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I think one of the scariest things is feeling out of control.

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That is always like the most frightening to me,

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because I'd like to know why I'm feeling a certain way.

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That's why defining the terms was so important to me

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so that I could know how to solve it.

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The wealthiest people in the world see business as a game.

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This podcast, the game is my attempt

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at documenting the lessons I've learned

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on my way to building acquisition.com

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into a billion dollar portfolio.

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My hope is that you use the lessons to grow your business

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and maybe someday soon partner with us

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to get $200 million in beyond.

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I hope you share and enjoy.

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If I struggle with something, it usually means

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that I don't understand it well enough.

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And so I spend a lot of time trying to define terms

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in ways that I can actually do something about them.

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And so sadness comes from a lack of options,

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which is why it feels like hopelessness.

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Anxiety comes from many options,

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but a lack of priorities, which is why it feels like paralysis,

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looking everywhere, but moving nowhere.

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And so you solve sadness with knowledge and anxiety

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with a decision.

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And so if you don't know what to do,

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you have to find out what to do.

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If you have too many things to do,

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you have to make a commitment by deciding

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of all the paths, this is the one I will choose.

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And so decision-solving anxiety, knowledge, solve sadness.

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I don't genuinely, I don't experience sadness a ton.

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And so if I feel it, I'm like, this is weird.

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Why do I feel this?

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And so trying to get to the root cause of like,

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why do I feel sadness right now?

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I feel sadness because I don't know what to do.

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I feel sadness because I don't know what to do.

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And so if I don't know what to do,

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it means that I feel like I have no action that I can take.

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And as somebody who is predisposed

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to taking action pretty well,

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that's not a common feeling for me.

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But then it was like, okay, well,

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then I have to figure out what actions I have available to me

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and then I can move forward.

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But then even the idea that I had to find out

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what actions I had gave me the first action to take,

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they got me stopped feeling sad.

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I mean, the real real was that it was not that long ago

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because I was thinking about what direction to take acquisition.com,

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like from our investment perspective.

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I was like, I felt like handcuffed in a lot of ways

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or I'm like, I just don't know what to do.

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Cause I have like, I have this brand here.

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I have this investment thesis

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that I started prior to my brand.

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But I like to stick with things for a long time.

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On the other hand, I like to take in new data

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that affects the overall equation.

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And so it was kind of conflicting

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two different values that I have

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being consistent but also being malleable.

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And it was basically me trying to walk through that

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and figure out what to do.

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At the time, I didn't feel like I had any

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because I was like, what am I supposed to do?

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And then the first objective was like,

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figure out what my options are.

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And then, cause like, anxiety's like,

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you already have all these options.

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Cause like, you can move from sadness to anxiety.

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So you don't have any options

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then you figure out all your options

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and then you feel anxious, but no longer sad.

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So I think that's why people cycle back

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and forth between those things.

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Fundamentally, if you were trying to, quote,

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discover options, then you have to gain knowledge.

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And so you gain knowledge through the way

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that you are most efficient at.

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Some people read, some people watch videos,

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some people listen to podcasts,

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some people have conversations.

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Me personally, I tend to talk to people.

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I'm a verbal processor.

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And so I mean, my team knows it.

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Like I have a lot of, I don't want to say

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like junk conversations, but basically,

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I play things out out loud in front of people

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and then nine times out of 10, none of that's going to happen.

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But I like having the, the sounding board.

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And that's how I process through things

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with other people and also getting expert opinions

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of people who've been there or know somebody who has

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so that they can give me some insights

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that I might not be aware of yet.

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So I knew a business owner who was getting threatened

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by his wife to sell his company

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and it's actually happened a handful of times, unfortunately.

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And so it's very, basically like,

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you have to choose me or you have to choose the business.

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And the guy usually feels like he doesn't know what to do

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and that's super soul crushing

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because you're like, man, there's this thing

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that I really care about, which is my wife and my family.

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which is my business.

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And then somebody's making an ultimatum,

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you have to pick, which is like basically

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dying to one side of yourself.

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And so that's an example of like not knowing what to do,

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like doesn't know the options

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or doesn't see a good option in front of them.

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And I think that would qualify in my opinion.

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Like you might, sure, but that's usually why

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when people feel like there's no way out,

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that's why people get depressed.

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They don't, they can't, because there's always an option.

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You can always end it, right?

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Like there's always an option, right?

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And so it's just there isn't a good option one,

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but people want, when they run out of

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what they perceive is good options

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is when the sadness just starts spiraling in my opinion.

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I think he was breaking it down into chunks

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and saying like, these are not absolutes,

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these are not halftos, these are just choices

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and they have trade-offs.

