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Real life presents the Jack Kibs podcast with intention and boldness to proclaim

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Hey listen, does God always heal?

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What about healing and suffering?

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And what about thy will be done?

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listen. Now, open your hearts to what God's word has to say to you.

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Here is Jack Kibs.

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We're everybody.

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We're going to be talking about healing today.

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Healing is a big topic.

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Let's be honest.

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It's always been a big topic.

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Ever since Adam and Eve stumbled in the garden, healing has been an important issue.

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And it's certainly something that the pagan universe, the pagan religions of the

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world have always sought to do all kinds of incantations.

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There's been the North American Indian, which doctor type, Shaman, the wise man.

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I mean, it just goes by all kinds of, all kinds of players, all kinds of things

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whereby man seeks healing.

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And of course, we do.

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Because number one, we live in a fallen world and sickness and death is part of this fallen

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world, but glory be to the Lord Jesus Christ, right, who has come to take care of business.

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And first business was to die in the cross for our sins, always first things first.

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And then after that, the healing, not only of individuals, but of nations and of the

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world, ultimately, in his final and culminating act of a total redemption, which will transpire

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in eternity itself.

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That's going to be a glorious moment.

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The Bible calls it in the book of Revelation, I believe, or could be Peter.

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I'm sorry, I'm skipping a beat here, but it's called the day of God.

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We've heard about the day of the Lord, the day of the Lord Jesus Christ, the day of Christ.

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But the day of God is a reference to when all physical things, as we know it, end and

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eternity begins.

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It's one day, it's the day of God, and it's forever.

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So let's talk about healing.

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First of all, let me lay some groundwork to where I'm at.

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Yeah, I think that's a fair thing to say.

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I think everybody should issue their disclosure.

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Is that the right word?

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Disclaimer is, I believe in the Bible from cover to cover.

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I even believe in things in the Bible that I don't understand, but the Bible says it.

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And so because I don't understand it, doesn't make it true or false, I believe it because

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God says it.

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And then the second thing is I believe it because God repeats it in Scripture.

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It's not that He has to.

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God can say things once, and that is done in the Scriptures.

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But when you have the opportunity of reading the Bible and God just repeatedly does or

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says, says, says things, I need a healing of my tongue.

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Says things that just strengthens the argument.

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So first things first, let's just dive into this because the controversy of healing,

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number one should not be a controversy.

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Do you think God wrote about healing in the Bible to make it a controversy?

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The only controversy I see healing justified and being a controversy is when there's a

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Pharisees, unbelievers who hate the fact that God moves and God heals and God does a great

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work to the glory of Jesus because the Bible tells us that they were very jealous of him.

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So that's the only controversy that I think should exist regarding the issue of healing.

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When it comes to those of us who are watch believers, I need to find out what kind of believer

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are you? Because there are believers that follow Jesus as long as the gold dust is falling

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on their head. It's a sunny day. It's 75 degrees and the Vespa works.

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Then God is great and awesome and all-powerful and is amazing.

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And then there are those who, and I've known them, who have suffered unspeakable pain and

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injury from disease and cancer and things like that, who, by the way, in my life have been the

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most powerful Christians I have ever experienced. So I have a biblical base to what I'm going to

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talk about. At the same time, as of course the topic demands, there's a temptation for emotion to

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get involved because I'll mention one person and look, she's in heaven now, but for decades,

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a friend of ours, Terry Vella, at Cambridge Apple Coast to Mesa suffered unspeakable sufferings

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in pain. But if anyone's watching this podcast and they know they knew Terry Vella,

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they knew that she was one of, if not the most godly woman that they had ever met.

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No one prayed more, no one exhibited more joy, no one was thankful more.

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Terry has been an amazing example of how to suffer. But you might say, well, Jack, that's terrible.

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She didn't have enough faith because she should have been healed. I understand you saying that,

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but you need to know why you're saying that. And the reason why you're saying that, you believe

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that is because you have believed and you are believing in heresy. That is heretical doctrine.

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Does God heal? Yes. Are there times when God chooses not to heal? Yes. Is God sovereign? Yes.

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Does God do what we tell him to do? No. Prayer and even prayer for healing is to be done in faith,

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believing that God has the power to heal, thanking him for what he does. And all of it culminates in,

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are you ready for it? Are you ready? Really? Are you ready for it? Because a third grader knows this.

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Be it according to thy will, oh God, thy will be done. That's the number one thing where the

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faith community often struggles with. They won't even mention this part of thy will be done.

