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They walk in and their symptoms many times are, my hormones are off.

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And they're right, but the reality is why.

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Like, why are these women in today's day and age not having such different symptoms than their moms or their grandmas?

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Yes.

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And obviously we know we live in a very different world, right?

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Toxic exposure, social pressures, all of those things.

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I actually taught a class to about a thousand doctors about four months ago.

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And I was staged with the concept of why do hormones shift and what is the process of this and where does it come from?

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And what we revealed was very, very interesting.

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And when we understand infection and toxicity, most people, if they think they have an infection, they'd say, I have a fever, I don't feel good.

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But you can have these things... Actually, we all have these in our bodies.

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The stealth, silent... Stealth, right.

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Yeah.

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And the reality is...

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It's all about the immune system.

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You know, I always tell people the immune system is like an elementary school classroom teacher.

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Do explain that.

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Yeah, one of the good ones.

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So I grew up in ranching country of North Dakota.

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And in her room, the immune system's room, are those boys.

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And that could be Lyme, it could be viruses, it could be parasites, it could be mold.

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But if the teacher is good enough, she's going to say, boys, I see you.

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Go put your nose in the corner.

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Because I have the rest of the class to pay attention to.

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And JJ, the rest of the class is your body.

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And then somebody comes to the door.

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And that somebody could be emotional stress, physical stress, all these crazy things that are happening in the world.

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And after a while, those little boys in the corner are like, hey, teacher's gone.

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And they take over the classroom.

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So what we revealed in the research is if the body has underlying infection and toxicity, the hormones, a woman's hormones will actually intelligently shift themselves out of balance.

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Wow.

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So that means if this is happening at a time when they're already shifting, it could compound the problem, or it could be that it looks like early perimenopause, and it's not.

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Bingo.

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Exactly.

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How do you know?

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How do you know?

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But we also see, we look at even younger women, let's look at the rates of infertility.

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Oh, I know.

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It's astronomical.

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And what happens is, so we have to think, the body responds appropriately to its environment, and I tell people the body doesn't need help, it just needs nothing in the way.

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So the question is, what's in the way?

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So these young women that are trying to have babies, they get arm-wrestled into fertility, and their body's like, hey, I was doing that intelligently.

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I knew what I was doing.

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And then their poor bodies just are like, oh.

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So when you understand that the body is intelligent and it shifts those hormones, but then we know the next step of that research showed us that when a woman's hormones are shifted out of balance, then the nervous system shifts from hormones

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what we call parasympathetic or I'm good, life is good, into a place of like, I'm just trying to get through today.

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And then in that response, then the immune system says, oh, we're not worried about 20 years from now?

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All right, no big deal then.

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And then the circle starts all over again.

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The thing they find so interesting is, you know, 100 years ago, 500 years ago, 1,000 years ago, women had a position, and now we have that position and multiple positions.

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So I always say, you know, we have our home,

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And our kids and then our job.

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So we have all these jobs where it used to be home and kids.

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I know.

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And those are like the afterthought job.

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I have women that come into my practice and they'll say things like, I'm just a stay-at-home mom.

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And I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

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You are not just a... That is... That's the hardest one of all.

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No question about it.

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It's way easier going to work.

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No question about it.

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So you add all of those things together, and then women become hypervigilant.

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They have to keep all of these balls in the air, and then they've shoved themselves into that fight-or-flight mode, and no wonder why their body is just trying to get through today.

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And then that drops the immune system, and then they become...

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The joke I tell people is your body becomes like a frat house without a bouncer.

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Whatever comes in...

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I've never seen a bouncer in a frat house.

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So we didn't have UCLA.

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There were no bouncers in the frat houses.

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Good point.

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That would have been great if there was.

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That would have probably been a good idea.

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What I'd love to do is back up a little bit and just give a great definition of what autoimmune disease is.

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Yes.

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Okay.

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So in my formal training, we were taught that autoimmunity is the immune system going rogue and attacking us.

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And I was going through PhD level neurology training at the time, and I sat with that, JJ, and I was like, the immune system has gone rogue?

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Why would it do that?

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Do you not understand how many wheels have to fall off the bus?

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That doesn't make sense.

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Right, it doesn't make sense.

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So my friend said, well, if it's not what we were taught, then what is it?

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And I said, what if it's responding appropriately?

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And then they said, okay, smarty pants, now explain tissue-specific antibodies, Hashimoto's, rheumatoid, MS.

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So I go back to like war.

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Think of like Vietnam, like jungle warfare.

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It's this thick cover.

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We don't know where the bad guys are.

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We don't know where the good guys are, but everybody's pulling their trigger.

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And sometimes the good guys get in the way of the good guys' bullet.

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So it's friendly fire.

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Now, if we go back to, and again, I have nothing against Western medicine, but they are not figuring this game out.

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So what they're saying is, with that analogy, with immunosuppressive therapy, they're just saying, pull your troops.

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And if you listen to the really fast talkers at the end of the commercials, they'll say, hey, be careful with you.

