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Real life presents the Jack Hibbs podcast with intention and boldness to proclaim truth,

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equip the saints and impact our culture.

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So you think they're demons?

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When I hear about sort of extra natural phenomenon, that's where I go to is the Christian

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understanding that, you know, there's a lot of good out there, but there's also some

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evil out there.

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And I think that one of the devil's great tricks is to convince people we never exist.

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Agreed.

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What I find excellent is you've got not only a sitting vice president, nowhere does he deny

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the existence of the reports.

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He says, we have these things happening and people are reporting these things happening.

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And my answer to those things is this, a biblical answer.

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You can get the outlines of this podcast by going to jackhibbs.com slash podcast.

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Today, if this podcast lifts you up and encourages you to live a more fulfilled life in Christ,

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Now open your hearts to what God's Word has to say to you.

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Here is Jack Hibbs.

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Everybody, listen to this, Congress is spending millions of dollars on this topic.

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There's over 2000 plus cases that are being examined.

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It is a topic that the Congress is now going into, I believe, their second or third year,

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although it's been discussed ever since about 1946, 1947.

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And I'm talking about UAPs or UFOs or more.

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Let's take a look at this.

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This recently, the program that Benny Johnson hosts had Vice President J.D. Vance.

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And Benny Johnson just in that interview jumped right out of the gate and asked this question.

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And so let's do a reaction video.

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Let's do a reaction video to what we heard the Vice President have to say regarding this.

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I don't think they're aliens.

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I think they're demons anyway, but that's a long discussion.

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Well, I can't let you go without a follow-up on that.

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Because Barack Obama is on this podcast and he goes, yeah, aliens are real, but like here's where they're not.

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And so Obama says he gets asked point like aliens are aliens really?

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Oh, yeah.

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So it's true.

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Recently, Barack Obama was asked about aliens, were they true?

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Are they true?

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And if you remember, if you know about this, Barack Obama made a comment about the existence of aliens.

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And then Donald Trump, President Trump jumped in and said he's going to get in trouble for saying that

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because that's classified information.

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Trump didn't deny that what Barack Obama was saying was false.

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President Trump said what Barack Obama is saying is illegal.

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He's not allowed to divulge that information.

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I think that might have been a little bit of theater on the President's side of things.

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The point is this, that ever since in the US anyway, ever since about 1947 in the Roswell events,

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there have been the discussion that has gone very public and ebbs and flows regarding alien activity,

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aliens from other worlds, aliens, UFO, unidentified encounters, unidentified encounters with alien creatures,

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the things that movies have been based upon.

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And so much of that drama and that dynamic, and here, Benny Johnson just asked the Vice President,

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what do you think about UFOs?

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And I really appreciate JD Vance's response because I'm, look, I'm biased.

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I think the Bible has the answer for everything.

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I really do.

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I'm not saying that because that's the team I'm on, I'm saying that I believe, I think you've

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heard me say this stuff before.

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In some ways, I believe that life is rigged to the truth of Scripture.

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In other words, I'll put it this way, that there's nothing that goes on in life that Scripture

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doesn't address.

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What do I base that upon?

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The actual authority of Scripture that has been established not by any human, not by any

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man, not by any system, but by God himself.

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In other words, here we are in the 21st century and such a technologically advanced age and

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time in which we're in.

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And with all of the development of technology and knowledge and information, don't you

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think by now that the Bible would at least have a crack in it somewhere, that something

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has been disproven somewhere, and yet still now today, with all the advancement of technology

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applied to the scrutiny of the Bible, the Bible stands more sure, more firm than ever before.

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Because with every bit of attack, it is able to take the hit.

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And so why am I saying this?

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Because listen to this carefully.

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Second Timothy, excuse me, first Timothy.

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First Timothy chapter 4 verse 1 says Paul the Apostle is speaking to Timothy and listen

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to what he's saying.

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Now the Holy Spirit, expressly says that in the latter times of the end days, some will

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depart from the faith.

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How come?

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Giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons.

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Paul is warning Timothy that in the last days, in the end of days, in the end times, one

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of the many indicators of the last days, by the way Jesus said in the last days, right

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before he returns, there will be signs in the atmosphere.

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There will be signs in the heavens, and people will be deceived.

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In fact, Jesus said, when the disciples asked him in Matthew chapter 24, begin in verse

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1, what will be the sign of these things and the indicator of your return in the end of

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the world?