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So God does heal. God heals supernaturally. I know there's world renowned pastors who will say,

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Jack, you're wrong because I'm a world renowned pastor. And I know better. That's too bad. I know

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that God heals. And Jesus gets the glory. Let's jump into some of these and you can study them for

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your own edification. John chapter nine versus one through five. John chapter nine versus one

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through five. Jesus is of course ministering. Number one, always preaching the gospel,

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always preaching the gospel first and then ministering among the sick. And the Bible tells us

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that there was a man who was blind and Jesus healed him of him being blind. And of course the

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Pharisees are always following Jesus. Black robes, black tablets, black hearts, just wicked little

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spiritual nincompoops, always trying to find faults. And those people exist today by the way.

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But the Bible says that they hated Jesus for his miracles and for declaring that he was God.

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They wanted to stone him to death. So Jesus encounters this man and he opens his eyes. Jesus

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heals the man of blindness. And so the disciples and others have been conditioned to thank

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wow, regarding this guy that's blind. Who sinned that he may that he's blind? Is it him or is

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it his mom and dad? Notice this. Wow, the guy's blind. He must be a really bad center right or his

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parents are really messed up. And Jesus said he didn't sin nor did his parents sin to bring about

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this blindness. But this man is blind for the glory of God. I don't understand how God does that.

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But I know this. I know that God doesn't dwell on my time frame of things.

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Now Jesus enters this world that's broken and ravaged by sin and the results of sin.

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And he comes in and he brings the kingdom. Jesus in his earthly ministry was exposing the kingdom

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of God's power to the power of darkness and of wickedness and of hurt, pain, sin, sorrow and illness.

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And in this situation, Jesus says the man was born blind that for this moment the glory of God

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would be displayed. All right. Okay. Why do some people have down syndrome children? I don't know.

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But it's for the glory of God. If my left arm falls off, I don't understand that.

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But I know this. It's going to be for the glory of God. I don't understand that.

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Takes a lot of faith to understand that. You want to talk about faith?

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Takes a lot of faith to accept from God something that is not going your way.

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2nd Peter 2 versus 1 through 3. 2nd Peter 2 versus 1 through 3 tells us that in the last days,

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in fact, it was true back in Peter's day and it's going to become even more true in our day

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that there will be those who will be manipulated by Satan. They're going to do signs and wonders.

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And they're going to be involved in the ministry because the bottom line is that their hearts are greedy.

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They are greedy and they will manipulate people for greed. Notice by the way, notice this

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that many of the healing ministry people, number one, schedule their healings, which I find

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incredibly hilarious. Hey, make sure you join us in two months. We're going to be at the Ding Dong

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Auditorium and we're going to be healing service. Really? If God heals, it's going to be His sovereign

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choice, but you cannot schedule a revival. You can't schedule a salvation. You can't schedule a

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healing. This would rob God of his sovereignty, okay? Now, get to some of these other verses that

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you're already starting to get all sweaty about and upset about, but just know this.

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In the last days, greed is going to be the motive for people to preach bogus messages about

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Christ and poor sermons, but they're going to titillate and tantalize people by demonic activity.

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But the bottom line for the human is greed. I want to make money. Notice how many of these

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really super duper rich people that are in the ministry traffic around the healing circuit.

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But notice how they don't go where there's no money. You don't see them in the dust fields of

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Ethiopia or in Uganda or Nigeria. You don't see them in the impoverished regions of Vietnam. Do

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you? You want to know why God's not healing in those countries? Because there's no money in it

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for the greedy guy. I was being sarcastic. I know God heals in those terrible places, but the

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greedy guy, he doesn't want to go there because there's not enough money for him. So that's often

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the case said to say, I'm not going to mention a name. I don't want to get sued because he's got

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way more money than we do and he could sue the snot out of us. But I knew somebody who at this

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art church, the church that I've honored a pastor, his main sound and lighting director for his

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international tours went to art church and told me about the things that would go on and the things

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the prerequisite for scheduling where a healing would take place and money was always the first

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consideration. Here's one of my favorites of all time because it happened to me. Mark chapter 7

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verses 31 to 37, Mark 7, 31 to 37 is a situation there where this guy who's got some very good

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friends, bring him to Jesus. You kind of get the feeling the guy doesn't want to go anywhere

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and I get it. But they bring him to Jesus and Jesus takes the young man, I assume he's a young man,

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doesn't say. Jesus takes the man and takes him off to the side and away from the people.