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And then there's the scene in suits, which is a TV show.

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They said if somebody points a gun to your head,

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it's not that you have no, like one option.

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It's like there's 147 things you can do

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in that exact moment.

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It's like you can duck, you can block,

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you can punch them, you can try and take the gun,

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you can do whatever you set.

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There's a lot of different things that you can do.

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And so I love that frame of like there's 147 things

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that we can do from what is perceived to be a bad option.

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And so usually also to the same degree,

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the wife or the partner or the spouse

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or whoever is making this quote threat

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because it is that, it's do this or else.

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Usually it's because they don't have the skills

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to know that there's another way to accomplish their objective

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because what does that person really want?

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They don't actually want the person to end their business.

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They want something else because like they don't actually,

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like the business owner ending his business

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doesn't actually do anything.

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They hope that it then creates a secondary effect

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which is also a really loose connection to get what they want.

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So simply saying like, what are you most afraid of

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and what do you want most?

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tend to get what way more to or what do you want to avoid the most?

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I mean, that's the fear, right?

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Gets to the heart of the matter

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and it might just be like, I want you to be home more.

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Okay, well then I can just work from home.

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Does that solve it?

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And it's like, well no, I want you to pay more attention to me.

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It's like, okay, those are different things.

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What if I leave, but when I come back,

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I spend two hours without my phone with you.

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Would that solve your concern, right?

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And then you might, you know, or he might say yes.

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And so I think it's just getting more dialed to,

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and this is the best frame that I can give

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when it comes to anxiety, sadness,

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or really like any big decision that I have to make,

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is I think, what am I going to change about what I do?

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So a lot of people want to, like,

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they think in theories and concepts,

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but it gets really hard to, like, what am I going to do?

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So you want me to end my, but like, cool.

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You want me to end the business,

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but what's going to change about my behavior?

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What do, what do you want me to do

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as a result of this happening?

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And so then you can get way more like,

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if you just said hi to me and buy to me

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and remembered my birthday and, you know, came to it,

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like just, you know, do I have to come to every kids practice?

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No, just, just want a week.

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Okay, like, what do you want me to do?

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And then that just gets it way clear

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and it takes all the emotion out of it

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because you just get to say,

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what actions do you want me to act upon?

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And then it just gets, the conversation gets so much simpler

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because it's not, you don't have to deal with intentions.

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You, you meant to do this.

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This was bad.

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You're like, it takes out judgment.

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It takes out intention.

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It's just we want.

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I think one of the, one of my other favorite frames

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of thinking through these things is,

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which problem would I rather have?

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Because I clearly have a problem right now

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and I'm afraid of a different problem,

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which is why I may be presented with this one.

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But when you actually just start spelling out

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the downside effects of how it's going to again,

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affect your actions, not your perspectives,

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because if it's only going to affect your mind space

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and I'd be like, well, then change your mind, right?

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If it's going to affect behavior,

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then you can outline what behavior is.

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And I'll tell you years ago,

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I was in a lawsuit around something

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that I was supposed to have made a material amount of money on.

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And we ended up winning the suit,

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but it was, when it happened, I thought to myself,

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okay, what is going to change about what I do in my life?

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And I was like, well, in either direction,

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because I was working more at this individual

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in this business endeavor, I was like,

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in either case, I'm going to be doing less work

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because I'm no longer working with them.

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So I'm going to work less.

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And so I either work less and get and don't get paid,

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or I work less and I get paid.

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So either these scenarios are not that bad.

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It's all of the judgment and emotions

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around what I should have gotten, what I deserved, X, Y, and Z,

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that create all the stress around it.

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But if someone said, hey, do you want to just work less

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and not get paid for something

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that you already haven't gotten paid for?

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I would be like, okay, like it's not that bad of a scenario.

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And so just boiling the big amorphous ideas

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down to what changes about your behavior a day to day

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is like, is it going to affect how I spend money?

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No, I'm still young, I'm still married,

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I'm still healthy, and I'm still rich.

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Like it doesn't change anything.

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Okay, well, then why am I worried about it?

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I'm not.

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And the flip side is a lot of people cast judgment

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on stress itself.

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And they see stress as a bad thing.

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Stress is just a part of the human condition.

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Because you want to know who isn't stressed?

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Dead people.

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Until the moment you die, you can always endure it.

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And once you die, you won't have to.

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Stress means that you are still breathing,

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which means it's something we can be grateful for.

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So you have to get used to it.

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And so like the only time you're ever not stressed

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is if you're dead.

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Because you have no ability to be stressed.

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And it's just a hormonal reaction

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to get you to do something, to change behavior.

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as just triggers for behaviors.

