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I hit every number I ever chased, and none of it fixed the thing I was actually running from.

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The deal closes, the number hits, the houses, the cars, the body, the women, the fun.

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And by Tuesday, I've already moved the goalpost to the next one.

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Or I'm pouring a drink at 6 p.m. to celebrate something you can't even feel.

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If you believe the next milestone is going to quiet what's going on inside of you, I need you to hear what happened when I got there.

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The thing that finally helped was nothing I could buy.

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At the end, I'll tell you exactly what it was.

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And the one question I ask myself every single day now.

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And it takes 10 seconds.

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This is my story with the parts I used to leave out, all included, all the dirty, darkest secrets that I used to be embarrassed to talk about.

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I'm going to start with the tough story.

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By the way, I'm Kelly Siegel and this is Harder Than Life, but you probably already knew that.

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For you new people, I apologize.

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I get excited.

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These are my favorite shows.

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I love the interviews on Tuesdays.

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We do them every other Friday in Fort Lauderdale, but...

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These solo episodes, they're so hard for me to prepare for and so hard for me to do.

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I love doing hard things.

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It means in growth.

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I love things that scare me.

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So please, if you're winning on the outside and losing inside, this episode will be for you.

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So subscribe on YouTube, follow on Spotify and Apple and Amazon, and think about who you can send this to.

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Man, I really appreciate it.

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So sorry, I'm going to tell you a story now.

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We're going to get into it.

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of why I chased the shiny new thing.

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My stepfather told me over and over, I would amount to nothing.

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And winning was the only control that I felt I had.

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So over and over, my stepfather, you're stupid, you're ignorant, you're dumb, you're too slow, you make too many mistakes.

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You're an idiot.

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You're a fuck up.

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You'll never amount to anything.

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So my answer was watch me or at the time hold my beer.

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Winning was the only control I had in that house.

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And boy, did I got all A's.

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I was a small kid and I was the best player in every sport.

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I just outworked everybody, out hustled everybody.

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My will to win overpowered anybody's will not to, as well as my stepfather's will to keep me small.

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Most high achievers aren't chasing a number.

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They're chasing the feeling they think they'll feel when they achieve said number.

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They'll feel safe.

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They'll feel enough.

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They'll feel worthy.

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They're finally done.

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There's a term for this.

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It's called a rival fallacy.

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It's from the Harvard positive psychology teacher, Tal Ben Shahar.

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The belief that when you arrive,

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You'll feel it.

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You arrive and you don't.

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I'm going to tell you all about it because I've been there and done that.

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I want you to start with this.

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Finish this sentence out loud.

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When I hit blank, I finally blank.

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Whatever's in that second blank is what you're actually chasing.

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Write that down.

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You'll need it at the end of this podcast.

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I filled in my blank with money.

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Here's how that went.

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I got the money.

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In my 20s, I chased money like it was auctions.

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It's the only thing I talked about.

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My friends would go nuts.

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All he ever talks about is working and growing and money.

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In my 30s, I earned it.

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And I blew it trying to buy the piece I hadn't earned yet.

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My mid forties, I had the houses, the cars, front row seats to every concert, every game, a company on fire, body like an Adonis, women everywhere, cut any line to any club, thought I was cool.

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I walked in my bathroom one night and saw it, the money, the muscles and the misery.

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Still the little kid from South Warren trying to earn love with performance.

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You can't out earn low self-worth, my friends.

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I tried.

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You can't stack cash on a cracked foundation, on a scared, broken nervous system.

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Here's the proof.

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A 2023 study by Daniel Kahneman and Matthew Killingsworth found that for most people, more money keeps nudging happiness up.

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But for the unhappiest 20%, it flattens out.

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More money stops helping.

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If you're already hurting inside, the raise won't reach it.

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I've said a thousand times, money won't make you happy, but happiness will make you money.

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Money does solve a lot of problems, but not the one in your head, and we're going to get into it.

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Remember, what is the old saying?

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Money is the root of all evil.

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My money was loud because my soul was quiet.

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My insecurities were loud too.

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Track your money like a rep.

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I do.

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Every dollar.

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But track one more number next to it.

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How many days this month did you feel at peace?

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True peace.

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And true peace is in your heart where you're really not chasing something.

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If the first number goes up and the second number doesn't move, you've got a problem.

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And there's your answer.

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It's what I did.

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I just kept hitting next one after next one after next one.

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I'll be happy when I hit six figures.

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I'll be happy when I hit mid six.

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I'll be happy when I hit seven figures.

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I'll be...

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Reverse it.

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Because it isn't, I'll believe it when I see it.

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When I believe it, I will see it.

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So what I say is, I'm happy now.

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I'm at peace now and money is coming.

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More than I made when I was chasing happiness.

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So I hit those business numbers too, man.

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I kept hitting the 1 million, the 2 million, the 3 million, the 4 million, the 5 million.

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We were stuck at 3 million for many, many years.

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I broke it down, implemented EOS, measured everything and then we boom.

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We had 5 million.

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I hit revenue numbers.

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I never thought I would.

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I believed they'd change everything.

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Everything felt flat.

