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Welcome to Worldview Matters, discussing controversial issues, discerning current events, defending biblical Christianity. No topic, off limits. And now, here's your host, David Fiorazzo.

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Brothers and sisters, family in Christ, thank you so much for tuning in to another episode. We're praising God that we're just keeping this ball rolling here. It's like a machine now. I've got such a wonderful staff working behind the scenes on Worldview Matters. And you guys, God bless you for sharing the podcast, because I think it was, what did we say recently, 80,000 downloads a month? Or was that a week?

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A week, 80,000 downloads a week. And that's audio. Anyway, praise God for you guys and just him using this to hopefully inform, challenge, equip the body of Christ. Because we know that's lacking around the country in a lot, way too many churches. But anyway, going to talk about some things that I am really disappointed we have to keep hearing about.

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the injustices, and then we'll talk about technology and AI. But let's bring in our guest today, and you'll know where we're going. It's John Haller from Fellowship Bible Chapel in Ohio. You can look up him on YouTube and check his prophecy updates, Fellowship Bible Chapel on YouTube. And, brother, thanks for your time today and appreciate all your research. Good to see you. Good to be with you.

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Before we got on, John, I was marveling at the fact that you got these four other guests who have been on our podcast and yourself in one place. And you just talked about tech and other issues, the Prophecy Roundtable on technocracy, transhumanism. Scott Townsend, Britt Gillette, Patrick Wood, Pete Garcia, and yourself. My goodness. And you did it just in around two hours. Yeah.

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Well, about two hours and 20 minutes. And we've actually been doing it with that group. Sometimes David Bowen joins if somebody's unavailable or Tom Hughes. So we have five to six people just sit around chatting about these issues and how they touch on Bible prophecy for...

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two, two and a half hours. It's an interesting format, and we've been doing it for over two years now. Explain, before we got on the podcast, you explained the green room idea that you came up with, because you speak at a lot of conferences and how you decided to start doing this. I think that's actually very interesting, and I think it's very helpful to the body of Christ. Please explain that.

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Yeah, so you go to a conference and everybody has their canned talks. And if you do conferences with the same guys as I do, you know, maybe a couple times, three times a year, sometimes you've heard their talks. They've heard my talk. But the interesting talks, I think, are the ones that go on in the green room where the speakers go between speaking and hanging out with people at their book tables if they have one.

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And it's just, it's a very interesting conversation. And so my goal in the round tables that I've done, and I think other people, and I don't know if I'm the first one, but other people I see are doing a lot of round tables now too, where they get two, three, four, five people together to talk because you just, it's sort of,

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We have an outline, but it's really unscripted. And I think you get some insights that you might not get from somebody's talk that they give. So it was sort of my goal was to take that green room experience and put it out there on YouTube or whatever for everybody to watch.

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Okay. I think that's a great idea and I think it's very helpful. By the way, I think one of our first roundtables on technology, and I have a program called StreamYard that I use, and you can stream to multiple platforms. So it's on all my social media, and Britt Gillette streams, and Patrick Wooden and I think Scott stream it to their YouTube channels. But I think the first one we did got about 500,000 views total. Oh, my goodness. Wow. Wow.

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Well, that's a lot of people are getting the information, then they're not getting elsewhere. So that's a good thing. So let's jump into this, John. We weren't going to start with this, but because of what happened during COVID and how I believe a lot of Americans are just irate with Anthony Fauci.

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Dr. Fauci, his narcissism, his fame, how much money he made off of, I don't know, a lot of people died. So can we start with that and how frustrating it is for him to just plead the fifth and not have to answer any questions? Thanks to Rand Paul. Thank you, Josh Hawley and those who drilled him and just gave some of the information that a lot of people had forgotten about.

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Where do you want to start with this? Because, you know, you have background as a lawyer and you've seen this. But for Americans that want justice, I don't think we're going to get it. Go ahead and share your thoughts. So, yeah, I'm a lawyer and I fully support things like the Fifth Amendment to the United States Constitution, which gives everybody, even if people don't like them, the right to not just incriminate yourself, the right to remain silent.