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Then it gets a lot simpler to say, okay,

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this hormone triggered behavior in the past,

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which made it conducive to me staying alive.

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Does it necessarily mean that it's helpful for me

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to live the life that I want to live?

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Yes or no, I don't know.

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But at least thinking through that

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and just boiling it down to,

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what am I going to change about what I do?

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Makes it a lot easier to manage these things.

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Because you just don't have this extra.

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The secondary dialogue is where everyone gets in trouble.

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Like, I'm stressed.

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Nothing wrong with that.

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I'm stressed.

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Therefore, I'm a bad person.

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I have problems.

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I have, you know, insert medical label

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that they want to give me so they can prescribe me drugs.

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Like, that, in my opinion, is the issue,

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not the stress itself.

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It's funny, because like Layla and I

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sit on opposite sides of the pole.

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Like, Layla has a pension for anxiety and action.

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I have a pension for like laziness

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and not doing anything.

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And so we work well together

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because I, I can balance, like,

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I'm really just not that stressed that often.

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And that's because my baseline is always death.

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I'm like, I'm alive.

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And if I died, I've been dead before.

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So, and it wasn't that bad.

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So, if you're wondering why I say I've been dead before,

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everyone's been dead before.

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Being dead, you weren't alive.

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Have you been not been alive before?

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Pretty much all years except for the years of your life.

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And so I was dead before I was alive.

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And I'll be dead after I was alive.

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And so, in both instances,

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didn't bug me last time.

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That's how I see it.

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I think a lot of people have negative relationships

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with stress because they were told that it's bad.

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I like someone early on in your,

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it's crazy how much the first exposure

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to a new thing, the label that someone gives you

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of good or bad around whatever that behavior

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or feeling or condition or circumstance is,

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then determines how you think about it for years and years

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and years.

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I remember, I'll tell you a funny one.

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My mom has always tried to like be in shape

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and lose weight and just start with that for years.

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And I remember when I was super young, like, you know, 10-ish.

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I was just getting into fitness

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and she was like, you should curl soup cans.

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I was like, curl soup cans in the kitchen

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because I didn't know and she didn't know anybody either.

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And she was like, she was taking this thing

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and she said, chromium picolinate on it.

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And I was like, what's that?

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And she was like, oh, like, help people with muscle.

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And I was like, okay.

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And I remember when I was 24 years later,

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I'm already a state record holder.

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I own gyms, I have like,

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and I remember thinking, oh, chromium picolinate,

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that's that thing that makes muscle.

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But I know that that's BS.

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But I remembered my first instinct, deeply being,

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oh, this is that thing that builds muscle

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because the first, and I was like, why do I,

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why do I think that?

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I know this is BS.

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Because the first time it was ever introduced to me,

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it was from an authority figure

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who was the only source of information

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that I had at the time around fitness

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and they set it builds muscle.

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And so that was the association I made.

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And so I carried that unknowingly

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until I was made aware of it,

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when I, like, when I basically made myself aware of it

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at 24, having now coached thousands of people

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on wheelos and supplements and all these things.

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I just, that specific one, because it's so niche,

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I hadn't really thought about it,

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and I hadn't revisited my definition on it.

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Real quick, guys, if you can think about

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how you found this podcast,

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somebody probably tweeted it, told you about it,

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shared it on Instagram, or something like that.

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The only way this grows is through word of mouth.

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And so I don't run ads, I don't do sponsorships,

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I don't sell anything.

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My only ask is that you continue to pay it forward,

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whoever showed you or however you found out

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about this podcast that you do the exact same thing.

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So if it was a review, if it was a post,

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if you do that, it would mean the world to me,

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and you'll throw some good karma out there

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for another entrepreneur.

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And so I think a lot of people act the same way with stress,

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is that, like, they were told at a young age

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that this is bad, rather than it means you're alive.

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Investigating believes is super tough, because you believe them.

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So that's why my favorite quote of all time,

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that'll probably be on my Tim Stone is from,

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what's this, Orson Scott Cart says,

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we question all of our beliefs,

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except for those that we truly believe

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and those we never think to question.

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That's my rendition of it, I think,

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because it's a little bit different,

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but I like that way better.

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So that's my quote.

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And I think, because that's the real real,

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it's like, we question all of our beliefs,

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except for the ones that we really believe.

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And it kind of in a way like the partisanship

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of society right now with politics,

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people like really believe.

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And it's like you can trick,

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like you can really short circuit people

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by having an article written where they read it

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about the opposing party of like all the things

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that that person has done wrong.

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And then you just swap the title

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and tell them about, it's about their candidate.

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And then like watch their brain trying rationalize

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because it's so deeply ingrained in their identity,

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because they believe it.

