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Real Life presents the Jack Hibbs Podcast with intention and boldness to proclaim

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truth, equip the saints and impact our culture.

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Everybody, one of the podcasts, grab your pen and paper, get your Bible open,

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we're gonna dive in because you're gonna be finding out that Jesus Christ is not an

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A God.

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You can get the outlines of this podcast by going to jackhibbs.com slash podcast.

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Today, if this podcast lifts you up and encourages you to live a more fulfilled life in Christ,

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then make sure you leave us one of those five star ratings.

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To us, that's like saying amen or yes, then that rating will encourage others to listen.

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Now, open your hearts to what God's word has to say to you.

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Here is Jack Hibbs.

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Everybody, welcome to our podcast and I just want to remind you that we have this little

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banner that we fly under and it's this, it's time to live out what you believe in.

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It's time for real life and that's what we're all about is real life.

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We know it's not that we believe.

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We know that the type of ministry that we're involved in in various areas, including

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this podcast, is something that I would say is authentic and organic.

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We're gonna start looking at the authority, the person of Jesus Christ, the number one

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name used in the world in cussing is Jesus.

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These screams Muhammad are Buddha when they drop a brick on their toe, they scream Jesus.

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We're gonna be talking about the one who is the most loved individual on the planet and

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at the same time the most hated.

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Nothing's changed in these last 2,000 years since he's come.

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There's the great love for him among believers and there's the absolute unexplainable in some

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areas, disdain for him.

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For people who hate Jesus who don't even believe in Jesus, isn't that amazing?

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I want to submit to you that that is a spiritual dynamic and issue that should be evidence

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to everyone.

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What's with the name of Jesus?

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Why is his name?

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Why is Jesus, his name is Jesus, his origin is earthly from Nazareth, right, Jesus of

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Nazareth, but his eternal state, his eternal nature is that he is God.

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And I'm deliberately dropping that bomb on you right now if you're not familiar with

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this theological fact because we're gonna be proving that to you in this and other soon

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to follow podcast regarding the person, the authority, the nature of who Jesus Christ

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is.

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We go through this together, let me give you a little bit background as to what I have

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in my hand right here.

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This is not from Wikipedia, this is not from some Christian dot com thing.

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This is literally actually something that was given to me and then I added to it.

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Here's the reason why many of you oldies like me might remember a guy by the name of Walter

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Martin, Dr. Professor extraordinaire, Dr. Walter Martin in Southern California.

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He was just a piece of iconic Bible instruction teaching.

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I had a chance to sit under his Sunday afternoon teachings at the Newport Mesa Christian

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Fellowship on Sunday afternoons, Lisa and I would go and Dr. Walter Martin would give

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an afternoon lecture.

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He'd go for a couple of hours, it was spellbinding and I love this guy because he did not want

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to compete with any churches and back in those days, every church had a morning service

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and every church had a Sunday evening service and so he put his service right in the middle

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of the day and because he was very sensitive to that reality and anything you can get

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by Walter Martin is awesome.

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Read it.

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One of the great books that you should have on your shelf now is The Kingdom of the Colts

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by Dr. Walter Martin, The Kingdom of the Colts.

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Well, listen, he walked into the headquarters of the Jehovah witnesses in Brooklyn, New York.

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That's where they're based and he walked in there and he asked to speak to someone in charge,

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there and he went with the intent to witness and so they sent down to him a guy by the name

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of William sentner or sentner and William sentner came down to meet Walter Martin and he introduced

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himself, I am William sentner and I'm head over the Department of Correspondence to the Jehovah

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Witnesses, The Watchtower Society, how can I help you?

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And Dr. Martin said, you guys are God's witnesses, right?

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That's right, sir, we are and he said, I'd like to ask you some questions as to who am I speaking

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about? I have these Bible verses and I want you to answer me, who are we talking about?

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And he said, let's do it. That's fantastic. That's what I employed, that's what I'm employed to do.