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And Fauci. So it's kind of a it's a fairly complicated legal issue. Fauci was given a pardon, pretty broad pardon by Joe Biden or Joe Biden's auto pen. We're not sure about that. I don't know, by the way, I don't know if anybody challenged that in court, whether the court would come in and say that the pardon was invalid. Right.

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But he got a pardon. And under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution, the right you have to remain silent is if you have a reasonable fear of a prosecution. So the situation here is that Fauci cannot be prosecuted for any federal crimes because he has a pardon. And it's pretty broad. I

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looked up the terms of it. So the question is, then why does he get to invoke the right, the Fifth Amendment right to remain silent and not answer questions? So he shows up at the at the hearing chaired by Senator Rand Paul from Kentucky the other day, and he has like six lawyers in tow. And one of them actually sits at the table with him where he's not supposed to be.

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And he takes the Fifth Amendment on every single question, I think 111 times or something. And so you went through and you could see the questions that people had. And I think you learn a lot about what happened during the...

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the COVID pandemic and Fauci's role because the questioners had access to, and I don't know, I, I don't know that they got this by a hook or crook or anything like that. I think they probably subpoenaed his personal diary and his personal diary is at very significant odds with what he said publicly and,

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during COVID and all of the lockdowns and that sort of thing. So he actually, so what he was telling us was different than what he did in private. And RFK Jr., by the way, the secretary of,

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Health and Human Services, I think that's what he is, came out yesterday and said that actually after Fauci got his vaccine, he actually had a myocardial and he had a heart attack, a myocardial infarction a month or so later.

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which was one of the side effects. So here's a guy who had the actual side effect, who was denying that any of these side effects were valid that people were having. So, and there were many other things in that diary that were at odds. I mean, there were, I think some things early on where he said that,

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something to the effect that it didn't really come from a wet market. It might have got a boost in the wet market, but it came from a lab. And so he clearly lied during that. Now, a couple of things to say. So he has the right to invoke the Fifth Amendment. That's fine. He has the pardon. There are two things, though. One, when you invoke the right to remain silent, that means you need to shut up.

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You don't get to go into the Senate hearing and make this public statement that he read from attacking Rand Paul and that type of thing for libeling or slandering him and then say and then wrap yourself in the Fifth Amendment after you've made a public statement. That's that's very inconsistent. So at some point in the hearing, the lawyer kept talking and that's.

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That's a big no-no. This is an official quasi-judicial proceeding where the witnesses are sworn to tell the truth, and the lawyers aren't allowed to coach their witnesses. I mean, I did, I don't know how many thousands of depositions in my career as a lawyer and courtroom hearings and that type of thing.

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you don't get to coach your witness. That is verboten. And that's what the lawyer was doing. And so finally, Rand Paul just said, had the, uh, Sergeant at arms, uh,

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at the hearing there just took the guy out of the room to the applause of a whole bunch of people. I think I saw Laura Ingram and some other people sitting in the gallery and the guy, he said, go sit there. And where we told you to sit, you're not even sitting where he wouldn't. And amazingly, the lawyer didn't listen to him. So that's, but if you did that in a courtroom, that would be, you, you would be in contempt in about 20 seconds and almost every courtroom in America. Yeah.

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So it was inconsistent that he pled the fifth, but he made a big public statement before. And this is still an issue, David. For example, in Ohio, we have Vivek Ramaswani running as a Republican, and we have Amy Alcott running as a Democrat for governor election in November.

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And Amy is, she was the director of the Ohio Department of Health, who pushed everything that Fauci said on people in Ohio. And maybe one of the worst, because she was like at the leading cutting edge of this. And now she's running for governor. Like, why was this great protector of the health of Ohioans? So this is still a big issue all these years later.

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It is. And a lot of us have been affected by it. A lot of us or our loved ones were affected by it. And it really is astounding to me. And we'll see what happens. What do you see coming down the road, John? What's going to happen, if anything, to Dr. Fauci?

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Well, by the way, so if you have immunity because of the pardon, you should be answering questions. However, he could make an argument that, well, I could be prosecuted by a very publicly conscious of the problems with how the COVID pandemic was handled and my role in that.