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And so I try to be really careful about things that like,

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if I try to rationalize around something,

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then I know it's pretty deep in my belief system.

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I knew that all these other supplements were BS.

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And I also knew from many other years

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of iterations and learning that it was,

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I just hadn't actually hit like I had this big wall of data

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that hit this one little pocket of knowledge

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because it's such a niche weird supplement.

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If you've been creating, you know,

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I probably heard about creating 100 times protein,

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whatever, I'd heard tons of it.

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But this one was so niche that I had never

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poked at this little hole of ignorance.

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So the action set that I have is

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what's my second line of dialogue?

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So there's something that happens

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and then it's the line of dialogue that happens

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on top of it.

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It's like I am angry.

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If you then feel guilty about your anger

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or for angry about your anger

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or for feel frustrated or strut,

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it's the secondary judgment on the primary reaction.

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Like that's where people spin out and get in trouble.

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They upgrade their problems to much bigger problems.

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Like if you get angry and then get angry about your anger,

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you exponentialize the problem in your life

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whereas on the flip side,

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if you had a secondary line of code or language

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that was just like, I am angry.

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Huh, why is that?

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And just asking why rather than judging,

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what the, like, because I think one of the scariest things

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is feeling out of control.

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And so when, if I feel an emotion

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and I don't know why I feel that way,

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that is always like the most frightening to me

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because I like to, I like to know why I'm feeling

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a certain way.

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And so that's why defining the terms

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is so important to me so that I can know how to solve it.

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Rather than this is good or bad.

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But it's like, I'm horny, I'm tired, I'm angry,

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I'm hungry, it's sunny, it's rainy.

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Like these are just conditions that we can live with

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until you die and they don't have to live with them anymore.

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Listen, you're gonna lose sleep,

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you'll doubt whether it'll work,

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you'll stress to make ends meet,

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you won't finish your to-do list,

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you'll wonder if you made the right call

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and have no way to know for years.

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This is what hard feels like and that's okay.

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And so I remember there was this moment,

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and this is like the moment

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where this is what hard feels like became real for me,

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was I pledged a fraternity way back in the day

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and every, and in my, you know,

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pledge class at day 14, it's just two weeks in,

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there was this big revolt where like,

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this isn't what we sign up for,

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like this is BS, like blah, blah, we hate this, et cetera,

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like this needs to end.

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And so anyways, the brothers came,

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they sat us down and we got through it.

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Now fast forward a year or two, I was president

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and I was on the other side

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and the pledge class that we had revolted at two weeks in.

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And believe it or not,

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that happened with every single pledge class without any knowledge

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that every other pledge class had done this.

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And what it was was a resetting of expectations

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around reality.

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And so I remember sitting down this class

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was kind of funny because they wanted to meet on home field.

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So I went to the freshman campus in one of the dorm rooms

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where all the guys are there.

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So it's like 18 dudes and like me and like my, my, my VP.

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And so it's like they have the numbers, you know what I mean?

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And, and so I was like, okay, guys,

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I was like, when before any of this happened,

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I was like, who here wanted to be a brother here?

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And they all raised it.

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I was like, okay, cool.

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I was like, who here thought it was going to be easy

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and then no one raised their hand.

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I was like, right.

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I was like, I want you to think right now,

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like think about this feeling that yeah,

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the resentment, the difficulty being tired,

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feeling, you know, y'all that, all that stuff.

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I was like, this, this feeling you have.

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I was like, this is what hard feels like.

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Just aren't used to it.

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And so they were, it was like all that was,

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was I just relabeled their experience

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as what they now were, they expected it to be hard.

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They just didn't expect hard to be this.

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And so I said, no, this is hard.

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And they were like, oh.

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And then everything was fine.

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Just reset reality.

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And so I like to think about that with going through business

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things, going through new endeavors,

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making content and it not working, getting lawsuits,

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like all of these things is like, well,

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did I think becoming a billionaire or a multibillionaire

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would be easy?

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No.

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Well, what I'm going through right now is hard.

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And this is what hard feels like.

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And a lot of hardness in my opinion

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is actually dealing with uncertainty.

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And so a lot of us want a guarantee

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from a world that will never give us one.

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And so we want to know, be on a shot of a doubt,

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that if we do these things where to get this outcome,

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and it just isn't true.

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And so we live in this constant state of turmoil

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or tension between reality and our expectations

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because we want it to be guaranteed.

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And we want it to be worth it.

517
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And we don't know if it will be, but that is why it's hard.

518
00:18:20.360 --> 00:18:24.080
And that is why succeeding and persevering despite

519
00:18:24.080 --> 00:18:26.880
it being unknown is worth it.

