WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:05.840 Real life presents the Jack Hibbs podcast with intention and boldness to proclaim 2 00:00:05.840 --> 00:00:09.320 truth, equip the saints and impact our culture. 3 00:00:09.320 --> 00:00:13.960 Headline news, Northern California Church facing investigation for ballot 4 00:00:13.960 --> 00:00:18.880 collection efforts. A church has cocked a scheme to receive ballots from its 5 00:00:18.880 --> 00:00:24.240 congregants and they must be investigated. Oh my goodness, guess what? Church in 6 00:00:24.240 --> 00:00:28.680 Northern California, a church in Southern California, and churches up and down 7 00:00:28.680 --> 00:00:33.440 the state of California obeyed the law and did ballot collection at their 8 00:00:33.440 --> 00:00:39.440 churches and overwhelmingly brought in ballots and votes from a biblical world 9 00:00:39.440 --> 00:00:43.640 view perspective. Stay tuned. We're going to be talking to a pastor who got 10 00:00:43.640 --> 00:00:48.400 excited, got educated, took what he learned back home to his church in Northern 11 00:00:48.400 --> 00:00:53.680 California, made a world of difference and the woke world and the progressive 12 00:00:53.680 --> 00:00:58.360 ain't liking it. They passed the law, we used it, and now they don't want it any 13 00:00:58.360 --> 00:01:01.400 more. Stay tuned. 14 00:01:02.240 --> 00:01:08.600 You can get the outlines of this podcast by going to Jackhibbs.com slash podcast. 15 00:01:08.600 --> 00:01:13.960 Today, if this podcast lifts you up and encourages you to live a more fulfilled 16 00:01:13.960 --> 00:01:18.840 life in Christ, then make sure you leave us one of those five star ratings. To us, 17 00:01:18.840 --> 00:01:24.360 that's like saying, amen or yes, then that rating will encourage others to listen. 18 00:01:24.360 --> 00:01:29.760 Now, open your hearts to what God's word has to say to you. Here is Jackhibbs. 19 00:01:29.760 --> 00:01:37.960 All right, you guys welcome to this episode of the Jackhibbs podcast and we are 20 00:01:37.960 --> 00:01:45.160 just marching on through into so many different topics and we've had so many 21 00:01:45.160 --> 00:01:50.440 different guests and we're very happy regarding the numbers and all of you 22 00:01:50.440 --> 00:01:56.600 participating. Thank you so much. We always want to encourage you to share the 23 00:01:56.600 --> 00:02:02.680 podcast with others. You can give us, you know, a thumbs up. You can you can make 24 00:02:02.680 --> 00:02:07.960 sure that you give us a rating. It helps and the algorithm of things. It moves 25 00:02:07.960 --> 00:02:13.880 up the podcast by those who respond that they like it. Give us a five star. 26 00:02:13.880 --> 00:02:19.640 Give us a thumbs up. Let us know. But if you've been with us, even for a short period of time, 27 00:02:19.640 --> 00:02:24.440 you know that we cover all kinds of ground on all kinds of territory, all of it regarding 28 00:02:24.440 --> 00:02:32.360 a biblical worldview. It could be something as as challenging as false doctrine that is being 29 00:02:32.360 --> 00:02:39.080 propagated out in among the church today. We will take that on to election issues. What is 30 00:02:39.080 --> 00:02:45.480 biblical? Can a Christian vote should a Christian vote and including things that what does the 31 00:02:45.480 --> 00:02:50.120 Bible say about pain taxes? For example, should we should we be subject to the authorities that 32 00:02:50.120 --> 00:02:55.480 are over us to what degree? Of course, the Bible has all the answers for this and the reason why 33 00:02:55.480 --> 00:03:02.200 we do this podcast is to not only get truth out there, but is to counter the falsehoods that 34 00:03:02.200 --> 00:03:10.680 are out there that will stand in opposition to what is the right thing to do. And so we've 35 00:03:10.680 --> 00:03:16.520 got a gentleman who I, as far as I know, I've never met him before. We've not rehearsed at all 36 00:03:17.800 --> 00:03:25.880 together. But I can tell you right now, I'm very, very proud of him. And what we are looking at right 37 00:03:25.880 --> 00:03:34.600 now is a podcast that may be more encouraging for me than for anybody else. And we are now 38 00:03:35.480 --> 00:03:43.000 bringing in Pastor Greg Phelps from Calvary Chapel Red Bluff. So Pastor Greg, first of all, 39 00:03:43.000 --> 00:03:48.440 it's awesome to have you on. And here's the reason why it's awesome to have you on is because 40 00:03:49.400 --> 00:03:58.040 I was sent a headline from the San Francisco Gate and from their publication. And it appears 41 00:03:58.040 --> 00:04:08.200 Pastor Greg that you're in trouble because you informed your church, you encouraged your church, 42 00:04:08.840 --> 00:04:16.280 you educated your church, you discipled your church to actually make a difference in your community 43 00:04:17.160 --> 00:04:25.000 by being involved in the recent voting. So Pastor Greg, tell us how did that come about? 44 00:04:25.720 --> 00:04:32.920 And tell us what you're so guilty of according to some of these things that are being said. And I'll 45 00:04:32.920 --> 00:04:38.680 read them later, but how did you get involved? What got you involved in the process? 