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And the journey began and you say, Jack, how do you know? Because what I'm about to share with you,

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Dr. Walter Martin and William sentner, Bill sentner, went through this on stage at Calvary

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Chapel, Costa Mesa, I've got a guess in the early 80s and Lisa and I were there in person,

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we saw it live. And at that very time, I was working for, at that time was called American

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Edwards Laboratory, as a division of American Hospital Supply Corporation, massive global

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corporation, but otherwise known today as Baxter Healthcare or Edwards Life Sciences. I worked

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for Edwards Life Sciences and in one of our co-workers was a very, very enthusiastic Jehovah

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Witness. And so when I heard this presentation, I was so blown away that after I went right up

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to Bill sentner and I said, can I have what you guys did tonight? And he said, absolutely.

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Back in those days, he said, give me your address and I'll mail it to you. So it came by snail mail

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and I started using it on my friend at work. He was not only stumped, but he went to his

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Jehovah Witnesses overseers. They were stumped that my friend came back at work and said,

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I can't talk to you anymore about this. And what is the this that we could not talk about

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anymore? And that was this, Jesus Christ and his deity. He said, we can talk about anything

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else, but we cannot talk about his deity because I showed what you gave me to my leadership at the

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watchtower. And I've been advised not to speak to you anymore about the deity of Jesus.

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Boom. That tells you everything about what we're going to start doing.

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I want all of you to take notes. I want you to get pen and paper out or get your laptop up or

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if it's your tablet, your iPad, whatever it is. I want you to write these things down.

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Everyone who shows up at your door, knocking, riding up on bicycles,

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wearing a tie or carrying a briefcase, I don't care what cult they're from,

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they differ in a lot of areas, but there's a few things they agree on.

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And that to the point of death, they'll die for it. And it's this number one on the list

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that the cults all agree is Jesus Christ cannot be God. Number one,

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number one, Jesus Christ cannot be God in all of the cults. He is less than the God who he is

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in the Bible. If you're a Mormon right now, you're saying, well, we believe he's God. Of course,

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you do. And you believe you can become a God too. And there are millions and millions of Mormon

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gods. You've got Adam as God in Mormonism. In fact, according to Mormonism, Adam God is the God

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of this earth, planet earth. The God that the Mormon talks about is Adam. I don't know if you

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knew guys know that or not. You had to check that out. Now your Mormon friends are not going to

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overtly admit that. You got to search it in Mormon doctrine and teaching. But what does that do?

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It diminishes from Jesus. Why? Because the Bible says from Genesis to Revelation, there's only one

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God. Not a thousand, not a million. And you can't become a God. But do keep that in mind that the first

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false doctrine we hear about in the Bible is none other than from Satan himself who says, oh, come

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on, Eve. Take a bite because God knows, you know, God's been pretty nasty. If you think

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a baby's been holding out on you because he knows that the day of you eat, the day that you eat

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of this fruit, you'll be like him. But you want to be like God. Don't you want to be a God?

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And Eve fell for it. Anybody who knocks in your door and says you can become a God, you need to

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get some snake repellent or put some garlic on your door. I'm joking. You're going to need to use

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what we're going to start going through and be that any, listen, any as Walter Martin points out

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in Kingdom of the Colts, even if it's a Christian cult, you see a Christian cult. What is that? Yes,

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some apologists consider the Seventh-day Adventist as being a Christian cult. They believe in the blood of

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Christ. They believe in the cross. They believe in His resurrection. But they have wiggled laws and

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legalism into your salvation and your maintenance of your salvation. And one of them is the Sabbath

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keeping which they completely fail to read the book of Colossians on that. So I've pretty much

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offended a lot of people except the Jews or Muslims yet, but we'll probably get to that in a moment.

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So get your paper ready. I've given you enough time. The question is who is Jesus or is Jesus

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God that could be at the top of your page? Or is Jesus Christ truly Lord and Savior?

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That's the question. Who is Jesus Christ? The one of the Bible. Number one. And by the way,

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this is going to be an order. And I hope you enjoy this. Number one, here's where we start.

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And rig your Bible by the way. I would love for you to have your Bible right now. If not,

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go ahead and take these notes and then go rig your Bible. What do you mean rig?