520
00:18:26.880 --> 00:18:29.000
Because if you plow the alternative scenario where

521
00:18:29.000 --> 00:18:32.720
if you know you type in the cheat code, you win all the levels,

522
00:18:32.720 --> 00:18:34.200
you lose all the fun.

523
00:18:34.200 --> 00:18:36.040
So if you were played a video game where you have

524
00:18:36.040 --> 00:18:38.360
the ultimate sword day one and you know

525
00:18:38.360 --> 00:18:41.160
where every monster is and you can't lose

526
00:18:41.160 --> 00:18:43.480
because you have an impenetrable shield on,

527
00:18:43.480 --> 00:18:44.320
it's not being fun.

528
00:18:44.320 --> 00:18:46.360
And it's the same reason that the Greek gods

529
00:18:46.360 --> 00:18:47.680
envied the mortals.

530
00:18:47.680 --> 00:18:49.560
This is because their lives were ephemeral.

531
00:18:49.560 --> 00:18:51.800
Their lives were, they were mortal.

532
00:18:51.800 --> 00:18:52.760
Anything could happen.

533
00:18:52.760 --> 00:18:54.960
Whereas the gods outcomes were guaranteed.

534
00:18:54.960 --> 00:18:57.400
And so we have this perception that we want this thing.

535
00:18:57.400 --> 00:18:59.640
But if we really were to have that guarantee,

536
00:18:59.640 --> 00:19:03.200
it would circumvent the reason it's worth pursuing to begin with.

537
00:19:03.200 --> 00:19:05.520
And so I try to remind myself of that when I get frustrated

538
00:19:05.520 --> 00:19:07.160
where I stand my foot and have a tantrum and say,

539
00:19:07.160 --> 00:19:09.160
like, this isn't fair, I should know this.

540
00:19:09.160 --> 00:19:11.560
This didn't work out the way I expected it to.

541
00:19:11.560 --> 00:19:13.680
Rather than like, it happened, period.

542
00:19:13.680 --> 00:19:15.320
I'm only upset because I had an expectation

543
00:19:15.320 --> 00:19:17.240
that I hadn't spoken out loud.

544
00:19:17.240 --> 00:19:18.920
And so a lot of times when I am upset,

545
00:19:18.920 --> 00:19:22.560
I think, well, what expectation did I have that is unmet?

546
00:19:22.560 --> 00:19:24.040
And then can I reset the expectation

547
00:19:24.040 --> 00:19:24.960
or can I reset reality?

548
00:19:24.960 --> 00:19:27.680
And most times, it's easier to just reset the expectation.

549
00:19:27.680 --> 00:19:30.680
I think people want a challenge that is worth pursuing

550
00:19:30.680 --> 00:19:34.120
that matches their max ability at the time.

551
00:19:34.120 --> 00:19:35.320
And I think that's where it gets difficult.

552
00:19:35.320 --> 00:19:36.880
Because sometimes it's a little too easy.

553
00:19:36.880 --> 00:19:38.840
And sometimes it's a little bit too hard.

554
00:19:38.840 --> 00:19:42.560
And so you have to know both of those feel like

555
00:19:42.560 --> 00:19:44.120
and be okay with it.

556
00:19:44.120 --> 00:19:47.080
Because life isn't going to give you a perfect challenge, right?

557
00:19:47.080 --> 00:19:48.920
But what it can do or what it will do

558
00:19:48.920 --> 00:19:51.000
is it will give you something that you can endure.

559
00:19:51.000 --> 00:19:53.800
And I think that enduring it itself

560
00:19:53.800 --> 00:19:55.560
gives you proof that you can endure more

561
00:19:55.560 --> 00:19:56.760
than you originally thought.

562
00:19:56.760 --> 00:19:58.000
And I think that gives you evidence

563
00:19:58.000 --> 00:19:59.120
that you can do a lot more.

564
00:19:59.120 --> 00:20:00.560
And I think that's what gets me motivated

565
00:20:00.560 --> 00:20:01.440
even through the hardest times

566
00:20:01.440 --> 00:20:03.600
is that like this will be one of the stories I tell,

567
00:20:03.600 --> 00:20:05.640
not only to other foot to myself.

568
00:20:05.640 --> 00:20:07.240
I think that the right levels of challenge

569
00:20:07.240 --> 00:20:09.360
are actually where people experience flow.

570
00:20:09.360 --> 00:20:11.200
Like when you're editing a video

571
00:20:11.200 --> 00:20:12.960
and you just like get in the zone,

572
00:20:12.960 --> 00:20:14.800
or if you're writing ad copy and you get in the zone,

573
00:20:14.800 --> 00:20:16.640
you're designing a web page and you get in the zone

574
00:20:16.640 --> 00:20:19.000
or you're writing a book and you get in the zone.

