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A lot of my friends that I grew up with were going to jail or ended up dead or shot in the streets.

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So I fell victim to doing illegal stuff.

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But it was the moment that we got armed robbed where I have a gun to my head now.

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And once I saw a barrel of that gun being pointed at me, that was the moment I noticed, okay, if I survive this, I'm going to become a comedian or die trying.

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My comedy comes from that place of healing, wanting to make our situation better at home.

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It's like one time I watched my brother get beat for wetting the bed.

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It was a lot.

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So I would always try to step in to try to be like a coping mechanism for him.

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Maybe it's my mom.

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So I knew I was funny.

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I knew I was very entertaining.

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But it didn't hit me until like college and I started to figure out, okay, wow.

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All the people I look up to are all like comedic legends.

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And I feel more connected to them than anything I've ever felt in my life.

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That is my purpose.

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So I left college.

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I went home.

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I wrote all these goals down on a sheet of paper.

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Now I'm locked in.

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I have no other option.

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I'm sitting here in a room, no mattress.

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My car got repossessed.

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I actually made that like a content piece.

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But I feared nothing because I'm like, I have nothing left.

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But I knew I'm like, I'm going to keep going.

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I'm going to continue to keep pursuing, making videos.

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Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.

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And then the thing that changed my life was Drake calling for the laugh now cry later major video.

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Everything shifted after that.

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Trisky, I had this crazy story that they accidentally sent you Jim Carrey's money.

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No, they sent an email showing how much he would be getting paid for that hour.

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People are saying it was in the region of f***ing insane.

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I hope he didn't see mine because that would have been a little bit embarrassing.

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And then in March, you did the skit and it did hundreds of millions of views.

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And then it sounded like Trump did ask f***ing.

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to sue you.

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I don't know if that's true.

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I'm not looking to get sued by nobody.

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I'm not looking forward to it.

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Who is he talking about?

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Uh,

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Trisky, I really believe that to understand somebody, somebody who is an anomaly, and you very much are an anomaly, you first have to sort of understand their earliest context.

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And I went through all of these old photos of you as a young boy to try and build some of that context in my own head.

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Sure, yeah.

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What is it that most people might not know about that earliest context that's most informative to sort of who you are today?

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What remains?

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I still literally feel like this little boy in all these pictures.

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Like, I see these moments and it reminds me of,

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how free I was able to be as a kid.

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And I wanted to be so much.

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And my mom and my grandparents, they always supported me being just open and free and having this, what is that right there?

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That was your dad and your brother?

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Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, my dad and my brother right here, for sure.

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Even looking at these pictures, I had no idea around this time who I was gonna become.

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This is, this is dope.

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How did you get these pictures, by the way?

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Where did you find all this?

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Did my mom send you these?

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I was looking through some of the videos that your parents recorded of you at that time.

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And you've got, like... Hello?

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It's hard.

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Do you have any more questions about me?

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About your teacher and how you're doing at school.

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Great.

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Then, I'll just focus on how you're doing it.

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That's me in character right there.

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That's literally in character.

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So she would put on these camcorders to let me be free.

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So that was like my outlet to be able to do these characters and be myself, you know?

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Yeah, yeah, I have multiple videos.

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I know you probably got more.

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There's one of me in a diaper like, wrapping up.

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That's another crazy one.

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I wasn't sure if this was last week, though.

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Yeah, that's my cousin Bree.

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Oh my God.

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What did you come up with those balls?

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Nah, it just... That's the beginning of the could have been records, right?

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Yeah.

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Nah, those are the moments, you know, we used to put on these performances for my family, and I'm just grateful that we were able...

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to be ourselves.

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And I was able to be supported somewhere because you do get confused in these settings, so to say, you know, you look like you have something to say to that.

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You know, I've interviewed a lot of comedians.

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And one of the things that I tend to find is that comedy is some sort of like tool.

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And when I spoke to Jimmy Carr or some of these other comedians that I've interviewed, they're always able to sort of understand in that early context,

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how they were using that tool to often solve a problem they had in that context.

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So I remember Jimmy saying to me, he goes, you often think of comedians as being depressed.

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But actually, for him, it was a case of comedy was a way to help his mom who was depressed.

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It was like how he saw her smile.

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Was comedy for you at that age a tool?

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Very much so.

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Very much so.

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And I speak about my dad because he was...

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one of those tough guys to deal with around that time.

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He wanted us to figure it out early.

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And like my dad was like the lead person of pushing that narrative.

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My mom somewhat would do it, but she would always try to tell him, relax, it's, you know, he's still, he's still a kid.

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Like he's, I'm at the time I'm like eight, nine years old.

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And my dad was like, what do you want to do?

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Figure it out.

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You're either going to go to jail or,

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You find a craft or you're going to end up in a warehouse or something.

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You got to figure out whatever you're going to do.

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Or you go to the military, get your ass blown off.

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And that was the only two options.

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He said, get your ass blown off.

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Yes.

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So imagine me at like eight, nine years old.

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Those are my three options.

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A school, find a trade, or you go to the military, get your ass blown off.

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Because we're going back to war.

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He was always talking about, we're going back to war.

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We're going back to war.

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And I'm like, what the fuck?

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Are we going to war?

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Like, so early on, he pushed that he wanted me to figure it out.

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And he had great lessons, but his teaching skills was very tough and physical.

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You know, he's old school.

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I'm sure you heard it before.

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He's very old school about his teachings and how he goes about doing it.

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So he has a short temper.

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Immediately, he asked, he used to ask these rhetorical questions all the time of like, he'll be like, go get me a Phillips screwdriver and I'll go get a regular screwdriver.

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He's like, this is not a Phillips screwdriver.

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Bam, upside the head.

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Then my brother goes, he's like, I want you to go get me.

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Phillips screwdriver.

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My brother goes and get a hammer, the dumbest shit, right?

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And he would come back and then bam, upside the head.

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So that was like the immediate of teaching.

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It's not the best way of teaching.

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And from an early age, I learned that speaking to other people's fathers and parents, I learned that this is not a normal thing.

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And I didn't know that until we would go to neighborhood parties and stuff, and maybe my dad would be like, oh, he's my boy's right here.

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He'll reach out his hand and we'll flinch like that, because it became a normal thing for him to always lift up his hand, like, if we said the wrong thing.

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So I wouldn't say that my comedy necessarily came from that, but it definitely came from like a healing, wanting to make our situation better at home.

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It's not like we don't come from a...

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like a broke home.

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I ain't going to say we weren't a broken.

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We were a broken home.

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We weren't a broke home.

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My dad was a airline pilot for United Airlines for entirely my whole younger life.

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My mom worked for the CDC.

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Very two good jobs.

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My mom was always home.

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My dad would travel in and out.

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But yeah.

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I think what I wanted to do in my personality as a kid was always to make the family smile, no matter through all this stuff that we're going through and these teachings being too far sometimes.

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Or maybe this ass whooping was too much.

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The ass whooping went too far because I'm not going to get into details on it, but yes, mass whoopings in the house that went too far.

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I never tend to punch down.

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I like to...

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find the funny but also the good side of funny and not look at the negative for my type of comedy.

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I can find a negative situation and bring the funny out of it for both sides, me and the other person.

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So I guess as a child, very perceptive children, you're on edge a little bit then.

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For sure.

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And it's funny, because I remember sitting with Gabor Maté and him telling me how kids that have an early context where they have to be a little bit more...

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aware, they often become very good at observation.

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Yes.

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And they become good therapists.

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They become the most empathetic.

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Yes.

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They also sometimes have struggles with mental health because being hypervigilant or being aware comes at a cost.

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It's not free.

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For all the upsides, there's always a downside.

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Does any of that resonate?

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One thousand percent, man.

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And I think sadly, in my brother's case, that went a negative direction.

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He was diagnosed with schizophrenia and bipolar disorder as we continue to go through puberty and got older.

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Whereas for me, I feel like I might have found a coping mechanism with comedy and maybe he never found that.

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coping mechanism from that trauma.

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And I feel like trauma can sometimes give you the good route or the negative route.

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And I feel like a lot of that going on in our house early on made a play to role and him being diagnosed with that.

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And yeah, that's the sad side of the story.

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But yeah, even with him, like I think early on, I would always...

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try to make him laugh because I knew we were in a fucked up situation.

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One time I watched my brother get beat for wetting the bed and it was the simplest thing.

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And I couldn't understand.

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I was like, why is he like, like getting beat this bad?

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It was very far, very, not the normal belt type thing.

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It was very, very far.

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So I would always try to step in either after or during these moments to try to be like a coping mechanism for him or like,

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Maybe it's my mom and he's arguing with her and they're getting physical as well.

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So I would always try to be, oh, the funny guy, maybe at the dinner after or maybe after the next day goes by and I'm trying to lift everybody's vibe up.

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So you watched your mother get hit as well?

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For sure.

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For sure.

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For sure.

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not physically hit, but I've seen different things of like the choking and, you know, pushing her out the door and then locking the door.

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And then I got to go and be the one staring at her at the door.

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And she's like, open it.

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And he's like, you better not open that door.

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And I'm in between a rock and a hard place trying to figure out, do I open this door with my mom or is he going to come?

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So it was a lot of different situations of –

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trying to figure it out at a very young age.

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And it started so young that I, some things are kind of blurred for me,

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I do know that my comedy comes from that comforting type of space.

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I can read a room and sense any type of danger.

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I can read a room and sense any type of happiness, sadness, anything.

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In any situation, somebody can be mentally ill, somebody can be physically hurt, somebody can be anything.

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And I always have been a good judge of character as well.

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So I feel like that has helped me in my career for sure.

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There's two things I wanted to add to that.

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Part of the reason I noticed this, obviously I've sat here 700 times or something doing these images.

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A thousand percent, yeah.

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And you're one of the first people to stop mid-conversation as you're speaking and say, you look like you had something to say there, Steve.

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Yeah.

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Because you were looking at my face.

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Yeah, I can read.

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People don't usually do that.

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So it's funny because I meet some people who are much more aware of me.

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You know, some people there are just talking and they're giving their answers to my questions.

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And then there's this other very rare group of people, often comedians, who I almost feel like I'm speaking to them even when I'm just sat here thinking.

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Because they're like hyper aware in that sense.

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For sure.

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And you just did that to me.

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So I thought, oh, he is super aware.

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Which kind of correlates to everything, you know, you were saying there.

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For sure.

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For sure.

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But it always comes at a cost.

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Yes, I agree.

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All gifts do.

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I sat with, I think it was Michael Jordan's trainer, who also then trained Kobe.

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And he said to me, he goes, our dark sides are linked to our light side.

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So the things people clap for are inherently linked to the things that we then struggle with.

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That's true for yourself, I'm presuming?

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Very true.

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And I think through life, I've learned that

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that not all teachers have the best way of teaching, which I speak on his lessons.

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Like he had many of lessons that were really good and on the positive side of life, where I had to eventually come to sources and just tell myself like, wow, like,

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I cannot look for more success and look for the light at the end of the tunnel without forgiving any and everything in my past.

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And that came with having to forgive my father in my head and also to him face to face of like,

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It's all, we just let it all go.

239
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And I think that helped me continue to move forward and not have any grudges.

240
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Grudges can really hold a lot of weight on you.

241
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Maybe his mother was abusive to him or his upbringing was in a different type of area in the world.

242
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Where it's like Northeast DC, very trauma neighborhood that's very like, you know, a negative place to grow up in.

243
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And he's from like the project buildings of that.

244
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The lessons he had were very good.

245
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He always talked about not half-assing anything.

246
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If you're going to do something, do it all the way.

247
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If you're going to mop the floor, don't just do this side of it.

248
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Do it like this.

249
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If you're going to clean the dishes, do all the dishes.

250
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Don't half-ass rinse it and then put it in there.

251
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But his lessons would be over the top.

252
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He's going to break the dishes if you do it.

253
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He's going to throw it up in the air and watch it crash on the ground.

254
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And then he's yelling to the highest he could yell.

255
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And it's just so...

256
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It used to be a lot, you know, and I think it almost like, you know, people talk about you, like, how can I be broken if I've already been broken?

257
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at an early age.

258
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And I, and I kind of feel that way.

259
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Like people be like, Oh, it's not too much of a burden on you and your career.

260
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It's not too much.

261
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And I'm like, how could I be broken?

262
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If I feel like I've already gone to my furthest extent, I, I, I can only continue to push myself to higher levels.

263
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Cause I, I feel like I've gone through everything that could be the worst possible situation, at least in my brain.

264
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But yeah, it had very good lessons and always had quotes and sayings on things like

265
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I actually actually have to bring it up.

266
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It's but it's confusing because at an early age, I had no idea.

267
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Oh, OK.

268
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It only takes one.

269
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Whoa, shit.

270
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I really fuck this up to negate 10 out of boys.

271
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I have no idea.

272
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Still to this day, I get confused, but I understood.

273
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I mean, tell you what I understood that I understood that as life went on.

274
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And I start to notice a lot of my friends that I grew up with and the area I grew up in were going to jail or falsely being accused of things or...

275
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ended up being dead or shot in the streets.

276
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And like, we seen a lot of that stuff.

277
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Cause I've come from a neighborhood where it's the suburb, but it also had a mixture of the real Atlanta in there as well.

278
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But yeah, so these things were very confusing to me early on, but as I continued to grow in life, every single lesson that he had taught me and that he had told and talked about and constantly over, over, over, over again, spoke on,

279
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it started to come back to me in my later years of life.

280
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And I began to grow an appreciation for it.

281
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After I forgave him for, you know, all these, you know, past trauma situations and everything that happened.

282
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But yeah.

283
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And when you say forgive, are you, do you have a good relationship with him now?

284
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Yes.

285
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Very, very good.

286
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For sure.

287
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Yeah.

288
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And I think you just, you, in anything in life, you have to move on from things and, you know,

289
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continue to push.

290
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I think you can never grow to do great things without looking back and being like, okay, I have to close the door on this.

291
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I cannot hold this grudge.

292
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Because if you hold a grudge, you got to think about what a grudge is.

293
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A grudge is on you as a burden.

294
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That's a burden to everything.

295
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It's not just physical.

296
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It's a mental thing that can really rot people's brain out.

297
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It's a thing.

298
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And I'm sure you probably, you know.

299
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Of course, yeah.

300
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But a lot of people think of forgiveness as...

301
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letting them win or justification.

302
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Or they feel like a loser because, oh, I'm not going to forgive them.

303
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I'm going to hold that grudge to the death.

304
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It's like, yo, you're not helping yourself.

305
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That's actually a you thing.

306
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That has nothing to do with them or what they did.

307
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If you hold on to that, that's a forever thing for you.

308
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And one of the things that will give you is great resilience, I imagine.

309
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You talked about it there.

310
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You said, how can anything break me when I've already been broken to the fullest extent?

311
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Again, with that comes a set of issues you contend with as an adult.

312
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I mean, I experienced it myself, which is if my parents were quite, there wasn't a lot of love between them.

313
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So one of the lessons I inherited was that relationships look like this.

314
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And this isn't necessarily a great thing that I want.

315
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Right.

316
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So I swerved relationships at every opportunity I was presented.

317
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I'd pursue people.

318
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And then the minute they turned to me and said, do you want to be in a relationship?

319
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I was like, it's too much.

320
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I was like.

321
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It's too much.

322
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I've seen this before.

323
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I'm getting away from this.

324
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Now I know where this goes.

325
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I know what you mean.

326
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I deal with that as well, for sure.

327
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I know exactly what you mean.

328
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Yeah.

329
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Have you experienced that yourself as well?

330
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Yes.

331
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I feel like I continuously have grown a relationship with women

332
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in a way where I feel like I almost get scared with getting too close, kind of like how you explain, because of maybe I haven't seen the successful home of two parents or two people in a relationship.

333
00:19:08.694 --> 00:19:18.702
Yeah, maybe I haven't seen it with my own two eyes to work, and I feel like that kind of does hinder me a little bit because it does come in between...

334
00:19:19.983 --> 00:19:24.057
when I feel these feelings for this girl and...

335
00:19:24.831 --> 00:19:30.775
I almost jumped back immediately as soon as I was like, no, no, no, I don't trust it because I know what this comes with.

336
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And they're like, yo, what do you mean?

337
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We didn't even get a chance to fully.

338
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And I don't know.

339
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It's a natural mind thing that happens to me.

340
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And I still, to this day, I have no idea.

341
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If you want to be my doctor for this, go ahead.

342
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I'm just hypothesizing.

343
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But I have no idea why.

344
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I feel like that has something to do with it.

345
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Maybe I haven't seen it in a way that's healthy.

346
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And that might be the reason why, but I still, that's a question that I need to answer.

347
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If I spoke to someone that you were in a relationship with and I said to them, is Drew affectionate?

348
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You laugh and you know the answer.

349
00:20:10.982 --> 00:20:11.483
No, no, no.

350
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I feel like they would tell you that I am until I'm not.

351
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And I basically just, I just pull out.

352
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Like I pull back.

353
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Like I almost feel once I get too close, I can't trust it.

354
00:20:25.705 --> 00:20:28.627
It's almost like a magnet when you reverse it on the other side.

355
00:20:28.667 --> 00:20:31.329
It's like when it comes too close, it starts to repel itself.

356
00:20:31.629 --> 00:20:35.491
That's how I feel when it comes to me getting more and more closer with the female.

357
00:20:36.632 --> 00:20:37.132
That makes sense.

358
00:20:37.152 --> 00:20:40.034
I think that's what I experienced up until I was about 27 years old.

359
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Sure.

360
00:20:40.975 --> 00:20:43.797
But I'm 31 still experiencing it.

361
00:20:43.817 --> 00:20:44.597
Yeah, it ain't that far.

362
00:20:44.637 --> 00:20:45.738
I gotta find a wife.

363
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I have to find a wife.

364
00:20:48.260 --> 00:20:49.300
You have to find a wife.

365
00:20:50.181 --> 00:20:50.941
No, it'll happen.

366
00:20:51.042 --> 00:20:51.382
It'll happen.

367
00:20:51.402 --> 00:20:51.802
Yeah.

368
00:20:51.942 --> 00:20:54.703
Does it matter increasingly as you become more successful to you?

369
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Do you think more about it as you go further?

370
00:20:56.804 --> 00:20:59.986
It's hard to trust after you become...

371
00:21:01.487 --> 00:21:05.709
I think when you're kind of successful at the beginning, it's not hard to trust.

372
00:21:05.729 --> 00:21:15.994
You're just like, yo, she likes me for me, but also she can still like me for the celebrity I am, kind of 50-50.

373
00:21:16.254 --> 00:21:18.195
But as you become more and more successful...

374
00:21:19.132 --> 00:21:25.255
You have this doubt in your mind like this could absolutely be her in love with just Drewski and not Drew at all.

375
00:21:25.495 --> 00:21:27.836
Is that just a convenient excuse for the whole avoidant?

376
00:21:28.097 --> 00:21:28.597
No, no, no.

377
00:21:28.857 --> 00:21:29.517
I'm serious.

378
00:21:30.118 --> 00:21:30.758
I promise.

379
00:21:30.778 --> 00:21:34.620
Like it's a question in every superstar's mind.

380
00:21:34.660 --> 00:21:41.303
I guarantee you, even when they are with somebody fully, they still have a question in the back of their mind.

381
00:21:41.803 --> 00:21:44.425
Does this person just love the superstar of me?

382
00:21:45.125 --> 00:21:46.006
That's so interesting.

383
00:21:46.527 --> 00:21:50.272
And it does bother somebody who is super successful because

384
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you see all these people will scream and chase you and you have a show or maybe a meet and greet and you see how people react to you or you go on the street and you almost want, you want to believe that this person that you're dating also is genuine, like how these fans are like, oh, okay, maybe she just loves me for me.

385
00:22:10.865 --> 00:22:14.746
Maybe this is not kind of like how the fans just love me for that.

386
00:22:14.786 --> 00:22:16.727
You want her to believe that this is the same

387
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type of real thing.

388
00:22:19.248 --> 00:22:23.349
But it's hard to believe after you see all of this stuff, you only know me for that.

389
00:22:23.809 --> 00:22:30.812
You didn't meet me when I was just at home living with my mom, broke on the sofa.

390
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You know what I'm saying?

391
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You didn't see the real side of who I actually am.

392
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If you get what I'm saying, you see the new personality, sort of say, yeah.

393
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It's tough.

394
00:22:43.757 --> 00:22:44.598
It's tough out here, man.

395
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Could have been love.

396
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Could have been love.

397
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Fuck.

398
00:22:48.181 --> 00:22:54.807
So you go off to college, and you last, was it two semesters before you dropped out?

399
00:22:55.207 --> 00:22:55.908
Yeah.

400
00:22:55.928 --> 00:23:01.953
No, I started at a school that was in Gwinnett County, where I grew up.

401
00:23:02.894 --> 00:23:06.818
So I spent like a year and then another half of a semester there.

402
00:23:07.610 --> 00:23:12.892
and I got enough credits to transfer because I was like, okay, I've got to get out of here.

403
00:23:12.912 --> 00:23:15.254
Like, I know my life is bigger than this.

404
00:23:15.294 --> 00:23:18.755
And also, at the time, I wasn't thinking, oh, I want to be a superstar.

405
00:23:18.775 --> 00:23:21.676
I was just thinking I wanted a real college experience.

406
00:23:21.716 --> 00:23:22.297
I wanted to...

407
00:23:23.177 --> 00:23:24.559
Go to a four year college.

408
00:23:24.579 --> 00:23:26.921
I didn't have the grades to do it in high school and go straight there.

