> 00:54:42.520
And all the money came in.

1317
00:54:42.620 --> 00:54:44.000
You know, we're a youth minister.

1318
00:54:44.000 --> 00:54:46.259
You know, it's like every kid's $60,000.

1319
00:54:46.965 --> 00:54:48.620
But we're debt-free on it.

1320
00:54:49.182 --> 00:54:50.460
It was all God took care of it.

1321
00:54:51.061 --> 00:54:51.533
You know, $40,000.

1322
00:54:52.282 --> 00:54:52.436
Each.

1323
00:54:52.800 --> 00:54:52.957
Yeah.

1324
00:54:54.182 --> 00:54:59.820
But anyway, so, but God, you know, if anybody who's desiring to adopt,

1325
00:55:00.140 --> 00:55:04.220
if he puts it on your heart, if it's his will, it's his bill, he will take care of it.

1326
00:55:04.240 --> 00:55:04.560
Right on.

1327
00:55:05.101 --> 00:55:06.440
He will provide.

1328
00:55:06.620 --> 00:55:07.360
People walk up.

1329
00:55:08.100 --> 00:55:11.075
Guys will walk up when we needed it quick, and they're $20,000, $30,000.

1330
00:55:12.160 --> 00:55:12.459
That's right.

1331
00:55:12.540 --> 00:55:12.972
Or $10,000.

1332
00:55:13.260 --> 00:55:23.120
And there's also an agency in Texas that doesn't look like you're taking from the government that you can donate money in a family's name and then they pay your fees and you get a tax write off.

1333
00:55:23.581 --> 00:55:36.760
And anybody who's out there, if you know people who are adopting privately without anybody knowing, if you have financial stuff, you go bless them because it takes so much pressure off because people are fighting for these kids.

1334
00:55:36.840 --> 00:55:37.779
And that's the hardest thing.

1335
00:55:38.502 --> 00:55:41.139
People just don't acknowledge it and see it.

1336
00:55:41.240 --> 00:55:44.876
you know, but they're, you know, that's just, but we're grateful, man.

1337
00:55:44.896 --> 00:55:45.660
We're, you know, I,

1338
00:55:45.881 --> 00:55:47.229
the other day I was just praying to the Lord.

1339
00:55:47.249 --> 00:55:49.059
I said, we have just a heart of gratitude.

1340
00:55:49.079 --> 00:55:49.180
We're

1341
00:55:49.220 --> 00:55:49.603
so thankful.

1342
00:55:49.623 --> 00:55:51.576
People always come up and said, you guys are such here.

1343
00:55:51.616 --> 00:55:52.220
I said, whoa, whoa.

1344
00:55:52.740 --> 00:55:54.129
The only thing I deserved was hell.

1345
00:55:54.511 --> 00:55:55.094
That's right.

1346
00:55:55.356 --> 00:55:56.040
You and me both.

1347
00:55:56.321 --> 00:55:57.365
I said, I, that's all.

1348
00:55:57.586 --> 00:56:00.740
I know that everything that happened, that God put this on our heart,

1349
00:56:01.500 --> 00:56:03.548
that it's him, it's his power.

1350
00:56:04.110 --> 00:56:05.395
He needs to be glorified.

1351
00:56:05.616 --> 00:56:06.660
As people always try to tell

1352
00:56:07.061 --> 00:56:09.389
adopted people or missionaries.

1353
00:56:09.589 --> 00:56:11.877
Oh, there's a special place ahead of every... No.

1354
00:56:12.739 --> 00:56:12.980
I said,

1355
00:56:13.020 --> 00:56:15.809
Debbie and I are just, we're saved by grace.

1356
00:56:16.030 --> 00:56:17.114
And we just love Jesus.

1357
00:56:17.636 --> 00:56:18.900
But boy, the results of it,

1358
00:56:19.420 --> 00:56:23.480
when we look at those girls, when my little girl who couldn't, Savita was malnourished,

1359
00:56:23.920 --> 00:56:27.191
when she couldn't hardly walk to the mailbox, we got her.

1360
00:56:27.833 --> 00:56:29.700
I looked at her run up those steps at

1361
00:56:29.760 --> 00:56:32.430
Liberty University, that one building that has the steps.

1362
00:56:32.531 --> 00:56:34.840
And I pulled up and saw her run up and

1363
00:56:34.920 --> 00:56:35.462
wave at me.

1364
00:56:36.865 --> 00:56:37.888
Oh, man.

1365
00:56:39.011 --> 00:56:42.540
It's worth it all when you see them come to Jesus and you see the power of

1366
00:56:42.600 --> 00:56:42.981
God.

1367
00:56:43.643 --> 00:56:47.876
That's what people, you know, we're the ones blessed, not them.

1368
00:56:47.896 --> 00:56:49.360
That's always the case when we

1369
00:56:49.460 --> 00:56:49.962
obey him.

1370
00:56:50.604 --> 00:56:51.628
That's what I got to tell folks.

1371
00:56:51.648 --> 00:56:52.451
The slavery.

1372
00:56:52.471 --> 00:56:53.675
It's worth it all.

1373
00:56:53.775 --> 00:56:55.080
The slavery to Jesus

1374
00:56:55.602 --> 00:56:56.805
is the ultimate freedom.

1375
00:56:57.066 --> 00:56:57.287
Yes.

1376
00:56:57.608 --> 00:56:57.929
Amen.

1377
00:56:58.430 --> 00:56:59.293
That's exactly right.

1378
00:56:59.333 --> 00:57:01.460
You know, so many people,

1379
00:57:02.945 --> 00:57:07.040
they may not say it this way but what they're really saying is well you know christianity

1380
00:57:07.641 --> 00:57:17.100
yeah it's it's you know it's not really working for me well the problem is is that you've still

1381
00:57:17.742 --> 00:57:25.040
allowed yourself to exist rather than surrendering to him he knows nothing about spectator

1382
00:57:26.102 --> 00:57:34.040
christianity no it's the and and the joy you guys are just personifications of jesus said if you

1383
00:57:34.080 --> 00:57:40.260
give up your life you'll find it yes this this divine sanctified contradiction give up your life

1384
00:57:40.441 --> 00:57:45.180
you're going to find what it really means to be life while you guys have been sharing several

1385
00:57:45.401 --> 00:57:51.540
thoughts came to my mind where clearly one of the god's names is way maker yes and he did that for

1386
00:57:51.560 --> 00:57:58.420
you guys and he's doing it for you guys and before that thought was how god honored his word you know

1387
00:57:58.460 --> 00:58:04.499
psalm 138 says and this is a heavy it's hard i don't even know if i understand this in psalm 138

1388
00:58:05.020 --> 00:58:12.380
god says i've has i have honored my word above my own name that's hard for me to handle because

1389
00:58:12.922 --> 00:58:19.500
i know that the that the lord and the word and that encapsulates his name and he's inseparable

1390
00:58:19.721 --> 00:58:20.283
from himself.

1391
00:58:20.303 --> 00:58:21.126
That's impossible.

1392
00:58:21.206 --> 00:58:22.190
He can't be separated.

1393
00:58:22.973 --> 00:58:24.900
But when you realize that at the name

1394
00:58:25.000 --> 00:58:31.860
of Jesus, every knee will bow, every tongue will confess that there's no other name, Jesus, among

1395
00:58:31.960 --> 00:58:34.708
men given by we must be saved.

1396
00:58:34.768 --> 00:58:35.631
Jesus is that name.

1397
00:58:35.711 --> 00:58:38.760
And then God announces in his word, but I've

1398
00:58:38.800 --> 00:58:40.446
esteemed my word above my own name.

1399
00:58:40.506 --> 00:58:43.998
Now, glory be to God, the word of God and the name of God is

1400
00:58:44.720 --> 00:58:45.101
Jesus.

1401
00:58:45.402 --> 00:58:54.340
That said, Amos 3.3 says, how can two walk together unless they're in agreement?

1402
00:58:55.221 --> 00:58:58.995
And I don't think humans can be in agreement without God.

1403
00:58:59.537 --> 00:59:00.500
Now, somebody might say, well,

1404
00:59:00.540 --> 00:59:03.811
we're not Christians and we've had a marriage for, I'm not knocking that.

1405
00:59:05.517 --> 00:59:06.520
But we're looking at the

1406
00:59:06.580 --> 00:59:11.980
two of you who lived not a life to get the house at the beach or the Porsche in the garage or the

1407
00:59:12.060 --> 00:59:19.160
plane at the airport, not knocking that, but if that's, listen, you guys are examples of kingdom

1408
00:59:19.280 --> 00:59:19.541
first.

1409
00:59:20.002 --> 00:59:20.242
Yes.

1410
00:59:20.743 --> 00:59:21.505
Kingdom first.

1411
00:59:22.387 --> 00:59:28.500
And when that happens, that is against everything Satan stands for.

1412
00:59:28.801 --> 00:59:30.184
He hates you.

1413
00:59:30.204 --> 00:59:31.708
He hates God.

1414
00:59:32.550 --> 00:59:34.976
He hates everything about your witness and story.

1415
00:59:35.718 --> 00:59:36.480
And so he causes

1416
00:59:36.621 --> 00:59:38.487
the fog or the flu to pop up.

1417
00:59:39.190 --> 00:59:40.514
He just has to do something.

1418
00:59:40.555 --> 00:59:42.080
You know, Satan never has a good day,

1419
00:59:42.140 --> 00:59:47.600
if you think about it, because there are people just like you who have yielded their frail lives

1420
00:59:48.181 --> 00:59:49.544
to an almighty God.

1421
00:59:50.166 --> 00:59:51.068
Amen.

1422
00:59:51.088 --> 00:59:56.120
And the result of your faithfulness is these kids are walking around

1423
00:59:56.200 --> 01:00:03.900
planet earth and they cannot, no matter what they say, they cannot deny that God has intervened in

1424
01:00:03.920 --> 01:00:05.567
their lives, no matter what journey.

1425
01:00:05.989 --> 01:00:06.351
That's right.

1426
01:00:06.833 --> 01:00:07.757
It's absolutely awesome.

1427
01:00:08.098 --> 01:00:08.560
Really quick,

1428
01:00:08.861 --> 01:00:11.573
where can people find out more about you guys?

1429
01:00:12.276 --> 01:00:13.120
How do they connect?

1430
01:00:13.500 --> 01:00:18.706
Well, I have a little website, 4life.org.

1431
01:00:18.906 --> 01:00:20.688
It's no little website, by the way.

1432
01:00:20.728 --> 01:00:21.589
It's very well done.

1433
01:00:30.821 --> 01:00:31.202
Oh, good.

1434
01:00:32.045 --> 01:00:36.040
Yeah, we tried to make, our original one got hijacked by the Russians.

1435
01:00:36.281 --> 01:00:36.618
Of course.

1436
01:00:36.942 --> 01:00:38.100
And so they tried to take that.

1437
01:00:38.161 --> 01:00:38.820
We resembled them.

1438
01:00:38.840 --> 01:00:40.345
They wanted like 50,000.

1439
01:00:40.386 --> 01:00:41.168
I said, not me.

1440
01:00:41.409 --> 01:00:43.015
We'll just make it four dash life.

1441
01:00:43.637 --> 01:00:44.340
So yeah, and then

1442
01:00:44.561 --> 01:00:48.094
on there it has, you know, obviously I do my little camps.

1443
01:00:48.114 --> 01:00:49.560
And my main thing is I do camps,

1444
01:00:49.660 --> 01:00:50.243
mentor kids.

1445
01:00:50.263 --> 01:00:53.720
And then I've been praying for more of an opportunity for us to share

1446
01:00:54.222 --> 01:00:55.326
what God's done, you know.

1447
01:00:55.486 --> 01:00:59.420
And so they can go there and it has a support thing or whatever.

1448
01:00:59.884 --> 01:01:01.680
We're a small nonprofit.

1449
01:01:02.142 --> 01:01:02.760
It's real small.

1450
01:01:04.023 --> 01:01:08.120
And I've been really praying at a point where I don't have to do the lessons as much.

1451
01:01:08.180 --> 01:01:09.240
I think that should change, you guys.

1452
01:01:09.300 --> 01:01:10.240
I think that should change.

1453
01:01:11.381 --> 01:01:15.380
They shouldn't be a small nonprofit with what they're doing.

1454
01:01:15.801 --> 01:01:20.534
So, I mean, you guys should definitely go to 4-life.org.

1455
01:01:24.064 --> 01:01:26.200
Go check out that website and see what they're doing.

1456
01:01:26.300 --> 01:01:29.860
and your ministry should be very big

1457
01:01:31.571 --> 01:01:32.960
because this is pure kingdom stuff

1458
01:01:33.062 --> 01:01:33.699
and it's incredible.

1459
01:01:35.123 --> 01:01:37.000
We want to see you guys explode,

1460
01:01:37.140 --> 01:01:38.799
whatever that means, let God define it.

1461
01:01:39.881 --> 01:01:42.460
But yeah, what a testimony.

1462
01:01:43.241 --> 01:01:44.900
And I know you guys have so much more to say.

1463
01:01:45.000 --> 01:01:46.200
We should probably do this again sometime.

1464
01:01:46.360 --> 01:01:46.580
We'll do it.

1465
01:01:47.103 --> 01:01:49.160
We love you and appreciate you having us here.

1466
01:01:49.181 --> 01:01:49.538
It's an honor.

1467
01:01:49.980 --> 01:01:52.360
Well, hopefully this is a start of a new

1468
01:01:52.562 --> 01:01:53.960
and long relationship.

1469
01:01:54.220 --> 01:01:55.280
We'd love to see that happen.

1470
01:01:55.667 --> 01:01:56.399
Thank you so much.

1471
01:01:56.761 --> 01:01:57.653
It's great to have you.

1472
01:01:57.794 --> 01:01:58.240
God bless you.

1473
01:01:58.460 --> 01:01:59.920
Debbie, thank you so much.

1474
01:02:00.420 --> 01:02:00.660
Amen.

1475
01:02:02.580 --> 01:02:03.660
Hey, everybody, listen up.

1476
01:02:04.040 --> 01:02:08.400
We actually wound up breaking a rule to bring you what we're about to bring you.

1477
01:02:08.800 --> 01:02:13.220
So in sitting down with Rocky Coyle, the conversation was wonderful,

1478
01:02:13.361 --> 01:02:17.560
but it didn't talk about enough, not enough of what we needed to discuss.

1479
01:02:18.101 --> 01:02:23.660
And so on the other side, we sat down, and breaking the rule means this.

1480
01:02:25.042 --> 01:02:28.220
I had him sit down with a bunch of men from our church, which I normally do,

1481
01:02:28.861 --> 01:02:32.340
but this time we recorded it, and we're going to let you in on that.

1482
01:02:33.323 --> 01:02:34.252
It's going to be insightful.

1483
01:02:34.272 --> 01:02:35.020
It's going to be powerful.

1484
01:02:35.460 --> 01:02:38.800
And if it's a blessing to you, if it really touches your heart,

1485
01:02:40.407 --> 01:02:42.320
I would love for you to share it with other people.

1486
01:02:42.480 --> 01:02:44.231
So let's dive into this.

1487
01:02:44.311 --> 01:02:45.720
I think you're going to find it fascinating.

1488
01:02:47.462 --> 01:02:52.760
I am blown away with what God can do in people's lives.

1489
01:02:54.041 --> 01:03:01.860
Not only those in whom, you know, he rescues like us, but then he turns right around and he uses us to rescue others.

1490
01:03:03.286 --> 01:03:06.140
And the economy of God is exactly that way.

1491
01:03:07.541 --> 01:03:18.740
No wonder why he told the demoniac in Gadara when he cast the legion of swine out of that demon-possessed man.

1492
01:03:19.861 --> 01:03:23.040
When he said, Jesus, allow me to follow you.

1493
01:03:23.100 --> 01:03:26.540
And Jesus said, no, no, you're not going to do that.

1494
01:03:27.221 --> 01:03:31.720
I want you to go home from where you came from, which is the Decapolis.

1495
01:03:32.721 --> 01:03:38.060
And he said, I want you to go and tell people what good things God has done for you.

1496
01:03:39.522 --> 01:03:42.180
And that is the economy of God.

1497
01:03:44.620 --> 01:03:49.819
Augustine said that when we preach the gospel,

1498
01:03:50.584 --> 01:03:52.900
if you have to use words, then use words.

1499
01:03:54.149 --> 01:03:55.499
In other words, use your life first.

1500
01:03:57.367 --> 01:03:58.360
That is absolutely awesome.

1501
01:04:01.002 --> 01:04:04.560
So Rocky Coyle, who you're going to meet this evening,

1502
01:04:06.965 --> 01:04:09.980
had his career in professional baseball.

1503
01:04:10.541 --> 01:04:12.059
He'll talk maybe a little bit about that.

1504
01:04:13.982 --> 01:04:18.220
But I'm going to have him dive right into the deep stuff that we need to hear.

1505
01:04:19.402 --> 01:04:22.520
Because he and his wife Debbie, their life story is incredible.

1506
01:04:23.141 --> 01:04:25.239
Tonight it'll just be Rocky and I out here for now.

1507
01:04:26.344 --> 01:04:27.720
But we're hoping that in the future,

1508
01:04:29.242 --> 01:04:32.600
God opens up a door where we can connect

1509
01:04:33.745 --> 01:04:36.960
and experience the miraculous work of God more and more.

1510
01:04:38.244 --> 01:04:39.320
I also want to encourage you.

1511
01:04:39.501 --> 01:04:41.940
You're going to hear a lot tonight about adoption.

1512
01:04:43.740 --> 01:04:46.759
And I have to tell you,

1513
01:04:48.900 --> 01:04:52.360
Rocky's not invited, though, regarding us promoting adoption.

1514
01:04:53.982 --> 01:05:02.600
When I saw and I heard Rocky exhibit a life that's yielded to Jesus, that's why he's here before you guys.

1515
01:05:02.760 --> 01:05:03.415
Excuse me, ladies.

1516
01:05:03.740 --> 01:05:05.199
I'm so programmed to saying the guys.

1517
01:05:06.771 --> 01:05:07.160
Y'all.

1518
01:05:09.141 --> 01:05:16.680
Here right now because this guy, for me, encapsulates so much of what we want to achieve.

1519
01:05:18.844 --> 01:05:20.240
And it's amazing.

1520
01:05:20.482 --> 01:05:22.860
It just so happens God used adoption.

1521
01:05:23.121 --> 01:05:24.190
his life in a powerful way.

1522
01:05:24.231 --> 01:05:25.159
Adoption was the tool

1523
01:05:26.453 --> 01:05:27.020
that God used

1524
01:05:27.121 --> 01:05:28.999
in his life to make him a

1525
01:05:29.182 --> 01:05:29.578
rescuer.

1526
01:05:32.188 --> 01:05:32.334
And

1527
01:05:34.052 --> 01:05:35.160
we're going to learn a lot tonight.

1528
01:05:37.788 --> 01:05:38.136
We're going to

1529
01:05:39.387 --> 01:05:41.200
have a table talk this evening, so listen

1530
01:05:41.325 --> 01:05:41.680
carefully.

1531
01:05:45.383 --> 01:05:46.939
But his career, you can look at that

1532
01:05:47.667 --> 01:05:48.719
in detail later on.

1533
01:05:51.992 --> 01:05:53.960
but he was a man accomplished in his own right

1534
01:05:54.607 --> 01:05:55.799
he'll share a little bit about that

1535
01:05:56.245 --> 01:05:57.198
but I want to get into the

1536
01:05:58.509 --> 01:06:00.000
the life changing deep stuff

1537
01:06:02.131 --> 01:06:03.860
and so Father I pray that this evening

1538
01:06:05.094 --> 01:06:05.499
though there's

1539
01:06:05.924 --> 01:06:07.300
not many of us in here tonight

1540
01:06:07.441 --> 01:06:09.179
we know that later on this will be broadcast

1541
01:06:09.341 --> 01:06:11.720
and we hope that it reaches

1542
01:06:11.843 --> 01:06:12.599
millions of people

1543
01:06:14.935 --> 01:06:15.740
because it is certainly

1544
01:06:15.905 --> 01:06:16.378
true that

1545
01:06:17.786 --> 01:06:20.700
wherever the concept and the idea and the option

1546
01:06:22.270 --> 01:06:23.800
for adoption is present,

1547
01:06:24.000 --> 01:06:27.360
we know that abortion decreases.

1548
01:06:29.484 --> 01:06:31.840
We know that when adoption is elevated,

1549
01:06:33.765 --> 01:06:36.260
more babies are born rather than terminated.

1550
01:06:38.740 --> 01:06:41.760
And Lord, I pray that this influence

1551
01:06:41.841 --> 01:06:44.699
that Rocky and Debbie have had on Lisa and I

1552
01:06:47.030 --> 01:06:49.200
translates into real active ministry

1553
01:06:49.220 --> 01:06:50.220
in the state of California

1554
01:06:51.425 --> 01:06:54.520
to present an alternative to this bloodthirsty state

1555
01:06:56.172 --> 01:06:57.240
that is bent on abortion.

1556
01:07:01.964 --> 01:07:02.999
And God, we pray for your,

1557
01:07:05.363 --> 01:07:06.920
we pray that you'd have freedom tonight

1558
01:07:07.083 --> 01:07:07.879
to move in our midst.

1559
01:07:09.803 --> 01:07:11.800
And so we ask it, Lord, now in Jesus' name.

1560
01:07:12.000 --> 01:07:14.020
And all God's people said,

1561
01:07:14.783 --> 01:07:15.104
Amen.

1562
01:07:15.787 --> 01:07:18.860
So I want you to give a warm welcome to Rocky Coyle.

1563
01:07:29.341 --> 01:07:30.928
Okay, Rocky, I want you to dive in.

1564
01:07:31.932 --> 01:07:33.780
These people are going to be shocked tonight about how little

1565
01:07:33.980 --> 01:07:36.206
I talk because we need to hear from you.

1566
01:07:36.868 --> 01:07:38.733
But who are you, brother?

1567
01:07:39.435 --> 01:07:41.140
Who are you and what's God doing?

1568
01:07:41.825 --> 01:07:43.820
Well, God is doing some great things.

1569
01:07:43.981 --> 01:07:44.880
First of all, thank you.

1570
01:07:45.040 --> 01:07:49.480
The people here have been so loving and kind to my wife and I.

1571
01:07:50.100 --> 01:07:53.080
You can sense the spirit of God, and it's just powerful.

1572
01:07:53.901 --> 01:07:55.820
And it's an honor to be here.

1573
01:07:56.722 --> 01:07:59.520
For me, I was born and raised in Phoenix, Arizona.

1574
01:08:00.783 --> 01:08:02.460
Yeah, you've got an Arizona person there.

1575
01:08:03.683 --> 01:08:06.100
So I was raised in a sports family.

1576
01:08:06.241 --> 01:08:09.660
My dad was a coach, and my dad was a basketball player.

1577
01:08:10.403 --> 01:08:14.700
I try to tell her by their laughing, but my brothers are all six feet and I'm five seven.

1578
01:08:15.060 --> 01:08:19.360
So, you know, I got my mom's height and her looks, you know, that's about all I got.

1579
01:08:20.185 --> 01:08:21.780
But but my dad's athletic ability.

1580
01:08:22.603 --> 01:08:24.700
So I was born and raised in a sports family.

1581
01:08:25.640 --> 01:08:30.160
And we basically with with my dad was a coach.

1582
01:08:31.082 --> 01:08:32.840
And so we was around sports.

1583
01:08:33.143 --> 01:08:33.880
Anybody see the movie?

1584
01:08:33.960 --> 01:08:34.980
I was sharing this on the pocket.

1585
01:08:34.980 --> 01:08:38.614
Anybody see the movie Sandlot?

1586
01:08:40.580 --> 01:08:41.780
You guys love the Sandlot?

1587
01:08:42.240 --> 01:08:46.020
Well, I grew up in a neighborhood where I was born,

1588
01:08:46.180 --> 01:08:48.560
and I was the ninth boy born into my neighborhood.

1589
01:08:49.461 --> 01:08:54.020
So I was out there playing in diapers and was playing baseball from when I was a little guy.

1590
01:08:54.900 --> 01:08:58.600
And so when I started playing Little League, I was better than everybody else.

1591
01:08:59.620 --> 01:09:02.960
And also my dad was coaching me, and my dad was always teaching.

1592
01:09:03.221 --> 01:09:06.760
And a lot of kids today don't have a good father.

1593
01:09:06.880 --> 01:09:08.660
And I was very fortunate to have a great father.

1594
01:09:09.441 --> 01:09:10.920
But he was a man's man.

1595
01:09:11.467 --> 01:09:12.120
He was a boxer.

1596
01:09:12.301 --> 01:09:12.980
He played basketball.

1597
01:09:13.100 --> 01:09:14.140
He was the oldest living.

1598
01:09:14.261 --> 01:09:15.260
He just passed away.

1599
01:09:16.141 --> 01:09:20.240
And he was the oldest living member of the University of Arizona basketball.

1600
01:09:21.422 --> 01:09:22.640
And so he was a really good player.

1601
01:09:23.081 --> 01:09:24.720
And if you look his stats up, he was good.

1602
01:09:24.800 --> 01:09:26.580
I didn't know how good he was, so I looked up his stats.

1603
01:09:27.300 --> 01:09:31.560
So by the time I started playing Little League, I was already kind of like a legend.

1604
01:09:31.901 --> 01:09:36.257
And so when you're playing Little League against kids that were younger than you, it was insane.

1605
01:09:37.521 --> 01:09:39.380
Every time I got up, it seemed like I hit a home run.

1606
01:09:39.460 --> 01:09:40.160
Everybody was trying to get.

1607
01:09:40.480 --> 01:09:44.900
And I have one of those names, Rocky, that everybody kind of like, hey, Rocky's up.

1608
01:09:45.040 --> 01:09:45.699
You know, hey, Rock.

1609
01:09:46.121 --> 01:09:48.980
My real name is Rock, Rock Joseph.

1610
01:09:50.403 --> 01:09:53.420
But later on, I realized Peter was the Rock, you know.

1611
01:09:53.722 --> 01:09:54.900
My dad didn't know it at the time.

1612
01:09:55.641 --> 01:09:59.659
So, you know, my roots were sports and those things.

1613
01:09:59.840 --> 01:10:07.000
So when I was playing my last Little League game, I was up to bat and I had two strikes.

1614
01:10:08.101 --> 01:10:11.840
And the guy pitched the ball and I foul tipped it and the catcher caught it while I got out.

1615
01:10:12.844 --> 01:10:13.800
And I handled it fine.

1616
01:10:13.921 --> 01:10:14.820
My dad was one of these guys.

1617
01:10:14.920 --> 01:10:17.400
Have you ever been to Little League games or travel ball?

1618
01:10:19.181 --> 01:10:21.640
Parents never show themselves very good, do they?

1619
01:10:22.060 --> 01:10:25.060
You know, so it's like, but my dad was this big, strong guy.

1620
01:10:25.401 --> 01:10:29.920
he would always stand way down the left field line and just stand there with his arms like this.

1621
01:10:31.060 --> 01:10:33.609
And he would not interfere.

1622
01:10:34.111 --> 01:10:35.756
And so he saw the whole thing happen.

1623
01:10:35.776 --> 01:10:36.840
Well, the bad thing was

1624
01:10:37.683 --> 01:10:39.230
I was only like seven or eight years old.

1625
01:10:39.752 --> 01:10:41.359
I didn't understand that people were like

1626
01:10:42.885 --> 01:10:44.271
envious of you for doing things.

1627
01:10:44.311 --> 01:10:46.560
I was just a little guy and I wanted to make everybody happy

1628
01:10:46.640 --> 01:10:47.162
all the time.

1629
01:10:47.765 --> 01:10:51.260
And I go back to the dugout and my own teammates are cheering that I got out,

1630
01:10:52.126 --> 01:10:52.740
My own teammates.