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Jesus first responds to that.

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Three part question was, beware that nobody deceives you, deception.

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Beware that you're not deceived at all is the word that comes from the Bible, is the

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statement from the Bible.

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So number one, we immediately know from the scripture that there's going to be doctrines

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of demons and deceiving spirits that are going to be very powerful in the last days.

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The only way that you're going to be able to stay firm without being deceived, by the

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way, is to have a firm knowledge of the Word of God.

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I want to repeat that again.

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Deception is coming at such levels that the only way that you're going to know the truth

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is if you have the truth of God, which is all truth, by the way, all truth is God's truth.

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Satan has no truth.

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Satan has lies.

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Humans have lies.

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We have access to the truth.

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Satan has access to the truth, but truth is of God.

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The truth is always under attack because lies in the spirit realm of darkness hates truth,

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the doctrines of demons.

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So regarding what's going on with this interview with JD Vance, the vice president, I actually

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agree 100% with his answer.

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Now look, here's the truth about the matter.

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I'm going to give you my response.

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I'm responding to this interview.

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You'll have your response.

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Here's the question.

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Everyone's going to have their response to this interview.

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If you believe in it or not, you have your response.

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The response is global.

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The response is something that's going to increase, that people are going to craft, that

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people are going to base their response upon, and that is what is being revealed, what

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is being seen.

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And so we're, we're going to know that about it.

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It's not just Hollywood.

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You're seeing an increase of reports of UAPs, unidentified anomalies, UAPs, otherwise

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previously known as UFOs.

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They've moved on now to appearances of things that that cannot be explained.

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And the reason why they've changed it to UAP is because there's been so many variations

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of sworn testimony of what people saw from US military fighter pilots, Navy personnel,

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Air Force personnel to airline pilots, to captains of ships and people at sea, things

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that have been seen, and what is your answer?

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Let's just, let's just, let's just dive in, let's just play along together.

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The vice president is saying, yep, something's going on.

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We cannot explain, but he says because he's a Christian, he'd used them through a biblical

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worldview lens that they're not aliens, but that they are demonic manifestations.

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I personally believe that.

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I do not believe there are creatures from other planets.

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One of the reasons why, if we know that physics is true and it is true, and even theoretical

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physics, even in that realm of theoretical physics, there's certain laws that have to

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be obeyed, listen, and in theoretical physics, that also means that those certain laws are

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laws that can be manipulated or changed.

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You might say, Jack, I believe in aliens because they're from another world and another realm,

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and okay, that's fine, that's fine.

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You still have to explain, based upon, at least beginning based upon the present understanding

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of physics, physics is a profound law of truth, okay, so where do these beings, where

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do they come from?

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How long does it take them to get here?

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If they are, if they're from somewhere else and they're traveling here, we know that

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there are bodies of celestial entities, places that if someone's going to travel from

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there to here, we're talking light years.

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So light is a product of physics, of the natural realm of physics, light.

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It's the fastest thing we know of, the speed of light, that said, if these things are

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traveling at the speed of light, we would see them coming.

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We would be able to detect them, think of that for a moment.

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For example, I'll be off on this because my memory fails me, but the last time I checked,

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the sun is roughly 93 million miles from where I'm sitting, and if the sun, if it takes

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something like eight minutes, almost nine minutes for the light, that my eyes see and

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my skin feels on a sunny day, it takes about eight to nine minutes for that experience

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to reach me.

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I am, in other words, what I'm seeing and feeling, that light is already nine minutes old,

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okay, just by the virtue of the distance of the sun.

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So where are these creatures coming from if they're just physical aliens, run-of-the-mill,

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UFO, close encounters, Hollywood version?

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You see, these things appear and disappear.

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Sometimes they're tracked on radar, and sometimes they're not tracked on radar.

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Sometimes they are orbs or they're shapes that immediately enter into the realm of either

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the earth or the ocean, and there's no splash.

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There's no, none of that.

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So what's going on?

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My argument to you is simply this, that with the increased conversation now that's taking

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place since this interview came out, since Barack Obama, interviewed a couple of weeks

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ago on this.

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And Trump making comments about it, more and more congressional hearing, which is taking

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place by the way now.

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I believe still, maybe I'm wrong on this, but at the time when I sat down with Tim

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Burtchert in his office, Congressman Tim Burtchert from Tennessee, and we discussed this topic,

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he was the chairman, I don't know if he's still the chairman today, forgive my ignorance

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on that, but it's still a topic that you and I are paying for that's being investigated.