46 00:04:39.240 --> 00:04:43.800 Well, you know, really, for us, it started on you. We visited down there in Southern California, 47 00:04:43.800 --> 00:04:50.040 you graciously invited pastors. And, you know, I brought a team down and we really felt like 48 00:04:50.040 --> 00:04:55.960 the Lord was encouraging us that, you know, we need to be a light in our community. We have a small 49 00:04:55.960 --> 00:05:01.720 community. And we felt that, you know, we want to be an influence, not just, you know, to be 50 00:05:01.720 --> 00:05:07.160 pusiders, so to speak, but making disciples who go out and make other disciples. And so our 51 00:05:07.160 --> 00:05:12.360 influence and our community really just began, you know, following your footsteps and your 52 00:05:12.360 --> 00:05:18.680 encouragement and seeing that there was a need. So this year, you know, we developed an impact 53 00:05:18.680 --> 00:05:24.680 team, our CCRP impact team and praise God for them. They keep the issues in the forefront for us. 54 00:05:25.400 --> 00:05:30.440 And, you know, and they're extremely important because we don't have the time to look at everything. 55 00:05:30.440 --> 00:05:35.960 Right. But they brought those issues to us. And, you know, we would educate our body on the 56 00:05:36.040 --> 00:05:41.720 legislature type stuff that need to be addressed and contact our simply men and 57 00:05:42.280 --> 00:05:47.240 and pray and all those things. And so we talk about those issues daily. And so as election 58 00:05:47.240 --> 00:05:52.920 approached, you know, we felt that our team wanted to be an influence in our community again with, 59 00:05:54.520 --> 00:05:59.960 you know, the voting and making sure that we had a biblical perspective on how to vote. And we 60 00:05:59.960 --> 00:06:04.600 talked about the voter guy. And I think that's really worthy. Some of the issues might have 61 00:06:04.600 --> 00:06:10.120 began because we put out a voter guide. And in our community, it's, you know, small community, 62 00:06:10.120 --> 00:06:15.480 we've never had a voter guide for our local elections. And so you just, unless you know somebody, 63 00:06:15.480 --> 00:06:21.160 it's a popular opinion, you don't know where they stand. And oftentimes, if no such as a personal 64 00:06:21.160 --> 00:06:26.680 relationship there. And so we did the voter guide. And, you know, I think that riled some, 65 00:06:26.680 --> 00:06:32.760 some feathers for some people. But we did the ballot collection. And where we just encouraged 66 00:06:32.760 --> 00:06:37.560 our body that if you know, for whatever reason, they couldn't bring or couldn't deliver their own, 67 00:06:37.560 --> 00:06:41.800 their own ballot. We'd be happy to do that for them. And we followed your guys as guidance. 68 00:06:42.920 --> 00:06:46.760 You know, our team did a great job of scheduling it on on a Sunday. And 69 00:06:47.880 --> 00:06:52.920 and they had a bag that they locked and they, you know, they had it secure, secured on their 70 00:06:52.920 --> 00:06:57.720 being. And then they took it to the elections official the next day. They just followed, 71 00:06:58.360 --> 00:07:03.960 the tea, everything that needed to be followed. So that's where it kind of began. Yeah. 72 00:07:03.960 --> 00:07:09.560 Pastor Greg, real quick, when when when your ballots were delivered to the registrar's office, 73 00:07:09.560 --> 00:07:12.920 did the registrar's office refuse your ballots? Did they not take them? 74 00:07:14.520 --> 00:07:19.400 They know that they initially the first lot that we took the first Monday there. 75 00:07:20.520 --> 00:07:26.920 They told us, instructed our team to put them in the box outside. They didn't receive them. 76 00:07:26.920 --> 00:07:32.760 They told us to put them in the box. Really? So interesting. But so you did that because they told 77 00:07:32.760 --> 00:07:38.760 you to do that. Yes, that's correct. And then where they're following visits, did you guys have 78 00:07:38.760 --> 00:07:47.400 other drop-offs? Yeah, we had we had a total of four visits. And the same thing, they they 79 00:07:47.400 --> 00:07:52.200 told you go go and put it over there in that box. Yeah, I'm not certain on the communication at 80 00:07:52.200 --> 00:07:55.640 that point. I think after the first one, they might have just gone to the box. Yeah. Yeah. 81 00:07:56.760 --> 00:08:03.160 Yes. So for most of you who do not reside in California, what Pastor Greg is talking about is 82 00:08:03.880 --> 00:08:11.400 in California, in about, I think it was 2015, 2016, it might be off a little bit. In the year 83 00:08:11.400 --> 00:08:21.480 2015, 2016, California, the Democrat Party in California passed a law where ballot collection 84 00:08:23.160 --> 00:08:31.400 or ballot harvesting they called it would be the new law in California voter conduct. And again, 85 00:08:31.400 --> 00:08:41.240 it was a Democrat brainchild of our state legislature here in California that you can designate 86 