WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.131 --> 00:00:02.273 Hey guys, welcome back to the Way UK podcast. 2 00:00:02.353 --> 00:00:06.036 I'm your host Zoe and I'm joined by a friend of the way, Jasper. 3 00:00:06.056 --> 00:00:06.377 Let's go. 4 00:00:06.417 --> 00:00:06.937 Hello, hello. 5 00:00:06.957 --> 00:00:07.658 Welcome on. 6 00:00:07.718 --> 00:00:08.519 Thank you very much. 7 00:00:08.779 --> 00:00:09.540 Pleasant to be here. 8 00:00:09.640 --> 00:00:11.001 Yeah, I'm so happy that you're here. 9 00:00:11.261 --> 00:00:14.884 Guys, you might actually recognise Jasper because he's been on the pod before. 10 00:00:14.964 --> 00:00:17.607 He shared his testimony a while ago now. 11 00:00:17.627 --> 00:00:18.828 It came out like almost a year ago. 12 00:00:19.048 --> 00:00:20.689 Yeah, a little while ago, but I'm back. 13 00:00:20.869 --> 00:00:21.409 He's back. 14 00:00:21.689 --> 00:00:22.889 They didn't get rid of me. 15 00:00:23.390 --> 00:00:23.930 No, we didn't. 16 00:00:24.270 --> 00:00:34.934 And if you want to watch that, it might be linked here if you're watching on YouTube or if you're listening on Spotify or Apple, you can find it somewhere in this vicinity, general. 17 00:00:35.254 --> 00:00:39.856 Anyways, guys, today we are studying 1 John chapter 4. 18 00:00:39.876 --> 00:00:43.497 Okay, if you're watching on YouTube, you see that I have a Bible cover. 19 00:00:43.857 --> 00:00:44.918 My friend got this for me. 20 00:00:46.038 --> 00:00:46.938 You are so proud of this. 21 00:00:46.958 --> 00:00:47.459 I'm really proud of it. 22 00:00:47.479 --> 00:00:48.419 You've been showing it off all morning. 23 00:00:48.439 --> 00:00:49.659 I literally love it so much. 24 00:00:49.899 --> 00:00:53.080 It's kind of gotten a bit bigger, so it's falling off my Bible, but it's okay. 25 00:00:53.620 --> 00:00:53.941 All right. 26 00:00:54.461 --> 00:00:59.502 As you are flipping open to 1 John chapter 4, you guys already know the drill. 27 00:00:59.542 --> 00:01:01.963 Here at The Way, our mission is to share the good news of Jesus with... 28 00:01:02.483 --> 00:01:18.897 every single young person online and something that really helps us with that is if you're watching on YouTube leave a like comment subscribe and if you're listening on Apple podcast or Spotify leave us a little rating and a review because it just helps us get our stuff out there to the general masses so thank you very much roll the credits let's get into it 29 00:01:23.352 --> 00:01:27.758 Before we get into the Bible study, I recommend pausing the video and reading the full chapter for yourself. 30 00:01:28.179 --> 00:01:35.249 Because it is a bigger chunk of scripture, what we're going to do is just go through in chunks instead of verse by verse. 31 00:01:35.469 --> 00:01:40.096 So read the whole thing for yourself and then play this video and we will get straight into the Bible study. 32 00:01:40.616 --> 00:01:46.924 Let's go from verses one to six and then we can give our thoughts. 33 00:01:47.165 --> 00:01:47.425 Okay. 34 00:01:48.306 --> 00:01:49.127 So verse one. 35 00:01:49.488 --> 00:01:56.297 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they're from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. 36 00:01:56.978 --> 00:01:59.101 This is how you can recognize the spirit of God. 37 00:01:59.782 --> 00:02:03.367 Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God. 38 00:02:03.788 --> 00:02:06.732 But every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. 39 00:02:07.293 --> 00:02:11.820 This is the spirit of the Antichrist, which you've heard is coming and even now is already in the world. 40 00:02:13.021 --> 00:02:37.922 you dear children are from god and have overcome them because the one who is in you is greater than the one who is in the world they are from the world and therefore speak from the viewpoint of the world and the world listens to them we are from god and whoever knows god listens to us but whoever is not from god does not listen to us this is how we recognize the spirit of truth in the spirit of falsehood what are your first thoughts after reading that little section 41 00:02:38.533 --> 00:02:40.894 Mate, he goes straight in, doesn't he? 42 00:02:40.994 --> 00:02:41.994 Absolutely, yeah. 43 00:02:42.074 --> 00:02:42.734 He doesn't hold back. 44 00:02:43.034 --> 00:02:46.435 Fun fact, this is actually one of my favourite chapters in the Bible. 45 00:02:46.475 --> 00:02:47.195 This is amazing. 46 00:02:47.395 --> 00:02:48.536 I'm kind of buzzing to be here. 47 00:02:48.636 --> 00:02:49.936 Oh my gosh, unreal. 48 00:02:50.116 --> 00:02:51.036 Yeah, this is great. 49 00:02:51.436 --> 00:02:52.677 But it's interesting, isn't it? 50 00:02:52.697 --> 00:03:00.278 Because John kind of goes, as I say, he kind of goes straight in and he starts off in this sort of chapter being like, right, you need to be on guard. 51 00:03:00.799 --> 00:03:06.260 You need to be testing these spirits, he calls them, between the spirit of truth and... 52 00:03:06.460 --> 00:03:09.222 versus this sort of spirit of falsehood. 53 00:03:09.762 --> 00:03:11.524 And it's interesting, isn't it? 54 00:03:11.644 --> 00:03:14.986 He sort of gives us this test to do it. 55 00:03:15.566 --> 00:03:17.488 Which at first I read and I thought, okay, that makes sense. 