1631
01:10:54.223 --> 01:10:55.980
And I was like, why are they cheering that I got out?

1632
01:10:56.662 --> 01:10:59.240
Then they were mobbing the pitcher that he got me out.

1633
01:10:59.721 --> 01:11:01.280
Because I was getting home runs all the time.

1634
01:11:01.621 --> 01:11:02.700
So they're mobbing the pitcher.

1635
01:11:02.820 --> 01:11:03.817
We were winning 11 to nothing.

1636
01:11:04.140 --> 01:11:06.020
And they're mobbing the pitcher because he struck me out.

1637
01:11:06.981 --> 01:11:10.620
And then the parents of my own teammates were cheering that I got out.

1638
01:11:11.422 --> 01:11:13.220
So I'm like eight years old.

1639
01:11:13.321 --> 01:11:15.240
And I'm not sad because I got out.

1640
01:11:16.302 --> 01:11:18.440
I was getting to taste the way the world is sometimes.

1641
01:11:19.160 --> 01:11:20.280
And so I started crying.

1642
01:11:20.542 --> 01:11:22.800
Not because I got out, because I was confused.

1643
01:11:23.220 --> 01:11:28.460
My dad's, the men that are in here, I want you to hear this because this is so powerful.

1644
01:11:28.600 --> 01:11:29.130
I'm 66 now.

1645
01:11:30.740 --> 01:11:40.120
This is so powerful for you guys to hear this because it can make the difference in a young man's life or a young lady if you just have girls.

1646
01:11:41.221 --> 01:11:43.640
And my dad saw it all happen.

1647
01:11:43.780 --> 01:11:47.700
I rode my bike home and he came in the back room and he sat me on his lap.

1648
01:11:48.765 --> 01:11:51.980
and I hated him looking at me eyes when I was in high school, but that's another story.

1649
01:11:52.421 --> 01:11:57.460
But, um, he always made me look at him in the eyes and he said, what are you crying about, son?

1650
01:11:58.821 --> 01:12:00.005
And I said, dad, I'm sorry.

1651
01:12:00.045 --> 01:12:01.530
I failed you in front of everyone.

1652
01:12:02.312 --> 01:12:04.680
Um, I'm embarrassed and I'm sorry

1653
01:12:04.700 --> 01:12:06.147
that in front of everybody, I did that.

1654
01:12:06.931 --> 01:12:08.620
And he looked at me and he said, let me tell you something

1655
01:12:08.780 --> 01:12:09.583
rock Joseph.

1656
01:12:11.407 --> 01:12:14.496
He goes, I want you to hear this before you start this thing called life.

1657
01:12:15.979 --> 01:12:16.200
He goes,

1658
01:12:16.240 --> 01:12:17.848
I don't care if you get four hits in a game.

1659
01:12:18.873 --> 01:12:20.320
He goes, I don't care if you're an all American.

1660
01:12:21.021 --> 01:12:23.290
He goes, I don't even care if you're, you play pro ball.

1661
01:12:24.194 --> 01:12:25.640
He said, you look at me and you never

1662
01:12:25.740 --> 01:12:26.282
forget this.

1663
01:12:26.583 --> 01:12:31.260
And men, you need to hear this because we can speak life or death into our,

1664
01:12:31.520 --> 01:12:33.206
into our people, the people that are around us.

1665
01:12:34.149 --> 01:12:37.260
And it makes a huge impact in this world.

1666
01:12:37.981 --> 01:12:42.113
These little ones are looking for men who will speak life into them.

1667
01:12:43.076 --> 01:12:44.400
This, this generation is

1668
01:12:44.520 --> 01:12:46.626
crying out for truth and life.

1669
01:12:47.528 --> 01:12:48.972
And I was as a little boy.

1670
01:12:49.775 --> 01:12:51.740
And my dad said, said that to me,

1671
01:12:51.760 --> 01:12:55.300
he goes, I don't care if you get four hits, if you're an all American, I don't care if you play,

1672
01:12:55.400 --> 01:12:57.870
he goes, I want you to listen to me, listen to me close rock.

1673
01:12:58.292 --> 01:13:00.100
And he leaned towards me and he said,

1674
01:13:01.262 --> 01:13:03.848
I love you because you're my son.

1675
01:13:05.372 --> 01:13:08.840
He said, you just do your best and be the best you can be.

1676
01:13:09.422 --> 01:13:10.345
And that's what he said to me.

1677
01:13:11.189 --> 01:13:13.698
And it was powerful for a young man.

1678
01:13:13.738 --> 01:13:14.320
And I, you know,

1679
01:13:14.460 --> 01:13:17.899
all these kids nowadays, their parents are yelling, get your, you can't do it.

1680
01:13:17.919 --> 01:13:18.100
You know,

1681
01:13:18.120 --> 01:13:20.691
they're screaming and they're so they're judging them.

1682
01:13:20.711 --> 01:13:22.218
And my dad wanted me to do well.

1683
01:13:22.278 --> 01:13:22.640
He saw it

1684
01:13:22.700 --> 01:13:25.393
wasn't fair, but he was trying to teach to, and you know what?

1685
01:13:25.774 --> 01:13:26.980
I'll tell you when you put that

1686
01:13:27.060 --> 01:13:30.709
in a young man's heart, he becomes a warrior.

1687
01:13:31.872 --> 01:13:33.115
He becomes a warrior.

1688
01:13:33.716 --> 01:13:35.280
And that's what I had no fear

1689
01:13:35.360 --> 01:13:36.644
to ever fail again.

1690
01:13:36.684 --> 01:13:41.640
The funny thing was I went on to be an all American and I went on to be a pro,

1691
01:13:43.023 --> 01:13:44.447
but that had nothing to do with it.

1692
01:13:44.768 --> 01:13:48.740
And that's, and that's, so my life started in athletics and

1693
01:13:48.780 --> 01:13:49.423
those things.

1694
01:13:49.624 --> 01:13:53.060
And then, uh, there was another movement of my father a little later that,

1695
01:13:53.502 --> 01:13:55.680
that, you know, about my faith and things like that too.

1696
01:13:57.001 --> 01:14:02.120
So, um, so that they know who you are real brief, you know, we spent a lot of time on the podcast.

1697
01:14:02.181 --> 01:14:03.480
We spent a lot of on that.

1698
01:14:03.920 --> 01:14:06.440
We don't need to do that now because what we're, no, that was my fault.

1699
01:14:07.081 --> 01:14:13.258
What we're going to do, we're going to blend, by the way, we're going to blend what we experience here tonight on video.

1700
01:14:14.761 --> 01:14:24.560
And we're going to put the podcast in up front and then put this in behind it and make sure that we release that out because people need to hear what he's about to say.

1701
01:14:25.903 --> 01:14:27.740
So we're going to skip all of that part.

1702
01:14:27.840 --> 01:14:47.700
We're going to go to the ministry, knowingly or unknowingly, there was the ministry that God was bringing you and Debbie into that would soon change your life and the trajectory of both your lives forever and other people's lives.

1703
01:14:48.885 --> 01:14:50.000
Where can you start on that?

1704
01:14:50.280 --> 01:14:53.538
Well, Debbie and I were going into our 50s.

1705
01:14:54.524 --> 01:14:55.236
We had raised a family.

1706
01:14:55.601 --> 01:14:57.675
We have a son who's 43 and our daughter's 36.

1707
01:14:59.300 --> 01:15:00.274
Debbie and I have been married 44 years.

1708
01:15:00.760 --> 01:15:02.940
So the real hero, I was telling everybody else, is my wife, Debbie.

1709
01:15:03.824 --> 01:15:04.420
She is amazing.

1710
01:15:05.144 --> 01:15:07.520
We have a birthday on the same day, by the way, same year.

1711
01:15:07.982 --> 01:15:09.140
Except I always look older.

1712
01:15:09.421 --> 01:15:10.540
She never gets old, you know.

1713
01:15:11.160 --> 01:15:16.520
So, but we were, Debbie was looking, you know, Debbie was a PE teacher.

1714
01:15:17.365 --> 01:15:18.580
And she was working at Hallmark.

1715
01:15:18.961 --> 01:15:23.800
And what happened was God started working in her heart about being, about adopting.

1716
01:15:24.261 --> 01:15:29.800
and then this lady came into Hallmark and she talked to her and then she, the lady had adopted

1717
01:15:29.940 --> 01:15:33.633
a little child and the Lord was telling her, you need to listen closely.

1718
01:15:34.897 --> 01:15:35.700
Then for Debbie,

1719
01:15:36.082 --> 01:15:38.395
it takes, Debbie and I are complete opposites by the way.

1720
01:15:38.415 --> 01:15:39.260
Anybody who's married and you're

1721
01:15:39.320 --> 01:15:40.605
complete opposite, that's Debbie and I.

1722
01:15:41.288 --> 01:15:43.215
And so it's a powerful thing.

1723
01:15:43.556 --> 01:15:44.480
So God started working

1724
01:15:44.560 --> 01:15:47.191
in Debbie's heart and then she came to me and said, what about adoption?

1725
01:15:48.455 --> 01:15:49.620
So in our 50, just

1726
01:15:49.700 --> 01:15:55.540
about almost 50 years old, Debbie and I started in the adoption and we, we cited, we looked,

1727
01:15:57.145 --> 01:16:01.700
you know, around, you know, close to home, but then our daughter came to us and said,

1728
01:16:01.740 --> 01:16:02.502
what about India?

1729
01:16:02.523 --> 01:16:08.080
And we found a little girl on line or with the agency sent us a picture of our,

1730
01:16:08.521 --> 01:16:14.320
our first little girl Swati and she had been burned and she was burned and left to die.

1731
01:16:14.501 --> 01:16:17.600
and she was 13 pounds when they had found her.

1732
01:16:18.605 --> 01:16:20.420
And they showed that picture of her

1733
01:16:20.480 --> 01:16:23.820
and we decided that this was our girl right here.

1734
01:16:23.880 --> 01:16:24.820
This was the girl we're gonna do.

1735
01:16:24.920 --> 01:16:27.220
But for me, for all you guys out there,

1736
01:16:27.300 --> 01:16:28.180
at first I was saying,

1737
01:16:28.340 --> 01:16:29.340
there's no way I'm gonna do this,

1738
01:16:29.400 --> 01:16:31.540
go all the way to India and do all these things.

1739
01:16:31.620 --> 01:16:33.500
And God started really working in my heart.

1740
01:16:34.181 --> 01:16:36.820
And I had put her picture like you saw on the video.

1741
01:16:37.481 --> 01:16:38.660
He really started working in my heart

1742
01:16:38.700 --> 01:16:41.539
and God started really convicting me

1743
01:16:42.103 --> 01:16:44.320
to really hear his voice.

1744
01:16:44.540 --> 01:16:46.920
And I put her picture above my truck.

1745
01:16:47.040 --> 01:16:49.320
And one day on the way to work, I flipped it down.

1746
01:16:49.400 --> 01:16:51.540
I said, Lord, if she needs a daddy, I'll be her daddy.

1747
01:16:52.162 --> 01:16:53.840
And that's really where it started for me.

1748
01:16:54.301 --> 01:16:57.500
And it was a powerful, powerful thing to see what God had.

1749
01:16:57.960 --> 01:17:01.500
The adoption story is an amazing thing for us

1750
01:17:01.843 --> 01:17:03.119
and what God was doing in my life.

1751
01:17:04.148 --> 01:17:04.680
How long is it?

1752
01:17:05.731 --> 01:17:05.920
Sorry.

1753
01:17:06.447 --> 01:17:07.000
No, it's great.

1754
01:17:07.000 --> 01:17:07.700
I want you to keep going.

1755
01:17:07.780 --> 01:17:09.139
But how many years ago was that?

1756
01:17:09.802 --> 01:17:11.260
It was about 14 years ago.

1757
01:17:12.003 --> 01:17:13.700
And 14, 15, Deb, I can't remember.

1758
01:17:13.800 --> 01:17:17.040
Debbie's better on time, but it was about 15 years ago, about now.

1759
01:17:17.380 --> 01:17:19.460
So it was 15 years ago.

1760
01:17:19.560 --> 01:17:21.032
So we started with one.

1761
01:17:22.180 --> 01:17:23.039
And so we go there.

1762
01:17:24.265 --> 01:17:25.100
We finally get to go.

1763
01:17:25.280 --> 01:17:29.340
And when you go to India, some provinces are different than others.

1764
01:17:29.840 --> 01:17:36.380
And so we went to, we go to Hyderabad and you have to go twice.

1765
01:17:37.240 --> 01:17:41.140
Their laws say you have to go to court and then you have to leave and then go back and get her.

1766
01:17:42.021 --> 01:17:48.380
So a guy who didn't want to go at first to go get her, because I was kind of like, oh, man, a 16-hour flight.

1767
01:17:48.840 --> 01:17:52.840
The Lord took us to the furthest place you could go on an airplane, to India and China.

1768
01:17:53.040 --> 01:17:55.540
You know, I'm like, direct 16 hours, you know.

1769
01:17:56.281 --> 01:18:00.780
And so we go there, and Debbie and I are here.

1770
01:18:01.081 --> 01:18:01.485
We're in our 50s.

1771
01:18:03.120 --> 01:18:04.697
We're going down through India.

1772
01:18:05.823 --> 01:18:10.278
and we get to the orphanage and it's hot.

1773
01:18:12.180 --> 01:18:15.240
There's kids don't have shoes and there's all the,

1774
01:18:15.400 --> 01:18:16.980
there's no, they sleep on the ground

1775
01:18:17.664 --> 01:18:20.620
and you're watching and you see all the poverty

1776
01:18:20.721 --> 01:18:22.420
and you see the brokenness.

1777
01:18:23.240 --> 01:18:26.140
And you know, so often you feel like you really know Jesus

1778
01:18:26.424 --> 01:18:27.260
and you think you know him.

1779
01:18:27.321 --> 01:18:28.200
I was a ball player.

1780
01:18:28.900 --> 01:18:30.220
I was, I had been a youth minister.

1781
01:18:30.461 --> 01:18:31.780
I thought I really knew Jesus.

1782
01:18:34.128 --> 01:18:37.700
and they brought her around the corner,

1783
01:18:38.989 --> 01:18:39.620
this little girl.

1784
01:18:41.103 --> 01:18:42.759
And I just looked at her

1785
01:18:43.989 --> 01:18:45.240
and she had her head down.

1786
01:18:45.680 --> 01:18:47.860
And something that I always do with my girls

1787
01:18:48.712 --> 01:18:49.320
because they're always,

1788
01:18:49.500 --> 01:18:51.200
they were pushed down so much in their life,

1789
01:18:51.360 --> 01:18:52.139
they have their head down.

1790
01:18:52.521 --> 01:18:54.619
And men, you need to do this with your little ones.

1791
01:18:56.146 --> 01:18:57.059
I lifted her chin up

1792
01:18:58.631 --> 01:18:59.799
and I looked at her in the eyes.

1793
01:19:02.183 --> 01:19:04.760
And as I looked at her, I heard the Lord speak to my heart.

1794
01:19:06.963 --> 01:19:08.879
My pride and what I thought I was.

1795
01:19:10.462 --> 01:19:13.140
And he said, hey, this is my kingdom.

1796
01:19:15.166 --> 01:19:15.919
This is my heart.

1797
01:19:16.323 --> 01:19:16.860
That's right.

1798
01:19:17.641 --> 01:19:18.126
It's the least.

1799
01:19:20.504 --> 01:19:21.200
It's the least.

1800
01:19:21.800 --> 01:19:23.600
And oh, Rocky, by the way, guess what?

1801
01:19:24.342 --> 01:19:25.860
That was you before you knew me.

1802
01:19:26.883 --> 01:19:29.139
You were scarred and broken and you had no hope.

1803
01:19:30.070 --> 01:19:30.800
It was the gospel.

1804
01:19:31.868 --> 01:19:32.997
right in front of my eyes in India.

1805
01:19:34.262 --> 01:19:35.780
And I'm not saying everybody has to go adopt.

1806
01:19:36.842 --> 01:19:40.080
But if you hear the call of God, whatever it is,

1807
01:19:40.140 --> 01:19:41.299
maybe it's somebody in a store

1808
01:19:41.783 --> 01:19:43.920
or maybe it's at the nursing home

1809
01:19:43.960 --> 01:19:46.000
or wherever God calls you,

1810
01:19:46.482 --> 01:19:47.880
if it's that or whatever it is,

1811
01:19:47.920 --> 01:19:50.140
if you hear his voice and you obey him,

1812
01:19:50.642 --> 01:19:51.620
this is something I was learning.

1813
01:19:51.720 --> 01:19:53.900
When you obey him and you follow through,

1814
01:19:54.340 --> 01:19:57.320
God pours out his spirit and his blessing

1815
01:19:57.807 --> 01:19:58.679
and it's powerful.

1816
01:19:59.202 --> 01:20:03.080
even though it can be hard and you know, you don't know, you don't always understand,

1817
01:20:03.661 --> 01:20:05.086
but if he's in it, you win it.

1818
01:20:05.247 --> 01:20:07.534
If he's a part of it, God will provide.

1819
01:20:08.156 --> 01:20:09.340
And I got to experience

1820
01:20:09.782 --> 01:20:11.788
by trusting God and obeying him.

1821
01:20:12.411 --> 01:20:15.180
And it's not that Debbie and I are, no, we're, I'm a sinner

1822
01:20:15.341 --> 01:20:17.829
saved by grace, the grace of God.

1823
01:20:18.130 --> 01:20:21.240
And what pastor was talking about today, that spirit that's in

1824
01:20:21.360 --> 01:20:25.131
you when it comes out, you do great things for God.

1825
01:20:25.151 --> 01:20:28.300
I mean, it's, you know, it's not you,

1826
01:20:29.141 --> 01:20:40.040
You see God's power come out and you see lives changed and you see him work in ways that you exceedingly and abundantly above anything you could ever ask or hope for.

1827
01:20:40.301 --> 01:20:44.219
When you're obedient to God, even if it costs you everything, it's worth it.

1828
01:20:44.721 --> 01:20:48.280
And I saw that when I looked into her eyes, I saw the face of Christ.

1829
01:20:48.681 --> 01:20:53.780
And I also saw my depravity and that I don't have it together, but I know he does.

1830
01:20:54.300 --> 01:20:55.620
And so that was the start of it.

1831
01:20:55.821 --> 01:21:00.120
And the guy who didn't want to go to India, Debbie and I got to spend time with her.

1832
01:21:00.362 --> 01:21:01.780
And then they took her away from us.

1833
01:21:01.820 --> 01:21:04.840
And I knew what she was going through, some tough times.

1834
01:21:06.045 --> 01:21:06.919
We had to leave.

1835
01:21:07.240 --> 01:21:14.180
And I tell you what, it was the hardest thing I've ever done in my life to leave her behind and have to go back.

1836
01:21:14.281 --> 01:21:15.420
They said it would be six weeks.

1837
01:21:15.821 --> 01:21:18.040
And it was six months before we could go back and get her.

1838
01:21:18.784 --> 01:21:19.800
And we finally got her.

1839
01:21:20.402 --> 01:21:27.180
and you know and it was for you that are praying for people the church the warfare that's out there

1840
01:21:27.923 --> 01:21:32.259
what we were crying out for was our people to pray when you know people are doing things the

1841
01:21:32.520 --> 01:21:36.960
power of God and the power of prayer is so important and if you don't want to adopt if

1842
01:21:37.060 --> 01:21:42.760
you bless financially people that are in that you know secretly blessed you know just bless them to

1843
01:21:42.860 --> 01:21:47.980
help them along because you know God's doing great things through that but that's what the Lord was

1844
01:21:48.060 --> 01:21:51.232
showing me and gave me a heart for the broken.

1845
01:21:51.252 --> 01:21:53.480
And I had already been working with kids my whole

1846
01:21:53.500 --> 01:21:53.681
life.

1847
01:21:53.701 --> 01:21:56.673
When I left professional baseball, God called me into ministry.

1848
01:21:57.256 --> 01:21:58.200
And I'm the last guy

1849
01:21:58.742 --> 01:22:00.732
in the world that ever was supposed to be a minister.

1850
01:22:01.435 --> 01:22:02.440
You guys would think, you know,

1851
01:22:02.620 --> 01:22:06.520
I was, you know, I got saved through fellowship of Christian athletes in high school.

1852
01:22:07.701 --> 01:22:11.873
And it was, I mean, I had a teacher, Mr. Hughes.

1853
01:22:12.595 --> 01:22:13.517
He was my English teacher.

1854
01:22:13.537 --> 01:22:14.420
Before I knew Jesus,

1855
01:22:14.500 --> 01:22:20.480
he he was I was in class cutting up in class in English class college comp and I was supposed to

1856
01:22:20.480 --> 01:22:24.320
be doing something and I was cutting up and he was a really good guy came to all of our events

1857
01:22:24.841 --> 01:22:31.220
in the middle of class he goes hey Coyle he said you'd be a good minister preacher I looked at him

1858
01:22:31.260 --> 01:22:36.100
and I go and all my friends started laughing because believe me I wasn't a preacher at that

1859
01:22:36.200 --> 01:22:43.140
point and and he said yeah he goes you would be a great preacher Rocky and he was speaking into my

1860
01:22:43.240 --> 01:22:44.865
life way back there in high school.

1861
01:22:45.728 --> 01:22:49.400
30 years later, my high school coach died and I went back

1862
01:22:49.460 --> 01:22:51.830
to do the funeral after I had become a minister.

1863
01:22:52.131 --> 01:22:54.280
And I'm in the middle of the funeral and I look

1864
01:22:54.400 --> 01:22:56.832
out and there's Mr. Hughes sitting there out there in the audience.

1865
01:22:57.455 --> 01:22:58.499
And he's sitting there like this.

1866
01:23:00.841 --> 01:23:01.623
Oh, that's great.

1867
01:23:03.830 --> 01:23:07.480
And I was looking at him in the middle of the funeral like this and he goes,

1868
01:23:07.580 --> 01:23:08.162
I told you.

1869
01:23:09.066 --> 01:23:10.070
And I said, I know.

1870
01:23:10.471 --> 01:23:12.620
And so, you know, you saw, but that was another thing where he was

1871
01:23:12.680 --> 01:23:14.566
speaking into my life and I didn't even know it.

1872
01:23:15.529 --> 01:23:19.040
So they'll through, so faith and, and no following

1873
01:23:19.201 --> 01:23:19.682
Jesus.

1874
01:23:19.803 --> 01:23:22.915
And after baseball, I was a youth minister for 25 years.

1875
01:23:22.935 --> 01:23:24.180
And one of the reasons for you,

1876
01:23:24.560 --> 01:23:25.424
everybody's listening.

1877
01:23:25.946 --> 01:23:29.060
When I was going around to different cities and, you know, I got to play with

1878
01:23:29.120 --> 01:23:34.940
Mark McGuire, Mark McGuire was, I say they played with me, but you know, you know, when I was with

1879
01:23:34.940 --> 01:23:39.175
the A's, I hit third, Conseco hit fourth and McGuire hit fifth.

1880
01:23:39.817 --> 01:23:40.700
Number three hitter was the

1881
01:23:40.720 --> 01:23:41.904
best hitter, by the way.

1882
01:23:41.964 --> 01:23:42.727
I just wanted to say that.

1883
01:23:44.131 --> 01:23:45.857
Also, I'd be in the outfield.

1884
01:23:46.499 --> 01:23:46.740
I'd be in

1885
01:23:46.760 --> 01:23:50.596
the outfield and people would be going, look, it's an Oompa Loompa in the outfield.

1886
01:23:51.279 --> 01:23:51.560
And they would

1887
01:23:51.640 --> 01:23:53.990
say, follow the yellow brick road.

1888
01:23:54.010 --> 01:23:56.480
You know, people from the stands, I heard it all being short.

1889
01:23:56.820 --> 01:24:01.700
And so when you're on deck with McGuire and Conseco, it's like, you look like their little

1890
01:24:01.800 --> 01:24:07.000
brother, you know, but, but anyway, they, you know, so, but when I played baseball, what God

1891
01:24:07.080 --> 01:24:13.300
was preparing was I, as I followed Jesus and I was, you know, every place I went, God would have

1892
01:24:13.320 --> 01:24:14.826
me speak at little places.

1893
01:24:14.886 --> 01:24:18.620
And, and, but I started hearing the cries of this generation.

1894
01:24:20.821 --> 01:24:22.146
My mommy and daddy broke up.

1895
01:24:22.206 --> 01:24:23.330
My mom's a drug addict.

1896
01:24:23.752 --> 01:24:26.120
And the cries of these kids over and

1897
01:24:26.261 --> 01:24:28.752
over again for truth and for someone to love them.

1898
01:24:29.194 --> 01:24:30.640
And I started hearing that in my heart,

1899
01:24:30.680 --> 01:24:34.172
and I didn't know what it meant to be a calling on your life to be a minister.

1900
01:24:34.734 --> 01:24:36.540
And, and then God

1901
01:24:36.761 --> 01:24:37.744
started working in me.

1902
01:24:38.226 --> 01:24:42.440
And when I went, I left baseball and I went in and asked for my release

1903
01:24:42.681 --> 01:24:46.134
and God called me into baseball from baseball into the ministry.

1904
01:24:46.656 --> 01:24:47.800
And everybody said, you're crazy,

1905
01:24:47.920 --> 01:24:50.248
man, to leave baseball and to do all this.

1906
01:24:50.288 --> 01:24:53.680
And one of the reasons why I'd shared this before

1907
01:24:55.308 --> 01:24:57.820
my son, Joshua was just about ready to start kindergarten.

1908
01:24:59.963 --> 01:25:02.820
And Debbie and him caught up to me in baseball and they caught up in this town

1909
01:25:03.886 --> 01:25:06.220
And we were at a restaurant eating, and I was going to the salad bar,

1910
01:25:06.300 --> 01:25:08.240
and my son goes, Daddy!

1911
01:25:08.702 --> 01:25:10.620
And he grabs my pocket of my pants.

1912
01:25:11.782 --> 01:25:13.380
He goes, Daddy, you leaving again, Daddy?

1913
01:25:13.480 --> 01:25:13.985
Don't go!

1914
01:25:14.349 --> 01:25:15.440
Don't go, Daddy, please!

1915
01:25:17.481 --> 01:25:20.120
And I just looked at him, and God was really speaking in my heart and said,

1916
01:25:21.209 --> 01:25:22.580
you don't need to leave your son anymore.

1917
01:25:24.003 --> 01:25:25.660
So one of the reasons I was called into ministry,

1918
01:25:25.780 --> 01:25:27.600
but I wanted to have a relationship with my boy.

1919
01:25:28.381 --> 01:25:31.140
He's 43 now, and he asks me to go to coffee every week

1920
01:25:31.885 --> 01:25:33.760
because we have a relationship and he knows Jesus.

1921
01:25:34.582 --> 01:25:35.759
But when I took him to college

1922
01:25:36.665 --> 01:25:39.180
and I was dropping him off,

1923
01:25:40.500 --> 01:25:42.460
he's a real man of few words

1924
01:25:42.864 --> 01:25:44.580
and I was dropping him off to play baseball

1925
01:25:44.580 --> 01:25:45.939
at the NC State University.

1926
01:25:47.541 --> 01:25:49.760
He said, Daddy, or he said, I was walking out.

1927
01:25:49.800 --> 01:25:50.379
He goes, hey, Dad.

1928
01:25:51.441 --> 01:25:52.580
He goes, I know what you did, man.

1929
01:25:53.826 --> 01:25:54.500
He goes, thanks.

1930
01:25:57.223 --> 01:25:58.799
But all the money in the world, guys,

1931
01:25:59.662 --> 01:26:03.551
and families, all that stuff that's going to pass away.

1932
01:26:04.253 --> 01:26:05.296
None of that stuff matters.

1933
01:26:06.559 --> 01:26:06.960
None of it.

