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Hey there guys, welcome back to another episode on The Way UK.

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My name is Jasper, if we haven't met before, and I'm joined by the lovely... Michelle.

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Michelle.

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It's great to have you here, Michelle.

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And today we have a very special guest because we have got Greg Steer with us.

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Oh yeah.

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Welcome Greg.

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So glad to be here.

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Come on, we are buzzing to have you here.

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Now, if you don't know Greg, Greg is an author, a speaker, an evangelist, and the founder of the incredible ministry Dare to Share.

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And I can work in nunchucks, I'm just saying.

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Oh, wow.

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He didn't mention that before we started.

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I have tricks that you don't know.

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Come on, let's go.

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Let's go.

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Dare to Share is a wonderful ministry.

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We're going to be hearing a bit more about it later on.

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All about mobilizing us, particularly young people and sharing the gospel with those around them.

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And as part of this, one of their initiatives is something called the Day of Global Youth Evangelism.

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Now, you guys might know if you've been seeing any of our videos recently, we've been doing something called the campus tours.

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We've been going around to lots of different cities and stuff like that to go and share the gospel, see what God's up to.

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And on the 14th of November, we're going to be joining thousands, literally thousands of other young people across the world, hitting the streets and sharing the gospel.

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So we're going to be talking a bit more about it later.

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But if you want to sign up and get involved, tell your youth leader, Dale Globiofangelism on the 14th of November today.

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It's going to be a lot of fun.

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But before we get into all of that, guys, you know that our mission here at The Way is to share the good news of Jesus with every single young person online.

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That would really be appreciated.

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But let's get straight to it.

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Roll the credits.

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Greg, hello.

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Hello, Jasper.

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Hello, welcome to the podcast.

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It is such a joy to have you with us.

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Could you just start?

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Tell us a little bit about life growing up.

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What was family life growing up?

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Where are you from?

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Yeah, I'm from Denver, Colorado.

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Let's go.

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In the United States, I was raised in an inner city urban area.

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home.

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I always say I don't come from a typical religious, church-going, pew-sitting, hymn-singing family.

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I come from a family filled with bodybuilding, tobacco, chewing, and beer-drinking thugs.

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And that's just the women, sadly.

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So seriously, three of my uncles were competitive bodybuilders.

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The fourth one was a bouncer at the toughest bar in our city.

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The fifth one was a boxer, championship boxer, judo champion, war hero.

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I was like young Sheldon.

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If you've seen the American show, a terrified, nerdy little kid that somehow got in this crazy family.

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My mom was the only girl in this group, and all my uncles were afraid of her.

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She used a baseball bat when she fought.

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My family was not organized crime.

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They were disorganized crime.

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They were just very violent.

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And so I was terrified.

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I was terrified because we were in a high crime rate area of our city, the highest crime rate area.

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I was terrified of my own family because my family was considered, you know—

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My uncles were called the crazy brothers by the Denver mafia.

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So when the mafia thinks your family's dysfunctional, that's bad.

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So I just didn't know how I got stuck in this family.

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And so I was, I honestly, I was just terrified.

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And because I didn't know my dad, I was a result of a one night stand.

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So, and my mom actually drove across the country from Denver to Boston to have an illegal abortion.

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Gosh.

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And changed her mind last minute.

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My Uncle Tommy talked her out of it.

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So when, you know, I was raised in this family, my ma would look at me, and she would just start weeping, like crying.

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And I had no idea why when I was 12 years old when I found out the whole story.

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So I was confused.

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I was scared.

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I was intimidated.

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And, yeah, it wasn't pleasant.

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Bless you.

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So obviously in that kind of context, the name of Jesus wasn't really there, particularly at that stage in your life.

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Maybe as a cuss word.

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Yeah, maybe as a cuss word.

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What changed?

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Because obviously, you know, I've been chatting to you off camera for a little while before we started recording and you are just so on fire for the gospel.

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And you were just telling me all these stories about what's been going on, particularly in your family as well, when you were growing up.

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What happened?

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Well, there's kind of...

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Two plot lines that were going on.

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One was my grandparents were actually Baptists.

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They were Christians.

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And they took me to church.

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Me and my brother, right?

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But my ma and my uncles, my five uncles, they were the ones that were the wild children.

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And so one day, a hillbilly preacher, nicknamed Yankee...

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Went to my uncle Jack's house on a dare from a guy named Bob Daly.

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Knocked on the door.

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My Uncle Jack came to the door, no shirt on, tattoos everywhere.

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I showed you a picture of him.

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Huge guy, right?

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Big lamb chopped sideburns.

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Talk like this.

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Went to jail once for choking two cops out at the same time.

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Like choked them out.

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Oh, my word.

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They're arresting him on assault charges, and he assaulted them.

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He just took them out.

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Spent most of his adult life in jail.

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So this is a very tough guy.

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Toughest guy I've ever met to this day.

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And Yankee knocks on his door, bold, and says, I'm here on a dare from Bob Daly to tell you about Jesus.

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So sorry, he got dared to do it?

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Yeah, he got dared by Bob Daly.

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And my Uncle Jack goes, well, I don't know Jesus.

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I know Bob.

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I'll give you five minutes.

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So he invited him in.

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And in that five minutes, that hillbilly preacher explained that Christianity was not religion.

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that you didn't have to be good to go to heaven, you had to be perfect, and all of us fall short.

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So we're headed to hell and there's nothing we can do about it.

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So God did something about it.

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Out of love for us, he sent his own son who lived the perfect life we could not live and died the death that we deserved on the cross.

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Jesus died for our sins, was buried, rose again, and he offers eternal life to all those who simply place their faith and trust in him alone to save them.

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And my Uncle Jack had never heard the gospel.

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And Yankee goes, does that make sense?

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My Uncle Jack goes, hell yeah.

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That was the sinner's prayer was hell yeah.

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He trusted in Jesus and he started telling everybody about Christ.

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And it was a little rough because if they didn't take Jesus, he'd give them Moses, you know, right upside their head.

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He started telling everybody about Jesus.

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He went into it.

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He was working out in a sauna, sharing Christ with another bodybuilder.

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Well, you got no clothes on in a sauna.

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This is naked evangelism.

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He's sharing Christ.

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Another bodybuilder is in the sauna from a different religion, starts arguing.

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And my Uncle Jack's a brand new believer.

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He doesn't know the rules that you're supposed to love your enemies.

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He goes, hey, I'm trying to tell this guy about the love of Jesus.

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Why don't you shut your stinking mouth and quit interrupting me?

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And the guy interrupted again and boom, Jack hit the guy.

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The guy fell to the ground and looked up and goes, Jesus didn't go around hitting people like that.

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He goes, well, I ain't Jesus.

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I'm Jack.

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You know, didn't know the rules yet.

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But he brought 250 people out to Yankee's church in one month.

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And then one by one by one.

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That's not an exaggeration.

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I actually have the Bible that Yankee gave him that says, this Bible is a gift to you for bringing 250 people out to my church in one month.

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And one, so that's what happened is my uncle Jack came to Christ.

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My uncle Bob got in a barroom brawl, beat a guy to death.

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While they were trying to resuscitate the guy, he was, my uncle Bob was arrested in the back of a squad car.

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He realizes I just killed a dude.

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The guy had just stabbed his best friend five times.

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And he called out to God.

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He goes, God, if they resuscitate him, I believe in your son and I'll serve you.

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They did, and he did.

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Went to Florida Bible College right after that.

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So I'm a little kid in this terrifying family.

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One by one by one.

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My family meets somebody tougher.

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They meet the Lord Jesus Christ, and that transformation begins.

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So for me, just to kind of back it up a little bit, if you go back a few years before then, before I was a Christian, before they were Christians—

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Being raised in this house, you know, was intimidating because my family, like you talk about macho, machismo.

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You talk about, you know, kind of the gym bro.

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This is before gym bros were a thing.

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My family was, they were huge.

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My cousins were big, like power lifters.

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I did not fit in.

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I didn't have a dad.

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You know, I was raised by my ma.

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I was quiet.

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And I'll never forget a Christmas party.

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All my uncles are there.

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My aunts are there.

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My cousins are there.

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And I have a huge family.

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And my Uncle Dave goes, before we go to lunch, I have one more present for little Greg.

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My Uncle Dave was a war hero, a championship boxer.

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And here I'm getting a present from somebody who is one of my heroes.

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And I open it up, and it's a girl's doll.

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And I think it's a mistake.

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I go, it's a girl's doll.

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I'm six years old.

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He goes, he leaned down, looked at my face.

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He goes, yeah, I figured...

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You don't have a dad, so you like to play with dolls like a little girl.

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In front of my whole family.

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And it was the first time I remember being angry.

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I shoved it in the stomach.

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I go, ain't no girl.

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And I walked back to my corner, and all the uncles were like, maybe he's one of us after all.

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You see his temper?