56 00:03:17.528 --> 00:03:19.849 But also I don't really know how I'm meant to do that practically. 57 00:03:20.650 --> 00:03:24.192 But he says, doesn't he, I'm reading from verse two. 58 00:03:24.973 --> 00:03:26.694 This is how you can recognize the spirit of God. 59 00:03:27.195 --> 00:03:31.598 Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God. 60 00:03:32.018 --> 00:03:34.800 But every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. 61 00:03:35.340 --> 00:03:37.902 So you've sort of got this test there, haven't you? 62 00:03:37.922 --> 00:03:41.805 Of like, do they recognize who Jesus is? 63 00:03:41.825 --> 00:03:52.853 And it's sort of like if it's a true prophet, if it's a true prophecy, then it will represent the true Jesus as well, which is kind of what he's wanting to combat at this time. 64 00:03:53.313 --> 00:03:55.935 Anything else that you want to add just from that first little bit? 65 00:03:56.215 --> 00:04:08.922 You were saying before off camera that the reason that John was maybe, or one of the reasons that John might have been opening with this, of like, this is the way that you test it, is recognize that Jesus Christ had come in the flesh and is from God. 66 00:04:08.942 --> 00:04:23.651 The other thing is because supposedly some of the false prophets at the time actually didn't struggle with recognizing Jesus, his deity and his divinity, but they just didn't recognize that he was like actually a human. 67 00:04:23.711 --> 00:04:24.091 Is that right? 68 00:04:24.171 --> 00:04:24.691 Yeah, yeah. 69 00:04:24.772 --> 00:04:35.320 So at the time, people were fine believing that Jesus was God, that he was from God, but they struggled to understand this concept that he was also fully human at the same time. 70 00:04:35.660 --> 00:04:41.424 So whereas in today's world, maybe people actually struggle more understanding Jesus is God and they can agree, yeah, he's a historical figure. 71 00:04:41.764 --> 00:04:43.286 Actually, back then it was the opposite. 72 00:04:43.366 --> 00:04:44.006 It's so interesting. 73 00:04:44.026 --> 00:04:50.371 And so that's kind of why he comes down that sort of path of being like, you know, that Jesus is flesh from God. 74 00:04:50.391 --> 00:04:51.292 From God. 75 00:04:51.412 --> 00:04:53.013 He's saying both things need to be true. 76 00:04:53.493 --> 00:05:11.000 the both and and actually if you want to look more into this group they were called like the gnostics at the time um which is kind of where this thought developed where they kind of saw the material as bad right um so if anyone's watching who's kind of is feeling like they want to look into that some more look up the gnostics um it's quite interesting what they believed yes indeed 77 00:05:11.460 --> 00:05:33.368 yeah also i thought it was interesting how john opens here with like a warning and a test he's like bringing the people that he's speaking to of these house churches um awareness of how they should be cautious in receiving prophecy right and i think it reminded me of how we should always be 78 00:05:34.108 --> 00:05:51.375 I guess, um, active in our receiving of teaching from other people when, when it comes to God, like we are responsible to discern, um, and to actively ask, okay, does this align with what the Bible says about Jesus? 79 00:05:51.395 --> 00:05:55.597 Does this, does this align with who the Holy Spirit says Jesus is? 80 00:05:55.657 --> 00:05:55.857 Right. 81 00:05:56.878 --> 00:06:06.612 But I also thought it was interesting because when I first read it and like because many false prophets have gone out into the world in verse one I was like oh yeah like that's definitely relevant today. 82 00:06:06.952 --> 00:06:09.075 There are many false prophets out in the world. 83 00:06:09.556 --> 00:06:10.157 Also he was... 84 00:06:11.238 --> 00:06:25.304 speaking partly about this group that he's already made a nod to in the previous chapters, the false prophets that have the spirit of the Antichrist in them, the spirit of the Antichrist being the people that don't recognize Jesus as the Messiah. 85 00:06:25.404 --> 00:06:26.525 So he's like really... 86 00:06:27.765 --> 00:06:51.561 sending it like this idea that there are these people here that are propagating and just pushing an idea and an agenda that is opposite to that of the truth and and is also one which kind of says what the world wants it to say you know and um i was reminded when i was reading this in uh um i think it's in 2 timothy chapter 4 um where um he says this paul says this 87 00:06:51.961 --> 00:06:55.325 For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. 88 00:06:55.645 --> 00:07:02.652 Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want them to hear. 89 00:07:02.792 --> 00:07:03.473 Itching ears. 90 00:07:03.553 --> 00:07:04.053 Itching ears. 91 00:07:04.073 --> 00:07:05.935 Zoe, do you have itching ears right now? 92 00:07:06.235 --> 00:07:06.856 Not right now, no. 93 00:07:07.136 --> 00:07:07.617 That's good. 94 00:07:07.677 --> 00:07:08.097 I'm glad. 95 00:07:08.958 --> 00:07:14.725 But it's a warning that it's like, you know, John, again, he's reiterating this and being like, you need to be on guard. 96 00:07:14.745 --> 00:07:16.768 Don't need to be afraid, but you need to be on guard. 