00:08:41.880 --> 00:08:51.560 anyone to take your ballot to the ballot box and or to the county that you reside in their 87 00:08:52.280 --> 00:08:59.880 office of registrar that's the official location where all ballots go. Every county has one. And 88 00:09:00.280 --> 00:09:07.960 and and so when we heard about this way back when at the very genesis of the of that when that bad 89 00:09:07.960 --> 00:09:17.240 law was passed, let's be honest, in 249 years, the United States voted a certain way. And that is 90 00:09:17.240 --> 00:09:22.520 by standard ballot, you you feel in the name or you check the box and you drop it in and then 91 00:09:22.520 --> 00:09:27.800 and then it's over and then it's counted and Thomas Jefferson becomes president. We were able 92 00:09:27.800 --> 00:09:37.480 to do that for two centuries, maybe even close to two and a half centuries. But what California did 93 00:09:37.480 --> 00:09:45.480 is that California wanted to seal election policy and election conduct by their rules. You got 94 00:09:45.480 --> 00:09:57.240 to remember Pastor Greg and I sit in a state that is 100% dominated by a Democrat control. They have 95 00:09:57.240 --> 00:10:02.520 a super majority and that's just the way that it is. They don't even need to put things out to 96 00:10:02.520 --> 00:10:08.280 the citizen any longer to vote for. They can do things by what is known as fiat. They can have an 97 00:10:08.280 --> 00:10:14.520 idea. They can talk it among themselves and they can vote on it and bring it in to power. It's 98 00:10:15.480 --> 00:10:21.960 it's not a republic when you do that. It is more of a democracy. The thing is in the United 99 00:10:21.960 --> 00:10:26.920 States, we do not live in a democracy. We live in a constitutional republic. But California 100 00:10:28.200 --> 00:10:34.440 has been really the harbinger has been the tip of the spear of the socialistic 101 00:10:35.160 --> 00:10:42.840 democracy movement. That's why when you see CNN or NBC or MSNBC or when you speak to a Democrat, 102 00:10:42.840 --> 00:10:49.640 are you here Kamala Harris talk or Barack Obama? You will never, never will you hear them say 103 00:10:49.640 --> 00:10:54.200 constitutional republic? They don't believe in the constitution. They're then the constitutions in 104 00:10:54.200 --> 00:11:01.960 the way. They want democracy. They say democracy and the thing is our founding fathers made it very 105 00:11:01.960 --> 00:11:06.840 clear that we must never have a democracy. They said so. I'm quoting them. We must never have a 106 00:11:06.840 --> 00:11:13.080 democracy but we must maintain and keep a constitutional republic. They're diametrically opposed 107 00:11:13.080 --> 00:11:21.240 folks. They're not the same thing. United States is the most magnificent governing experiment 108 00:11:21.240 --> 00:11:29.800 ever known to man. That is we would be ruled by the people. We the people would have our government, 109 00:11:29.800 --> 00:11:35.640 we voted to have our governing document be the constitution and people have to obey it. 110 00:11:35.640 --> 00:11:41.160 Listen, getting back I got a I got a bragg on on on Pastor Greg for all of you guys. 111 00:11:43.080 --> 00:11:52.440 Let me read from the the San Francisco Gate their digital media published on November 9th, 112 00:11:53.400 --> 00:12:01.000 2024 headline Northern California Church facing investigation for ballot collection effort. 113 00:12:01.000 --> 00:12:08.520 Notice the headline. Ballot collection effort is legalized by the Democrat party. It is the law 114 00:12:08.520 --> 00:12:17.000 in California but they don't like is that an influential Northern California church did it. 115 00:12:18.280 --> 00:12:25.160 You see that everybody? Watch this quote. I don't think it's legal close quote that counties 116 00:12:25.160 --> 00:12:31.960 election official told the San Francisco Gate after the San Francisco Gate inquired about the 117 00:12:31.960 --> 00:12:39.080 church's effort. Let me continue everybody. A prominent community church in Northern California. 118 00:12:39.080 --> 00:12:45.480 Pastor Greg, how dare you be a prominent church in Northern California for doing the Lord's work 119 00:12:45.480 --> 00:12:52.360 and being a light up there. God bless you guys is under scrutiny for orchestrating a non-official 120 00:12:53.000 --> 00:12:59.560 ballot drop box scheme in the month leading up to November 5th presidential election 121 00:13:00.520 --> 00:13:06.360 after the San Francisco Gate presented evidence. Oh, so now they're the detectives. I see. 122 00:13:07.160 --> 00:13:14.200 Wow. So the investigative group the San Francisco Gate presented evidence of the church's 123 00:13:14.200 --> 00:13:22.200 ballot gathering activities to how do you say your county Tahima? Tahima counties register 124 00:13:22.200 --> 00:13:28.760 of voters. Officials said that they would refer the matter to the district attorney's office. Let 125 00:13:28.760 --> 00:13:38.840 me keep going. Hang on here. Calvary Chapel's Red Bluff ballot collection effort to ask it was 126 00:13:39.640 --> 00:13:47.240 sanctioned by county officials. The official said we were unaware of the church's actions 127 00:13:47.240 --> 00:13:54.680 until the San Francisco Gate inquired. He said over the phone after reviewing the church's 128 00:13:54.680 --> 00:14:02.760 website. He reported quote, I don't think this is legal and would forward it to the DA's office 129 00:14:02.760 --> 00:14:12.360 for review. This is awesome. Watch this everybody. He cited a 2020 memo from the California 130 00:14:12.360 --> 00:14:21.160 Secretary of State which warns against unauthorized unofficial ballot drop boxes. Of course, 131 00:14:21.880 --> 00:14:28.760 nobody wants unofficial drop boxes. There were a ton of those in LA County that were unofficial. 