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And pilots have said it is an absolute danger to airspace and to travel.

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So you might see, we'll jack what's your explanation, deceiving spirits and doctrines

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of demons.

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I think we're seeing an increased manifestation in these things, which by the way, at the

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end of this podcast, I'm going to make sure that you have the opportunity to click the

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link that's in the description and you can go do a full blown teaching that I give on

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this, which is 100% more involved, Bible and science.

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I've got testimony, videos, you can watch that and learn more about it.

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And I encourage you to do that.

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I just want you to know that we all have to answer this response by the vice president.

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We all have to we all have to find our answer on this.

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So Jesus died on the cross in this world for the sins of all mankind.

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The Bible teaches like Titus 213 that we are waiting for the blessed hope that is the

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coming of the Lord to pick us up.

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The blessed hope and the glorious appearance of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ, great

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God and Savior.

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There's only one God, there's only one Savior and that is the Lord Jesus Christ.

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The Bible says this in Titus 213 among many other verses.

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God is one.

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The Bible says manifested God, the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit from Genesis

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to Revelation that is fundamental to Christianity.

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You don't believe that, then you can't be a Christian because it's one of the tenets

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of the Christian faith.

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That said, how did you hear that verse I read a moment ago while we wait for the blessed

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hope and the glorious appearing?

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There are those who are saying, in fact, I'm laughing right now because if any of you are

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viewing this and you live in Southern California and you've been to a Laker game at the crypto

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center, formerly the Staples Center, on one of the streets when you're trying to find

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your parking spot, on one of the streets is the church of Jesus Christ, UFO, alien something,

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church.

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It's pretty crazy because it's a church in Los Angeles, of course, and basically preaches

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there that Jesus was an alien.

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I'm just going to go out in a limb here and say as we get deeper into this topic in time,

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a month from now, two years from now, five years from now, if the Lord Terry's in coming,

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I believe you're going to hear more and more of the excuse that Jesus was an alien.

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I think you're going to hear more and more of that.

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Jesus was an alien.

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There are a lot of people that's going to answer a lot of things.

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Jesus was an alien.

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That's why he could do these remarkable acts of physics and even deny physics because he

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is like aliens, right?

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He could appear and disappear, didn't he do that after the resurrection?

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He appeared and disappeared suddenly instantly, didn't he walk on water before, yep, he did

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all that.

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Oh, because he's an alien.

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Well, you can either take that approach because you are going to have an answer to the UAP,

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the UFO, the alien encounter stuff, all of these people who isn't this interesting by

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the way, people who say that they have had alien encounters by far overwhelmingly, so most

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of them say that they were tampered with sexually regarding the reproductive system.

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They were probed, they were examined, they were tested in their reproduction areas.

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Why is that?

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That takes me back to Genesis chapter 6.

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Again, reference the link in the description below and go to that in-depth Bible study

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I gave.

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I got to tell you, I gave this Bible study and it made it to secular press.

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We made it into some news that said, I'm tracking with JD Vance here.

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I think it's biblical.

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I think it tracks with what Jesus and the prophets forewarned us about.

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Let's take a little bit, listen more to what JD Vance has to say.

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I think they're not at area 51.

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And where are they?

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Well, that's what he says.

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There's a great question.

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I need to go save.

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He says, you have to classify.

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So you think they're demons?

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Well, look, I think that celestial beings who fly around, who do weird things to people,

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I think that the desire to describe everything, celestial, everything is otherworldly, that

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describe it as aliens.

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I mean, every great world religion including Christianity, the one that I believe in has

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understood that there are weird things out there.

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And there are things that are very difficult to explain.

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And I naturally go, when I hear about sort of extra natural phenomenon, that's where I

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go to is the Christian understanding that there's a lot of good out there, but there's

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also some evil out there.

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And I think that one of the devil's great tricks is to convince people he never is.

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What I find excellent is you've got not only a sitting vice president.

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You might want to go back and replay that, make sure you heard it correctly.

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No where does he deny the existence of the reports?

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He says, we have these things happening and people are reporting these things happening.

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And my answer to those things is this, a biblical answer.

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That's what he's, I'm paraphrasing, but that's what he just said.

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And I want to challenge you, especially the believer that's on this podcast right now

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with me together, is we need to have answers for people in this area.