409
00:23:27.282 --> 00:23:29.324
I want to find a way to do it in college.

410
00:23:29.824 --> 00:23:38.954
So I think when I went to Georgia Southern as the school following that, I just wanted to find the college ecosystem of like, what's the vibe here?

411
00:23:38.994 --> 00:23:39.614
Oh, let's party.

412
00:23:39.634 --> 00:23:40.555
Let's do this.

413
00:23:40.936 --> 00:23:42.938
And I didn't find that as soon as I got there.

414
00:23:42.978 --> 00:23:44.539
It's almost like I didn't get the immediate

415
00:23:45.432 --> 00:23:46.573
this is college.

416
00:23:47.073 --> 00:23:49.015
Like I thought I would get after I got there.

417
00:23:49.735 --> 00:24:00.944
And I went into like a deep depression because I had two guys that I knew went to the school from like, like, you know, somebody from your County, of course.

418
00:24:01.525 --> 00:24:03.026
And I was like, okay, I'll link up with him.

419
00:24:03.086 --> 00:24:08.210
He'll be a great friend to be along with on this ride of whatever this new school is.

420
00:24:08.431 --> 00:24:10.512
And I would try to link up with them.

421
00:24:10.612 --> 00:24:13.214
And for some reason it always was like,

422
00:24:14.215 --> 00:24:15.936
a hassle for me to link up with them.

423
00:24:15.996 --> 00:24:19.097
They always would be like, oh, we always got to pick you up.

424
00:24:19.117 --> 00:24:19.857
You don't have a car.

425
00:24:20.417 --> 00:24:22.038
And I'm like, no, I'll get an Uber to y'all.

426
00:24:22.618 --> 00:24:26.439
Well, if you don't have any money to get into the game, there's no point in coming because we can't pay for you.

427
00:24:26.659 --> 00:24:28.760
Or I want to come to the party with y'all.

428
00:24:29.120 --> 00:24:31.501
Oh, well, you have the same shoes that you hoop in.

429
00:24:31.601 --> 00:24:32.682
Why would we bring you?

430
00:24:33.262 --> 00:24:39.784
They always have jokes about maybe, I felt like I wasn't deserving enough to be around them, sort of say.

431
00:24:39.924 --> 00:24:41.825
And I felt like,

432
00:24:43.052 --> 00:24:46.074
almost very, for the first time in my life, very depressed.

433
00:24:46.715 --> 00:24:51.518
And that kind of bothered me because I started to just not even go to classes anymore at this new school.

434
00:24:51.558 --> 00:24:52.899
I was just staying in my dorm room.

435
00:24:53.179 --> 00:24:54.960
So I went to not even go into class anymore.

436
00:24:54.980 --> 00:25:01.745
I stopped going to classes for like the whole second semester of being at that school, no classes, sat in my room,

437
00:25:02.658 --> 00:25:06.319
and would just sit and think I'm calling my friends back at home.

438
00:25:07.020 --> 00:25:07.780
They're not doing nothing.

439
00:25:07.800 --> 00:25:10.681
So I kind of didn't want to go home because I'm like, damn, they're not doing shit.

440
00:25:10.721 --> 00:25:12.161
I'm not going to go back.

441
00:25:12.181 --> 00:25:13.762
But also like, what am I doing here?

442
00:25:13.782 --> 00:25:15.443
I'm not doing anything here either.

443
00:25:16.363 --> 00:25:17.603
What is my purpose in life?

444
00:25:18.064 --> 00:25:19.044
So sitting in there.

445
00:25:20.191 --> 00:25:27.337
and being depressed and sad and looking at myself in the mirror, I started to figure out, I'm like, damn, what do I really want to do in life?

446
00:25:27.417 --> 00:25:29.578
Is any of this really makes sense?

447
00:25:29.598 --> 00:25:34.482
Like I'm here for sports journalism, but do I want, I know I want to be on TV.

448
00:25:35.023 --> 00:25:40.167
Like I took sports journalism to be maybe an ESPN sports cast just to get my face on TV.

449
00:25:40.187 --> 00:25:40.667
I didn't know.

450
00:25:40.987 --> 00:25:42.208
I was like, maybe I want to do that.

451
00:25:42.429 --> 00:25:43.189
It sounds cool.

452
00:25:43.850 --> 00:25:46.072
But as I continued to do more, uh,

453
00:25:46.792 --> 00:25:51.758
I guess, soul searching, sort of say, just sitting in the room and thinking about what I want to do.

454
00:25:52.078 --> 00:25:58.946
These I would sit and watch Steve Harvey interviews on like, what is it you want to do in your life?

455
00:25:59.066 --> 00:26:01.909
Jump, jump off a mountaintop and take a risk.

456
00:26:01.929 --> 00:26:07.135
And like I would watch all these videos of everything of people I looked up to, Kevin Hart and.

457
00:26:09.027 --> 00:26:11.169
And I started to figure out, okay, what's my purpose?

458
00:26:11.209 --> 00:26:15.573
These are the people I look up to, but what exactly do I wanna do?

459
00:26:16.374 --> 00:26:19.597
And as I continued to do more search and I started to figure out, okay, wow,

460
00:26:20.570 --> 00:26:24.073
I think all the people I look up to are all like comedic legends.

461
00:26:24.213 --> 00:26:26.115
I'm watching Will Ferrell stuff, Chris Farley.

462
00:26:27.036 --> 00:26:30.539
These are guys that I find as my heroes.

463
00:26:31.360 --> 00:26:41.570
I think since I've always been the funny guy in every classroom, everything I've done sports, I get kicked off the football team for being funny, all this stuff is,

464
00:26:42.487 --> 00:26:44.989
is because I am a comedian.

465
00:26:45.690 --> 00:26:50.734
And it was almost like, I felt like an idiot, because I'm like, damn, I'm sitting over here in college.

466
00:26:51.395 --> 00:26:52.336
That is my purpose.

467
00:26:52.496 --> 00:26:53.056
This is it.

468
00:26:53.797 --> 00:26:59.101
I feel more connected to them than I've ever felt to anything I've ever felt in my life.

469
00:26:59.442 --> 00:26:59.642
Why?

470
00:27:00.895 --> 00:27:12.484
The things they would say in a Kevin Hart interview, the things he would say in a Steve Harvey interview, the things Will Ferrell would say or Chris Farley would say or Jim Carrey.

471
00:27:13.024 --> 00:27:20.830
I felt more attached to it because they also felt a need and a purpose to become like a hero of comedy.

472
00:27:20.890 --> 00:27:21.290
I don't know.

473
00:27:21.310 --> 00:27:24.753
It sounds dumb because when you tell your parents, oh, I want to be.

474
00:27:25.741 --> 00:27:33.083
a comedian, they're like, oh, you're like basically a clown, I guess, and you'll go start doing standup rooms and maybe you make it, maybe you don't.

475
00:27:33.123 --> 00:27:37.344
It sounds kind of silly telling people or your hometown friends, oh, I'm gonna be a comedian.

476
00:27:37.824 --> 00:27:44.606
But as I continued to do more and more research on everything I wanted to do, I started to figure out, okay, this is my purpose.

477
00:27:44.746 --> 00:27:45.807
And it always has been.

478
00:27:46.407 --> 00:27:48.448
And I see these videos of me as a kid.

479
00:27:48.768 --> 00:27:51.929
I'm remembering memories of all this stuff early on.

480
00:27:52.489 --> 00:27:53.009
This is it.

481
00:27:53.749 --> 00:27:59.511
And that's when I just had like a, I don't know what they would call like epiphany, you know?

482
00:28:00.211 --> 00:28:03.432
But yeah, that was a big change for me in my career.

483
00:28:03.892 --> 00:28:06.053
Well, not even my career, at the beginning processes.

484
00:28:06.433 --> 00:28:10.434
When you say I was depressed, that word can mean lots of things to lots of people.

485
00:28:10.954 --> 00:28:11.615
For sure.

486
00:28:11.695 --> 00:28:13.935
What does it mean in your definition in that moment of your life?

487
00:28:13.975 --> 00:28:21.798
If I was a fly on the wall or, you know, just in the room, but also if I was inside your head at that time, what would I hear and what would I see if I was a fly on the wall?

488
00:28:23.048 --> 00:28:25.749
I think you would just see me in there confused, man.

489
00:28:25.829 --> 00:28:27.970
I would sit in my room for hours.

490
00:28:29.150 --> 00:28:30.791
I would sit there and play 2K.

491
00:28:31.752 --> 00:28:39.835
I would sit there and play music for hours and not, I wasn't really doing anything.

492
00:28:39.855 --> 00:28:41.255
I had no friends at that school.

493
00:28:41.996 --> 00:28:44.537
I would walk to like the corner store

494
00:28:45.641 --> 00:28:47.102
My mom will send me like $20.

495
00:28:47.162 --> 00:28:55.409
I'll buy as much as I could get to be able to stay in the room and not go out and socialize with all these people at this huge school.

496
00:28:55.449 --> 00:28:59.333
I would get as much food as I could get at the time to go back and just be in the room.

497
00:29:00.548 --> 00:29:04.792
And that's when I knew I was like, yo, I'm really like in a state I've never been in my life.

498
00:29:05.492 --> 00:29:09.115
Imagine I'm used to being at a high school where I was known as the class clown.

499
00:29:09.816 --> 00:29:15.881
Anybody in my family knows me to be the the guy that brings the warmth to the room and to make everybody laugh.

500
00:29:15.941 --> 00:29:19.123
And he's he's always bringing good energy to now.

501
00:29:19.163 --> 00:29:26.109
I'm sitting here almost hiding away from society and very, very dark on myself.

502
00:29:26.149 --> 00:29:27.070
I was I'm very.

503
00:29:27.090 --> 00:29:27.170
I'm.

504
00:29:28.402 --> 00:29:32.191
like hard on myself about everything that I want to do.

505
00:29:32.371 --> 00:29:35.479
And I was, it took, it took a while for me to understand what,

506
00:29:36.378 --> 00:29:45.724
I think me going on YouTube and trying to research successful people, I started to line up the people that I found inspiring.

507
00:29:45.824 --> 00:29:48.405
And every single one of them were all comedians.

508
00:29:49.566 --> 00:29:54.369
I felt more attached to every single one of them than I've ever felt attached to anybody else in my life.

509
00:29:54.509 --> 00:30:00.092
It's funny, because through your childhood, you were a comedian, you know, clearly from all the videos that I've seen.

510
00:30:00.632 --> 00:30:01.233
And, uh, I think,

511
00:30:02.053 --> 00:30:04.834
People think of comedians as giving, like you make us laugh.

512
00:30:05.014 --> 00:30:05.314
Yeah.

513
00:30:05.374 --> 00:30:07.875
But obviously that you get something from that too.

514
00:30:08.375 --> 00:30:08.655
Sure.

515
00:30:09.115 --> 00:30:12.076
And then suddenly you're in this room and you're no longer getting that thing.

516
00:30:12.357 --> 00:30:12.597
Yeah.

517
00:30:12.777 --> 00:30:13.377
Whatever it is.

518
00:30:13.637 --> 00:30:14.017
For sure.

519
00:30:14.777 --> 00:30:15.458
What is that thing?

520
00:30:16.238 --> 00:30:18.759
I knew that was a thing early on when I was a kid.

521
00:30:18.799 --> 00:30:27.962
I would have these conversations with myself of at home after elementary of, did I make the class laugh today?

522
00:30:28.953 --> 00:30:33.657
And why does that feel so good to me to brag about?

523
00:30:33.777 --> 00:30:37.139
Or I would ask other students, who's the funniest to you in this class?

524
00:30:37.399 --> 00:30:38.780
Or who's the funniest in our grade?

525
00:30:39.301 --> 00:30:40.241
And I would really ask them.

526
00:30:40.261 --> 00:30:41.943
I was like, why do you feel like he's funny?

527
00:30:41.963 --> 00:30:44.304
Like, why is Mikey funnier than me?

528
00:30:44.705 --> 00:30:45.385
Tell me why.

529
00:30:45.666 --> 00:30:48.548
And it was almost like a competition in my head

530
00:30:49.895 --> 00:30:52.576
that nobody knew about, but it was in me.

531
00:30:52.696 --> 00:30:53.277
You know what I'm saying?

532
00:30:53.297 --> 00:30:55.858
Like, I felt like it was, it meant something.

533
00:30:55.938 --> 00:31:00.280
If they told me, oh, you're, of course, you're the funniest guy in our grade, duh.

534
00:31:00.420 --> 00:31:01.341
And how would that make you feel?

535
00:31:01.601 --> 00:31:02.761
That made me feel successful.

536
00:31:02.801 --> 00:31:05.783
It felt like I won the Mark Twain Award of the school.

537
00:31:06.403 --> 00:31:14.127
Like, that is like the Oscar for me at a young age if somebody told me, oh my God, you're the funniest at the school.

538
00:31:14.487 --> 00:31:15.928
I think it's interesting often that,

539
00:31:16.569 --> 00:31:20.373
Your nature was clearly you were a comedian, but that's not a career that kids are taught about.

540
00:31:20.393 --> 00:31:24.157
They're taught about, like you said, like your dad said, like, go get your ass blown off and all these other things.

541
00:31:24.577 --> 00:31:25.579
But they'd find a trade.

542
00:31:25.599 --> 00:31:26.620
Find a trade.

543
00:31:26.860 --> 00:31:31.825
But until you're given a word for it sometimes, you don't have that epiphany.

544
00:31:32.585 --> 00:31:34.226
I thought that about being an entrepreneur.

545
00:31:34.306 --> 00:31:37.348
I didn't know it was a thing until I was 19, and I was already doing it.

546
00:31:37.408 --> 00:31:39.890
And then I heard the word, and someone gave it meaning.

547
00:31:39.910 --> 00:31:41.751
I was like, oh, that's a thing you can do as a job?

548
00:31:41.991 --> 00:31:42.211
Yeah.

549
00:31:42.451 --> 00:31:45.053
And then suddenly, mind expansion.

550
00:31:45.533 --> 00:31:46.374
Yeah, you know what it was?

551
00:31:46.734 --> 00:31:50.457
I knew, I always knew that comedy was a thing.

552
00:31:50.737 --> 00:31:52.218
I didn't know that I...

553
00:31:54.356 --> 00:32:00.643
wanted to do it as bad as I was doing it, I was always watching it.

554
00:32:00.763 --> 00:32:01.644
I always watched.

555
00:32:01.924 --> 00:32:07.650
My mom would show us In Living Color movies like What About Bob early on.

556
00:32:08.190 --> 00:32:10.352
My dad would always have the Chappelle show on.

557
00:32:11.093 --> 00:32:18.578
And I would try to sneak and watch that because I was very much rated R. In the kids' mind, they'd be like, oh, you can't watch this stuff.

558
00:32:18.598 --> 00:32:19.178
Get upstairs.

559
00:32:19.238 --> 00:32:23.862
And I would still try to sneak behind the stairs and look like, oh, my God, that's so funny.

560
00:32:23.882 --> 00:32:29.986
And I would try to say these jokes back at school that I hear Dave Chappelle saying or Blank Man.

561
00:32:30.786 --> 00:32:37.270
He was like a guy in a wheelchair from In Living Color that ended up becoming a movie.

562
00:32:37.350 --> 00:32:39.332
And they made this whole thing called Blank Man.

563
00:32:40.102 --> 00:32:42.703
The fact of the matter is that it was always in front of me.

564
00:32:43.363 --> 00:32:46.383
And I always was a big fan of comedy.

565
00:32:46.523 --> 00:32:51.945
I just didn't know that my mom, so to say, was influencing.

566
00:32:52.005 --> 00:32:55.545
And I say my mom because she would always put this stuff in front of us.

567
00:32:56.005 --> 00:33:02.107
Because she wanted the best for us, but she always... She was the...

568
00:33:05.141 --> 00:33:07.463
almost like the seesaw to level everything out.

569
00:33:08.064 --> 00:33:12.547
If something bad happens with my dad, my mom was always there to level it out.

570
00:33:13.588 --> 00:33:17.151
She was the one that would come in and tell him, like, David, that's too much.

571
00:33:17.211 --> 00:33:20.694
And sometimes he would bark at her and be like, get the fuck out of here.

572
00:33:20.974 --> 00:33:22.295
These boys are going to end up being men.

573
00:33:22.315 --> 00:33:23.336
They need to learn this now.

574
00:33:24.480 --> 00:33:32.703
But she always had like quotes or good things she would always say like, just continue to believe in yourself, continue to know this.

575
00:33:33.224 --> 00:33:38.146
So she was, my mom was always a big believer in anything becoming big, you know?

576
00:33:39.066 --> 00:33:41.947
Yeah, so I gotta give her a lot for that.

577
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579
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580
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581
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584
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585
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586
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587
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588
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589
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590
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591
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592
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593
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594
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595
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596
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597
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598
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599
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600
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601
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602
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603
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604
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605
00:35:55.728 --> 00:36:01.552
So you went off to university, you discovered these great comedians, you discovered, you said Steve Harvey, who's, I think he's 69 years old now.

606
00:36:01.572 --> 00:36:04.554
He's an American comedian and TV host, stand-up comic as well.

607
00:36:05.194 --> 00:36:06.135
One of the kings of comedy.

608
00:36:06.235 --> 00:36:07.355
One of your idols in comedy?

609
00:36:07.676 --> 00:36:08.336
Yeah, for sure.

610
00:36:08.376 --> 00:36:08.756
Hell yeah.

611
00:36:08.976 --> 00:36:14.160
What was it that he said in particular that you recall that really sort of pushed you forward in that moment?

612
00:36:14.620 --> 00:36:18.923
I remember he had a video that talked about just taking a risk and just jumping.

613
00:36:19.875 --> 00:36:22.876
And he spoke on, just take the leap of faith and just jump.

614
00:36:23.556 --> 00:36:25.597
Stop overthinking everything.

615
00:36:26.418 --> 00:36:29.739
Nothing happens without taking this risk.

616
00:36:30.439 --> 00:36:37.582
And I knew he continued to say something in these videos of, if you believe there's something more to your life, there is.

617
00:36:39.238 --> 00:36:45.145
If you have that vision that keeps popping up in your head, that means that very much so is in your life.

618
00:36:45.646 --> 00:36:49.871
And I just kept hearing him say that and I played the video back, played the video back again, played the video back.

619
00:36:52.327 --> 00:36:56.670
That means there is because I kept feeling that feeling I kept having.

620
00:36:56.690 --> 00:36:59.172
I'm like, there's more to my life than what it is right now.

621
00:36:59.212 --> 00:37:00.773
And I knew it in the back of my head.

622
00:37:00.793 --> 00:37:01.514
I was like, I know it.

623
00:37:01.594 --> 00:37:01.994
I know it.

624
00:37:02.014 --> 00:37:02.414
I know it.

625
00:37:02.735 --> 00:37:05.357
There's more to this than than what I feel.

626
00:37:06.117 --> 00:37:06.618
It's in the back.

627
00:37:06.718 --> 00:37:07.658
And I and I continue.

628
00:37:07.738 --> 00:37:11.021
And that's what resonated with me from the video that I watched on him.

629
00:37:11.041 --> 00:37:13.042
That was it was like life changing.

630
00:37:13.503 --> 00:37:14.123
I spoke to Steve.

631
00:37:14.904 --> 00:37:15.344
Oh, man.

632
00:37:16.385 --> 00:37:17.626
Well, you got to show me, man.

633
00:37:19.372 --> 00:37:22.173
He wanted to send you a little video message as well.

634
00:37:23.113 --> 00:37:24.173
Hey, what's happening, Trusky?

635
00:37:24.253 --> 00:37:33.976
Hey, look, man, I heard they was doing something for you, so I wanted to jump on here, man, and just give you some big ups, man, let you know, man, I've been watching you for a while from the distance, man.

636
00:37:33.996 --> 00:37:37.276
We've only spoken once, but look, man, I think you're special.

637
00:37:37.456 --> 00:37:38.497
You got a gift, man.

638
00:37:38.537 --> 00:37:39.857
You're really, really special.

639
00:37:40.717 --> 00:37:43.638
And with that specialness, man, comes some responsibility.

640
00:37:44.602 --> 00:37:46.183
And so just be careful, man.

641
00:37:46.243 --> 00:37:51.487
Remember everything your mom and your grandmama told you because you're going to need all of that because you're killing the game.

642
00:37:51.547 --> 00:37:54.869
And once you start killing the game, it's like chess, man.

643
00:37:55.009 --> 00:37:56.210
We're out here playing chess.

644
00:37:56.591 --> 00:37:58.292
The object is to kill the king.

645
00:37:58.832 --> 00:37:59.953
Sad, but true.

646
00:38:00.513 --> 00:38:01.514
Keep your faith, brother.

647
00:38:01.694 --> 00:38:02.615
Stay funny, man.

648
00:38:02.655 --> 00:38:04.176
If you need me, call Unc.

649
00:38:04.256 --> 00:38:04.856
I got you.

650
00:38:04.876 --> 00:38:06.037
This is crazy.

651
00:38:06.217 --> 00:38:07.158
That is nuts, bro.

652
00:38:07.218 --> 00:38:08.639
Yeah.

653
00:38:11.641 --> 00:38:12.781
That is amazing, man.

654
00:38:12.841 --> 00:38:17.283
And that really is a full circle moment, even hearing him say that.

655
00:38:17.423 --> 00:38:18.763
And wow, man.

656
00:38:20.044 --> 00:38:29.266
Somebody that definitely I looked up to, him amongst the other kings of comedy as well, is like, wow, man.

