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In a world of challenging meaning, where a lot of my viewers are struggling with meaning, one of the things I've noticed is that it appears, especially with young men who you talked about earlier, it appears that more and more of them are turning to religion.

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And you mentioned your faith in God there.

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It's a really interesting phenomenon for me that I've observed in my own life.

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I've talked about this a few times.

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Certain friends of mine who were very individualistic, they were living the dream in any way that you might define it, you know,

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They had money, they had freedom, they had no boss, no dependents, no partner.

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And suddenly you see their life turn into what looks like depression, a form of depression.

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An absence of meaning in their lives.

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And I wanted just to throw this out there because we are in a society that's, I think, increasingly encouraging independence.

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And there's upsides to independence, of course, we all understand those.

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But I wondered if there's a sort of a double-edged sword here when we're

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where you kind of said earlier about making the world more about just me, me, me, and I.

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And in a world of abundance, I imagine many more people are going to choose to make it about I, I, I, I, I.

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Because I can.

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I could put a headset on, but theoretically never leave my house.

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Someone could literally put a robot puts the food in my mouth.

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I could have some sex robot that just gets me off.

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Money comes in my account by UBI.

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Yeah.

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The reason your friends got depressed – I've had this happen.

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I've seen this as well.

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Most of my friends are older than I am.

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Usually for some reason I gravitated to men that were 18, 20 years my senior who were brilliant and learning from them and seeing where they were going in their life and so forth.

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But I watched some of them like sell their company and make a billion two.

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And then they were happy for like a month maybe and they'd call me, let's go do this, go do that.

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And I'd try to go with them some – but I got –

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You know, I got a lot of companies, got a lot of kids, I got a lot of things, right?

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And it's like, and eventually they all want to get back in the game because we have six human needs.

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Certainty, uncertainty, because think about this.

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If you were certain every moment of your life, you know what someone's going to say, and I'm sure you've had this somewhat.

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You know what they're going to say before they're going to say it.

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But if you knew what someone's saved for, they're going to say, you know what's going to happen for, what's going to happen every moment of every day.

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In the beginning, it'd be cool.

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But after a while, what would you feel?

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Bored.

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Out of your mind bored.

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So God, in her infinite wisdom, gave us uncertainty.

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We need variety.

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We need surprise.

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So I ask people, you're going to state in 15,000 people, and I say, how many of you love surprises?

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And everybody raised their hand, yay.

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And I go, bullshit.

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You love the surprises you want, right?

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The surprise you don't want, you call problems, but we need those too, right?

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Third need is significance.

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They need to feel unique.

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You need to feel special.

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They need to feel important.

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Who do you think has that need?

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All of us.

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Everyone.

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Yeah.

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Now, some people, like Donald Trump, it's pretty obvious, right?

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And some people, though, it's like, I don't want significance.

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I don't want to be special.

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That's only because they feel if they get special, they'll get attacked.

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Some people do it by earrings.

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Some people buy tattoos in certain areas.

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Some buy knowing box scores about a sport more than anybody else.

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Some people buy their art.

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Some people buy their way they dress.

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Some people buy their money.

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Some people buy their money.

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Some people buy their way.

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Everyone finds a way.

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Okay?

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However, some people do it through violence.

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Okay?

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So let me give you another seed.

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Why has violence always been with us?

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If I feel I'm insignificant, and this is, by the way, even more powerful in most men's cases because of the nature of testosterone, right?

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Testosterone is about significance.

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It's about being dominant, right?

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So if I'm in a community and I'm driving by or I'm walking by this community and it's a tough community, a tough environment, somebody comes up, puts a gun to my head.

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I've never met him in my life.

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Why?

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Well, first of all, how certain do you think that person is you're gonna respond when they put a gun to your head?

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Before, you may not have paid attention to them, but you're gonna pay attention now.

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How significant are they in your life on a zero to 10 scale with that gun to your head?

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They're the most significant thing on earth.

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And by the way, every time it's a little different, they give variety.

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Anytime you meet a belief, an emotion, or a behavior meets at least three of these six needs, you will become addicted to that thought, that feeling, or that behavior.

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It could be a positive one or a negative one, but you will become addicted to it.

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So violence connects to those three, but you can also get significance by tearing other people down.

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So why do we have so many warriors in their little house, you know, doing their little virtual signaling, doing what they're doing?

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Because they've never done anything with their life.

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And it used to be I'd have to confront you.

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Now I don't confront you.

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I don't even know who I am.

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I can say all this terrible shit, and I'm sitting in my place and make my seal feel significant because I make you smaller, I'm bigger.

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It's why social media is so terrible.

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There's great things in social media.

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It's what's so terrible about it.

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It's like people now can meet their need for significance without much effort.

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No consequence.

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You come and say this directly to me, you're going to pay a price of some sort, right?

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That's no longer there.

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Now, fourth need, connection and love.

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Everybody wants love.

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Most people settle for connection because they've had love at one point.

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It was so painful when it ended, they decided to settle for connection.

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How can you get it?

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You can get it by going for a run and feeling connected to God of the universe, nature.

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You can get it by prayer.

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You can get it by being with some friends.

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You can get it by making love.

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You can get it by getting a dog.

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If nothing else, get a dog.

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Don't get a cat.

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Cats leave.