1934
01:26:08.821 --> 01:26:13.740
Those riches and things that, you know, they're gone, but following Jesus has been the greatest

1935
01:26:13.900 --> 01:26:14.903
experience of my life.

1936
01:26:15.605 --> 01:26:17.150
And so that's the most important thing.

1937
01:26:18.855 --> 01:26:20.560
And that dad, that dad that I

1938
01:26:20.640 --> 01:26:25.174
told you about, my father, Terry, he gave his life to Jesus in his forties.

1939
01:26:26.037 --> 01:26:26.980
And he came to me again,

1940
01:26:27.060 --> 01:26:30.399
just like when I was a little boy, he said, Rocky, if you die today, do you know where you go?

1941
01:26:30.419 --> 01:26:30.560
And I

1942
01:26:30.600 --> 01:26:32.468
want to go to heaven and all this stuff.

1943
01:26:32.489 --> 01:26:34.116
But he did the Romans road with me.

1944
01:26:34.156 --> 01:26:34.980
And I heard for the

1945
01:26:35.020 --> 01:26:36.286
first time that I was a sinner.

1946
01:26:37.050 --> 01:26:39.260
And my dad in his forties through fellowship of Christian athletes

1947
01:26:39.360 --> 01:26:40.386
gave his life to Christ.

1948
01:26:40.808 --> 01:26:43.300
And that was the foundation that I had a father, not only that

1949
01:26:43.360 --> 01:26:49.600
loved me there, but then he told me about Jesus and, and, you know, and my whole, my sister became

1950
01:26:49.680 --> 01:26:52.029
a missionary and I became a pastor.

1951
01:26:52.149 --> 01:26:53.896
All my brothers and sisters know Jesus.

1952
01:26:54.317 --> 01:26:55.060
They're, they're serving

1953
01:26:55.181 --> 01:26:55.582
the Lord.

1954
01:26:55.843 --> 01:26:59.700
And so we're at, and man, if you want to hear something awesome, this wasn't, people say

1955
01:26:59.901 --> 01:27:03.995
awesome, but my dad passed away recently and all the family was there.

1956
01:27:04.376 --> 01:27:05.520
All the generations know

1957
01:27:05.620 --> 01:27:09.673
Jesus because my dad came to Christ and stood for Christ and live for Christ.

1958
01:27:10.596 --> 01:27:11.720
And, and all these

1959
01:27:11.820 --> 01:27:12.623
generations.

1960
01:27:12.683 --> 01:27:17.140
And my dad, I heard at the end of his life would give 90% of his money to ministries

1961
01:27:17.240 --> 01:27:17.963
and all these things.

1962
01:27:18.225 --> 01:27:19.972
And he was an encourager and a discipler.

1963
01:27:20.373 --> 01:27:21.599
So he goes, he died.

1964
01:27:21.639 --> 01:27:21.960
He's when

1965
01:27:21.980 --> 01:27:24.332
he's dying, he's, he's breathing his last.

1966
01:27:24.372 --> 01:27:26.060
And you guys need to hear this because all these things

1967
01:27:26.060 --> 01:27:29.071
that we get busy with, my dad was taken.

1968
01:27:29.592 --> 01:27:31.780
He was, you know, he was at that point where he wasn't

1969
01:27:31.820 --> 01:27:32.162
moving.

1970
01:27:32.182 --> 01:27:36.078
He was just breathing and hospice had him and all the family was around.

1971
01:27:36.098 --> 01:27:36.600
And we had the

1972
01:27:36.680 --> 01:27:43.040
video playing of my mom and dad's wedding and all of us kids growing up and all the siblings were

1973
01:27:43.141 --> 01:27:45.635
in the, in the grandchildren were around his bed.

1974
01:27:45.897 --> 01:27:46.380
And he was like,

1975
01:27:51.212 --> 01:27:54.200
and all of a sudden he hadn't moved for two or three days and he leaned up

1976
01:27:58.848 --> 01:28:03.780
and he fell back and he died it was his last breath and i looked we looked up and a tear

1977
01:28:04.181 --> 01:28:09.820
came out of his eyes and my little brother jumped on his chest and if the world watched this they

1978
01:28:09.840 --> 01:28:11.304
would think we were crazy.

1979
01:28:11.925 --> 01:28:17.840
My little brother jumps on his chest and goes, go dad, go, go dad.

1980
01:28:18.661 --> 01:28:21.252
And he took the tear and he wiped it on all of the kids.

1981
01:28:21.613 --> 01:28:22.858
A tear came out of his eyes.

1982
01:28:23.119 --> 01:28:23.260
It was

1983
01:28:23.280 --> 01:28:26.293
almost like he was leaning to the finish line at the end of his life.

1984
01:28:26.795 --> 01:28:27.820
And then I stood up,

1985
01:28:28.120 --> 01:28:32.280
I stood up like this and I don't know why we did this, but I stood up and I started clapping,

1986
01:28:32.820 --> 01:28:36.292
standing ovation for the greatest man of God I ever knew.

1987
01:28:36.654 --> 01:28:38.380
And everybody stood up and cheered.

1988
01:28:38.867 --> 01:28:39.800
and I was sitting there going,

1989
01:28:39.941 --> 01:28:40.740
people looked at this,

1990
01:28:40.841 --> 01:28:41.559
we think we're crazy,

1991
01:28:41.723 --> 01:28:42.500
but as believers,

1992
01:28:43.006 --> 01:28:44.079
that's the blessed hope.

1993
01:28:45.103 --> 01:28:46.240
Sorry, I didn't mean to start preaching,

1994
01:28:46.400 --> 01:28:46.740
but that's what I was saying.

1995
01:28:46.822 --> 01:28:47.678
Oh, you go, you go.

1996
01:28:49.245 --> 01:28:50.157
But that's what, amen.

1997
01:28:51.044 --> 01:28:52.860
If you want what really is truth,

1998
01:28:53.240 --> 01:28:55.600
it's not in the fame and the fortune

1999
01:28:55.763 --> 01:28:56.540
and all these things.

2000
01:28:56.923 --> 01:28:58.239
It's in that little orphanage

2001
01:28:58.523 --> 01:28:59.738
where you see the face of God,

2002
01:29:00.000 --> 01:29:01.480
whether it's a store clerk

2003
01:29:01.924 --> 01:29:03.600
that is thinking about killing themselves

2004
01:29:03.721 --> 01:29:05.340
and you come in and speak life to them.

2005
01:29:06.203 --> 01:29:07.820
We have the power of God in us

2006
01:29:07.820 --> 01:29:12.260
So we can change lives just by being just the ordinary folks that we are.

2007
01:29:12.581 --> 01:29:14.500
But we're extraordinary for Jesus Christ.

2008
01:29:14.600 --> 01:29:15.460
And that's just the way it is.

2009
01:29:15.480 --> 01:29:15.612
Amen.

2010
01:29:16.548 --> 01:29:17.040
That's awesome.

2011
01:29:19.390 --> 01:29:19.799
I love it.

2012
01:29:21.513 --> 01:29:21.679
Moving.

2013
01:29:22.020 --> 01:29:24.360
So I don't know how much you want to share.

2014
01:29:26.444 --> 01:29:28.220
I mean, you want to be discreet, I'm sure.

2015
01:29:28.340 --> 01:29:33.520
But these young ladies that God brought into you in Debbie's life,

2016
01:29:36.212 --> 01:29:37.900
these weren't little Hollywood starlets.

2017
01:29:39.160 --> 01:29:41.700
These were, you mentioned, we saw in the video today

2018
01:29:41.841 --> 01:29:45.660
that two of the Chinese little girls were found in boxes

2019
01:29:46.604 --> 01:29:50.340
to be disposed of because I would imagine China's policy,

2020
01:29:50.520 --> 01:29:52.257
plus remember there's no God in China,

2021
01:29:52.720 --> 01:29:55.780
so life's very low valued.

2022
01:29:57.881 --> 01:30:00.900
But then you also, if I remember the video correct,

2023
01:30:01.648 --> 01:30:01.809
the

2024
01:30:04.973 --> 01:30:06.080
the two Indian girls

2025
01:30:06.445 --> 01:30:06.933
they had been

2026
01:30:08.673 --> 01:30:09.300
abused or

2027
01:30:10.731 --> 01:30:11.800
if you guys think of any

2028
01:30:11.881 --> 01:30:14.000
you know it's like everything you read about

2029
01:30:14.404 --> 01:30:15.659
was probably happening you know

2030
01:30:16.798 --> 01:30:16.880
and

2031
01:30:18.551 --> 01:30:19.860
the first one Leah we knew

2032
01:30:20.021 --> 01:30:21.920
I shared with you she had been burned and left

2033
01:30:21.940 --> 01:30:23.840
to die and she folks by the way she just

2034
01:30:23.880 --> 01:30:25.900
got back from her second missionary trip

2035
01:30:26.104 --> 01:30:26.740
with YWAM

2036
01:30:27.587 --> 01:30:29.080
she's sharing the gospel all over the world

2037
01:30:29.221 --> 01:30:30.760
that little girl that first one

2038
01:30:31.423 --> 01:30:32.286
And she's a dynamo.

2039
01:30:32.307 --> 01:30:35.400
I took, you take her to the airport and her backpack was three times bigger

2040
01:30:35.480 --> 01:30:35.902
than her.

2041
01:30:36.303 --> 01:30:37.206
And she's like, bye dad.

2042
01:30:37.226 --> 01:30:38.871
And I'm like, yeah.

2043
01:30:39.072 --> 01:30:39.914
Oh wow.

2044
01:30:40.717 --> 01:30:41.640
Cause you seen her from the

2045
01:30:41.660 --> 01:30:41.961
beginning.

2046
01:30:41.981 --> 01:30:44.167
And then Savita, oh my goodness.

2047
01:30:44.488 --> 01:30:46.594
Savita is a dynamo.

2048
01:30:46.955 --> 01:30:48.820
She was four and her,

2049
01:30:48.980 --> 01:30:50.186
she was abandoned at four.

2050
01:30:50.227 --> 01:30:52.660
And she said, daddy, I looked for my mommy for two days

2051
01:30:53.302 --> 01:30:54.225
and I couldn't find her.

2052
01:30:54.686 --> 01:30:55.890
And so she was abandoned.

2053
01:30:56.371 --> 01:30:59.180
And then, um, she, someone helped her get food.

2054
01:30:59.260 --> 01:31:05.160
And then a crazy person, she ended up having her throat cut and she almost died.

2055
01:31:05.722 --> 01:31:06.460
She survived.

2056
01:31:08.021 --> 01:31:11.060
She just recently, she graduated from Liberty University in one year.

2057
01:31:11.460 --> 01:31:15.680
And she finished, she went to JUCO, junior college for a little bit, but she finished

2058
01:31:15.743 --> 01:31:16.080
in a year.

2059
01:31:16.360 --> 01:31:18.240
Then she got her master's in seven months.

2060
01:31:18.983 --> 01:31:21.740
I tell people she gets her brains from me, of course.

2061
01:31:22.620 --> 01:31:26.300
But, and she's one of the greatest apologists I've ever met.

2062
01:31:26.861 --> 01:31:33.938
she is frank you watch out because she is like i know frank was just here but she's amazing amazing

2063
01:31:34.801 --> 01:31:40.918
woman uh just to watch her and and see what she's done beautiful uh young lady then chichi chichi is

2064
01:31:41.700 --> 01:31:47.780
our stylista man she is when i first met her she could talk english a little bit she go daddy i get

2065
01:31:47.880 --> 01:31:53.520
cell phone put it here and i walk like this you know and i'm like what you know now she's an

2066
01:31:53.600 --> 01:31:56.170
esthetician and she loves Jesus.

2067
01:31:56.210 --> 01:31:58.900
And if you watch the video online, it talks about her salvation.

2068
01:31:58.940 --> 01:32:05.100
You have the full video, but Chi Chi was, um, Chi Chi, Chi Chi was, uh, they found her with

2069
01:32:05.100 --> 01:32:09.836
her umbilical cord still attached and a box and with a little pink blanket.

2070
01:32:10.518 --> 01:32:11.080
And I remember one

2071
01:32:11.160 --> 01:32:14.256
day she asked me, she goes, daddy, do you think they still have that pink blanket?

2072
01:32:14.758 --> 01:32:15.140
And I said,

2073
01:32:15.200 --> 01:32:16.404
no, I don't think so.

2074
01:32:16.465 --> 01:32:20.580
But, but just to see what God's done in her life is a powerful thing.

2075
01:32:21.202 --> 01:32:25.240
And then Abigail's, Chi Chi, Chi Chi was our third.

2076
01:32:25.700 --> 01:32:32.100
And with Chi Chi and the next little girl, Abigail, they were both found in the box like Pastor was saying.

2077
01:32:32.780 --> 01:32:42.040
And when they were brought in, they slept in the same bed their whole lives from when they were babies all the way up throughout their lives.

2078
01:32:42.080 --> 01:32:45.140
So when we went to get Chi Chi, we got her.

2079
01:32:45.280 --> 01:32:45.760
They brought her.

2080
01:32:45.880 --> 01:32:51.880
There's, to explain, it's like, if we live in North Carolina, Raleigh is the capital.

2081
01:32:53.141 --> 01:32:56.880
What they do is they bring the child from whatever province or state they're in.

2082
01:32:57.540 --> 01:33:03.760
Like, if you were in Carolina, if I was in Carolina, they would bring the child from whatever area it was.

2083
01:33:04.261 --> 01:33:07.860
If it was in California, they'd fly them all the way to Raleigh, wherever they were.

2084
01:33:08.241 --> 01:33:10.137
So they brought her to the capital.

2085
01:33:11.442 --> 01:33:15.700
We did our business with the Chinese, and then we got invited back to the orphanage.

2086
01:33:15.760 --> 01:33:16.820
which usually doesn't happen.

2087
01:33:17.621 --> 01:33:19.800
So we go there, and while Debbie and I are there,

2088
01:33:19.900 --> 01:33:21.160
they have this big luncheon.

2089
01:33:21.500 --> 01:33:25.000
Nobody had ever adopted kids their age from that orphanage.

2090
01:33:25.321 --> 01:33:26.139
We were the first ones.

2091
01:33:26.641 --> 01:33:27.980
And people had shirts on and says,

2092
01:33:28.080 --> 01:33:31.340
we will never forget you because we adopted these girls.

2093
01:33:31.660 --> 01:33:32.708
Rocky, what age is that?

2094
01:33:34.741 --> 01:33:37.420
They were like six, seven, eight, you know, the older.

2095
01:33:37.440 --> 01:33:38.300
Is it considered too old?

2096
01:33:38.380 --> 01:33:39.380
Yeah, too old.

2097
01:33:39.620 --> 01:33:40.519
It's considered too old.

2098
01:33:41.180 --> 01:33:43.840
So it's just most people want babies,

2099
01:33:44.727 --> 01:33:46.420
and nobody wants the older children.

2100
01:33:47.180 --> 01:33:50.340
I don't, and especially women, girls are really hard.

2101
01:33:51.001 --> 01:33:53.760
A lot of times they steal kids out of the orphanage

2102
01:33:53.780 --> 01:33:56.020
and they use them for what you guys hear on TV about.

2103
01:33:57.124 --> 01:33:58.680
And so there's a lot of abuse in there.

2104
01:33:58.821 --> 01:34:02.700
So when I went, when Debbie and I went there,

2105
01:34:03.368 --> 01:34:04.100
they had the luncheon

2106
01:34:04.140 --> 01:34:06.040
and they brought her best friend out, Abigail.

2107
01:34:06.924 --> 01:34:07.779
And the funny thing was,

2108
01:34:07.940 --> 01:34:09.420
Chi Chi had been screaming for two days

2109
01:34:09.521 --> 01:34:12.340
because they told her if she wasn't good

2110
01:34:12.360 --> 01:34:15.691
that they would, the new people would eat you like for dinner.

2111
01:34:16.453 --> 01:34:18.580
So she was afraid of us and she had

2112
01:34:18.660 --> 01:34:20.949
never seen blonde hair, blue eye people.

2113
01:34:20.969 --> 01:34:23.640
She thought everybody in America was, I go, no, we are a

2114
01:34:24.041 --> 01:34:24.963
wonderful country.

2115
01:34:24.983 --> 01:34:25.625
You'll love it here.

2116
01:34:26.247 --> 01:34:31.260
And so they, uh, they bring in Abigail Ling Yung Faye.

2117
01:34:31.401 --> 01:34:32.505
She was right next to me.

2118
01:34:32.926 --> 01:34:35.798
And this girl, Chi Chi had been screaming for two days.

2119
01:34:35.858 --> 01:34:36.420
I look at Debbie,

2120
01:34:36.520 --> 01:34:37.444
my wife's from Jersey.

2121
01:34:37.705 --> 01:34:38.629
She doesn't mess around.

2122
01:34:38.910 --> 01:34:41.260
And I said, Hey, I think God, we ought to adopt

2123
01:34:41.300 --> 01:34:41.943
this other girl.

2124
01:34:41.963 --> 01:34:45.320
And Debbie goes, have you heard this girl screaming for two days and you want to

2125
01:34:45.340 --> 01:34:46.425
adopt another one already?

2126
01:34:46.967 --> 01:34:49.860
You know, and we were just, you know, going back and forth and God moved

2127
01:34:49.920 --> 01:34:50.422
in her heart.

2128
01:34:51.144 --> 01:34:56.120
And, uh, we went after Abigail, uh, we, a year later we go after her and we get

2129
01:34:56.280 --> 01:34:56.782
Abigail.

2130
01:34:57.403 --> 01:35:01.333
And when we got done, it was four kids in four years.

2131
01:35:02.637 --> 01:35:04.000
And Debbie and I were exhausted.

2132
01:35:05.864 --> 01:35:13.460
we were like yay okay god no more and and this is how funny god is pastor it's like so we're done

2133
01:35:14.362 --> 01:35:21.320
and and you know we're and debbie is the hero i told these guys earlier my wife deserves the

2134
01:35:21.380 --> 01:35:26.660
major award you hear in a christmas story she deserves the major award the paperwork the

2135
01:35:26.720 --> 01:35:33.420
homeschooling the the the trauma the the specialists the counselors all the stuff that came with it

2136
01:35:33.983 --> 01:35:35.975
My wife is a champion.

2137
01:35:37.240 --> 01:35:37.740
Believe me.

2138
01:35:38.200 --> 01:35:43.560
She is the one that did what, you know, she's an amazing, amazing lady.

2139
01:35:44.140 --> 01:35:49.060
So we get done, and God is so powerful, you guys, how he does things.

2140
01:35:49.601 --> 01:35:50.400
You don't see it coming.

2141
01:35:50.721 --> 01:35:52.220
We didn't see the four adoptions coming.

2142
01:35:53.403 --> 01:35:54.339
I wasn't looking at that.

2143
01:35:54.780 --> 01:35:57.120
Debbie and I were antiquing together.

2144
01:35:57.661 --> 01:35:58.760
Our kids were gone.

2145
01:35:58.880 --> 01:36:00.100
We're like, let's go to Disneyland.

2146
01:36:00.702 --> 01:36:01.700
Let's go to Disney World.

2147
01:36:02.122 --> 01:36:05.840
We were having so much fun, and then God said, I want you to adopt.

2148
01:36:06.180 --> 01:36:08.340
And next thing you know, I'm buying a Sienna van.

2149
01:36:08.641 --> 01:36:09.560
I go, a van?

2150
01:36:10.304 --> 01:36:11.920
Oh, my goodness, another van.

2151
01:36:12.140 --> 01:36:13.120
You've got to be kidding me.

2152
01:36:13.961 --> 01:36:18.537
So we get done with the four, and we're around the table,

2153
01:36:19.420 --> 01:36:21.540
and the Chinese are talking to each other in Chinese.

2154
01:36:22.962 --> 01:36:24.520
This is the United Nations at your table.

2155
01:36:24.582 --> 01:36:25.119
Oh, I know, man.

2156
01:36:25.664 --> 01:36:26.720
Maybe Africa next.

2157
01:36:27.103 --> 01:36:28.420
That's what we were talking about.

2158
01:36:29.060 --> 01:36:33.360
So we're around the table, and we had taken the paperwork, thrown it away.

2159
01:36:33.460 --> 01:36:35.060
We had a party at the church.

2160
01:36:35.561 --> 01:36:37.520
Everybody came, all the people that supported us,

2161
01:36:37.580 --> 01:36:40.020
all the people that financially gave to us and everything.

2162
01:36:40.220 --> 01:36:40.940
We celebrated.

2163
01:36:41.040 --> 01:36:41.699
We had videos.

2164
01:36:42.161 --> 01:36:44.600
We had their scrapbooks of each kid out there.

2165
01:36:44.981 --> 01:36:47.300
We get home that week or so, and they're around.

2166
01:36:47.361 --> 01:36:48.240
The Chinese are around.

2167
01:36:48.300 --> 01:36:51.000
And we had seen this other girl when we were at the orphanage,

2168
01:36:51.502 --> 01:36:55.020
and she had a wine stain on her face, a big red one.

2169
01:36:55.020 --> 01:36:58.080
and they told me nobody would want her because she's so ugly.

2170
01:36:59.221 --> 01:37:01.420
That was their words, and that she's not,

2171
01:37:01.721 --> 01:37:03.300
she's cursed because of her face.

2172
01:37:04.484 --> 01:37:05.980
And she was so sweet.

2173
01:37:07.201 --> 01:37:09.860
And the Chinese girls were talking,

2174
01:37:10.021 --> 01:37:12.560
and they're translating back and forth.

2175
01:37:13.060 --> 01:37:17.500
And Debbie and I hear that Anwen, her name was Anwen,

2176
01:37:18.082 --> 01:37:19.640
she used to sneak food,

2177
01:37:19.740 --> 01:37:22.440
because a lot of times their food would be stolen from them

2178
01:37:23.226 --> 01:37:24.860
by the workers, and they couldn't eat.

2179
01:37:25.823 --> 01:37:30.400
and so she would steal her she would keep her food and go and give it to them at night

2180
01:37:31.143 --> 01:37:34.660
and take care of them and she would protect them from the older kids

2181
01:37:36.085 --> 01:37:39.838
and they said that at the table and i was like oh no

2182
01:37:42.805 --> 01:37:49.380
why did you have to say that so and the only place debbie and i have any alone time is we're in the

2183
01:37:49.540 --> 01:37:55.020
we're in the bathroom because so I'm, I'm, and I'm going to tell you something, the power of God,

2184
01:37:55.100 --> 01:38:00.500
how he does things when you walk with him, it's kind of an exciting adventure sometimes because

2185
01:38:00.660 --> 01:38:05.280
you don't know what's going to happen, but it's cool when you go on the ride and you're going,

2186
01:38:05.460 --> 01:38:10.837
wow, all the way from leave baseball, become a pastor, go adopt at 50.

2187
01:38:10.877 --> 01:38:11.640
You know, you don't know.

2188
01:38:11.941 --> 01:38:14.027
So I'm in getting the shower.

2189
01:38:14.127 --> 01:38:15.692
Debbie's putting makeup on and stuff.

2190
01:38:16.294 --> 01:38:18.420
And, uh, this is, this

2191
01:38:18.480 --> 01:38:23.840
hasn't happened since, but I was in there and I knew God was telling me to go adopt that girl,

2192
01:38:25.323 --> 01:38:26.647
but we were so tired.

2193
01:38:27.730 --> 01:38:31.000
And the financial stuff you're trying to raise to do it is just overwhelming.

2194
01:38:32.441 --> 01:38:34.006
And I was talking to the Lord.

2195
01:38:34.026 --> 01:38:38.260
I said, Lord, do you really want, do you, I, your, your voice,

2196
01:38:38.360 --> 01:38:38.781
I hear it.

2197
01:38:39.563 --> 01:38:40.706
And there was a warmth.

2198
01:38:41.649 --> 01:38:42.571
It wasn't the water.

2199
01:38:42.671 --> 01:38:46.060
It was this, the Holy Spirit came over me

2200
01:38:46.922 --> 01:38:49.168
through my body into warm.

2201
01:38:49.289 --> 01:38:53.240
And I said, and it was, he said in my spirit, he said,

2202
01:38:53.862 --> 01:38:54.544
don't be afraid.

2203
01:38:54.765 --> 01:38:55.306
It's okay.

2204
01:38:55.748 --> 01:38:56.510
I know you're tired.

2205
01:38:56.952 --> 01:38:57.514
It's okay.

2206
01:38:58.397 --> 01:38:59.360
And it was his presence.

2207
01:39:00.241 --> 01:39:01.145
Like I'd never felt.

2208
01:39:01.225 --> 01:39:04.980
And then Debbie's from Jersey and she's at the, at the window or at the,

2209
01:39:05.060 --> 01:39:07.853
in the mirror going, did you hear that at the table?

2210
01:39:08.074 --> 01:39:09.360
She goes, we got to go get those kids.

2211
01:39:09.420 --> 01:39:09.821
Don't we?

2212
01:39:09.841 --> 01:39:15.940
I, that girl, I go, yeah, you know, so, so, but, but the incredible thing was when

2213
01:39:15.960 --> 01:39:20.932
you go to adopt, it's hard to do in a year.

2214
01:39:21.794 --> 01:39:23.317
Raising the money, paperwork.

2215
01:39:23.858 --> 01:39:24.540
So we call and

2216
01:39:24.560 --> 01:39:29.620
they go, hey, you know, this little girl, you know, we probably can't come get her, right?

2217
01:39:29.700 --> 01:39:30.563
Because we're too old.

2218
01:39:30.583 --> 01:39:32.671
And the lady goes, no, no, you're not too old.

2219
01:39:32.751 --> 01:39:34.216
I go, okay.

2220
01:39:34.858 --> 01:39:35.340
And we said,

2221
01:39:35.660 --> 01:39:39.760
well, you know, it's probably, and she goes, are you guys interested in that little girl?

2222
01:39:40.322 --> 01:39:41.927
and the agency knows us.

2223
01:39:41.987 --> 01:39:43.753
And so they checked it out.

2224
01:39:43.773 --> 01:39:46.100
They call us back and they said,

2225
01:39:46.860 --> 01:39:49.111
hey, you can adopt her.

2226
01:39:49.131 --> 01:39:50.316
I got good news and bad news.

2227
01:39:50.336 --> 01:39:51.080
You can adopt her.

2228
01:39:51.640 --> 01:39:53.285
But the good news is you can do it.

2229
01:39:53.565 --> 01:39:59.020
The bad news is that she turns 14 in three or four months.

2230
01:40:00.582 --> 01:40:02.629
And in China, you can't adopt them when they're 14.

2231
01:40:04.115 --> 01:40:04.877
She's real little.

2232
01:40:04.898 --> 01:40:05.560
So I didn't think she was

2233
01:40:05.600 --> 01:40:05.982
that old.

2234
01:40:06.544 --> 01:40:08.493
And Debbie and I prayed and we decided to go for it.

2235
01:40:09.115 --> 01:40:09.718
Let's go for it.

2236
01:40:09.738 --> 01:40:10.180
Let's raise the

2237
01:40:10.220 --> 01:40:10.481
money.

2238
01:40:10.983 --> 01:40:13.714
And so we just started going and people started out of nowhere.

2239
01:40:14.055 --> 01:40:14.577
Here's 20,000.

2240
01:40:14.597 --> 01:40:14.879
Here's

2241
01:40:15.360 --> 01:40:15.942
10,000.

2242
01:40:16.163 --> 01:40:16.765
Here's 5,000.

2243
01:40:16.966 --> 01:40:21.380
Our, our, our Congressman, our, our Senator got a person on and we started

2244
01:40:21.501 --> 01:40:21.922
cramming.

2245
01:40:21.963 --> 01:40:24.896
Debbie knew how to do the paperwork and we're just going for it.

2246
01:40:25.217 --> 01:40:25.860
Boom, boom, boom,

2247
01:40:25.940 --> 01:40:26.382
boom, man.