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And Jesus does a series of actions that are quite remarkable because the man cannot speak,

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he can only make what the Bible says in the Greek language very strange sounds.

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He can't hear and he can't speak. Think about how embarrassing that is. I stutter terribly up

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until like about the age of 23 I think it was. So I understand the embarrassment of all of that.

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It was bad. I didn't stutter sometimes. I stuttered all the time. Very embarrassing. So you'd rather

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avoid people and you'd rather not say anything at all. So Jesus spits on his fingers. Jesus grabs

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this man's tongue. Okay, then Jesus puts his fingers in the man's ears, looks up to heaven,

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sighs. The word in Greek is he heaves his chest with grief and looking up to heaven says,

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be open, be loose. Maybe the man read his lips because Jesus spoke Arabic.

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And the Bible says that immediately the man could hear and he could speak plainly.

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And the Bible says Jesus told him, don't tell anybody I just did this miracle. Just keep this

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between us. And the man went, probably went, anything you say and then took off and was shouting

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and challenge telling everybody what had happened. And the Bible says the more the man was told not

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to say anything, the more he proclaimed it. The conclusion of the crowd was Jesus does all things well.

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Isn't that beautiful? I find that gorgeous, beautiful, thrilling. And he did that to me one night,

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on one night on Lido Island in Newport Beach, California, God touched my tongue and healed me

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in a second. It was awesome. He does all things well. Matthew 13 verses 57 and 58. The Bible tells us

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that Jesus could not do any miracles in his hometown of Nazareth because the people did not have

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faith in him. They didn't believe in him. And so he wanted to do miracles there, but the people

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didn't believe in him. I find that interesting. Jesus doesn't just roll into town and do anything

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against the will of people. Notice there are people that Jesus healed who had fears and doubts.

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Remember, he even said to many, only believe. So that is a very, very important thing, but notice

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that if God just rolls into town and performs healings, then what about his own town of Nazareth

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where he said he couldn't heal there because of unbelief. You need to process that. You need to

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think that you need to file that in your doctrine of healing. Again, I believe God heals.

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And I've seen God heal. I remember praying for a woman by the name of Judy.

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And she had breast cancer. I didn't know that. She was in the crowd. It was a Wednesday night.

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We were having an after-glow service and I just felt led by God to say this. And so I had to

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exercise this in faith because I didn't know. There's a couple thousand people sitting there. Quiet,

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we're just waiting upon the Lord. And I said, this might apply to somebody here if I'm hearing

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from God, but this thought just entered my head. And the Lord is desiring to heal you right now

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of breast cancer. And I made that statement and I found out on Sunday, the following Sunday

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that Judy came up to me crying at church. She's crying and she said, you won't believe what

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happened on Wednesday night. When you said what you said, I felt my right breast, it felt like

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there was a blowtorch of fire on my right breast. That's where I have the cancer. And I felt like I

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caught fire. And then I went to the doctor to my scheduled appointment on Tuesday and the cancer

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is completely gone. Pastor Jack, I was healed. Hey, that's awesome. And we gave God the glory.

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I believe that. I believe that. There's God always heal. It isn't always heal.

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But he does, according to his will. And it's always good.

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When you go to Israel, there's the pools of Bethesda in John chapter five versus one through

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eight. And at the pools of Bethesda, there's an amazing situation that takes place and you can

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read about it in detail. But the Jews believe that an angel or angels descended from heaven and

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stirred up the pool. And when the water began to move, the people, the, the, in, uh,

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and firmed the sick, those that are in need of healing, they would gather around the pool and

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wait and wait and wait and wait. And there was no pattern or, or, or consistency to this. But their

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belief was when the angel stirs up the water, the first guy in wins the prize. And the prize

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was healing. Really a weird thinking, right? But that's what they believed. And so, uh, Jesus walks

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by and he says to this guy that's crippled and he's got his little bed, his little homeless

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mat kind of a thing, right? Uh, Jesus says, um, do you want to be healed? And the guy's probably

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looking at Jesus. I could, what are you crazy? Of course I do. And Jesus tells him, uh, why, why

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don't you stand up? And he said, well, I can't get healed because I start making my way to the

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water when the angel moves the water. So I start making my way there and people cut in front of me.

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They take cuts. And I never make it in time. Can you give me to the water? And Jesus tells him,

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I want you to take up your bed and walk. And the man begins to stand up and he walks and of course

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the Pharisees are full minute the mouth freaking out. They're just all upset about this. And uh,

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he's healed. But here's a great, here's a great challenge that was pointed out to me.