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This is going to become increasingly more and more an apologetic answer to the days in

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the age in which we live in.

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And I'm not being a prophet.

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I'm not saying this, say it's Jack.

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I'm saying Jesus and the apostles and the prophets of the Old Testament have already made

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this very clear that not only should we have an answer for everything that goes on

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and around us and for the hope that we have in Christ, but we as believers, if we really

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know the true and living God, then you and I should be able to converse with people

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who come to us with anything and everything.

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And when we don't know, we can simply and honestly say, I don't know the answer to that,

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but I'm going to research the Bible more in light of what you're saying to see what

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evidence may be in Scripture to answer your question.

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Well, if the increase of questions regarding alien activity is on the rise, then that makes

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it incumbent to the Christian to have the answer.

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I think Vice President Vance has the answer.

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It is reasonable, listen, it's reasonable.

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It scientifically tracks with the current understanding of the laws of science.

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And it also is in harmony with the Scriptures where the Bible warns us that fallen angels,

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not demons, fallen angels, they can appear.

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It looks like to be an angel of light.

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The Bible says the Bible says we better be careful how we treat strangers because many

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people unknowingly have entertained angels without being aware.

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That's in the book of Hebrews in the New Testament.

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The Bible says this.

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The Bible says this, that the person that we could be talking to, that stranger, maybe

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in line at the store or somebody maybe at the game or who knows where, could be an undercover

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angel for what reason?

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I don't know, but the Bible says it happens.

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The Bible says it's not uncommon.

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Isn't that wild?

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Now, here's what's funny, some of you are going, that's nuts, but you're the one that's

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also saying, I believe in aliens.

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And then I just said, watch out because you can be talking to a stranger and that stranger

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can be an angel says the Bible and then you go, that's nuts.

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One is a fact and the other one is your assumption.

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I want to take my assumptions and bring them into the realm of facts or at least in the

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vicinity of facts.

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Are there invisible things?

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The Bible says yes, there is.

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Are there deceiving demonic manifestations?

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The Bible says there is.

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Law enforcement entertains this issue.

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Psychiatrics entertains this issue.

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Psychology entertains this issue.

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Certainly, Christian clergy and Christians often have to entertain the reality of these

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things.

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It's real.

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The moment we begin to really begin to entertain the reality of it all, we get to uncomfortable

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and so we don't have an answer so we'll make fun of it trying to discredit it because

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it makes us feel better and all the while we walk away, a little bit uncomfortable on

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the inside because we've got this nagging thought that what I just talked about or heard

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or was being discussed could possibly be real.

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The world calls it paranormal.

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When they can't explain anything and they won't go to the Bible, they'll call it paranormal.

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Something outside of our realm that exists but we don't know quite what it is and so we'll

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call it paranormal.

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A long-sighted pair of means alongside the normal.

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Something on the other side, something in the other world, the spirit realm.

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It's not a joke.

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It's not a joke.

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Again, I'm a big fan of physics but here I am sitting at a table, maybe you are as well

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or maybe you're driving down the road listening to this and science tells you, physics tells

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you that this table, if we were to remove all of the space that's between the molecules

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that make up this table, this table would be maybe about two inches tall and about two

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inches wide.

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You say, Jack, you're insane.

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I'm actually regurgitating actual science, the space between molecules.

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This is what you hear right now being hit by my finger.

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Molecules are what make up things.

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Between molecules is space, actual gap and when you take something, when you take something

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and you suck as it were in a vacuum, all the space out from the actual molecules, it's

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shrunk down to like, honey, I shrunk the kids.

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Remember that?

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Cute little kid movie, but listen, in the realm of physics, that's actually a truth and

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that gets weird for us but I'm breathing right now and so are you and I'm breathing in

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things right now that my eyes cannot see because my eyes are limited in their scope of

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what it can see.

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My eyes, your eyes are based upon a frequency regarding the visible, visible versus invisible,

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the IR versus the visible spectrum of light, things that exist.

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And yet I'm breathing and I'm breathing in O2 molecules and carbon and nitrogen and the

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very elements of this atmosphere but you don't see it.

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I don't see it but a special device can see it.

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There's ways for us to measure those things but they're invisible to us.

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Since that is true in the physical realm, that there are things that exist that are invisible

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to the human eye, then it's no stretch that there are things that exist in the spiritual

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realm on the other side of this conversation, so to speak, that are more real than what

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this is right now between you and I because it is of the spirit realm.