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But, you know, dogs, you leave for two minutes.

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It's like you've been gone for six months.

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They'll make you feel very loved.

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There's a million ways to feel connection and love.

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Some are positive.

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Some are negative.

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Some people get connected by their problems.

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They're always comparing problems.

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You ever seen two people comparing, but I have this.

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Well, you think that's bad.

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Let me tell you mine.

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They're arguing over significance and they're connecting through their problems.

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Right?

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So the biggest drug on earth is not cocaine.

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It's not fentanyl.

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It's not dope.

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It's problems.

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Because the deepest fear everybody has is they're not enough.

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And our deeper fear is if we're not enough, we won't be loved.

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I've never met a human being.

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I've worked with kings, queens, doctors.

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winners of everything in Imagine Academy Awards, scientists, scientists,

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There's some point in which you might feel for someone you care about most that you're not smart enough, young enough, old enough, pretty enough, funny enough, rich enough, playful enough, something enough.

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And it is the worst feeling on earth.

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To feel like you are unloved and worthless is internal death.

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So people come up with a story.

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It's just because I have, you know, I have this dyslexia.

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That's why.

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Or it's because I was raped and maybe they really were raped.

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I'd like to kill the guy that hurt them.

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But that's not why they're feeling what they're feeling right now.

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It's because they're fearful.

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And so if you have a big problem, that's why I'm not where I want to be.

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It's not that I'm not enough and not worthy of love.

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And so people use problems as a way to connect.

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Now, these first four needs, certainty, uncertainty, you can see how they'd have a conflict.

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But have you ever rented a movie you've already watched?

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Yeah.

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Get a life.

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I have two.

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Why would we do that?

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Because we're certain it's good, but it's been long enough that we hope it's been – there's a variety.

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We won't remember it all.

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I'll have a variety once again.

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Yeah.

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So you can meet multiple needs through the same task potentially.

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But certainty, uncertainty, significance, here you are in Hollywood.

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Why do people come to Hollywood?

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Be famous.

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Be famous, right?

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They don't know what that really is.

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If they did, some of them would move away from it.

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But significance is what they're looking for.

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But what they really want is love.

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That's what everybody wants.

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But you know what the problem is?

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They think if they're significant, everybody's going to love them.

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And I get these clients, without mentioning any names, the biggest names in Hollywood, the biggest names in sports.

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And you know what their number one thing is?

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They're angry.

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Why are they angry?

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Because they thought if I'm significant, everybody loved me.

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And now they go, people rip me online.

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They interrupt me with my family trying to have dinner.

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They don't give a shit about me.

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They just want a picture.

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They just want this.

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And if I don't do it, they write that about me.

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They care about themselves.

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They care about themselves.

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And so what happened is I thought by being significant, I would be loved.

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And now I'm super significant and I'm not loved.

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I'm attacked.

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Because the more you try and push your significance on someone, the less significant they make you.

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If you love someone, there's nothing more significant than that.

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True love, not a trade.

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Not I'll love you if you give me something.

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Genuine love.

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And if that happens, you become significant in people's lives.

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But that's the number one challenge in this community.

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So significance love have attack.

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If you're significant, you're the individual.

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But I need to be connected.

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Well, if I'm so connected, who am I?

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And that's the pull.

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The secret to it all are the final two needs.

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These are the spiritual needs.

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Not religious, but spiritual.

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And that is we all must grow.

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When you grow, you feel alive.

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And if you don't grow, you start to die inside.

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And this isn't my rule.

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Everything in the universe grows or dies, as you well know.

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This is the law of the universe.

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If your relationship's not growing, it's dying.

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Don't bullshit yourself.

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If your business is not growing, you're a businessman, you know.

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It is not growing.

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It is dying.

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You better do something now, right?

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But we grow so we have something finally to give, which is where meaning comes in life.

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When I grow, I have something more to give.

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And if I can give that to someone, then my life is more meaningful than just the pleasure of, I have the machine that makes me feel pleasure in certain parts of my body and feeds me and all the things you talked about.

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If you went to Vegas,

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And you pull down that little jukebox thing, and you get boom, boom, boom, bars, bars, bars.

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What's your reaction?

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Amazing.

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Amazing.

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And you pull it a second time, and you get it again.

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Amazing.

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And you do it a third time, and you get it again.

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That's amazing.

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And now you do it 100 times.

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Yeah, that's amazing.

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And now what you have is a job.

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You do this, and you've got a predictable outcome.

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The fact that you don't know what the outcome is, that's the jackpot in it.

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They get someone hooked on anything.

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That's what makes it significant, because it's scarce, right?

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So when you do this, if I said to you, Osama bin Laden—

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What would you say is top need driving force?

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Was it certainty?

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Was it variety?

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Was it significance?

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Was it love?

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Was it growth or contribution?

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I'd say probably significance.

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100%.

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He was one of, I forget the number, 27 children.

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Literally, he was 27 children.

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He was a nobody.

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He took his dad's money.

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He was not very religious.

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And he went to Afghanistan and he used his money and became significant.

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Not by shooting people.

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He provided resources.

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And then all of a sudden his entire life changed.

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How do you know?

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The most significant thing is he sent other people to die.

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He didn't go to die.

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He sent other people.

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Now, his number one drive is significance and his way of doing it was get other people to die.