97 00:07:17.149 --> 00:07:17.409 Yeah. 98 00:07:17.869 --> 00:07:19.592 And that is still relevant for us today. 99 00:07:19.632 --> 00:07:23.457 Like, who are we getting sort of that input from? 100 00:07:23.857 --> 00:07:26.881 You know, again, even if you're watching this, like. 101 00:07:27.161 --> 00:07:27.442 Yeah. 102 00:07:27.902 --> 00:07:28.763 It's the same for us. 103 00:07:28.843 --> 00:07:31.224 You know, we're speaking from the Bible here. 104 00:07:31.324 --> 00:07:34.786 It's important that actually you test what we say as well in that sense. 105 00:07:34.866 --> 00:07:36.007 Please test what we say. 106 00:07:36.167 --> 00:07:38.068 Because that's important. 107 00:07:38.148 --> 00:07:42.731 Actually, we need to be relying on God, not on a certain influencer or something like that. 108 00:07:42.969 --> 00:07:43.810 Yeah, that's so true. 109 00:07:44.210 --> 00:07:52.097 I think as well, it's like being plugged into community and like listening to trusted voices in that community. 110 00:07:52.137 --> 00:08:03.126 I guess that's what John is doing here is he's like, rely on God, but also listen to your leadership and then test that leadership to see if it aligns with what God says. 111 00:08:03.246 --> 00:08:03.727 Right. 112 00:08:03.767 --> 00:08:04.888 So it's important. 113 00:08:04.928 --> 00:08:06.109 Be plugged into community. 114 00:08:06.389 --> 00:08:08.291 Make sure you've got trusted voices around you. 115 00:08:08.851 --> 00:08:09.552 And test what they say. 116 00:08:10.993 --> 00:08:14.717 Another thing that you said that reminded me of another thing. 117 00:08:14.737 --> 00:08:16.099 Oh, the cycle. 118 00:08:18.001 --> 00:08:21.204 Like how you were talking about fear and that we don't need to fear. 119 00:08:22.906 --> 00:08:29.332 Like verse four, you, dear children, are from God and have overcome them because the one who is in you is greater than the one who is in the world. 120 00:08:29.913 --> 00:08:30.954 And it's like. 121 00:08:32.255 --> 00:08:40.823 So I think it's really easy to forget that God literally lives in us and he has actually overcome everything. 122 00:08:40.843 --> 00:08:41.844 Like God has the victory. 123 00:08:41.904 --> 00:08:42.685 Jesus has won. 124 00:08:43.185 --> 00:08:46.629 And so it reminded me of 2 Timothy 2, but a different verse. 125 00:08:46.669 --> 00:08:51.893 It says, for God gave us a spirit, not a fear, but of power and love and self-control. 126 00:08:52.774 --> 00:09:01.479 So it's like the spirit that lives within us is one of power and it has overcome the world, I guess, just backing it up with other scripture. 127 00:09:01.839 --> 00:09:04.841 But, yeah, I thought that was really cool. 128 00:09:04.961 --> 00:09:05.261 Yeah. 129 00:09:05.381 --> 00:09:09.284 That we don't have to fear or worry because God is greater and stronger. 130 00:09:09.404 --> 00:09:09.624 Yeah. 131 00:09:10.244 --> 00:09:10.524 Yeah. 132 00:09:10.544 --> 00:09:11.145 No, come on. 133 00:09:11.325 --> 00:09:11.625 Amen. 134 00:09:11.934 --> 00:09:12.274 All right. 135 00:09:12.294 --> 00:09:12.975 Should we move on? 136 00:09:13.516 --> 00:09:13.996 Let's move on. 137 00:09:14.017 --> 00:09:14.497 Let's move on. 138 00:09:14.517 --> 00:09:15.338 Yeah, let's get going. 139 00:09:15.498 --> 00:09:18.942 Next little section, we split up to verse 7 to 12. 140 00:09:19.663 --> 00:09:22.707 So Jasper, would you like to read this? 141 00:09:22.747 --> 00:09:25.350 Because this is your favorite. 142 00:09:25.650 --> 00:09:26.611 This is my favorite chapter. 143 00:09:26.631 --> 00:09:27.893 And then this is like my favorite bit. 144 00:09:27.913 --> 00:09:28.634 The most favorite bit. 145 00:09:28.694 --> 00:09:29.515 It's actually so cool. 146 00:09:29.555 --> 00:09:30.616 Okay, you go ahead. 147 00:09:30.636 --> 00:09:31.137 Take it away. 148 00:09:31.257 --> 00:09:31.677 Let's go. 149 00:09:32.238 --> 00:09:37.619 So from verse seven, dear friends, let us love one another for love comes from God. 150 00:09:38.139 --> 00:09:40.740 Everyone who loves has been born of God and knows God. 151 00:09:41.120 --> 00:09:44.460 Whoever does not love does not know God because God is love. 152 00:09:44.980 --> 00:09:46.941 This is how God showed his love among us. 153 00:09:47.661 --> 00:09:52.242 He sent his one and only son into the world that we might live through him. 154 00:09:52.862 --> 00:09:53.422 This is love. 155 00:09:53.842 --> 00:09:59.523 Not that we loved God, but that he loved us and sent his son as an atoning sacrifice for our sins. 156 00:10:00.203 --> 00:10:04.506 Dear friends, since God so loved us, we also ought to love one another. 157 00:10:05.047 --> 00:10:12.272 No one has ever seen God, but if we love one another, God lives in us and his love is made complete in us. 158 00:10:13.440 --> 00:10:14.060 Woohoo. 159 00:10:14.160 --> 00:10:14.601 Let's go. 160 00:10:14.881 --> 00:10:16.522 Love, love. 161 00:10:17.262 --> 00:10:17.783 Lots of love. 162 00:10:17.803 --> 00:10:19.544 Yeah, lots of love in here. 163 00:10:19.724 --> 00:10:24.427 This chapter says the word love the most out of any other chapter. 164 00:10:24.547 --> 00:10:25.127 In the Bible? 165 00:10:25.327 --> 00:10:25.848 I looked it up. 166 00:10:26.028 --> 00:10:26.688 How many times? 167 00:10:27.089 --> 00:10:27.609 I think it's 27. 168 00:10:27.649 --> 00:10:28.469 Yeah, it's 27. 