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I wasn't laughing.

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I struggle like so, like, who am I?

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What am I doing in this family?

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I do not fit in.

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I'm not tough.

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I'm not strong.

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I'm weak.

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And I don't know why I'm here.

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What is the purpose of life?

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I'm thinking these questions as a six-year-old.

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But God used that to begin a search in my heart for something more.

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And two years later, I heard the gospel for the first time.

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I put my faith in Christ.

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And my ma...

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Told me years later, she said, do you remember what we used to say when kids from the neighborhood would make fun of you for not having a dad?

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I go, I don't remember.

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She said, used to say, God's my dad.

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Come on.

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And so the gospel changed everything for my family, changed everything for me.

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And it's a simple message that Christ died for us, that he paid the price.

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And I just want to say this, because some watching this podcast, you may feel like you're not loved, you're not seen.

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The God of this universe loves you so much.

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that he saw you before the beginning of time, and he made a plan to send his son to become one of us, to live the perfect life we couldn't live and die the death that you and I deserved.

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He paid the price for our sin.

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He said, it is finished.

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I don't care what you've done.

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It's nailed to the cross.

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He was buried.

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He rose again.

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And if you place your faith in him to save you, just like I'm trusting in his chair, most religions are, every religion is a ladder.

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You got to climb.

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You got to climb your way up, right?

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You got to do, stop, try.

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Only Christianity is a chair.

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You rest on what Jesus did.

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And in that moment, you're born again into the family of God.

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You become a child of the living King.

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Jesus becomes your big brother and your Savior and your Lord.

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He is King of kings, Lord of lords, and now he's your Savior.

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And once you're brought into that family, he'll never kick you out.

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He'll never lose you.

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He'll help you grow.

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He is always there with you.

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So if you don't feel loved, place your faith in Christ right now.

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Receive the gift of eternal life.

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It's a game changer.

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Change everything in my whole family.

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Change everything in me.

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So.

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Come on.

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Sorry, I was getting.

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Mate, you keep going, mate.

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No, it's good news.

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Wow.

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It's a simple gospel.

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Yeah.

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It's such a simple gospel.

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And to like,

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I guess just to see the impact that

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I guess in your family and like what God can do through the obedience of one man, of one person saying, you know what, I'm going to put my trust in Jesus.

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And then I guess unashamedly sharing around his community and his family and then seeing God really move.

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I think it's just like goes to show that you don't have to be a perfect person or a perfect vessel to be someone that God uses.

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It's just one that is willing to.

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when it was open and i'm like so intrigued to hear more about how you started dare to share because obviously the name is pretty relevant because i mean what was his name again yeah jack uncle jack bob daly dared my uncle yeah yeah yeah dared yankee to share the gospel yeah yeah and like that whole sort of like link between the name i think it just makes so much sense so i just want to hear more about how you started that share and why

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Yeah, you know, so, okay, so I come to Christ because my grandparents took me to the little church, and that's where I heard the gospel.

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But I saw my whole family, who's reached by this other pastor, Yankee.

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So I start going to the youth group when I'm 11 or 12 years old.

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And I'm so excited because there were 800 teenagers in the youth group.

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Wow.

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This hillbilly preacher you see, the fastest way to reach a city for Christ is through the young.

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800 teens in the youth group, we had 300 adults in the church.

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So he actually believed it.

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And we, he didn't just like entertain, he trained, inter-trained.

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Like we'd have fun, but then he would train us and equip us how to read the Bible, how to grow deep in the scriptures, how to pray, how to share the gospel, how to make disciples.

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So this was disciple multiplication that we were living out.

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He goes, train us all how to simply share the gospel.

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And he said, I want you to start reaching all your friends and all your family.

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So the number one person on my heart was my ma, right?

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Because my ma, even though my uncles, most of them by that time had had radical conversions.

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She had not.

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My ma was like the woman at the well with an attitude and a baseball bat.

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Let me explain.

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So when I was five years old, this is the most vivid memory of my childhood, right?

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Mm-hmm.

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My ma had married this guy named Paul.

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He pulled up one day.

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He was gone for months.

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We had no idea.

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He just left us.

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Pulled up one day in a brand new car.

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I'm on the porch playing.

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And I see him sitting in this brand new car.

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I yell inside, Ma, Ma, one of my dads is here.

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And she looks out the window.

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She's smoking a cigarette, you know, doing the dishes.

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And she goes, where's the baseball bat?

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And she reaches behind the door and she got the baseball bat.

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And she runs out, cigarette still in her mouth.

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And he's sitting in the car, you know.

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And we hadn't seen him again for months.

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We had no idea where he had been.

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He just left us.

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She smashes his front windshield.

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And she goes, come on, get out of the car.

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I'm just a girl.

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Boom, knocks out the front, you know, headlights, takes off the mirror, starts doing body damage.

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Yeah.

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I'm traumatized, yet at the same time impressed.

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I'm like, you go, Mom.

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Because she was wailing on this car.

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And he makes a tactical mistake.

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He got out.

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My mom's got five tough guy brothers.

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She's not afraid of this.

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She beat him so bloody.

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I actually joke about it, but it was actually very traumatizing to me as a kid.

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He got in the car, drove off.

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And I remember her walking up.

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the sidewalk with this broken, splintered, bloodied bat, thinking to myself three things.

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Number one, I will never disobey my mom again, ever, because she's a tough lady.

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Two, how did the cigarette stay in her mouth the whole time?

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That was actually impressive.

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And then three, why is she so angry?

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Why is she so angry?

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My grandma told me when I was 12 years old, the reason your mom is so angry is because...

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she almost aborted you.

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When she found out she was pregnant with you, she drove from Denver to Boston to have an illegal abortion.

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And your Uncle Tommy talked her out of it.

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I did not know until that moment that I was a result of a one-night stand.

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I did not know until that moment that

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I almost lost my life in her womb.

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But I understood in that moment why my mom felt so guilty.

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And she would just look at me oftentimes and cry.

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So I started sharing the gospel with her when I was 12 because I was equipped.

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I was not an extraordinary teenager.

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I was an ordinary teenager that was given extraordinary training by this hillbilly preacher.

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And it took three years.

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And I'll never forget when I was 15 years old.

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sharing the gospel with my mom.

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Because she used to say, you don't know the sins I've done.

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And I knew them all because my grandma told me, you know.

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And I said, my, it doesn't matter.

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And I sat her down and I said, I want to tell you the gospel one last time.

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And I told her, she's smoking a cigarette.

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She goes, you mean to tell me that Jesus died for all my sins?

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I go, yeah, she took a puff.

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She goes, you mean to tell me that all I have to do is place my faith in him and he forgives me for everything?

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I go, yeah, she took a puff.

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She said, I'm in.

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And when my family said they were in, they were in.

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So my mom came to Christ.

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Come on.

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And I just remember the guilt, you know, the shame just starting to peel off of her.

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And...

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One of the greatest days of my life was the day I got to leave my mother Christ as a 15-year-old.

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So you ask why I started Dare to Share.

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I started because of a hillbilly preacher that believed teenagers could change the world and equipped us like we could.

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And so that's what Dare to Share is.

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We train and equip young people all around the world how to share the gospel of Jesus and watch what God will do.

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That is beautiful.

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And how did it all start?

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Because obviously when we were chatting to you before, you, sorry, first of all, thank you so much for sharing because I feel so touched by what you just shared.

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Thanks, Lauren.

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Because I love seeing people get set free too because I've experienced it in my own life and continue to and it's just like, oh, I'm so grateful for Jesus.

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Amen.

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But you briefly shared how you started in 1991.

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That's sure.

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And then 1999 was where you're like, oh, okay, I'm going to take this up a notch.

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I'm going to do this full time.

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Can you share why?

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Yeah.

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So I was a, I was a planet of church, uh, in 1989 with my, you know, best friend from middle school who was trained in Yankees church and started dare to share in 91 kind of on the side because I was a pastor, but I still love, I love the young people.

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Whenever there was a room, I would always end it with young people.

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I'd always preach to the side where the young people were sitting.

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I've always just loved teenagers and young people.

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And so I was going to do both for the rest of my life because I love the local church and I love teenagers.

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So Dare to Share, we would just do weekend training events where we would get teens together on Friday night, give them a challenge, inspire them, and then on Saturday train and equip them, and then we'd take them out to share the gospel, right?

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And the church grew and Dare to Share began to grow.

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And April 20th, 1999, I am promoting a Dare to Share event on spiritual warfare and evangelism with six Presbyterian youth pastors.

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The theme of the conference was When All Hell Breaks Loose, so on spiritual warfare.

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And right in the middle...

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At about 11.45 a.m., the pastor interrupted our meeting and said, all hell is broken loose at Columbine High School.

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You guys may want to stop and pray.

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And we didn't really understand what was going on, but we found out over the next few hours, two shooters came in at Columbine High School, which is 30 minutes away from my house where Darity's share is at.