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I felt defeated.

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And when business dipped even a little bit, I felt like a failure.

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My worth didn't change.

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The numbers did.

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So if you tie your worth together,

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to numbers, your worth goes down and up with the market.

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That's not confidence, that's a stock price.

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And believe me, in the next year, we're gonna feel it.

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You can see the numbers are trending in a real bad way.

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And it's midterms.

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So again, I'm not trying to be a political science major, but I've been watching this for years.

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And the way I'm seeing people spend money, please, please, please stop spending money and getting yourself in debt.

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That's just a side note.

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I see more people at their airports traveling.

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Credit card debt is through the roof.

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I see people refinancing their homes for a higher interest rate, doing home equity loans.

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Please don't do this.

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Please, please.

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Achievement is not fulfillment.

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The money will not make you happy.

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But fulfillment will make you money and it will help you achieve.

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They both matter.

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They're just measured on different scoreboards.

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Again, here's a general rule of thumb.

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I live by two scoreboards, one for business, reviewed.

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I review it.

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daily, but it's reviewed with the team weekly.

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And I do this on Sundays for my week as well.

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I review what I'm going to get done.

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So two different square boards, one for you, check daily, never let one stand in for the other.

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There's one system I run by, the guy who's worth rides the revenue line, brings that number home to dinner every night.

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Keep in mind, I was that guy.

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If something bad happened at work, I walked in that door, poured a bigger scotch, and bled all over my family that did not cut me.

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you probably are done if I am shaking your head.

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Boy, the kids and your significant other can feel this and they can read it on your face.

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Remember this stuff is caught, not taught.

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You, you can tell them all day long to not do, do as I say, not as I do.

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And they're going to follow in your footsteps case and study.

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I was just unpacking my stepfather today.

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Really?

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He was trying to tell me not to drink, but I followed right in his footsteps.

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Be a drunk.

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Guys, remember, if someone you know just hit a big number and seems emptier than ever, send them this episode and subscribe on YouTube, Spotify, and Apple, and Amazon.

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So you're here next week for the payoff.

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It'll let you know when the new shows come out every Tuesday and Thursday.

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So we're kind of coming up against it.

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What I was actually running from, if you follow me for any amount of time, you're going to know and you're going to be shaking your head.

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Yeah, I know what he's going to say next.

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Remember, uh...

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The drinking was the symptom, not the disease.

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I figured this out with several coaches, an IFS practitioner, EMDR therapist, and it showed me I was just punishing my inner child.

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He was acting a fool.

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20-some years of scotch at every feeling.

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Numbing is dumbing.

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Believe me, I aired several episodes about this.

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I thought the drinking was the problem.

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It was the symptom, the work, the workouts, the money, same thing, different bottle until you heal.

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What do they say?

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You want better fruit?

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Heal the root.

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The root was the mirror man.

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It took several strategic coaches, an IFS practitioner, several therapists, and several months of honesty to see it.

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I wasn't training my body.

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I wasn't chasing a number.

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I wasn't just punishing that child.

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Every rep, every 4 a.m. alarm was a kid trying to earn the right to exist, to be seen, and to be heard, and to be loved.

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If I just was big and strong, the world would love me, and then I'll love me.

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Underneath the chase for a lot of us, yes, I'm going to say it, shame and unworthiness.

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I used to say I'm not enough.

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I'm unlovable.

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I said it very quietly.

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Something's wrong with me.

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The numbers were my evidence against it, and the evidence never won the case.

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Oh, I'm part of a successful company.

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Of course I'm worthy.

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Not when I looked in the mirror, my friends.

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I'm going to give you it in plain English.

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No woo-woo and no fluff.

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The drink, the deal, the workout, the affair, the scroll, the eating, the cannabis.

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Take one away and another one shows up.

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That's how you know it's a symptom.

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You cannot audit the room you're standing in.

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I tried to fix it alone for 40 years and failed miserably.

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Rule, here's a rule that I live by.

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We'll call it a seagullism.

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One person who isn't on your payroll gets to look at your life.

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A coach, a counselor, a therapist, one.

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And take their message, even if it's a mess.

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Do you want my help?

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finding one of these people to best match you so you don't waste your time and money, people that actually sell the proof and not the promise, email me, kelly at heartandlife.com.

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I'll send you to people that I have worked with and that I've been on the show and that are the real deal.

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So what actually happened when I did all this work?

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What actually helped?

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What moved the needle?

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Nothing I could buy.

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Nothing.

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The payoff came from nothing I could buy.

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When I finally sat with that kid, that loud kid that was governing everything, my inner child, the first thing he said was, thank you for seeing me.

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I'd never seen him.

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I always abandoned him.

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He'd been waiting for 40 plus years, acting a fool, making me do stupid things, things that I regret, things I'm ashamed of.

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But I'd share them all with you to pay it forward.

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Don't be stupid like me.

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Address that little inner child.

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We all have them.

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Even if we grew up a great childhood,

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Usually, pro tip guys, if somebody starts off with, I grew up in a great family.

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Everything was perfect.

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They're usually the people that I've interviewed that have a harder time finding that inner child, that loud inner child.