657
00:38:29.406 --> 00:38:30.047
That's deep.

658
00:38:32.925 --> 00:38:33.906
What happens from there?

659
00:38:33.926 --> 00:38:37.107
You go from being in that room, you're watching these Steve Harvey videos.

660
00:38:37.447 --> 00:38:40.008
Presumably you've got to call your mom and you've got to tell your mom that you're dropping out.

661
00:38:40.128 --> 00:38:43.849
Yeah, she wasn't happy about that.

662
00:38:44.329 --> 00:38:50.591
I remember she cried and she hung up on me and she was like, this is just so dumb.

663
00:38:50.631 --> 00:38:51.672
Like, what are you talking about?

664
00:38:51.772 --> 00:38:52.592
What did you say to her?

665
00:38:53.272 --> 00:38:54.153
I couldn't get any words out.

666
00:38:54.173 --> 00:38:54.733
She hung up.

667
00:38:55.625 --> 00:39:06.032
But I remember seeing her crying on the FaceTime after, I just wanted to tell her what my vision was on, cause you know, you say I'm dropping out, but then of course you have a rebuttal.

668
00:39:06.333 --> 00:39:07.273
I have a great idea.

669
00:39:08.234 --> 00:39:09.535
And she hung up immediately.

670
00:39:10.373 --> 00:39:11.474
So then I called my friend.

671
00:39:11.534 --> 00:39:15.456
He came and grabbed me from the school in the middle of the night.

672
00:39:15.957 --> 00:39:18.438
I was like four hours away from Atlanta, Georgia.

673
00:39:18.478 --> 00:39:20.099
I'm deep down in Southern Georgia.

674
00:39:21.900 --> 00:39:23.121
And we drove all the way back.

675
00:39:23.902 --> 00:39:26.723
And when I got there, of course, she let me in the house.

676
00:39:26.823 --> 00:39:31.767
And I think it was just a confusing time because

677
00:39:32.918 --> 00:39:34.239
I'm also not making any money.

678
00:39:34.279 --> 00:39:35.360
So she's like, now what?

679
00:39:35.921 --> 00:39:37.922
Like now, what are you going to do?

680
00:39:37.982 --> 00:39:40.765
And I had this big plan and I told her what I was going to do.

681
00:39:40.785 --> 00:39:41.846
I'm like, I'm going to be a comedian.

682
00:39:41.866 --> 00:39:42.886
I'm going to be on TV.

683
00:39:43.427 --> 00:39:46.509
I promise you in a year, I'm going to make sure I'm on TV.

684
00:39:46.690 --> 00:39:50.573
And if I'm not, I told her this wild story of I'm going to kill myself.

685
00:39:51.542 --> 00:39:56.186
I said, if I don't become a comedian and I don't become a famous comedian on TV, I'm a kill myself.

686
00:39:56.866 --> 00:39:58.227
And she's like, don't say stuff like that.

687
00:39:58.247 --> 00:39:59.448
That is that is so dumb.

688
00:39:59.468 --> 00:40:01.130
I want you to go hard for whatever you're doing.

689
00:40:01.750 --> 00:40:05.453
But that is just why do you feel like it has to be comedy?

690
00:40:05.974 --> 00:40:09.417
And I was like, this is something that and I continue to break down everything like this is.

691
00:40:10.226 --> 00:40:11.566
what I've always wanted to be.

692
00:40:12.046 --> 00:40:15.987
And I had, it's almost like you had this great idea, but nobody sees the vision.

693
00:40:16.007 --> 00:40:19.528
So then I went to my grandparents, I told them the same vision that I had.

694
00:40:19.588 --> 00:40:20.828
They lived down the street from her.

695
00:40:21.268 --> 00:40:24.369
And they were like, this is so, what are you talking about?

696
00:40:24.389 --> 00:40:25.789
Go back to school, get your education.

697
00:40:25.809 --> 00:40:27.450
And then you do all that other stuff.

698
00:40:28.050 --> 00:40:33.271
Because they had the old school mindset of, they probably seen people that didn't go to school and they seen people that didn't go to school.

699
00:40:33.891 --> 00:40:35.474
People that did go to school get a job.

700
00:40:35.976 --> 00:40:39.202
People that didn't go to school became maybe crackheads in their era.

701
00:40:39.262 --> 00:40:39.703
I don't know.

702
00:40:40.425 --> 00:40:41.708
Or became failures in life.

703
00:40:41.728 --> 00:40:42.249
So they...

704
00:40:43.766 --> 00:40:47.508
they never really saw the good side of what is.

705
00:40:47.568 --> 00:40:57.374
And I was like, the 0.1% of people, maybe even less than 0.1% of people that are able to accomplish that after dropping out is very unlikely.

706
00:40:57.934 --> 00:41:01.176
So immediately when I told my grandparents, they were like, oh, no, no, no, no, no.

707
00:41:01.416 --> 00:41:02.977
They said, we know what's going to happen.

708
00:41:02.997 --> 00:41:03.997
You're going to drop out.

709
00:41:04.298 --> 00:41:05.878
You're going to be calling us, asking for money.

710
00:41:05.898 --> 00:41:09.680
Don't be calling our house and pulling up and you're going to be doing drugs.

711
00:41:09.700 --> 00:41:12.522
And I'm like, gosh, listen, I'm not going to be doing that.

712
00:41:12.862 --> 00:41:14.243
They're like, no, no, no, no.

713
00:41:14.263 --> 00:41:17.165
You know, your grandparents, black grandparents, they don't give a shit.

714
00:41:17.705 --> 00:41:20.547
They're like, don't be coming over here and bothering us.

715
00:41:20.587 --> 00:41:21.628
We know what's about to happen.

716
00:41:21.648 --> 00:41:23.189
Like, you're going to be a crackhead.

717
00:41:23.229 --> 00:41:25.551
And I'm like, listen, guys, I have a plan.

718
00:41:26.560 --> 00:41:28.441
And essentially, I didn't do it immediately.

719
00:41:28.821 --> 00:41:31.823
I started trying to work at Red Lobster.

720
00:41:31.903 --> 00:41:34.345
And then I worked at like a Longhorns.

721
00:41:34.405 --> 00:41:37.126
And I worked at Outback Steakhouse and McDonald's.

722
00:41:37.466 --> 00:41:40.628
I started to work jobs because it was like a quick money thing.

723
00:41:40.648 --> 00:41:44.450
And then I fell victim to being living in Atlanta where I was doing illegal stuff.

724
00:41:45.191 --> 00:41:50.674
And now I'm seeing myself go into this whirlwind of, damn, I came home to do this?

725
00:41:51.996 --> 00:41:52.496
Drug dealing.

726
00:41:52.997 --> 00:41:54.077
No, no.

727
00:41:55.838 --> 00:41:58.199
You said I leaked the stuff.

728
00:41:58.379 --> 00:42:05.823
No, in Atlanta, there's like a, it's like a scamming circle of where a lot of people fall victim to.

729
00:42:05.883 --> 00:42:11.146
It's like you can do quick, easy scams with banks or doing card scams, just stuff like that.

730
00:42:11.406 --> 00:42:12.447
And I never was a bad guy.

731
00:42:12.507 --> 00:42:14.968
I just, I felt like.

732
00:42:16.330 --> 00:42:19.172
that was an easier way to do it while I'm trying to pursue this stuff.

733
00:42:19.492 --> 00:42:22.934
But I felt like the karma of this stuff was weighing on me.

734
00:42:22.954 --> 00:42:25.856
It's like, Oh, I'm going to do, I'm going to try to pursue comedy while doing this.

735
00:42:25.916 --> 00:42:28.078
And it never worked out.

736
00:42:28.178 --> 00:42:29.218
I didn't even pursue it.

737
00:42:29.258 --> 00:42:31.080
I just was flirting with it.

738
00:42:31.100 --> 00:42:32.020
I was going back and forth.

739
00:42:32.040 --> 00:42:32.140
Yeah.

740
00:42:32.160 --> 00:42:35.102
I was just continued to flirt back and forth with the idea of it.

741
00:42:35.362 --> 00:42:45.389
And then it was the moment that we got arm robbed where I had a outer body feeling of, wow, wow,

742
00:42:46.485 --> 00:42:51.210
I came home to be in this predicament where I have a gun to my head now.

743
00:42:52.051 --> 00:42:55.054
And now it's like, how did I even get here?

744
00:42:55.534 --> 00:42:56.695
So let me rewind back.

745
00:42:58.117 --> 00:43:08.267
That was the last moment I said, okay, if I'm going to do anything, I'm going to become a comedian or die trying.

746
00:43:09.010 --> 00:43:09.410
That's it.

747
00:43:10.091 --> 00:43:11.531
I have no other outlet.

748
00:43:11.591 --> 00:43:20.476
Now I know once I saw the barrel of that gun being pointed at me and my friend at the time, it was a bad scamming situation gone left.

749
00:43:21.216 --> 00:43:27.920
That was the moment I noticed, OK, if I survive this, I am going to turn my life around.

750
00:43:29.041 --> 00:43:30.261
And I'm not going to go to a job.

751
00:43:30.681 --> 00:43:34.303
I'm not going to go back to my mom's house and try to say, oh, I'm doing this.

752
00:43:34.764 --> 00:43:37.285
I'm going to lock in actually do it.

753
00:43:38.686 --> 00:43:40.127
And from there on, I went home.

754
00:43:40.728 --> 00:43:43.010
I wrote all these goals down on a sheet of paper.

755
00:43:44.171 --> 00:43:48.615
And my mom, she was kind of in the mix of what happened a little bit too.

756
00:43:48.655 --> 00:43:53.359
She had heard, cause she saw me walking around the house being stressed out, I told her what's going on.

757
00:43:54.160 --> 00:43:57.162
And I wrote down all these goals because she would always say,

758
00:43:58.278 --> 00:44:00.619
You can't do anything without writing things down.

759
00:44:00.839 --> 00:44:02.599
Ever since I was a kid, she was like, you should write that down.

760
00:44:02.739 --> 00:44:04.080
If you want to remember something, write it down.

761
00:44:04.100 --> 00:44:04.480
Write it down.

762
00:44:04.500 --> 00:44:06.120
Do you remember what the goals were?

763
00:44:06.661 --> 00:44:09.662
The first one I ever wrote was, don't have a plan B.

764
00:44:10.682 --> 00:44:11.822
Your plan A will work.

765
00:44:13.183 --> 00:44:14.603
No plan B, your plan A will work.

766
00:44:15.283 --> 00:44:20.105
The second one I wrote was about... Was there about hosting a tour on there?

767
00:44:20.405 --> 00:44:20.865
Yeah, yeah.

768
00:44:20.945 --> 00:44:22.546
Hosting a tour was definitely on there.

769
00:44:23.386 --> 00:44:25.887
Hosting an awards evening?

770
00:44:25.907 --> 00:44:26.787
Yeah.

771
00:44:27.108 --> 00:44:28.728
Yeah, both of those was on there.

772
00:44:28.988 --> 00:44:29.769
I wrote down that.

773
00:44:29.789 --> 00:44:30.569
I wrote down being a comedian.

774
00:44:30.589 --> 00:44:32.829
I wrote down amongst a lot of other things.

775
00:44:33.169 --> 00:44:33.830
How do you know that?

776
00:44:33.870 --> 00:44:35.410
What is on there?

777
00:44:36.350 --> 00:44:37.090
How do you know that?

778
00:44:37.190 --> 00:44:37.911
That was on there.

779
00:44:37.971 --> 00:44:39.451
I haven't sent y'all a production.

780
00:44:41.291 --> 00:44:43.532
So we got this scamming thing we do where we can scam.

781
00:44:44.692 --> 00:44:45.532
Star in a major movie?

782
00:44:46.193 --> 00:44:47.453
Mm-hmm.

783
00:44:47.493 --> 00:44:47.833
For sure.

784
00:44:49.156 --> 00:44:50.157
All that is down there, man.

785
00:44:50.357 --> 00:44:51.758
And you were 23 at the time, roughly.

786
00:44:51.898 --> 00:44:52.878
Yes, 23.

787
00:44:53.018 --> 00:44:53.839
So what's happened then?

788
00:44:53.859 --> 00:44:55.380
So you left college at what age?

789
00:44:55.860 --> 00:44:58.061
I left college around 21, 22.

790
00:44:58.261 --> 00:44:58.461
Okay.

791
00:44:58.601 --> 00:45:01.623
In between 21, 22, I left college.

792
00:45:01.843 --> 00:45:03.084
So it's a year or two at home with your mom?

793
00:45:03.304 --> 00:45:03.964
Year and a half.

794
00:45:04.024 --> 00:45:07.787
I'll probably say a full year has been at home before all that transpired.

795
00:45:07.807 --> 00:45:09.788
I tried the jobs and tried the legal stuff.

796
00:45:09.808 --> 00:45:10.308
That didn't work.

797
00:45:10.768 --> 00:45:11.649
And now I'm here.

798
00:45:12.646 --> 00:45:15.467
and I start to actually do the things that I wrote down.

799
00:45:16.107 --> 00:45:18.088
What does that mean specifically?

800
00:45:18.208 --> 00:45:24.931
I think the first thing that happened after I wrote these goals down, the first thing that happened, everything was taken away.

801
00:45:25.091 --> 00:45:27.772
It felt like everything dropped out before it got good.

802
00:45:28.552 --> 00:45:28.972
Everything.

803
00:45:30.053 --> 00:45:32.194
I wrote down these goals, wrote the date on there.

804
00:45:32.714 --> 00:45:33.534
Boom, I'm doing it.

805
00:45:33.654 --> 00:45:35.475
I was like, all right, now I'm locked in.

806
00:45:35.515 --> 00:45:35.995
This is it.

807
00:45:36.415 --> 00:45:37.416
I'm all in.

808
00:45:37.456 --> 00:45:38.656
I have no other option.

809
00:45:39.256 --> 00:45:40.757
There's no other plan B, nothing.

810
00:45:41.573 --> 00:45:43.335
Immediately, my car gets repossessed.

811
00:45:45.897 --> 00:45:46.958
I'm like, yo, what the fuck?

812
00:45:47.578 --> 00:45:49.360
Now I can't travel and do nothing.

813
00:45:49.780 --> 00:45:58.948
So it's funny because it's like, as soon as you want to pursue all these things, everything has to come out.

814
00:45:59.088 --> 00:46:07.536
And it's confusing because most people never get a chance to see the real side of success because they quit.

815
00:46:08.495 --> 00:46:13.676
At that moment, that breaking point of everything falling out of your life, they're like, oh, my God, I done prayed for all this stuff.

816
00:46:14.016 --> 00:46:15.096
I done wrote everything down.

817
00:46:15.116 --> 00:46:17.917
I got this board of this mood board.

818
00:46:17.957 --> 00:46:18.637
I got everything.

819
00:46:18.897 --> 00:46:19.937
And then I'd lose this.

820
00:46:19.977 --> 00:46:21.818
And see, it don't work.

821
00:46:22.778 --> 00:46:24.638
But I knew I'm like, I'm going to keep going.

822
00:46:25.939 --> 00:46:26.879
I'm not going to stop here.

823
00:46:26.899 --> 00:46:28.919
I actually made that like a content piece.

824
00:46:29.219 --> 00:46:30.820
I recorded my car getting repossessed.

825
00:46:30.840 --> 00:46:32.520
And people were like, yo, what the hell are you posing this for?

826
00:46:32.880 --> 00:46:34.020
I was like, well, there it is.

827
00:46:34.861 --> 00:46:35.681
There she goes.

828
00:46:36.812 --> 00:46:37.952
But really I was sad as shit.

829
00:46:37.992 --> 00:46:39.293
I was like, damn, I got nothing.

830
00:46:39.573 --> 00:46:43.875
But I feared nothing because I'm like, I have nothing left.

831
00:46:44.235 --> 00:46:47.976
I'm sitting here in a room, no mattress.

832
00:46:48.417 --> 00:46:49.317
I'm laying on the floor.

833
00:46:49.337 --> 00:46:53.178
I'm using my little sister's blanket that she has as a blanket on the ground.

834
00:46:53.779 --> 00:46:55.199
I don't have any dressers in here.

835
00:46:55.219 --> 00:46:57.660
Like, you know when you go to college, your mom gives away all your shit.

836
00:46:58.080 --> 00:47:00.501
Like she sells it or she puts it in some warehouse.

837
00:47:01.062 --> 00:47:02.302
So I didn't have none of my stuff.

838
00:47:02.322 --> 00:47:04.063
I just was laying on the floor and I was like, hell.

839
00:47:04.823 --> 00:47:06.584
I had my car, but now that's gone.

840
00:47:06.725 --> 00:47:08.466
So what else could I lose?

841
00:47:08.526 --> 00:47:10.448
Like, my back's against the wall.

842
00:47:10.508 --> 00:47:12.789
I'm going to continue to keep pursuing, making videos.

843
00:47:12.809 --> 00:47:13.790
Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.

844
00:47:14.531 --> 00:47:15.211
And that's what I did.

845
00:47:15.231 --> 00:47:16.913
I continued to boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.

846
00:47:17.573 --> 00:47:18.534
I wasn't going to stop.

847
00:47:18.574 --> 00:47:23.398
And I was using my mom's house as essentially a movie set.

848
00:47:24.457 --> 00:47:26.418
I started to flip the couch upside down.

849
00:47:26.458 --> 00:47:31.642
I wanted to do a surveillance camera at the top left side of the room to make it look like I'm on First 48.

850
00:47:32.042 --> 00:47:33.984
I'm interviewing myself on a First 48 episode.

851
00:47:34.024 --> 00:47:35.425
Boom, that's one of the skits.

852
00:47:35.445 --> 00:47:41.029
I have another skit where I'm using this jacket that my mom had in the closet, and I'm putting that on.

853
00:47:41.069 --> 00:47:42.109
I'm acting like a news reporter.

854
00:47:42.149 --> 00:47:44.071
Fox 5 in the backyard.

855
00:47:44.131 --> 00:47:48.394
And I'm putting the phone cropped up on the trash can outside in the backyard.

856
00:47:48.874 --> 00:47:49.675
And my mom used to come home.

857
00:47:49.695 --> 00:47:50.916
She'd be like, what the fuck?

858
00:47:51.816 --> 00:48:08.014
are you doing she used to see the house in shambles but i gotta give it to her because she she stuck through it with me i would always give her these updates like i have 10k followers now i have 15k followers she's like okay so what does that mean did you make any money i'm like no but i have people watching

859
00:48:08.838 --> 00:48:10.240
And I was like, oh, I got 100K followers.

860
00:48:10.260 --> 00:48:10.921
Did you make any money yet?

861
00:48:11.021 --> 00:48:12.943
No, but people are watching.

862
00:48:13.924 --> 00:48:19.692
And I continuously just kept giving these updates as eventually I started to make money through promotion.

863
00:48:19.732 --> 00:48:24.177
I would promote people's music and their videos and throw it on my story.

864
00:48:24.237 --> 00:48:25.980
And I would do a full day of promotion.

865
00:48:26.020 --> 00:48:26.700
It would make me...

866
00:48:27.741 --> 00:48:32.085
a couple hundred dollars maybe, and that would be enough to maybe go out that night.

867
00:48:32.865 --> 00:48:37.329
It just wasn't anything real fulfilling, or I would help my mom with groceries.

868
00:48:37.509 --> 00:48:44.395
I would try to do things to make money, but it wasn't really making any real money at the time.

869
00:48:45.436 --> 00:48:46.937
And then I continued to keep building.

870
00:48:46.997 --> 00:48:52.622
So yeah, no, I think those early moments really shaped a lot for me.

871
00:48:53.432 --> 00:48:57.273
I mean, I've got a video here as well that I found.

872
00:48:57.934 --> 00:48:59.474
You can explain what this one is to me.

873
00:49:00.155 --> 00:49:01.355
Man, yeah, man.

874
00:49:01.415 --> 00:49:03.156
You know what the fuck going on, man.

875
00:49:03.176 --> 00:49:04.516
You're counting me out.

876
00:49:04.636 --> 00:49:06.477
I ain't nothing at the game.

877
00:49:06.517 --> 00:49:08.658
That was fresh off the scamming right there.

878
00:49:08.678 --> 00:49:09.558
Fresh off the scamming.

879
00:49:09.578 --> 00:49:10.198
Shot me out.

880
00:49:10.218 --> 00:49:12.159
Shot me out now.

881
00:49:12.259 --> 00:49:13.940
What's up when I got these lights?

882
00:49:14.600 --> 00:49:15.100
Shot me out.

883
00:49:15.320 --> 00:49:16.120
Got all this ice on.

884
00:49:16.381 --> 00:49:16.921
Shot me out.

885
00:49:17.461 --> 00:49:19.782
Yeah, ain't no going up like this now.

886
00:49:20.449 --> 00:49:23.231
That was actually my first video I ever posted on socials.

887
00:49:23.552 --> 00:49:23.732
Ever?

888
00:49:24.092 --> 00:49:24.292
Ever.

889
00:49:25.473 --> 00:49:26.274
First video ever.

890
00:49:26.294 --> 00:49:31.398
That's when Instagram first started the whole 15-second video post thing.

891
00:49:31.938 --> 00:49:35.441
You know, Vine was doing it for like six seconds, and I never was on that.

892
00:49:35.481 --> 00:49:39.985
And I came around, and it was like 15 seconds on Instagram you could post a video.

893
00:49:40.025 --> 00:49:45.429
And my friend, Chauncey, and now he's like my lead comedic writer.

894
00:49:46.230 --> 00:49:48.552
And he was like, bro, just go.