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I only have to remember me, Jack. I only have to remember one verse to do this to anybody who

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knocks on my door. It's Isaiah 4812. That's all I need to remember. Isaiah 4812. Write it down. Because

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at Isaiah 4812, I'm going to write down the next reference. You see? I only need to remember one

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reference point. Isaiah 4812. And then the rest of it all flows. And so here we go.

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Yeah. Hi. Hey, nice to meet you. I'm here from the Cult of XYZ. And we'd like to invite you

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to come and join us at one of our readings or one of our gatherings or one of our discussions.

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Oh, well, that's interesting. Thanks for coming to my door. First of all, I'm a Christian.

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Oh, we're Christians too. Oh, well, let me ask you a question. Let me turn to Isaiah 4812. And I

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want to ask you, who are we talking about? Okay, great. And most people who knock on your door

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from a cult will have a Bible. By the way, Jovo Witnesses that might be turning in right now or

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somebody has forwarded this to you because you are a JW. Even in your Johann Grieber, listen,

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Johann Grieber version of the new king of the Old King James Bible, listen to me carefully,

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your version of the Johann Grieber Old King James Bible that the Jovo Witnesses work out of,

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which is also titled the New World Translation, that was published or produced by Johann Grieber.

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And he was a Greek scholar who failed to identify or believe that Jesus Christ is God. So what

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he did was he systematically attacked the deity of Jesus. And it just so happens that the Jovo

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Witnesses and their founding used his Bible. It's otherwise known as the New World Translation.

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But you can go ahead and use it. It's okay. Open it up because this is New World Translation

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proof. Okay. This works. Isaiah 4812. Question at my doorstep, sir. Who am I talking about?

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Listen to me, O Jacob referenced to Israel and Israel my called. I am he, capital H. I am the first,

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I am the last. Capital F first, capital L last, I am the first and I am the last. Who am I talking

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about? And the Jovo Witness, the Mormon, the cultist is going to say, that's God. And I say,

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well, can we be more specific? You know, God has a name in the Bible. We all agree on this. And

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that is Jehovah. Oh, yes, Jehovah. In fact, yeah, yeah. I'm a Jehovah Witness. I'm a Jehovah Witness.

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I met your door and yeah, great. So we all agree that this is God that Isaiah is referring to.

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Well, let's turn on over now because I wrote it down and Isaiah 4812. I wrote down Isaiah 446.

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So we turn over to Isaiah 446. Thus says the Lord, the King of Israel and his Redeemer,

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that is Israel's Redeemer, the Lord of hosts, by the way, it's all caps on Lord, which is the word

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Yah. Why a H? That is God's name. God is not his name. Yah is the name of the God of the Bible.

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We say Yahweh, but Yahweh is an extended mention of his actual name Yah.

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Hallelujah. Yah. Hallelujah is to praise Yah. Praise

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Salvation. His name actually, his name is Salvation. Yah is root. That's Salvation. His name

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is Salvation. Did you know that? It's awesome. Isaiah 446. Thus says the Lord, the King of Israel

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and his Redeemer, the Lord of hosts, I am the first and I am the last. Besides me, there is no God.

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Who are we talking about? In that faithful, diligent worker at your front door will say,

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Jehovah God, no doubt about it. Hey, I agree with you right on. We're tracking. And they're

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going to be very proud of themselves. You're going to feel you're going to be feeling good too

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about yourself because they're stepping right into a truth trap here. So all right, very good.

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Let's go to Isaiah 41 verse 4. Isaiah 41 verse 4. Who has performed and done it, calling the

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generations from the beginning? I the Lord, Yah. And the first and I am with the last.

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Whoo. There's an interesting little insert there in the scripture, an announcement. I want to read

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it again. Isaiah 41 4. Who has performed it and done it, calling the generations from the beginning?

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I, the Lord, I, the salvation, I, Yah, am the first and with the last I am He.

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Interesting verbiage, right? It's powerful in English. It's stronger in the Hebrew language.

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But it doesn't matter who we're talking about here. Yahweh, we're talking about Jehovah. It's

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obvious. His name is even in the verse. Touchdown. Okay, right on. We're tracking. Let's turn

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to Isaiah 43 verse 10. By the way, the Isaiah 43 verse 10 is the theme verse for the Jehovah

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Witnesses, for the Watchtower Society. You are my witnesses, says Yah. And my servant whom I have

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chosen that you may know and believe and understand that I am He before me. There was no God formed

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nor shall there be after me. That's it. That is a definitive declaration of the nature of God.