2248
01:40:26.402 --> 01:40:27.346
And it started coming.

2249
01:40:27.366 --> 01:40:28.250
The money came in.

2250
01:40:28.692 --> 01:40:30.360
One guy, you know, one guy gave me,

2251
01:40:30.500 --> 01:40:31.323
he's not even a Christian.

2252
01:40:31.343 --> 01:40:33.068
He gave me 5,000 for every kid.

2253
01:40:34.031 --> 01:40:34.853
He gave 25,000 total.

2254
01:40:34.873 --> 01:40:35.375
He's Italian

2255
01:40:37.381 --> 01:40:37.521
guy.

2256
01:40:37.542 --> 01:40:39.532
And he was like, Oh yo, what did you tell me?

2257
01:40:39.914 --> 01:40:40.899
You were having another kid.

2258
01:40:40.919 --> 01:40:41.160
And he goes,

2259
01:40:41.300 --> 01:40:42.425
I got a five for you.

2260
01:40:42.646 --> 01:40:46.160
At first I thought he said five bucks and he walks up, he gave me five grand.

2261
01:40:46.280 --> 01:40:47.544
I said, Whoa.

2262
01:40:47.684 --> 01:40:49.630
And so he did another guy gave me 10 grand.

2263
01:40:49.650 --> 01:40:53.020
So the money comes in and all of a sudden

2264
01:40:53.662 --> 01:40:56.029
they call us and say, come and we go.

2265
01:40:56.150 --> 01:40:58.958
And the guy's stamping this, our stuff in China.

2266
01:40:59.320 --> 01:40:59.460
And he

2267
01:40:59.520 --> 01:41:01.587
says, Ooh, you barely make it man.

2268
01:41:01.868 --> 01:41:02.791
And I said, yeah.

2269
01:41:03.473 --> 01:41:05.660
And I said, stamp that thing quick, you know?

2270
01:41:06.741 --> 01:41:07.927
And, and we get there.

2271
01:41:08.027 --> 01:41:10.660
And what I don't tell you is when the last little girl left,

2272
01:41:11.001 --> 01:41:15.420
that little girl that took care of them, she was holding the little, our, one of our daughters,

2273
01:41:15.521 --> 01:41:17.451
and she was weeping when she was leaving.

2274
01:41:17.471 --> 01:41:19.080
Cause she is, all of her friends were gone.

2275
01:41:20.621 --> 01:41:26.840
We have video of her weeping and a picture I took turned around and took of all the kids up there.

2276
01:41:26.901 --> 01:41:28.979
and her little face was up there watching her leave.

2277
01:41:30.160 --> 01:41:31.780
And you know what she said to me when she could talk?

2278
01:41:31.860 --> 01:41:33.319
She goes, Daddy, I couldn't believe

2279
01:41:33.804 --> 01:41:35.199
that you came back to get me.

2280
01:41:37.823 --> 01:41:39.700
And she goes, my face, you know?

2281
01:41:40.181 --> 01:41:41.960
I said, your face is beautiful.

2282
01:41:43.020 --> 01:41:45.279
And see, dads, our kids need to hear

2283
01:41:46.648 --> 01:41:48.780
that just like my dad spoke into my life,

2284
01:41:48.880 --> 01:41:52.055
our little girls, I always wear a certain cologne

2285
01:41:53.885 --> 01:41:55.740
because I know the smell of my mom and dad.

2286
01:41:57.061 --> 01:41:59.960
My dad was Old Spice, you know.

2287
01:42:01.002 --> 01:42:03.780
I loved his Old Spice, you know, but I would hug him.

2288
01:42:04.140 --> 01:42:10.100
My mom's was, Debbie knows it, but I always, when I grab my girls, I just hold them right here.

2289
01:42:10.760 --> 01:42:14.180
And I just tell them how much I love them and how much I believe in them.

2290
01:42:15.221 --> 01:42:22.520
And, you know, the last 14, 15 years, it's been, you know, I didn't know what God wanted me to do.

2291
01:42:22.741 --> 01:42:27.260
And he just told me, he said, I want you to be a father to these girls, to the broken.

2292
01:42:28.040 --> 01:42:32.460
And I want you to love them and tell them how proud you are of them and how much you love them.

2293
01:42:33.380 --> 01:42:41.020
And so I've just poured my life into just looking into them and telling them and doing stupid dad jokes and everything, even though they don't understand them.

2294
01:42:41.381 --> 01:42:42.940
And, you know, they're the only ones that listen.

2295
01:42:44.282 --> 01:42:47.980
So Debbie just shakes her head and says, please, you know.

2296
01:42:48.823 --> 01:42:54.079
and uh so that you know in in in a nutshell that's kind of like but through it all

2297
01:42:55.644 --> 01:43:02.240
jesus and his spirit have been there through it all through the the hard times and the good times

2298
01:43:02.280 --> 01:43:07.200
and when i'm driving with them it's been a blessing people always try to come up to christians

2299
01:43:07.240 --> 01:43:11.560
whether you're missionaries or you're adopting oh you you deserve a special place in heaven

2300
01:43:11.941 --> 01:43:17.360
in their class oh that god has a special you know where i deserved i deserved hell yeah it was only

2301
01:43:17.440 --> 01:43:19.989
by God's grace and his mercy.

2302
01:43:20.270 --> 01:43:23.140
And when you follow him, whether when I was in the locker rooms and I

2303
01:43:23.180 --> 01:43:27.660
was the only believer and everybody's cussing and chasing girls and doing all this stuff,

2304
01:43:27.921 --> 01:43:32.919
when you stand for Jesus and you hold fast, whether he's telling you to go to India or

2305
01:43:33.260 --> 01:43:37.680
whether he's telling you to go right across the street or to stand in like that brother today,

2306
01:43:37.760 --> 01:43:44.100
that was in, in political realms that we stand for Christ and he will bless you and honor you.

2307
01:43:44.443 --> 01:43:45.860
and he'll take care of all your needs.

2308
01:43:46.302 --> 01:43:47.200
And he's done that.

2309
01:43:47.301 --> 01:43:47.900
Yeah, absolutely.

2310
01:43:49.067 --> 01:43:49.579
I'm curious.

2311
01:43:51.341 --> 01:43:55.100
Do we happen to have, do we have the video,

2312
01:43:55.220 --> 01:43:58.160
not the one we showed today, this short, the editor,

2313
01:43:58.321 --> 01:43:59.400
but do we have the other one?

2314
01:44:00.160 --> 01:44:02.100
I wonder if Matt can hear me, if he's around.

2315
01:44:03.162 --> 01:44:04.320
There was one that I saw.

2316
01:44:04.641 --> 01:44:07.040
I thought there was one that was about seven minutes long,

2317
01:44:07.761 --> 01:44:10.100
but I think you know of one that's even longer than that, right?

2318
01:44:10.100 --> 01:44:12.220
Well, that one you showed today was just, they just cut it.

2319
01:44:12.260 --> 01:44:13.740
Well, that one's been edited down,

2320
01:44:13.860 --> 01:44:21.320
But the one that I saw, I'd love to know if we, in 10 minutes we can have it?

2321
01:44:22.062 --> 01:44:23.380
Okay, I think it'd be great for all of us.

2322
01:44:23.400 --> 01:44:27.040
Are we going along the right lines of what you wanted as far as the things I'm sharing there?

2323
01:44:27.100 --> 01:44:28.480
I had no idea what I wanted.

2324
01:44:28.682 --> 01:44:29.260
Okay, I know.

2325
01:44:30.103 --> 01:44:31.040
That's what I love about him.

2326
01:44:31.261 --> 01:44:33.540
I was just standing back there and I go, is there anything I weren't talking about?

2327
01:44:33.560 --> 01:44:34.440
He goes, it's Jack.

2328
01:44:34.540 --> 01:44:36.040
You can't just go out there.

2329
01:44:36.201 --> 01:44:36.640
I said, all right.

2330
01:44:36.780 --> 01:44:37.540
Yeah, yeah.

2331
01:44:39.426 --> 01:44:44.320
you there's something on the video that they'll see in a moment which why i asked about the video

2332
01:44:45.042 --> 01:44:49.980
one of the things that really won my heart over was one of your girls said something about that

2333
01:44:50.120 --> 01:44:56.460
she was not a believer yes gg and i don't want to i don't want to steal the thunder she says a

2334
01:44:56.560 --> 01:45:02.440
particular word that is very important for men yes to hear i think you're you're figuring it

2335
01:45:02.460 --> 01:45:05.980
i'll elaborate on after they probably watch it probably so there's a word and you'll hear it

2336
01:45:06.061 --> 01:45:06.879
I'm not going to say it.

2337
01:45:07.020 --> 01:45:08.100
You'll see it in the video.

2338
01:45:08.900 --> 01:45:10.379
That every one of you men,

2339
01:45:10.701 --> 01:45:12.160
I don't care if you're single or you're married,

2340
01:45:13.521 --> 01:45:16.600
that word has got to be resurrected in your vocabulary

2341
01:45:16.901 --> 01:45:22.060
when it comes to not only just other people in your life,

2342
01:45:22.200 --> 01:45:25.220
but any women in your life, no matter what age,

2343
01:45:26.202 --> 01:45:27.100
no matter where they're at.

2344
01:45:27.201 --> 01:45:28.754
It could be your mom.

2345
01:45:31.122 --> 01:45:33.960
It could be that young lady that you are interested in.

2346
01:45:35.046 --> 01:45:37.359
there's a word that she uses about her dad

2347
01:45:38.450 --> 01:45:39.400
that to me just

2348
01:45:40.065 --> 01:45:41.880
I had not heard it in that context before

2349
01:45:41.960 --> 01:45:45.260
and I just said that is perfect

2350
01:45:46.167 --> 01:45:47.498
so in a moment you'll hear that

2351
01:45:48.168 --> 01:45:48.840
so keep going

2352
01:45:48.982 --> 01:45:50.680
and the person, the little girl

2353
01:45:51.367 --> 01:45:52.620
he's a young woman, is Chi Chi

2354
01:45:52.660 --> 01:45:54.351
the reason she was abandoned

2355
01:45:55.901 --> 01:45:58.900
was she only has three fingers on one hand

2356
01:45:59.405 --> 01:46:00.719
and she has a stump here

2357
01:46:01.522 --> 01:46:07.460
and so she was abused really bad and made fun of and she was angry and didn't trust and

2358
01:46:08.122 --> 01:46:14.980
and there was so much anger inside of her which i totally understand why and you know you're not

2359
01:46:15.080 --> 01:46:19.240
heroes when you adopt them and you're not sitting there hoping they fulfill something in your life

2360
01:46:20.482 --> 01:46:28.740
god just called us to love them and to represent christ and just pour our lives into them and even

2361
01:46:28.880 --> 01:46:35.480
when they were coming with stuff that wasn't what we, you know, that was fun to hear, we just loved

2362
01:46:35.500 --> 01:46:35.681
them.

2363
01:46:36.062 --> 01:46:40.280
And that's the key, uh, that we were doing, you know, for, for Chi Chi, because I don't want

2364
01:46:40.300 --> 01:46:44.900
to say too much because of what he's going to show, but, uh, Chi Chi, uh, is an amazing young

2365
01:46:44.940 --> 01:46:45.221
lady.

2366
01:46:46.203 --> 01:46:54.180
You were sharing earlier today that, um, uh, I forget her name, your first one about the

2367
01:46:54.200 --> 01:46:54.782
book of James?

2368
01:46:55.264 --> 01:46:56.870
Oh, second one, Savita.

2369
01:46:57.552 --> 01:46:59.057
Savita is the one that wants to be a polygist.

2370
01:46:59.077 --> 01:46:59.780
So we go into

2371
01:46:59.900 --> 01:47:01.065
a nursing home.

2372
01:47:01.668 --> 01:47:02.592
We used to take the girls.

2373
01:47:02.612 --> 01:47:03.475
That's a great ministry.

2374
01:47:03.515 --> 01:47:04.600
If you ever guys want to take

2375
01:47:04.620 --> 01:47:09.020
your kids somewhere, don't take them to the Knott's Berry or something like take them to a nursing

2376
01:47:09.140 --> 01:47:09.723
home every week.

2377
01:47:09.743 --> 01:47:14.100
We took our girls every week to a nursing home and those people need to be loved

2378
01:47:14.321 --> 01:47:14.742
on.

2379
01:47:14.983 --> 01:47:18.997
They said, when we would pull up in our van, people thought we were a school, of course.

2380
01:47:19.017 --> 01:47:19.077
And

2381
01:47:20.904 --> 01:47:24.860
the girls would get out and the lady who ran ran and said when they saw us get out of the van

2382
01:47:25.261 --> 01:47:31.700
all the elderly cheered yay they're here and and we would just minister to them and Savita

2383
01:47:32.924 --> 01:47:38.160
I tell her I go hey I need you to read James 1 for me and she goes okay and so I'm getting ready

2384
01:47:38.200 --> 01:47:43.780
and we share a little message to them about the Lord Savita gets up and does James 1 just

2385
01:47:43.800 --> 01:47:44.683
standing there in front of them.

2386
01:47:44.903 --> 01:47:46.829
She did James chapter one.

2387
01:47:48.414 --> 01:47:50.480
Look up James one, chapter one.

2388
01:47:50.540 --> 01:47:51.304
This is from memory.

2389
01:47:51.444 --> 01:47:52.208
Out of memory.

2390
01:47:52.289 --> 01:47:53.193
She didn't look at it.

2391
01:47:53.294 --> 01:47:54.198
There was no Bible.

2392
01:47:54.218 --> 01:47:54.560
She's like,

2393
01:47:55.864 --> 01:48:00.220
you know, and she's, I'm like watching her and she got done and all the old people were going,

2394
01:48:00.380 --> 01:48:04.000
woohoo, yay, that was so, and then she looks at me and she goes, daddy, you want me to do James

2395
01:48:04.060 --> 01:48:04.702
chapter two?

2396
01:48:09.394 --> 01:48:11.880
And then Chi Chi, who you're about to see, I'll share this.

2397
01:48:13.244 --> 01:48:19.200
Debbie and I got her, she's fiery and her feet were kind of, were deformed a little bit too.

2398
01:48:19.340 --> 01:48:22.175
So she couldn't, her flip-flops would be, and she's running.

2399
01:48:22.295 --> 01:48:23.180
We take her to the pool.

2400
01:48:23.920 --> 01:48:25.567
Debbie and I got the hotel.

2401
01:48:25.587 --> 01:48:26.411
We take her to the pool.

2402
01:48:26.712 --> 01:48:28.520
I'm walking out with Debbie to the pool.

2403
01:48:28.960 --> 01:48:31.509
Hey, I got my little girl with me.

2404
01:48:31.770 --> 01:48:32.995
So we're walking out there.

2405
01:48:33.356 --> 01:48:34.460
We're walking out to the pool

2406
01:48:34.961 --> 01:48:36.567
and I'm like, I'm a daddy again.

2407
01:48:36.868 --> 01:48:37.530
This is great.

2408
01:48:37.731 --> 01:48:40.380
And all of a sudden I hear splash and I turn and

2409
01:48:40.440 --> 01:48:41.464
she's a fireball.

2410
01:48:41.805 --> 01:48:45.680
And she, I look and she jumped in the pool and I look and she's at the bottom

2411
01:48:45.760 --> 01:48:46.222
of the pool.

2412
01:48:46.243 --> 01:48:50.040
And I said, I'm going to, my girl's going to, she's going to drown the first second

2413
01:48:50.120 --> 01:48:50.642
I have her.

2414
01:48:51.345 --> 01:48:54.456
And I just dove in, you know, cause I grew up in Arizona.

2415
01:48:54.496 --> 01:48:55.520
I know swimming, you can't,

2416
01:48:55.680 --> 01:48:59.320
you know, so I go and get her up out of the bottom and I lift her up and she's like,

2417
01:49:00.523 --> 01:49:05.598
and I'm like, and I can't speak Mandarin and I'm going, but she saw my face.

2418
01:49:05.658 --> 01:49:06.340
I go, no, you

2419
01:49:06.741 --> 01:49:09.129
can't jump in the pool, you know?

2420
01:49:09.450 --> 01:49:12.620
And I put her on the side, I get back out and I take two steps,

2421
01:49:13.201 --> 01:49:14.105
right back in again.

2422
01:49:14.546 --> 01:49:18.380
And I pull her out and I, there's a little kid who wasn't swimming and he

2423
01:49:18.400 --> 01:49:24.220
had those pool floaties and I stuck them on her arm and I was like, don't do that anymore.

2424
01:49:25.201 --> 01:49:31.279
So we get done swimming and we go upstairs and Debbie had to go do paperwork.

2425
01:49:31.299 --> 01:49:31.660
So I have,

2426
01:49:32.045 --> 01:49:33.139
Now it's just me and Chi-Chi.

2427
01:49:33.581 --> 01:49:34.960
And she's in her little suit.

2428
01:49:35.080 --> 01:49:37.200
And I go, hey, just a minute, Daddy.

2429
01:49:37.300 --> 01:49:37.799
You go change.

2430
01:49:38.161 --> 01:49:38.760
And I'm trying to talk.

2431
01:49:38.820 --> 01:49:40.440
I turn my back for one second.

2432
01:49:41.421 --> 01:49:45.040
And I hear, wah, yah, kah, you, yah, yah, yah.

2433
01:49:45.521 --> 01:49:46.540
And I turn around.

2434
01:49:46.660 --> 01:49:48.480
And she had gotten up on the kitchen thing.

2435
01:49:48.940 --> 01:49:50.880
And you know those big kitchen knives?

2436
01:49:51.666 --> 01:49:52.440
The big long ones?

2437
01:49:52.541 --> 01:49:53.399
She's going like this.

2438
01:49:54.285 --> 01:49:55.379
Wah, wah, wah, wah, wah.

2439
01:49:57.362 --> 01:50:01.160
And I looked and I said, I adopted a ninja warrior.

2440
01:50:01.760 --> 01:50:03.184
Oh my gosh.

2441
01:50:03.205 --> 01:50:03.987
Or a great cook.

2442
01:50:06.233 --> 01:50:08.520
And I go, I didn't know what to do because I thought,

2443
01:50:09.442 --> 01:50:10.326
what's happening here?

2444
01:50:10.607 --> 01:50:13.799
And I just looked at her and I started clapping and she goes, ha.

2445
01:50:13.859 --> 01:50:14.040
And then

2446
01:50:14.100 --> 01:50:14.964
she flips them.

2447
01:50:15.024 --> 01:50:17.473
She got a stump hand and three fingers.

2448
01:50:17.694 --> 01:50:19.220
She flips the blades to the handle,

2449
01:50:19.540 --> 01:50:22.291
catches them and hands it to me, hands it to me.

2450
01:50:22.311 --> 01:50:22.954
And she goes, you.

2451
01:50:23.355 --> 01:50:24.259
And I went, okay.

2452
01:50:24.319 --> 01:50:24.540
I went,

2453
01:50:24.640 --> 01:50:25.062
woo.

2454
01:50:27.029 --> 01:50:29.698
And then I, and I go, you go in the room and change, you know, go in there.

2455
01:50:29.718 --> 01:50:30.160
She went in there

2456
01:50:30.160 --> 01:50:36.073
And I took all the knives and I hit him, you know, and I said, I didn't want to wake up in the middle of the night like, you know.

2457
01:50:39.523 --> 01:50:40.940
So that's a true story, man.

2458
01:50:40.981 --> 01:50:41.720
It's unbelievable.

2459
01:50:42.301 --> 01:50:42.978
And that's Chi Chi.

2460
01:50:43.360 --> 01:50:46.100
And that's who you're going to see in the story, you know, in this part.

2461
01:50:46.520 --> 01:50:46.660
Ready?

2462
01:50:47.608 --> 01:50:47.760
Okay.

2463
01:50:47.860 --> 01:50:49.659
Can we dim the sanctuary lights?

2464
01:50:52.003 --> 01:50:53.360
Hi, I'm Rocky Coyle.

2465
01:50:54.022 --> 01:50:55.620
I was a professional baseball player.

2466
01:50:55.823 --> 01:50:57.080
I was called into the ministry.

2467
01:50:57.680 --> 01:50:59.395
I was a youth pastor for 25 years.

2468
01:51:01.023 --> 01:51:03.953
Debbie and I were just about in our 50s, empty nesters.

2469
01:51:04.154 --> 01:51:05.760
Debbie was really looking for what to

2470
01:51:05.800 --> 01:51:06.663
do with her life.

2471
01:51:07.627 --> 01:51:10.036
And she came to me and said, what would you think about adoption?

2472
01:51:10.639 --> 01:51:10.980
My daughter

2473
01:51:11.101 --> 01:51:12.387
said, have you ever thought about India?

2474
01:51:12.689 --> 01:51:14.760
I was like, do you want me to go to India?

2475
01:51:15.801 --> 01:51:19.900
There was a special needs child there that had been burned and left to die on the side of the

2476
01:51:19.960 --> 01:51:20.201
road.

2477
01:51:20.261 --> 01:51:21.606
And her name was Swati Leah.

2478
01:51:22.730 --> 01:51:25.760
I had fear in my heart to go to another country to go get this

2479
01:51:25.800 --> 01:51:26.362
little kid.

2480
01:51:27.345 --> 01:51:29.051
And the Lord started working in my heart.

2481
01:51:29.372 --> 01:51:31.258
I put her picture in my truck and I

2482
01:51:32.101 --> 01:51:36.820
literally pulled over on the side of the road and I flipped down the visor and I saw her face.

2483
01:51:37.580 --> 01:51:42.710
I go, Lord, if she needs a dad, I'll be her dad.

2484
01:51:45.315 --> 01:51:46.277
We get to this orphanage.

2485
01:51:46.297 --> 01:51:46.778
There's 145 children,

2486
01:51:48.320 --> 01:51:49.083
no air conditioning.

2487
01:51:49.123 --> 01:51:49.665
It's hot.

2488
01:51:50.047 --> 01:51:51.331
They're sleeping on the floors.

2489
01:51:52.375 --> 01:51:53.660
I walk in there and I used to

2490
01:51:53.700 --> 01:51:54.764
think I really knew God?

2491
01:51:55.647 --> 01:51:59.180
When Leah walked around the corner and she kind of had her head down and

2492
01:51:59.582 --> 01:52:03.700
she looked up at me and, you know, I heard the Lord say, you know, this is my kingdom.

2493
01:52:04.521 --> 01:52:05.466
This is what I'm about.

2494
01:52:05.788 --> 01:52:08.220
And oh, by the way, Rocky, that was you before you knew me.

2495
01:52:09.101 --> 01:52:12.129
You were scarred, you were broken, and you had no hope.

2496
01:52:13.672 --> 01:52:16.580
Here I wasn't, you know, far away from home

2497
01:52:16.700 --> 01:52:20.519
and everything, and yet that's where God's heart was.

2498
01:52:21.802 --> 01:52:23.420
And I knew it was for the least.

2499
01:52:25.543 --> 01:52:28.000
So then we went and got Savita in Delhi.

2500
01:52:29.042 --> 01:52:32.420
Her mom told her to sit down in the middle of Delhi.

2501
01:52:33.041 --> 01:52:34.318
She never came back to get her.

2502
01:52:34.800 --> 01:52:38.000
And Savita said, I looked for my mommy for two days,

2503
01:52:38.080 --> 01:52:39.759
and I couldn't find her.

2504
01:52:42.182 --> 01:52:45.500
I can't imagine a four-year-old, you know, in Delhi.

2505
01:52:47.021 --> 01:52:48.005
looking for their mommy.

2506
01:52:49.710 --> 01:52:51.335
My daughter-in-law said, what about China?

2507
01:52:51.396 --> 01:52:52.760
So saw this little girl on the

2508
01:52:52.760 --> 01:52:58.300
internet and she was dancing with these older girls and she was so feisty, had some handicaps.

2509
01:52:58.560 --> 01:53:00.146
I said, Debbie, I think this is our next one.

2510
01:53:00.528 --> 01:53:03.520
They found Chi-Chi wrapped in a blanket in a box on the

2511
01:53:03.580 --> 01:53:04.362
side of the road.

2512
01:53:05.043 --> 01:53:12.520
And well, Abigail, they found her in a box at the train station wrapped in a

2513
01:53:12.600 --> 01:53:14.791
towel and they brought them in together.

2514
01:53:14.811 --> 01:53:16.520
So they had been sleeping in the same bed their whole

2515
01:53:16.560 --> 01:53:16.941
lives.

2516
01:53:17.382 --> 01:53:22.093
And so I said, she needs to come home too.

2517
01:53:22.635 --> 01:53:24.780
We got home, raised the money again and went back

2518
01:53:24.880 --> 01:53:25.723
and got Abigail.

2519
01:53:26.686 --> 01:53:28.412
But we got back from that trip.

2520
01:53:28.833 --> 01:53:31.040
We're at the breakfast table and they're talking

2521
01:53:31.120 --> 01:53:31.762
in Chinese.

2522
01:53:31.802 --> 01:53:38.380
And then Chi Chi goes, Anwen, which is Allison, she used to defend us from older

2523
01:53:38.480 --> 01:53:42.400
children and she would hide her food and feed us at night when we didn't have enough food.

2524
01:53:45.087 --> 01:53:50.060
Lord you want me to go get this little girl you know we're so tired you know you know and I thought

2525
01:53:50.763 --> 01:53:54.420
to do that again and Debbie and I had already got rid of all our papers you know four kids

2526
01:53:54.480 --> 01:53:58.900
everybody thought we were crazy anyway but all of a sudden there was this peace and I don't know how

2527
01:53:58.900 --> 01:54:06.820
to explain it but it came over me like him saying it's going to be okay just just obey me I'll take

2528
01:54:06.840 --> 01:54:07.241
care of it.

2529
01:54:08.726 --> 01:54:11.255
At the same time, Debbie goes, I think we have to go get her.

2530
01:54:11.315 --> 01:54:12.900
And I said, yeah.

2531
01:54:19.561 --> 01:54:23.480
Some days I'm walking around the house thinking, where'd all these girls come from, you know?

2532
01:54:26.560 --> 01:54:29.613
Chi Chi was found with her umbilical cord still attached.

2533
01:54:29.954 --> 01:54:31.300
And so she was in an orphanage her

2534
01:54:31.340 --> 01:54:31.801
whole life.

2535
01:54:32.564 --> 01:54:35.271
She was abused in every way that you can imagine.

2536
01:54:36.434 --> 01:54:38.400
I was angry with God because

2537
01:54:39.022 --> 01:54:44.256
the abuse I've been through, I still remember the stuff that happened to me.

2538
01:54:44.417 --> 01:54:45.199
And I was blaming God

2539
01:54:45.700 --> 01:54:47.386
for everything.

2540
01:54:47.847 --> 01:54:50.334
Debbie and I together were praying for her salvation.

2541
01:54:51.097 --> 01:54:52.180
And I remember her coming to

2542
01:54:52.220 --> 01:54:55.295
us and saying, you know, if I don't accept Jesus, will you still love me?

2543
01:54:55.737 --> 01:54:56.340
But Debbie and I both

2544
01:54:56.380 --> 01:54:59.354
said, we love you, you know, whether you ever give your heart to Jesus or not.

2545
01:54:59.997 --> 01:55:00.760
I told my parents,

2546
01:55:00.860 --> 01:55:05.080
Like when I grow up, I want to do nothing with Jesus.

2547
01:55:06.181 --> 01:55:08.880
Hours and hours Debbie and I would spend with her talking.

2548
01:55:10.242 --> 01:55:13.120
And she would always come at it, like try to, try to freak you out.

2549
01:55:13.160 --> 01:55:14.260
Like she'd start cussing.

2550
01:55:14.864 --> 01:55:15.659
I hate God.

2551
01:55:16.720 --> 01:55:17.419
Blankety blank.

2552
01:55:18.747 --> 01:55:19.420
We still love you.