895
00:49:48.812 --> 00:49:49.693
Like, just post it.

896
00:49:50.013 --> 00:49:51.296
And I was like, this is kind of silly.

897
00:49:51.336 --> 00:49:54.203
I'm just acting like I had like, those are like $1 bills, bro.

898
00:49:54.443 --> 00:49:56.488
I was acting like I was fucking ones.

899
00:49:57.009 --> 00:49:58.633
And I'm just, and he was like, just posting.

900
00:49:58.673 --> 00:49:59.495
I think that guy like.

901
00:50:00.311 --> 00:50:03.873
maybe 80 comments, 60 or 70 comments, something like that.

902
00:50:03.893 --> 00:50:04.974
It was like hometown people.

903
00:50:06.014 --> 00:50:07.815
And they were just like, oh, my God, this is so funny.

904
00:50:07.856 --> 00:50:09.016
We see what you're doing.

905
00:50:09.136 --> 00:50:09.657
That's dope.

906
00:50:10.117 --> 00:50:10.937
Hopefully you do more.

907
00:50:10.977 --> 00:50:12.138
Like people were just supporting it.

908
00:50:12.478 --> 00:50:14.339
I was like, all right, well, I'm more creative than this.

909
00:50:14.379 --> 00:50:21.564
And I started to continuously become more and more creative because I was like, all right, I did that, but that's like silly stuff.

910
00:50:21.604 --> 00:50:22.964
I know what I'm capable of.

911
00:50:23.545 --> 00:50:26.447
But, yeah, that was the very first video I ever threw up.

912
00:50:27.428 --> 00:50:28.388
This one I found really interesting.

913
00:50:28.408 --> 00:50:29.269
I'm just going to play it first.

914
00:50:29.429 --> 00:50:31.649
Meek Mill's performed for us.

915
00:50:31.669 --> 00:50:32.409
Yes, bro.

916
00:50:32.449 --> 00:50:33.210
I'm telling you, no.

917
00:50:33.930 --> 00:50:35.550
Yo, Meek Mill's my f***ing one.

918
00:50:35.830 --> 00:50:37.411
I said, yo, meek Mill's on your level one day.

919
00:50:37.451 --> 00:50:37.871
Shut up.

920
00:50:37.891 --> 00:50:38.311
I hit you.

921
00:50:38.751 --> 00:50:39.451
I promise you.

922
00:50:39.871 --> 00:50:42.152
I told him and I said, yo, I'm going to be on your level one day.

923
00:50:43.172 --> 00:50:46.813
You're saying in that video that you're going to be on Meek Mill's level someday.

924
00:50:47.453 --> 00:50:48.914
And that you dapped him up and told him that.

925
00:50:50.074 --> 00:50:50.794
I lied about that.

926
00:50:50.854 --> 00:50:52.115
I did not dapp him up and tell him that.

927
00:50:52.215 --> 00:50:53.255
I saw him at a party.

928
00:50:54.287 --> 00:50:56.447
I was so influential.

929
00:50:56.728 --> 00:50:58.288
I shouted it over somebody.

930
00:50:58.688 --> 00:51:00.828
Like, yo, Meek, I'm a big fan, man.

931
00:51:00.868 --> 00:51:02.189
I'm going to be on your level someday.

932
00:51:02.469 --> 00:51:03.229
I didn't shake his hand.

933
00:51:03.329 --> 00:51:04.949
I was just chatting.

934
00:51:04.969 --> 00:51:11.711
But in our county, we have almost like what you would call like a hood legend, Lou Williams.

935
00:51:12.271 --> 00:51:13.731
He went to the same high school I went to.

936
00:51:13.771 --> 00:51:17.912
He made it to the NBA, played amongst a bunch of teams, six-man.

937
00:51:18.392 --> 00:51:19.112
You probably know him.

938
00:51:19.152 --> 00:51:21.373
Drake did a song about Lou Will.

939
00:51:22.073 --> 00:51:24.237
You know, balling out of Saugunet like Lululee.

940
00:51:24.518 --> 00:51:27.043
So he was almost like the hero to us.

941
00:51:27.504 --> 00:51:28.786
He would throw these parties.

942
00:51:30.365 --> 00:51:35.247
which were like essentially like, you know, have all these celebrities come to Gwinnett County.

943
00:51:35.527 --> 00:51:37.128
And at the time, Gwinnett County is not on the map.

944
00:51:37.168 --> 00:51:39.189
It's not like a known thing.

945
00:51:39.229 --> 00:51:41.890
Like we're just like a suburb outside of Atlanta.

946
00:51:42.331 --> 00:51:43.971
And he would have these celebrities come to these parties.

947
00:51:44.011 --> 00:51:48.053
And we would be able to go because we're locals in Gwinnett.

948
00:51:48.313 --> 00:51:49.934
So you would see all these celebrities.

949
00:51:49.974 --> 00:51:52.255
And I was like, wow, I would look at Lou Will's house.

950
00:51:52.275 --> 00:51:53.356
He's currently in the NBA.

951
00:51:53.416 --> 00:51:55.457
And I'm like, wow, this is insane.

952
00:51:55.837 --> 00:51:57.338
And Meek Mill came one night and I,

953
00:51:58.279 --> 00:52:00.566
I said I told him that, but I just shouted it.

954
00:52:00.647 --> 00:52:02.112
And he had a bunch of security with him.

955
00:52:02.132 --> 00:52:03.677
He didn't even let us over there, but...

956
00:52:04.359 --> 00:52:06.420
Yeah, I was, you could tell I was, man, I was...

957
00:52:07.060 --> 00:52:08.241
It's a kid manifesting in some way.

958
00:52:08.261 --> 00:52:09.341
Yeah, manifestation.

959
00:52:09.562 --> 00:52:12.503
And like, there was no stutter in my speech right there.

960
00:52:12.703 --> 00:52:15.545
I definitely felt that way about everything I was doing.

961
00:52:15.565 --> 00:52:22.608
And I probably have said a lot of things around that time that probably weren't recorded where I was very, like, trying to pursue greatness.

962
00:52:22.708 --> 00:52:26.890
I've always been a big fan of pursuing greatness my entire life.

963
00:52:26.950 --> 00:52:28.191
I never wanted to just be good.

964
00:52:28.211 --> 00:52:29.251
I always wanted to be great.

965
00:52:29.912 --> 00:52:30.312
Yeah.

966
00:52:31.065 --> 00:52:33.006
So yeah, that just shows right there.

967
00:52:33.386 --> 00:52:35.608
I'm surprised one of my friends, he still had that clip.

968
00:52:35.628 --> 00:52:37.909
He sent it to me and I posted it.

969
00:52:37.929 --> 00:52:38.169
Yeah.

970
00:52:38.469 --> 00:52:42.372
The thing I find interesting generally is in that situation, look at that context.

971
00:52:42.392 --> 00:52:43.192
You're in your mother's house.

972
00:52:43.212 --> 00:52:49.836
You're using the front room and a blanket as both your bed and also your sort of creative studio.

973
00:52:50.577 --> 00:52:53.218
Objectively in that situation, the odds are stacked against you.

974
00:52:53.578 --> 00:52:59.142
But in your head, you're thinking, I'm either going to be great or in your words, I'm going to kill myself.

975
00:52:59.682 --> 00:53:01.284
Yeah, it was a little far.

976
00:53:01.664 --> 00:53:02.285
A little far?

977
00:53:02.305 --> 00:53:02.745
A little far.

978
00:53:02.765 --> 00:53:04.807
When you said that, what did you actually mean?

979
00:53:05.648 --> 00:53:06.248
What did you mean?

980
00:53:06.268 --> 00:53:08.791
I felt like I... You meant it.

981
00:53:09.551 --> 00:53:10.793
I was... Tell me your question.

982
00:53:11.273 --> 00:53:11.994
You know what it was?

983
00:53:12.154 --> 00:53:13.015
I was so...

984
00:53:15.345 --> 00:53:18.946
I was chasing being great.

985
00:53:19.426 --> 00:53:26.948
And that might've been far-fetched in me to say something as wild as that, but that's honestly how I felt.

986
00:53:27.368 --> 00:53:33.069
Like I was going to make it happen or I was gonna perceive myself as a failure.

987
00:53:33.210 --> 00:53:34.530
I didn't see anything

988
00:53:35.632 --> 00:53:39.555
I saw nothing else but a green light down this tunnel.

989
00:53:39.615 --> 00:53:40.515
I saw nothing.

990
00:53:42.116 --> 00:53:44.138
I knew in the back of my mind what I was capable of.

991
00:53:44.158 --> 00:53:44.678
I already knew.

992
00:53:45.319 --> 00:53:48.721
I felt like my entire life I knew, but I just didn't put the pieces together.

993
00:53:49.754 --> 00:53:59.337
But when I told my mom that, I knew I said, okay, I have committed to something that I know there is no possible in or out.

994
00:53:59.837 --> 00:54:02.759
I'm going to do this or die trying.

995
00:54:03.119 --> 00:54:07.380
Truthfully, you know, like I feel like I'm either going to do this or I'm not.

996
00:54:07.900 --> 00:54:08.941
And I'm going to make it happen.

997
00:54:09.281 --> 00:54:10.541
So I knew I wasn't going to kill myself.

998
00:54:10.661 --> 00:54:13.062
Essentially, I knew I'm not going to kill myself.

999
00:54:13.142 --> 00:54:13.782
Because you believe.

1000
00:54:13.842 --> 00:54:15.543
Because I believe I'm going to do it.

1001
00:54:16.043 --> 00:54:18.564
But if I don't, I'm out of here.

1002
00:54:23.268 --> 00:54:24.950
Sounds crazy, but it's true.

1003
00:54:25.170 --> 00:54:26.511
Sounds crazy, but it's true, man.

1004
00:54:26.591 --> 00:54:29.033
That's how much belief I had in myself.

1005
00:54:29.073 --> 00:54:32.676
And that's how I felt like with my back against the wall.

1006
00:54:33.076 --> 00:54:33.697
Like I really did.

1007
00:54:35.822 --> 00:54:36.883
want to do it that bad.

1008
00:54:36.943 --> 00:54:41.426
And still, I do feel the same about achieving greatness.

1009
00:54:41.887 --> 00:54:44.649
I don't tend to like things that are just good.

1010
00:54:45.469 --> 00:54:47.411
And people are like, oh my God, I became rich.

1011
00:54:48.091 --> 00:54:48.712
I'm good, man.

1012
00:54:48.732 --> 00:54:49.352
I'm going on vacation.

1013
00:54:49.933 --> 00:54:51.694
I don't do any vacationing.

1014
00:54:53.435 --> 00:54:54.836
I find it soothing to be

1015
00:54:55.757 --> 00:55:02.699
in a chaos situation of work and juggling multiple projects at once, like, that is what I want to do.

1016
00:55:02.719 --> 00:55:04.179
This is what I got into it for.

1017
00:55:04.839 --> 00:55:07.120
So that's my full goal, yeah.

1018
00:55:07.380 --> 00:55:17.842
And when you look back on that season of life where you first moved home with your mom, as a 31-year-old now, what has it taught you about what it takes to be successful broadly?

1019
00:55:17.922 --> 00:55:20.063
Again, remove luck from the equation.

1020
00:55:20.083 --> 00:55:22.963
Let's remove some people getting fortunate with lottery tickets,

1021
00:55:26.104 --> 00:55:31.187
what it takes to be successful in the pursuit of a goal like that, where to be honest, not many people ever make any money.

1022
00:55:31.647 --> 00:55:37.930
The odds of you being successful as a comedian defined, let's define the nonsense as making, being able to provide for yourself and a family.

1023
00:55:37.950 --> 00:55:39.730
It's crazy odds.

1024
00:55:40.011 --> 00:55:42.812
But the thing is most people don't really want to be great.

1025
00:55:43.568 --> 00:55:45.829
Most people just say it because it sounds good.

1026
00:55:45.849 --> 00:55:48.750
Like I would be around a lot of guys and be like, yo, let's do it.

1027
00:55:48.770 --> 00:55:49.611
Let's wake up in the morning.

1028
00:55:49.631 --> 00:55:51.351
Let's and it would just fall out.

1029
00:55:51.391 --> 00:55:53.632
Everybody eventually just goes away.

1030
00:55:53.672 --> 00:55:56.074
Everybody that said they were going to do it, they do it one day.

1031
00:55:56.434 --> 00:55:58.655
They're not showing up the third or the second day.

1032
00:55:58.835 --> 00:56:01.316
Nobody nobody shows up continuously for the work.

1033
00:56:01.916 --> 00:56:07.779
And once I notice there's a small amount of people that are showing up for the actual work of anything.

1034
00:56:08.951 --> 00:56:12.673
It just showed me that, okay, I'm in a lane of this of my own.

1035
00:56:12.693 --> 00:56:17.635
I'm pursuing something that most people say, but they're not really trying to pursue.

1036
00:56:18.216 --> 00:56:19.556
Everybody wants to be number one.

1037
00:56:19.576 --> 00:56:20.677
You want to be the top of the list.

1038
00:56:20.737 --> 00:56:22.118
Everybody wants to be the top of the list.

1039
00:56:22.638 --> 00:56:24.019
But nobody really wants to do the work.

1040
00:56:24.039 --> 00:56:29.621
Nobody's obsessed with it continuously every day and night, having dreams about it.

1041
00:56:30.042 --> 00:56:32.743
Nobody's sitting and editing with their editors anymore.

1042
00:56:34.058 --> 00:56:37.521
18 hours plus of like just sitting, looking at clips.

1043
00:56:37.561 --> 00:56:42.926
Nobody's going and doing tours while trying to continuously film a TV show.

1044
00:56:43.406 --> 00:56:45.028
Could have been love in the middle of that tour.

1045
00:56:45.068 --> 00:56:49.592
Nobody's trying to also shoot a movie like right now.

1046
00:56:49.612 --> 00:56:56.297
We're shooting with universal, the catch with Emma stone, Chris Pine, but also still trying to fulfill my social media presence.

1047
00:56:56.317 --> 00:56:56.618
Yeah.

1048
00:56:57.038 --> 00:57:00.299
I'm trying to juggle all these things in one because I want to be great.

1049
00:57:00.339 --> 00:57:03.980
I don't want to just do it and be like, okay, I'm going to take some time off.

1050
00:57:04.460 --> 00:57:07.141
No, I really want to be number one.

1051
00:57:07.982 --> 00:57:12.303
I'm not really falling victim to being okay with being cool with number two or three.

1052
00:57:12.323 --> 00:57:15.764
And I joke about it all the time because one of my favorite movies is Talladega Nights.

1053
00:57:15.864 --> 00:57:20.546
And Ricky Bobby said, if you ain't first, you're last.

1054
00:57:20.846 --> 00:57:22.606
And me and my family joke about it all the time.

1055
00:57:22.646 --> 00:57:23.126
We laugh about it.

1056
00:57:23.146 --> 00:57:24.527
But I kind of took that...

1057
00:57:25.322 --> 00:57:48.204
vision seriously because that's really how I live my life and that's really how I feel because what else could be other than wanting to be number one what happens when you become number one you still got to keep pushing the mouse because somebody's chasing there's somebody coming somebody's on the way so I feel like the journey never ends because you're always continuously chasing

1058
00:57:49.976 --> 00:57:54.437
You know, if it's not the people before you, it's trying to continue to set the bar high for the people behind you.

1059
00:57:54.817 --> 00:57:55.057
Yeah.

1060
00:57:55.397 --> 00:57:55.617
So.

1061
00:57:56.398 --> 00:57:59.358
And what does being great mean in your definition of the word?

1062
00:57:59.378 --> 00:58:02.319
Like if I said, because, you know, you said that you stated that the goal is to be great.

1063
00:58:03.019 --> 00:58:04.639
How would you know you've become great?

1064
00:58:05.280 --> 00:58:09.301
I think being great has a lot of different meanings.

1065
00:58:09.481 --> 00:58:14.662
It doesn't have a money value or a certain touring value.

1066
00:58:20.784 --> 00:58:23.206
how far you're willing to set the bar.

1067
00:58:24.007 --> 00:58:26.049
There's always people before you that have done great things.

1068
00:58:26.069 --> 00:58:30.633
You got Eddie Murphy that has set the bar fucking way up here.

1069
00:58:30.653 --> 00:58:34.337
Then you got Kevin Hart that's fucking damn near where Eddie's at.

1070
00:58:34.917 --> 00:58:35.938
And he looks very healthy.

1071
00:58:35.958 --> 00:58:36.679
He looks like he might...

1072
00:58:37.665 --> 00:58:38.806
Take it further than Eddie.

1073
00:58:38.846 --> 00:58:39.407
Who knows?

1074
00:58:39.527 --> 00:58:40.088
I don't know.

1075
00:58:40.809 --> 00:58:46.015
But there's always somebody gaining on that right behind the greats before you.

1076
00:58:46.035 --> 00:58:47.677
It's the same with Kobe, Jordan, LeBron.

1077
00:58:48.898 --> 00:58:51.261
Somebody's going to continuously keep setting the ball higher.

1078
00:58:51.281 --> 00:58:54.385
So it's like we're all trying to just –

1079
00:58:55.505 --> 00:58:57.226
leave a legacy, sort of say.

1080
00:58:57.246 --> 00:58:59.067
Like, I think that's what we're all trying to do.

1081
00:58:59.247 --> 00:59:00.828
And you want to be in that conversation.

1082
00:59:00.869 --> 00:59:02.329
You want to be in that conversation.

1083
00:59:02.369 --> 00:59:06.992
When it's all said and done, I would love to be in that conversation.

1084
00:59:07.493 --> 00:59:09.814
It's not saying I want to be surpassed.

1085
00:59:10.315 --> 00:59:11.856
We all want to surpass great things.

1086
00:59:11.936 --> 00:59:12.476
We all do.

1087
00:59:13.377 --> 00:59:18.100
But just to be in that conversation and to be remembered and to leave a legacy, that's what matters.

1088
00:59:18.846 --> 00:59:28.370
One of the things that I've observed with people that go in the pursuit of greatness and achieve it is just they have a different level of patience and they have a longer time horizon.

1089
00:59:28.630 --> 00:59:34.653
Because with Eddie, with Kevin, it takes a lot of lonely, lonely years, decades sometimes.

1090
00:59:34.713 --> 00:59:40.415
I've sat here with the greatest illusionist in the world and he told me that he spent 10 years doing card tricks on restaurant tables.

1091
00:59:40.816 --> 00:59:42.196
And you go, what a crazy fucking thing to do.

1092
00:59:43.157 --> 00:59:43.917
Or like this other...

1093
00:59:44.117 --> 00:59:45.978
I mean, even Jimmy Carter said to me, he dropped out of...

1094
00:59:46.478 --> 00:59:52.342
his great job, I believe it was in marketing, and spent five, six years getting paid absolutely nothing, just cracking jokes in pubs and stuff.

1095
00:59:52.802 --> 00:59:58.465
And you're like, what sane person would take that trade?

1096
00:59:58.645 --> 00:59:58.846
Yeah.

1097
00:59:59.426 --> 01:00:03.648
When I zoom back into where you were in your mother's house, how long was it?

1098
01:00:03.728 --> 01:00:09.012
How, from that, I guess from university, from college, to the moment where you go, actually, Chip, this is...

1099
01:00:10.120 --> 01:00:13.822
This might be able to pay my way so I can move out.

1100
01:00:14.022 --> 01:00:15.223
How long was that period of time?

1101
01:00:15.943 --> 01:00:16.684
Years, man.

1102
01:00:17.044 --> 01:00:18.084
Honestly, years.

1103
01:00:18.124 --> 01:00:20.886
We're talking like years of seeing nothing.

1104
01:00:20.906 --> 01:00:22.287
And I think people don't see that.

1105
01:00:22.367 --> 01:00:26.249
People see with social media, there's a bunch of quick...

1106
01:00:26.889 --> 01:00:31.071
reaction to things and people like, oh my God, this person, oh, they went viral for that.

1107
01:00:31.251 --> 01:00:31.711
Oh my God.

1108
01:00:32.471 --> 01:00:33.392
Now, what can I do with this?

1109
01:00:33.412 --> 01:00:35.712
People always worried about, oh, I'm going to take this thing.

1110
01:00:35.912 --> 01:00:37.133
I did this video or I did.

1111
01:00:37.573 --> 01:00:39.554
And now I'm trying to, I'm going to go get a team.

1112
01:00:39.594 --> 01:00:40.434
I'm going to go.

1113
01:00:40.454 --> 01:00:41.435
It's like, what are you doing?

1114
01:00:41.455 --> 01:00:42.975
You don't need a fucking team.

1115
01:00:43.075 --> 01:00:43.835
Keep grinding.

1116
01:00:43.875 --> 01:00:44.656
Do it again.

1117
01:00:45.376 --> 01:00:46.516
Do it again, man.

1118
01:00:46.617 --> 01:00:49.878
And, and, and when you're trying to be great, you never get a chance to celebrate

1119
01:00:50.578 --> 01:00:51.598
the things that you have done.

1120
01:00:51.618 --> 01:00:55.260
You almost don't feel in the moment because you're looking for the, what's the next thing?

1121
01:00:55.880 --> 01:00:59.401
And I kind of give credit of that because I do the same thing, I do it all the time.

1122
01:00:59.561 --> 01:01:07.744
We did the BET Awards and the next day I was already flying to go shoot my TV show, Collecting Praise, with Mike Epps that we just shot.

1123
01:01:07.764 --> 01:01:12.306
I had somebody in the congregation ask why I'm wearing Christian Dior and Christian Louboutins.