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It doesn't mean that God was born and that God is going to die, that He was not and then He is

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and He is not. It means that speaking in human terms before anything was, I was there and when

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all else is dissolved and gone, I'm still there. He's speaking to us mortals in eternal terms.

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Point being, I am the Lord. Yah, I don't have a beginning and I don't have an ending. There's

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nobody before me. There's not going to be anybody after me. If I had an ending, there's nobody

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going to come after me. That's what he is announcing. We all agree on this dialogue at the doorstep.

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We're tracking. We're spot on. All right. Do we agree that the Bible is the word of God?

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And the cults will say to you, absolutely. So long as it's correctly interpreted, the Mormons will

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say, Ah, of course, we agree with you on that one. But we all agree on this that when the names

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of God are employed, it's talking about one God. Now the Mormons again might say, yeah,

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we're talking about Adam God, but they're thinking about one God. The Jehovah Witnesses will be

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thinking about one God and the Christian is certainly thinking about one God. And by the way, if you

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are a Muslim or a Jew, you need to be listening to this because even though the Muslim does not

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believe in the prophets of the Bible, they do claim to believe in one God.

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If you're Jewish right now, you certainly, I'm reading your scriptures up until this moment.

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And you would have to say, I gotcha. Okay, we're tracking with you Gentile, Christian. Okay.

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Let's take a deep breath and dive in for just a moment into the New Testament. I know for some

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of you, you can't go there, but your rabbi is nowhere around. Be brave. Be strong.

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Go to the book of Revelation chapter 1 verse 8 written by a Jew, by the way. And listen to what

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is recorded, quoting God speaking. I am the Alpha and the Omega. That's interesting because even though

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it's in Greek, it is a Hebrew citation of the one true God. The beginning and the end says the Lord.

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Who is? Who was? Who is to come? The Almighty. Revelation 1 8, question at the doorstep.

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Ask the guy, ask the gal, ask the people, who am I talking about? And they're going to say Jehovah God.

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And you're going to say, spot on. I agree. Revelation 4 8, still written by a Jew, Revelation 4 8.

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In the four living creatures, each having six wings, we're full of eyes around and within. And

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they do not rest day or night, saying holy, holy, holy Lord God Almighty. Who was? Who is? Who is to

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come? Who am I talking about? We're all tracking. It's God. No doubt. Revelation 1 verse 11, Revelation 11.

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I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, and what you see right in the book and send it

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to the seven churches. Book of Revelation chapter 1 verse 11, the point being, how many first and

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last do we have in the Bible? One. How many Alpha and Omega's do we have in the Bible? One.

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Revelation 21 verse 6, Revelation 21 verse 6. Again, the Jew was speaking to us. And he said to me,

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it's done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end. So John is recording what he's

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hearing from whoever this individual is. This individual is saying, it's done. I am the Alpha and

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the Omega. Who is that? Gotta be honest. You can only have one. Whoever is, he's the beginning

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and the end. He holds time. In eternity, he possesses time. He's eternal, but he holds time

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between as it were, the span of his hand. That's this is the span of your hand. That's my broken

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finger. Here's my, this one's busted as you can see. So we'll do a accurate measurement between,

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between this finger and this finger is known as the span of the hand in the Bible. And God says,

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I hold everything material in the span of my hand. Who is that?

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Revelation 22 13, this one of my favorite verses, my goodness, everybody, listen up. Revelation 22 13,

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here, this is going to be a, this is going to be something. I'll tell you why right now.

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Some of you have some modern day translations based upon various publishers. In other words,

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you might have a 10-day Bible. You might have a New World Translation Bible. You might have a

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Zondervin Bible. You might have a Moody Bible. You may have a Bible by some other publisher.