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And they killed 12 students and one teacher and turned the guns on themselves.

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Gosh.

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And there was school shootings before Columbine and after, but somehow Columbine High School, in the United States anyway, became the terrible measure of every school shooting.

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Mm-hmm.

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And it traumatized all of us.

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It traumatized me because I knew a lot of the kids at Columbine High School.

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I trained them over the years.

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Traumatized my wife because she's a public school teacher in the same district.

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And I went down to the school and I, you know, tried to pray with the students and the parents.

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And there was reporters from all over the world.

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And it was there that God just showed me that it was time to resign from the church to do Dare to Share full time.

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So I stepped down from being a pastor.

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to train and equip teenagers, first across the United States.

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And we were doing that in big arenas.

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And we've had up to 9,000 teens in our big arena events, but all of them go out to share the gospel.

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So we don't just train them, we mobilize them.

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Yeah, come on.

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And then 11 years ago in Israel, I'm in Israel,

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with 150 ministry leaders from 83 countries, or 53 countries, and they were like, a lot of them were using our dare to share material.

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I'm like, really?

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You like it?

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They're like, yes.

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And one South Africa guy named Don Olding, he goes, Brew, you must go global.

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And I'm like, I am a train wreck in my own country.

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I don't know how to go global.

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But on Mount Arbel, where the Great Commission happened,

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many theologians believe it was Mount Arbel overseeing Galilee.

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I heard a sermon on the Great Commission, and the Spirit of God gave me the green light.

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And I ran up to our president, Debbie Brissina, and a friend, Doug Holliday, and I go, God just gave me the green light, let's go global.

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And we put our hands in the middle, took a picture, and that's the picture that hangs up on my desk.

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And since then, you know, we killed the conferences, the big conferences.

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We came up with the Day of Global Youth Evangelism.

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And now we're seeing, you know, right now as of this taping, we have over 600,000 teens signed up in 150 countries, signed up for the Day of Global.

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And we just want to see every young person everywhere hear the gospel from a friend.

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So everybody reaching their own circle of influence.

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I love that.

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You know, and making disciples that make disciples—

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But it all goes back down to a hillbilly preacher nicknamed Yankee training a 12-year-old how to share the gospel.

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Yeah.

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And what if that was scaled around the world?

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Yeah.

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We have the best news on the planet.

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Yeah.

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Right.

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We've got to tell everybody.

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Yeah, yeah.

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You know.

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Could you tell us then a bit more about the Day of Global Evangelism?

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Yeah.

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So there's so many already signed up.

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Sure.

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What does it consist of?

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What's it all about?

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Um, so we pre film it, right?

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So that on that day, all you have to do is show it, but it feels like a live event.

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So there is an hour of inspiration and an hour of training.

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Okay.

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So the inspiration, we have global speakers come in, right?

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Right.

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Yeah.

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And they inspire.

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We do a drama.

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The drama is called A Letter from Heaven.

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So like what it's two girls, you know, one went to heaven and one's on earth.

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And one is sent a letter from heaven to describe the glory of God.

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and thanking her for telling her.

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It's powerful, telling her about Jesus.

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So that first hour is inspiration.

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The second hour, take a break.

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Second hour is training.

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So what do you say when you go out?

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And training is important.

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You don't want to just go out and start yelling, Jesus, Jesus.

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It's hot in here.

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It's hot in hell, too, let me tell you about it.

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You don't want that.

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You want to have a conversation.

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So we train young people how to what we call ask, admire, admit, ask questions.

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Admire what you can about what somebody believes.

475
00:24:10.619 --> 00:24:15.384
Admit the reason you're a Christian is because you desperately need Jesus and share your story and then share the gospel.

476
00:24:15.404 --> 00:24:16.686
And we actually have an acrostic.

477
00:24:17.146 --> 00:24:24.274
GOSPL that we have students memorize so they can have kind of bullet points as I kind of walk them through the gospel message.

478
00:24:24.334 --> 00:24:25.996
And we have an app and different things to help.

479
00:24:26.016 --> 00:24:26.516
Yeah, gosh.

480
00:24:26.536 --> 00:24:28.198
I want to share more about that.

481
00:24:28.218 --> 00:24:30.100
I was just going to rip up this.

482
00:24:30.120 --> 00:24:31.141
I don't know if you can see it.

483
00:24:31.181 --> 00:24:31.662
Let's go.

484
00:24:31.922 --> 00:24:32.663
Zoom into that.

485
00:24:34.155 --> 00:24:35.436
The gospel acrostic.

486
00:24:35.456 --> 00:24:36.937
So I'll kind of go through it.

487
00:24:37.077 --> 00:24:39.678
God created us to be with him, Genesis 1 and 2.

488
00:24:39.878 --> 00:24:40.719
Yeah.

489
00:24:40.879 --> 00:24:43.960
O is our sin separate us from God, Genesis 3, right?

490
00:24:44.280 --> 00:24:45.401
And Adam and Eve sin.

491
00:24:45.621 --> 00:24:46.221
Yeah.

492
00:24:46.382 --> 00:24:50.824
S is sins cannot be removed by good deeds, Genesis 4 through Malachi 4, the rest of it.

493
00:24:51.164 --> 00:24:54.466
So good deeds like putting white frosting on a burnt cake, right?

494
00:24:54.546 --> 00:24:54.806
Yeah.

495
00:24:54.966 --> 00:24:58.568
So P, paying the price for sin, Jesus died and rose again, Matthew, Mark, and Luke.

496
00:24:59.624 --> 00:25:02.405
E is everyone who trusts in him alone has eternal life.

497
00:25:02.565 --> 00:25:03.385
That's the book of John.

498
00:25:03.926 --> 00:25:06.386
And L is life with Jesus starts now and lasts forever.

499
00:25:06.506 --> 00:25:07.367
Acts of Revelation.

500
00:25:08.067 --> 00:25:10.888
And it tells the whole story of the Bible in six simple points.

501
00:25:11.468 --> 00:25:14.009
So we literally have young people memorize that.

502
00:25:14.109 --> 00:25:16.130
So they, it's like playing the guitar.

503
00:25:16.330 --> 00:25:18.530
You learn the chords and you can make it your own song.

504
00:25:18.951 --> 00:25:19.951
Yeah.

505
00:25:20.171 --> 00:25:22.332
And then to engage, don't enrage.

506
00:25:22.372 --> 00:25:25.513
Don't just make gospel presentations, have gospel conversations.

507
00:25:25.553 --> 00:25:25.713
Yeah.

508
00:25:26.353 --> 00:25:32.390
So that's, so on that day, you know, after they're trained, everybody goes out and shares Christ.

509
00:25:32.794 --> 00:25:35.335
And you mentioned some of the countries earlier off camera.

510
00:25:35.395 --> 00:25:39.017
Could you just like some of the top countries, which really was quite powerful.

511
00:25:39.137 --> 00:25:39.477
Yes.

512
00:25:39.977 --> 00:25:45.700
So last year, the number one country was Nigeria, which is the most persecuted country.

513
00:25:45.960 --> 00:25:48.221
More Christians die in Nigeria than any other country.

514
00:25:48.541 --> 00:25:49.981
I asked the leader, Stephen Bahago.

515
00:25:51.002 --> 00:25:51.922
I go, aren't you afraid?

516
00:25:51.942 --> 00:25:53.843
He goes, oh, yeah, but you choose what you fear.

517
00:25:54.163 --> 00:25:55.444
He goes, we don't fear dying.

518
00:25:55.484 --> 00:25:56.104
We fear God.

519
00:25:56.144 --> 00:25:56.824
I'm like, bro.

520
00:25:58.505 --> 00:25:58.725
Yeah.

521
00:25:58.905 --> 00:26:00.486
Who to put you in charge?

522
00:26:00.806 --> 00:26:01.086
Wow.

523
00:26:01.206 --> 00:26:05.528
So this year, India is number one, where it's illegal to share the gospel.

524
00:26:05.829 --> 00:26:08.690
Pakistan is number two, illegal to share the gospel.

525
00:26:08.730 --> 00:26:09.811
Nigeria is number five.

526
00:26:10.311 --> 00:26:11.972
And Nigeria will probably take over, though.

527
00:26:11.992 --> 00:26:13.573
They always last minute.

528
00:26:13.873 --> 00:26:14.513
Come on.

529
00:26:14.873 --> 00:26:17.775
And what we want to see is like World Cup soccer.

530
00:26:18.335 --> 00:26:19.515
for evangelism.

531
00:26:19.755 --> 00:26:25.697
All these countries, like, let's go, let's mobilize the young people in our country and let's reach a generation with a generation.

532
00:26:25.917 --> 00:26:28.678
And again, the day of global is just a spark.

533
00:26:29.559 --> 00:26:35.341
But what we want to see is every day, like, I pray for Bob, right?