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The Bible says there were a multitude gathered around the pool. But Jesus only healed one guy.

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How come? That was his will. I don't understand it. I don't know why he didn't walk around and

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clear the entire area out. By the way, those of you who believe that God always heals and has to

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heal because you say so, then why are you sitting down right now watching this podcast? Why aren't you

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at your local children's hospital raising kids from sickness? Why aren't you down at the, um,

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the old folks home praying over all those people and raising them up?

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Mark chapter 16 verses 15 through 18. You got to remember that when Jesus launched the kingdom

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of God, this is the order in which it goes. The gospel is preached and then people were healed

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or the gifts were manifested always in that order. The gospel is preached, people are saved

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and then signs are miracles follow the preaching of the gospel always in that order.

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By the way, that is still happening today in what we call the unknown parts of the world. Now

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obviously they're known because they're missionaries that are sent there. But um, we have missionaries

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in some countries. We have missionaries in many countries, but I wish it's told not too long ago

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by one of our missionaries. I'm not going to name the country because it's a very violent

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anti-Christian country. They kill Christians. They're like, it's nothing. But he prayed for a young

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Muslim man, 13 year old Muslim man, um, that had a absolute, um, mangled birth defect foot. His

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foot was completely like not fully formed at the end of his leg. And on a, on a, on a, on a busy

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street, they were sitting down having coffee at a cafe in this Muslim country. And the man's foot

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was healed in an instant. This is only 10, 12 months ago. So God does this stuff. He said, well,

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I prayed and then, you know, he didn't do it. Listen, the number one thing is the gospel first,

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and then the signs and miracles follow, okay? And the other thing is this, there's times when God,

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even as the kingdom is introduced, there's times when God uses suffering because it's the best thing

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for the time, best thing for the season. Now that takes a lot of faith and don't, don't write me

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and tell me that I don't know what I'm talking about because I suffered for years with something

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called Crohn's disease. You can look it up later. I asked God to heal me. I had people pray for me

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and it went on for years and he didn't. But I tell you what he did do. I had no idea

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that the day that it hit and it hit by the way like a lightning strike. That's how it comes. It

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just boom, it happened. It just so happened that it was our Monday night Bible studies desire to

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have an Easter Sunrise service. We had a Sunrise service and hundreds and hundreds of people came

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and it was an amazing day and we were all shocked. We couldn't believe it and God did an amazing

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thing. And then that night I got whacked by this thing. And now I look back years later,

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later decades later and I thank him for it. I praise him for it because I think God used it to

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keep my head on the ground because our Monday night group went from 50 people to 300 people

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on a Sunday Easter morning. I think God used what the enemy. Maybe the enemy wanted to do it.

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I don't know. I don't care. It worked. It gutted me so to speak. But keep that in mind that when

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the gospel goes out, it often goes out in power and you can expect God to move in power. And

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gifts of the Holy Spirit will be manifested in power according to the will of God.

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So also this, Philippians 310. This is great because during that time that I was suffering with

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Crohn's disease, this was the verse that became part of the fiber of my life. Paul in Philippians 310

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announces that I want to know the power of his resurrection and the fellowship of his

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sufferings, if I might be conformed into the image of Christ. Did you hear what Paul prayed in

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Philippians 310? Lord, give me the power and give me the sufferings. I want to have the power to

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preach and to proclaim and to do whatever you want me to do. But I also know that I cannot be

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a mature believer without suffering. So give me that too. That takes a huge amount of faith

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to receive from God what is best for you, even if it hurts. Paul knows this. Second Corinthians

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12 verses 9 through 11. Paul rejoices in the fact that I'd rather hang on to my infirmities and

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my sicknesses any day to have the power of God. I'd rather have God's strength exhibited in my life

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and be weak. All right. John 11 verses 3 and 4. John 11 verses 3 and 4.

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Remember Jesus is, it seems, I mean, I can't prove this exactly, but if Jesus had a best friend,

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it's not Peter, James or John, it appears. When you read the gospels, it seems that Jesus' best

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friend was Lazarus. Remember him? He had two sisters, Martha and Mary. Lazarus, their brother,

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just seemed to him and Jesus seemed to have a tight relationship. But remember Jesus was down

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at the Jordan River when news came to him that his good friend Lazarus was really sick, bad.

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And Jesus didn't go. He didn't go to heal him. It was asked of him, Lord, were you coming heal?