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On that same day, 9-11—

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There were men and women in the fire department, police department, who went into those buildings knowing a good chance they would die to save a stranger.

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Also driven by significance, but with different rules.

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If I die a hero, my life is meaningful.

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And that's a meaningful life.

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So people can even have the same need structure, but their beliefs about how to meet those needs are the most important thing.

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And the needs of connection and love, growth and contribution have no downside.

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Certainty make – if you have certainty as your number one thing, you're always trying to keep life the same way and you're going to be stressed out.

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Especially with AI, you're going to be really stressed out.

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If you're a variety person, you can have a lot of fun.

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But eventually, not much variety.

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The life you described for all these people, now they have the money, they have the sex, they have this, they have that, they have the woman, they have the notoriety, they have the Academy Award.

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It all gets old because if we're not growing, it doesn't matter.

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How many people do you know that were famous, who were rich, who had supposedly everything people want and took their own life?

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Why did they take their life?

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They stopped growing and stopped having a sense of meaning by giving.

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Right?

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I can show you example after example of people.

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So these need structures in the new world have to be met.

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We can meet certainty right now very easily by going online and controlling our communication.

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That's why people text.

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That's much easier than communicating back and forth with someone, right?

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We can get variety by going online so easily now.

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We can get significance, tear other people down, or work on something significant, we think, right?

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AI, explore the world.

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We can get a sense of connection through people online or through a robot.

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These days, people have an AI, and they talk to it like it's their boyfriend or girlfriend because it totally affirms them.

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They say something idiotic, and they tell you, you're so smart.

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Right?

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You're better, right?

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But you're missing growing and contributing.

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If you're missing growing and contributing, you will not feel fulfilled.

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You, as a person, if I read your books correctly and I didn't read them all, but I thought pieces of it, probably the best lesson you got early in life was there's the science of achievement and there's the art of fulfillment.

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They're two different skills.

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If you want an extraordinary life, you need both.

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You go to the East, they're really great about fulfillment.

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They can live in poverty and feel totally happy and connected to God or the universe.

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You come here and people can have an incredible external life, but their internal life often not so nice.

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They get really pissed off because they didn't get their special sauce on their burger, right?

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It's a different world.

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I believe you can merge those two.

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How?

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You master the science of achievement.

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There are rules to achieve, as you well know.

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You wrote an old book with 33 rules in it.

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Me too, right?

299
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So I know those rules.

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I know books on finance, three of them.

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I want an answer.

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Is it still possible to win the financial game?

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Because so many young people think it can't be done.

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So I interviewed 50 of the greatest financial people alive today.

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All started with nothing.

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All billionaires.

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Nobody from the Lucky Sperm Club.

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They all did it on their own.

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Ray Dalio, Carl Icahn, Warren Buffett, all of them.

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And guess what I found?

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They're all different, but I'm a modeler.

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I found the strategies that are common between them, and I applied them.

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I taught other people, wrote the books, but I applied them myself.

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And that's how my businesses and my life grew geometrically.

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I modeled.

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I didn't have to learn on my own experience.

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You follow?

318
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I've got to ask you some questions on those two points.

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So on these six needs, because I also want to ask you about the 50 rich people that you've interviewed for the books.

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But on those six needs, when you look at someone like me and you look at the broad world that I'm heading towards as a 30-year-old man, what configuration of these needs are?

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Well, I'll tell you what creates all the pain first.

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Okay, please.

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So if I go to a room and I'll say, I explain these needs like I have.

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I know this is kind of a lecture here.

325
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I didn't mean to be that, but I just want to share because I'm so passionate about it.

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And I'll get people to understand what they are.

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And then I ask them, I want you to write down what you think your top two needs have been, not in what you want, but in the way you've been living.

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Because people might want love, but they think they have to be significant before they can get it.

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Or they might want love, but they want certainty that love will never go away.

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You follow me?

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And so that modifies things.

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And I'll say, so the way you've lived, the way you've lived, what would have been the top two?

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And then I say, I want you to write a paragraph about what's the downside of having that one so high on your list.

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And it's amazing.

335
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So then I say, now write what you think your list top two should be to go to the next level of your life.

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Okay?

337
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Let's have that you do that.

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What do you think your top two means?

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I see you're doing it already, which I love.

340
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I love how active you are.

341
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So what would you say your top two have been up until now?

342
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I think if I'm being completely honest.

343
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Yes.

344
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And by the way, I want to thank you because I watched several of your pieces, and you are.

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You're not bullshitting about it.

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I'm going to die someday.

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So there's no, even if being honest makes me look bad, it's like, who cares?

348
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My, of course, like significance, of course.

349
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Yes.

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Especially from where I,

351
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you know, where I came from.

352
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Yeah.

353
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That was the big problem was, you know, being different and not in a good way.

354
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That's right.

355
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And then I would say, interestingly, it feels like uncertainty and significance are really, really high for me because I've, for some reason, I have a huge appetite for uncertainty.

356
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Yeah, you're wired that way in a beautiful way.

357
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It also leads to learning for you.

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That's one of your vehicles for learning, is it not?

359
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Yeah.

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Dropping out of school, stopping going to school when I was younger, dropping out of university, quitting jobs where I shouldn't have quit them after a month.