1124
01:01:13.406 --> 01:01:17.227
Cause I'm a Christian and I walk in the blood of Jesus.

1125
01:01:17.788 --> 01:01:18.748
Give him some praise.

1126
01:01:21.375 --> 01:01:24.997
Immediately, the next day, we almost, I didn't even get a chance to take it in.

1127
01:01:25.037 --> 01:01:27.758
I'm like, oh my God, I just did a BET Awards, something I always want to do in my life.

1128
01:01:28.138 --> 01:01:29.839
Boom, I'm on the plane, I'm at the next thing.

1129
01:01:30.579 --> 01:01:34.221
Immediately after I do Collect and Praise, we shot that for two weeks, back to back.

1130
01:01:34.821 --> 01:01:37.562
Boom, on a plane the next day after the final day of that.

1131
01:01:37.582 --> 01:01:39.903
We're all clapping, everything, on a plane.

1132
01:01:40.204 --> 01:01:43.185
Next day, we're shooting the catch with Emma Stone and Chris Pine.

1133
01:01:44.125 --> 01:01:45.106
The next day.

1134
01:01:45.646 --> 01:01:47.507
So it's like, you never really get a chance

1135
01:01:48.842 --> 01:01:53.265
to take a lot of these things in because you're continuously progressing, progressing, progressing.

1136
01:01:53.565 --> 01:02:02.131
And my mom would always, I feel like she influenced me to be like that because I would come home from school all the time and be like, Oh, I got a, I'll be on this test.

1137
01:02:02.151 --> 01:02:03.192
She's like, Oh, you could have done better.

1138
01:02:04.141 --> 01:02:05.842
Or I'd be like, oh, I did this.

1139
01:02:06.022 --> 01:02:10.444
At school, they told me I was... Oh, come on, you could have done better on that.

1140
01:02:12.064 --> 01:02:15.526
Not like it's not enough, but it's like you always can do better.

1141
01:02:15.546 --> 01:02:17.707
Even if you got an A on this, why did you get an A plus?

1142
01:02:17.967 --> 01:02:19.527
Do you want to be a dad yourself?

1143
01:02:20.008 --> 01:02:20.948
Yeah, yeah, for sure.

1144
01:02:21.168 --> 01:02:21.508
Of course.

1145
01:02:21.568 --> 01:02:23.029
Where's that going to fit in this crazy life?

1146
01:02:23.649 --> 01:02:24.830
We have no idea.

1147
01:02:24.910 --> 01:02:29.732
That's... We gotta find a wife first, bro.

1148
01:02:29.872 --> 01:02:32.213
I'm trying to find love first, bro.

1149
01:02:32.293 --> 01:02:33.154
I have no idea.

1150
01:02:33.174 --> 01:02:44.519
No, but I think both of my parents, they both did that same shit of like, I would bring my dad math equations and him being a pilot, he would break it down in crazy ways of like,

1151
01:02:45.666 --> 01:02:46.306
What the fuck?

1152
01:02:46.326 --> 01:02:47.867
Like I would say, oh, this is division.

1153
01:02:47.907 --> 01:02:48.748
Could you help me with this?

1154
01:02:49.328 --> 01:02:53.991
And he'll take 40 minutes to be like, oh, you answered it, but you could have done the long division this way.

1155
01:02:54.511 --> 01:02:58.333
Okay, let me tell you, MX times BX squared.

1156
01:02:58.513 --> 01:03:00.734
You could get this answer reversed.

1157
01:03:00.834 --> 01:03:01.735
Let's reverse this answer.

1158
01:03:01.755 --> 01:03:03.416
If you get this, you get it multiple different ways.

1159
01:03:03.656 --> 01:03:05.097
So I'd be like, yo, what the hell, bro?

1160
01:03:05.117 --> 01:03:07.758
I just brought you a simple division equation.

1161
01:03:08.078 --> 01:03:11.360
Why did you make it long division and then go into MX times BX squared?

1162
01:03:11.720 --> 01:03:12.921
But these are my parents though.

1163
01:03:13.121 --> 01:03:14.602
They're always looking for the...

1164
01:03:15.342 --> 01:03:23.608
greater thing always, no matter what it was, even if it was academics, you could have done better or you could have gotten it a different way or there's other routes to get to it.

1165
01:03:24.028 --> 01:03:29.932
It was almost never a correct answer in my household because there's different ways you could find an answer to anything.

1166
01:03:30.312 --> 01:03:33.895
So imagine what that does to my mind of, damn,

1167
01:03:34.805 --> 01:03:37.167
I've got to find a way and not just in one way.

1168
01:03:37.187 --> 01:03:38.828
I got to find it in multiple different ways.

1169
01:03:39.389 --> 01:03:44.252
So when I do my type of comedy, I never sit on doing one thing.

1170
01:03:44.312 --> 01:03:49.276
If I do one thing that's amazing, I'll come back and hit another situation.

1171
01:03:49.376 --> 01:03:50.978
I'll hit another situation.

1172
01:03:50.998 --> 01:03:52.419
I'm going to be funny in this way too.

1173
01:03:52.439 --> 01:03:53.680
I'm not just going to be funny in this way.

1174
01:03:53.700 --> 01:03:55.761
I can also be funny at a live show.

1175
01:03:56.222 --> 01:03:58.323
I can also be funny in a sketch version.

1176
01:03:58.423 --> 01:03:59.524
I can also be funny in a movie.

1177
01:04:00.025 --> 01:04:01.326
I can also be funny on a TV show.

1178
01:04:01.346 --> 01:04:02.647
I can also be funny in a commercial.

1179
01:04:03.207 --> 01:04:04.448
You see a T-Mobile commercial.

1180
01:04:04.468 --> 01:04:07.811
You see Drewski's face on it with Zoe Zaldana and Jeff Bridges.

1181
01:04:08.251 --> 01:04:10.753
Why the fuck is Drewski on here with Zoe Zaldana and Jeff Bridges?

1182
01:04:11.153 --> 01:04:11.574
I don't know.

1183
01:04:12.274 --> 01:04:13.175
But it works.

1184
01:04:13.395 --> 01:04:15.657
It's a comedic relief of this commercial.

1185
01:04:15.677 --> 01:04:24.904
But I feel like my life has gone in that direction because of these upbringings, of these teachings that both of my parents had set for us.

1186
01:04:25.865 --> 01:04:36.833
Listen, I've been catfished by furniture my whole life, where something has looked fantastic in the picture, whether it's a sofa, whatever it might be, and I order it and I get so excited and then it comes and it's something entirely different.

1187
01:04:37.253 --> 01:04:43.578
The quality was significantly different to what it said or looks like online, or the texture was different, or...

1188
01:04:43.978 --> 01:04:46.119
or it didn't hold up in the same way.

1189
01:04:46.219 --> 01:04:55.304
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1190
01:04:55.465 --> 01:04:57.806
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1191
01:04:57.986 --> 01:05:01.148
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1192
01:05:01.708 --> 01:05:05.853
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1193
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1194
01:05:15.303 --> 01:05:16.184
It is amazing.

1195
01:05:17.145 --> 01:05:21.708
There should be a button just down below here and if it says subscribe you're already subscribed.

1196
01:05:21.788 --> 01:05:33.114
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1197
01:05:33.254 --> 01:05:42.119
Thank you so much Was there a first check or first opportunity that you really like wanted to tell your mom about because this was kind of proof that You were right

1198
01:05:43.745 --> 01:05:45.606
Or was there a moment at all?

1199
01:05:46.407 --> 01:05:49.969
I think you're saying like a big check moment.

1200
01:05:50.230 --> 01:05:54.713
You know, like one of those moments an opportunity comes in and you can't wait to tell your mom because suddenly you were right.

1201
01:05:55.153 --> 01:05:58.015
Yeah, well, I had one moment.

1202
01:05:58.055 --> 01:06:00.337
I went like quote unquote at the time.

1203
01:06:01.277 --> 01:06:04.019
It might have been 2022.

1204
01:06:04.059 --> 01:06:06.901
I kind of after COVID died down.

1205
01:06:07.562 --> 01:06:08.962
I was gaining a little bit more.

1206
01:06:10.039 --> 01:06:11.239
traction everywhere.

1207
01:06:11.279 --> 01:06:16.360
And I had told her that a celebrity had posted me and I was so excited.

1208
01:06:16.380 --> 01:06:17.921
I was like, Oh my God, a celebrity posted me.

1209
01:06:18.281 --> 01:06:19.101
And she was like, Oh my God.

1210
01:06:19.121 --> 01:06:21.742
She was like, so, so it seems like, so what happens now?

1211
01:06:21.762 --> 01:06:22.742
Did they, did they tag you in it?

1212
01:06:22.762 --> 01:06:23.422
Do people follow you?

1213
01:06:23.682 --> 01:06:24.622
I was like, no, they didn't tag me.

1214
01:06:24.662 --> 01:06:26.543
It's just, they just posted the video.

1215
01:06:26.983 --> 01:06:28.703
She's like, like, is there opportunity?

1216
01:06:28.723 --> 01:06:29.964
Like, are you going to shoot like a video?

1217
01:06:29.984 --> 01:06:30.984
Are you doing anything with them?

1218
01:06:31.484 --> 01:06:32.144
I was like, nah, nah, nah.

1219
01:06:32.164 --> 01:06:34.805
They just, they just reposted my video.

1220
01:06:35.565 --> 01:06:35.865
It's like,

1221
01:06:37.005 --> 01:06:37.345
Now what?

1222
01:06:37.406 --> 01:06:39.027
And I'm like, well, I'm back to square one.

1223
01:06:39.047 --> 01:06:40.229
It's just like, yeah.

1224
01:06:40.469 --> 01:06:42.692
My parents were big on breaking things down.

1225
01:06:43.232 --> 01:06:45.094
So you feel never really fulfilled.

1226
01:06:45.495 --> 01:06:53.084
You don't feel fulfilled with anything because you are always trying to figure out, okay, this opportunity is great, but what's next?

1227
01:06:53.204 --> 01:06:54.786
Do you feel fulfilled with your work now?

1228
01:06:55.146 --> 01:06:56.588
No, not yet.

1229
01:06:57.772 --> 01:06:58.233
Too young.

1230
01:06:58.593 --> 01:07:00.255
It's too much more to go, man.

1231
01:07:00.415 --> 01:07:01.256
Way too much.

1232
01:07:01.817 --> 01:07:02.918
Look what Jim Carrey did.

1233
01:07:02.938 --> 01:07:04.280
Look at Eddie Murphy, man.

1234
01:07:04.300 --> 01:07:06.923
Look what Chris Farley has achieved.

1235
01:07:06.963 --> 01:07:08.064
Adam Sandler, man.

1236
01:07:08.104 --> 01:07:11.048
These guys are fucking... Are you happy, though?

1237
01:07:11.068 --> 01:07:11.669
I'm very happy.

1238
01:07:11.809 --> 01:07:12.329
I'm very happy.

1239
01:07:12.670 --> 01:07:13.951
But fulfilled?

1240
01:07:14.152 --> 01:07:14.332
No.

1241
01:07:15.670 --> 01:07:16.691
I have so much more.

1242
01:07:17.251 --> 01:07:19.913
Is it not possible to be fulfilled and also to be in pursuit?

1243
01:07:20.393 --> 01:07:22.855
Is there a way you're saying to be both?

1244
01:07:23.055 --> 01:07:23.295
Yeah.

1245
01:07:23.315 --> 01:07:24.296
Like to be fulfilled with.

1246
01:07:24.316 --> 01:07:26.717
No, your hunger has to always continue to live.

1247
01:07:26.958 --> 01:07:27.898
Any, anybody that's.

1248
01:07:28.318 --> 01:07:31.741
You look at me like nice try.

1249
01:07:32.041 --> 01:07:36.164
Anybody that is pursuing greatness will never tell you that the hunger has stopped.

1250
01:07:36.224 --> 01:07:37.625
It has to continue to keep going.

1251
01:07:37.645 --> 01:07:39.426
There's, there's no way, no way, man.

1252
01:07:40.126 --> 01:07:43.489
So closing off in this period of your life where you're still at your mom's house,

1253
01:07:44.632 --> 01:07:45.452
When did that change?

1254
01:07:46.493 --> 01:07:48.234
What was the moment where you were like, sure, I can leave now?

1255
01:07:48.674 --> 01:07:55.637
Well, I had all my clothes stacked in the living room because people started to send me so many merch clothes.

1256
01:07:55.657 --> 01:07:59.759
You know, when you become, you know, at the time, like everybody's an influencer.

1257
01:07:59.819 --> 01:08:05.362
They would send influencers all type of loads of clothes so they want you to wear it in your next video or whatever you're doing.

1258
01:08:05.762 --> 01:08:07.943
So I had all these clothes stacked up

1259
01:08:08.383 --> 01:08:09.983
in her like dining room area.

1260
01:08:10.003 --> 01:08:10.683
I wouldn't even say living room.

1261
01:08:10.703 --> 01:08:12.444
It was like the dining room in the front of the house.

1262
01:08:12.904 --> 01:08:22.566
And I started to kind of make some money to where I was like, all right, maybe I need to find like an apartment now that now that I have some type of money I can actually get out of here.

1263
01:08:22.806 --> 01:08:28.967
But I think me crowding up that dining room, I started to notice, okay, now I can kind of live on my own.

1264
01:08:29.007 --> 01:08:35.628
But it wasn't until I started to actually, the thing that changed my life at the time

1265
01:08:36.922 --> 01:08:41.800
was drake calling for the laugh now cry later music video

1266
01:08:42.795 --> 01:08:46.697
Everything shifted after that because brands started to take me seriously.

1267
01:08:46.717 --> 01:08:54.242
It wasn't no more sending free merch and, oh, you get this, or we'll bring you out to this event, and we just want your appearance, and you can get in free.

1268
01:08:54.842 --> 01:08:56.803
Now it's transactional with everything.

1269
01:08:57.584 --> 01:09:08.050
Once I was seen on a higher level with, you know, Dragus, I think at the time it was Lil Durk, we had Marshawn Lynch, Kevin Durant,

1270
01:09:08.650 --> 01:09:11.172
Odell Beckham Jr. all in this video alongside with me.

1271
01:09:11.853 --> 01:09:19.900
And me being the comedic relief in this video, which was called Laugh Now, Cry Later, this meant a lot more than just another music video.

1272
01:09:20.320 --> 01:09:22.502
Where were you when you found that out that he had called?

1273
01:09:23.023 --> 01:09:28.328
No, he just was a big fan of a lot of the stuff I was posting during that early time.

1274
01:09:28.368 --> 01:09:31.751
But it wasn't until then, no real money was coming in.

1275
01:09:32.191 --> 01:09:32.932
No money at all.

1276
01:09:33.863 --> 01:09:40.209
But that shifted everything because brands started to see me in a broader light.

1277
01:09:41.430 --> 01:09:51.139
And they started to see me as an actual star, so to say, instead of just another amongst all these other guys who are doing comedic things.

1278
01:09:51.399 --> 01:09:54.382
But were you speaking to him directly on DMs or something?

1279
01:09:54.402 --> 01:09:57.665
It was just all through DM at the time up until I met him.

1280
01:09:57.705 --> 01:09:59.107
But yeah, all that was like...

1281
01:10:00.022 --> 01:10:06.150
It was very just short back and forth, laughing at this video, laughing at that video, finding this funny, finding that funny.

1282
01:10:06.170 --> 01:10:11.717
And then we had a long conversation once he told me that I would be starring in that music video.

1283
01:10:11.737 --> 01:10:17.844
And that was just about leading this generation of comedy and just what I am to...

1284
01:10:18.858 --> 01:10:20.359
you know, the world at the time.

1285
01:10:20.479 --> 01:10:22.000
And then I'm hearing his words.

1286
01:10:22.041 --> 01:10:24.082
I'm like, yo, maybe this dude's just gassing me up.

1287
01:10:24.522 --> 01:10:31.048
This is wild to hear from somebody who is, in my eyes, a full-blown superstar, megastar.

1288
01:10:31.888 --> 01:10:36.712
But, yeah, that's one of those things is just, like, could never repay him, man.

1289
01:10:36.732 --> 01:10:44.238
Like, that was to take a chance on me at the time just doing silly stuff of what I thought was great.

1290
01:10:45.261 --> 01:10:51.423
But at the time, it was so, looking back, I've had great stuff, but it's like so minimal to what I do now.

1291
01:10:51.523 --> 01:10:55.724
It's like, I can't believe he took a chance, you know, on me in that circumstance.

1292
01:10:55.744 --> 01:10:57.024
But it shifted everything.

1293
01:10:57.424 --> 01:10:58.724
It shifted everything almost immediately.

1294
01:10:59.325 --> 01:11:00.385
Almost immediately, yeah.

1295
01:11:00.465 --> 01:11:07.047
I think it was almost more of a seriousness that people took me more than just showing up for things.

1296
01:11:08.187 --> 01:11:12.488
You know, the transactional conversation started to go into play.

1297
01:11:13.155 --> 01:11:19.098
when you look back on your arc and you hear about other people's journeys and arcs, what else have you learned about, again, what it takes?

1298
01:11:19.118 --> 01:11:21.599
There's the obsession, there's the dedication, there's the hours.

1299
01:11:21.959 --> 01:11:23.980
What about like the business part?

1300
01:11:24.000 --> 01:11:25.501
Like how do you climb ladders?

1301
01:11:25.621 --> 01:11:26.341
Is it people?

1302
01:11:26.401 --> 01:11:28.082
Is it knowing a guy?

1303
01:11:28.102 --> 01:11:29.282
It's all relationships.

1304
01:11:30.323 --> 01:11:35.565
Even in the biggest buildings, majority of it is relationships.

1305
01:11:35.785 --> 01:11:41.088
Of course, your talent weighs a lot, but relationships are very much key.

1306
01:11:41.108 --> 01:11:41.228
Yeah.

1307
01:11:41.978 --> 01:11:44.822
What does that mean for someone that has no idea what goes on in these buildings?

1308
01:11:45.403 --> 01:11:51.932
A relationship is key because these people want to know that you are a good person to be around.

1309
01:11:51.952 --> 01:11:55.758
They want to know if you're going to be starring in my T-Mobile commercial,

1310
01:11:57.287 --> 01:11:58.228
We want to have dinner with you.

1311
01:11:58.248 --> 01:11:59.969
We want to see what type of person you are.

1312
01:12:00.009 --> 01:12:05.472
They want to make sure you're not a guy that's going to go out and do nothing wild after we trust you with this.

1313
01:12:05.492 --> 01:12:06.533
You're going to be all over TV.

1314
01:12:06.573 --> 01:12:07.713
We trust you with these things.

1315
01:12:08.054 --> 01:12:09.354
We sign you to a Nike deal.

1316
01:12:09.395 --> 01:12:10.595
You're in a T-Mobile deal.

1317
01:12:11.076 --> 01:12:12.436
These people, it's all about relationship.

1318
01:12:12.476 --> 01:12:14.918
Who you know, how you treat people.

1319
01:12:15.158 --> 01:12:16.139
They like to sense...

1320
01:12:17.417 --> 01:12:22.362
what type of person you are in a separate environment from who you are as the celebrity Drewski.

1321
01:12:23.142 --> 01:12:23.843
You know what I'm saying?

1322
01:12:23.863 --> 01:12:30.109
Like people tend to want to meet who the real you is before we present you to our world.

1323
01:12:30.769 --> 01:12:32.190
We want to see who you are as a person.

1324
01:12:32.210 --> 01:12:35.533
So I feel like a lot of my upbringing was around...

1325
01:12:36.314 --> 01:12:41.916
this broad horizon of different ethnicities, different genders of everybody.

1326
01:12:42.156 --> 01:12:48.538
We had Indian people, Mexican, white, black, African, Jamaican, everything you could ever think in Gwinnett County.

1327
01:12:49.199 --> 01:12:55.081
So that type of stuff shaped me to be able to go in these rooms with these bigger brands and be able to talk to anybody.

1328
01:12:55.101 --> 01:12:55.541
I'm calling somebody.

1329
01:12:55.561 --> 01:12:57.081
Did you have to learn something to do that?

1330
01:12:57.421 --> 01:13:04.864
Did you have to mature or learn a skill of like, coming from where you come from, to be in a room with these big brands and these people in suits in corporate America?

1331
01:13:05.542 --> 01:13:10.866
Nah, man, it's funny because I always have been a people person.

1332
01:13:11.466 --> 01:13:16.630
Like anytime I would, as a kid, go into a grocery store with my mom,

1333
01:13:17.973 --> 01:13:23.935
I would like if I saw a kid's parent that plays with me on a football team, I saw his parents walking around.

1334
01:13:23.955 --> 01:13:26.956
I would go up and talk to his dad and like make him laugh and joke.

1335
01:13:26.976 --> 01:13:28.297
I'm like, hey, man, give me a cigarette, man.

1336
01:13:28.837 --> 01:13:29.657
Let me get a cigarette.

1337
01:13:29.698 --> 01:13:31.458
You better go outside and smoke a poop, man.

1338
01:13:31.818 --> 01:13:35.160
And just jokingly talk as if I'm not 10 years old.

1339
01:13:35.900 --> 01:13:36.100
But.

1340
01:13:37.345 --> 01:13:42.528
I think that is a big part of what I've learned about, you know, just the industry in general.

1341
01:13:42.688 --> 01:13:55.155
It's more about relationships and, you know, how you treat people and how this interview goes or how this, you know, this dinner is with this guy who may not know nothing about you.

1342
01:13:55.175 --> 01:13:56.996
He may not know your background, nothing.