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I could be prosecuted in, say, Florida or Ohio or some other state. So because he's subject to being prosecuted under state law, Biden's pardon can only pardon him for federal violations. He could still be prosecuted. So he probably still could invoke the Fifth Amendment right. But again, it's entirely inconsistent that he made this huge, this rather large,

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and aggressive public statement beforehand. But then he says, well, you can't question me about that. It's just that's not the way it works. So if you let's just say if you went into a court trial, a criminal trial, you're a defendant in a criminal case, you don't get up in front of the jury and get to make a statement and then say when they want to call you to testify that I have a right to remain silent. You do have a right to remain silent if you keep silent.

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That's right. If you can't keep your big trap shut, then you don't really you don't have the right to say that with respect to the things that you've brought up in your public statement. That's that's pretty well said a lot. Now, whether anyone will ever do anything about it, I don't know. I don't see the pardon being I don't think the pardon is going to be challenged. I don't think the pardon is. Yeah.

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is I just, I think the pardon is going to stand. And the other question people ask, because I know my wife asks as well, he was never charged with a crime. How can he be pardoned? But the pardon is sort of a prophylactic thing to protect you from being prosecuted, as well as if you have been prosecuted. So there doesn't have to be a prosecution before the pardon would be effective.

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Well, most of us believe, in my opinion and opinion of a lot of people, that there's a lot of blood on his hands. And he's a criminal, but he sure did get rich off of it, off of COVID. But let's move on, John. By the way, you had six lawyers there yesterday. You don't do that unless you got some coin in the background. And the other thing, too, is any prosecution would take years, and he is 85 years old already.

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All right, friends, let's talk about some other things that are going on that we wanted to cover today. AI and warfare, drones. One thing you sent me, John, drones are coming and we're not ready. I don't think we're ready for a lot of things, but AI and the mark of the beast, this is very interesting that there is a connection, right? So where do you want to start with this? We're already zooming through here.

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Yeah, so I think I would start with a statement that Patrick Wood, who I know you've had on your program and who was on our roundtable the other day, said a number of years ago. He said, you know, we look at Bible prophecy and we get to Revelation chapter 13 and we read about this mark of the beast, this mark of the beast that's going to be instituted by the false prophet and antichrist. And Patrick made, I think this was one of the wisest things I've ever heard somebody say. Patrick said, look...

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When we get to that point in the end times where this is actually happening, it happens around the middle of the 70th week.

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The Antichrist and false prophet don't sit down and have a meeting and say, hey, you know, we need to crowdfund and raise money to institute this mark of the beast. We need to develop the technology for that. It will be, and I think Dr. Naomi Wolf and some of her comments during the COVID pandemic, and she was talking about the Chinese social credit system and how it was being implemented. And it's it's it's.

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It's implemented on steroids now. It's here. It's never going away until the Lord returns. We just need to learn how to fight aspects of it and to deal with it because these people are not backing off. And Patrick's point was they're not going to sit down and say we need to develop something to control humanity and what they can buy and sell.

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They're just the system will be there and they'll just flip the switch. And so I think we're at the point where this thing is being put together to just flip the switch. So, yeah, I think a lot of us saw this coming, didn't know how it would play out or how we would get here. But with AI and with all the things we're seeing now, there are a lot of red flags. So talk about Sam Altman.

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And what he's been saying recently, because I think there's some pretty provocative statements. Yeah. Well, you know, the interesting thing is when you look at it and listen, whether we like Trump or not, we got to admit Trump is knee deep in this thing with the development of technology. He sees it as a way to economic prosperity. And it may very well be. But if you remember the scene at his inauguration, all of the tech bros, Zuckerberg, Musk, Musk.

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Jeff Bezos, the guy from Google. I mean, we're like a trillion dollars of net worth sitting there in the front row at his inauguration. And starting with the day of his inauguration and continuing until just recently, some things he put in place, executive orders on quantum computing. He's been very much behind this. And he's also developed something called Pax Silica.

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And we know that there's this thing called Silicon Valley. They use silicon. And now that we have a PAX silica program that he's put in place, he has a guy at the State Department who heads it up. I can't remember his name right off the top of my head. But he is...