575
00:20:19.000 --> 00:20:20.840
Like painting or you're making music

576
00:20:20.840 --> 00:20:21.960
or you're playing video games.

577
00:20:21.960 --> 00:20:24.880
Like it's now video games do actually adjust realities

578
00:20:24.880 --> 00:20:27.440
so that the bosses can get harder or easier for you.

579
00:20:27.440 --> 00:20:28.840
But I think we naturally gravitate

580
00:20:28.840 --> 00:20:30.920
to the things that match our level of challenge

581
00:20:30.920 --> 00:20:32.800
so that time can disappear.

582
00:20:32.800 --> 00:20:35.240
And so I think one of the TLDRs on this

583
00:20:35.240 --> 00:20:36.880
is just emotions in general.

584
00:20:36.880 --> 00:20:41.120
Like do you get tired, stressed, sad, hungry, frustrated,

585
00:20:41.120 --> 00:20:42.040
unfocused?

586
00:20:42.040 --> 00:20:43.360
Do you ever feel misunderstood?

587
00:20:43.360 --> 00:20:44.200
Great.

588
00:20:44.200 --> 00:20:45.040
You're a human.

589
00:20:45.040 --> 00:20:46.480
You don't need medication.

590
00:20:46.480 --> 00:20:49.360
It's just like saying like I, it's sunny days

591
00:20:49.360 --> 00:20:52.040
and anytime it rains, I need to take medication

592
00:20:52.040 --> 00:20:53.680
so that it's always sunny.

593
00:20:53.680 --> 00:20:54.520
It has to be sunny.

594
00:20:54.520 --> 00:20:55.360
It must be sunny.

595
00:20:55.360 --> 00:20:56.840
I need it to be sunny.

596
00:20:56.840 --> 00:20:57.960
Why?

597
00:20:57.960 --> 00:20:59.440
Most of the time it's because we've been told

598
00:20:59.440 --> 00:21:03.280
that being unhappy means that there's something wrong with you.

599
00:21:03.280 --> 00:21:06.200
And I just wholeheartedly reject that notion.

600
00:21:06.200 --> 00:21:07.760
I think way more unhappiness happens

601
00:21:07.760 --> 00:21:09.960
from the judgment on their unhappiness

602
00:21:09.960 --> 00:21:12.040
than unhappiness itself ever caused.

603
00:21:12.040 --> 00:21:13.440
One of my best frames around this

604
00:21:13.440 --> 00:21:15.440
is just thinking of large numbers,

605
00:21:15.440 --> 00:21:18.040
which is like if I have 365 days a year,

606
00:21:18.040 --> 00:21:20.080
what are my bottom 10% days gonna look like?

607
00:21:20.080 --> 00:21:21.160
Probably pretty shitty.

608
00:21:21.160 --> 00:21:23.200
Like bottom 10% like that's a bad,

609
00:21:23.480 --> 00:21:24.480
that's bad day.

610
00:21:24.480 --> 00:21:25.640
How many of those a year do I get?

611
00:21:25.640 --> 00:21:27.240
36?

612
00:21:27.240 --> 00:21:29.400
Well shit, there's 12 months in a year.

613
00:21:29.400 --> 00:21:31.880
Okay, well I'm getting three of those a month.

614
00:21:31.880 --> 00:21:34.840
That's actually like fairly, fairly common.

615
00:21:34.840 --> 00:21:36.440
It's every 10 days.

616
00:21:36.440 --> 00:21:38.160
I have a bottom 10% day.

617
00:21:38.160 --> 00:21:40.400
And so I think about that a lot where I'm like,

618
00:21:40.400 --> 00:21:42.600
I don't necessarily need to change anything.

619
00:21:42.600 --> 00:21:43.640
I think my plan's fine.

620
00:21:43.640 --> 00:21:44.720
I just need to increase my tolerance

621
00:21:44.720 --> 00:21:47.160
or the fact that what bottom 10% days look like,

622
00:21:47.160 --> 00:21:49.000
look feel like bottom 10% days

623
00:21:49.000 --> 00:21:50.880
and I don't need to change anything at all.

624
00:21:50.880 --> 00:21:53.320
I think the reason that I like making this content a lot

625
00:21:53.320 --> 00:21:55.480
is because I actually do think it relates to business

626
00:21:55.480 --> 00:21:59.520
because what's so interesting is I had a team member

627
00:21:59.520 --> 00:22:01.200
shadow some of our core release

628
00:22:01.200 --> 00:22:03.040
with some more portfolio companies.

629
00:22:03.040 --> 00:22:05.520
And he said something interesting.