534
00:26:35.761 --> 00:26:36.181
Every day.

535
00:26:36.941 --> 00:26:37.541
B-O-B.

536
00:26:38.261 --> 00:26:39.662
I pray for a burden for the lost.

537
00:26:40.870 --> 00:26:42.912
I pray for an opportunity to share Christ that day.

538
00:26:43.612 --> 00:26:46.814
And I pray for the boldness to walk through that door when God opens it.

539
00:26:47.055 --> 00:26:52.859
God opened today with Alicia, who was serving coffee on a tour that we were doing.

540
00:26:53.339 --> 00:26:55.461
And we had a great gospel conversation.

541
00:26:55.981 --> 00:26:59.043
So when you pray, that's a prayer.

542
00:26:59.083 --> 00:26:59.804
Pray for Bob.

543
00:27:00.444 --> 00:27:02.306
God will open up those doors.

544
00:27:02.486 --> 00:27:04.427
And you don't have to cram it down people's throat.

545
00:27:04.548 --> 00:27:08.631
Get in a conversation and let the Spirit of God help you turn it toward Jesus.

546
00:27:08.711 --> 00:27:10.092
Ask him, do you go to church anywhere?

547
00:27:10.812 --> 00:27:12.112
Or what are your spiritual beliefs?

548
00:27:12.592 --> 00:27:14.433
And then admire what you can.

549
00:27:14.513 --> 00:27:15.473
Find common ground.

550
00:27:15.953 --> 00:27:19.314
And then share your story and then share the gospel message.

551
00:27:20.014 --> 00:27:21.354
And take it as far as you can.

552
00:27:22.494 --> 00:27:24.455
And if they shut you down, just be kind.

553
00:27:24.515 --> 00:27:29.236
And if they're ready to continue that conversation and put their faith in Christ, take it all the way.

554
00:27:31.216 --> 00:27:31.816
Oh, go, go, go.

555
00:27:31.936 --> 00:27:32.176
Okay.

556
00:27:32.596 --> 00:27:39.758
I was just going to ask, because obviously some of the consciousness there, some of the most persecuted places to live as a Christian,

557
00:27:40.638 --> 00:27:41.879
A couple of questions off the back of that.

558
00:27:41.899 --> 00:27:44.341
Firstly, why do you think that is?

559
00:27:44.381 --> 00:27:48.405
Why is there such a passion, particularly in those parts of the world, to share the gospel?

560
00:27:48.525 --> 00:27:54.870
And why do you think particularly young people, like you've mentioned, young people are the best way to share the gospel with their peers.

561
00:27:55.330 --> 00:27:55.891
Why is that?

562
00:27:56.369 --> 00:28:01.011
Well, teenagers come to Christ, young people come to Christ quicker, spread the gospel faster, right?

563
00:28:01.191 --> 00:28:01.371
Yeah.

564
00:28:01.632 --> 00:28:02.152
Than adults.

565
00:28:02.812 --> 00:28:10.536
One 15-year-old who posts a viral video could reach more than Billy Graham could in 15 stadium events, you know?

566
00:28:10.756 --> 00:28:11.336
That's true.

567
00:28:11.356 --> 00:28:12.457
That's crazy, yeah.

568
00:28:13.017 --> 00:28:17.659
And, you know, honestly, teenagers, their brains aren't fully developed yet, so it's perfect.

569
00:28:17.679 --> 00:28:19.600
That's why there's higher risk.

570
00:28:20.140 --> 00:28:21.701
Like, they're willing to take risks.

571
00:28:21.741 --> 00:28:24.923
That's why it costs more for car insurance, you know, when you're young.

572
00:28:24.983 --> 00:28:25.443
Yeah, yeah.

573
00:28:25.603 --> 00:28:28.505
But that Jesus was a youth leader.

574
00:28:30.526 --> 00:28:31.226
Sorry, Chosen.

575
00:28:32.367 --> 00:28:35.949
The kids weren't 30 years old.

576
00:28:36.149 --> 00:28:37.069
They were teenagers.

577
00:28:37.109 --> 00:28:37.349
Yeah.

578
00:28:37.590 --> 00:28:41.492
And Matthew 17, let me show you theologically.

579
00:28:41.612 --> 00:28:46.354
Matthew 17, 24 through 27, Peter and Jesus and the disciples go into Capernaum.

580
00:28:47.895 --> 00:28:50.957
But only Peter and Jesus pay the temple tax, which is interesting.

581
00:28:52.097 --> 00:28:53.458
Exodus 30, verse 14, the temple tax...

582
00:28:55.513 --> 00:28:57.255
was only for those 20 years old and older.

583
00:28:58.236 --> 00:29:00.799
So all the disciples are there, but only Peter and Jesus pay.

584
00:29:01.540 --> 00:29:08.387
And if I'm reading that right, Jesus was a youth leader with one adult volunteer and one rotten kid named Judas

585
00:29:09.269 --> 00:29:11.610
and no budget, and with that youth group, he changed the world.

586
00:29:12.171 --> 00:29:14.812
So I'm like, if we want to be like Jesus, we've got to go young.

587
00:29:15.833 --> 00:29:20.656
Like, the audience is listening to this podcast.

588
00:29:21.436 --> 00:29:26.079
I mean, you are the ones, you're the age that Jesus chose to invest in.

589
00:29:27.019 --> 00:29:34.084
You know, Spurgeon said, an Englishman, if somebody comes to Christ at the age of 70, what good are they for the kingdom?

590
00:29:34.104 --> 00:29:34.264
Yeah.

591
00:29:35.229 --> 00:29:38.030
I would not want to be in the older ministry in Spurgeon's church.

592
00:29:38.390 --> 00:29:42.371
He said if they come to Christ at the age of 15, they have their whole life ahead of them.

593
00:29:44.412 --> 00:29:49.494
And if you're 70 and listen to this, God still can use you.

594
00:29:49.654 --> 00:29:52.095
But the younger have their whole life ahead of them.

595
00:29:52.655 --> 00:29:59.617
So they come to Christ quicker, they spread the gospel faster, and every major spiritual awakening has had young people on the leading edge.

596
00:30:00.158 --> 00:30:00.738
St. Patrick.

597
00:30:01.338 --> 00:30:01.578
Right?

598
00:30:01.958 --> 00:30:07.521
In Ireland, he was trafficked as a slave, taken to Ireland as a 16-year-old.

599
00:30:07.781 --> 00:30:08.361
You know what he did?

600
00:30:09.082 --> 00:30:11.423
He prayed every day for the Irish people to come to Christ.

601
00:30:11.643 --> 00:30:12.964
God broke his heart for the Irish.

602
00:30:13.184 --> 00:30:23.228
He escaped, went back, came back 20 years later, and the movement he began in Ireland spread across Europe and lasted for 500 years.

603
00:30:23.529 --> 00:30:26.250
A teenager is a 16-year-old praying.

604
00:30:27.230 --> 00:30:30.352
Jonathan Edwards says this about the First Great Awakening.

605
00:30:30.792 --> 00:30:32.693
The revival has been chiefly amongst the young.

606
00:30:33.153 --> 00:30:38.195
So the George Whitefield, the John Wesley, primarily a young person revival and awakening.

607
00:30:38.676 --> 00:30:41.317
But it's not revival until it hits the streets.

608
00:30:42.557 --> 00:30:52.162
If it's just in an arena or a church and you're praying and getting filled with the Spirit, but you're not taking it out, you're not sharing Christ with your friends, family, neighbors on the street, it's not revival.

609
00:30:52.202 --> 00:30:52.722
It's renewal.

610
00:30:53.122 --> 00:30:53.963
We need revival.

611
00:30:54.403 --> 00:30:55.243
And we need to get revival.

612
00:30:57.114 --> 00:30:57.835
Get in the grit.

613
00:30:58.036 --> 00:30:58.417
Yeah.

614
00:30:59.058 --> 00:30:59.438
Come on.

615
00:31:00.060 --> 00:31:00.380
Come on.

616
00:31:00.460 --> 00:31:00.761
Yeah.

617
00:31:01.162 --> 00:31:01.843
Did you have a question?

618
00:31:03.023 --> 00:31:14.466
Well, I think I personally was really inspired and encouraged by your approach with conversations that you have with people and like how you equip your young people and having conversations with people.

619
00:31:15.086 --> 00:31:20.427
It's, it's like this approach of rather, Hey, look, I've got this really good news for you and you probably should hear it.

620
00:31:21.567 --> 00:31:24.648
But like, yes, that's like the core, like that is the gospel.

621
00:31:24.668 --> 00:31:25.648
Gospel is for everyone.

622
00:31:26.169 --> 00:31:30.710
But, but your approach is more like connection to like human connection, um, um,

623
00:31:32.190 --> 00:31:38.932
Which is just like so, I think, for me, I'm like, that is just the right way to approach it.