132 00:14:28.760 --> 00:14:33.560 They were they were not properly conducted. They were just dropped off out of a pickup truck 133 00:14:34.680 --> 00:14:41.960 off the side of the road. Nobody's for that. Friends listen, note the dialogue here or I should say 134 00:14:41.960 --> 00:14:50.120 the monologue. They are painting Pastor Greg in his church as having committed a scheme. They 135 00:14:51.240 --> 00:14:57.320 said that it doesn't look legal to us. You know what we're doing? We're citing a memo. Ladies and 136 00:14:57.320 --> 00:15:06.920 gentlemen, a memo is not law. A memo is a memo and they happen every day. And listen, we agree. 137 00:15:08.120 --> 00:15:15.960 We want to Pastor Greg and I. We are all about upholding the law. We in fact have obeyed the ballot 138 00:15:15.960 --> 00:15:26.040 harvesting laws perfectly to the T. Why are they upset? Because what happened in Tahima County 139 00:15:26.680 --> 00:15:34.040 at Calvary Chapel Redbluff wasn't supposed to happen. They counted on Calvary Chapel Chino Hills, 140 00:15:34.040 --> 00:15:40.440 Calvary Chapel San Jose, Calvary Chapel Redbluff, Calvary Chapel of the Harbor. They weren't all 141 00:15:40.440 --> 00:15:45.560 Calvary Chapples. I'm just talking about the ones that I know of. Never getting involved in the 142 00:15:45.560 --> 00:15:52.200 process of informing their congregation regarding their civic duty through a biblical worldview. 143 00:15:52.200 --> 00:15:58.120 They never thought that Pastor Greg would be smart enough to make disciples at his church 144 00:15:58.760 --> 00:16:07.480 that would make a difference in every area of life from raising children to keeping their kids safe, 145 00:16:08.280 --> 00:16:14.360 to making sure the police department is loved and supported and their school board is prayed for. 146 00:16:14.920 --> 00:16:20.200 They never thought that Pastor Greg would make disciples enough that they would say, 147 00:16:20.840 --> 00:16:27.240 hey, I live in a republic. I got a ballot. I'm a Christian. I'm going to sanctify my ballot. I'm 148 00:16:27.240 --> 00:16:33.320 going to vote according to my biblical worldview. And on top of it, thank you, California, for making 149 00:16:33.320 --> 00:16:41.400 it legal for me to bring my ballot to the church and have it put into a box or a bag that is then 150 00:16:41.400 --> 00:16:47.240 taken to the county. Thank you for making it so easy. Pastor Greg, we did the same thing for three 151 00:16:47.240 --> 00:16:55.080 weeks and took in 20,000 ballots. And we made that public. We always make it public. And they 152 00:16:55.080 --> 00:17:00.920 stopped bothering us because they found out that we refused to be bothered by this. The truth is, 153 00:17:00.920 --> 00:17:07.640 you and I, Pastor Greg, we beat them at their own law because, listen, Democrats didn't step up 154 00:17:07.640 --> 00:17:12.440 and get involved in ballot collection like churches did. They created a very bad law, 155 00:17:13.400 --> 00:17:19.960 and we wound up obeying it because it's law, but we did it really good. I like to put it this way, 156 00:17:19.960 --> 00:17:26.600 Pastor Greg, because I did say this to Pastor Mike and San Jose, is that we took a bad law 157 00:17:27.320 --> 00:17:33.800 and we circumcised it and made it good. And so you're in a lot of trouble. You're actually 158 00:17:33.800 --> 00:17:40.600 in no trouble at all, but more on that in a moment. And so it's just that county chapel told 159 00:17:40.600 --> 00:17:46.600 its parishioners, that would be you, Pastor, that their ballots would be protected 160 00:17:46.600 --> 00:17:51.560 under strict custody of rules. In other words, their ballots aren't going to be blown around 161 00:17:51.560 --> 00:17:58.280 down the street or getting rained on or are strapped to a donkey's back. They were actually going 162 00:17:58.280 --> 00:18:09.400 to be well taken care of. And that the rules would be kept. And the ballots would be delivered to 163 00:18:09.480 --> 00:18:18.120 the county facility. The real impact, it says here that real impacts latest training resource 164 00:18:18.120 --> 00:18:24.920 documents says on their website that was updated this summer, it outlines specific guidelines. 