630
00:22:05.520 --> 00:22:09.400
Interesting for him, obvious for me was all these discussions

631
00:22:09.400 --> 00:22:11.480
are who problems, not how problems.

632
00:22:11.480 --> 00:22:13.200
And I was like, yeah, once you get above a million

633
00:22:13.200 --> 00:22:15.240
amount, everything's who problems.

634
00:22:15.240 --> 00:22:16.760
And so it's all about the people.

635
00:22:16.760 --> 00:22:19.400
And so I talk about this stuff because like as entrepreneurs,

636
00:22:19.400 --> 00:22:21.360
you have to be able to keep your head.

637
00:22:21.360 --> 00:22:22.760
Because fundamentally just like it's,

638
00:22:22.760 --> 00:22:24.120
entrepreneurship comes down to decision making,

639
00:22:24.120 --> 00:22:25.600
comes to allocation of resources.

640
00:22:25.600 --> 00:22:27.440
And so if you can't make consistent decisions

641
00:22:27.440 --> 00:22:29.160
in changing environments,

642
00:22:29.160 --> 00:22:30.600
then you are not fit to be an entrepreneur

643
00:22:30.600 --> 00:22:31.920
or you'll be a less fit entrepreneur.

644
00:22:31.920 --> 00:22:34.160
And so having these constructs that allow you

645
00:22:34.160 --> 00:22:36.920
to reframe reality as not good or bad,

646
00:22:36.920 --> 00:22:38.000
but just as things that happen

647
00:22:38.000 --> 00:22:39.400
and what am I going to do about it,

648
00:22:39.400 --> 00:22:41.280
it doesn't have to be, you don't have,

649
00:22:41.280 --> 00:22:42.240
it doesn't have to be your fault,

650
00:22:42.240 --> 00:22:44.200
but it still will be your problem.

651
00:22:44.200 --> 00:22:45.520
And I love that for him.

652
00:22:45.520 --> 00:22:47.280
And so it great, got it.

653
00:22:47.280 --> 00:22:49.160
Like it's like the teammates want to figure out

654
00:22:49.160 --> 00:22:50.200
who's fault it is on the team.

655
00:22:50.200 --> 00:22:51.480
It doesn't really matter.

656
00:22:51.480 --> 00:22:52.800
What are we going to do?

657
00:22:52.800 --> 00:22:55.200
And then that just massively simplifies the conversation

658
00:22:55.200 --> 00:22:57.400
into what is actually going to propel the business forward.

659
00:22:57.400 --> 00:22:58.880
And the less time we could spend ideating

660
00:22:58.880 --> 00:23:00.880
on fault, intention, blame,

661
00:23:00.880 --> 00:23:02.560
and just on what actions we're going to take,

662
00:23:02.560 --> 00:23:04.240
the faster the organizational move.

663
00:23:04.240 --> 00:23:06.520
And so that usually comes from the top down.

664
00:23:06.520 --> 00:23:08.120
If you have somebody who's gossipy,

665
00:23:08.120 --> 00:23:10.720
who likes to revel in intention,

666
00:23:10.720 --> 00:23:13.440
which is one of my least favorite concepts in general,

667
00:23:13.440 --> 00:23:14.760
because how are you ever going to know

668
00:23:14.760 --> 00:23:15.600
someone's intention?

669
00:23:15.600 --> 00:23:17.520
They don't even know their own intentions.

670
00:23:17.520 --> 00:23:19.800
Like there's no point in wasting all this time

671
00:23:19.800 --> 00:23:21.120
to try and figure it out, which is also

672
00:23:21.120 --> 00:23:23.520
gives lots of questions to the legal system overall,

673
00:23:23.520 --> 00:23:25.960
but leave that as an aside.

674
00:23:26.880 --> 00:23:29.400
Just focusing on action makes everything easier.

675
00:23:29.400 --> 00:23:30.960
I remember when I started my first business,

676
00:23:30.960 --> 00:23:34.280
which was a gym, I had no business starting a business.

677
00:23:34.280 --> 00:23:36.520
And the only reason I was able to start the business

678
00:23:36.520 --> 00:23:39.680
was because I was ignorant of how deficient I really was.

679
00:23:39.680 --> 00:23:41.120
Because if I knew what I knew now,

680
00:23:41.120 --> 00:23:42.560
I don't even know if I would have started,

681
00:23:42.560 --> 00:23:45.960
because it's so hard and I got so lucky so many times

682
00:23:45.960 --> 00:23:47.280
to view where I am today.

683
00:23:47.280 --> 00:23:49.840
Just sheer blind luck in a couple instances.

684
00:23:49.840 --> 00:23:51.160
I think working in a small business

685
00:23:51.160 --> 00:23:52.680
is a great way to get a much better idea.