624
00:31:38.952 --> 00:31:44.233
Because rather than saying, hey, like, you know, you know the gospel, you should probably like listen to it.

625
00:31:44.914 --> 00:31:48.214
Rather than that, it's just been like, okay, hey, like, can you tell me more about your life?

626
00:31:48.575 --> 00:31:49.755
Yeah.

627
00:31:50.095 --> 00:31:52.676
And then speaking into their personal context.

628
00:31:52.696 --> 00:31:53.216
Yeah.

629
00:31:53.756 --> 00:32:02.343
And then seeing how their need for Jesus is so great there, and how we all need Jesus.

630
00:32:02.824 --> 00:32:05.987
And we all have this thing in common in that we are all sinners.

631
00:32:06.007 --> 00:32:06.407
Yeah.

632
00:32:07.528 --> 00:32:09.630
And we need a savior, and that is Jesus.

633
00:32:10.411 --> 00:32:11.272
We're all sinners.

634
00:32:11.292 --> 00:32:13.574
We have different categories of sin, right?

635
00:32:14.295 --> 00:32:16.316
But we're all sinners in need of a Savior.

636
00:32:16.536 --> 00:32:19.379
And so there's an old fisherman statement.

637
00:32:19.939 --> 00:32:21.961
You got to catch him before you clean him, right?

638
00:32:22.762 --> 00:32:30.048
And I think a lot of times we're trying to fix people and say, well, you got to be a certain amount of holy before God will accept you.

639
00:32:30.588 --> 00:32:32.969
We're all sinners in desperate need of a Savior.

640
00:32:33.069 --> 00:32:37.372
You put your faith in Christ, you get a new identity, right?

641
00:32:37.432 --> 00:32:38.372
Children of the King.

642
00:32:38.932 --> 00:32:43.715
And that means we need to live lives that reflect that, no matter what our category of sin.

643
00:32:44.395 --> 00:32:50.839
And so I think just talking to people in love and kindness and speak the truth and don't shy away from...

644
00:32:51.697 --> 00:32:56.299
using the word sin or hell because Jesus didn't shy away from it at all.

645
00:32:56.679 --> 00:33:00.521
Of that 12 times that hell is mentioned in the New Testament, 11 are mentioned by Jesus.

646
00:33:00.961 --> 00:33:05.823
People that die without Christ are headed to hell, which is terrifying.

647
00:33:07.124 --> 00:33:11.225
And it's not just the hell they're headed to, it's the hell they're going through right now.

648
00:33:11.926 --> 00:33:14.507
We were talking about this, you know, it's hard enough.

649
00:33:16.029 --> 00:33:19.914
To make it in this life with Jesus, it's impossible without him.

650
00:33:20.495 --> 00:33:21.376
It's impossible without him.

651
00:33:21.676 --> 00:33:24.400
And I know teens today are struggling with anxiety.

652
00:33:26.382 --> 00:33:34.553
My daughter, who's 22, when she was 12 years old, had immense anxiety.

653
00:33:35.785 --> 00:33:36.666
And we did a couple of things.

654
00:33:36.686 --> 00:33:37.907
We got her biblical counseling.

655
00:33:37.947 --> 00:33:38.828
I got her in the Word.

656
00:33:38.868 --> 00:33:39.668
We got her praying.

657
00:33:39.708 --> 00:33:40.809
She loves writing music.

658
00:33:40.829 --> 00:33:43.332
So I said, start writing music about your anxiety.

659
00:33:43.372 --> 00:33:44.032
Wrestle through it.

660
00:33:45.173 --> 00:33:51.038
And I took her out once a month sharing the gospel in the toughest part of our city with her little God squad.

661
00:33:51.258 --> 00:33:53.260
She had a group of friends that loved Jesus.

662
00:33:53.901 --> 00:33:56.583
We were down in the hood sharing Christ once a month.

663
00:33:57.424 --> 00:33:59.586
And when she was 17, I'll never forget.

664
00:34:00.627 --> 00:34:02.108
She'd been doing this for years now.

665
00:34:03.212 --> 00:34:10.357
She walks up to her and her friends, walk up to a homeless guy and say, sir, can we talk to you about the Lord?

666
00:34:10.737 --> 00:34:12.598
And he goes, get out, get out.

667
00:34:12.958 --> 00:34:13.819
He starts screaming.

668
00:34:14.579 --> 00:34:16.761
And I'm getting, I'm like 10 meters away.

669
00:34:16.801 --> 00:34:17.581
She didn't know I'm there.

670
00:34:17.662 --> 00:34:20.623
I'm getting in tackling position because I'm like, yeah, I'm a believer in Christ.

671
00:34:20.663 --> 00:34:21.944
But he lunges at my daughter.

672
00:34:21.964 --> 00:34:24.006
I'm taking him out and I'm going to confess my sin after.

673
00:34:24.026 --> 00:34:26.127
I'm not going to let nobody mess with my kid.

674
00:34:27.108 --> 00:34:29.449
And he goes, go, go, go.

675
00:34:29.529 --> 00:34:30.410
And he's yelling at her.

676
00:34:31.149 --> 00:34:40.999
And I'll never forget my shy, anxious-filled daughter goes, no, we're not going until you turn and hear how much Jesus loves you.

677
00:34:41.079 --> 00:34:42.261
And she began to weep for him.

678
00:34:42.601 --> 00:34:42.941
Wow.

679
00:34:43.622 --> 00:34:44.563
And so did her friends.

680
00:34:45.264 --> 00:34:48.747
And he turned, he heard the gospel, he did not trust Christ.

681
00:34:49.767 --> 00:34:53.332
But I was sitting there thinking, what has happened to my daughter?

682
00:34:53.973 --> 00:34:54.834
You know what happened to her?

683
00:34:55.915 --> 00:34:57.798
She learned how to depend on the Holy Spirit.

684
00:34:57.838 --> 00:34:58.138
Yeah.

685
00:34:59.220 --> 00:35:04.507
And that same Holy Spirit that gave her confidence in sharing the gospel gave her confidence to face her anxiety.

686
00:35:04.587 --> 00:35:04.928
Mm-hmm.

687
00:35:06.223 --> 00:35:15.395
And so, you know, the power of sharing the gospel goes far beyond seeing people blasted out of the kingdom of darkness into the kingdom of light.

688
00:35:15.455 --> 00:35:15.936
It's that.

689
00:35:16.657 --> 00:35:20.742
But it also transforms us because it teaches us to depend on the Holy Spirit.

690
00:35:21.103 --> 00:35:21.684
That's so beautiful.

691
00:35:21.724 --> 00:35:22.004
So I'm for it.

692
00:35:22.885 --> 00:35:23.665
That's so beautiful.

693
00:35:24.166 --> 00:35:36.431
And kind of coming off of that then, with that example of your daughter, what would you say to someone who's perhaps watching this and they're at this point in the video and they go, this is great, evangelism sounds really cool, but that's not my gift.

694
00:35:36.471 --> 00:35:36.751
Yeah.

695
00:35:36.891 --> 00:35:41.533
There's lots of other people I know who can evangelize really well and I'll just leave them to it.

696
00:35:41.933 --> 00:35:42.993
What would you say to that person?

697
00:35:43.654 --> 00:35:48.076
Well, Jesus said to his disciples, which is us, Matthew 28, 19 and 20,

698
00:35:49.156 --> 00:35:52.837
Well, he says in verse 18, all authority in heaven and earth has been given to me.

699
00:35:53.657 --> 00:35:55.598
Therefore, go and make disciples of all nations.

700
00:35:56.558 --> 00:36:03.060
So you have the right to make disciples because Jesus said he's been given all the authority and he's authorized you.

701
00:36:03.881 --> 00:36:06.081
And you have the responsibility to make disciples.

702
00:36:06.862 --> 00:36:12.063
If you're a believer in Christ, Jesus said, follow me and I will make you fishers of people.

703
00:36:13.224 --> 00:36:17.685
So if you're not fishing, you're either not following Christ or,

704
00:36:18.363 --> 00:36:20.624
or not following him as closely as you think you are.

705
00:36:21.824 --> 00:36:25.326
Because Jesus said, this is the inevitable result of following me.

706
00:36:25.566 --> 00:36:28.607
I will make you fishers of people.

707
00:36:29.107 --> 00:36:30.428
I have the gift of evangelism.

708
00:36:31.202 --> 00:36:33.945
But the gift of evangelism is not to do all the evangelism.

709
00:36:34.365 --> 00:36:43.074
Ephesians 4, 11 and 12 says he's given apostles, prophets, pastors, teachers, evangelists for the equipping of God's people for works of service.

710
00:36:43.094 --> 00:36:47.458
So my job as an evangelist is to equip believers to share the gospel.

711
00:36:47.939 --> 00:36:52.043
Everyday believers to share the gospel every day along the way, you know.

712
00:36:52.403 --> 00:36:54.627
And when you think of evangelism, here's the other thing I would say.