169 00:10:28.529 --> 00:10:30.651 Yeah, I thought it was 26 before. 170 00:10:30.851 --> 00:10:31.151 I did. 171 00:10:31.411 --> 00:10:32.472 We got it. 172 00:10:32.652 --> 00:10:33.212 We looked it up. 173 00:10:33.272 --> 00:10:34.033 I correct myself. 174 00:10:34.313 --> 00:10:35.314 No, that's so good. 175 00:10:35.614 --> 00:10:38.917 Okay, what are your thoughts on your favourite passage of scripture in the whole Bible? 176 00:10:39.077 --> 00:10:40.178 Yeah, let's go. 177 00:10:40.198 --> 00:10:53.869 I think it's really interesting here because John kind of, where we sort of finish the last bit, the first sort of section of this chapter, John was kind of being like, okay, true prophet, true prophecy will represent the true Jesus. 178 00:10:54.349 --> 00:10:57.052 And then the question is, okay, well, what is the true Jesus? 179 00:10:57.092 --> 00:10:58.233 How do we know the true Jesus? 180 00:10:58.253 --> 00:10:58.653 Yeah. 181 00:10:58.813 --> 00:11:05.476 And this is where he really kind of doubles down a little bit and be like, okay, well, you'll know the true Jesus by the love of God, because God is love. 182 00:11:05.996 --> 00:11:13.439 And I think this bit is really interesting where we kind of probably want to clarify a few things because he speaks about, as we said already, he says the word love quite a bit. 183 00:11:14.399 --> 00:11:17.041 But for us, well, we might just have this one word for love. 184 00:11:17.621 --> 00:11:21.562 The Greek has so many more, I think up to eight different words. 185 00:11:21.622 --> 00:11:27.685 You know, you've got some which are referred to like the flirtatious, the sort of playful sort of love. 186 00:11:27.705 --> 00:11:28.025 Playful, fun. 187 00:11:28.645 --> 00:11:55.564 you've got others which are like the the sort of love between a partner or family or friends but the love that john is referring to here and the word he's using is the word agape which is like it's it's a it's a beautiful word it's it's really fun to say as well agape um but it's like it's this deep pure unconditional form of love like this is not like got like john's not just saying like the bare minimum here he's saying no like we're going deeper 188 00:11:55.824 --> 00:11:59.828 Because this is the nature of our God. 189 00:12:01.409 --> 00:12:06.013 And so it kind of comes to the question of, okay, well, what is the definition of God? 190 00:12:06.333 --> 00:12:06.934 Well, it's love. 191 00:12:07.434 --> 00:12:08.696 And what is the definition of love? 192 00:12:09.336 --> 00:12:09.897 Well, it's God. 193 00:12:10.357 --> 00:12:11.338 Do you see what I mean? 194 00:12:11.418 --> 00:12:13.940 It's that kind of two-way sort of thing. 195 00:12:13.980 --> 00:12:15.041 So to know what love is. 196 00:12:15.962 --> 00:12:18.084 is to know who love is at the same time. 197 00:12:18.204 --> 00:12:23.969 And as Christians, you know, as we're sitting here, me and you Zoe, we've encountered that. 198 00:12:24.069 --> 00:12:25.150 We've encountered that love. 199 00:12:25.170 --> 00:12:27.612 We've encountered that same God. 200 00:12:28.353 --> 00:12:34.538 And it kind of reminds me of 1 Corinthians 13, the sort of famous one you might hear at weddings. 201 00:12:34.598 --> 00:12:35.339 Love is patient. 202 00:12:35.359 --> 00:12:36.020 Love is kind. 203 00:12:36.040 --> 00:12:36.500 Love is patient. 204 00:12:36.620 --> 00:12:37.440 God is patient. 205 00:12:37.661 --> 00:12:38.141 God is kind. 206 00:12:38.161 --> 00:12:42.423 It's that same word Agape used there as well, which is really encouraging. 207 00:12:42.443 --> 00:12:48.346 But yeah, I thought I'd just get that out there because I think that's a really important thing to mention about actually this type of love. 208 00:12:48.726 --> 00:12:53.289 It's deeper than just a love you might have for a friend or for a type of food. 209 00:12:53.529 --> 00:13:01.015 Yeah, no, I love this section as well because it does just point to the gospel and what Jesus has done for us and why he did it for us, which is his love for us. 210 00:13:01.595 --> 00:13:06.298 And I mean, I know you have something to say about the dear friends piece. 211 00:13:06.338 --> 00:13:06.899 Yeah, yeah. 212 00:13:06.919 --> 00:13:11.662 So, but no, you say it and then I want to say my other thing. 213 00:13:12.463 --> 00:13:14.765 But like, tell us what you notice about the dear friends. 214 00:13:14.825 --> 00:13:15.105 Yeah. 215 00:13:15.325 --> 00:13:21.971 So you might have noticed already just from us reading the whole sort of chapter out that he uses the phrase dear friends quite a bit. 216 00:13:22.091 --> 00:13:26.415 He uses it three times in this chapter and then he uses it elsewhere in previous chapters. 217 00:13:26.435 --> 00:13:27.836 Yeah. 218 00:13:28.037 --> 00:13:31.680 And this sort of phrase dear friends is probably more literally translated to beloved. 219 00:13:32.100 --> 00:13:37.065 So beloved do not believe every spirit or beloved since God so loved us. 220 00:13:37.085 --> 00:13:40.448 You know that that's that's why it's more literally translated to. 221 00:13:41.489 --> 00:13:46.974 And as I looked into this some more, this word that's used actually comes from that word agape again. 222 00:13:47.354 --> 00:13:49.937 So I believe in the Greek it's agapetos. 