165 00:18:24.920 --> 00:18:30.120 By the way, we had all those guidelines approved and reviewed by the state of California, 166 00:18:30.920 --> 00:18:37.560 ballot collecting at churches. It provides a template for churches to use in flyers 167 00:18:37.560 --> 00:18:44.440 advertising ballot collection. Service and suggestions secured storage boxes available 168 00:18:44.440 --> 00:18:51.320 for purchase online, presumably to store the ballots until they're delivered to election 169 00:18:51.320 --> 00:19:01.240 offices. Notably, the guidance makes no mention of the potential illegalities of these activities. 170 00:19:01.240 --> 00:19:08.920 In other words, the law that was written is very, very open-ended. And I'm almost done. 171 00:19:10.600 --> 00:19:17.560 It says that the church was encouraged to use discernment and to be diligent about their vote 172 00:19:18.120 --> 00:19:22.680 and that they should know what's going on in their community, they should get involved, 173 00:19:22.680 --> 00:19:29.720 and that the church should mobilize congregants to stand for their biblical worldview position. 174 00:19:29.800 --> 00:19:36.280 You did everything right. And Greg, before I read the laws, there's anything you want to add at 175 00:19:36.280 --> 00:19:42.840 this point. Anything you want to throw in there? No, I think you nailed it. The accusations are 176 00:19:42.840 --> 00:19:50.760 are just false. They really have no, you know, no legal opinion behind them. It's more of an opinion 177 00:19:50.760 --> 00:19:58.920 article than it is anything else. And so yeah, you nailed it. Yeah, so everybody listen up carefully 178 00:19:58.920 --> 00:20:03.480 to this. In light, in fact, let's pretend for a moment, let's back up. 179 00:20:05.640 --> 00:20:09.480 The truth is, and I know many of you are going to be shocked when you hear this. 180 00:20:11.240 --> 00:20:16.840 The truth is, and I'm going to be off, somebody that's behind those cameras can maybe let me know 181 00:20:16.840 --> 00:20:23.400 if they know, county-wise, California counties. The Republican Party, i.e. Donald Trump, 182 00:20:23.480 --> 00:20:31.640 in 2024 election that just passed recently, not only did Donald Trump retain the counties in 183 00:20:31.640 --> 00:20:41.400 California that he had in 2020 going red, but Trump took an additional, there may be more, 184 00:20:41.400 --> 00:20:49.880 but an additional 10 counties went from deep blue to bright red in California. And this is an 185 00:20:49.880 --> 00:20:57.320 ongoing trend. And George Barna, the expert polling and research group, Barna Group, 186 00:20:58.120 --> 00:21:08.280 as well as Fox News contributor and show host Steve Hilton, his research group is showing the 187 00:21:08.280 --> 00:21:15.080 same exact thing. California is turning red. And one of the things that is fantastic is I'm holding 188 00:21:15.160 --> 00:21:25.080 here the guidelines by the state of California. So keep in mind what you just heard from Pastor Greg 189 00:21:26.280 --> 00:21:33.400 and what's being discussed. And why is the Democrat Party concerned? Because I guarantee you this, 190 00:21:33.400 --> 00:21:40.360 if California would not have turned so red in this last election, Pastor Greg and Pastor Jack 191 00:21:40.360 --> 00:21:47.400 and Pastor Mike and Pastor Joe would not have gotten a visit from either the media or the Democrat 192 00:21:47.400 --> 00:21:51.720 party or phone calls from attorneys. You want to know why? Because if they would have swept the 193 00:21:51.720 --> 00:21:56.200 state, they would have left us alone because their system would be working. The thing is we took 194 00:21:56.200 --> 00:22:02.440 their system and we made it work perfect. So check this out. Here it is. California election code 195 00:22:03.240 --> 00:22:12.200 section 3011 of the elections codes mandate that individuals delivering harvested ballots must 196 00:22:12.200 --> 00:22:21.640 provide their name, signature and relationship to the voter of the notification to the voter on 197 00:22:22.200 --> 00:22:34.360 the identification envelope election code 3011 subsection A9 section 3017 of the election 198 00:22:34.360 --> 00:22:42.600 code further states and mandates that those individuals delivering the harvested ballots on behalf 199 00:22:42.680 --> 00:22:51.240 of the registered voter do so within 72 hours of recipient or receiving of those closed 200 00:22:51.240 --> 00:23:00.440 and sealed ballots at the at the poll on or before election day, whichever is shorter. 201 00:23:00.600 --> 00:23:13.880 Now, I add this. The real impact recommends that two people or more deliver the ballots to the 202 00:23:13.880 --> 00:23:22.040 election office for accountability purposes securing the vote and making sure when dropping off. 203 00:23:22.120 --> 00:23:28.360 We also suggest taking pictures or videos documenting your delivery. 204 00:23:30.040 --> 00:23:37.160 Pastor Greg, we took a bad law. We made it even better because our rules that we imposed upon 205 00:23:37.160 --> 00:23:46.680 ourselves, you and I, are not only legal. They're above question. And that's what we employed. 