2553
01:55:19.924 --> 01:55:20.419
Still love you.

2554
01:55:22.342 --> 01:55:25.660
One day she just came up to me and she said, Dad, I want to go to work with you on Fridays.

2555
01:55:25.820 --> 01:55:27.600
You know, I teach you hitting lessons.

2556
01:55:28.508 --> 01:55:29.680
And then she would drive with me.

2557
01:55:30.024 --> 01:55:31.100
And I'd always take her to dinner.

2558
01:55:31.240 --> 01:55:33.000
So on Fridays, we had this date night.

2559
01:55:33.461 --> 01:55:35.640
And over time, we started developing a relationship.

2560
01:55:35.820 --> 01:55:37.600
It was really, it was a turning point.

2561
01:55:40.202 --> 01:55:42.540
One day, I was going to work and Chi Chi said,

2562
01:55:43.966 --> 01:55:45.880
I want to pray to ask Jesus in my heart.

2563
01:55:47.687 --> 01:55:48.279
So she did.

2564
01:55:50.905 --> 01:55:51.900
Out of nowhere, you know.

2565
01:55:54.603 --> 01:55:56.520
When I went out to my vehicle,

2566
01:55:58.110 --> 01:55:59.679
I literally fell on my knees in the grass

2567
01:56:03.857 --> 01:56:04.520
and thank God

2568
01:56:06.911 --> 01:56:08.719
I made a lot of mistakes in my life

2569
01:56:09.774 --> 01:56:10.099
my dad

2570
01:56:10.504 --> 01:56:11.919
he still pursued me

2571
01:56:12.544 --> 01:56:14.419
and every day he would look into my eyes

2572
01:56:14.724 --> 01:56:15.559
and said I love you

2573
01:56:16.568 --> 01:56:18.000
and that's why I want to follow Jesus

2574
01:56:18.327 --> 01:56:18.778
because

2575
01:56:20.190 --> 01:56:21.319
that's what Jesus does

2576
01:56:23.836 --> 01:56:24.440
the Lord said

2577
01:56:24.824 --> 01:56:26.460
I wanted you to be a dad to these girls

2578
01:56:28.613 --> 01:56:29.619
I want you to love them

2579
01:56:32.115 --> 01:56:32.899
like I loved you

2580
01:56:35.136 --> 01:56:35.640
this is all

2581
01:56:35.742 --> 01:56:36.579
it was all the Lord

2582
01:56:36.804 --> 01:56:37.478
Debbie and I were

2583
01:56:38.148 --> 01:56:39.060
we raised our kids

2584
01:56:39.141 --> 01:56:40.080
we were antiquing

2585
01:56:40.080 --> 01:56:40.919
we were having fun

2586
01:56:41.001 --> 01:56:42.099
it was all Jesus

2587
01:56:43.411 --> 01:56:44.158
and I've seen miracle

2588
01:56:44.482 --> 01:56:45.098
in these girls

2589
01:56:45.524 --> 01:56:46.839
each of them have their own story

2590
01:56:47.466 --> 01:56:48.659
how God delivered them

2591
01:56:48.963 --> 01:56:50.239
and they all know Jesus now

2592
01:56:51.591 --> 01:56:52.579
you know that's the cool thing

2593
01:56:52.640 --> 01:56:53.640
is that all these girls

2594
01:56:53.701 --> 01:56:54.378
will be with me

2595
01:56:54.870 --> 01:56:55.260
in heaven

2596
01:56:58.189 --> 01:57:01.960
just this year i was able to drop civito buffert liberty university

2597
01:57:03.784 --> 01:57:11.380
and saw her walk up the steps to go to college leo you guys see her greeting you she has a heart

2598
01:57:11.460 --> 01:57:17.360
for for missions chichi's still searching you see her working in the coffee bar you know she's

2599
01:57:17.380 --> 01:57:22.300
taking a few classes in outlands so you know i don't know what tomorrow holds but i know who

2600
01:57:22.380 --> 01:57:22.802
holds it.

2601
01:57:23.667 --> 01:57:26.400
And I've learned that I'm going to go

2602
01:57:26.520 --> 01:57:27.829
where he sends me.

2603
01:57:28.976 --> 01:57:29.660
So good.

2604
01:57:31.261 --> 01:57:31.585
Woo.

2605
01:57:32.557 --> 01:57:32.759
Yep.

2606
01:57:36.126 --> 01:57:37.054
So the word is pursue.

2607
01:57:38.844 --> 01:57:40.459
My dad pursued me.

2608
01:57:42.262 --> 01:57:46.260
I'm wondering tonight how many of these guys and

2609
01:57:46.340 --> 01:57:50.360
gals here tonight could have avoided either

2610
01:57:51.771 --> 01:57:52.960
unnecessary suffering

2611
01:57:54.168 --> 01:57:55.839
or still could change that

2612
01:57:58.812 --> 01:58:00.620
if they were pursued

2613
01:58:01.585 --> 01:58:04.180
or they tonight decide to be a pursuer.

2614
01:58:05.409 --> 01:58:06.099
To think about

2615
01:58:08.849 --> 01:58:12.020
their children being targeted by love.

2616
01:58:13.967 --> 01:58:14.980
That really impacted me

2617
01:58:15.040 --> 01:58:16.919
when I first heard that the first time

2618
01:58:17.020 --> 01:58:19.480
where my father, my dad pursued me.

2619
01:58:21.049 --> 01:58:21.779
You wouldn't give up.

2620
01:58:24.503 --> 01:58:26.599
What a wise word it was when he said

2621
01:58:28.150 --> 01:58:29.640
to her rejection of Jesus,

2622
01:58:30.302 --> 01:58:31.720
what if I don't ever become a Christian,

2623
01:58:31.820 --> 01:58:32.640
will you still love me?

2624
01:58:33.201 --> 01:58:35.960
You do know what she was crying out for, right?

2625
01:58:37.622 --> 01:58:39.960
Not too sure if Jesus had anything to do about it

2626
01:58:40.061 --> 01:58:41.200
in her mind at that moment.

2627
01:58:41.381 --> 01:58:42.460
She was actually saying,

2628
01:58:44.468 --> 01:58:46.620
I love the love that you give to me, Dad.

2629
01:58:47.105 --> 01:58:48.660
I'm just wondering if it's conditional

2630
01:58:49.429 --> 01:58:50.380
on this faith thing

2631
01:58:52.270 --> 01:58:54.080
right Jesus just happened to be the name

2632
01:58:55.752 --> 01:58:56.820
and the one that of course

2633
01:58:57.607 --> 01:58:59.020
was orchestrated in the entire thing

2634
01:58:59.081 --> 01:59:00.519
but she was actually saying

2635
01:59:02.032 --> 01:59:02.919
do you really love me?

2636
01:59:04.523 --> 01:59:05.839
because kids are like that you know

2637
01:59:07.711 --> 01:59:09.040
they may or may not express it

2638
01:59:09.121 --> 01:59:09.859
but they're like that

2639
01:59:10.566 --> 01:59:11.980
did you know that men are like that too?

2640
01:59:14.105 --> 01:59:14.999
women are like that too

2641
01:59:16.672 --> 01:59:17.559
where they want to hear

2642
01:59:19.968 --> 01:59:23.320
that love expressed from you to them organically

2643
01:59:23.905 --> 01:59:25.460
with nothing detached,

2644
01:59:27.142 --> 01:59:30.280
no conditions.

2645
01:59:32.840 --> 01:59:37.020
And that can only be passed down by experience.

2646
01:59:37.860 --> 01:59:38.800
And of course, thank God,

2647
01:59:38.880 --> 01:59:40.120
the Lord intervenes in our lives

2648
01:59:40.221 --> 01:59:43.200
and breaks those chains and cycles.

2649
01:59:43.360 --> 01:59:53.960
But for those of us who have opportunity, do you have anyone in your life that you can leave here tonight when this is over and be able to say to yourself, I'm going to target.

2650
01:59:55.062 --> 01:59:56.860
Maybe it's a nephew or a niece.

2651
01:59:59.020 --> 02:00:03.960
Or maybe it's, like you guys said, the empty nesters, your kids are gone.

2652
02:00:05.422 --> 02:00:09.420
It's never too late to start pursuing them again.

2653
02:00:11.326 --> 02:00:15.340
you need to think about that because second corinthians 5 tells us that the lord has given

2654
02:00:15.460 --> 02:00:20.700
us the ministry of reconciliation yes every christian has the ministry of reconciliation

2655
02:00:20.800 --> 02:00:26.460
the holy spirit in us will see to it we go around and patch up dams that have been broken

2656
02:00:28.344 --> 02:00:35.340
that's that's what he does in us you don't have to fly to hong kong or india

2657
02:00:37.306 --> 02:00:41.840
You can start to work on a relationship that you know in your life is frayed.

2658
02:00:42.722 --> 02:00:45.000
It's worn thin or broken, you know.

2659
02:00:46.323 --> 02:00:47.099
Someone's got to do it.

2660
02:00:48.040 --> 02:00:50.760
God says that he gives grace to the humble, right?

2661
02:00:50.921 --> 02:00:52.139
But he resists the proud.

2662
02:00:53.085 --> 02:00:53.580
That's okay.

2663
02:00:54.900 --> 02:01:01.800
Because usually in a bone of contention, an atmosphere of contention, both are pushing on each other.

2664
02:01:03.203 --> 02:01:11.120
whoever decides to humble themselves they relax so if they're both pushing there's no

2665
02:01:12.525 --> 02:01:16.080
success but when one humbles both of them fall

2666
02:01:17.767 --> 02:01:21.000
before the feet of god it only takes one to make things right

2667
02:01:23.554 --> 02:01:24.419
god will honor that

2668
02:01:27.648 --> 02:01:32.120
so yeah the another thing i wanted to share that was important about that story of her coming to

2669
02:01:32.200 --> 02:01:38.600
jesus and this is hard for us as men is to admit we're wrong or that when we have correction

2670
02:01:38.841 --> 02:01:46.240
towards us so here's a my daughter who's hadn't accepted christ before that but you saw her when i

2671
02:01:46.963 --> 02:01:51.020
led her to jesus we were driving down the road one day and she was going to work with me

2672
02:01:52.043 --> 02:01:57.520
and she's a she doesn't miss anything she's watches everything she goes hey dad the way

2673
02:01:57.560 --> 02:02:01.020
you acted today at breakfast the way you talked to mom and all of us

2674
02:02:01.883 --> 02:02:05.960
i think you were really off base you were wrong how you your attitude today

2675
02:02:09.267 --> 02:02:15.600
she said that to me driving i was like and i almost like got defensive it was close

2676
02:02:16.444 --> 02:02:19.860
like who are you thinking you know but i listened and the lord's going you better

2677
02:02:20.321 --> 02:02:22.849
you better be quiet for a second and think this out.

2678
02:02:24.153 --> 02:02:24.674
And you know what?

2679
02:02:24.774 --> 02:02:26.620
She was exactly right.

2680
02:02:28.441 --> 02:02:29.142
She was right.

2681
02:02:30.967 --> 02:02:31.648
I was wrong.

2682
02:02:32.871 --> 02:02:36.480
And I stopped myself and I was driving and I go, this could be the

2683
02:02:36.540 --> 02:02:38.428
difference between her coming to Jesus or not.

2684
02:02:39.452 --> 02:02:41.340
We think we're prideful and you know, I'm not

2685
02:02:41.340 --> 02:02:43.749
going to admit, listen, she was right on.

2686
02:02:44.512 --> 02:02:46.640
Whether I was a youth minister, when I was a youth minister,

2687
02:02:46.680 --> 02:02:51.260
I told my youth, I said, if you ever see me in a mall with anybody but Debbie, another woman,

2688
02:02:51.340 --> 02:02:53.830
you have every right to come up and ask me who in the world this girl is.

2689
02:02:55.577 --> 02:02:56.420
Better be my sister

2690
02:02:56.500 --> 02:02:57.283
or somebody, you know?

2691
02:02:59.470 --> 02:03:02.540
But Chi Chi said that to me, and I stopped myself, and I was driving,

2692
02:03:02.740 --> 02:03:06.772
and she was looking at me, and I said, Chi Chi, you're exactly right.

2693
02:03:07.735 --> 02:03:08.778
I go, Daddy was wrong.

2694
02:03:09.099 --> 02:03:09.280
I go,

2695
02:03:09.300 --> 02:03:10.103
I'm so sorry.

2696
02:03:10.164 --> 02:03:10.867
Please forgive me.

2697
02:03:11.389 --> 02:03:14.120
And I said, tomorrow, when we have breakfast, I'm going to

2698
02:03:14.140 --> 02:03:16.700
I'm going to tell everybody at the table that I was wrong.

2699
02:03:17.622 --> 02:03:20.177
And I'm going to ask for forgiveness because daddy was wrong.

2700
02:03:21.621 --> 02:03:26.340
And I saw her face just go, you know, I think that was part of the foundation.

2701
02:03:27.702 --> 02:03:32.120
To be able to see, you know, that I believed in who I said I believed in too.

2702
02:03:32.482 --> 02:03:33.160
And she was right.

2703
02:03:34.182 --> 02:03:35.060
That's part of being a man.

2704
02:03:35.140 --> 02:03:36.040
It's just like us men.

2705
02:03:36.360 --> 02:03:40.320
So many times we say our wife, she doesn't do this and she doesn't do this and she doesn't do this.

2706
02:03:40.360 --> 02:03:45.060
I remember early on in my marriage with Deb, God would, you know, and every one of them,

2707
02:03:45.160 --> 02:03:49.180
probably I could justify my thinking, but she could sadly say a hundred to me too.

2708
02:03:49.640 --> 02:03:54.160
But all the things I said, and God says, and what if she never does?

2709
02:03:56.064 --> 02:03:57.180
What have I called you to do?

2710
02:03:58.461 --> 02:03:59.940
This has not contingent on her.

2711
02:04:00.241 --> 02:04:01.480
He said, what have I called you to do?

2712
02:04:01.500 --> 02:04:02.520
And I knew the word of God.

2713
02:04:02.800 --> 02:04:05.220
He said, I'm supposed to love her as Christ loved the church.

2714
02:04:06.181 --> 02:04:09.320
Whether she never responds to things that I think that she should,

2715
02:04:09.880 --> 02:04:11.700
That's God dealing with her and those.

2716
02:04:12.261 --> 02:04:16.500
But I chose to love my wife the way Christ loved the church,

2717
02:04:16.861 --> 02:04:19.920
regardless of anything and everything else that's happening.

2718
02:04:20.502 --> 02:04:21.800
I'm choosing no matter what.

2719
02:04:22.004 --> 02:04:22.460
I love her.

2720
02:04:23.100 --> 02:04:24.800
I committed to her at that altar.

2721
02:04:25.041 --> 02:04:25.860
I'm going to love her.

2722
02:04:26.340 --> 02:04:29.240
And that's what my desire is, to love her like Christ loved the church.

2723
02:04:29.740 --> 02:04:30.680
And I tried to love.

2724
02:04:31.122 --> 02:04:32.199
My dad taught me that.

2725
02:04:33.581 --> 02:04:35.420
And as a man, I try to do that.

2726
02:04:35.602 --> 02:04:37.020
My dad did that to my mom.

2727
02:04:37.621 --> 02:04:38.920
And I wanted to do that to my wife.

2728
02:04:38.960 --> 02:04:40.780
and I wanted to love my girls in the same way.

2729
02:04:41.080 --> 02:04:43.340
And we have a chance with all these clowns out here

2730
02:04:43.602 --> 02:04:45.840
that are trying to destroy our little girls

2731
02:04:46.165 --> 02:04:47.040
and our families,

2732
02:04:47.661 --> 02:04:49.379
that we need men that will stand up

2733
02:04:49.521 --> 02:04:50.560
and be men of God,

2734
02:04:51.081 --> 02:04:52.960
men that are willing to fight for their kids.

2735
02:04:54.743 --> 02:04:56.780
And also, guys, admit it when we're wrong

2736
02:04:57.287 --> 02:04:58.220
and take responsibility.

2737
02:04:58.461 --> 02:04:59.380
Our kids look at that,

2738
02:04:59.661 --> 02:05:00.820
say, my dad's never wrong.

2739
02:05:01.082 --> 02:05:02.059
I can't ever talk to him

2740
02:05:02.303 --> 02:05:03.220
because he's never wrong.

2741
02:05:03.543 --> 02:05:03.939
You know what?

2742
02:05:04.701 --> 02:05:05.800
That shows a sign of strength

2743
02:05:05.861 --> 02:05:07.740
when you as a man take responsibility

2744
02:05:07.781 --> 02:05:08.300
of those things.

2745
02:05:08.923 --> 02:05:12.780
Well, you know, the power of that is, and only this can happen in Christianity.

2746
02:05:13.600 --> 02:05:19.040
So if you're here right now and you're Muslim, and I mean, the closest thing that I've seen,

2747
02:05:19.100 --> 02:05:25.860
and I've actually seen it in Judaism, but it still falls short because there's no Holy Spirit present within them, the Jews.

2748
02:05:26.400 --> 02:05:29.980
But Hinduism, Buddhism, forget it.

2749
02:05:30.100 --> 02:05:30.639
It's not going to happen.

2750
02:05:30.680 --> 02:05:30.760
it.

2751
02:05:32.083 --> 02:05:38.840
This is the great, one of the great things of Christianity is that because our God is a

2752
02:05:38.940 --> 02:05:43.392
redemptive God, he takes our total disasters.

2753
02:05:44.314 --> 02:05:46.540
And if they're managed right with repentance,

2754
02:05:49.445 --> 02:05:55.360
they can become the literal catalyst that leads the family or the boss or the employees to Christ.

2755
02:05:56.366 --> 02:05:58.760
when you say, hey, you guys,

2756
02:05:59.463 --> 02:06:01.420
I lost it on the job site yesterday.

2757
02:06:04.022 --> 02:06:05.760
Didn't think about it, laid down last night.

2758
02:06:07.104 --> 02:06:07.860
Couldn't go to sleep.

2759
02:06:09.484 --> 02:06:10.420
Talked to God about it.

2760
02:06:10.520 --> 02:06:11.758
God told me, don't talk to me

2761
02:06:13.169 --> 02:06:14.620
until you go back to the job site

2762
02:06:14.680 --> 02:06:17.180
and talk to the guys and set it right.

2763
02:06:17.762 --> 02:06:18.939
So guys, I'm here to tell you,

2764
02:06:20.768 --> 02:06:22.580
I was wrong for chewing on you like that

2765
02:06:22.681 --> 02:06:23.619
and treating you like that.

2766
02:06:24.804 --> 02:06:29.560
let me tell you something you better just get out some bibles because that's going to bring people

2767
02:06:29.600 --> 02:06:35.180
to christ because they're not going to get that anywhere else and that's why legalism within the

2768
02:06:35.240 --> 02:06:41.020
church setting is such an abomination that's why it kills people when they go to churches

2769
02:06:42.144 --> 02:06:46.860
and it's a rule-based relationship it's not even a relationship it's a rule-based association

2770
02:06:47.883 --> 02:06:53.240
rather than a love-based relationship and only in christianity can we say please forgive me i

2771
02:06:53.380 --> 02:07:02.560
was wrong that god uses that as a profound tool of evangelism because he's a redeeming god he's

2772
02:07:02.600 --> 02:07:11.380
redemptive so um i want to i want to insert this and i want to see what your wisdom is on this

2773
02:07:12.222 --> 02:07:20.200
um a lot of people it's shocking where we are heavily involved you being in the ministry um

2774
02:07:20.340 --> 02:07:28.620
And as well that we deal with a lot of people, young and old, that have been sexually abused.

2775
02:07:30.148 --> 02:07:30.640
It's insane.

2776
02:07:31.002 --> 02:07:32.360
I did not grow up in a Christian home.

2777
02:07:33.821 --> 02:07:39.360
But when I heard that people were sexually abused at some point in my life, I was completely shocked.

2778
02:07:41.563 --> 02:07:43.720
I just thought, what kind of a freak show is that?

2779
02:07:44.947 --> 02:07:45.680
How does that happen?

2780
02:07:48.225 --> 02:07:54.058
but apparently not apparently it is clear after coming up on 36 years of

2781
02:07:56.305 --> 02:07:59.780
uh professional ministry anyway that is full-time i should say

2782
02:08:01.426 --> 02:08:05.000
but almost 50 years of being a christian i i'm shocked at how many people

2783
02:08:05.983 --> 02:08:11.040
have incredible marriage issues or just relationship issues because they were abused as a

2784
02:08:11.140 --> 02:08:11.481
child.

2785
02:08:11.501 --> 02:08:19.400
I don't know if you know this or not, but so many people that we talk to that are LBGTQ.

2786
02:08:21.661 --> 02:08:22.404
I'm going to be close.

2787
02:08:22.746 --> 02:08:23.589
I won't be exact.

2788
02:08:24.051 --> 02:08:26.400
Lisa's probably more able to answer this,

2789
02:08:26.881 --> 02:08:28.905
but the percentile is in the 90s.

2790
02:08:30.990 --> 02:08:35.620
90 some odd percent of those who are struggling with LBGTQ

2791
02:08:35.981 --> 02:08:40.840
issues, were sexually abused as a child, or interestingly enough,

2792
02:08:43.763 --> 02:08:47.937
they were never, some of them were never touched, but they were exposed.

2793
02:08:47.957 --> 02:08:48.640
They were shown

2794
02:08:49.642 --> 02:08:52.487
extreme pornography.

2795
02:08:53.468 --> 02:09:00.020
It turns out that chemically, biologically, that a child who sees

2796
02:09:00.962 --> 02:09:09.799
pornography has the same damage to the brain area of emotion that an older child has when

2797
02:09:10.260 --> 02:09:11.505
sexually abused physically.

2798
02:09:12.167 --> 02:09:15.720
In other words, it doesn't matter if it's on the screen or on the

2799
02:09:15.780 --> 02:09:19.927
body, the damage is still demonically the same.

2800
02:09:21.871 --> 02:09:27.200
And the only hope, if that's you tonight, the only

2801
02:09:27.300 --> 02:09:28.724
hope for you.

2802
02:09:29.527 --> 02:09:33.980
And I say only hope, like, it's not like it's the only hope, like, sorry, there's

2803
02:09:34.000 --> 02:09:34.883
nothing else left.

2804
02:09:35.846 --> 02:09:39.738
The only hope for you is the only hope that has always been for us.

2805
02:09:40.299 --> 02:09:40.520
And that

2806
02:09:40.620 --> 02:09:46.260
is the loving, saving grace of Jesus and the restorative work that he does in making you a

2807
02:09:46.320 --> 02:09:49.047
brand new creature in a moment's time.

2808
02:09:49.809 --> 02:09:53.880
Did you know that you can become a virgin tonight with

2809
02:09:53.940 --> 02:09:54.662
Jesus Christ.

2810
02:09:54.802 --> 02:09:55.504
Who offers that?

2811
02:09:56.627 --> 02:09:57.409
Nobody offers that.

2812
02:09:57.870 --> 02:09:59.976
But Jesus, he can heal you.

2813
02:10:01.079 --> 02:10:01.520
And so many

2814
02:10:01.600 --> 02:10:08.400
marriages are suffering in these days because the, believe it or not, the husband is dysfunctionally

2815
02:10:08.520 --> 02:10:12.656
sexual, sexually, or the wife, and they've never talked to one another.

2816
02:10:12.676 --> 02:10:13.720
They never shared with each

2817
02:10:13.800 --> 02:10:18.480
other that they've carried those scars into their marriage and they love each other tremendously.

2818
02:10:19.322 --> 02:10:26.980
but the pain is so powerful but they've never talked about it and you need to take it to the

2819
02:10:27.020 --> 02:10:32.540
cross you think about these girls and you're not only the girls but you think about their

2820
02:10:32.580 --> 02:10:41.540
biological children the love is the same we have an adopted granddaughter i told you this the other

2821
02:10:41.540 --> 02:10:47.739
day we have an adopted granddaughter we never remember she's adopted we honestly don't

2822
02:10:48.507 --> 02:10:49.498
people remind us.

2823
02:10:51.504 --> 02:10:52.418
Sometimes it's very fun

2824
02:10:53.208 --> 02:10:54.180
because we'll be somewhere.

2825
02:10:55.463 --> 02:10:56.738
Oh, hey, how are you guys?

2826
02:10:58.004 --> 02:10:58.980
Oh, this is your granddaughter.

2827
02:10:59.280 --> 02:11:00.139
These are your grandsons.

2828
02:11:00.384 --> 02:11:00.540
Yeah.

2829
02:11:01.042 --> 02:11:02.299
Oh, man, they look just like you guys.

2830
02:11:03.762 --> 02:11:04.373
Oh, that's hilarious.

2831
02:11:07.709 --> 02:11:08.038
They do.

2832
02:11:09.984 --> 02:11:11.199
But people have to remind us.

2833
02:11:11.681 --> 02:11:12.720
You want to know why that's true?

2834
02:11:14.144 --> 02:11:15.159
Because that's what love does.

2835
02:11:15.665 --> 02:11:17.000
Love erases all those things.

2836
02:11:20.817 --> 02:11:21.300
I'm kind of

2837
02:11:22.668 --> 02:11:24.620
partial toward being adopted

2838
02:11:25.893 --> 02:11:26.480
when I was born

2839
02:11:26.581 --> 02:11:27.819
my parents were stuck with me

2840
02:11:27.941 --> 02:11:28.918
they sent me back

2841
02:11:30.693 --> 02:11:31.539
but when you're picked

2842
02:11:33.152 --> 02:11:34.100
that's a whole different thing

2843
02:11:34.464 --> 02:11:35.760
pastor we tell the girls that

2844
02:11:36.849 --> 02:11:38.200
what's funny I walk through the mall and they go

2845
02:11:38.220 --> 02:11:39.070
are these your children?

2846
02:11:39.111 --> 02:11:39.880
I lean up to them

2847
02:11:40.246 --> 02:11:41.140
I go can't you tell

2848
02:11:42.005 --> 02:11:44.320
I'm Irish man can't you tell

2849
02:11:45.349 --> 02:11:46.560
but when we tell our girls

2850
02:11:46.641 --> 02:11:49.360
which is so powerful because they are adopted.

2851
02:11:49.540 --> 02:11:52.620
But I said, I didn't choose your brother, Josh and Rachel,

2852
02:11:52.880 --> 02:11:54.960
or your sister, but I chose you.

2853
02:11:56.522 --> 02:11:58.260
That's how God does it to us too, you know?

2854
02:11:58.928 --> 02:11:59.339
Isn't that cool?

2855
02:12:00.680 --> 02:12:02.177
And that's what, and you know,

2856
02:12:02.561 --> 02:12:03.680
I didn't know what it was gonna be like.

2857
02:12:03.760 --> 02:12:07.160
You know, I got two Indian daughters and three Chinese,

2858
02:12:07.340 --> 02:12:09.820
but honest to goodness, when I'm around them

2859
02:12:09.860 --> 02:12:11.380
and when I look at them, man, I just,

2860
02:12:11.520 --> 02:12:13.160
they're my daughters and I just love them.

2861
02:12:13.842 --> 02:12:14.820
If you mess with them, man,

2862
02:12:15.162 --> 02:12:17.460
And I'd be fighting like my dad used to fight, man.

2863
02:12:17.520 --> 02:12:19.080
I'd throw that left-right combo on you.

2864
02:12:19.620 --> 02:12:22.860
And since I'm so short, I'd just beat your kneecaps to death until you couldn't walk.

2865
02:12:23.524 --> 02:12:24.260
That's what I would do.

2866
02:12:24.825 --> 02:12:25.620
You fight for them.

2867
02:12:25.761 --> 02:12:27.000
That's why God invented guns.

2868
02:12:28.481 --> 02:12:33.880
Anyway, you guys must have great food in your house.

2869
02:12:34.562 --> 02:12:35.300
There's no food.