223 00:13:50.257 --> 00:13:51.598 I'm probably butchering that. 224 00:13:51.618 --> 00:13:53.540 No, that would sound great to me. 225 00:13:55.241 --> 00:14:00.987 And actually, this is a beautiful sort of thing here that John's kind of weaving throughout this whole chapter. 226 00:14:01.007 --> 00:14:04.590 He's reminding us constantly of our identity, that we are his beloved. 227 00:14:05.050 --> 00:14:06.231 And even more interestingly, 228 00:14:07.032 --> 00:14:10.295 This is the same word that is used at Jesus' baptism. 229 00:14:10.735 --> 00:14:18.802 So when Jesus gets baptised and they hear this voice and it's the Father's voice saying, this is my beloved son with whom I'm well pleased. 230 00:14:19.262 --> 00:14:20.423 That is that same word there. 231 00:14:20.843 --> 00:14:27.929 So actually this sort of identity of being one who is loved, who is beloved, that is what John is wanting to get really into us. 232 00:14:28.590 --> 00:14:30.011 That is who we are in Christ. 233 00:14:30.051 --> 00:14:31.132 We are his beloved. 234 00:14:31.512 --> 00:14:34.434 That's a beautiful, beautiful reminder that in all of this, 235 00:14:35.215 --> 00:14:36.236 That is where we start from. 236 00:14:36.496 --> 00:14:37.036 He's beloved. 237 00:14:37.496 --> 00:14:43.159 That is so good as well, because I feel like John is saying some quite big things or like giving quite big warnings. 238 00:14:43.660 --> 00:14:46.481 But he's like, hey, hey, come back to the first thing. 239 00:14:46.501 --> 00:14:47.582 This is who you are. 240 00:14:47.802 --> 00:14:54.546 And it's like, it doesn't have to be scary because you're loved by God and he is stronger and powerful. 241 00:14:55.046 --> 00:14:59.853 And when I was reading this, it reminded me of another verse in John, the Gospel of John. 242 00:15:00.654 --> 00:15:00.894 John 15. 243 00:15:00.954 --> 00:15:02.016 Lots of Johns. 244 00:15:02.076 --> 00:15:03.217 Yes, so many Johns. 245 00:15:03.718 --> 00:15:09.065 In John 15, verse 9, which earlier on camera I tried to remember it, but I couldn't remember it. 246 00:15:09.085 --> 00:15:11.349 I was like, oh wait, I've written it down somewhere. 247 00:15:11.809 --> 00:15:13.030 And I have written it down somewhere. 248 00:15:13.150 --> 00:15:17.872 And it's, um, as the Jesus saying, as the fathers love me, so have I loved you. 249 00:15:17.892 --> 00:15:18.792 Like abide in me. 250 00:15:19.372 --> 00:15:24.054 Um, and I just thought, yeah, this is how we'll be. 251 00:15:24.835 --> 00:15:26.415 This is how God is to us. 252 00:15:26.455 --> 00:15:27.056 He is love. 253 00:15:27.536 --> 00:15:29.537 Um, but anyways, I want to show the page. 254 00:15:29.617 --> 00:15:30.457 Yeah, this is the page. 255 00:15:30.497 --> 00:15:32.858 This is why I should have remembered it, but I didn't. 256 00:15:33.298 --> 00:15:33.538 Sorry. 257 00:15:33.558 --> 00:15:34.899 If you're listening, you'll see this. 258 00:15:35.287 --> 00:15:40.452 So Zoe just like turns to me earlier and it's like, yeah, I think I wrote, I wrote this verse down somewhere in my journal. 259 00:15:40.512 --> 00:15:41.553 I just, I can't remember it. 260 00:15:41.573 --> 00:15:42.053 Where is it? 261 00:15:42.073 --> 00:15:43.815 And it just pulls up this page. 262 00:15:44.075 --> 00:15:47.459 Just the entire two pages just covered in this verse. 263 00:15:47.659 --> 00:15:48.440 But I can remember it. 264 00:15:48.460 --> 00:15:49.821 Anyways, side quest. 265 00:15:49.841 --> 00:15:50.141 Brilliant. 266 00:15:50.161 --> 00:15:50.602 Thanks for that. 267 00:15:50.842 --> 00:15:51.422 No problem. 268 00:15:51.442 --> 00:15:53.084 A little show and tell moment. 269 00:15:53.164 --> 00:15:53.865 Really good, Zoe. 270 00:15:54.085 --> 00:15:57.328 Okay, let's move on to the next section, which is verses 13 to 17. 271 00:15:57.368 --> 00:15:58.329 Let's do it. 272 00:15:58.709 --> 00:15:58.909 Okay. 273 00:15:59.690 --> 00:16:02.071 This is how we know that we live in him and he in us. 274 00:16:02.591 --> 00:16:09.033 He has given us of his spirit and we have seen and testify that the father has sent his son to be the savior of the world. 275 00:16:09.713 --> 00:16:14.695 If anyone acknowledges that Jesus is the son of God, God lives in them and they in God. 276 00:16:15.395 --> 00:16:19.316 And so we know and rely on the love of on the love God has for us. 277 00:16:20.317 --> 00:16:21.037 God is love. 278 00:16:21.537 --> 00:16:25.078 Whoever lives in love lives in God and God in them. 279 00:16:25.438 --> 00:16:26.078 What are your thoughts? 280 00:16:26.298 --> 00:16:37.940 My thoughts are, well, the thing that I noticed here was in verse 15 when John says, if anyone acknowledges that Jesus is the son of God, God lives in them and they in God. 281 00:16:38.960 --> 00:16:49.442 It's kind of similar to in verse two when he says how we can recognize if a spirit is of God, which is acknowledging that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh and is from God. 282 00:16:49.462 --> 00:16:50.202 Yeah. 283 00:16:50.522 --> 00:17:07.582 how in verse two it's like recognizing jesus's manhood and humanity but here in this verse it's also recognizing jesus jesus's divinity he's kind of circling back around isn't he yeah like this idea of of like the spirit of truth the spirit of truth and how we can discern it 284 00:17:08.442 --> 00:17:26.762 yeah yeah sorry no no no it's true and like it's basically just painting the full picture of this is the true jesus like don't forget the one like we can't have the one without the other jesus is fully god and fully man so don't like don't forget that that's what i noticed when i when i read it um 285 00:17:27.903 --> 00:17:28.103 Yeah. 286 00:17:28.244 --> 00:17:29.825 And also in verse 16. 