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You're going to want to do some homework right now in the area of King James, New King James,

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ESV, and IV to mention a few regarding this upcoming verse. Why? Because some of the newer

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translations or publishers, which some of these companies are not even owned by Christians anymore,

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have chosen in recent decades to use some of the other later Greek manuscripts

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to literally remove this verse from the book of Revelation. Some of your Bibles, what I'm about to

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read, will not even contain the verse I'm about to give you. If you don't think there's a war

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on truth, you should know it now. By the way, the Dead Sea Scrolls, ancient writings, antiquity,

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the older you can go back, the more firm the truth is. The oldest is the most reliable.

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So watch this. Revelation 22 13. Who am I talking about? I am the Alpha and the Megas. Check

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we already established that. It's Jovo and there can only be one. True. The beginning and the end,

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same thing, the first and the last. Revelation 22 13 says, I am the Alpha and the Omega,

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the beginning and the end, the first and the last. Who am I talking about?

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Hey guys, listen, we're at the 26-minute mark. I'm looking at the producers here. Do I keep going?

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Do we say, pick us up next time? Because other sin, five, four, five more minutes on this.

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Question, person who knocked on my door? Who am I talking about? There's an overwhelming agreement

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that the individual knocking on your door will say, we're talking about God Almighty, the

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Yahweh, God, Jehovah God, because there's only one Alpha and Omega, there's only one beginning

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and the end, there's only one first and the last. And I'm going to say, I agree with you.

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There's last closing moments. Hang on tight. Here we go. Revelation 117, Revelation chapter 1, verse 17.

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And when I saw him, John said, I fell at his feet as dead. John just passed out, fell flat on his face.

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But he said, but he laid his right hand on me, saying to me, do not be afraid, I am the first

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and I am the last. Who is that? John said, I saw him and I went face down, like a dead man.

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He came to me and he touched me and said, don't be afraid. I am the first capital F and I am the

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last capital L. Who is this? You see, you have to stay consistent with this title because there's

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only one. There's not two. Revelation 1, verse 18, I am he who lives and was dead and behold,

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I'm alive forevermore. Amen. We're going to end right here. We'll pick it up next time

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together because let me tell you, we got a lot. Whoever the Alpha and the Omega is and the Old Testament,

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you can only have one. Whoever the first and the last is and the Old Testament, you can only have one.

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Whoever the one who is who was who is who is to come, you can only have one. Whoever the Almighty is,

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you can only have one. Whoever the Lord is, yeah, you can only have one. Are you tracking? You're

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tracking. I know you're tracking. You can only have one. Whoever this one is died and rose again from

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the dead. Revelation chapter 1, verses 17 and 18, say so. You say, well, it's a coincidence. Here's

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world end. Revelation chapter 2, verse 8. And do the angel of the church at Smyrna, right? Smyrna is

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in Turkey. It's an archaeological site today, but Smyrna still exists. These things says the first

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and the last who was dead and came to life. Oh my gosh. Listen, we're going to pick this up next

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time. I want you to grab everybody, you know, seriously. First of all, of course, you know what?

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You can really help us out. We don't need your money. I mean, we're not going to refuse it either.

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We're not stupid. If you want to send money to help us get this unbigger and more platforms and

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that helps, but where I'm not asking, get everybody you can. Get a small group together. Let's go

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through this together. Work this out where you guys can link in or connect or whatever. Share it

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because this, listen, by the time we come to the end of this, you can save someone's eternal destination.

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If you're a Mormon, tune in. If you are a Jova witness, oh my gosh, you've, you've got to ride

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this wave all the way to the shore. You got to tune in. Hey, listen, even if you hate everything

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I'm talking about, I'm going to ask you how come? I don't care if you hate me to get in line,

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but why would you hate the Bible that you claim to believe it?

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And so I'm asking you to share this. I'm asking you to subscribe, like it, pass it along.

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You can share this with more people. You can always make sure. In fact, you'll hear from the young

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lady in the clothes out what you can do. But this is life changing stuff we're talking about right

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here right now. So that's why we say it's time for you and I to live out what we believe in.

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It's time for real life. He's the one, only one. There's not another. There'll never be another.

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He is the Lord God eternal Yahweh who came to earth, took on skin. We'll see this in the next

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few podcast, died and rose again from the dead. The first and the last died. The alpha and the

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omega died. The one who was who is who is to come died. The almighty died and rose again. And he

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