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In the work, I found three parts running my life.

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A driver, a protector, and that little kid.

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The driver chased numbers.

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The protector drank alcohol and chased women.

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Hoorah, that was fun.

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Yeah, until it wasn't.

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The kid just wanted to be told he was enough and that he was safe and he was okay and he was lovable.

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None of that came from a bank account, guys.

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None of it.

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It came from the coaching, counseling, and doing the work like it was my job.

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And believe me, it's the most important job that you have.

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Get your mind right.

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Get your grind right.

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Which, teaser alert, is the subtitle of my next book, Healthier Than Life.

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I have the things sitting out, and I'm going to start writing it soon, so it'll be out sometime next year.

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Again, none of that came from my bank account.

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It came from doing the work.

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Kind of like my muscles.

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None of it came from any enhancements, any supplements.

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It came from doing the work.

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I changed the scoreboard.

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My old metrics was...

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Did they take my advice?

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Did I hit the number?

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Now it's one prompt on my phone every day.

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And I will see if I can share it with you.

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It says exactly this, my friends.

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It says, stay in self today, surrender, retire from the rescue business.

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Peace and joy are not created, they just are.

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You can see that.

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If you're watching this on YouTube, I'm holding it up.

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Hopefully you can see it.

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I think it's a little blurry.

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If you want, I'll send it to you.

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Stay in self today.

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What self means in one sentence, no woo-woo, the calm, clear version of you that's in charge when the old parts aren't driving.

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Guys, we know him.

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He shows up in crisis and handles it.

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Actually, I call that guy Siegel.

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That's how I Siegel did.

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So I always give you guys steps.

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This time is a four-step process.

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Number one, step one, set a reminder for the same time every day.

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Mine says, did you stay in self?

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You just saw it.

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Step two, when it goes off, answer yes or no.

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Did I stay in self today?

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No essay.

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Step three, if it's a no, write one line.

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Which part was driving?

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Who had the wheels?

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The driver, the protector, or the kid, or whatever you guys call them.

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Get with a therapist and you'll name them.

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Step four, go back to the blank you wrote in the first part of this episode.

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When I hit blank, I'll finally blank.

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The second blank is the feeling.

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Stop trying to buy it.

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Start practicing it.

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And why do I do this daily?

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The numbers get reviewed weekly.

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You get reviewed every day because you show up every day.

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And what do I tell you guys?

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Why do we shower every day?

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Because it works.

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If not, you will stink.

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Don't stink.

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We don't want you to stink.

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And believe me, not measuring this happiness, this peaceful number, the staying in self number, you'll stink.

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You'll stink and everybody will smell you.

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I hear this excuse a lot.

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This sounds soft.

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It's the hardest rep I do, man.

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It's not soft.

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Hitting a number is easy for guys like us.

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Staying in self.

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When the number hits or doesn't is the real work.

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Doing it on the hard days.

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That's why it's named Harder Than Life, not Easier Than Life.

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Most won't.

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You will.

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This is what it gave me, man.

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Joy and peace.

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not the scoreboard, not the accolades.

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I've had the numbers without the piece, and I'll take the piece every time.

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And when I get the piece, it feels a little unfamiliar.

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It feels very unfamiliar.

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I don't know what's going to happen next.

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So I sit in the unknown a lot.

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So remember uncomfortable, unfamiliar and unknown means you're growing.

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If everything feels familiar, you're doing the same thing over and over and over again, expecting a different result.

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So get in those uncomfortable, unfamiliar and stay in the unknown.

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How you do that, silence, solitude, and stillness.

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All the things that we don't do.

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So again, my simple and easy question, once a day, yes or no, did I stay in self today?

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Thank you guys for being here, man.

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This was a fun one to record.

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As you can tell, the piece of me has brought my tone and tonality down.

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If you listen to some of the earlier Thursday episodes, I feel, I felt I was angry.

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It was that angry inner child lecturing you.

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So right now, you'll see me taking my time, going slow, riffing.

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I have a few notes in front of me, but most of this is from my heart and my soul and my peace.

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So I chased the number to prove a voice wrong.

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I got the money, the business, the body, and it fixed nothing because it was never the problem.

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The thing that helped was nothing I could buy.

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Remember, one question, did I stay in self today?

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I thought success was a finish line.

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It was the mirror.

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If you're winning out on the outside and losing on the inside, this one's for you.

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Tell me the number you thought would fix it.

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Send it in my DMs.

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Send it to me in email.

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I read them all and I will respond.

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Email's kelly at harderthanlife.com.

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If what's underneath is heavy, don't do this alone.

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A coach, a counselor, a doctor, just one person.

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Seek help.

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And make sure that that person is excelling in the area that you're reaching out to.

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Someone who's done the work.

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Someone who's winning.

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The person at the top who looks like he has it all.

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Subscribe on YouTube and follow him on Spotify and Apple Podcasts.

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Save it for the day you hit your next number and feel empty.

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Remember, I'm Kelly Siegel, and I'm reminding you to face your fears, to live your dreams.

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Until next Thursday, be harder than life.

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