206 00:23:47.480 --> 00:23:54.120 And so you got a call from the DA from Tahima County. They wanted to meet with you. You and I 207 00:23:54.120 --> 00:24:00.840 were on the phone. I told you don't meet with them. Don't talk to any media because they will, 208 00:24:00.840 --> 00:24:07.480 they will seek to do this. Pastor Greg, they will seek to get you ensnared in a conversation. 209 00:24:07.480 --> 00:24:15.160 They will never print what you say. In fact, the woke media is in cahoots with the woke 210 00:24:15.160 --> 00:24:20.600 government and they will work together to try to catch you. This is just like sand ballad and 211 00:24:20.600 --> 00:24:25.960 tabiah in the book of Nehemiah trying to get Nehemiah to come down from the wall and have a meeting. 212 00:24:26.840 --> 00:24:32.600 And I told you right out of the book of Nehemiah. I just simply said, Pastor Greg, don't meet with 213 00:24:32.600 --> 00:24:37.800 them, but hang on. I'm going to get some constitutional attorneys on the phone and send them your 214 00:24:37.800 --> 00:24:44.680 way because this is this is a great example. You guys, your church got all excited. You guys got 215 00:24:45.240 --> 00:24:49.880 you guys got up and going. Your congregates got pumped up because they got involved in the 216 00:24:49.880 --> 00:24:56.280 American process, which God has given us to be Christian janitors over janitors, not janitors. 217 00:24:57.880 --> 00:25:05.080 Stuart's over. Stuart's the stewards of an opportunity. The stewards of freedom. And you guys did 218 00:25:05.080 --> 00:25:10.040 it. You're all excited. And boy, does the enemy want to intimidate you guys and shut you down 219 00:25:10.040 --> 00:25:15.720 because that just cannot happen. So they're trying to pick you off. And we're not going to let that 220 00:25:15.720 --> 00:25:21.720 happen. So what is the general feel of both yourself and your church at this time? 221 00:25:22.440 --> 00:25:27.880 Well, you know, again, we're a small community. I'm a young pastor. I'm not young at age, but 222 00:25:27.880 --> 00:25:33.080 I've only been a senior pastor for five years. And you know, I've never faced the intimidation that 223 00:25:33.080 --> 00:25:37.800 can come from from the left and in this kind of way. And you know, we're fortunate. It is a very 224 00:25:37.800 --> 00:25:42.600 conservative community. I think there's a small group of people that are stirring things up. 225 00:25:42.600 --> 00:25:47.960 Very small. And our congregation, they're just faithful. They love the Lord and they want 226 00:25:47.960 --> 00:25:54.200 they want him to be an influence in their schools and in the life of the people around us. And so 227 00:25:54.200 --> 00:25:59.240 that, you know, not not many of them probably have read the article. It's a liberal article. 228 00:25:59.240 --> 00:26:03.720 You know, San Francisco gate. We don't we don't read that. You know, it's not something we 229 00:26:03.720 --> 00:26:09.000 we entertain. So I think for most part, our congregation is doesn't really know that this 230 00:26:09.000 --> 00:26:16.280 has really happened at this point. Again, our D.A. He's a wonderful guy, conservative. I believe 231 00:26:16.280 --> 00:26:20.120 he'll do the right thing. I think he just wants to investigate to find out, you know, what, 232 00:26:20.120 --> 00:26:25.160 what actually happened. And my hope that is is that, you know, you'll just come to clarity that 233 00:26:25.240 --> 00:26:31.960 he'll realize, man, they got no leg to stand on. It'll be a glory to the Lord because 234 00:26:32.520 --> 00:26:38.760 you'll report that and nobody will have a leg to stand on. So that's our hope. For me, I'm just, 235 00:26:40.280 --> 00:26:46.760 yeah, I'm going to say just for me, just just navigating. And oftentimes as I teach, we're in 236 00:26:46.760 --> 00:26:52.840 John chapter 15 and 16 right now. And I unfortunately, I think the Lord has to use 237 00:26:53.480 --> 00:26:58.600 real life experiences for me to learn, you know, when Jesus there in 15 said, hey, they're 238 00:26:58.600 --> 00:27:01.640 going to hate you. The world to hate you. You're not of the world. They're going to hate you. 239 00:27:02.280 --> 00:27:07.880 And that is so true. And it's a first hand experience. The Lord has given me to grow my faith. 240 00:27:07.880 --> 00:27:11.320 And so it just have to, you know, remind myself of biting him, 241 00:27:12.280 --> 00:27:18.440 a bite that he's present with me. He's got it all figured out. And again, we have operated above, 242 00:27:18.440 --> 00:27:20.520 you know, what I feel like, just incomplete. 243 00:27:20.520 --> 00:27:24.520 Oh, you have. It's it, forget about it. And trying to make sure that we did the right thing. 244 00:27:24.520 --> 00:27:28.840 Yeah. I mean, with all due respect, forget about your feelings. You did do the right thing. And 245 00:27:28.840 --> 00:27:35.560 this is what, listen, Pastor Greg, you know the scripture says that the righteous can be as bold as 246 00:27:35.560 --> 00:27:43.320 lions. And what's awesome about that is how do we stand in the lion's den or how do we endure 247 00:27:43.320 --> 00:27:48.520 in the furnace? How does that happen? Well, when we're on, when we're on God's side, 248 00:27:49.560 --> 00:27:55.080 in fact, let me make this clear, we do not ask God to be on our side. We make sure, 249 00:27:55.080 --> 00:28:00.680 biblically, that we are on God's side. When we're on God's side, we don't have to defend ourselves. 