2870
02:12:35.660 --> 02:12:36.697
Our girls are like...

2871
02:12:36.964 --> 02:12:37.260
Come on.

2872
02:12:38.006 --> 02:12:38.560
Indian food?

2873
02:12:38.785 --> 02:12:39.360
Chinese food?

2874
02:12:39.460 --> 02:12:42.660
Hey, when I come home at night, how many Indian folks are in here?

2875
02:12:43.103 --> 02:12:43.380
Come on.

2876
02:12:43.746 --> 02:12:44.660
How many Indian folks?

2877
02:12:44.901 --> 02:12:45.287
That's it?

2878
02:12:45.449 --> 02:12:46.079
One, two, three.

2879
02:12:46.140 --> 02:12:49.680
Masala chai, the smell of that in my kitchen, it's beautiful.

2880
02:12:50.100 --> 02:12:53.120
Debbie Macon, the Indian food, I can always smell it from the carport.

2881
02:12:53.640 --> 02:12:55.213
We're having Indian food tonight.

2882
02:12:55.354 --> 02:12:56.040
It's good stuff.

2883
02:12:56.120 --> 02:12:59.514
How come Estee Lauder doesn't have curry perfume?

2884
02:13:01.802 --> 02:13:02.280
It's amazing.

2885
02:13:02.760 --> 02:13:06.980
And hey, Chinese dumplings and all, oh boy, that's some good stuff.

2886
02:13:07.680 --> 02:13:08.078
It's precious.

2887
02:13:08.120 --> 02:13:08.600
Yeah, it's great.

2888
02:13:09.021 --> 02:13:13.720
But our girls, it's like, they do it kind of quietly,

2889
02:13:14.121 --> 02:13:19.239
but you look up and it's like, it's like piranhas, like, you know, it's incredible.

2890
02:13:19.439 --> 02:13:19.680
It's like,

2891
02:13:20.800 --> 02:13:26.880
and, and, um, also, uh, our mother-in-law, my mother-in-law fell about seven, eight months ago

2892
02:13:27.623 --> 02:13:29.088
and she stays with us now too.

2893
02:13:29.149 --> 02:13:32.020
And I was telling pastor, there's five girls, well,

2894
02:13:32.100 --> 02:13:34.450
six now with my mother-in-law in one bathroom.

2895
02:13:35.052 --> 02:13:37.060
So, so I was telling, someone said, you got to

2896
02:13:37.100 --> 02:13:37.904
do a reality thing.

2897
02:13:37.924 --> 02:13:40.960
And I said, yeah, because there's one part, the girls go, daddy, our

2898
02:13:41.080 --> 02:13:42.223
drains not working.

2899
02:13:43.848 --> 02:13:46.696
And they all have that black hair, you know, that thick hair.

2900
02:13:47.659 --> 02:13:48.060
And they go,

2901
02:13:48.140 --> 02:13:49.805
daddy, it's your, I go, it's not my hair.

2902
02:13:49.865 --> 02:13:50.928
Like I'm blonde.

2903
02:13:51.249 --> 02:13:52.232
I mean, I'm gray now.

2904
02:13:53.616 --> 02:13:55.000
Folks, any guy

2905
02:13:55.140 --> 02:13:58.288
knows this or ladies, I went in with the thing to clean it.

2906
02:13:59.050 --> 02:14:02.800
And I was like, you know, it was like,

2907
02:14:03.702 --> 02:14:05.971
I go, that's part of being a dad there.

2908
02:14:05.991 --> 02:14:07.819
All the girls are like, oh, it's a rat.

2909
02:14:07.839 --> 02:14:08.140
I go, no,

2910
02:14:08.180 --> 02:14:11.590
it's your hair, toothpaste and hair.

2911
02:14:11.650 --> 02:14:15.260
And I'm like, and I put it in the toilet, you know,

2912
02:14:16.042 --> 02:14:19.020
but the, you know, that's part of loving on them, you know, clean and they're going, daddy,

2913
02:14:19.100 --> 02:14:20.004
the sink works now.

2914
02:14:20.025 --> 02:14:20.567
I go, yeah.

2915
02:14:20.768 --> 02:14:23.100
Cause there's not five pounds of hair in there, you know?

2916
02:14:24.041 --> 02:14:25.840
Anyway, I don't know why we brought that.

2917
02:14:25.920 --> 02:14:31.420
Where, um, are you, are you emptying esters yet again?

2918
02:14:31.620 --> 02:14:32.985
No, but good thing folks.

2919
02:14:33.406 --> 02:14:34.229
This was really cool.

2920
02:14:35.293 --> 02:14:36.677
Debbie and I got to come here.

2921
02:14:36.738 --> 02:14:37.380
We haven't been

2922
02:14:37.641 --> 02:14:39.648
on our own in 15 years.

2923
02:14:40.471 --> 02:14:42.960
So we were here and we were in the room just going,

2924
02:14:47.168 --> 02:14:48.392
go to the beach, go to this.

2925
02:14:48.472 --> 02:14:50.900
I go, how about if we just take five minutes and sleep

2926
02:14:51.301 --> 02:14:52.244
for a little bit, you know?

2927
02:14:52.264 --> 02:14:56.980
But, but, but so we, if we come, you know, Debbie and I tried to adopt

2928
02:14:57.080 --> 02:14:58.445
two more, but COVID.

2929
02:14:58.605 --> 02:15:02.940
And then, um, they said we were too old on another one and we lost all,

2930
02:15:03.522 --> 02:15:09.620
we tried to get two more but when it's done when they're gone we'll be empty nesters again we'll

2931
02:15:09.680 --> 02:15:15.520
see you know we'll give it another shot but uh it was uh we'll see is it exciting to see what your

2932
02:15:15.721 --> 02:15:22.200
children both adopted and biological will do uh with their children in the future with the example

2933
02:15:22.361 --> 02:15:28.440
your dad gave you and now you and debbie having given to them i mean that's just thrilling to

2934
02:15:28.520 --> 02:15:28.841
think.

2935
02:15:29.283 --> 02:15:33.579
Of course, life has its dynamics and it's going to have its ups and downs.

2936
02:15:33.599 --> 02:15:33.940
That's going to

2937
02:15:33.960 --> 02:15:34.321
happen.

2938
02:15:34.983 --> 02:15:37.310
But the foundation is strong.

2939
02:15:37.390 --> 02:15:37.651
Yes.

2940
02:15:38.293 --> 02:15:40.559
And that's what, you know, for all of you, one of

2941
02:15:40.800 --> 02:15:45.196
the reasons I think God brought Debbie and I here, you guys have been so loving.

2942
02:15:45.337 --> 02:15:46.140
Most people need to

2943
02:15:46.180 --> 02:15:47.204
be more transparent.

2944
02:15:47.265 --> 02:15:51.040
When you guys have loved on us, a lot of you don't know that, but we felt so

2945
02:15:51.160 --> 02:15:51.723
welcome here.

2946
02:15:52.546 --> 02:15:55.398
And so many of you have maybe come in here tonight and maybe you're hurting your

2947
02:15:56.020 --> 02:15:59.511
marriages or, you know, school or taking stands for Jesus.

2948
02:16:00.896 --> 02:16:02.220
Through all of it, I didn't know what

2949
02:16:02.300 --> 02:16:03.405
I was doing all the time.

2950
02:16:03.485 --> 02:16:07.320
I didn't understand it, but I knew, I knew that Jesus was the King,

2951
02:16:07.821 --> 02:16:08.543
King of Kings.

2952
02:16:09.346 --> 02:16:13.440
Whatever you're facing, whatever you're going through, God is able to do

2953
02:16:13.520 --> 02:16:17.193
exceedingly abundantly above all that you could ever ask or hope or dream about.

2954
02:16:18.137 --> 02:16:19.040
He's, he's a God

2955
02:16:19.080 --> 02:16:19.863
that does that.

2956
02:16:20.365 --> 02:16:24.540
And when you follow him, what we got to see was that people say, well, you did such,

2957
02:16:25.203 --> 02:16:29.620
Debbie and I got to like you saw that picture it's Savita walking up the steps at Liberty

2958
02:16:30.323 --> 02:16:34.220
I cried the whole way home because when I brought her home she was so malnourished she couldn't walk

2959
02:16:34.260 --> 02:16:39.740
to the mailbox and now she's walking up the steps at Liberty University and graduating when you see

2960
02:16:39.820 --> 02:16:48.699
that you want to go like this to God yeah thank you Lord because I know I know who did it and even

2961
02:16:49.060 --> 02:16:49.763
me coming here.

2962
02:16:49.803 --> 02:16:50.164
I prayed.

2963
02:16:50.184 --> 02:16:52.292
I go, God, I'm tired.

2964
02:16:52.834 --> 02:16:54.640
I sat outside the bench where I do my hitting,

2965
02:16:54.800 --> 02:16:55.988
where you guys saw in that video.

2966
02:16:56.048 --> 02:16:57.800
And I said, I told pastor this when we were eating.

2967
02:16:58.881 --> 02:17:00.046
I said, Lord, I'm really tired.

2968
02:17:01.230 --> 02:17:03.540
If you could open up the doors for me to share the story of what

2969
02:17:03.600 --> 02:17:07.877
Debbie and I did, we're part of, I don't know how to do the internet.

2970
02:17:07.897 --> 02:17:08.640
I don't know how to do all

2971
02:17:08.680 --> 02:17:08.861
that.

2972
02:17:08.881 --> 02:17:09.945
I barely get home at night.

2973
02:17:10.789 --> 02:17:13.660
Next thing I know, they call me when I'm driving down the street

2974
02:17:13.680 --> 02:17:17.960
and I had watched pastor before and I loved him because he took stands for everything I believe.

2975
02:17:18.021 --> 02:17:19.380
And I'm like, yeah, I like that guy.

2976
02:17:20.003 --> 02:17:21.280
He reminds me of me, you know?

2977
02:17:21.340 --> 02:17:22.620
And I said, I love that guy.

2978
02:17:23.060 --> 02:17:26.020
And the guy, and then Matt's like, yeah, I'm from, you know, Chino.

2979
02:17:26.260 --> 02:17:27.558
I said, Calvary, what?

2980
02:17:27.962 --> 02:17:28.399
Who's this?

2981
02:17:28.781 --> 02:17:30.520
It was like three days after I prayed that.

2982
02:17:30.941 --> 02:17:33.180
They invite me out here to share this stuff.

2983
02:17:33.260 --> 02:17:34.640
And I'm like, wow.

2984
02:17:34.740 --> 02:17:40.480
But I just want to love on you guys to tell you how precious you are in God's sight, everybody.

2985
02:17:40.940 --> 02:17:44.220
And if you're in pain, if you're going through hurt, God, there's hope.

2986
02:17:44.781 --> 02:17:46.080
Just keep hanging in there, man.

2987
02:17:46.563 --> 02:17:49.340
My dad used to always say, just keep answering the bell.

2988
02:17:50.141 --> 02:17:51.500
When that bell rings, he was a boxer.

2989
02:17:51.680 --> 02:17:56.180
He goes, just get up in the name of Jesus and keep following him, being faithful.

2990
02:17:57.082 --> 02:17:59.040
Trust him and dream big dreams.

2991
02:17:59.240 --> 02:18:02.840
You young people, God has a destiny for you, something incredible.

2992
02:18:03.420 --> 02:18:04.360
And you're not too old.

2993
02:18:04.460 --> 02:18:08.800
We're in our 50s, and we're able to see the power of God work like we never believed.

2994
02:18:09.120 --> 02:18:10.320
And it's God that does it.

2995
02:18:10.481 --> 02:18:11.660
He's the one that's glorified.

2996
02:18:12.022 --> 02:18:13.098
He's the one that's lifted up.

2997
02:18:13.722 --> 02:18:16.531
he's the one that caused it all to happen.

2998
02:18:17.273 --> 02:18:19.500
And I can tell you stories of till tomorrow,

2999
02:18:19.780 --> 02:18:22.712
you know, tell them about how great God is, how he provided the money.

3000
02:18:23.917 --> 02:18:24.660
Real quick, Pastor,

3001
02:18:24.800 --> 02:18:27.929
this one was the first adoption.

3002
02:18:27.949 --> 02:18:31.800
I had taken some money and I'd set it aside to even tell Debbie.

3003
02:18:32.320 --> 02:18:37.880
I had saved enough money and I had saved almost $10,000 of just money in a sock.

3004
02:18:39.244 --> 02:18:43.900
don't go into my house and rob there's no more socks filled with it so but i put it in there i

3005
02:18:43.900 --> 02:18:50.560
didn't even know how much it was and our first bill came for our adoption first kid and you know

3006
02:18:50.600 --> 02:18:55.460
you're a youth minister you know you make the big bucks of youth and work but um but anyway so i had

3007
02:18:55.560 --> 02:19:00.260
saved this money doing hitting lessons you know and the first bill came and it was ten thousand

3008
02:19:01.203 --> 02:19:01.765
and I had it.

3009
02:19:02.266 --> 02:19:03.591
And I go, Lord, perfect.

3010
02:19:04.815 --> 02:19:06.440
And my air conditioner went out in my house.

3011
02:19:07.761 --> 02:19:09.306
The guy said to be about 10,000.

3012
02:19:11.312 --> 02:19:14.100
I go out in the backyard and I got to pay on Monday,

3013
02:19:15.140 --> 02:19:16.825
this adoption bill.

3014
02:19:18.170 --> 02:19:21.400
And I go out, I go outside the God, I go, Lord,

3015
02:19:22.521 --> 02:19:24.588
you get your idea about this adoption.

3016
02:19:24.608 --> 02:19:26.755
I can't, it's summertime.

3017
02:19:26.816 --> 02:19:28.020
I got no air conditioning.

3018
02:19:28.060 --> 02:19:28.120
And

3019
02:19:28.160 --> 02:19:29.626
the guy said, your unit's shot.

3020
02:19:30.249 --> 02:19:31.213
And I got this money.

3021
02:19:31.273 --> 02:19:32.980
And I said, so this air conditioning guy

3022
02:19:33.040 --> 02:19:33.926
comes up, an older guy.

3023
02:19:34.429 --> 02:19:35.616
And he goes, I hear you're adopting.

3024
02:19:35.657 --> 02:19:36.039
And he goes, yeah.

3025
02:19:36.059 --> 02:19:36.220
He goes,

3026
02:19:36.260 --> 02:19:38.368
I gave my life to Jesus about three weeks ago.

3027
02:19:38.669 --> 02:19:40.155
This amazing Christian walk.

3028
02:19:40.276 --> 02:19:40.818
I go, yeah.

3029
02:19:40.838 --> 02:19:41.380
He goes,

3030
02:19:41.400 --> 02:19:42.486
that's pretty cool what you're doing.

3031
02:19:42.828 --> 02:19:44.036
He goes, yeah, your unit's shot.

3032
02:19:44.156 --> 02:19:44.800
And I go, is there any

3033
02:19:44.860 --> 02:19:48.840
way over the weekend you could at least try to fix it a little bit to get it through the summer?

3034
02:19:49.020 --> 02:19:49.782
He goes, I'll try.

3035
02:19:51.046 --> 02:19:54.396
I went away to do a baseball camp that weekend or up in town.

3036
02:19:54.577 --> 02:19:55.640
And I get back

3037
02:19:55.700 --> 02:19:59.260
and there's all these Hispanic guys in my yard

3038
02:19:59.441 --> 02:20:01.631
fixing the unit and the brothers.

3039
02:20:03.720 --> 02:20:05.500
And I'm like, hey, I go, where'd all these guys?

3040
02:20:05.620 --> 02:20:07.860
I mean, I got a whole team of brothers here, you know?

3041
02:20:09.346 --> 02:20:11.400
And there's a brand new unit on my house.

3042
02:20:12.122 --> 02:20:14.720
And I said, that guy didn't understand what I said.

3043
02:20:14.923 --> 02:20:15.499
Oh no.

3044
02:20:16.142 --> 02:20:18.079
I said, now I'm gonna have to pay him the 10 grand

3045
02:20:19.006 --> 02:20:21.080
and it's a brand new big unit, you know?

3046
02:20:21.100 --> 02:20:22.420
And I'm like, oh no.

3047
02:20:23.202 --> 02:20:24.980
And I'm like, well, I go up to the guy

3048
02:20:25.000 --> 02:20:27.310
and the guy goes, let me tell you something.

3049
02:20:27.330 --> 02:20:29.740
He said, before I knew Jesus, I wouldn't do free

3050
02:20:29.961 --> 02:20:31.265
visits with my own mom.

3051
02:20:32.127 --> 02:20:35.016
He goes, I was a cheap guy all about me.

3052
02:20:35.297 --> 02:20:36.220
He goes, and I was going to

3053
02:20:36.240 --> 02:20:37.023
charge you too.

3054
02:20:37.947 --> 02:20:40.337
He said, I went to bed last night and I couldn't sleep.

3055
02:20:40.357 --> 02:20:41.180
And I'm somebody that falls

3056
02:20:41.280 --> 02:20:42.003
asleep right away.

3057
02:20:42.766 --> 02:20:46.220
And God spoke to my heart and said, you know, that unit you took off that was

3058
02:20:46.300 --> 02:20:47.806
brand new that the guy didn't want.

3059
02:20:48.408 --> 02:20:51.460
He goes, I want you to give it to the coils and I don't want

3060
02:20:51.520 --> 02:20:53.165
you to charge them.

3061
02:20:53.505 --> 02:20:56.253
He put a brand new unit on my house.

3062
02:20:56.955 --> 02:20:58.599
I couldn't run to pay that 10,000 for

3063
02:20:58.920 --> 02:21:00.125
that adoption fast enough.

3064
02:21:00.427 --> 02:21:03.580
And my unit on our house right now, people go, people don't put

3065
02:21:03.660 --> 02:21:04.883
brand new units on your house.

3066
02:21:04.923 --> 02:21:09.294
I go, well, talk to my, my King about it.

3067
02:21:11.058 --> 02:21:11.840
But there's many more

3068
02:21:11.940 --> 02:21:13.626
stories like that, that that's just one.

3069
02:21:14.730 --> 02:21:16.376
The willingness to be radical.

3070
02:21:16.637 --> 02:21:17.440
We've lost that.

3071
02:21:19.044 --> 02:21:25.160
And I personally believe that it's directly in correlation to the faith that once made this nation great.

3072
02:21:26.645 --> 02:21:27.720
America took risks.

3073
02:21:28.400 --> 02:21:38.260
It was impossible for us, for example, to take the yoke off of our neck of the British Empire.

3074
02:21:39.522 --> 02:21:43.900
The things that were being imposed upon our freedoms and our liberties.

3075
02:21:44.828 --> 02:21:46.140
which you may or may not realize

3076
02:21:46.261 --> 02:21:47.780
that in the revolutionary period

3077
02:21:49.152 --> 02:21:49.778
the most prosperous

3078
02:21:50.040 --> 02:21:50.282
land

3079
02:21:52.341 --> 02:21:53.378
that England owned

3080
02:21:55.596 --> 02:21:56.099
in the world

3081
02:21:56.807 --> 02:21:57.880
was the 13 colonies.

3082
02:21:58.020 --> 02:21:58.504
Did you know that?

3083
02:21:58.908 --> 02:22:00.280
Did you know that the 13 colonies

3084
02:22:00.522 --> 02:22:02.260
funded the entire

3085
02:22:02.725 --> 02:22:04.080
global British campaign

3086
02:22:04.142 --> 02:22:04.780
of the empire?

3087
02:22:06.002 --> 02:22:06.789
13 colonies.

3088
02:22:06.849 --> 02:22:08.160
Did you know why New Jersey

3089
02:22:08.322 --> 02:22:09.359
is called the Garden State?

3090
02:22:10.460 --> 02:22:11.960
Do you know who named it the Garden State?

3091
02:22:13.865 --> 02:22:20.020
when General Howe and Burgoyne,

3092
02:22:20.201 --> 02:22:22.999
when they had just conquered Manhattan,

3093
02:22:23.340 --> 02:22:24.819
they had just taken Fort Washington,

3094
02:22:25.581 --> 02:22:26.760
they had captured Fort Lee,

3095
02:22:28.409 --> 02:22:30.440
and they were going to go through New Jersey

3096
02:22:31.846 --> 02:22:32.931
to destroy the colonies

3097
02:22:35.041 --> 02:22:40.920
by capturing the Jersey area

3098
02:22:41.262 --> 02:22:44.940
and then heading over to, ultimately, the stop was Philadelphia.

3099
02:22:47.022 --> 02:22:49.758
And it was the British that went to New Jersey,

3100
02:22:50.360 --> 02:22:52.279
and they're the ones who called it the Garden State.

3101
02:22:53.383 --> 02:22:55.380
It was technically the Garden of Eden State.

3102
02:22:55.500 --> 02:22:56.220
That's what they called it.

3103
02:22:56.240 --> 02:22:58.000
They said, this is none other than the Garden of Eden.

3104
02:22:58.662 --> 02:22:59.559
Why do I say all that?

3105
02:23:00.481 --> 02:23:04.360
Because even the British recognized everything in America was better.

3106
02:23:04.720 --> 02:23:06.356
Their homes were better than homes in England.

3107
02:23:08.644 --> 02:23:17.140
There were officers in the British military, career officers, who did not live as good as the average American farmer.

3108
02:23:18.242 --> 02:23:20.840
Did you know that we had our own handmade furniture?

3109
02:23:24.446 --> 02:23:25.360
They had no such thing.

3110
02:23:27.322 --> 02:23:32.240
They said that you could walk out of a house, any house, you could milk a cow.

3111
02:23:34.328 --> 02:23:37.460
you could pull up potatoes and you could pull apples off of a tree

3112
02:23:39.085 --> 02:23:43.800
and if that wasn't enough you can walk down to the shore this is hard to believe you could walk

3113
02:23:43.860 --> 02:23:51.380
down to the shore and you could grab lobster that would just be on the shore why do i say that

3114
02:23:52.951 --> 02:23:54.220
because everything about america

3115
02:23:56.809 --> 02:23:59.640
is focused around people taking risk in faith.

3116
02:24:00.501 --> 02:24:02.500
Our pilgrim fathers took a risk in faith

3117
02:24:02.603 --> 02:24:03.280
when they came here.

3118
02:24:04.020 --> 02:24:06.120
God blessed, and our founding fathers

3119
02:24:06.242 --> 02:24:07.480
lived off of those blessings.

3120
02:24:08.761 --> 02:24:12.480
Our founding fathers and those in the Revolutionary War

3121
02:24:12.642 --> 02:24:13.958
purchased our freedoms for us.

3122
02:24:15.722 --> 02:24:16.680
And then shortly after that,

3123
02:24:16.740 --> 02:24:18.200
the Industrial Revolution hit.

3124
02:24:19.824 --> 02:24:21.460
And in some ways, it was horrible.

3125
02:24:23.671 --> 02:24:25.300
America was catapulted to the front

3126
02:24:26.350 --> 02:24:27.260
of the global line

3127
02:24:28.613 --> 02:24:29.380
became immediately

3128
02:24:29.624 --> 02:24:30.439
envy of the world

3129
02:24:31.427 --> 02:24:32.011
the 13 colonies

3130
02:24:33.606 --> 02:24:34.599
now the United States

3131
02:24:35.788 --> 02:24:37.360
they were producing more millionaires

3132
02:24:37.461 --> 02:24:39.280
than any other geographical spot

3133
02:24:39.404 --> 02:24:39.939
on the planet

3134
02:24:40.262 --> 02:24:43.000
you know what happened

3135
02:24:44.392 --> 02:24:45.240
we forgot God

3136
02:24:45.401 --> 02:24:47.279
by the 1920s we forgot God

3137
02:24:49.332 --> 02:24:50.519
we haven't been back there since

3138
02:24:53.911 --> 02:24:56.099
it's the young generation of those who are 50

3139
02:24:58.224 --> 02:25:04.400
and under when's the last time you determined i'm going to serve the lord i'm going to take a risk

3140
02:25:04.580 --> 02:25:10.920
let me tell you something back me up from if i'm wrong tell me if i'm if i'm on it say so

3141
02:25:12.164 --> 02:25:17.260
every situation in my life from the beginning of meeting jesus that's worth anything

3142
02:25:20.507 --> 02:25:26.080
my stomach was sick i was nervous i had diarrhea my nerves were shot

3143
02:25:27.724 --> 02:25:34.160
because what god what what i thought god was asking me to do i didn't know if it was god or

3144
02:25:34.300 --> 02:25:42.000
satan i couldn't figure it out as a young christian i didn't know and it's almost like

3145
02:25:42.081 --> 02:25:43.739
I'm going to close my eyes and take a step

3146
02:25:44.305 --> 02:25:45.719
and hope that God's in this.

3147
02:25:46.582 --> 02:25:48.960
I am asking you men, especially young men,

3148
02:25:49.120 --> 02:25:53.800
will you please absolutely become angry

3149
02:25:54.041 --> 02:25:57.412
and diametrically opposed to ease and comfort?

3150
02:26:01.143 --> 02:26:02.779
Because if you can learn how to embrace

3151
02:26:04.386 --> 02:26:08.360
that which is uncomfortable, nobody can stop you.

3152
02:26:10.649 --> 02:26:11.220
You understand that?

3153
02:26:11.441 --> 02:26:15.380
there's people who panic because their soup's not hot enough.

3154
02:26:19.123 --> 02:26:22.960
And it's so embarrassing for the human race.

3155
02:26:24.724 --> 02:26:26.900
We can handle a lot more challenges than that.

3156
02:26:27.480 --> 02:26:32.280
But I'd love to see young men actually terrify themselves

3157
02:26:33.785 --> 02:26:38.180
by asking another young woman on campus out for a cup of coffee.

3158
02:26:40.726 --> 02:26:47.140
did you know that we have young women on campus here telling lisa and i will you tell the young

3159
02:26:47.220 --> 02:26:53.060
men to at least ask us out for a cup of coffee you know young men won't do that anymore because

3160
02:26:53.120 --> 02:27:01.520
they're too afraid of rejection have you noticed that islam and lunatics like the guy that was at

3161
02:27:01.946 --> 02:27:02.860
the White House yesterday?

3162
02:27:04.022 --> 02:27:04.898
Have you noticed how

3163
02:27:06.791 --> 02:27:08.300
crazy belief systems

3164
02:27:09.025 --> 02:27:10.980
never apologize for asking their people

3165
02:27:11.103 --> 02:27:11.679
to be radical?

3166
02:27:14.087 --> 02:27:14.780
Never apologize.

3167
02:27:16.142 --> 02:27:17.520
In fact, they encourage it.

3168
02:27:18.202 --> 02:27:19.159
And people get in line

3169
02:27:20.271 --> 02:27:21.060
to go be a radical.

3170
02:27:23.646 --> 02:27:24.539
I'm going to submit to you

3171
02:27:24.682 --> 02:27:25.598
that that's easy to do

3172
02:27:26.064 --> 02:27:27.259
because the flesh feeds it.

3173
02:27:28.280 --> 02:27:29.059
You want to be a radical?

3174
02:27:30.746 --> 02:27:34.700
determine tonight that you're going to start loving people like jesus want to be radical

3175
02:27:35.362 --> 02:27:41.140
step out of your comfort zone stop living within your own means and let god take you to the edge

3176
02:27:41.602 --> 02:27:46.200
guess what lisa and i look we're older now god's blessed us in many ways

3177
02:27:47.583 --> 02:27:53.880
from stock market when i was 18 years old to to books god's been good to us guess what we don't

3178
02:27:53.920 --> 02:27:54.261
need it.

3179
02:27:55.342 --> 02:27:56.264
We've never needed it.

3180
02:27:57.927 --> 02:28:04.578
Because we learned at the young age of 21 and 19 when we got married,

3181
02:28:07.966 --> 02:28:09.473
we literally know how to live.