1343
01:13:57.396 --> 01:14:01.498
Are you able to have a one-on-one conversation with him and have him trust you?

1344
01:14:01.719 --> 01:14:03.940
And whatever goes down, whatever you're talking about,

1345
01:14:04.705 --> 01:14:05.607
are you a good person?

1346
01:14:05.647 --> 01:14:08.251
And I think it comes down to that regardless of anything you do.

1347
01:14:09.152 --> 01:14:09.793
Yeah, so.

1348
01:14:10.481 --> 01:14:21.928
It's interesting because when you're dealing with corporate America and you're dealing with these big brands, and you mentioned T-Mobile and all these other brands, you've got this sort of off-camera Drew guy who meets them for the dinner, but then you've got Drew Ski on camera.

1349
01:14:22.448 --> 01:14:25.510
And Drew Ski on camera, part of your comedy is you really push the boat out.

1350
01:14:25.850 --> 01:14:28.131
You say the part out loud that most people wouldn't say.

1351
01:14:29.852 --> 01:14:31.493
What is your decision framework there?

1352
01:14:31.533 --> 01:14:37.417
Because there's this term, I worked in advertising for a long time, there's this term brand safety, which means like...

1353
01:14:38.397 --> 01:14:43.338
is this person sufficiently sanitized enough that we can use the word like, trust this person with the brand?

1354
01:14:43.698 --> 01:14:48.879
But then on the other hand, the thing that people love about you is you say the part that other people don't say, you point at it.

1355
01:14:49.439 --> 01:14:50.159
What's your risk?

1356
01:14:50.179 --> 01:14:55.160
When you're thinking about content, what's the framework you use to decide whether this is okay or if it's not okay?

1357
01:14:55.180 --> 01:14:55.600
For sure.

1358
01:14:55.700 --> 01:14:56.701
No, that's a great question.

1359
01:14:57.541 --> 01:15:03.302
I think the way I look at all of this stuff, and people ask me that all the time in person whenever I see them.

1360
01:15:04.402 --> 01:15:08.124
is that I've never punched down with any jokes that I ever do.

1361
01:15:08.684 --> 01:15:10.985
Any jokes I ever do always come from a good hearted place.

1362
01:15:11.025 --> 01:15:18.849
Even if I'm doing auditions, a skit that I do, anything, you can never show me something that I've done that was like, oh, that's punching down.

1363
01:15:19.389 --> 01:15:23.291
Or that wasn't inclusive of the other person that might've been in that situation.

1364
01:15:23.351 --> 01:15:26.873
Or, oh, he doesn't touch on this because of that.

1365
01:15:26.933 --> 01:15:27.593
Or he doesn't do that.

1366
01:15:28.293 --> 01:15:31.435
I always come from a lighthearted place and a good hearted place,

1367
01:15:33.095 --> 01:15:34.156
of my comedy.

1368
01:15:34.216 --> 01:15:37.317
I never was the guy to be, cause you do have it.

1369
01:15:37.337 --> 01:15:42.319
You have those guys out there, like a Sasha Baron Cohen that has like the dark humor of things.

1370
01:15:42.400 --> 01:15:47.702
And maybe he might've upset some people that were, you know, and it might come from a bad place.

1371
01:15:47.722 --> 01:15:48.002
I don't know.

1372
01:15:48.022 --> 01:15:48.622
I've never met the guy.

1373
01:15:48.723 --> 01:15:54.045
I don't know, but I come from a good place with majority of all my humor.

1374
01:15:54.465 --> 01:15:56.546
I've just got this mental flash of you doing this.

1375
01:16:00.455 --> 01:16:05.836
But even then, even with that, even with that, comes from a good place, didn't touch on anything.

1376
01:16:05.856 --> 01:16:10.198
Because in the same time, I'm not a political guy.

1377
01:16:10.238 --> 01:16:12.858
I'm not a guy that's going out here trying to portray this.

1378
01:16:13.319 --> 01:16:15.359
Like, I know anything about anything.

1379
01:16:15.579 --> 01:16:17.520
I am just the guy here for laughs.

1380
01:16:18.200 --> 01:16:18.700
Comedian.

1381
01:16:18.920 --> 01:16:21.241
I don't care for none of that serious stuff.

1382
01:16:21.521 --> 01:16:22.541
People ask me all these deep questions.

1383
01:16:22.561 --> 01:16:24.842
I'm like, yo, I don't look at anything like that.

1384
01:16:24.862 --> 01:16:25.382
Like, I think...

1385
01:16:26.302 --> 01:16:27.562
I'm just being me.

1386
01:16:27.702 --> 01:16:31.844
I never was trying to get into no deep side of anything with nothing.

1387
01:16:31.884 --> 01:16:32.704
You are consistent.

1388
01:16:32.924 --> 01:16:35.945
That's why I went through, I was going through all of your skits.

1389
01:16:36.245 --> 01:16:41.607
And I was thinking, look, he's consistent with your values and you're not aiming at anyone in particular.

1390
01:16:41.627 --> 01:16:44.147
You're just pointing out the funny thing in the room.

1391
01:16:44.167 --> 01:16:45.268
And never punching down.

1392
01:16:45.308 --> 01:16:45.988
That's a big one.

1393
01:16:46.008 --> 01:16:49.769
People can never show me anything where it's like, okay, he's punching down at this.

1394
01:16:49.789 --> 01:16:51.410
This is coming from a bad place.

1395
01:16:51.450 --> 01:16:52.030
It's always...

1396
01:16:52.690 --> 01:17:05.033
me genuinely just speaking on what's funny or mannerisms or things that I, I see people do where I'm people watching or, you know, just exposing things to the world that we see that we don't notice that we see.

1397
01:17:05.213 --> 01:17:05.673
Yeah.

1398
01:17:05.793 --> 01:17:10.154
And it has nothing to do with the fucking political side or the race side and all that stuff.

1399
01:17:10.594 --> 01:17:13.635
It's just stuff that's going on in real life that we see,

1400
01:17:14.765 --> 01:17:21.849
Sometimes comedians have a way of showing the viewer something that they don't notice that they see.

1401
01:17:21.869 --> 01:17:28.153
It could be in the back of your brain and you can bring it to life and be like, wow, I might have saw that 15 years ago.

1402
01:17:28.173 --> 01:17:30.575
But that's funny because I remember seeing that.

1403
01:17:31.475 --> 01:17:32.917
You bring these things to life.

1404
01:17:32.957 --> 01:17:35.220
This is what a great comedic actor does.

1405
01:17:35.520 --> 01:17:36.341
I think it's probably...

1406
01:17:36.761 --> 01:17:46.453
There's probably something in the fact that if both sides at some point are angry at you or shouting at you for doing something, at least that means that you're not politically affiliated necessarily.

1407
01:17:46.974 --> 01:17:47.694
Because you're trying to...

1408
01:17:47.714 --> 01:17:49.356
I don't even know what the fuck.

1409
01:17:50.498 --> 01:17:54.443
I don't even touch on none of that political or religion or none of that stuff.

1410
01:17:54.463 --> 01:18:00.490
But it means that you're just finding things funny everywhere versus just finding them funny over there or just finding them funny over there.

1411
01:18:00.710 --> 01:18:01.091
I agree.

1412
01:18:01.411 --> 01:18:05.336
I think I just, I've never had the want to do that.

1413
01:18:05.596 --> 01:18:12.461
And some people, like you have these late night shows that talk about that type of stuff, or, you know, these guys that that's their spill.

1414
01:18:12.501 --> 01:18:13.861
That's not my spill.

1415
01:18:13.881 --> 01:18:14.782
Same with podcasters.

1416
01:18:15.082 --> 01:18:18.104
Yeah, some people have, yeah, they touch on that stuff.

1417
01:18:18.444 --> 01:18:20.226
And I feel like with you, you never...

1418
01:18:21.061 --> 01:18:22.702
get too in-depth with any of that.

1419
01:18:22.722 --> 01:18:27.383
You let them talk and you just ask whatever you're going to ask and it just happens how it's going to happen.

1420
01:18:27.403 --> 01:18:27.523
Yeah.

1421
01:18:27.563 --> 01:18:29.464
And I'll sit with Michelle Obama or J.D.

1422
01:18:29.484 --> 01:18:32.125
Vance or Ivanka Trump or Kamala Harris.

1423
01:18:32.305 --> 01:18:33.005
I've sat with all of them.

1424
01:18:33.045 --> 01:18:35.566
I'll sit with all of them and I'll ask the questions I'm curious about.

1425
01:18:35.626 --> 01:18:38.667
And I think it's possible just to be curious, you know?

1426
01:18:38.927 --> 01:18:42.208
So it sounded like Trump did ask Erica Kirk to sue you though.

1427
01:18:43.363 --> 01:18:45.424
But you must be, this is crazy.

1428
01:18:45.924 --> 01:18:47.064
I don't know if that's true.

1429
01:18:47.104 --> 01:18:47.644
I don't know.

1430
01:18:47.704 --> 01:18:48.424
It looks like it.

1431
01:18:48.684 --> 01:18:49.204
It looks like it.

1432
01:18:49.224 --> 01:18:52.185
I read it and I thought that can't be, there's no way that's true.

1433
01:18:52.525 --> 01:18:53.845
There's no way that's true.

1434
01:18:54.285 --> 01:18:54.726
Here we go.

1435
01:18:55.226 --> 01:18:58.766
In March, you released the video of how conservative white women in America act.

1436
01:18:59.106 --> 01:19:01.847
And it did hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of millions of views.

1437
01:19:01.867 --> 01:19:03.527
I think I watched it like 20 times.

1438
01:19:03.547 --> 01:19:04.168
Insane, man.

1439
01:19:04.188 --> 01:19:04.548
Insane.

1440
01:19:06.568 --> 01:19:14.799
And then in April, exactly one week later, Trump made the comment to Erica Kirk that she should sue him.

1441
01:19:15.940 --> 01:19:19.765
He didn't say who, but I'm just saying that is... Who knows?

1442
01:19:19.785 --> 01:19:21.988
I don't know if you're talking about me.

1443
01:19:22.108 --> 01:19:22.929
Who was he talking about?

1444
01:19:23.069 --> 01:19:23.470
I don't know.

1445
01:19:23.490 --> 01:19:24.411
Who was he talking about me?

1446
01:19:25.591 --> 01:19:27.912
To this day, I have no idea, but people sent me that video.

1447
01:19:27.992 --> 01:19:30.374
I just didn't know if it was pretending towards me.

1448
01:19:30.434 --> 01:19:33.596
I just, just left it alone.

1449
01:19:33.616 --> 01:19:35.056
I have no idea.

1450
01:19:35.176 --> 01:19:36.437
I have no idea.

1451
01:19:36.717 --> 01:19:37.138
I don't know.

1452
01:19:37.298 --> 01:19:37.678
I don't know.

1453
01:19:38.158 --> 01:19:38.939
That's crazy though.

1454
01:19:39.119 --> 01:19:39.799
Yeah.

1455
01:19:39.819 --> 01:19:44.241
But even in a weird way, it does speak to the impact that you're working.

1456
01:19:44.542 --> 01:19:46.423
If he was talking, I don't know if he was though.

1457
01:19:46.463 --> 01:19:48.384
You're hoping he was.

1458
01:19:48.424 --> 01:19:49.524
You're hoping he was.

1459
01:19:50.485 --> 01:19:52.226
I'm not looking to get sued by nobody.

1460
01:19:52.346 --> 01:19:53.487
I'm not looking forward to that.

1461
01:19:54.443 --> 01:19:55.304
No, man, no.

1462
01:19:55.844 --> 01:19:56.584
For sure, no.

1463
01:19:57.445 --> 01:19:58.906
Is it a compliment in a weird way?

1464
01:20:00.647 --> 01:20:01.667
Not necessarily.

1465
01:20:02.147 --> 01:20:05.990
I don't think I would look to get sued by anybody.

1466
01:20:07.330 --> 01:20:11.673
We have too much shit that we're pursuing right now to be looking forward to that.

1467
01:20:11.733 --> 01:20:12.633
No, not at all.

1468
01:20:13.494 --> 01:20:14.074
That's crazy.

1469
01:20:17.265 --> 01:20:19.186
I love how you said that.

1470
01:20:19.487 --> 01:20:20.107
That's crazy.

1471
01:20:20.367 --> 01:20:21.348
No, but that is crazy.

1472
01:20:21.368 --> 01:20:21.868
Thinking about it.

1473
01:20:21.888 --> 01:20:24.210
I'm like thinking about you in that room with your sister's blanket.

1474
01:20:24.730 --> 01:20:26.232
And then I just had this mental.

1475
01:20:27.412 --> 01:20:28.513
And then Trump's like, sue him.

1476
01:20:31.936 --> 01:20:33.697
In the White House, which is just.

1477
01:20:34.518 --> 01:20:35.018
That's crazy.

1478
01:20:35.478 --> 01:20:36.019
I don't know, man.

1479
01:20:36.039 --> 01:20:37.079
Kind of inspiring in a weird way.

1480
01:20:37.219 --> 01:20:38.861
No, but I don't think that was towards me.

1481
01:20:38.901 --> 01:20:39.921
You're saying that was towards me.

1482
01:20:39.941 --> 01:20:40.542
I think it was.

1483
01:20:40.562 --> 01:20:41.062
I don't think it was.

1484
01:20:41.082 --> 01:20:41.442
I think it was.

1485
01:20:41.503 --> 01:20:42.043
I think it was.

1486
01:20:43.095 --> 01:20:46.338
Well, we'll never know until someone asks him.

1487
01:20:46.878 --> 01:21:00.930
But I mean, yeah, so since then it's been, you've had a unbelievable career and you've really managed to do something that very few people who start out making content on the internet are able to do, which is traverse multiple industries and mediums.

1488
01:21:01.111 --> 01:21:03.352
I feel like I've seen you everywhere from commercials.

1489
01:21:03.372 --> 01:21:04.273
Did you do the Superbowl?

1490
01:21:04.734 --> 01:21:05.975
Yeah, we did a Superbowl commercial.

1491
01:21:05.995 --> 01:21:06.615
You did the Superbowl?

1492
01:21:06.936 --> 01:21:08.837
Last year it was Dunkin' Donuts Superbowl commercial.

1493
01:21:08.877 --> 01:21:09.298
This year...

1494
01:21:09.898 --> 01:21:11.759
It was T-Mobile with the Backstreet Boys.

1495
01:21:11.939 --> 01:21:13.300
This Dunkin' Donuts commercial.

1496
01:21:13.660 --> 01:21:14.040
Yeah.

1497
01:21:14.380 --> 01:21:17.762
I heard this crazy story that they accidentally sent you Jim Carrey's money.

1498
01:21:17.782 --> 01:21:18.442
Jim Carrey's.

1499
01:21:18.822 --> 01:21:19.782
No, they didn't send the money.

1500
01:21:19.822 --> 01:21:23.584
They sent an email showing how much he would be getting paid for that hour.

1501
01:21:23.604 --> 01:21:24.565
Oh.

1502
01:21:24.665 --> 01:21:26.205
Or the two hours that he was there.

1503
01:21:26.646 --> 01:21:27.146
Insane.

1504
01:21:27.898 --> 01:21:28.858
And they weren't supposed to.

1505
01:21:29.419 --> 01:21:31.399
They were actually mad that I even spoke on that.

1506
01:21:31.499 --> 01:21:32.900
But he didn't even show up.

1507
01:21:33.380 --> 01:21:34.621
He didn't even accept the job.

1508
01:21:34.641 --> 01:21:37.482
No, I don't think he ever said yes to it.

1509
01:21:37.522 --> 01:21:43.864
But they accidentally sent it to me, assuming that it was, I guess, Jim Carrey's management.

1510
01:21:44.184 --> 01:21:45.365
They sent it to my management.

1511
01:21:45.665 --> 01:21:50.787
And I think they accidentally sent the proposal, which was supposed to be for him.

1512
01:21:52.238 --> 01:21:55.840
And they might have sent my proposal to him, but his proposal to me.

1513
01:21:56.640 --> 01:22:00.522
I can only imagine if he saw the amount I was getting.

1514
01:22:00.762 --> 01:22:01.883
That's probably why he didn't do this shit.

1515
01:22:01.923 --> 01:22:02.663
He probably saw my shit.

1516
01:22:05.804 --> 01:22:08.866
Jim Carrey saw the proposal, how much I was getting paid for this shit.

1517
01:22:09.266 --> 01:22:09.706
I don't know.

1518
01:22:09.726 --> 01:22:10.206
I don't know.

1519
01:22:10.406 --> 01:22:11.067
But, um...

1520
01:22:11.708 --> 01:22:13.809
Yeah, no, it was an insane amount of money.

1521
01:22:14.129 --> 01:22:20.412
And I was like, wow, that gives me a lot of inspiration to become on that level one day.

1522
01:22:21.032 --> 01:22:23.253
People are saying it was in the region of $5 million.

1523
01:22:23.313 --> 01:22:24.734
It's around that.

1524
01:22:24.994 --> 01:22:25.634
Yeah.

1525
01:22:25.934 --> 01:22:27.375
For two hours of shooting.

1526
01:22:27.935 --> 01:22:30.816
And they sent you that figure so you got to see what he was being paid for two hours.

1527
01:22:30.856 --> 01:22:34.418
I hope he didn't see mine because that would have been totally embarrassing.

1528
01:22:34.738 --> 01:22:37.601
So that's a $2.5 million an hour to shoot a commercial.

1529
01:22:37.621 --> 01:22:39.082
And he said, no, he said no.

1530
01:22:39.723 --> 01:22:41.645
So imagine what he wants.

1531
01:22:42.385 --> 01:22:43.366
I'm not sure if it's money.

1532
01:22:43.827 --> 01:22:43.987
Yeah.

1533
01:22:44.467 --> 01:22:47.050
And that is something I look up to him about.

1534
01:22:47.851 --> 01:22:52.155
He's one of those guys that doesn't look at a money sign and just say yes to.

1535
01:22:52.835 --> 01:22:57.620
He's one of those guys that genuinely cares about his craft and his legacy and

1536
01:22:58.398 --> 01:23:00.319
He still hasn't done a Grinch 2 yet.

1537
01:23:00.339 --> 01:23:01.300
I know they're shooting it right now.

1538
01:23:01.700 --> 01:23:06.623
But up to this date, until last week, they didn't announce that they were shooting Grinch 2.

1539
01:23:07.424 --> 01:23:09.926
So how much money was he wanting before?

1540
01:23:10.266 --> 01:23:11.306
Or was it even about money?

1541
01:23:11.346 --> 01:23:13.468
Or did he just not want to do another one?

1542
01:23:14.408 --> 01:23:14.909
You never know.

1543
01:23:14.989 --> 01:23:15.389
I don't know.

1544
01:23:15.509 --> 01:23:20.272
But I feel like he's very specific about everything that he does.

1545
01:23:21.553 --> 01:23:23.995
You ever seen Fire Marshall Bill from In Living Color?

1546
01:23:24.015 --> 01:23:24.175
No.

1547
01:23:24.787 --> 01:23:24.987
No.

1548
01:23:25.447 --> 01:23:26.048
Oh, my God.

1549
01:23:26.528 --> 01:23:27.649
You have no idea.

1550
01:23:27.709 --> 01:23:28.949
You haven't seen shit.

1551
01:23:29.270 --> 01:23:32.311
That's like damn near the beginning of the character of Grinch.

1552
01:23:32.731 --> 01:23:36.574
Fire Marshal Bill is like the teaser of what the Grinch became.

1553
01:23:36.874 --> 01:23:37.574
And the mask.

1554
01:23:37.634 --> 01:23:40.115
It has a twist of the mask in there, too.

1555
01:23:40.576 --> 01:23:42.997
He was like the only white person on a living color at the time.

1556
01:23:43.697 --> 01:23:45.618
He's an interesting guy.

1557
01:23:45.659 --> 01:23:48.560
He's like a very philosophical.

1558
01:23:48.800 --> 01:23:49.240
For sure.

1559
01:23:50.081 --> 01:23:50.501
Wise.

1560
01:23:51.061 --> 01:23:52.142
Yeah, he's very wise, man.

1561
01:23:52.202 --> 01:23:52.582
Have you met him?

1562
01:23:53.023 --> 01:23:53.523
Never met him.

1563
01:23:54.555 --> 01:23:56.784
One day, that's another guy that's on my...

1564
01:23:57.953 --> 01:23:59.874
list that I would love to meet, man.

1565
01:24:00.214 --> 01:24:01.515
Love, love, love to meet.

1566
01:24:01.975 --> 01:24:06.557
Part of the game that we often don't speak about as well with people like yourself is just the rejection along the way.

1567
01:24:07.118 --> 01:24:12.140
Because your story could quite easily be portrayed as this sort of like, you know, bump in the road here, college, a couple issues here.

1568
01:24:12.801 --> 01:24:21.845
This situation happens, Drake calls after you've spent a long time on your own posting and compounding, and then off to the races, happy ending.

1569
01:24:22.085 --> 01:24:23.606
But there's still rejection along the way.

1570
01:24:23.626 --> 01:24:27.048
I was reading that you were rejected by both Netflix and Amazon.

1571
01:24:27.508 --> 01:24:28.769
Yeah, early on.

1572
01:24:29.509 --> 01:24:31.510
What was the proposal you made to them, and what was that?

1573
01:24:32.291 --> 01:24:33.651
I think it was multiple.

1574
01:24:33.671 --> 01:24:35.172
It wasn't just one time.

1575
01:24:35.212 --> 01:24:45.658
I think we've, we've, years and years of proposals, and I had, like, different FX proposals.