713
00:36:54.667 --> 00:36:57.672
Don't just think about going out and witnessing, right?

714
00:36:57.773 --> 00:36:59.636
On the day of global evangelism, that's what we do.

715
00:37:00.277 --> 00:37:01.820
Think about witnessing as you go.

716
00:37:03.282 --> 00:37:05.126
Every day to the barista,

717
00:37:05.982 --> 00:37:18.465
to the server, to the neighbor walking their dog, to your classmate, to your friends, to your family, that you're always in a mode of sharing the good news of Jesus because people all around you.

718
00:37:18.505 --> 00:37:20.346
When I was 12, can I share this?

719
00:37:20.546 --> 00:37:24.627
When I was 12 years old, my youth leader had me do something weird.

720
00:37:24.967 --> 00:37:32.389
He said, go to the mall, sit on a bench, and watch people walk by and put an imaginary tag on their forehead that reads, bound for hell.

721
00:37:33.356 --> 00:37:39.182
And I want you to, he said, I want you to think about the hell that people are headed to and hell that they're going through apart from Christ.

722
00:37:39.643 --> 00:37:39.843
Wow.

723
00:37:40.964 --> 00:37:45.148
And it was weird because I was 12, you know, like, but I go and I do it.

724
00:37:47.851 --> 00:37:50.254
And in 30 minutes, my shirt was wet with tears.

725
00:37:50.274 --> 00:37:50.714
Wow.

726
00:37:51.803 --> 00:37:52.964
And I still see the sign.

727
00:37:52.984 --> 00:37:57.228
I was in a train station last night with my friend Mike on.

728
00:37:58.229 --> 00:37:59.731
I go, Mike, I'm seeing the sign.

729
00:38:00.151 --> 00:38:00.932
I'm seeing the sign.

730
00:38:01.672 --> 00:38:02.493
I'm seeing the sign.

731
00:38:03.254 --> 00:38:04.575
It's all these people in London.

732
00:38:05.796 --> 00:38:07.738
Everywhere we go that don't know the Lord.

733
00:38:09.480 --> 00:38:10.221
We got to tell them.

734
00:38:11.882 --> 00:38:13.444
We got to do everything we can to tell them.

735
00:38:13.464 --> 00:38:16.407
And that's why I just want to say I'm so proud of you guys.

736
00:38:17.360 --> 00:38:25.123
You're the age of my kids and your faithfulness with this podcast to tell people, to show people the way.

737
00:38:25.944 --> 00:38:26.304
Love that.

738
00:38:26.364 --> 00:38:28.525
Jesus, I am the way, the truth, and the life.

739
00:38:29.225 --> 00:38:31.486
No one comes to the Father but by him.

740
00:38:31.986 --> 00:38:33.527
And just challenge everybody listening.

741
00:38:33.547 --> 00:38:34.327
Don't just listen.

742
00:38:34.427 --> 00:38:35.588
Be doers of the word.

743
00:38:36.568 --> 00:38:37.609
And not hearers only.

744
00:38:37.989 --> 00:38:38.829
It's time to activate.

745
00:38:38.849 --> 00:38:42.171
It's time to go, go, go and share the good news.

746
00:38:43.551 --> 00:38:44.071
So good.

747
00:38:45.032 --> 00:38:45.512
So good.

748
00:38:47.905 --> 00:38:51.446
I'm just, gosh, I'm just almost resting in that.

749
00:38:51.806 --> 00:39:03.810
Because I think there have been so many times for me, particularly where I know I've gone through, like I think even like last year, for example, there was a period of time where I was really like, I'm just not equipped.

750
00:39:03.910 --> 00:39:05.931
I just lost a lot of confidence in my evangelism.

751
00:39:06.131 --> 00:39:07.811
Like almost that overnight was so weird.

752
00:39:08.311 --> 00:39:11.912
And I would try and kind of, when I would try it, it would go terribly.

753
00:39:12.032 --> 00:39:14.133
And then I just thought, oh, there's no point.

754
00:39:14.853 --> 00:39:15.854
And I think...

755
00:39:17.254 --> 00:39:21.699
I think that what you've just said there is, is so, well, it is true, obviously.

756
00:39:22.200 --> 00:39:30.890
It's literally what Jesus said, but it's such a, it's such a challenge to all of us to be like, actually, do you know, look, we, we have that hope.

757
00:39:31.190 --> 00:39:31.430
Yeah.

758
00:39:32.312 --> 00:39:34.154
We, we have, we found him.

759
00:39:35.455 --> 00:39:37.417
Why wouldn't we want to tell people?

760
00:39:37.718 --> 00:39:37.918
Yeah.

761
00:39:39.468 --> 00:39:41.450
What would you say are the different ways?

762
00:39:42.211 --> 00:39:49.098
Because obviously we speak about evangelism, and I think particularly in today's world, there's lots of different ways that one can evangelize.

763
00:39:49.538 --> 00:39:56.385
What would you say, again, just based on your experience of what you've seen, what would you say are some good ways people can try and evangelize?

764
00:39:56.425 --> 00:39:56.565
Yeah.

765
00:39:57.105 --> 00:40:03.432
You know, something we've been doing since my kids were little is when we were at a restaurant, we always asked the server, right?

766
00:40:04.472 --> 00:40:05.933
hey, we're about to pray for our food.

767
00:40:06.413 --> 00:40:08.075
Is there anything we can pray for you about?

768
00:40:08.655 --> 00:40:08.875
Wow.

769
00:40:09.436 --> 00:40:09.756
Simple.

770
00:40:10.737 --> 00:40:11.477
And it's interesting.

771
00:40:11.517 --> 00:40:12.718
Some people will be like, I'm good.

772
00:40:13.038 --> 00:40:18.602
But most people will like, you know, pray for an overall blessing.

773
00:40:18.662 --> 00:40:21.464
But then sometimes they'll say, actually, pray for my aunt.

774
00:40:21.504 --> 00:40:22.325
She's got cancer.

775
00:40:22.365 --> 00:40:23.065
Or pray for this.

776
00:40:23.726 --> 00:40:24.987
Some people just break down.

777
00:40:26.081 --> 00:40:31.628
And it often leads to gospel conversations because now we're talking about it.

778
00:40:31.708 --> 00:40:40.278
And later on I say, you know, hey, when you have a minute or two, I would love to share with you a message that changed my life if you'd be open to it.

779
00:40:40.458 --> 00:40:40.638
Mm-hmm.

780
00:40:41.339 --> 00:40:43.220
So when things come down, would you be open to that?

781
00:40:43.240 --> 00:40:45.701
A lot of times they're like, yeah, I'll come back.

782
00:40:46.301 --> 00:40:48.062
Sometimes they're like, no, I'm good.

783
00:40:48.922 --> 00:40:51.603
Leave them a big tip and give them a gospel track.

784
00:40:51.683 --> 00:40:52.523
Leave that there.

785
00:40:53.023 --> 00:40:57.625
But I think there's a lot more people willing to talk about it than we think.

786
00:40:57.665 --> 00:41:02.427
I've heard that different parts of the world are closed to the gospel.

787
00:41:03.587 --> 00:41:05.308
I've never found that part yet.

788
00:41:06.930 --> 00:41:08.191
I've had a lot of conversations.

789
00:41:08.271 --> 00:41:11.353
I don't just start with, hey, you need Jesus, right?

790
00:41:11.373 --> 00:41:16.915
Because you start like that, it's, you know, a lot of people just put up their...

791
00:41:17.275 --> 00:41:18.976
But I start by asking questions.

792
00:41:19.056 --> 00:41:21.077
Like we have an app called Life in Six Words.

793
00:41:22.058 --> 00:41:25.479
And you ask somebody, if you were to describe your life in six words, what would they be?

794
00:41:25.499 --> 00:41:27.220
And there's 14 words they can choose from.

795
00:41:28.141 --> 00:41:30.002
And then I ask them, tell me why you chose those words.

796
00:41:30.022 --> 00:41:30.882
Yeah.

797
00:41:31.182 --> 00:41:33.423
And then all of a sudden they're telling me about their life.

798
00:41:33.503 --> 00:41:36.545
And the more they talk, the more they open up, the more the guards go down.

799
00:41:37.405 --> 00:41:44.069
And then once you fully listen to them, then you can say, do you mind if I share with you my words?

800
00:41:44.609 --> 00:41:46.950
And then pretty soon you're in a gospel conversation.

801
00:41:47.350 --> 00:41:48.891
I got to give credit, though, to somebody.

802
00:41:49.851 --> 00:41:50.212
Go on.

803
00:41:51.092 --> 00:41:51.432
My wife.

804
00:41:53.260 --> 00:41:55.440
I was the direct evangelist.

805
00:41:55.880 --> 00:41:57.701
Like, where are you going to go when you die?