250 00:28:00.680 --> 00:28:07.880 God will defend us. And how that works where we are in America is that God has given us the 251 00:28:07.880 --> 00:28:12.360 rule of law. Now, Pastor Greg, there may be somebody who's watching this saying things like this, 252 00:28:12.360 --> 00:28:18.200 although it's kind of evaporated much in California, but there used to be those who would say, 253 00:28:18.200 --> 00:28:24.600 hey, you guys, you two guys should submit to Romans 13, man, you guys should submit to the law. 254 00:28:25.560 --> 00:28:31.240 God, you should submit to the rulers that are over you. Number one, we do submit to the rulers 255 00:28:31.240 --> 00:28:38.440 who are over us. We submit to the letter to the word of Romans chapter 13 that the authorities that 256 00:28:38.440 --> 00:28:43.240 are in power have been placed there by God. But friends, we need to be careful when we read our 257 00:28:43.240 --> 00:28:48.600 Bible that we don't read it in a sloppy way. Because Romans 13 says that God has placed the 258 00:28:48.600 --> 00:28:54.520 authorities that are in power to rule over us that for those who do evil, they should be punished 259 00:28:54.520 --> 00:28:59.400 and they should be afraid that the authorities that have been put into power have been put into 260 00:28:59.400 --> 00:29:06.920 power by God to do good, the word is righteousness. So the question is this, we went through this with 261 00:29:06.920 --> 00:29:15.240 Gavin Newsom. At what point was it right for me to disobey Gavin Newsom during COVID? Well, 262 00:29:15.320 --> 00:29:22.680 that was when Gavin Newsom relinquished his authority and began to do evil. He was the elected 263 00:29:22.680 --> 00:29:28.840 official and I submitted to him. But when he went outside and did evil, evil being this, 264 00:29:30.280 --> 00:29:38.120 marijuana shops can be open, bars can be open, strip clubs can be open, but churches must be shut 265 00:29:38.120 --> 00:29:44.120 down. That's when he lost his authority. The mantle of Gavin Newsom's authority, by the way, 266 00:29:44.120 --> 00:29:50.840 he never regained it. God took it from him. He disobeyed God. He attacked the Church of God in 267 00:29:50.840 --> 00:29:58.120 California and his power has diminished greatly. Having said that, everybody, Pastor Greg and I are 268 00:29:58.120 --> 00:30:04.600 all about Romans 13. But when the elected officials begin to sin against God, that's where the church 269 00:30:04.600 --> 00:30:10.440 is the conscience of the state and the church says this is wrong. And so what happened was, 270 00:30:11.240 --> 00:30:19.080 again, they made that dumb law about ballot harvesting. It's the law. So we did the law, but 271 00:30:20.120 --> 00:30:29.400 we even did it better than they did. And it's now a constant problem for the leftist, the progressive 272 00:30:29.400 --> 00:30:36.600 in California. I predict, Pastor Greg, I predict that they're going to probably wind up overturning 273 00:30:36.680 --> 00:30:45.880 their own law if it keeps going this bad for them. But one of our attorneys is quite, we have 274 00:30:45.880 --> 00:30:52.040 great attorneys, but one of them is Hermie Dillon. She's brilliant. And she has reviewed all of our 275 00:30:52.040 --> 00:30:58.760 operating procedures. Some of them, she even edited and made sure that things were verb, the 276 00:30:58.760 --> 00:31:04.680 verbiage was correct. That's what we exported to you and all other churches in California. 277 00:31:05.320 --> 00:31:09.960 And so the beauty about this, Pastor Greg, is here's what we want to see happen. 278 00:31:11.560 --> 00:31:18.520 We want your district attorney to review this. He needs to do that. We want him to do that. 279 00:31:20.360 --> 00:31:26.360 We need him to look at every bit of your operating procedures regarding ballot collection. 280 00:31:27.000 --> 00:31:33.160 He needs to know this. We want him to know this. Isn't this beautiful? We want him to come on in 281 00:31:33.160 --> 00:31:37.640 and interview you and talk to you and ask, can you just show me what these people are talking about? 282 00:31:37.640 --> 00:31:42.360 And you can do now that the election's over. You can do like a little reenactment or you can just 283 00:31:42.360 --> 00:31:52.680 show the videos of what you guys did and let him write a memo. Let his memo come out and say not 284 00:31:52.680 --> 00:32:04.360 only did Calvary Chapel Redbluff obey the law but they did it with integrity and every community 285 00:32:04.360 --> 00:32:09.480 should do it this way. That's what we want and that's what your DA should do. 286 00:32:11.000 --> 00:32:18.600 Why? Because it will shut the mouth, Pastor Greg, it will shut the mouth of those who would seek to 287 00:32:18.600 --> 00:32:26.520 intimidate and silence the church back into a hole where she's insignificant. Listen to this 288 00:32:26.520 --> 00:32:30.920 and then I'm going to want you to respond. Second Corinthians chapter 10 verse 4, 289 00:32:30.920 --> 00:32:35.960 for the weapons of our warfare are not carnal but mighty in God for pulling down strongholds, 290 00:32:36.680 --> 00:32:43.480 casting down arguments and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God 291 00:32:43.560 --> 00:32:48.440 bringing every thought into captivity to the obedience of Christ. I'm going to pause right there. 