287 00:17:29.865 --> 00:17:33.530 And so we know and rely on the love God has for us. 288 00:17:34.651 --> 00:17:39.677 Like, I think there's, that's just so powerful that we can rely on the love of God. 289 00:17:39.717 --> 00:17:41.019 We can like lean. 290 00:17:41.099 --> 00:17:41.780 It reminds me of that song. 291 00:17:41.800 --> 00:17:44.863 It's like, just lean back in the loving arms of your beautiful father. 292 00:17:44.883 --> 00:17:46.065 Are you going to sing it? 293 00:17:46.545 --> 00:17:47.586 No, I almost did though. 294 00:17:48.386 --> 00:17:48.986 I almost did. 295 00:17:49.046 --> 00:17:50.647 So sorry, sorry to everyone. 296 00:17:51.007 --> 00:17:57.430 But it's like we can actually trust that God's love is enough for us. 297 00:17:57.530 --> 00:17:58.710 It's more than enough for us. 298 00:17:58.810 --> 00:17:59.531 It covers us. 299 00:18:00.251 --> 00:18:02.172 It fills us. 300 00:18:02.192 --> 00:18:04.393 It's our identity. 301 00:18:04.973 --> 00:18:07.815 And yeah, we get to live from this place. 302 00:18:07.875 --> 00:18:16.602 It's like, of course, John was writing to the different house churches here, but of like them being the beloved of Jesus, but that's also us. 303 00:18:16.843 --> 00:18:22.187 And so we get to live from this identity and trust that God loves us and knows us. 304 00:18:22.207 --> 00:18:23.948 Thank you, Lord. 305 00:18:24.088 --> 00:18:24.449 Amen. 306 00:18:24.809 --> 00:18:26.810 But what are your thoughts on this? 307 00:18:26.830 --> 00:18:27.411 Have you got a few? 308 00:18:27.911 --> 00:18:28.432 Yeah. 309 00:18:28.852 --> 00:18:29.252 Yeah. 310 00:18:29.453 --> 00:18:32.075 Again, this is just, this past, this chapter is just amazing. 311 00:18:32.555 --> 00:18:34.896 It just gets better and better, doesn't it? 312 00:18:34.936 --> 00:18:35.856 You're just covered in love. 313 00:18:36.356 --> 00:18:37.256 Oh, thanks, God. 314 00:18:37.657 --> 00:18:40.397 I was really interested by kind of what John says again. 315 00:18:40.417 --> 00:18:45.179 He said it once before, actually, in the previous section we looked at, where he says God is love. 316 00:18:46.419 --> 00:18:48.280 He says that again in verse 16. 317 00:18:48.460 --> 00:18:49.420 You can see that God is love. 318 00:18:49.480 --> 00:18:52.041 Whoever lives in love lives in God and God in them. 319 00:18:52.841 --> 00:18:57.642 And I just started to think a bit about like, okay, what does that actually, you know, mean a bit more? 320 00:18:58.703 --> 00:19:00.023 So about God being love. 321 00:19:01.143 --> 00:19:06.305 And I started to think, you know, God is not love because of anything we've done. 322 00:19:06.885 --> 00:19:09.205 You know, I know I fail him each day. 323 00:19:09.225 --> 00:19:10.746 Oh yeah, me too. 324 00:19:11.006 --> 00:19:14.187 God's also not love because of how he sent Jesus down to down a cross. 325 00:19:14.247 --> 00:19:16.327 So that is evidence that he is love. 326 00:19:16.667 --> 00:19:18.088 But that's not what made him love. 327 00:19:18.528 --> 00:19:19.148 God is love. 328 00:19:19.828 --> 00:19:20.769 Because he is love. 329 00:19:21.010 --> 00:19:26.698 Because in the person of the Trinity, there is that beautiful relationship there of love. 330 00:19:26.938 --> 00:19:30.303 The father loves the son as the son loves the spirit as the spirit loves the father. 331 00:19:30.323 --> 00:19:34.048 The adoration of one becomes the adoration of the other. 332 00:19:34.709 --> 00:19:36.632 And it's this beautiful relationship 333 00:19:36.792 --> 00:19:39.553 sort of reminder that actually that is who God is. 334 00:19:39.633 --> 00:19:45.496 It's, it's not like, you know, he's, he's needed us to, to be sort of who he is. 335 00:19:45.696 --> 00:19:48.877 Actually, he just delights in relationship with us. 336 00:19:49.257 --> 00:19:51.278 He is love because he's love because he's love. 337 00:19:51.398 --> 00:19:51.998 Yeah. 338 00:19:52.159 --> 00:19:55.660 And he welcomes us into that for us to live in him and he and us. 339 00:19:55.740 --> 00:19:56.480 Thank you, Jesus. 340 00:19:56.620 --> 00:19:57.461 That's beautiful. 341 00:19:58.601 --> 00:20:01.823 And then from that place, because we then live in him, um, 342 00:20:02.763 --> 00:20:05.064 we can have confidence on the day of judgment. 343 00:20:05.084 --> 00:20:10.246 I'm now looking at verse 17 so that we can have confidence in the day of judgment in this world. 344 00:20:10.426 --> 00:20:11.426 We are like Jesus. 345 00:20:12.047 --> 00:20:22.551 And so when that day comes, you know, where, where we'll be standing before judgment, actually we don't need to be afraid because we are in him. 346 00:20:22.611 --> 00:20:28.253 So that when God, the father looks at us, he doesn't look at our sin, but he looks at Jesus's righteousness. 