686
00:23:52.680 --> 00:23:55.680
I came in knowing not, I didn't even know employees were a thing.

687
00:23:55.680 --> 00:23:57.160
Like I didn't know sales was a term.

688
00:23:57.160 --> 00:23:59.080
Like I really, I knew nothing.

689
00:23:59.080 --> 00:24:02.160
Because at one point some of my clients were like,

690
00:24:02.160 --> 00:24:03.280
why don't you hire someone?

691
00:24:03.280 --> 00:24:04.400
And it was like a few months in

692
00:24:04.400 --> 00:24:06.080
and I just hadn't even thought of the,

693
00:24:06.080 --> 00:24:07.920
I just did, I just was like, I'll do everything.

694
00:24:07.920 --> 00:24:11.080
I'll clean, do the books, I'll run the marketing,

695
00:24:11.080 --> 00:24:12.800
I'll do the sales, I'll teach all the classes.

696
00:24:12.800 --> 00:24:14.440
And I was like, I'd chef to pay rent.

697
00:24:14.440 --> 00:24:15.800
Everything else is mine.

698
00:24:15.800 --> 00:24:16.640
Right?

699
00:24:16.640 --> 00:24:17.640
Like that was like, I just didn't,

700
00:24:17.640 --> 00:24:19.120
I also didn't have any more money to pay anyone anyway.

701
00:24:19.120 --> 00:24:21.600
So it wasn't even an option that was on the table.

702
00:24:21.600 --> 00:24:23.400
And so that's how ignorant I was going

703
00:24:23.400 --> 00:24:24.880
into the entrepreneurial journey.

704
00:24:24.880 --> 00:24:26.120
And so I don't think it's what,

705
00:24:26.120 --> 00:24:27.840
I think it's a contract people sign up for

706
00:24:27.840 --> 00:24:29.520
without knowing there's enough for it.

707
00:24:29.520 --> 00:24:31.800
I think paying off ignorance that is the single greatest thing

708
00:24:31.800 --> 00:24:34.560
that everyone can do in their entire lives until they die.

709
00:24:35.560 --> 00:24:37.160
I think Socrates said,

710
00:24:38.160 --> 00:24:40.960
the source of evil is ignorance.

711
00:24:40.960 --> 00:24:42.400
So knowledge would be the ultimate good.

712
00:24:42.400 --> 00:24:45.040
If you knew everything about everything,

713
00:24:45.040 --> 00:24:47.360
like it's kind of like you can't hate someone close up,

714
00:24:47.360 --> 00:24:48.400
try like that terminology.

715
00:24:48.400 --> 00:24:51.080
Like if you completely understood someone's everything,

716
00:24:51.080 --> 00:24:52.440
then you wouldn't be upset with them.

717
00:24:52.440 --> 00:24:54.280
You would understand why they are that way.

718
00:24:54.280 --> 00:24:55.880
And so I think that's another, like,

719
00:24:55.880 --> 00:24:57.400
there's a lot of frames that I've used over the years.

720
00:24:57.400 --> 00:25:00.200
And it's because like I tried to maintain neutrality

721
00:25:00.200 --> 00:25:01.720
as much as humanly possible.

722
00:25:01.720 --> 00:25:03.080
I still mess up.

723
00:25:03.080 --> 00:25:04.840
But if I'm upset with someone,

724
00:25:04.840 --> 00:25:07.000
it's like I must not understand something.

725
00:25:07.000 --> 00:25:08.320
It would probably be a source of their sadness

726
00:25:09.160 --> 00:25:10.840
or I guess it could be a source of their anxiety

727
00:25:10.840 --> 00:25:13.480
if they haven't found a good enough option yet,

728
00:25:13.480 --> 00:25:14.960
which I would then relate back to sadness,

729
00:25:14.960 --> 00:25:15.960
which is they don't know.

730
00:25:15.960 --> 00:25:18.560
Like they don't see a really winner winning option.

731
00:25:18.560 --> 00:25:20.240
They just see lots of bad ones.

732
00:25:20.240 --> 00:25:21.520
And so yeah, I mean, that's why

733
00:25:21.520 --> 00:25:23.360
making real business education accessible for everyone

734
00:25:23.360 --> 00:25:25.000
has been the mission of the business.

735
00:25:25.000 --> 00:25:27.160
It's like if people have more knowledge,

736
00:25:27.160 --> 00:25:28.280
they will make better decisions.

737
00:25:28.280 --> 00:25:29.280
If they make better decisions,

738
00:25:29.280 --> 00:25:30.800
they will live better a lot.

739
00:25:30.800 --> 00:25:33.120
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