806
00:41:58.141 --> 00:42:01.341
You know, let me tell you about Jesus, which is fine.

807
00:42:01.461 --> 00:42:08.623
But my wife's, you know, she genuinely, she was a public school teacher, fifth grade, 10-year-old, 11-year-old.

808
00:42:09.603 --> 00:42:10.603
She loved her kids.

809
00:42:11.443 --> 00:42:12.343
She prayed for them.

810
00:42:13.104 --> 00:42:13.824
She coached me.

811
00:42:13.884 --> 00:42:18.004
She says, Greg, you need to ask questions and listen.

812
00:42:19.385 --> 00:42:21.045
And years ago, we did a reality series.

813
00:42:21.814 --> 00:42:24.716
called Gospel Journey Maui, like 18 years ago.

814
00:42:24.736 --> 00:42:39.448
We took a Mormon, a Muslim, a Buddhist, a Jew, a Seventh-day Adventist, sounds like a joke, into a bar and then a priest, and a surfing, former drug-dealing evangelical named Zane to Maui for eight days with a film crew.

815
00:42:39.908 --> 00:42:40.108
Wow.

816
00:42:40.609 --> 00:42:43.131
And I said, these aren't actors.

817
00:42:43.191 --> 00:42:44.452
These are real people.

818
00:42:45.392 --> 00:42:50.776
And day number one, so we went to the top of Haleakala, which is a volcano.

819
00:42:50.796 --> 00:42:51.477
Mm-hmm.

820
00:42:52.267 --> 00:42:55.208
in Maui, and we watched the sun rise above the clouds.

821
00:42:55.509 --> 00:42:56.669
Most spectacular thing.

822
00:42:57.089 --> 00:42:58.090
I mean, just beautiful.

823
00:42:58.110 --> 00:43:01.491
You're literally watching the sun rise above the clouds because you're above the clouds.

824
00:43:01.511 --> 00:43:02.391
You're at 10,000 feet.

825
00:43:03.772 --> 00:43:08.434
And then we put the cameras on, like, hey, you guys just saw the most spectacular thing in the world.

826
00:43:08.474 --> 00:43:09.194
How do you explain it?

827
00:43:10.394 --> 00:43:11.015
Is there a God?

828
00:43:12.655 --> 00:43:14.176
If so, who is he, she, or it?

829
00:43:14.296 --> 00:43:17.898
If not, what do you believe?

830
00:43:17.938 --> 00:43:18.838
How did all this happen?

831
00:43:20.013 --> 00:43:22.033
And so I asked the question, nobody answered.

832
00:43:23.314 --> 00:43:25.634
So I just started preaching, you know.

833
00:43:26.154 --> 00:43:28.075
Genesis 1, in the beginning God.

834
00:43:28.135 --> 00:43:29.315
And our director goes, cut.

835
00:43:29.375 --> 00:43:30.255
He goes, steer, come here.

836
00:43:30.795 --> 00:43:31.715
He goes, you want to ruin this?

837
00:43:31.875 --> 00:43:32.315
I go, no.

838
00:43:32.335 --> 00:43:34.656
He goes, ask the question and shut your mouth.

839
00:43:35.836 --> 00:43:36.536
Let them answer.

840
00:43:36.956 --> 00:43:37.517
Quit talking.

841
00:43:38.677 --> 00:43:40.557
Well, blimey.

842
00:43:40.777 --> 00:43:41.797
What director?

843
00:43:41.877 --> 00:43:44.298
And I'm a preacher, you know.

844
00:43:44.618 --> 00:43:44.978
Yeah, yeah.

845
00:43:45.018 --> 00:43:47.319
So I said, okay, we'll restart.

846
00:43:47.459 --> 00:43:48.579
So I asked the question again.

847
00:43:48.839 --> 00:43:49.479
Nobody talked.

848
00:43:50.732 --> 00:43:53.573
Finally, Jasser Muhammad talked, muzzled.

849
00:43:54.793 --> 00:44:02.096
He's like, I believe in one God, Allah, and Muhammad is his prophet, and I believe God created all this.

850
00:44:03.596 --> 00:44:09.878
And one of our camera guys, who's a believer who knows me real well, he goes, Greg, I can see your hands shaking.

851
00:44:10.238 --> 00:44:13.299
It looked like you're gonna grab your pocket New Testament and go scarface.

852
00:44:13.559 --> 00:44:14.760
Say hello to my little friend.

853
00:44:15.961 --> 00:44:17.682
Here's the Bible.

854
00:44:18.282 --> 00:44:20.343
And I just listened.

855
00:44:20.863 --> 00:44:25.726
And I could almost hear my wife in one ear saying, just listen to him.

856
00:44:26.547 --> 00:44:27.247
Just love him.

857
00:44:27.808 --> 00:44:31.290
And I could hear the Holy Spirit in the other ear saying, listen to your wife.

858
00:44:32.457 --> 00:44:34.661
And then Emma, the Buddhist, talked.

859
00:44:34.821 --> 00:44:36.724
And then everybody began to open up.

860
00:44:36.924 --> 00:44:38.947
And all of a sudden, everybody's open.

861
00:44:39.027 --> 00:44:40.429
And they're sharing their beliefs.

862
00:44:40.709 --> 00:44:41.310
And they're different.

863
00:44:42.051 --> 00:44:44.254
So everybody shares kind of their view.

864
00:44:44.495 --> 00:44:45.436
And then it was my turn.

865
00:44:46.459 --> 00:44:49.940
So I start kind of teaching from Genesis 1, who I believe God is.

866
00:44:50.641 --> 00:44:52.261
And everybody's like, hold on, Zane forgot.

867
00:44:52.281 --> 00:44:53.782
You know, we skipped Zane.

868
00:44:53.882 --> 00:44:58.804
And so Zane was the former drug dealer, surfer, Christian, you know.

869
00:44:59.304 --> 00:45:04.746
And he's like, yeah, so like I was listening to Jasser Muhammad, right?

870
00:45:04.826 --> 00:45:05.947
You believe in one God?

871
00:45:06.167 --> 00:45:07.047
I do too, brah.

872
00:45:07.347 --> 00:45:08.308
His name is Jesus.

873
00:45:09.128 --> 00:45:13.109
And he goes, and Emma, like you, you're a Buddhist because you love peace.

874
00:45:13.489 --> 00:45:13.849
Guess what?

875
00:45:13.909 --> 00:45:15.909
Jesus calls himself the Prince of Peace.

876
00:45:16.450 --> 00:45:19.150
He went through everyone who shared.

877
00:45:19.270 --> 00:45:21.511
He took something from every one of their beliefs.

878
00:45:21.931 --> 00:45:22.851
He wove together.

879
00:45:22.971 --> 00:45:24.111
This is like day one.

880
00:45:24.151 --> 00:45:26.512
He wove together a beautiful gospel presentation.

881
00:45:26.552 --> 00:45:32.333
I go, I'm just sitting there thinking in my mind, I'm getting schooled by a former drug dealer with half the brain cells in his head.

882
00:45:33.033 --> 00:45:35.574
This way of evangelism is awesome.

883
00:45:35.794 --> 00:45:36.834
My wife was right.

884
00:45:36.915 --> 00:45:37.955
We should listen more.

885
00:45:38.475 --> 00:45:46.318
So we developed a strategy called Ask, Admire, Admit that we learned on the top of a volcano in Maui.

886
00:45:46.398 --> 00:45:56.422
Ask questions, listen, admire what you can't about what somebody believes, find common ground like Zane did, and admit the reason you're a Christian is you desperately need Jesus to save you.

887
00:45:56.922 --> 00:46:04.165
So that really, that kind of really formed and forged along with my wife's gentleness and kindness.

888
00:46:04.426 --> 00:46:10.228
And just, I remember when I first met her, I was in university and she'd be like, how are you?

889
00:46:10.288 --> 00:46:10.889
I go, I'm good.

890
00:46:10.909 --> 00:46:11.849
She goes, how are you really?

891
00:46:11.909 --> 00:46:12.869
I'm like, I'm not good.

892
00:46:13.350 --> 00:46:16.551
I would just find myself just opening up my life to her.

893
00:46:16.691 --> 00:46:18.152
And I said, there's something about it.

894
00:46:19.218 --> 00:46:29.029
you know, the act of love and listening to people, you know, and my wife has been preaching that to me with her life for years.

895
00:46:29.109 --> 00:46:32.193
And now that's kind of come into our dare to share training.

896
00:46:32.213 --> 00:46:33.874
And I think it's made it that much more effective.

897
00:46:34.655 --> 00:46:35.797
I want to meet her.

898
00:46:36.297 --> 00:46:59.814
you she's sweet she's awesome she's a teacher at the same she was a teacher at the same school for 30 years oh wow so outside of harvada colorado i'm the dare to share guy inside i'm mrs dears husband everywhere we go she's legendary and you've also written a book yes you are an author yeah that book right there oh they happen to have it oh wow how did that get there

899
00:47:01.775 --> 00:47:13.162
Unlikely Fighter is about your story growing up, growing up in a rough and tumble family and them all encountering Jesus and coming to faith.