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Oh, my God.

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you know, be careful if you get a parasite infection, tell your doctor.

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I'm like, how would somebody know?

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How many people actually really test correctly for parasites?

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And by the way, you could test one day and then, you know, it's like, so, okay.

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So there's a lot to unpack here.

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Yeah.

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So the reality of it is if your immune system was really attacking you, I'll say this is what it is.

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You would be dead.

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It does.

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It would just take you out.

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Right.

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So it's so that's that concept is we need to understand what is it up against.

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And you're right.

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I mean, look at look.

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I mean, I grew up in ranching country of North Dakota.

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My uncle raised wheat.

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And what would he do 10 days before he combined his wheat?

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He'd spray it with Roundup.

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But he has a he runs a two million dollar combine.

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He has to dry the weed out and kill the kill the green weeds.

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So it's a case where and it's those simple things.

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Right.

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People try to buy all the fancy things instead of being like, let's just start simple.

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Yeah.

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Most of the things that I've seen over the years that make the biggest difference, you know, and it's, I especially say this now in the world of biohacking, it's like, just go to sleep.

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I don't know.

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Move.

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You know, all the longevity.

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It's like, just move.

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I, you know, I call them gods and grandmas tools.

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What are the things that cost nothing that your body is screaming for?

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And again, it's not, it's not more cold plunges and red lights and IVs and hyperbarics.

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Sleep.

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If you're not sleeping, I don't care what things you're taking.

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You're not going to get well.

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So I love that.

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Back to the basics.

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Back to the basics.

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Okay.

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Someone hearing this and they feel off, you know, they suspect they're in perimenopause, but now they're listening to this going, well, is it perimenopause or is it something else?

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And what would, they're walking in to see you or they're going to see a doctor.

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Where would they start?

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And the question is even like, where do they go?

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Yeah.

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And where do they go?

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Well, there's that major problem.

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Because if you go to an OBGYN, they see the world inside of, right?

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The reality of what I've learned is, don't get me wrong, I love specialists.

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There's a good place for them, but they know too much about not enough, right?

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There's very few good generalists anymore.

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So number one, they need to advocate.

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No one knows your body better than you as the woman that walks into the place.

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So many women have had labs ran, and their labs are normal, and then they get gas lit.

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Right.

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But they're normal, but not optimal anyway.

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So there's that side of it.

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Exactly.

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And we've had to do such a deep dive into that.

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For our listeners, a normal range, they took a large group of women your age that have symptoms and they found the mean or the average.

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So if you're normal, you are the normal average sick woman your age.

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So we have to take a fresh lens.

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And don't get me wrong, we like data, but what happened to the good conversation?

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When can you actually sit down and have a conversation that's longer than the seven-minute visit that's billed by insurance, right?

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Well, that's why here is the reality.

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There are places for insurance.

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Like, my son got hit by a car.

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Thank God we have insurance.

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This was amazing.

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And then once we got him out of the initial, like, he might die, then everything else has not been insurance.

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And the reality is when you're working on a transformation,

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You can't do that in seven minutes and then have them come back in six months.

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These things take work and effort on both sides.

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Everyone's got to lean in to do it.

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So it's a ridiculous system.

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And I know that a lot of these listeners feel the same way.

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Yeah.

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Or maybe, although most of them are not even using insurance for labs anymore because, you know, my buddy Mark Hyman started Function Health.

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And I'm like, thank you for democratizing lab testing.

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But you're also not just data markers.

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Right?

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Like, for example, take women's hormones, the liver and the gut have such a profound interaction with women's hormones that very few people make the correlation of what's your estrogen, progesterone, and testosterone, and how's your liver and gut doing?

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Where are they at?

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And let's talk about why that trifecta matters so much, because I feel like we don't talk about it at all, about what happens when you need to detoxify things, what's going on.

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Right.

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Tell me about that.

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You know, that's good because everyone is selling their magic detox program online and it's a bit frustrating.

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Right.

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The juice cleanse online.

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I have gone on more rants on juice cleanses, so everybody knows this ridiculousness.

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But, I mean, here's the challenge that we also suffer from and idea of when you get an influencer online, they will come out with such authority because they will go with an absolute.

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In science, there are not absolutes.

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There are a very couple, you're alive, you're dead, that's an absolute, but a lot of other stuff is not necessarily an absolute.

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And even then there's kind of a, there's a gray area.

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The challenge is people want absolutes.

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It's easy to follow an absolute, it's hard to follow nuance.

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I know.

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So this is one that we have to get really clear on because the reality is all these things are nuanced.

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Right.

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And so... Yeah, what I would say to that is the right thing done at the wrong time is the wrong thing.

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Yes.

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So in our clinic, we talk about what we call the foundations.

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If I was a builder and you wanted to build a house, after you find the beautiful lot, the first thing we do in the backyard is dig a big, ugly hole and we pour footings.

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This thing has to have something firm to stand upon.

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So we talked about the nervous system.

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Everyone benefits from nervous system regulation.