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Which, by the way, if certainty was your top need, would you have done that?

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No.

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No.

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No.

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Completely.

366
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So you understand, I'm talking about the six controlling forces of your life.

367
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There's a million stories about your life, but there's only six reasons you do anything.

368
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You have all these stories with reasons.

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So what would you say would be the downside of that?

370
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By the way, there have been upsides, right?

371
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

372
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Yeah, great.

373
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Yeah, yeah.

374
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We're sitting here because of the upsides.

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Your desire for significance made you look for significant ideas, significant application, succeed in business.

376
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Oh, the downsides of wanting significance is… At the top.

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Because it's valuable.

378
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Significance is valuable, period.

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Everyone should want it.

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But it's the sequence.

381
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So if it's the top of your list, what's the downside?

382
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For me, it costs me connection and love and some of these other opportunities.

383
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That's correct.

384
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Which is what you really want underneath it all.

385
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Yeah.

386
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Your desire for significance really came from the fact that you were not loved and connected by people.

387
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People judge you the color of your skin.

388
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They put you in a community where you were different.

389
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You were outside the— So it's like—

390
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I'll show them.

391
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

392
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Right?

393
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Which, by the way, is a very healthy response, right?

394
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But now at this stage of your life, this is the gift that you have now at this stage of your life, right?

395
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You're entering this second season, right?

396
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Yeah.

397
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Now you don't have to be driven by that anymore.

398
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You already are significant.

399
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Like what more are you going to do that's not significant?

400
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I'm sure you'll find more significant things to do, but you've done so many significant things.

401
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You've helped millions of people, I'm sure, through your insights, your elements.

402
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You've written books.

403
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You've built businesses.

404
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And you're only 33 years old.

405
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It's pretty effing awesome, right?

406
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So now you get the leisure of being able to sit back and say, now with a greater level of consciousness, what would ideally be my top two?

407
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What would you say your top two need to be to have the next level of your life, to go to the next level for you?

408
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It's really easy for me to answer this question.

409
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Connection and love and the need to grow and give.

410
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Yes, yes.

411
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Yeah, well, those are two different ones.

412
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Contribution, growth and contribution.

413
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Of those two, which one do you think is even more important for you?

414
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Oh, God, of those two.

415
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Yeah.

416
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It's hard because one you can see as a vehicle to the other.

417
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Yeah, exactly.

418
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I understand that, but I'm asking a different question.

419
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I'm saying, which is more important to feel, experience?

420
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It would be contribution.

421
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Yes.

422
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So for you, you're saying love and contribution?

423
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Yes.

424
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I'm saying love and contribution.

425
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In what order?

426
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Love first and then contribution.

427
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It's a good choice.

428
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In my head, I tried the other way around, and I thought, no.

429
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It's almost like monks have said to me many years ago that you need to fill up your cup so you have something to pour out for others.

430
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Yes.

431
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And that's what I was thinking.

432
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I was thinking it doesn't work the other way around.

433
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That was a wise choice.

434
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Most people wouldn't make that choice.

435
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I, for most of my life, was contribution first and then love.

436
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It was my way of earning love.

437
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And so, like, I'd be on stage for 13 hours, and this is before people had phones, and everybody wants to sign something and give me a hug.

438
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I work my guts out, and then that was my take-it-in time.

439
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So I'd be there, finish at 1.30 or 2 in the morning, and I'd be there till 3.30, till every person had an autograph, got their hug and everything else.

440
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Now his picture is a lot faster.

441
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But that was my life.

442
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I met my wife, Sage, changed my entire life.

443
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She didn't care that I was Tony Robbins.

444
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She just loved me.

445
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And all of a sudden, I never thought 12,000, 15,000, 20,000 people of love pouring at you could compare, one person could compare, but way beyond that.

446
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So now I finish it.

447
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I'm going to give my guts.

448
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I go to one in the morning, but then I get up and I leave.

449
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I take pictures in the middle of the day, but then I leave at that time.

450
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I go and be with my wife.

451
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And it switched where love was there because think about this.

452
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If contribution is first, and this is what a lot of people do.

453
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then it's a way to protect yourself from feeling rejected.

454
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Because if I'm always giving to you truly generously over beyond what you can imagine, and then you treat me like shit, well, then you're clearly the problem, right?

455
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I don't have to think I'm not enough.

456
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But the more honest way is love, because if it's love first, now I'm giving because I want to, not because I have to.

457
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Does that make sense?

458
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So tell me how you think that would change your life if you made love and contribution your top two and the way you actually live.

459
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Because you already value love and contribution, but if they were the highest priority, how would it shift your life for the better in your mind?

460
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I feel like I would be significantly less stressed.

461
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You are correct.

462
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You are absolutely correct.

463
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So when I ask the audience this, I have them write down, and I've got 15,000 people.

464
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And I'll say, okay, how many have certainty on your list?

465
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And they've come to an event that has a firewalk.

466
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Right.

467
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And you get like 50, 60 percent of the rooms on the top in their top two of their list.

468
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Right.

469
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Because it's in our culture.

470
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It's still the most important one.

471
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It's the foundational.

472
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It's the one that's going to have the biggest problem with AI because they want things to stay the same.

473
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And life isn't.

474
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The only thing that's for certain is change.

475
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And now rapid change, like geometrically rapid change.