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Friend of strangers to the sounds, the physical realm that you and I live in is not as real

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as the spiritual realm that exists.

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Listen, the spiritual realm existed before the physical realm was ever created.

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Genesis 1.1 says, in the beginning God created, that was not the beginning of all things.

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That was the beginning of this physical realm of creation.

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For example, God has existed eternally.

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There was no beginning with God because he's spirit.

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But the one true spirit, God invented, created, spoken to existence, the angelic realm.

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Think of that for a moment.

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The angelic realm, God created angels, the Bible says, in many places of the Bible.

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Angels are not equal to God.

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Angels are not rivals to God or somehow God-like in the sense of equal with God.

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They now have an eternal existence.

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They will exist forever, just like you will, by the way, and I will, not this body as

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it is.

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But there is, read John chapter 5, read John chapter 5, and you're going to read before

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you come to the end of that chapter that there's an eternal forever hell and there's an eternal

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forever heaven.

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And there are people that experience either one of those destinations, forever.

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You have to remember that.

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We can get so fixated on this physical realm that we think that this is all that there

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Now, listen, I wanted to bring this to your attention because a lot of people are talking

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about this right now.

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And again, I want you to go to the link in the description, click on that and dive into

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that Bible study.

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It's even though it was done on a Sunday, it's exhaustive.

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I could have gone a lot deeper if I had more time.

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But it is much more in depth than what this time together with you and I have had.

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But I think you'll find it interesting because I replay interviews and questioning coming

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from Congress in Washington, DC, as well as play video clips from military aircraft and

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eyewitness testimony.

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The point is this, this is one reporter's opinion.

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I believe there's going to be an increase in UAP UFO reports and experiences based on

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the Bible.

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I believe that the obsession that these things have with the reproductive system of humans

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is for a reason, Genesis chapter six.

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I believe that this increase will be part of a vast and massive form of deception that

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will be used by Satan to dupe the world.

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And I finally, I believe that the only way that you can steer clear of this fog of deception,

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this day's DAZE of deception is to know what the Bible teaches in totality, from cover

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to cover the word of God, the Bible.

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So it's pretty fascinating stuff.

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Imagine, y'all, I'll end with this.

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Is this investigation, or I should say over 2,000 cases are being investigated by our

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current Congress?

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As presidents and vice presidents, among so many others, are saying, it's not if we're

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seeing stuff, it's what is it that we're seeing?

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If this is what's going on, since this is what's going on, you got to get this answered

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for your own life, because if you don't, you're going to get deceived.

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And could it be, could it be, now I'm going out on the limb here.

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So I'll look, I'm enditing myself on this.

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So you don't have to text me or write me or post anything, I'm throwing myself under

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the bus here, just pretending, what if there was increasingly more unusual activity?

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What if this plays out, and all of a sudden, by the way, a whole lot of people are instantly

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gone.

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And somebody comes along and says, see, told you, this is all that UAP, UFO alien stuff

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going on.

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In fact, they helped us out.

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They got rid of all those crazy, stupid, weird Christians.

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They came to rescue us from these crazy, knuckle-dragging, Bible-believing Christians.

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And so we're going to leap now into our next step of evolution.

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We're not going to evolve into some superhuman, nope, our next evolution is going to happen

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in the second, just like those people were taken away, those pesky Christians are gone.

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Now the next step, obviously, if that can happen to Christians being removed, so we can

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move on with our next step of evolution.

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We are not going to become smarter superhumans.

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We're all going to become gods.

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That's the next step in evolution.

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We're going to become gods, say the aliens.

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They are going to make us gods.

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You say, well, Jack, that's nuts.

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Listen, there's people who believe this.

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There's people who, if I said this long enough, would believe it.

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I don't know if Hollywood believes it or not, but they sure make a lot of money off the

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movies that believe that kind of storyline.

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Have your Bible's white open, your face in the book, not Facebook, but face in the book.

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Plant your face in the Bible, read it more and more every day if it's a little bit,

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or if it's a lot.

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It's better than what you might be doing right now, which is nothing at all.

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Stop being deceived, get into God's truth, pray over what you read.

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Let God lead you and guide you, because friends, these are amazing days.

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I wouldn't miss what's going to happen next for anything.

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Wow, what a time.

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God bless you guys until next time.

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Get in the Word of God.

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Amen.

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