347 00:20:28.433 --> 00:20:50.688 wow hallelujah hallelujah wow like what a beautiful sort of reminder that it's because we are abiding in him it's what you're saying earlier you know abiding in his love yeah we're resting in him he lives in us and we live in him and and that is why he is love yeah because we don't deserve it but he poured it out anyway he just is i do come did i did i read verse 17 earlier 348 00:20:51.408 --> 00:20:55.473 Sorry, I just realised I actually didn't read 17 out, but that was supposed to be in that section. 349 00:20:55.594 --> 00:20:56.795 I know, and I just didn't. 350 00:20:56.995 --> 00:20:57.676 That's all right. 351 00:20:57.756 --> 00:20:59.018 I just got a bit too excited. 352 00:20:59.098 --> 00:21:00.039 No, no, no, you didn't. 353 00:21:00.460 --> 00:21:02.062 But okay, I guess I'll read it now. 354 00:21:02.723 --> 00:21:07.549 This is how love is made complete among us so that we will have confidence on the day of judgment. 355 00:21:08.050 --> 00:21:09.612 In this world, we are like Jesus. 356 00:21:10.072 --> 00:21:17.054 And to emphasize on what you were just saying about that, of how when God looks at us, he actually sees Jesus' righteousness. 357 00:21:17.654 --> 00:21:23.937 It reminded me of that verse in Colossians 1, verse 22, which we actually both thought was in Hebrews. 358 00:21:25.457 --> 00:21:26.397 It's not, it's here. 359 00:21:26.757 --> 00:21:37.741 And it says, but now God has reconciled you by Christ's physical body through death to present you holy in his sight without blemish and free from accusation. 360 00:21:38.868 --> 00:21:39.268 Oh man. 361 00:21:39.349 --> 00:21:39.529 Sorry. 362 00:21:39.549 --> 00:21:40.369 I just wanted to read that. 363 00:21:40.389 --> 00:21:42.331 Cause I'm just like, thank you God. 364 00:21:42.351 --> 00:21:43.072 Just sitting in glory. 365 00:21:43.172 --> 00:21:44.373 Just sitting in glory. 366 00:21:44.493 --> 00:21:45.073 Like, thank you. 367 00:21:45.093 --> 00:21:45.694 Hallelujah. 368 00:21:46.274 --> 00:21:46.535 Okay. 369 00:21:47.055 --> 00:21:47.295 Okay. 370 00:21:47.455 --> 00:21:48.196 We're almost there. 371 00:21:48.396 --> 00:21:49.898 Let's do 18 and 19. 372 00:21:50.758 --> 00:21:57.124 There is no fear in love, but perfect love drives out fear because fear has to do with punishment. 373 00:21:57.684 --> 00:21:59.946 The one who fears is not made perfect in love. 374 00:22:01.007 --> 00:22:02.768 We love because he first loved us. 375 00:22:03.869 --> 00:22:04.090 Wow. 376 00:22:04.930 --> 00:22:05.631 What have you got to say? 377 00:22:06.848 --> 00:22:07.709 What have I got to say? 378 00:22:07.749 --> 00:22:08.729 What have you got to say? 379 00:22:08.950 --> 00:22:12.852 Honestly, I read this last night when I was kind of going through this chapter and stuff again. 380 00:22:13.753 --> 00:22:15.554 And I just kind of had to sit there for a minute. 381 00:22:15.635 --> 00:22:16.795 I just kind of had to deep it. 382 00:22:16.895 --> 00:22:19.257 I was like, you almost don't really want to add too much on. 383 00:22:19.297 --> 00:22:21.899 It's just, it's so, it's so beautiful. 384 00:22:21.959 --> 00:22:22.360 And I think... 385 00:22:23.060 --> 00:22:28.303 For me, as I read it, I just started to think about all the areas in my life where I'm perhaps already, you know, fearful of stuff. 386 00:22:29.044 --> 00:22:35.547 Whether that be fearful of the future or fearful of friendships or relationships with people, you know, whatever it might be. 387 00:22:36.508 --> 00:22:42.632 Actually, I don't need to be because this is this perfect love which God has offered me, which drives out fear. 388 00:22:43.392 --> 00:22:45.873 And I think a point of clarification is probably good. 389 00:22:46.253 --> 00:22:50.595 What John's saying is he's not saying that if you're fearful that you're being a bad Christian. 390 00:22:50.615 --> 00:22:50.675 No. 391 00:22:51.216 --> 00:22:54.857 He's actually just saying, no, look, there is so much more in store for you. 392 00:22:54.877 --> 00:22:57.799 There is so much more that God wants to pour out to you. 393 00:22:58.719 --> 00:22:59.019 His love. 394 00:22:59.059 --> 00:23:00.140 Which is what he's saying there. 395 00:23:00.220 --> 00:23:02.621 He's like, actually, come and abide in that love. 396 00:23:02.981 --> 00:23:04.562 And you'll see all that fear. 397 00:23:05.222 --> 00:23:30.427 will soon come to pass because you are secure secure in him um so yeah i just kind of i just had quite a deep moment last night i was just sitting there i was like yeah wow i mean it's a good one to have a deep moment over it makes it i can't rush past it sometimes you need to do that when reading the bible yeah you gotta stop and just sit in it and just sit in it i think it's beautiful meditate on the scriptures yeah you know i love that jasper no fear in love it's amazing it's beautiful okay 398 00:23:31.167 --> 00:23:35.271 And also, sorry, quickly, verse 19, we love because he first loved us. 399 00:23:35.371 --> 00:23:41.055 It's like we actually get to draw from the well of living water that is Jesus. 