1576
01:24:45.718 --> 01:24:47.239
We were supposed to get a show with FX.

1577
01:24:47.319 --> 01:24:47.839
It was a no.

1578
01:24:47.859 --> 01:24:50.640
We were supposed to do a movie with Amazon.

1579
01:24:50.660 --> 01:24:50.900
It was a no.

1580
01:24:50.921 --> 01:24:53.522
We were supposed to do multiple different projects with Netflix.

1581
01:24:53.582 --> 01:24:55.363
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

1582
01:24:56.048 --> 01:24:57.210
And we just never gave up.

1583
01:24:57.250 --> 01:25:14.272
And I eventually said, if I'm getting money from these companies and they're paying me, instead of going and buying a car or another house or maybe a nice jewelry and all this stuff, I'm going to invest in myself.

1584
01:25:16.147 --> 01:25:24.749
And I decided to just go and all these show ideas that I had, I'm going to do it on YouTube and spend my own money to invest into it.

1585
01:25:25.449 --> 01:25:28.950
And that is essentially what I did.

1586
01:25:29.050 --> 01:25:35.472
And I think that's brought to you, could have been auditions, that's brought to you, could have been love, that's brought to you, could have been house, could have been daddy.

1587
01:25:35.712 --> 01:25:39.173
Amongst other things like you've seen in the Drewski universe of...

1588
01:25:39.977 --> 01:25:46.200
taking it to another level with all the sketches and the production I've done and the millions of dollars I've spent and all these things.

1589
01:25:46.501 --> 01:25:53.905
I started to just believe in myself and not turn around and try to, Oh, I'm going to come back and try to do the same proposal again in a better way.

1590
01:25:54.185 --> 01:25:55.606
It's like, I'm just bet on myself.

1591
01:25:55.986 --> 01:25:56.606
And then they cool.

1592
01:25:57.487 --> 01:26:00.048
Now it's, yeah, it's a whole different story.

1593
01:26:00.809 --> 01:26:05.932
Now they want to purchase these shows that we've made and do more in the future.

1594
01:26:06.552 --> 01:26:06.832
Yeah.

1595
01:26:06.872 --> 01:26:08.233
So now it's a bidding war.

1596
01:26:09.477 --> 01:26:10.357
What is the lesson there?

1597
01:26:10.778 --> 01:26:14.079
The lesson there is just believing yourself, man.

1598
01:26:14.099 --> 01:26:17.981
Before anybody sees the vision, you have to see it.

1599
01:26:18.662 --> 01:26:22.304
If you don't see the vision yourself, you're almost doing yourself a disservice.

1600
01:26:22.844 --> 01:26:23.884
It has to start with you.

1601
01:26:24.025 --> 01:26:27.246
And I think most people don't understand what they have in front of them.

1602
01:26:27.466 --> 01:26:29.247
Everybody's like, oh, I'm waiting on the big movie.

1603
01:26:29.287 --> 01:26:30.488
I'm waiting on my big movie break.

1604
01:26:30.548 --> 01:26:32.069
Once I do it, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, I'm going to do this.

1605
01:26:32.709 --> 01:26:34.930
Once they give me an opportunity, I'm waiting on my opportunity.

1606
01:26:34.970 --> 01:26:37.572
Shit, I'm going to just keep dah, dah, dah, dah, dah until they give me an opportunity.

1607
01:26:37.592 --> 01:26:38.372
I'm going to keep...

1608
01:26:38.512 --> 01:26:40.113
You don't even believe in yourself, man.

1609
01:26:40.514 --> 01:26:46.759
All that money you got last year from this and that and all these things, you didn't put not one dime into your content.

1610
01:26:46.779 --> 01:26:49.942
You still shooting the same shit with the same phone.

1611
01:26:50.182 --> 01:26:50.782
And that's cool.

1612
01:26:50.822 --> 01:26:52.043
Some people are cool with that.

1613
01:26:52.064 --> 01:26:52.884
You don't need much.

1614
01:26:53.565 --> 01:26:55.727
Not saying you need the big productions I have, but you don't.

1615
01:26:56.848 --> 01:27:04.974
But are you really doubling down and betting on yourself if you're not investing in your own stuff?

1616
01:27:05.295 --> 01:27:05.495
Yeah.

1617
01:27:05.927 --> 01:27:07.770
And that was a conversation I had to have with myself.

1618
01:27:07.790 --> 01:27:11.755
And I was like, damn, I'm going to show them not by coming back and doubling back.

1619
01:27:12.056 --> 01:27:17.163
I'm going to show them by doing it myself and having them wanting what I did in reverse.

1620
01:27:17.203 --> 01:27:18.144
And maybe they don't want that.

1621
01:27:18.985 --> 01:27:22.566
Maybe they'll see what I was capable of doing and then wanting to do other things.

1622
01:27:22.846 --> 01:27:24.967
But along the way, you're going to have to have a lot of smart people.

1623
01:27:25.147 --> 01:27:25.528
For sure.

1624
01:27:25.908 --> 01:27:34.491
Who, by their job title or their status or their LinkedIn bio, evidently know much more than you do, telling you that you're wrong.

1625
01:27:34.951 --> 01:27:36.572
Telling you that that idea is not a good one.

1626
01:27:36.752 --> 01:27:36.972
Yeah.

1627
01:27:37.352 --> 01:27:40.074
And that is something that I guess you have to like conceptualize in your head.

1628
01:27:40.175 --> 01:27:41.235
Like, how do I deal with that?

1629
01:27:41.256 --> 01:27:44.098
This smart person at Insert Streaming Platform is telling me no.

1630
01:27:44.118 --> 01:27:44.699
Yeah.

1631
01:27:44.979 --> 01:27:45.759
But I think yes.

1632
01:27:45.819 --> 01:27:48.322
And they- Plenty of people have told me no, man.

1633
01:27:48.582 --> 01:27:49.423
Even down to-

1634
01:27:50.538 --> 01:27:57.607
The dudes that I was telling you that were making fun of me at the college saying, oh, you don't even have no shoes to go out with as well.

1635
01:27:57.647 --> 01:27:58.328
We pick you up.

1636
01:27:59.149 --> 01:28:07.840
I told those guys on the second last week I kind of was going to classes that I was going to try to pursue comedy.

1637
01:28:08.601 --> 01:28:09.882
And they were like, bro, come on, man.

1638
01:28:09.902 --> 01:28:13.484
They were like, yo, you're funny, bro, but you ain't that funny.

1639
01:28:14.084 --> 01:28:15.284
Think about what you're going up against.

1640
01:28:15.304 --> 01:28:19.887
You're going up against like Kevin Hart or like the Kings of Comedy, Bernie Mac and all these guys.

1641
01:28:20.287 --> 01:28:21.107
Think about it, bro.

1642
01:28:21.388 --> 01:28:22.548
What they doing, that's big.

1643
01:28:22.568 --> 01:28:23.749
That's like unfathomable.

1644
01:28:23.769 --> 01:28:25.670
Like you can't even, till that day.

1645
01:28:26.430 --> 01:28:28.010
I'll never forget that conversation.

1646
01:28:28.030 --> 01:28:30.091
Because it was like a little side conversation with them.

1647
01:28:30.131 --> 01:28:31.251
Maybe it was like, oh, whatever.

1648
01:28:31.651 --> 01:28:34.112
They probably might not even remember that conversation.

1649
01:28:34.132 --> 01:28:36.252
It was just like a whatever conversation to them.

1650
01:28:36.832 --> 01:28:41.333
Were they right when they said, by the way, Drew, those legends are up there and you're down here?

1651
01:28:41.954 --> 01:28:42.874
Not a shot.

1652
01:28:43.074 --> 01:28:43.794
They weren't right?

1653
01:28:44.114 --> 01:28:44.534
Not at all.

1654
01:28:46.095 --> 01:28:47.575
I believed even then...

1655
01:28:49.062 --> 01:28:50.723
I could already see it happening.

1656
01:28:51.224 --> 01:28:56.387
Like I had visions of it already being in front of me before I even got a chance to actually do it.

1657
01:28:57.597 --> 01:29:03.261
I guess also what I'm saying is like, they could have been theoretically right that there was a long gap.

1658
01:29:03.301 --> 01:29:04.983
It's not to say you couldn't close it.

1659
01:29:05.363 --> 01:29:06.664
No, there's not to say I couldn't close it.

1660
01:29:06.784 --> 01:29:07.164
I agree.

1661
01:29:07.385 --> 01:29:07.605
Yeah.

1662
01:29:08.005 --> 01:29:12.208
But what they were saying is almost like as if it wasn't even possible.

1663
01:29:12.228 --> 01:29:12.869
Possible, yeah.

1664
01:29:13.029 --> 01:29:13.289
Okay.

1665
01:29:13.629 --> 01:29:16.412
The way they put it was almost like, come on, man.

1666
01:29:16.432 --> 01:29:17.853
That's so wild to think.

1667
01:29:20.206 --> 01:29:20.886
Do you know why I say this?

1668
01:29:20.966 --> 01:29:33.209
It's because there's so many kids right now that are looking at you, or they're looking at, I don't know, insert sports athlete or insert podcaster, and they're looking up at a mountaintop and they're going, objectively, that person is better than me.

1669
01:29:33.669 --> 01:29:36.990
They have the skills, they have the mannerisms, they have the body language down.

1670
01:29:38.050 --> 01:29:40.431
The gap is so big that I won't even bother.

1671
01:29:40.971 --> 01:29:45.152
And that's kind of what I'm pointing at is, did you ever feel, did you ever know the gap was big?

1672
01:29:45.892 --> 01:29:48.113
I never looked at it like it was a big gap.

1673
01:29:48.153 --> 01:29:52.134
I always felt, because I'm going to tell you the problem with looking at it like it's a big gap.

1674
01:29:53.075 --> 01:30:04.439
Once you process your brain of thinking this is so far unattainable, the journey becomes not even, like you're not even thinking these steps could happen.

1675
01:30:04.959 --> 01:30:05.840
There has to be steps.

1676
01:30:05.860 --> 01:30:10.462
So from me seeing that those guys are great, they've all done amazing things.

1677
01:30:10.482 --> 01:30:11.442
I look up to all of them.

1678
01:30:12.434 --> 01:30:13.975
but I know it's achievable.

1679
01:30:14.115 --> 01:30:16.898
I had steps in place that I knew.

1680
01:30:16.958 --> 01:30:21.742
Nobody else could see these steps up to this level of trying to be great.

1681
01:30:22.283 --> 01:30:23.043
Nobody else sees that.

1682
01:30:23.303 --> 01:30:26.626
You're the only person that is able to see these small steps.

1683
01:30:26.646 --> 01:30:30.109
So once I started to see the small steps, I'm like, I'm only going up a ladder.

1684
01:30:30.710 --> 01:30:31.190
I'm not,

1685
01:30:32.307 --> 01:30:33.227
not getting closer.

1686
01:30:33.407 --> 01:30:42.350
I know that this is a far maybe thing, but I'm not looking at it like that because every small thing, I feel like I'm gaining in on it.

1687
01:30:42.690 --> 01:30:44.051
So you were just focused on the small steps?

1688
01:30:44.111 --> 01:30:45.231
I was focused on the small steps.

1689
01:30:45.251 --> 01:30:50.713
I never, if you focus on the far goal, no, you'll never achieve shit, man.

1690
01:30:51.953 --> 01:30:53.634
I'm saying it's funny, but it's the truth.

1691
01:30:53.674 --> 01:30:55.834
It's like, let's say you're like, oh, I'm a winning Oscar.

1692
01:30:56.315 --> 01:30:57.595
And you just started as an actor.

1693
01:30:58.830 --> 01:31:03.002
Yes, you can say I want to win an Oscar, but what are the small steps you're going to do before achieving it?

1694
01:31:03.022 --> 01:31:06.752
What are all these stairs all the way to where the fuck this Oscar is at?

1695
01:31:07.033 --> 01:31:07.253
Uh-huh.

1696
01:31:07.618 --> 01:31:11.901
If you don't look at all these stairs, bro, it's like looking at a mountain without the ladder.

1697
01:31:12.982 --> 01:31:14.804
You got to find a way to climb this shit.

1698
01:31:14.844 --> 01:31:20.168
If you don't see, if you don't have no steps or no ladder or nothing, you don't have no way to get to it.

1699
01:31:20.248 --> 01:31:23.371
I agree with what he is saying in a way, but not really.

1700
01:31:23.431 --> 01:31:26.393
It's like, I'm going to build my own steps to getting there.

1701
01:31:26.453 --> 01:31:27.654
Because he's saying don't even bother.

1702
01:31:27.894 --> 01:31:29.375
Yeah, he's saying don't even bother.

1703
01:31:29.416 --> 01:31:30.656
That is so far out.

1704
01:31:30.777 --> 01:31:31.337
Come on, man.

1705
01:31:31.377 --> 01:31:32.618
You're funny, but you ain't.

1706
01:31:33.219 --> 01:31:34.420
These dudes is like...

1707
01:31:35.160 --> 01:31:37.142
He's looking at them like they're like a god.

1708
01:31:37.282 --> 01:31:40.645
Like this is, don't look at yourself like that.

1709
01:31:40.725 --> 01:31:44.288
That's, as if they didn't come from the same thing.

1710
01:31:44.668 --> 01:31:52.575
Because those gods, those people you're looking up to, when they were 19, 20, they probably- You believe that they just were always destined.

1711
01:31:52.595 --> 01:31:52.995
Exactly.

1712
01:31:53.195 --> 01:31:54.876
You're not thinking that.

1713
01:31:54.896 --> 01:32:02.042
You see them in this light of like, oh my gosh, this is that guy, but you don't see the process.

1714
01:32:02.923 --> 01:32:08.586
Once you break down what every single great person has done, you start to see they all took these steps.

1715
01:32:08.766 --> 01:32:10.687
Nothing just was like an overnight thing.

1716
01:32:11.147 --> 01:32:24.514
I do ask myself, though, because through that journey up the ladder, sane people, it goes back to what I was saying earlier, like sane people wouldn't bother, because there's always up the ladder naysayers, and there's easier money at Red Lobster.

1717
01:32:24.774 --> 01:32:24.974
Yes.

1718
01:32:25.294 --> 01:32:27.675
There's easier money at this call center over here selling this.

1719
01:32:27.715 --> 01:32:28.796
You can scam that over here.

1720
01:32:28.816 --> 01:32:30.597
Like there's other things going on.

1721
01:32:31.417 --> 01:32:33.459
There's easy money everywhere, too.

1722
01:32:33.539 --> 01:32:35.742
That's a thing that most people don't recognize.

1723
01:32:36.282 --> 01:32:42.809
Some people glorify money than they glorify the actual pursuit of the greatness.

1724
01:32:43.390 --> 01:32:53.160
Most people will go and grab the money because the money's good, and they will dilute the whole brand and wash it away before it was ever even able to start.

1725
01:32:54.293 --> 01:32:54.873
the whole thing.

1726
01:32:54.893 --> 01:32:55.834
I've had opportunities.

1727
01:32:55.854 --> 01:32:58.754
People be like, Oh, come and do my music video, do this.

1728
01:32:58.814 --> 01:33:05.016
And when I was on the way up and I kept thinking, I was like, damn, if I do all these random music videos, yeah, he got a couple thousand dollars for me.

1729
01:33:05.356 --> 01:33:06.076
He's a drug dealer.

1730
01:33:06.096 --> 01:33:07.036
He got a couple thousand.

1731
01:33:07.437 --> 01:33:09.657
I go grab this, but I'm thinking about my image.

1732
01:33:09.677 --> 01:33:12.558
I'm like, damn, this dude music sucks.

1733
01:33:13.566 --> 01:33:17.751
If I'm doing this for a quick $2,000 and I'm on the way, I'm on the way.

1734
01:33:17.791 --> 01:33:19.373
I see where my greatness is going.

1735
01:33:19.993 --> 01:33:24.999
But if I grab this quick money, this might kind of take me off of my pivot.

1736
01:33:25.039 --> 01:33:28.503
I want to only do special things.

1737
01:33:29.384 --> 01:33:34.449
Maybe I just kind of don't look at the money right now and I only focus on the main goal.

1738
01:33:35.290 --> 01:33:38.911
And that's what I started to change my way of thinking, because at first I was grabbing all the money.

1739
01:33:38.931 --> 01:33:42.493
I'm promoting everybody's music or video and all this stuff.

1740
01:33:42.533 --> 01:33:44.933
I was like, oh, yeah, I'm promoting your merch and all this.

1741
01:33:45.194 --> 01:33:52.196
Then I started to see I'm like, damn, I'm creating these great things and I'm giving these looks to all these other things and not myself.

1742
01:33:52.256 --> 01:33:56.318
This is not where I envisioned myself to be.

1743
01:33:56.458 --> 01:33:58.678
I want to not care about all this.

1744
01:33:58.698 --> 01:34:00.519
I want to put all this in the back of my mind.

1745
01:34:00.539 --> 01:34:01.639
I'm not even thinking about money.

1746
01:34:01.659 --> 01:34:02.880
I'm thinking about where I'm going.

1747
01:34:03.729 --> 01:34:06.833
I was going to say, you look very healthy.

1748
01:34:08.474 --> 01:34:10.156
Look like you've been drinking water.

1749
01:34:10.637 --> 01:34:11.238
Drinking water.

1750
01:34:11.498 --> 01:34:14.101
No, but you look like you've been hitting the gym or lifting weights or something.

1751
01:34:14.942 --> 01:34:15.342
Nah, man.

1752
01:34:15.402 --> 01:34:16.584
I just- You're on set.

1753
01:34:16.604 --> 01:34:17.525
You're filming.

1754
01:34:17.645 --> 01:34:18.426
Yeah, we're filming.

1755
01:34:18.466 --> 01:34:21.990
But also, I just had to start eating kind of right, too.

1756
01:34:22.150 --> 01:34:23.492
I started to care about-

1757
01:34:24.472 --> 01:34:26.994
what I was putting into my body and not just not caring.

1758
01:34:27.014 --> 01:34:29.715
I always will continue to be a heavyset guy.

1759
01:34:29.735 --> 01:34:35.599
I want to be, you know, one of the heavyset legends of all time, but you ain't got to be the biggest dude in the fucking business.

1760
01:34:35.619 --> 01:34:38.020
I was like, okay, I'm gonna be a healthy, heavyset guy.

1761
01:34:38.661 --> 01:34:40.742
And once I set my mind on that, I was like, all right, that's what I'm gonna do.

1762
01:34:40.762 --> 01:34:42.343
I'm gonna be a healthy, heavyset dude.

1763
01:34:42.363 --> 01:34:44.924
Cause I, I understand what my image is.

1764
01:34:44.944 --> 01:34:46.966
I know that's what I want it to be.

1765
01:34:48.042 --> 01:34:55.725
And I've always looked up to all the great legends that were like heavyset dudes like Chris Farley, Cedric's Entertainer, Jack Black.

1766
01:34:55.765 --> 01:34:57.906
These are guys that are like heavyset guys I look up to.

1767
01:34:57.946 --> 01:35:00.287
So I never not wanted to be that.

1768
01:35:00.367 --> 01:35:03.989
I just knew I was like, all right, both things can be true.

1769
01:35:04.069 --> 01:35:05.209
When did you think this?

1770
01:35:05.229 --> 01:35:12.813
I think like a year ago, he was just like, all right, every decision doesn't just got to be drinking every night.

1771
01:35:14.192 --> 01:35:18.933
Every decision don't got to be just gorging yourself with food just because you got money now.

1772
01:35:19.093 --> 01:35:24.575
You know, it's like, OK, you can eat these things and still go hoop at the gym with your boys.

1773
01:35:25.355 --> 01:35:26.315
Both things can be true.

1774
01:35:26.616 --> 01:35:30.737
And that's why I was like, OK, a good balance is a healthy lifestyle.

1775
01:35:30.817 --> 01:35:32.837
I just wanted to have a good balance with each.

1776
01:35:32.857 --> 01:35:35.778
So I'm at a weight where I feel like I'm comfortable.

1777
01:35:35.918 --> 01:35:36.298
I'm good.

1778
01:35:36.318 --> 01:35:36.518
I'm good.

1779
01:35:36.538 --> 01:35:37.098
You're looking good.

1780
01:35:37.379 --> 01:35:37.639
Yeah.

1781
01:35:37.699 --> 01:35:38.139
Thank you, man.

1782
01:35:38.159 --> 01:35:38.759
Appreciate that.

1783
01:35:39.242 --> 01:35:41.283
What is next for you in your world?

1784
01:35:41.343 --> 01:35:42.604
What is the big goals, the big aims?

1785
01:35:42.624 --> 01:35:43.825
You're on set shooting a movie.

1786
01:35:44.625 --> 01:35:48.727
If we sit down in five years' time, and it's been a great five years since we last spoke, what happened?

1787
01:35:49.568 --> 01:35:50.608
I became a superstar.

1788
01:35:51.249 --> 01:35:57.472
That is my full pursuit right now, is now you don't see the blonde hair.

1789
01:35:57.512 --> 01:35:58.653
You don't see the long beard.

1790
01:35:58.673 --> 01:36:02.935
You don't see the Drewski that you once saw, the social media guy.

1791
01:36:03.575 --> 01:36:08.078
You see the superstar Drewski and what he has evolved to become.

1792
01:36:09.272 --> 01:36:14.555
That is what my next five-year goal is, and continuously pass that.

1793
01:36:14.615 --> 01:36:27.943
My next 30-year goal is to be the number one comedian of my generation and be the face of comedy for the next 30 years, how Eddie Murphy did, or how Kevin Hart did, or the list could go on.