476
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Okay, variety, small number, significance through the roof.

477
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Social media has made significance disproportionate in our culture, and that's why people are so unhappy.

478
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You used to maybe compare most yourself to your neighbors or your friends.

479
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Now you compare yourself to a billionaire, of which there's only 3,000.

480
00:20:32.033 --> 00:20:32.233
Right.

481
00:20:32.534 --> 00:20:34.557
And so you're like, my life's not that great anymore.

482
00:20:34.677 --> 00:20:36.980
Or you compare it to pictures that have been doctored.

483
00:20:37.461 --> 00:20:39.624
A friend of mine owns a gym and he says, so you can't believe it.

484
00:20:40.005 --> 00:20:42.569
Women and men come in here who are influencers.

485
00:20:43.109 --> 00:20:46.775
They lay everything out and then they do their video and they never work out.

486
00:20:47.075 --> 00:20:47.815
They're 27 years old.

487
00:20:47.835 --> 00:20:49.236
They don't have to work out for shit.

488
00:20:49.276 --> 00:20:50.716
I mean, it's like they do a minimum workout.

489
00:20:50.736 --> 00:20:51.337
They got jeans.

490
00:20:51.357 --> 00:20:52.217
They're just fine.

491
00:20:52.417 --> 00:20:53.617
They don't even do the workout.

492
00:20:54.018 --> 00:20:54.758
It's all pictures.

493
00:20:54.818 --> 00:20:56.118
It's all bullshit, right?

494
00:20:56.519 --> 00:21:00.200
You know, he goes, it makes me so mad because, you know, real people, they're working hard to make something happen.

495
00:21:00.520 --> 00:21:06.362
So that's why people get so, women especially, depressed, comparing themselves to images that are not even real, right?

496
00:21:06.442 --> 00:21:07.443
It's totally absurd.

497
00:21:07.943 --> 00:21:12.244
So when I do it with the audience, though, certainty and significance is 80% of the room.

498
00:21:13.805 --> 00:21:13.985
Right.

499
00:21:14.185 --> 00:21:15.867
There's growth people, contribution people.

500
00:21:15.887 --> 00:21:20.890
But that's the dominant force because of our cultural conditioning and because certainty is basically a survival tool.

501
00:21:21.631 --> 00:21:22.972
Then I've asked them to do what you did.

502
00:21:23.432 --> 00:21:24.753
And I say, OK, tell me.

503
00:21:24.793 --> 00:21:26.675
I don't tell them anything like I didn't tell you anything.

504
00:21:27.155 --> 00:21:29.537
And then I say, OK, who has certainty on their list now?

505
00:21:30.157 --> 00:21:33.319
And in a room of 15,000 people, 12,000 people, there might be like five.

506
00:21:33.359 --> 00:21:35.841
OK, there's five people that really don't like pain.

507
00:21:35.861 --> 00:21:37.803
So I point that out to them and they look at me.

508
00:21:38.223 --> 00:21:39.944
And then I go, okay, how many you got?

509
00:21:39.964 --> 00:21:40.864
You know, variety.

510
00:21:40.884 --> 00:21:41.625
It'll be more variety.

511
00:21:41.945 --> 00:21:42.906
How many got significance?

512
00:21:42.926 --> 00:21:45.467
The number plummets just like it did with you.

513
00:21:45.827 --> 00:21:47.088
People, I didn't tell them anything.

514
00:21:47.108 --> 00:21:49.009
Their own intelligence knows this, right?

515
00:21:49.469 --> 00:21:50.109
How many got love?

516
00:21:50.430 --> 00:21:51.270
Through the roof, right?

517
00:21:51.370 --> 00:21:52.471
Contribution through the roof.

518
00:21:52.591 --> 00:21:53.311
Growth through the roof.

519
00:21:53.631 --> 00:21:54.892
Those are the ones that expand.

520
00:21:55.272 --> 00:21:58.194
And then we show people how to condition that though because it's one thing to know it.

521
00:21:58.794 --> 00:22:02.596
It's another thing to start training it in your body to make those priorities happen in your life, right?

522
00:22:02.616 --> 00:22:04.817
Just like any other habit, lurking out or anything else.

523
00:22:05.137 --> 00:22:06.678
You have to build the neurology of that.

524
00:22:06.698 --> 00:22:14.402
You have to practice putting yourself in those states over and over again where you make the value based on love or you make the value based on contribution.

525
00:22:14.702 --> 00:22:15.343
See, before –

526
00:22:16.023 --> 00:22:19.785
you do something to be significant and you miss out on some of the love.

527
00:22:19.825 --> 00:22:22.046
Now, love is probably always what you wanted.

528
00:22:22.066 --> 00:22:24.587
That's why you can make that decision so quickly, right?

529
00:22:24.928 --> 00:22:27.809
But now I'm going to go for that first, not this circuitous route.

530
00:22:27.829 --> 00:22:29.490
By the way, you will still be significant.

531
00:22:30.250 --> 00:22:33.952
You'll be loving first and you'll be contributing, and that will make you significant.

532
00:22:34.452 --> 00:22:37.254
Is it really possible to change like that deeply?

533
00:22:38.045 --> 00:22:38.825
No, not at all.

534
00:22:38.926 --> 00:22:42.588
I've never been able to do that in my 49th year.