900
00:47:13.333 --> 00:47:14.594
Yeah, it's 22 chapters.

901
00:47:14.614 --> 00:47:16.815
The first 21 happened before I turned 16.

902
00:47:16.875 --> 00:47:25.439
It's really about the power of the gospel and a hillbilly preacher who was willing to dare to share the good news of Christ.

903
00:47:25.539 --> 00:47:26.600
It's also on Audible.

904
00:47:26.920 --> 00:47:29.281
So if you get it on Audible, I will read it to you myself.

905
00:47:30.422 --> 00:47:32.262
Oh, come on.

906
00:47:32.282 --> 00:47:35.344
But it's really, I just want to give glory to God.

907
00:47:36.805 --> 00:47:39.086
It's the power of the gospel of Jesus Christ.

908
00:47:40.326 --> 00:47:46.469
And so I believe I've dedicated my life to two things, the potential of young people and the power of the gospel.

909
00:47:46.989 --> 00:47:50.011
And when those two things come together, it's like nitrogen and glycerin.

910
00:47:50.611 --> 00:47:52.592
It changes nations.

911
00:47:53.092 --> 00:47:53.772
I just love that.

912
00:47:53.792 --> 00:47:54.273
I think from...

913
00:47:55.313 --> 00:47:59.198
all that you're sharing that one, don't underestimate yourself.

914
00:47:59.498 --> 00:47:59.718
Yeah.

915
00:47:59.858 --> 00:48:09.209
God can use anyone and everyone, no matter your age, no matter your background, no matter what the Holy spirit can speak through you and change lives.

916
00:48:10.050 --> 00:48:13.974
And also the fact that like, it's a simple gospel.

917
00:48:13.994 --> 00:48:14.095
Yeah.

918
00:48:14.795 --> 00:48:15.916
It's a simple gospel.

919
00:48:16.376 --> 00:48:33.783
And with the tools that you guys have written up and this wonderful card right here, now that I get to memorize and get to share my faith with people on the streets or wherever it is, I feel more equipped and I feel more challenged to share my faith.

920
00:48:33.803 --> 00:48:35.083
I'm more encouraged, in fact.

921
00:48:35.483 --> 00:48:42.066
I think I can feel quite scared when I'm out on the streets, when we're interviewing people or even just in the daily.

922
00:48:42.826 --> 00:48:43.987
I feel that burden for sure.

923
00:48:44.027 --> 00:48:52.211
Like, Oh my gosh, I want to share my faith with people, but I, for some reason don't want Phil, don't feel necessarily equipped and don't know like what to say.

924
00:48:52.271 --> 00:48:53.351
Don't want to be awkward.

925
00:48:53.391 --> 00:48:55.192
But there's something that you were saying, right?

926
00:48:55.452 --> 00:48:59.454
That you guys used to have the t-shirt of like awkward is awkward is awesome.

927
00:48:59.894 --> 00:49:04.256
You know, when you share the gospel, I mean, it can get awkward.

928
00:49:04.917 --> 00:49:07.698
Um, and you know, uh, uh, uh, uh,

929
00:49:08.158 --> 00:49:16.541
Here with Aaron, you know, with the charge, which is doing the same thing across the UK, you know, training and equipping young people to share the gospel.

930
00:49:16.842 --> 00:49:22.184
When I landed, he was trying to set me up for a gospel conversation at a Starbucks.

931
00:49:23.164 --> 00:49:29.827
And he kind of opened it up and then she had a button that said, ask me about my allergies.

932
00:49:30.607 --> 00:49:32.668
So I thought, oh, what are your allergies?

933
00:49:32.788 --> 00:49:34.009
And I was trying to make a joke.

934
00:49:34.029 --> 00:49:36.411
And she's like, oh, and she started listening.

935
00:49:36.431 --> 00:49:38.412
I'm like, oh, this is not working.

936
00:49:38.512 --> 00:49:43.716
So awkward is not always awesome.

937
00:49:44.156 --> 00:49:49.239
But I feel like, you know, if you look at Jesus, I mean, he got into awkward conversations.

938
00:49:49.279 --> 00:49:51.100
Told the woman at the well, go get your husband.

939
00:49:51.701 --> 00:49:53.082
And she said, I don't have a husband.

940
00:49:53.865 --> 00:49:57.869
He said, yeah, you've had five husbands, and the dude you're shacking up with now is not your husband.

941
00:49:57.909 --> 00:49:59.250
That's awkward, right?

942
00:49:59.470 --> 00:49:59.990
Yeah.

943
00:50:00.050 --> 00:50:01.932
Awkward.

944
00:50:02.012 --> 00:50:03.033
But he leaned in.

945
00:50:03.453 --> 00:50:04.795
And I think we've got to love people.

946
00:50:04.815 --> 00:50:05.475
We get to be kind.

947
00:50:05.495 --> 00:50:06.396
We have to be equipped.

948
00:50:06.676 --> 00:50:07.036
Yeah.

949
00:50:07.157 --> 00:50:08.938
But it's going to lead to awkward situations.

950
00:50:08.998 --> 00:50:19.908
But there's something about the churn of that awkward, when you share the gospel in love, that can really stir in people's hearts and make them think at night.

951
00:50:19.968 --> 00:50:20.688
Like, man, maybe...

952
00:50:21.529 --> 00:50:22.890
Maybe I need to take a look at my life.

953
00:50:22.910 --> 00:50:24.371
Maybe I need to take a look at Jesus.

954
00:50:24.931 --> 00:50:25.592
My faith in him.

955
00:50:25.912 --> 00:50:26.272
So good.

956
00:50:26.312 --> 00:50:29.214
If you know John 3, 16, you can share the gospel.

957
00:50:29.334 --> 00:50:29.974
That's so good.

958
00:50:30.075 --> 00:50:31.976
Just be kind and loving and bold.

959
00:50:32.876 --> 00:50:33.497
I love that.

960
00:50:33.657 --> 00:50:34.337
That's so good.

961
00:50:35.038 --> 00:50:41.802
Greg, before we kind of say goodbye and we finish off this episode, because we've been chatting so much in the best way possible.

962
00:50:41.822 --> 00:50:42.522
It's been brilliant.

963
00:50:42.603 --> 00:50:43.383
I've learned so much.

964
00:50:44.504 --> 00:50:48.867
What's one final message or final encouragement that you would like to give our viewers?

965
00:50:49.387 --> 00:50:49.587
Yeah.

966
00:50:50.858 --> 00:50:56.725
So I carry with me in my backpack a work glove.

967
00:50:58.927 --> 00:51:00.829
And the work glove doesn't work.

968
00:51:02.792 --> 00:51:03.593
It just lays there.

969
00:51:05.114 --> 00:51:06.436
I should call it lazy glove.

970
00:51:08.178 --> 00:51:09.179
It doesn't do anything.

971
00:51:10.551 --> 00:51:12.412
even though it advertises a work glove.

972
00:51:13.733 --> 00:51:19.217
But you know, when I put my hand in that work glove, that work glove can do anything my hand can do.

973
00:51:19.917 --> 00:51:23.620
Well, apart from me, Jesus said, you can do nothing.

974
00:51:24.661 --> 00:51:28.543
But when we are filled with his spirit, it's Christ in us and through us.

975
00:51:29.464 --> 00:51:33.907
So every day, get filled with the spirit, Christ can use you.

976
00:51:35.739 --> 00:51:55.750
wow that is like bar after bar of wisdom this entire podcast i love that so much and and guys we really hope that you have been encouraged to with this episode um we really hope that you can go away from this feeling more equipped to go out and share the gospel and yeah our challenge to you right now is why don't you start right now

977
00:51:56.390 --> 00:52:02.595
Why don't you reach out to a mate of yours who perhaps you haven't spoken to in a while who maybe doesn't know about Jesus?

978
00:52:02.795 --> 00:52:06.458
And why don't you step out in boldness and give it a go?

979
00:52:06.558 --> 00:52:08.800
See what the Lord does through your simple obedience.

980
00:52:09.400 --> 00:52:12.482
But Greg, it has just been such a joy to have you with us.

981
00:52:12.562 --> 00:52:17.246
Genuinely, we are so grateful that you've come over and you've joined us today.

982
00:52:17.846 --> 00:52:19.027
Thank you so much for your wisdom.

983
00:52:19.187 --> 00:52:19.608
Thank you.

984
00:52:20.228 --> 00:52:21.449
I'm so proud of you both.

985
00:52:22.730 --> 00:52:38.217
and the whole team here because you all love jesus and uh god is using you in powerful ways just keep your eyes on him bless you thank you thank you so much guys it's been a joy we will see you in the next episode see you soon bye