3182
02:28:09.493 --> 02:28:11.200
There's something called hamburger helper,

3183
02:28:12.041 --> 02:28:12.983
and I'm not joking.

3184
02:28:14.406 --> 02:28:17.532
You know hot dogs cut up in beans?

3185
02:28:17.852 --> 02:28:19.295
Oh yeah.

3186
02:28:21.379 --> 02:28:21.900
We love it.

3187
02:28:25.705 --> 02:28:31.700
we listen we can live like that just the other night some sweet people took us out just to bless

3188
02:28:31.860 --> 02:28:38.218
us and they took us to this place in beverly hills where i think the salad was like 95 bucks

3189
02:28:40.202 --> 02:28:50.460
no i'm not joking and um lisa cooks better but we ate it and it was nice don't get me wrong

3190
02:28:52.728 --> 02:28:56.260
we've learned how to be abased and we've learned how to abound

3191
02:28:58.045 --> 02:29:03.020
but what i want some of you guys to know is you can actually live off of drinking water

3192
02:29:04.104 --> 02:29:08.780
and eating pork and beans and paying your bills and tithing to tithing to the lord's work

3193
02:29:10.285 --> 02:29:14.780
and then over decades 47 years of marriage we look back and it's like

3194
02:29:16.744 --> 02:29:17.566
we can do anything.

3195
02:29:18.929 --> 02:29:21.634
We can eat salad with vinegar on it.

3196
02:29:21.715 --> 02:29:22.115
That's all.

3197
02:29:22.296 --> 02:29:23.939
Or what do we have?

3198
02:29:23.999 --> 02:29:24.280
We have

3199
02:29:24.380 --> 02:29:28.410
salt, pepper, we have lettuce and olive oil.

3200
02:29:29.293 --> 02:29:30.375
All right, let's make that work.

3201
02:29:31.438 --> 02:29:32.180
You know how fun that

3202
02:29:32.280 --> 02:29:32.421
is?

3203
02:29:33.344 --> 02:29:35.450
It's called taking a risk and you can really have a blast.

3204
02:29:37.296 --> 02:29:38.500
God might be speaking to you tonight.

3205
02:29:38.640 --> 02:29:39.605
Maybe it is adoption.

3206
02:29:39.625 --> 02:29:40.731
Maybe God's calling some of you.

3207
02:29:40.751 --> 02:29:42.119
You should, you should do this.

3208
02:29:42.139 --> 02:29:42.400
And you're

3209
02:29:42.400 --> 02:29:43.020
You think, I don't know.

3210
02:29:44.785 --> 02:29:45.739
What if it's something else?

3211
02:29:49.241 --> 02:29:54.160
Just about done with a book that's going to be coming out soon.

3212
02:29:56.163 --> 02:29:57.331
The book is titled Manhunt.

3213
02:29:59.902 --> 02:30:02.520
What every man needs to be and what every woman wants in a man.

3214
02:30:04.781 --> 02:30:10.560
And in one of those chapters, there's a young man that I know.

3215
02:30:12.701 --> 02:30:17.300
Who grew up with this beautiful young girl in the Lord.

3216
02:30:18.522 --> 02:30:19.779
Shared the same schools.

3217
02:30:20.900 --> 02:30:23.400
Everybody could see this happening for decades.

3218
02:30:23.843 --> 02:30:24.700
Just a matter of time.

3219
02:30:28.262 --> 02:30:33.400
But as he got in his mid-twenties, he proposed.

3220
02:30:33.540 --> 02:30:34.199
She said yes.

3221
02:30:35.742 --> 02:30:38.620
And then he said, well, okay, we need to save up some money, though.

3222
02:30:38.680 --> 02:30:39.879
We need to just save up some money.

3223
02:30:41.630 --> 02:30:43.280
saved up some money, but that's never enough.

3224
02:30:43.501 --> 02:30:44.460
If you're not going to take a risk,

3225
02:30:44.520 --> 02:30:45.739
it's never enough money to save.

3226
02:30:47.324 --> 02:30:48.620
And then he said, we have to get a house

3227
02:30:48.722 --> 02:30:49.500
before we get married.

3228
02:30:50.604 --> 02:30:50.870
Really?

3229
02:30:50.890 --> 02:30:51.360
In Orange County?

3230
02:30:53.163 --> 02:30:54.300
First of all, in California?

3231
02:30:56.213 --> 02:30:56.340
Okay.

3232
02:30:56.841 --> 02:30:58.200
Have you seen the price of outhouses?

3233
02:30:59.243 --> 02:31:00.020
Since the homelessness,

3234
02:31:00.341 --> 02:31:01.579
that's like premium property now

3235
02:31:01.660 --> 02:31:02.840
if you're trying to buy an outhouse.

3236
02:31:06.764 --> 02:31:07.760
So they couldn't get married

3237
02:31:07.821 --> 02:31:08.800
because they had to have a house.

3238
02:31:11.768 --> 02:31:14.480
saves up enough money for the appointed down payment,

3239
02:31:14.882 --> 02:31:15.579
and then he said,

3240
02:31:17.886 --> 02:31:21.340
in this world where we live, a million dollars is nothing.

3241
02:31:23.863 --> 02:31:26.400
So we need to save more than that,

3242
02:31:26.860 --> 02:31:27.860
and then we'll get married.

3243
02:31:28.562 --> 02:31:29.660
Do you know what eventually happened?

3244
02:31:32.226 --> 02:31:33.640
He wound up cutting off the...

3245
02:31:34.701 --> 02:31:38.000
He became so consumed with trying to have it all done

3246
02:31:38.101 --> 02:31:40.380
before they ever got started that they never got started.

3247
02:31:42.942 --> 02:31:45.360
And he said, you know, I just got to keep working on this.

3248
02:31:45.420 --> 02:31:47.440
And she said, I got to go.

3249
02:31:49.602 --> 02:31:52.160
And that woman, that young woman walked away

3250
02:31:52.402 --> 02:31:54.040
after growing up with this young man,

3251
02:31:54.581 --> 02:31:57.340
with everyone telling them, you guys are destined, man.

3252
02:31:57.541 --> 02:31:58.520
This is so God.

3253
02:31:59.880 --> 02:32:00.560
You know what happened?

3254
02:32:00.640 --> 02:32:02.079
The love of the world got inside of him.

3255
02:32:02.500 --> 02:32:03.959
He didn't trust God.

3256
02:32:06.750 --> 02:32:09.400
everything that's great in life starts with a risk

3257
02:32:11.670 --> 02:32:13.600
stop playing it easy stop playing it safe

3258
02:32:15.644 --> 02:32:23.460
just stop not trusting god get out of the boat that's a good word who said that lee just said

3259
02:32:23.520 --> 02:32:31.140
that read the book yeah get out of the boat what a great thing that is uh what a great thing

3260
02:32:33.566 --> 02:32:38.420
the disciples think they're going to die huge storm in the middle of the night

3261
02:32:40.905 --> 02:32:47.780
and jesus says jesus comes walking by it says he would have he came walking by as if to keep going

3262
02:32:47.880 --> 02:32:54.120
he was going to keep going that's amazing and they're all crying and screaming and peter

3263
02:32:56.749 --> 02:33:00.240
Peter said, Lord, if that's you, this is powerful.

3264
02:33:00.541 --> 02:33:02.100
I think that's brilliant of Peter.

3265
02:33:03.701 --> 02:33:09.620
Lord, if it's you, notice, if it's you, tell me to come to you.

3266
02:33:11.223 --> 02:33:11.859
Okay, that's cool.

3267
02:33:12.421 --> 02:33:13.139
Number one, if.

3268
02:33:13.483 --> 02:33:13.940
That's smart.

3269
02:33:15.305 --> 02:33:16.220
But this is what he knows.

3270
02:33:17.165 --> 02:33:17.700
I know Jesus.

3271
02:33:18.363 --> 02:33:18.859
This is Peter.

3272
02:33:19.103 --> 02:33:19.599
I know Jesus.

3273
02:33:20.161 --> 02:33:30.540
Jesus is the only one who I know is crazy enough to test our faith so that if I say,

3274
02:33:30.900 --> 02:33:36.140
Jesus, if it's you, tell me to step out of the boat, because only Jesus would say, step.

3275
02:33:38.882 --> 02:33:43.820
And as soon as Peter heard Jesus say, come on, he knew it was the Lord.

3276
02:33:44.362 --> 02:33:44.799
And he stepped.

3277
02:33:45.140 --> 02:33:46.320
Peter walked on water, folks.

3278
02:33:47.967 --> 02:33:50.800
it wasn't until he got his eyes off of Jesus that he sank

3279
02:33:52.564 --> 02:33:58.320
but isn't it awesome I'm going to talk to him about that when I see him what was that like

3280
02:33:59.985 --> 02:34:05.160
think about it he took a huge risk yeah but you know what I said if it's you tell me to step

3281
02:34:07.607 --> 02:34:12.300
because he's the only one who would say yes step into the impossible

3282
02:34:14.173 --> 02:34:15.060
God's not going to say

3283
02:34:15.707 --> 02:34:16.698
hey this is me

3284
02:34:18.112 --> 02:34:18.839
brush your teeth

3285
02:34:19.221 --> 02:34:20.526
that's not a sign

3286
02:34:27.395 --> 02:34:28.159
but if God says

3287
02:34:29.614 --> 02:34:29.978
do this

3288
02:34:31.052 --> 02:34:31.700
and you're terrified

3289
02:34:31.720 --> 02:34:33.379
yeah that's probably God

3290
02:34:35.673 --> 02:34:36.799
yeah John 8 12

3291
02:34:37.244 --> 02:34:38.480
Jesus says I am the light of the world

3292
02:34:38.541 --> 02:34:40.400
who follows me will not walk in darkness

3293
02:34:40.562 --> 02:34:41.555
but shall have the light of life

3294
02:34:42.581 --> 02:34:44.440
That's the verse that I've always learned,

3295
02:34:45.302 --> 02:34:46.440
that when you follow Jesus,

3296
02:34:46.640 --> 02:34:48.860
when you give your life to him, his light,

3297
02:34:49.826 --> 02:34:50.619
it brings life.

3298
02:34:52.461 --> 02:34:54.599
And that's the most powerful thing that I see,

3299
02:34:55.640 --> 02:34:58.440
that wherever you go, when you follow Christ,

3300
02:34:59.423 --> 02:35:01.500
it's the most exciting thing you'll ever experience.

3301
02:35:01.520 --> 02:35:02.239
It might be hard.

3302
02:35:02.702 --> 02:35:03.640
It might be difficult.

3303
02:35:04.180 --> 02:35:04.819
It sure it is.

3304
02:35:05.020 --> 02:35:05.980
You know, you follow him.

3305
02:35:06.341 --> 02:35:07.900
He said, take up your cross and follow me.

3306
02:35:07.940 --> 02:35:10.740
It's not, you know, I heard a preacher one time,

3307
02:35:10.921 --> 02:35:16.200
an old video guy was preaching at Berkeley, Cal Berkeley, and it was during the Jesus revolution.

3308
02:35:16.801 --> 02:35:20.780
I can't remember which minister it was, but he was yelling, you know, all around him,

3309
02:35:20.860 --> 02:35:25.694
the people were yelling, give us Barabbas, give us Barabbas.

3310
02:35:26.276 --> 02:35:27.580
And he was trying to share the gospel

3311
02:35:28.363 --> 02:35:30.192
and he yelled out to all the young students.

3312
02:35:30.232 --> 02:35:32.020
And this is sixties lingo, but he said,

3313
02:35:32.461 --> 02:35:37.400
let me tell you something, folks, that G that groovy Jesus trip never did exist.

3314
02:35:38.062 --> 02:35:40.028
it's going to cost you everything to follow him.

3315
02:35:42.236 --> 02:35:43.560
And I remember in the locker rooms,

3316
02:35:44.201 --> 02:35:47.411
the mocking and the laughing and people making fun.

3317
02:35:47.892 --> 02:35:49.035
You follow Christ, man.

3318
02:35:49.537 --> 02:35:50.500
There's a cost to it,

3319
02:35:51.300 --> 02:35:56.116
but there is a power and there is an excitement about what you see, what God does.

3320
02:35:56.859 --> 02:35:57.260
Watch what

3321
02:35:57.360 --> 02:35:58.184
Jesus will do.

3322
02:35:58.265 --> 02:35:59.028
Watch what he'll do.

3323
02:35:59.068 --> 02:36:01.620
You follow him with all your heart and you'll see the power

3324
02:36:01.680 --> 02:36:02.062
of God.

3325
02:36:02.262 --> 02:36:07.280
That's what that light, the light that he talks about goes into darkness and darkness flees

3326
02:36:07.661 --> 02:36:14.140
When you walk into a room, the enemy flees because of the power of God, the light that's in you through Jesus Christ.

3327
02:36:14.382 --> 02:36:15.260
And that's what's powerful.

3328
02:36:15.520 --> 02:36:21.460
In locker rooms, in classrooms, and wherever you go, you take the light of Jesus, and that's where the power is.

3329
02:36:22.282 --> 02:36:26.860
And it's clearly going on in professional sports, at least in America.

3330
02:36:27.040 --> 02:36:29.960
I don't know anything about the UK or South America.

3331
02:36:30.240 --> 02:36:46.460
But you look in the NFL, the amount of genuine Christian display of players praying and boldly talking about Jesus.

3332
02:36:48.303 --> 02:36:55.660
And this basketball player who, actually there's more than one basketball player, but people are speaking out boldly about the Lord.

3333
02:36:55.800 --> 02:37:02.240
And I remember in the days of a guy by the name of Tim Tebow who took a knee, you know, he started the whole thing, you know.

3334
02:37:03.284 --> 02:37:04.199
What's that guy's name?

3335
02:37:05.423 --> 02:37:06.439
Something Pumpernickel?

3336
02:37:08.281 --> 02:37:08.660
Kaepernick?

3337
02:37:09.440 --> 02:37:09.859
Kaepernickle?

3338
02:37:11.288 --> 02:37:11.740
What's his name?

3339
02:37:12.001 --> 02:37:12.380
Kaepernick.

3340
02:37:12.880 --> 02:37:13.299
Kaepernick?

3341
02:37:14.046 --> 02:37:14.900
Oh, that's easy.

3342
02:37:16.142 --> 02:37:17.080
Colin Kaepernick?

3343
02:37:18.205 --> 02:37:18.960
Remember he took a knee?

3344
02:37:19.922 --> 02:37:22.060
Did you know that Tim Tebow took a knee long before he did?

3345
02:37:22.725 --> 02:37:23.740
He just tried to steal it.

3346
02:37:24.203 --> 02:37:25.600
Tim Tebow took a knee for Jesus.

3347
02:37:26.184 --> 02:37:27.899
and people got all upset about it.

3348
02:37:29.000 --> 02:37:30.980
And Kaepernick takes a knee

3349
02:37:31.122 --> 02:37:32.100
for whatever he took a knee for.

3350
02:37:32.322 --> 02:37:33.200
It wasn't very impactful

3351
02:37:33.220 --> 02:37:34.380
because I forgot what it's about.

3352
02:37:35.880 --> 02:37:38.614
But notice you will stand

3353
02:37:39.901 --> 02:37:40.740
or make a statement

3354
02:37:40.822 --> 02:37:41.800
or take a knee for something.

3355
02:37:43.422 --> 02:37:45.139
And what we want to encourage you to do

3356
02:37:46.106 --> 02:37:48.280
is you stand way taller

3357
02:37:49.267 --> 02:37:51.020
after you take a knee with Jesus

3358
02:37:51.306 --> 02:37:51.920
and for Jesus.

3359
02:37:52.661 --> 02:37:54.119
There's just something about him

3360
02:37:54.701 --> 02:38:00.354
never, Pastor Chuck always taught us, you can't out-serve God.

3361
02:38:00.395 --> 02:38:02.299
You can't out-give God.

3362
02:38:02.540 --> 02:38:02.740
He'll

3363
02:38:02.900 --> 02:38:07.392
never, I love this, he'll never become indebted to you.

3364
02:38:09.056 --> 02:38:09.758
Isn't that a good word?

3365
02:38:09.818 --> 02:38:10.460
Jesus will never

3366
02:38:10.540 --> 02:38:11.505
become indebted to you.

3367
02:38:11.545 --> 02:38:14.820
Like, oh my goodness, did you see how much they did for me this weekend?

3368
02:38:16.171 --> 02:38:17.300
I've got to bless them somehow

3369
02:38:18.032 --> 02:38:18.358
no no

3370
02:38:18.561 --> 02:38:18.601
no

3371
02:38:22.774 --> 02:38:23.620
before we wrap this up

3372
02:38:23.681 --> 02:38:24.376
I want to ask you

3373
02:38:27.175 --> 02:38:28.160
and I hope I'm the first one

3374
02:38:28.241 --> 02:38:29.540
publicly asking this question

3375
02:38:30.148 --> 02:38:30.999
because it's kind of fun

3376
02:38:31.324 --> 02:38:32.238
to hear you answer this

3377
02:38:33.312 --> 02:38:33.838
each of these

3378
02:38:34.749 --> 02:38:35.579
each of these girls

3379
02:38:37.335 --> 02:38:37.779
by name

3380
02:38:39.292 --> 02:38:40.078
where will they be

3381
02:38:40.766 --> 02:38:42.040
according to your estimation

3382
02:38:43.390 --> 02:38:44.780
10, 15 years from right now?

3383
02:38:46.100 --> 02:38:48.020
Well, the first one we got, Leah,

3384
02:38:48.160 --> 02:38:49.660
she's already been on two mission trips.

3385
02:38:50.620 --> 02:38:53.680
She wants to work with the sexually broken

3386
02:38:54.042 --> 02:38:58.040
and delivering babies on the mission field

3387
02:38:58.302 --> 02:38:59.831
to all the sexually abused people,

3388
02:39:01.341 --> 02:39:02.420
those are girls that are pregnant.

3389
02:39:04.311 --> 02:39:05.080
Yes, probably.

3390
02:39:05.563 --> 02:39:06.819
It probably has a lot to do with that.

3391
02:39:07.621 --> 02:39:10.920
So I see her doing great things on the mission field full time.

3392
02:39:12.242 --> 02:39:14.060
I see that, and she's already started that.

3393
02:39:14.540 --> 02:39:18.300
Savita, I think Savita could be a senator.

3394
02:39:20.426 --> 02:39:21.600
Wait, why would you say that?

3395
02:39:21.640 --> 02:39:22.740
Or something like that.

3396
02:39:22.880 --> 02:39:25.700
She's either a great, something big.

3397
02:39:26.662 --> 02:39:28.240
She's, I mean.

3398
02:39:28.602 --> 02:39:30.040
She's the one that loves apologetics?

3399
02:39:30.180 --> 02:39:34.560
Yes, or working with, she's as good as any of those guys

3400
02:39:34.641 --> 02:39:35.560
that are out there right now,

3401
02:39:35.600 --> 02:39:37.720
but she really loves to save babies' lives.

3402
02:39:38.240 --> 02:39:39.120
She loves children.

3403
02:39:39.120 --> 02:39:43.620
and she really wants a husband who loves Jesus,

3404
02:39:43.780 --> 02:39:44.699
but that's another story.

3405
02:39:45.082 --> 02:39:46.800
But if you know any good looking guys out there

3406
02:39:46.901 --> 02:39:48.600
who love Jesus, talk to me.

3407
02:39:49.181 --> 02:39:50.539
You gotta go through the rock.

3408
02:39:50.700 --> 02:39:51.055
That's right.

3409
02:39:52.225 --> 02:39:53.280
You better know how to fight

3410
02:39:53.764 --> 02:39:55.600
because I'll beat your kneecaps up in a hurry

3411
02:39:56.750 --> 02:39:57.920
unless you're short like me.

3412
02:39:59.823 --> 02:40:02.038
And our prayer for, and then Chi Chi,

3413
02:40:03.264 --> 02:40:04.460
she's already an esthetician.

3414
02:40:04.580 --> 02:40:07.520
She loves to work with, even with her hands,

3415
02:40:07.620 --> 02:40:10.772
she loves to do, you know, she does that right now.

3416
02:40:11.213 --> 02:40:13.060
But I look at her, she's had dreams of maybe

3417
02:40:13.201 --> 02:40:15.451
doing stuff with Leah, but I don't know.

3418
02:40:15.471 --> 02:40:16.254
We'll see about that.

3419
02:40:16.274 --> 02:40:17.218
But I see great things.

3420
02:40:17.259 --> 02:40:17.500
She's a,

3421
02:40:17.900 --> 02:40:19.789
she would be a great businesswoman somewhere.

3422
02:40:19.809 --> 02:40:20.412
And I see that.

3423
02:40:20.855 --> 02:40:21.960
My other two have a little bit

3424
02:40:22.020 --> 02:40:27.780
more special things about them, you know, as far as their, how smart they are in certain areas.

3425
02:40:28.340 --> 02:40:31.309
But Abigail loves animals.

3426
02:40:31.349 --> 02:40:33.455
So I see her one day working.

3427
02:40:33.475 --> 02:40:35.260
If we hope that she may be getting a

3428
02:40:35.320 --> 02:40:41.600
ministry or something somewhere where she could work with people or possibly at a ranch or

3429
02:40:42.282 --> 02:40:44.188
something like that because she loves animals.

3430
02:40:44.208 --> 02:40:47.699
She's a real sweet girl, but she has some

3431
02:40:48.080 --> 02:40:52.873
limitations as far as in her mind, so that's a challenge.

3432
02:40:52.914 --> 02:40:55.260
And then Allison, the last one we got,

3433
02:40:56.060 --> 02:41:03.740
she works with a Christian lady that does hair, and she is the sweetest, kindest

3434
02:41:04.983 --> 02:41:09.556
little girl, or she's a young woman, but she washes the hair of elderly.

3435
02:41:10.038 --> 02:41:10.739
Can you imagine her

3436
02:41:12.204 --> 02:41:13.408
so sweet talking to them?

3437
02:41:13.429 --> 02:41:16.800
They just love her, and she washes their hair and ministers to them.

3438
02:41:17.420 --> 02:41:20.360
And, you know, those are the two that Debbie and I are the most concerned because we

3439
02:41:21.866 --> 02:41:25.640
want to make sure they're taken care of because sometimes they're both very naive,

3440
02:41:26.741 --> 02:41:33.660
and someone can come along and the enemy could, you know, I so worry about them if we get too old.

3441
02:41:34.362 --> 02:41:39.080
not around, but because they're so sweet and trusting that, you know, I pray that they'll

3442
02:41:39.140 --> 02:41:43.540
be in situations that, you know, that they'll be able to be able to handle that and be in a safe

3443
02:41:43.680 --> 02:41:44.001
area.

3444
02:41:44.402 --> 02:41:46.287
But, but all of them are going to do great things.

3445
02:41:46.388 --> 02:41:50.920
And Debbie, my wife has homeschooled them

3446
02:41:51.040 --> 02:41:51.241
all.

3447
02:41:51.462 --> 02:41:56.380
English as a second language, and she's prepared them for so long to be successful.

3448
02:41:56.901 --> 02:41:58.226
They're going to do great things.

3449
02:41:58.709 --> 02:42:01.400
And you know, a lot of you ladies that have come tonight,

3450
02:42:02.182 --> 02:42:03.700
A lot of times you're behind the scenes

3451
02:42:03.801 --> 02:42:06.040
and you're doing things that nobody sits there and applauds.

3452
02:42:08.564 --> 02:42:11.840
But man, God in heaven is applauding what you're doing

3453
02:42:12.324 --> 02:42:13.920
when you're sacrificing and giving.

3454
02:42:14.080 --> 02:42:16.620
And my wife did that with all of our girls,

3455
02:42:16.760 --> 02:42:21.340
the paperwork, the counseling, this trauma, all the things.

3456
02:42:21.500 --> 02:42:24.080
So Debbie could even give you more of an insight on that,

3457
02:42:24.160 --> 02:42:26.400
but I see all of them doing great things.

3458
02:42:26.744 --> 02:42:28.020
And I'm hoping that that's what I see.

3459
02:42:28.100 --> 02:42:30.160
Most importantly, they're gonna stand

3460
02:42:30.261 --> 02:42:32.000
before a holy God one day and he's going to say,

3461
02:42:32.120 --> 02:42:34.160
welcome, good and faithful servants.

3462
02:42:34.260 --> 02:42:35.499
And that's the most important thing.

3463
02:42:42.982 --> 02:42:45.640
We're just super grateful to have you and Debbie here.

3464
02:42:45.820 --> 02:42:51.240
And thank you for picking up our invitation to come.

3465
02:42:51.381 --> 02:42:53.400
And we hope that this is the beginning

3466
02:42:54.489 --> 02:42:55.940
of a relationship, friendship.

3467
02:42:56.280 --> 02:42:56.560
Yes.

3468
02:42:57.243 --> 02:42:58.260
We'd love to see.

3469
02:42:58.643 --> 02:43:01.040
I think it'd be great for whatever we can do.

3470
02:43:03.241 --> 02:43:10.020
It's only natural for me to connect Savita with Frank Turek.

3471
02:43:10.301 --> 02:43:12.160
If I can text them, get them on the same text link.

3472
02:43:12.301 --> 02:43:15.340
She would go, she goes, are you going to talk to Jack Hoops?

3473
02:43:15.761 --> 02:43:17.200
And I go, yeah, I already talked to him, man.

3474
02:43:17.200 --> 02:43:17.999
He's just a normal guy.

3475
02:43:18.524 --> 02:43:19.360
Get him to sign an autograph.

3476
02:43:20.004 --> 02:43:21.160
And I said, I will, man.

3477
02:43:21.180 --> 02:43:22.040
He's just a guy, man.

3478
02:43:22.061 --> 02:43:22.840
He's no special.

3479
02:43:23.040 --> 02:43:23.320
Come on.

3480
02:43:24.724 --> 02:43:25.360
Very true.

3481
02:43:27.651 --> 02:43:29.660
I knew Jose Canseco and Mark McGuire too

3482
02:43:29.803 --> 02:43:30.196
so you know

3483
02:43:31.304 --> 02:43:33.752
but thank you

3484
02:43:36.082 --> 02:43:37.660
pastor you know I want to say this

3485
02:43:37.720 --> 02:43:39.399
before I go because you guys don't know this

3486
02:43:41.216 --> 02:43:41.600
it's very

3487
02:43:41.701 --> 02:43:43.079
seldom that you find a man

3488
02:43:43.868 --> 02:43:44.940
of God who's a leader

3489
02:43:45.647 --> 02:43:46.839
with the integrity of this guy

3490
02:43:47.948 --> 02:43:49.499
and I've been around I know you know that

3491
02:43:50.065 --> 02:43:51.560
and I'm not saying he didn't know

3492
02:43:51.560 --> 02:43:52.377
I was going to say this

3493
02:43:53.443 --> 02:43:59.160
give me that give me that money later no i'm just kidding but um but the reason that i connected to

3494
02:43:59.260 --> 02:44:05.280
him was totally not thinking that i was going to be able to god opened that door but many years

3495
02:44:05.320 --> 02:44:08.860
ago when i was playing professional baseball i had a general man a guy was a general manager and

3496
02:44:08.880 --> 02:44:15.060
he was lost and he didn't know jesus and for so long i prayed for this guy and um i get choked

3497
02:44:15.200 --> 02:44:21.259
up talking about this but um he was in new york and he was crying out and he saw his show his his

3498
02:44:21.662 --> 02:44:23.040
one of his preaching.

3499
02:44:24.204 --> 02:44:25.840
And he called the church from New York.

3500
02:44:27.221 --> 02:44:30.120
And somehow his secretaries got him on the phone

3501
02:44:30.120 --> 02:44:31.520
because my friend was suicidal.

3502
02:44:35.742 --> 02:44:39.700
And he took two hours with him on the phone.

3503
02:44:42.146 --> 02:44:43.139
And he led him to Christ.