400 00:23:41.556 --> 00:23:43.197 And he's the well that never runs dry. 401 00:23:43.697 --> 00:23:50.963 And so whenever we feel like we don't have love to give to our fellow brothers and sisters or whoever it is that's around us in our lives, 402 00:23:51.424 --> 00:24:07.843 in our daily lives we actually can ask god to give us the love to give to them and he like he's he's a he's he has love he can give it abundantly so yeah wow we can ask for it hey thanks jesus okay thanks mate 403 00:24:08.183 --> 00:24:08.884 Thanks, mate. 404 00:24:09.484 --> 00:24:10.625 What a friend we have in Jesus. 405 00:24:10.706 --> 00:24:12.527 Okay, final two verses. 406 00:24:12.847 --> 00:24:14.129 Would you like to read the final two? 407 00:24:14.229 --> 00:24:15.049 I can read the final two. 408 00:24:15.270 --> 00:24:15.930 Take away. 409 00:24:15.990 --> 00:24:16.871 There we go. 410 00:24:16.971 --> 00:24:17.812 Verse 20 to 21. 411 00:24:18.473 --> 00:24:22.596 Whoever claims to love God yet hates a brother or sister is a liar. 412 00:24:23.057 --> 00:24:28.482 Whoever does not love their brother or sister whom they have seen cannot love God whom they have not seen. 413 00:24:28.982 --> 00:24:30.183 And he has given us this command. 414 00:24:30.684 --> 00:24:34.367 Anyone who loves God must also love their brother and sister. 415 00:24:35.863 --> 00:24:36.363 Interesting. 416 00:24:36.723 --> 00:24:45.347 Seems like John is really kind of finishing off of some like proper application, like, okay, now you need to like lock in and live this out. 417 00:24:45.407 --> 00:24:49.808 Don't walk away from this, from this book and do other stuff. 418 00:24:49.989 --> 00:24:51.049 You need to be living this out. 419 00:24:51.189 --> 00:24:51.429 Yeah. 420 00:24:51.689 --> 00:24:52.169 I love that. 421 00:24:52.469 --> 00:24:55.971 It is also one of those that it's like very much what it says on the tin. 422 00:24:56.211 --> 00:25:05.934 It's like, he's being very clear here that you can't claim to love God and yet have hate in your heart for a fellow brother or a sister. 423 00:25:07.254 --> 00:25:16.658 When I read it, it reminded me of, um, how God's heart for his church is to be united and to love one another. 424 00:25:17.138 --> 00:25:17.438 I think 425 00:25:19.022 --> 00:25:24.641 like of how God is united with himself, you know, in the Trinity, how they, like what you're saying earlier, how, 426 00:25:25.942 --> 00:25:28.823 they love one another and are united together. 427 00:25:29.383 --> 00:25:36.905 And as Christians, we're supposed to bear the image of God, bear the image of Christ and reflect Christ's character. 428 00:25:37.565 --> 00:25:52.008 And to me, that's like a calling to unity and seeking out unity instead of division and instead of latching onto resentment or hate or annoyance or frustrations or whatever it is. 429 00:25:56.369 --> 00:26:23.310 going back to that well of living water which is jesus and which is his love for us and asking him to help us if there is like an annoyance or frustration or whatever it is that comes up with um like a fellow brother or sister in christ it's like okay god you give me the love you give me the patience you give me the kindness that i need to show love to my fellow brother or sister in christ um because it's important to god that his that his 430 00:26:24.170 --> 00:26:40.257 family is united and loves one another well you know it's like jesus says that to his disciples is it in john 13 uh is it yeah john 13 35 he says by this everyone will know that you are my disciples if you love one another 431 00:26:42.018 --> 00:26:42.718 So let's do it. 432 00:26:42.858 --> 00:26:45.039 And sorry, it's way easier said than done. 433 00:26:45.420 --> 00:26:45.700 Yeah. 434 00:26:46.020 --> 00:26:48.321 But it's the call of Christ. 435 00:26:48.561 --> 00:26:48.821 Yeah. 436 00:26:49.081 --> 00:26:52.743 But also that's, as you've already said, that's why we can rely on him. 437 00:26:53.503 --> 00:26:53.863 Yes. 438 00:26:54.164 --> 00:26:55.864 I know I'm not very good at that sometimes. 439 00:26:55.904 --> 00:26:56.825 Yeah. 440 00:26:57.145 --> 00:27:02.327 But actually, I think the challenge to all of us today off the back of this is how are we, how are we treating people? 441 00:27:02.347 --> 00:27:05.008 Are we treating them as though they are someone that Jesus died for? 442 00:27:05.569 --> 00:27:07.550 Because the truth is, is that he did. 443 00:27:07.570 --> 00:27:07.730 He did. 444 00:27:08.610 --> 00:27:35.908 um so yeah the truth of our identity it must it must affect the outworking of our lives and how we love one another yeah um so yeah i love that a challenge there bit of a challenge thanks john thanks jesus we love you okay guys thank you so much for tuning in to this bible study we have one final chapter left of this book so stay tuned for that what should they comment jasper 445 00:27:36.513 --> 00:27:40.135 I think people should comment who they are going to show love to today. 446 00:27:40.535 --> 00:27:43.837 So who are you going to display this outworking of love? 447 00:27:44.057 --> 00:27:44.538 Love that. 448 00:27:44.638 --> 00:27:44.858 Yeah. 449 00:27:44.918 --> 00:27:45.878 That is so wholesome. 450 00:27:45.899 --> 00:27:46.759 Okay. 451 00:27:47.039 --> 00:27:48.360 Well, guys, thanks for tuning in. 452 00:27:48.520 --> 00:27:49.841 We hope to see you in the next one. 453 00:27:50.201 --> 00:27:53.223 And we hope you have a blessed rest of your day, night or evening. 454 00:27:53.743 --> 00:27:54.524 Bye. 455 00:27:54.584 --> 00:27:55.044 Goodbye.