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And Jesus waited and waited. And the disciples said, are you going to go? Are we going to go?

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And he waited and he waited. And then the word came, Lazarus is dead.

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And Jesus turns into disciples and he says to them, I'm glad for your sake that

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that he is dead because you're not about to, I'm paraphrasing, you're not about to believe

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what's about to happen unless it happens this way. Jesus gets there and Lazarus is already

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entombed. He's already wrapped with grave cloths. He's placed in the tomb. He is dead.

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And Jesus waits extra long. He shows up and they're all everybody's crying and everybody's crying.

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And Jesus says, Lazarus come forth and Lazarus comes out of the ground and is resurrected from the

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dead. And it's beautiful because Lazarus is sickness. It says also was used for the glory of God.

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God was going to be honored in that. Say, Jack, how can God be honored in my 11 year old getting sick

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and having to go through all this suffering? I don't know, but I see it all the time.

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Why do some kids get healed and my kids don't? I don't know, but I see it all the time.

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Why do some kids die and are the kids recover? I don't know, but I see it all the time and I know

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this that every time people's eyes are focused on Jesus or people don't know Jesus, people hear

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about Jesus. It's remarkable. God waste nothing. I've never seen them waste a thing.

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Say, Jack, I don't believe in what you're saying. I believe that wherever the Christian goes,

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people should be healed. It's too bad Paul didn't know that because in 2 Timothy chapter 4,

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verse 20, Paul says that he has left trifamus at my lethus sick. So people take care of him. I

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got to go. I left him there sick at my lethus. I got to hit the road. I got ministry to do. Why

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didn't Paul just heal him? Why didn't Paul just snap his fingers in Jesus name? Get up.

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Trifamus, we've got a lot of work to do. Stop goofing around. I need you. Let's go. What's the deal?

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God is sovereign. God heals when he wants. We pray always for a healing and we pray believing.

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But we leave the outcome to God. I could go on and on about this, but I need to end. I'll leave

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you with this. When or how are you going to go to heaven? When are you going to go to heaven?

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You don't know. Neither do I. And you can't tell me when. Because you don't know. I don't know.

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How? Listen, when are you going to go to heaven as a believer? And how are you going to die?

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You have to die to go to heaven or the rapture interrupts death. How and why?

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Until the rapture happens, you got to get sick to go to heaven. Or you got to get hit by a truck

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or fall off a ladder. You got to have a heart attack. Right? Billy Graham died of sickness. Right?

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Jayverna McGee died of cancer. Wow. I was in Oxford not too long ago. And I literally stood

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on the spot where William Tyndale was martyred to death. You got to die sign. How are you going to

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get to heaven? We pray for the sick. We pray believing sometimes God heals. Sometimes he does. And

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he's sovereign. He's got all power. But don't walk around thinking that you can snap your finger

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and heal people. You know, you don't believe it because if you believed it, you would make sure

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that everybody that you saw that was sick or hurting would be healed in a moment. But you know,

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that doesn't happen. And the reason why it doesn't because God is sovereign. We leave the

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results with God. We pray believing. We trust Him. We pray according to the Word of God. And we

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pray thankful. And we pray that I will be done. And Jesus is the one who epitomizes that

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ultimately. Lord, if this cup can be passed from me, if you can remove this cup,

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that's the cup of the salvation of man's redemption. If this cup can pass from me, let it pass.

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Nevertheless, I will be done. That's the prayer that we are to pray. But by all means,

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friends, be praying, anointing them with oil and praying for God to heal and expect God to heal.

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And if he doesn't heal in that second, in that hour, and in the week, or in the next six months,

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let God be God. Will you still walk with Him when the days are hard and difficult?

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Or you have cancer? You know, my sister would not accept the gospel. She had her new age,

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crystal crystals. She had her pyramids and all of her weird new age junk until she got cancer.

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And none of her new age isms could help. So then she asked me to share the Lord with her again.

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And I did. She accepted Christ and she suffered for seven years. And she got close, close, close,

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closer. Every year she got closer to Jesus until she went home to see him.

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My mom was a Catholic, not born again. Through her suffering with cancer, accepted Christ for

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a week before she died, she went to heaven. My dad accepted Christ and seven days later died and

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went to heaven. Cancer in my family has been the greatest evangelist. It couldn't do what Billy

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Graham did. It couldn't do what Greg Laurie did. It couldn't do what Luis Palau did. It couldn't do

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what I did. Cancer, God used as an evangelist to save the stubborn. Think about it.

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