535
00:22:42.608 --> 00:22:44.348
I've never seen that happen.

536
00:22:44.389 --> 00:22:49.551
No, I was thinking really, really deeply about what you were saying, and I was thinking there will be some people that are listening.

537
00:22:49.932 --> 00:22:52.333
And I think there was maybe a part of me, my conscience, that's like,

538
00:22:54.268 --> 00:22:57.229
Because that's a journey I've never gone on before.

539
00:22:57.369 --> 00:23:00.790
I've never shifted from the- Well, you're not going to do it by discussion.

540
00:23:01.230 --> 00:23:02.171
You have to have leverage.

541
00:23:02.571 --> 00:23:03.311
And what is that?

542
00:23:03.411 --> 00:23:03.791
How do I do that?

543
00:23:03.811 --> 00:23:08.233
Leverage is, you have to have something you value more than your present way of doing things.

544
00:23:08.293 --> 00:23:09.993
Leverage can be pain or pleasure, right?

545
00:23:10.494 --> 00:23:11.534
So- Like my fiance.

546
00:23:12.134 --> 00:23:13.055
Yeah, your fiance.

547
00:23:13.075 --> 00:23:14.875
Yeah, I understand how you got to LA.

548
00:23:15.295 --> 00:23:15.495
Yeah.

549
00:23:15.936 --> 00:23:16.856
The leverage, right?

550
00:23:17.296 --> 00:23:19.157
Her love, her happiness, her joy.

551
00:23:19.357 --> 00:23:20.117
Oh, that's beautiful.

552
00:23:20.628 --> 00:23:20.948
It's a photo.

553
00:23:20.968 --> 00:23:21.508
That's my girl.

554
00:23:22.189 --> 00:23:22.689
You and Sage.

555
00:23:22.869 --> 00:23:23.409
That's awesome.

556
00:23:23.429 --> 00:23:25.030
You're good at putting people in state with their pictures.

557
00:23:25.050 --> 00:23:25.750
That's impressive.

558
00:23:26.830 --> 00:23:27.691
It's a beautiful photo.

559
00:23:28.051 --> 00:23:29.011
Yeah, I love her so much.

560
00:23:29.391 --> 00:23:30.592
We've been together 25 years.

561
00:23:30.632 --> 00:23:32.212
I love her more today than ever before.

562
00:23:32.573 --> 00:23:34.033
She is a force in nature, this woman.

563
00:23:34.533 --> 00:23:35.234
Really, really great.

564
00:23:35.594 --> 00:23:36.974
But yes, she's leveraging my life.

565
00:23:37.494 --> 00:23:41.616
My youngest daughter's massive leverage, you know, is four and a half years old.

566
00:23:42.156 --> 00:23:42.676
It's beautiful.

567
00:23:42.696 --> 00:23:43.957
But I'll give you an example.

568
00:23:44.297 --> 00:23:46.238
I worked with a woman one time on stage.

569
00:23:46.938 --> 00:23:56.692
She was a colon therapist and a vegan and, you know, so, but she was always sick because she's so stressed all the time trying to be perfect at everything.

570
00:23:56.752 --> 00:23:58.534
There's a constriction in her body, right?

571
00:23:59.315 --> 00:24:02.440
And, and the level of stress was just ridiculous, right?

572
00:24:02.820 --> 00:24:07.424
So I was trying to get her to see, have some other options about what to do without boring me the whole story.

573
00:24:07.845 --> 00:24:09.046
I'm looking for leverage always.

574
00:24:09.086 --> 00:24:10.407
That's how you get someone to make a change.

575
00:24:10.427 --> 00:24:12.409
You got to make change a must, not a should.

576
00:24:12.789 --> 00:24:14.010
Not me making it to you.

577
00:24:14.391 --> 00:24:15.932
If I put a gun to your head, that's leverage.

578
00:24:16.312 --> 00:24:18.674
But some people would rather die than bend to your will.

579
00:24:19.515 --> 00:24:21.017
You have to find out what moves that person.

580
00:24:21.077 --> 00:24:21.938
It's unique for everyone.

581
00:24:21.978 --> 00:24:23.059
Not what motivates them.

582
00:24:23.079 --> 00:24:23.960
I hate the word motivation.

583
00:24:23.980 --> 00:24:24.541
I've never used it.

584
00:24:24.561 --> 00:24:25.802
I want to know your drives.

585
00:24:26.203 --> 00:24:27.825
Look, if you're fat, you're motivated to eat.

586
00:24:27.905 --> 00:24:28.946
I want to know what's underneath.

587
00:24:28.986 --> 00:24:30.067
I want to know what the drives are.

588
00:24:30.528 --> 00:24:37.556
So this woman, I'm trying to help her make changes, and I show her these things and see the consequences, and she wouldn't change, wouldn't change.

589
00:24:37.576 --> 00:24:39.758
So finally I said, man, I got to push this light.

590
00:24:39.798 --> 00:24:40.098
It's like –

591
00:24:40.822 --> 00:24:44.824
I said, how long, I wouldn't tell her this, I asked.

592
00:24:44.864 --> 00:24:52.488
I said, how long would the person with the level of stress, with these things you're doing and these ailments, how long will a person like that live if they don't change?