1794
01:36:28.003 --> 01:36:30.545
Like Will Ferrell and all these guys that I look up to,

1795
01:36:31.665 --> 01:36:33.166
I want to have a run like that.

1796
01:36:33.426 --> 01:36:36.807
My thing is not just doing one thing for one era.

1797
01:36:36.967 --> 01:36:43.070
I like to watch people and how they evolve and how they have done different things over their career.

1798
01:36:43.090 --> 01:36:48.272
When you see Eddie go from the raw stuff into the movies where he's...

1799
01:36:49.032 --> 01:36:51.433
alongside one of the biggest white actors of that time.

1800
01:36:51.493 --> 01:36:56.294
And he leaves SNL, and then he goes and does family movies and all this shit.

1801
01:36:56.314 --> 01:37:02.555
And then he does Harlem Nights with Richard Pryor, and he does Life with Martin Lawrence, and they team up, and you see Cook Comey.

1802
01:37:03.095 --> 01:37:06.596
I would want to do that same type of stuff for my generation.

1803
01:37:06.616 --> 01:37:10.457
I want to team up with all the big comedic people of this time.

1804
01:37:10.517 --> 01:37:14.517
I want to be the face of this generation for Commoner.

1805
01:37:15.598 --> 01:37:17.138
Have you learned to talk big?

1806
01:37:17.158 --> 01:37:17.258
Yeah.

1807
01:37:18.433 --> 01:37:23.418
Because a lot of people don't have the guts to say, I want to be a superstar.

1808
01:37:23.498 --> 01:37:25.520
I want to be the number one in my generation.

1809
01:37:25.841 --> 01:37:27.522
Have you learned to talk like that?

1810
01:37:28.163 --> 01:37:29.304
Is it a useful way of talking?

1811
01:37:29.384 --> 01:37:31.046
Or have you always spoken like that?

1812
01:37:31.326 --> 01:37:32.387
I've always spoke that way.

1813
01:37:32.868 --> 01:37:33.248
Always.

1814
01:37:33.769 --> 01:37:34.149
Always.

1815
01:37:34.469 --> 01:37:37.513
Even from early on days.

1816
01:37:37.713 --> 01:37:39.495
I always wanted to be more...

1817
01:37:40.468 --> 01:37:41.188
than just good.

1818
01:37:41.208 --> 01:37:44.050
And I know I say that a lot, but that is a true thing.

1819
01:37:44.110 --> 01:37:47.793
I've got the video from you 10 years ago and you're saying, I'm going to be on the same level as Meek Mel.

1820
01:37:48.193 --> 01:37:48.693
No, I know.

1821
01:37:48.733 --> 01:37:49.954
10 years ago, Meek Mel would.

1822
01:37:49.994 --> 01:37:50.895
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1823
01:37:50.955 --> 01:37:55.037
But at the time, the bar was set lower than what I have the bar set now.

1824
01:37:55.618 --> 01:37:58.339
One of the things that I always wanted to do, I wanted to continue to evolve.

1825
01:37:58.800 --> 01:38:05.064
So certain things that I've said then, I've noticed that I've grown since then and I want to break the chains of that.

1826
01:38:05.144 --> 01:38:08.486
I want to continue to evolve and become this newer person.

1827
01:38:08.506 --> 01:38:09.287
I want to do...

1828
01:38:10.147 --> 01:38:14.930
the Jamie Foxx and doing the Ray biopic and you get an Oscar for that.

1829
01:38:15.010 --> 01:38:15.971
Oh my God, that's amazing.

1830
01:38:16.191 --> 01:38:23.415
But then turn around and do Django, which is a mixture of comedy and real acting and then turn around and do a, a funny comedy movie.

1831
01:38:23.855 --> 01:38:30.660
So it's like, that's the type of evolving I'm looking to do in my career where I can continue to just keep transcending.

1832
01:38:31.220 --> 01:38:32.861
And I, and I didn't learn to talk that way.

1833
01:38:32.881 --> 01:38:35.483
That is something that was taught to me.

1834
01:38:36.438 --> 01:38:42.323
from my upbringing, just being confident in myself and just knowing who you are.

1835
01:38:42.443 --> 01:38:56.175
And that might have been because my mom was recording me from three, four, five, six, seven years old and continuously on and always trying to have home videos of me dancing and making my family laugh and all this crazy stuff.

1836
01:38:56.195 --> 01:39:02.841
But yeah, these are things that I built confidence over time to become, you know, this person.

1837
01:39:04.053 --> 01:39:11.318
And if you could rewind the clock and say a couple of words to this Drewski in that college dorm room on his own, no friends.

1838
01:39:12.479 --> 01:39:14.541
What does that guy need to hear?

1839
01:39:15.642 --> 01:39:25.869
I would say to believing yourself more than you have ever believed in your entire life.

1840
01:39:26.030 --> 01:39:27.731
You can be iconic.

1841
01:39:27.771 --> 01:39:28.591
You are great.

1842
01:39:29.232 --> 01:39:30.213
You are one of one.

1843
01:39:32.423 --> 01:39:38.857
And to stay consistent even when the road looks rough and you cannot see the hole at the end of the tunnel.

1844
01:39:40.340 --> 01:39:42.083
Because that's something that most people...

1845
01:39:43.199 --> 01:39:45.600
usually jump off the railroad for.

1846
01:39:46.021 --> 01:39:48.122
They can't see the outcome.

1847
01:39:48.222 --> 01:39:54.325
Once it gets kind of blurry and it's foggy and the nose or like I said, my car got repossessed, most people quit.

1848
01:39:54.385 --> 01:39:55.066
That's the point.

1849
01:39:55.566 --> 01:39:56.306
Most people quit.

1850
01:39:56.326 --> 01:40:04.631
Their girl cheats on them or something bad happens when you sat on your knees and you prayed all night and you prayed, oh my God, God, please give me this.

1851
01:40:04.691 --> 01:40:05.371
I'm looking for this.

1852
01:40:05.411 --> 01:40:06.392
I want this to happen for me.

1853
01:40:07.244 --> 01:40:09.065
Then boom, God starts to shift things.

1854
01:40:09.105 --> 01:40:09.826
Things start to shift.

1855
01:40:10.286 --> 01:40:12.707
And the people, oh my God, I asked him for this.

1856
01:40:12.727 --> 01:40:13.408
Yeah, I don't.

1857
01:40:14.208 --> 01:40:15.689
It's because he put you through the trial.

1858
01:40:15.729 --> 01:40:18.551
You didn't even get through the trials and the tribulations yet.

1859
01:40:18.611 --> 01:40:23.534
You just, he started to remove things from your life as soon as you asked for it.

1860
01:40:24.255 --> 01:40:27.177
And now you're questioning why it happened.

1861
01:40:27.197 --> 01:40:27.477
Why?

1862
01:40:28.191 --> 01:40:31.854
It's like, this is what you essentially wanted.

1863
01:40:31.874 --> 01:40:33.035
This is what you asked for.

1864
01:40:33.475 --> 01:40:37.018
And most people, they get off the track before it even starts.

1865
01:40:37.498 --> 01:40:42.983
They can't see the outcome, so they get worried and they just jump off.

1866
01:40:43.463 --> 01:40:44.984
And that's what I would tell myself, man.

1867
01:40:45.385 --> 01:40:45.905
Stay to it.

1868
01:40:45.925 --> 01:40:46.426
Stick to it.

1869
01:40:47.026 --> 01:40:52.250
There's an interesting point here, which is, you know, a lot of us, we talk about never quitting.

1870
01:40:52.310 --> 01:40:55.773
But sometimes you do have to quit, right?

1871
01:40:55.793 --> 01:40:56.974
Because, like, you quit college.

1872
01:40:58.199 --> 01:40:59.200
I quit college.

1873
01:41:00.300 --> 01:41:02.642
And there's this weird thing because there's certain things.

1874
01:41:02.662 --> 01:41:03.302
Yeah.

1875
01:41:03.342 --> 01:41:04.002
Certain things.

1876
01:41:04.603 --> 01:41:07.705
Rappers, if you're out there and you're still rapping past 30, quit.

1877
01:41:08.685 --> 01:41:11.367
Get the fuck off that mic and get the hell out of that studio.

1878
01:41:12.207 --> 01:41:13.168
Quit that shit.

1879
01:41:13.228 --> 01:41:13.828
So you're right.

1880
01:41:14.429 --> 01:41:15.609
Sometimes you do.

1881
01:41:19.151 --> 01:41:21.633
Get the fuck out of that studio, man.

1882
01:41:24.150 --> 01:41:24.550
I agree.

1883
01:41:24.610 --> 01:41:28.113
No, to some sort, it's true.

1884
01:41:28.453 --> 01:41:30.835
Yes, yes.

1885
01:41:30.855 --> 01:41:33.177
There's a hell of a way to wrap the entire conversation.

1886
01:41:33.217 --> 01:41:35.939
But it's interesting because I think everything's nuanced.

1887
01:41:35.959 --> 01:41:39.382
When you've got a passion, of course, you pursue it, especially when there's evidence.

1888
01:41:39.682 --> 01:41:39.863
Yeah.

1889
01:41:40.403 --> 01:41:44.586
But I wonder in your industry, because there's going to be a lot of people who are pursuing comedy

1890
01:41:45.868 --> 01:41:50.330
who might not have the, and this is always the balancing act.

1891
01:41:50.750 --> 01:41:56.413
I think, I started a podcast and it went well, so I've got a little bit of survivorship bias in a way.

1892
01:41:56.893 --> 01:42:03.556
So the advice I might give to young podcasters is just like, well, just start it in your kitchen and then just keep at it for six years.

1893
01:42:04.636 --> 01:42:07.918
But there might have been some advantages that I'm not aware of.

1894
01:42:08.038 --> 01:42:11.900
In your case, I go, I looked at you at six years old, you were funny.

1895
01:42:12.520 --> 01:42:13.140
You were funny at six.

1896
01:42:13.780 --> 01:42:14.641
I wasn't funny at six.

1897
01:42:14.801 --> 01:42:14.901
Yeah.

1898
01:42:15.588 --> 01:42:23.170
So if I tried to be you, I objectively would have at least had a harder time, if not total failure.

1899
01:42:23.750 --> 01:42:34.832
So there's almost this weird self-awareness component of knowing thyself because I might stay in the studio past 50, if you know what I'm saying.

1900
01:42:35.013 --> 01:42:39.133
Because people like me and you, we survived, we got there.

1901
01:42:39.173 --> 01:42:40.914
So we look back down and just go, you know,

1902
01:42:42.480 --> 01:42:44.221
consistency is the number one thing.

1903
01:42:44.762 --> 01:42:47.743
But somewhere in there, there's like an element of self-awareness and you must get it all the time.

1904
01:42:47.763 --> 01:42:49.965
You must have people roll up to you and just start cracking jokes.

1905
01:42:50.165 --> 01:42:50.405
Yeah.

1906
01:42:51.025 --> 01:42:53.007
You have to have a good fake laugh, I will say.

1907
01:42:53.987 --> 01:42:54.948
Holy shit.

1908
01:42:55.988 --> 01:42:57.069
Because it does get bad.

1909
01:42:57.089 --> 01:42:59.630
People just want to come up to you and say random shit.

1910
01:42:59.891 --> 01:43:00.151
Yeah.

1911
01:43:00.251 --> 01:43:01.832
But no, I do agree with you.

1912
01:43:02.652 --> 01:43:07.035
You have to have a sense of awareness and your judgment

1913
01:43:08.049 --> 01:43:10.950
has to be on point because it's not just about staying consistent.

1914
01:43:10.970 --> 01:43:15.912
It's about knowing the feeling of this is the thing.

1915
01:43:15.932 --> 01:43:17.233
So it took me some time with that.

1916
01:43:17.353 --> 01:43:25.717
It did take me time, but I think most people aren't, they're not okay with sitting down in silence and figuring it out.

1917
01:43:26.577 --> 01:43:29.038
Most people will say, I'm so confused.

1918
01:43:29.638 --> 01:43:31.139
I can't figure out what I want to do.

1919
01:43:31.199 --> 01:43:32.300
I don't know what I want to do.

1920
01:43:32.320 --> 01:43:34.540
I have all these great things I want to do.

1921
01:43:34.561 --> 01:43:35.441
I want to do everything.

1922
01:43:36.342 --> 01:43:37.863
But they don't never put their phone down.

1923
01:43:38.443 --> 01:43:41.626
They don't never try to sit with their self and figure things out.

1924
01:43:41.686 --> 01:43:47.450
Nobody tries to remove themselves from all the stuff that same person will tell you that.

1925
01:43:47.790 --> 01:43:52.513
Go get high or get drunk or go and leave and go talk to somebody else.

1926
01:43:52.773 --> 01:43:54.995
And maybe it hurts for them to do that.

1927
01:43:56.011 --> 01:43:59.418
And that's the thing that people won't sit with themselves and do.

1928
01:43:59.458 --> 01:44:07.094
But that is one of the main things that shifted my entire life was sitting down in silence and figuring out what is it.

1929
01:44:07.952 --> 01:44:08.832
that I want to do.

1930
01:44:09.453 --> 01:44:11.774
You go through everything you grew up loving to do.

1931
01:44:11.854 --> 01:44:16.417
You go through everything that you want to pursue and you figure it out through all that.

1932
01:44:16.617 --> 01:44:30.344
But until you sit in silence and sit with yourself as the true you, not the you that's high, not the you that's drunk, not the you that just wants to go to a friend and talk shit and go back and forth about, oh, we're so, we want to do all this shit.

1933
01:44:30.824 --> 01:44:33.106
No, you got to sit with yourself and figure this shit out.

1934
01:44:33.146 --> 01:44:34.226
Most people don't want to do that.

1935
01:44:34.486 --> 01:44:35.127
And that's cool.

1936
01:44:35.907 --> 01:44:38.729
But that is the key to figuring it out.

1937
01:44:40.149 --> 01:44:40.650
By far.

1938
01:44:41.770 --> 01:44:46.052
Drewski, we have a closing tradition where the last guest leaves a question for the next not knowing who they're leaving it for.

1939
01:44:46.252 --> 01:44:47.433
And the question left for you.

1940
01:44:48.594 --> 01:44:54.817
If you could make it happen, who would you most want to be like in your next life?

1941
01:44:56.218 --> 01:44:56.718
Ooh, man.

1942
01:44:58.428 --> 01:45:00.089
That's currently alive.

1943
01:45:00.570 --> 01:45:01.070
Doesn't say.

1944
01:45:02.011 --> 01:45:02.691
Michael Jackson.

1945
01:45:03.292 --> 01:45:03.492
Why?

1946
01:45:04.873 --> 01:45:09.896
He's arguably the most iconic individual of all time.

1947
01:45:10.977 --> 01:45:13.339
He achieved real greatness.

1948
01:45:15.300 --> 01:45:20.764
Real greatness of like, of all aspects of perfecting a craft.

1949
01:45:21.705 --> 01:45:24.047
He figured out a way to do it all.

1950
01:45:25.415 --> 01:45:27.776
He had gangsters dancing in his music video.

1951
01:45:29.317 --> 01:45:30.818
He changed his persona.

1952
01:45:30.838 --> 01:45:33.619
He continued to evolve with his career.

1953
01:45:33.659 --> 01:45:34.980
He went from the kid artist.

1954
01:45:35.040 --> 01:45:39.142
Most people can't go from the kid to the real one and still have success.

1955
01:45:39.903 --> 01:45:40.823
They can't do that.

1956
01:45:41.263 --> 01:45:43.204
Most people can never do that, bro.

1957
01:45:43.504 --> 01:45:47.727
He created a whole new entity, a whole new person.

1958
01:45:48.887 --> 01:45:51.829
And you forgot that he was the Jackson 5 kid.

1959
01:45:51.849 --> 01:45:53.870
This is a whole new guy.

1960
01:45:54.767 --> 01:45:56.487
I would say it would have had to be him, for sure.

1961
01:45:56.807 --> 01:46:00.128
I watched your skit pretending to be a school.

1962
01:46:00.168 --> 01:46:00.728
Oh, Joe Jackson.

1963
01:46:01.529 --> 01:46:06.410
Life in the 1960s, where you could get away with just about anything.

1964
01:46:06.730 --> 01:46:07.550
How was school, Jackie?

1965
01:46:08.170 --> 01:46:08.630
It was good.

1966
01:46:08.650 --> 01:46:10.551
I finally started passing my classes again.

1967
01:46:10.651 --> 01:46:13.291
Jackie got a girlfriend.

1968
01:46:13.431 --> 01:46:15.372
Ain't y'all worried about selling records?

1969
01:46:15.692 --> 01:46:16.612
Calm down, Joseph.

1970
01:46:17.152 --> 01:46:17.972
You're scaring the boys.

1971
01:46:18.212 --> 01:46:19.213
Talking about hit records?

1972
01:46:19.493 --> 01:46:20.973
Who done made a hit record in this house?

1973
01:46:21.687 --> 01:46:22.968
I'm tired of dancing.

1974
01:46:23.128 --> 01:46:24.108
You want me to take this belt off?

1975
01:46:24.628 --> 01:46:26.789
Fix your face, Michael, before I fix it for you.

1976
01:46:26.949 --> 01:46:28.470
Joe, can we get ice cream after this?

1977
01:46:34.512 --> 01:46:41.355
Yeah, that was some aspects of Joe Jackson that my dad had.

1978
01:46:41.755 --> 01:46:42.656
Some personality.

1979
01:46:42.736 --> 01:46:43.596
Oh, shit, yeah.

1980
01:46:43.656 --> 01:46:44.497
Oh, damn, yeah.

1981
01:46:45.337 --> 01:46:45.737
For real.

1982
01:46:46.137 --> 01:46:48.518
It wasn't hard to rip that belt off, man.

1983
01:46:48.558 --> 01:46:49.279
I've seen it before.

1984
01:46:49.299 --> 01:46:50.019
Yeah, hell yeah.

1985
01:46:50.479 --> 01:46:51.580
What can people look forward to from you?

1986
01:46:51.600 --> 01:46:52.380
Where should we point them?

1987
01:46:52.501 --> 01:46:53.181
What are you working?

1988
01:46:53.201 --> 01:46:54.162
What's your next big project?

1989
01:46:54.362 --> 01:46:55.723
Next big project?

1990
01:46:55.983 --> 01:46:58.745
The Collecting Praise show that's coming out in November.

1991
01:46:59.145 --> 01:46:59.885
Me and Mike Epps.

1992
01:47:00.065 --> 01:47:02.287
It's a show about mega pastors.

1993
01:47:02.327 --> 01:47:04.368
I did a mega pastor skit that was huge.

1994
01:47:05.049 --> 01:47:12.634
And this show is a huge comedic, semi-scripted TV show that'll be coming to Netflix and YouTube.

1995
01:47:13.674 --> 01:47:21.300
So it is between both of us, and it is honestly one of the biggest culture-shifting shows of all time, bro.

1996
01:47:21.560 --> 01:47:24.322
This shit is going to be amazing.

1997
01:47:24.863 --> 01:47:26.144
So that's a big one that's coming.

1998
01:47:26.604 --> 01:47:29.326
The Catch with Emma Stone, Chris Pine is coming out.

1999
01:47:30.927 --> 01:47:32.209
May of 2027.

2000
01:47:32.329 --> 01:47:33.190
That's a while out.

2001
01:47:33.690 --> 01:47:35.052
And then just more of Drewski.

2002
01:47:35.072 --> 01:47:36.994
Like, you're also just going to see me everywhere.

2003
01:47:37.094 --> 01:47:40.297
TV commercials, movies that we're doing ourself.

2004
01:47:41.719 --> 01:47:43.561
We just got a movie picked up by Netflix.

2005
01:47:43.861 --> 01:47:45.123
I can't speak on what it's called.

2006
01:47:46.945 --> 01:47:51.289
And, yeah, amongst so many other things, man, I'm trying to achieve greatness.

2007
01:47:51.309 --> 01:47:51.510
So.

2008
01:47:51.970 --> 01:47:53.311
It's super inspiring for so many reasons.

2009
01:47:53.371 --> 01:47:59.733
It's inspiring because you're so young, but it's also it's inspiring because you're so willing to vocalize your focus on being truly great.

2010
01:47:59.793 --> 01:48:03.274
And I think that asks of everybody listening, how can we be greater?

2011
01:48:03.734 --> 01:48:17.719
And also considering where you've come from in the turbulent childhood you had, and the odds were very much stacked against you for numbers of reasons for you to pass your way through that and climb to the very top of your industry with much more room to continue to grow in the 60, 70 years.

2012
01:48:19.700 --> 01:48:22.322
probably left on this planet is going to be unbelievable to watch.

2013
01:48:22.342 --> 01:48:23.242
And you're a good human being.

2014
01:48:23.382 --> 01:48:24.003
Thank you, man.

2015
01:48:24.083 --> 01:48:24.943
I appreciate that.

2016
01:48:24.983 --> 01:48:26.484
Which I respect tremendously.

2017
01:48:26.524 --> 01:48:28.145
So we're all going to be cheering for you.

2018
01:48:28.346 --> 01:48:29.446
And thank you so much for being here.

2019
01:48:29.466 --> 01:48:29.967
It's been an honor.

2020
01:48:29.987 --> 01:48:30.707
Great to meet you, too, man.

2021
01:48:30.727 --> 01:48:31.628
I'm a big fan of your show.

2022
01:48:31.648 --> 01:48:33.409
You do really well with everything.