3504
02:44:45.162 --> 02:44:48.780
And, you know, for me who,

3505
02:44:50.004 --> 02:44:52.031
I was praying for this guy to come to Jesus.

3506
02:44:52.132 --> 02:44:54.520
And, and I, and I said, who's this guy, man,

3507
02:44:54.560 --> 02:44:59.420
that he, most guys wouldn't do that, that are at big shots, you know, you know what I mean?

3508
02:44:59.741 --> 02:45:06.840
But he, he loved on my friend and my friend's life was saved because of, because of him loving him.

3509
02:45:07.522 --> 02:45:10.900
So all I did was call the church and I said, Hey, don't, I'm just want to leave a message.

3510
02:45:11.020 --> 02:45:15.860
Please give a message to your pastor that I want to thank you for, for changing the life of my

3511
02:45:16.000 --> 02:45:21.620
friend and nobody most time people don't thank you don't say thanks but i just want to say thanks

3512
02:45:21.640 --> 02:45:26.620
and they got my name then they looked me up and then we ended up here but um i'm just thankful

3513
02:45:26.740 --> 02:45:33.580
to see in these days we live in a man of god who's standing for truth by the way we'll do that

3514
02:45:33.660 --> 02:45:44.160
together thank you it's amazing in the moment um we're going to invite you to to meet jesus

3515
02:45:47.370 --> 02:45:50.180
but we were talking earlier about just the radical life

3516
02:45:50.382 --> 02:45:51.579
it is living for Christ

3517
02:45:53.178 --> 02:45:53.320
and

3518
02:45:56.651 --> 02:45:59.460
so not only is this an amazing moment

3519
02:45:59.581 --> 02:46:01.479
being with Rocky and you guys

3520
02:46:03.008 --> 02:46:04.174
but you know you want to

3521
02:46:06.988 --> 02:46:09.500
you've seen those movies or magazines or books

3522
02:46:09.601 --> 02:46:11.039
that say the day in the life of

3523
02:46:12.723 --> 02:46:16.250
the president, the day in the life of whatever.

3524
02:46:17.593 --> 02:46:21.100
And I was thinking this morning,

3525
02:46:21.420 --> 02:46:24.893
knowing that we'd get here tonight, the day in the life of being a Christian.

3526
02:46:24.913 --> 02:46:24.973
And

3527
02:46:29.886 --> 02:46:33.834
so we get to watch and see what God does with people.

3528
02:46:35.176 --> 02:46:37.040
And we don't have the time and we don't

3529
02:46:37.120 --> 02:46:43.580
have the capability, I say capability because I don't have the memory space right now, to

3530
02:46:43.640 --> 02:46:48.160
bring to your mind the great things God has done in all kinds of ways.

3531
02:46:49.221 --> 02:46:51.580
But I was talking about family earlier.

3532
02:46:52.081 --> 02:46:59.600
We were talking about how just one family in this church, for example, born and raised

3533
02:46:59.641 --> 02:47:00.220
in this church.

3534
02:47:00.641 --> 02:47:03.780
The kids were little kids here.

3535
02:47:05.828 --> 02:47:06.400
Same family.

3536
02:47:08.724 --> 02:47:15.680
produces a decorated U.S. Marine captain

3537
02:47:18.171 --> 02:47:20.280
and quite accomplished individual.

3538
02:47:23.203 --> 02:47:26.820
Same family produces a commander in the U.S. Navy.

3539
02:47:29.522 --> 02:47:33.880
That man went on to become a graduate

3540
02:47:33.940 --> 02:47:39.240
in the John Glenn astronaut program.

3541
02:47:41.166 --> 02:47:41.880
Getting all excited.

3542
02:47:42.363 --> 02:47:43.360
U.S. Navy test pilot.

3543
02:47:45.784 --> 02:47:47.240
Getting all excited about going to space.

3544
02:47:49.643 --> 02:47:51.540
And that young man who grew up in this church,

3545
02:47:51.641 --> 02:47:52.940
he was an Eagle Scout here,

3546
02:47:53.341 --> 02:47:55.559
gets a phone call from

3547
02:47:58.893 --> 02:48:00.620
the Department of War

3548
02:48:01.504 --> 02:48:04.700
and says, you need to report in, you need to do this,

3549
02:48:04.740 --> 02:48:06.359
you need to do this, and do the other thing

3550
02:48:07.606 --> 02:48:10.339
because the president needs a new pilot.

3551
02:48:12.561 --> 02:48:15.860
And you're going to be the pilot for the president.

3552
02:48:17.244 --> 02:48:18.220
These are kids that grew up here.

3553
02:48:18.541 --> 02:48:23.580
Then their baby sister, tenacious student,

3554
02:48:24.081 --> 02:48:24.840
she'll confess.

3555
02:48:24.980 --> 02:48:26.540
She said, I'm not a good student.

3556
02:48:26.640 --> 02:48:28.820
I just don't stop until I get the answer.

3557
02:48:31.484 --> 02:48:34.520
homeschooled here, went to Liberty University,

3558
02:48:35.121 --> 02:48:35.940
got her law degree,

3559
02:48:37.481 --> 02:48:40.520
went off to Regent University, postgraduate degree,

3560
02:48:42.521 --> 02:48:44.220
scooped up by the Department of Justice,

3561
02:48:44.460 --> 02:48:45.340
became a prosecutor.

3562
02:48:47.442 --> 02:48:48.539
And just this week,

3563
02:48:50.222 --> 02:48:53.880
I was brought on board President Trump's legal team

3564
02:48:54.507 --> 02:48:55.400
at the Department of Justice.

3565
02:48:55.620 --> 02:48:56.360
This is one family.

3566
02:49:00.902 --> 02:49:03.260
But that family, amazing.

3567
02:49:04.940 --> 02:49:10.140
So yesterday, it's been a difficult week to get study time in for things that had to happen.

3568
02:49:10.421 --> 02:49:11.640
And so I'm cramming.

3569
02:49:12.383 --> 02:49:13.640
Got up early yesterday morning.

3570
02:49:13.680 --> 02:49:14.880
I'm studying for today.

3571
02:49:16.412 --> 02:49:17.200
And I don't look at my phone.

3572
02:49:17.441 --> 02:49:18.600
I don't care if the Pope's calling.

3573
02:49:18.660 --> 02:49:19.479
I'm not going to answer it.

3574
02:49:19.841 --> 02:49:21.059
I'm not going to answer it.

3575
02:49:22.844 --> 02:49:24.160
So then my home phone's ringing.

3576
02:49:25.986 --> 02:49:26.740
And then I hear Lisa.

3577
02:49:26.880 --> 02:49:27.579
She picks it up.

3578
02:49:27.640 --> 02:49:28.479
Well, I'll tell them.

3579
02:49:29.706 --> 02:49:30.180
That's what I heard.

3580
02:49:30.282 --> 02:49:31.018
Well, I'll tell them.

3581
02:49:32.782 --> 02:49:34.920
So Lisa said, you need to call this.

3582
02:49:35.080 --> 02:49:36.200
I'm not going to say the person's name.

3583
02:49:36.500 --> 02:49:37.720
You're going to need to call this individual.

3584
02:49:39.166 --> 02:49:39.720
It's urgent.

3585
02:49:42.344 --> 02:49:43.318
And so, no.

3586
02:49:45.742 --> 02:49:49.080
So I call, and I just said, hello.

3587
02:49:50.084 --> 02:49:51.320
I'm really busy right now.

3588
02:49:51.400 --> 02:49:51.880
I'm studying.

3589
02:49:52.040 --> 02:49:53.259
Well, I'm really busy, too.

3590
02:49:55.504 --> 02:49:56.499
I've been trying to get a hold of you.

3591
02:49:58.590 --> 02:50:00.520
so Tulsi Gabbard

3592
02:50:02.230 --> 02:50:03.780
she just resigned because her husband

3593
02:50:04.452 --> 02:50:04.738
you know

3594
02:50:06.614 --> 02:50:07.219
needs her help

3595
02:50:08.653 --> 02:50:09.299
very very ill

3596
02:50:11.697 --> 02:50:12.060
and so

3597
02:50:13.050 --> 02:50:13.879
the phone call came

3598
02:50:15.234 --> 02:50:15.537
to me

3599
02:50:17.194 --> 02:50:17.598
who am I

3600
02:50:20.258 --> 02:50:20.399
and

3601
02:50:22.259 --> 02:50:22.400
well

3602
02:50:22.603 --> 02:50:23.760
Mark Wayne Mullen

3603
02:50:23.861 --> 02:50:25.819
the secretary for

3604
02:50:26.120 --> 02:50:27.043
Homeland Security.

3605
02:50:28.709 --> 02:50:30.755
So it turns out he watches our shows.

3606
02:50:30.916 --> 02:50:32.260
He watches our program, watches our

3607
02:50:32.300 --> 02:50:35.728
services, and watches our podcast.

3608
02:50:37.092 --> 02:50:40.460
And so again, at this moment, I can't name names, but I had a

3609
02:50:40.500 --> 02:50:44.930
podcast with someone recently, somebody that you guys would recognize.

3610
02:50:46.534 --> 02:50:49.080
And they said, you know this

3611
02:50:49.140 --> 02:50:49.642
person, right?

3612
02:50:49.662 --> 02:50:50.585
And I go, yeah.

3613
02:50:51.067 --> 02:50:53.074
Well, we need to talk to them immediately.

3614
02:50:54.097 --> 02:50:54.478
All right.

3615
02:50:54.639 --> 02:50:54.940
I'm thinking

3616
02:50:55.020 --> 02:50:56.024
this was a weird call.

3617
02:50:57.549 --> 02:51:00.740
Why would the Department of Homeland Security be calling me to talk to

3618
02:51:00.760 --> 02:51:01.341
this person?

3619
02:51:04.088 --> 02:51:06.594
And well, it was because of the podcast.

3620
02:51:07.476 --> 02:51:09.320
And with Tulsi Gabbard now stepping down,

3621
02:51:09.920 --> 02:51:12.692
Trump said, Trump, you cannot figure Trump.

3622
02:51:12.752 --> 02:51:13.817
Don't tell me he's bored again.

3623
02:51:13.857 --> 02:51:14.560
He's not bored again.

3624
02:51:15.422 --> 02:51:18.160
I'm telling you right now, but he is one weird duck.

3625
02:51:22.947 --> 02:51:32.440
and so trump says i want a born-again christian female woman at the helm

3626
02:51:33.884 --> 02:51:40.160
to be director of national intelligence and and so who are you going to call

3627
02:51:41.549 --> 02:51:43.140
they called calvary chapel chino hills

3628
02:51:45.230 --> 02:51:47.300
because one of our podcasts,

3629
02:51:49.969 --> 02:51:51.500
Mark Wang took it to Trump and said,

3630
02:51:51.600 --> 02:51:52.780
you need to watch this podcast.

3631
02:51:53.862 --> 02:51:56.980
Trump watched it and said, I want that person now.

3632
02:51:57.902 --> 02:51:59.640
This all happened, this happened yesterday

3633
02:52:01.053 --> 02:52:01.880
in two hours time.

3634
02:52:03.702 --> 02:52:06.040
And I went right back to studying.

3635
02:52:07.067 --> 02:52:07.719
You want to know why?

3636
02:52:07.984 --> 02:52:08.660
In my pajamas.

3637
02:52:09.183 --> 02:52:09.858
You want to know why?

3638
02:52:11.443 --> 02:52:12.140
It's being a Christian.

3639
02:52:14.183 --> 02:52:19.140
it's just being a Christian you sit there and I get it you sit there oh wow oh that's crazy

3640
02:52:19.401 --> 02:52:28.340
that's not crazy that's normal because you know what God is radical and to God radical is normal

3641
02:52:29.424 --> 02:52:33.860
and if the Christian church gets to the level if we crawl out of our hole and get to

3642
02:52:36.086 --> 02:52:40.660
normal you know normal is the first century church that's just normal that's not even

3643
02:52:40.740 --> 02:52:41.562
exceptional.

3644
02:52:42.585 --> 02:52:44.008
We need to get to normal.

3645
02:52:45.733 --> 02:52:48.540
But make yourself open to what God wants to do.

3646
02:52:48.960 --> 02:52:50.472
Why don't you, let's just pray right now.

3647
02:52:50.593 --> 02:52:51.420
Okay, let's just pray.

3648
02:52:51.741 --> 02:52:51.881
Yeah.

3649
02:52:53.205 --> 02:52:58.800
In fact, you know what, Rocky, you pray regarding them being used, and then I'll pray

3650
02:52:59.221 --> 02:53:02.332
for anyone who wants to make a decision.

3651
02:53:03.516 --> 02:53:03.978
Let's pray.

3652
02:53:03.998 --> 02:53:04.098
Lord,

3653
02:53:06.805 --> 02:53:10.380
we just are so thankful that your presence is here with us tonight, God.

3654
02:53:12.047 --> 02:53:14.880
I pray for every person that can hear my voice right now.

3655
02:53:17.062 --> 02:53:20.539
I pray that you would encourage them and strengthen them

3656
02:53:22.390 --> 02:53:24.220
and ignite a fire in them, Lord,

3657
02:53:25.961 --> 02:53:30.000
that they would burn with the oil of the Spirit, God,

3658
02:53:30.081 --> 02:53:31.900
just their lives.

3659
02:53:33.584 --> 02:53:35.960
You would place things on their heart,

3660
02:53:36.200 --> 02:53:37.220
give them opportunities,

3661
02:53:38.443 --> 02:53:41.151
encourage them in every area of their life.

3662
02:53:42.775 --> 02:53:44.380
I thank you for each and every one of them.

3663
02:53:44.400 --> 02:53:44.480
They

3664
02:53:44.480 --> 02:53:45.202
are special.

3665
02:53:45.343 --> 02:53:50.480
Each person here is fearfully and wonderfully made by the hand of God.

3666
02:53:51.863 --> 02:53:52.826
And that's precious.

3667
02:53:53.066 --> 02:53:55.612
You are precious in the sight of God.

3668
02:53:56.474 --> 02:53:58.800
So be encouraged today to not grow weary

3669
02:53:58.980 --> 02:54:04.816
in doing well, to keep fighting the good fight, to go forward in the name of Jesus.

3670
02:54:05.838 --> 02:54:06.460
For marriages,

3671
02:54:07.341 --> 02:54:10.720
for young people who are trying to make decisions

3672
02:54:10.981 --> 02:54:14.460
or relationships, jobs, whatever it is, God,

3673
02:54:14.882 --> 02:54:16.780
there's nothing too difficult for you, God.

3674
02:54:16.820 --> 02:54:17.818
You are all powerful.

3675
02:54:18.540 --> 02:54:20.420
So encourage them when they leave here, God,

3676
02:54:21.244 --> 02:54:22.520
that they would not be the same,

3677
02:54:22.600 --> 02:54:23.800
that you would transform them

3678
02:54:23.860 --> 02:54:26.060
in different areas of their life to challenge them.

3679
02:54:26.723 --> 02:54:28.300
No matter what age they are, God,

3680
02:54:29.341 --> 02:54:31.559
that they are here for such a time as this,

3681
02:54:32.161 --> 02:54:34.440
that we're called in this time in our world.

3682
02:54:35.844 --> 02:54:41.780
love on them and encourage them in the name of jesus lord i pray over each person here

3683
02:54:42.221 --> 02:54:48.840
and i'm thankful for the opportunity to be loved by these by this place continue to bless it god

3684
02:54:48.900 --> 02:54:55.740
and protect them from evil that tries to come we pray that hedge around this place god that god

3685
02:54:55.800 --> 02:55:00.980
the name of jesus would continue just like the billboard to resonate in this community and across

3686
02:55:01.101 --> 02:55:02.940
the world in the name of Jesus.

3687
02:55:03.220 --> 02:55:03.685
Lord, I pray.

3688
02:55:04.313 --> 02:55:04.920
Yes, Lord.

3689
02:55:05.000 --> 02:55:06.439
And I ask of you, Father, that

3690
02:55:08.597 --> 02:55:08.920
there'd be

3691
02:55:09.021 --> 02:55:10.920
inventory taken tonight by each

3692
02:55:10.960 --> 02:55:12.279
and every one of us that are here.

3693
02:55:15.303 --> 02:55:16.940
And Lord, that there might be those that are here

3694
02:55:17.001 --> 02:55:18.040
right now and they

3695
02:55:20.216 --> 02:55:20.780
have all

3696
02:55:20.921 --> 02:55:22.920
evening been ruling themselves out

3697
02:55:23.021 --> 02:55:24.800
of possibilities.

3698
02:55:26.146 --> 02:55:26.960
They just don't see

3699
02:55:27.041 --> 02:55:28.440
themselves being used by you.

3700
02:55:29.087 --> 02:55:30.240
They don't even see themselves

3701
02:55:30.404 --> 02:55:31.039
loved by you.

3702
02:55:33.664 --> 02:55:35.380
And I pray, Lord, that this evening

3703
02:55:37.692 --> 02:55:39.240
there would be a whole lot of people

3704
02:55:41.332 --> 02:55:42.740
that would determine right now

3705
02:55:42.881 --> 02:55:44.940
to let you love them.

3706
02:55:46.284 --> 02:55:47.820
That they would give you permission, Lord,

3707
02:55:47.962 --> 02:55:48.659
to love them.

3708
02:55:52.046 --> 02:55:53.019
That they might know that.

3709
02:55:53.842 --> 02:55:55.400
They might know what is the reality.

3710
02:55:55.761 --> 02:55:56.939
Your love is the reality.

3711
02:55:57.904 --> 02:55:58.919
But they've never let you in.

3712
02:56:00.784 --> 02:56:02.880
I pray that that would change in their lives tonight.

3713
02:56:04.842 --> 02:56:08.600
There are those maybe here that they believe that they're too broken.

3714
02:56:10.045 --> 02:56:11.180
There's too many scars.

3715
02:56:12.822 --> 02:56:16.340
There's too many marks.

3716
02:56:21.381 --> 02:56:27.940
And so they have removed themselves from your grace, so they think.

3717
02:56:30.843 --> 02:56:33.880
And Lord, I pray that you'd communicate to them

3718
02:56:34.041 --> 02:56:35.680
that the one who is forgiven much

3719
02:56:35.761 --> 02:56:36.899
is the one that loves much.

3720
02:56:39.045 --> 02:56:40.240
And then there are people here tonight

3721
02:56:40.300 --> 02:56:42.979
that have been taken advantage of

3722
02:56:43.261 --> 02:56:45.579
in how Satan has jumped upon their psyche

3723
02:56:45.841 --> 02:56:48.380
to blame them for their abuse.

3724
02:56:49.962 --> 02:56:53.560
A dirty trick by a mean enemy.

3725
02:56:55.102 --> 02:56:56.419
I pray that you'd break the chains

3726
02:56:56.642 --> 02:56:57.719
that are in their thought life.

3727
02:57:00.054 --> 02:57:01.140
God that you'd set them free

3728
02:57:01.281 --> 02:57:03.060
I pray for men and women

3729
02:57:03.162 --> 02:57:04.359
who are hooked on pornography

3730
02:57:06.916 --> 02:57:07.500
a demonic

3731
02:57:08.354 --> 02:57:08.660
portal

3732
02:57:10.955 --> 02:57:11.700
into the world

3733
02:57:11.862 --> 02:57:13.120
of spiritual bondage

3734
02:57:13.181 --> 02:57:14.459
that destroys the soul

3735
02:57:16.394 --> 02:57:17.240
and I pray Lord God

3736
02:57:17.280 --> 02:57:19.159
now in Jesus name that they would hate it

3737
02:57:20.572 --> 02:57:21.420
and that they would love you

3738
02:57:21.584 --> 02:57:22.137
more now

3739
02:57:24.033 --> 02:57:24.839
than self life

3740
02:57:27.198 --> 02:57:27.500
God that

3741
02:57:27.540 --> 02:57:29.780
they would stand free.

3742
02:57:31.623 --> 02:57:33.640
Lord, we pray tonight for those who are hearing

3743
02:57:33.741 --> 02:57:37.200
what was shared tonight by Rocky.

3744
02:57:37.640 --> 02:57:43.460
And for them, they have buckets and train loads

3745
02:57:43.661 --> 02:57:49.280
of regret and remorse because, as it were,

3746
02:57:49.380 --> 02:57:51.440
the summer has passed, the harvest has ended,

3747
02:57:51.581 --> 02:57:55.200
Jeremiah said, and we're not saved.

3748
02:57:58.485 --> 02:58:01.800
that tonight, Lord God, that there would be men and women in this place,

3749
02:58:02.040 --> 02:58:09.380
now elderly, profoundly grieved by how they didn't do it right.

3750
02:58:12.442 --> 02:58:16.200
Lord, I pray that you'd manifest your reconciliation power in their life.

3751
02:58:17.921 --> 02:58:21.340
You can take one phone call with one last breath

3752
02:58:23.192 --> 02:58:24.440
to say one final time,

3753
02:58:27.036 --> 02:58:27.660
I was sorry

3754
02:58:30.312 --> 02:58:31.438
and I ask you to forgive me

3755
02:58:34.812 --> 02:58:36.620
that can change the trajectory

3756
02:58:36.964 --> 02:58:38.300
of a son or a daughter

3757
02:58:39.275 --> 02:58:39.600
forever

3758
02:58:43.275 --> 02:58:44.560
and then father I pray

3759
02:58:44.701 --> 02:58:46.639
for those who have never said yes

3760
02:58:46.782 --> 02:58:47.439
to Jesus

3761
02:58:48.854 --> 02:58:49.259
right now

3762
02:58:53.952 --> 02:58:56.660
well your heads are bowed and your eyes are closed and right now

3763
02:58:59.991 --> 02:59:02.660
you're not sure that if you were to die tonight that you'd go to heaven

3764
02:59:02.720 --> 02:59:05.820
you don't understand that you don't even see how that's possible

3765
02:59:05.920 --> 02:59:11.400
and yet the bible is written and it says that these things have been written that you might

3766
02:59:11.641 --> 02:59:17.580
know that you have eternal life why would rocky and i enjoy

3767
02:59:19.488 --> 02:59:22.100
that beautiful gift of God in you not.

3768
02:59:23.247 --> 02:59:24.059
That wouldn't be right.

3769
02:59:25.441 --> 02:59:27.140
The only thing that keeps you from enjoying

3770
02:59:27.221 --> 02:59:29.220
that gift of God's salvation is you.

3771
02:59:31.122 --> 02:59:34.160
And I'm wondering if tonight you're willing to believe

3772
02:59:36.170 --> 02:59:38.000
that Jesus Christ, according to the Bible,

3773
02:59:38.120 --> 02:59:38.999
did die on the cross.

3774
02:59:41.906 --> 02:59:43.040
He did rise from the dead.

3775
02:59:45.485 --> 02:59:46.780
From Genesis to Revelation,

3776
02:59:47.064 --> 02:59:48.239
the Bible is about him.

3777
02:59:52.446 --> 02:59:53.459
And that in his death,

3778
02:59:56.086 --> 02:59:58.520
his word tells us that he paid our sin debt.

3779
03:00:00.703 --> 03:00:03.160
All the wrong that we've done against him,

3780
03:00:03.380 --> 03:00:05.979
against God, the law, all of it,

3781
03:00:06.703 --> 03:00:07.940
was all paid in Jesus.

3782
03:00:08.301 --> 03:00:09.099
He went there for you.

3783
03:00:10.145 --> 03:00:11.260
So you wouldn't have to go there.

3784
03:00:12.342 --> 03:00:13.220
He took your judgment.

3785
03:00:13.582 --> 03:00:16.220
He took hell upon himself

3786
03:00:16.342 --> 03:00:17.439
so you wouldn't have to go there.

3787
03:00:18.221 --> 03:00:20.840
And he's inviting you to come into his family.

3788
03:00:22.002 --> 03:00:23.940
I find it fantastic and wonderful

3789
03:00:24.847 --> 03:00:26.259
that the book of Romans tells us

3790
03:00:27.307 --> 03:00:28.880
that we've been adopted by God.

3791
03:00:30.261 --> 03:00:32.160
Will you allow yourself to be adopted tonight?

3792
03:00:32.782 --> 03:00:33.040
Yes.

3793
03:00:33.460 --> 03:00:35.820
Will you pray, Lord Jesus, forgive me of my sins

3794
03:00:36.444 --> 03:00:38.460
and come into my life and wash me clean?

3795
03:00:40.184 --> 03:00:41.860
I want to start my life all over again.

3796
03:00:41.962 --> 03:00:42.799
I want to be a new person.

3797
03:00:43.141 --> 03:00:44.720
I don't appreciate,

3798
03:00:45.708 --> 03:00:47.000
I don't even like who I am.

3799
03:00:48.783 --> 03:00:50.720
I want to be the person that you made me to be.

3800
03:00:51.081 --> 03:00:53.260
I don't want to be the person this world has made me to be.

3801
03:00:54.142 --> 03:00:56.420
I don't want to be the person that others have made me to be.

3802
03:00:56.480 --> 03:00:58.500
I don't even want to be the person I've made me to be.

3803
03:00:59.561 --> 03:01:02.620
I'm asking you, Lord God, to make me the person you've made me to be.

3804
03:01:05.082 --> 03:01:07.060
And I want to take my first risk with you, Jesus.

3805
03:01:07.240 --> 03:01:09.740
I want to step out and want to receive you.

3806
03:01:10.922 --> 03:01:13.780
And I want to be filled with your Holy Spirit.

3807
03:01:13.780 --> 03:01:14.819
and I want to have a new life.

3808
03:01:16.683 --> 03:01:17.818
Friend, if that's you right now tonight,

3809
03:01:18.100 --> 03:01:20.100
you can just tell God that in your own words

3810
03:01:20.221 --> 03:01:21.699
and you can say amen at the end.

3811
03:01:23.363 --> 03:01:25.020
But faithful is he who has called you.

3812
03:01:26.823 --> 03:01:28.760
If he's put that on your heart tonight,

3813
03:01:28.941 --> 03:01:31.100
it's because he's been calling you to do that.

3814
03:01:32.682 --> 03:01:35.400
Lord, we pray that you'd bless Rocky and Debbie

3815
03:01:35.481 --> 03:01:37.720
and the entire clan

3816
03:01:39.451 --> 03:01:40.699
and all of their doings,

3817
03:01:41.443 --> 03:01:43.040
the education, the work,

3818
03:01:44.474 --> 03:01:45.020
the hobbies

3819
03:01:48.275 --> 03:01:49.400
and Father we pray that

3820
03:01:52.076 --> 03:01:52.599
as they've been

3821
03:01:54.734 --> 03:01:55.640
a mom and a dad

3822
03:01:56.188 --> 03:01:56.859
to these kids

3823
03:01:58.836 --> 03:01:59.340
I pray that

3824
03:01:59.643 --> 03:02:00.757
the two of them would be

3825
03:02:02.716 --> 03:02:03.200
the catalyst

3826
03:02:04.491 --> 03:02:05.460
for a whole lot of

3827
03:02:05.541 --> 03:02:06.619
other people in America

3828
03:02:07.430 --> 03:02:08.179
if not the world

3829
03:02:09.590 --> 03:02:10.799
to be moms and dads too

3830
03:02:12.576 --> 03:02:12.939
that from

3831
03:02:13.381 --> 03:02:20.174
these two would come many more through us, through us all.

3832
03:02:21.276 --> 03:02:23.160
In Jesus' name and all God's people said,

3833
03:02:23.961 --> 03:02:24.282
amen.

3834
03:02:25.465 --> 03:02:26.909
I almost fell asleep doing that.

3835
03:02:26.990 --> 03:02:27.752
It's been a long day.

3836
03:02:29.236 --> 03:02:30.640
You guys give it up for Rocky

3837
03:02:31.182 --> 03:02:32.728
and this is awesome.

3838
03:02:33.512 --> 03:02:34.476
God bless you guys.

3839
03:02:34.797 --> 03:02:35.560
Have a great night.