593
00:24:53.869 --> 00:24:57.751
And she paused and she thought and she said, probably to 35.

594
00:24:57.791 --> 00:24:59.312
How old are you?

595
00:24:59.332 --> 00:25:00.332
32.

596
00:25:00.372 --> 00:25:03.314
So I thought, okay, she's going to change now.

597
00:25:03.354 --> 00:25:04.275
Maybe she's going to do it, right?

598
00:25:04.295 --> 00:25:04.815
That's the leverage.

599
00:25:04.835 --> 00:25:05.455
She's got to change.

600
00:25:06.336 --> 00:25:07.036
But I can't change.

601
00:25:07.056 --> 00:25:07.536
I just can't.

602
00:25:07.576 --> 00:25:08.517
It's just how my life is.

603
00:25:12.614 --> 00:25:15.036
I said, this session is on videotape, you know?

604
00:25:16.738 --> 00:25:25.186
And I said, how do you think your daughter's going to feel when she's carrying your coffin and she knows that you knew you could shift this and you didn't?

605
00:25:26.487 --> 00:25:27.127
This is pretty intense.

606
00:25:27.167 --> 00:25:28.288
I mean, she thinks she's going to die.

607
00:25:28.308 --> 00:25:29.489
If she doesn't do it, she probably could.

608
00:25:29.870 --> 00:25:31.872
So I'm picking up big leverage, right?

609
00:25:32.833 --> 00:25:35.435
She goes, I know that's horrible, but I can't change.

610
00:25:36.658 --> 00:25:39.280
And part of my head, I'm like, holy shit, she's not going to change here.

611
00:25:39.340 --> 00:25:40.380
What the hell is going to change her?

612
00:25:41.021 --> 00:25:47.425
And then I said to her, I said, yeah, what if her new mother is a meat eater?

613
00:25:48.598 --> 00:25:50.839
And she exploded on stage.

614
00:25:51.239 --> 00:25:52.259
That is not happening.

615
00:25:52.699 --> 00:25:53.820
I will not make this happen.

616
00:25:53.860 --> 00:25:55.180
I mean, she went berserk.

617
00:25:55.520 --> 00:25:57.641
And she goes, fine, I'm changing this now.

618
00:25:57.781 --> 00:25:59.942
Like there is always leverage.

619
00:26:00.262 --> 00:26:03.163
There is something that will make change a must and not a should.

620
00:26:03.723 --> 00:26:05.384
Change is never a matter of ability.

621
00:26:05.824 --> 00:26:08.485
It's always a matter of strong enough reasons, of motive.

622
00:26:09.025 --> 00:26:11.206
If you've got strong enough reasons, you can do just about anything.

623
00:26:11.586 --> 00:26:13.327
But if you have weak reasons, you're not going to do anything.

624
00:26:13.387 --> 00:26:16.008
So the fact that you understand this is our discussion.

625
00:26:16.449 --> 00:26:26.214
In an event, you'd be in a rather peak state, and I'd take you through a process of consequence where you will envision what the consequences are, and then you can make that shift.

626
00:26:26.274 --> 00:26:27.275
And you've still got to condition it.

627
00:26:27.415 --> 00:26:29.536
This specific change is the hardest one.

628
00:26:29.916 --> 00:26:34.439
I think a lot of people might say, I was thinking forward to life events to come and becoming a father.

629
00:26:35.159 --> 00:26:38.140
Yes, that will absolutely shift a lot of people.

630
00:26:38.260 --> 00:26:41.380
Becoming a father, getting married, falling in love.

631
00:26:41.700 --> 00:26:42.380
There are certain events.

632
00:26:42.740 --> 00:26:45.101
Losing people will make you reevaluate things.

633
00:26:45.501 --> 00:26:47.521
Hitting a birthday, you know, you're 33.

634
00:26:47.761 --> 00:26:50.842
When you hit your 40th birthday, I'm sure you don't think it will be any different.

635
00:26:51.222 --> 00:26:52.622
I remember people telling me that.

636
00:26:52.882 --> 00:26:56.423
But you tend to reevaluate for some weird reason in our culture.

637
00:26:56.763 --> 00:27:00.744
And after 40, usually a five-year or a 50-year or 60-year.

638
00:27:02.165 --> 00:27:04.032
It's just part of the way we look at life.

639
00:27:04.072 --> 00:27:07.544
There's a process you go through, and there will be different things that trigger you.

640
00:27:09.183 --> 00:27:12.284
When you want a real lasting change, you have to change the driving force.

641
00:27:12.344 --> 00:27:14.604
When we change these, it's changing your values.

642
00:27:15.344 --> 00:27:21.905
So again, like think about how your brain is a predictor and it's trying to close the gap between what it's predicting and what reality is.

643
00:27:22.305 --> 00:27:23.925
When it's not working, it looks for an answer.

644
00:27:24.005 --> 00:27:29.846
When you get to the point where your old strategy doesn't work enough and you have enough pain, you will search for something new.

645
00:27:30.287 --> 00:27:33.227
And if at that time we can give you something that actually works, you'll grab it.

646
00:27:33.247 --> 00:27:38.768
It's like if you're drowning in a sea of confusion and I throw your life raft, you're not gonna go, I don't like the color.

647
00:27:39.309 --> 00:27:42.633
You know, you're going to grab a hole, then it comes into your unconscious.

648
00:27:42.953 --> 00:27:47.339
And the last thing I'd say about that is it's also about going beyond your conscious mind.

649
00:27:48.283 --> 00:27:48.443
Right?

650
00:27:48.964 --> 00:27:54.248
If you ever try to do something and then sabotage yourself, it's just consciously you wanted one thing, subconsciously another.

651
00:27:54.729 --> 00:27:58.352
I believe all lasting change happens in an altered state.

652
00:27:58.812 --> 00:28:01.334
When I say an altered state, you could call it hypnosis.

653
00:28:01.795 --> 00:28:03.276
I tell people I'm a dehypnotist.

654
00:28:03.356 --> 00:28:04.817
Most people walk around in hypnosis.

655
00:28:05.218 --> 00:28:09.341
People tell me, like, you can't hypnotize me, and they're in a hypnotized state in that moment.

656
00:28:09.581 --> 00:28:11.083
Did you ever drive your car?

657
00:28:11.683 --> 00:28:14.465
And then something cuts your attention and you stay focused on it too long.

658
00:28:14.485 --> 00:28:16.767
And all of a sudden you realize, holy shit, who's been driving the car?

659
00:28:16.787 --> 00:28:18.348
You ever have that experience?

660
00:28:18.408 --> 00:28:19.449
That was a hypnosis state.

661
00:28:19.889 --> 00:28:23.092
Hypnosis just means you're inside, not outside most of the time.

662
00:28:23.712 --> 00:28:28.196
And in a hypnotic state, what goes in goes in deeper than just in a consciousness state.

663
00:28:28.596 --> 00:28:29.837
That's why I like doing storytelling.

664
00:28:29.877 --> 00:28:31.298
And my wife and I are...

665
00:28:32.222 --> 00:28:35.825
There's certain things in life that just shouldn't happen that are inhuman, and trafficking is one of them.

666
00:28:36.245 --> 00:28:40.489
And we had a friend that's child was taken and trafficked, and it was the most brutal thing.

667
00:28:40.529 --> 00:28:46.274
And so I got us involved, and so now we've contributed to 72,000 children being saved.

668
00:28:46.294 --> 00:28:50.317
I've gone out on some of these undercover with scars on my face and elements.

669
00:28:50.417 --> 00:28:52.959
It's the most brutal thing you can possibly imagine.

670
00:28:53.260 --> 00:28:59.205
But I tell you this because when you witness certain things in life that are so intense,

671
00:29:00.244 --> 00:29:00.925
They alter you.

672
00:29:01.125 --> 00:29:01.806
They change you.

673
00:29:01.886 --> 00:29:03.007
They change what you value.

674
00:29:03.027 --> 00:29:05.530
They change what you make important in your life.

675
00:29:06.030 --> 00:29:10.274
And so what I say to people, you want your life to keep growing, keep putting yourself in new environments.

676
00:29:10.835 --> 00:29:13.658
Keep getting around things you're not used to and let something hit you.

677
00:29:14.359 --> 00:29:17.082
People don't know their passions because they keep going and doing the same things.

678
00:29:17.142 --> 00:29:19.985
It's like get around where it's better and see what hits you.

679
00:29:20.545 --> 00:29:21.765
And something's gonna strike you.

680
00:29:21.825 --> 00:29:22.926
Something's gonna wake you up.

681
00:29:22.966 --> 00:29:29.188
Something is gonna make you feel more, desire more, want to give something to life as opposed to just live your life.

682
00:29:29.368 --> 00:29:31.648
Because the life you describe to those people is predictable.

683
00:29:32.429 --> 00:29:34.809
You get familiarized, even pain.

684
00:29:34.849 --> 00:29:36.330
I mean, you look at people in Auschwitz,

685
00:29:36.530 --> 00:29:39.551
You know, Man's Search for Meaning is one of my favorite books.

686
00:29:39.571 --> 00:29:39.971
Have you read it?

687
00:29:40.091 --> 00:29:40.731
Victor Franklin.

688
00:29:40.751 --> 00:29:40.991
Yeah.

689
00:29:41.031 --> 00:29:42.691
And I bought the rights on making the movie, right?

690
00:29:42.711 --> 00:29:43.151
Oh, really?

691
00:29:43.271 --> 00:29:46.952
The only reason I was telling you about the fun of the kids is I made The Sound of Freedom.

692
00:29:46.972 --> 00:29:47.432
Did you see it?

693
00:29:47.632 --> 00:29:47.912
Yes.

694
00:29:48.273 --> 00:29:49.153
It's incredible.

695
00:29:49.273 --> 00:29:50.953
And we beat Disney that week.

696
00:29:51.013 --> 00:29:52.753
And people thought that it would never happen, right?

697
00:29:52.813 --> 00:29:59.455
But that movie changed people radically, woke them up, brought resources to the table, created real shift.

698
00:30:00.195 --> 00:30:28.354
man's search the meaning i think can do that as well but in those places they get habituated to the pain you get habituated pain or pleasure that's why we've got to grow and when we grow we get that life cycle we feel more alive and then we got something to share and then we feel meaning and it's like a virtuous cycle and life gets better and better what you just listened to was a most replayed moment from a previous episode if you want to listen to that full episode i've linked it down below check the description thank you