292 00:32:49.640 --> 00:32:54.760 Every Christian knows this portion of Scripture. We can quote it, we've memorized it, we've taught on 293 00:32:54.760 --> 00:33:06.120 it. No problem. We've rarely considered verse 6 and being ready to punish all disobedience when 294 00:33:06.120 --> 00:33:14.200 your obedience is fulfilled. Wow, what does that mean? It means that Pastor Greg is doing 295 00:33:14.200 --> 00:33:21.320 exactly the right thing. He's going to stand, we're going to stand, we're going to be in talk to 296 00:33:22.040 --> 00:33:26.840 but we're going to ask, now that you've seen what we've done, I am requiring of you, 297 00:33:26.840 --> 00:33:34.360 District Attorney, please make this be known. That is punishing disobedience. You say jack, 298 00:33:34.360 --> 00:33:40.680 are you sure you didn't read Second Chronicles? No, that's Second Corinthians. The Christian, 299 00:33:40.680 --> 00:33:46.760 how do we punish disobedience in America? We don't shoot guns, we don't throw rocks, we don't burn 300 00:33:46.760 --> 00:33:56.360 down buildings. We vote. We vote. That's how we thank God, right? Thank God for this Republic of 301 00:33:57.080 --> 00:34:03.480 us. We don't have to have violence to change our government. We vote and you vote bad people out 302 00:34:03.480 --> 00:34:08.120 by putting good people in. That's how we do it and that's how the Christian does it. 303 00:34:09.320 --> 00:34:17.880 And Pastor, I am so proud of you. I am so delighted that you were encouraged. Thank you, 304 00:34:17.880 --> 00:34:23.000 by the way. I think you mentioned you came to our invite in Huntington Beach. I take it, right? 305 00:34:23.000 --> 00:34:29.080 Yeah, we did. And you heard from Constitutional attorneys. You heard from pastors. You heard from 306 00:34:29.080 --> 00:34:34.840 others that brought you encouragement like Eric Mataxis and Bill Federer and historians. 307 00:34:34.840 --> 00:34:42.040 You heard from Kelly Shacklford who is the most winning, if I remember right, the most winning 308 00:34:42.040 --> 00:34:50.120 Constitutional attorney at the US Supreme Court from a biblical worldview. He's awesome. 309 00:34:50.760 --> 00:34:54.440 And you got involved. You got motivated and you did the right thing. 310 00:34:55.320 --> 00:35:02.680 And I just love it. So is the body feeling okay? Is the church doing good? What's their move right now? 311 00:35:03.400 --> 00:35:08.600 Yeah, again, I think at this point, the majority that do know, they're just, they're excited. 312 00:35:08.600 --> 00:35:13.320 You know, the Lord is going to take care of the issue and they're not concerned. They know 313 00:35:13.320 --> 00:35:19.160 they know what we did and it was aboveborn. And like you said, we followed the law. We followed. 314 00:35:19.240 --> 00:35:23.800 Your guys is guidance and and you know, I think they're going to rejoice for those 315 00:35:25.000 --> 00:35:27.800 who don't know are going to be rejoicing even more when they sell. Yeah. 316 00:35:29.320 --> 00:35:40.360 Yeah, yeah, it's amazing. You are the watchman in Ezekiel. Listen, Isaiah 62, Isaiah 62, 317 00:35:41.320 --> 00:35:49.560 Ezekiel 3 and Ezekiel 33. The Bible tells us that God has said his watchman on the wall. 318 00:35:52.040 --> 00:35:55.560 And a watchman was to peruse. They were to be scanned in the horizon. 319 00:35:56.760 --> 00:36:00.120 And the Bible says that if the watchman sees evil approaching, 320 00:36:01.880 --> 00:36:04.440 the watchman's to blow the trumpet of warning to the people. 321 00:36:05.240 --> 00:36:11.000 If he blows the trumpet of warning, they do not heed the warning and they're attacked. 322 00:36:11.000 --> 00:36:15.320 God says, I will not hold that watchman accountable for their loss. 323 00:36:15.320 --> 00:36:23.480 But if he doesn't blow the trumpet and the people are destroyed because he failed to warn them, 324 00:36:23.480 --> 00:36:32.840 God says, I will require from you their blood. And I'm grateful. I'm thankful for you. You are 325 00:36:32.920 --> 00:36:39.000 the watchman on the wall in Red Bluff, California. You may be a small community. 326 00:36:40.440 --> 00:36:49.000 But I praise God that they went on to say that you are an influential, a church of prominence, 327 00:36:49.880 --> 00:36:59.320 that you wanted your people. He wanted his people to be equipped and to stand for righteousness 328 00:36:59.320 --> 00:37:05.720 in the public square. What's wrong with that? Taylor Swift gets to do it, 329 00:37:08.040 --> 00:37:13.560 right? Oprah Winfrey gets to do it. Why can't a Christian do it? 330 00:37:15.160 --> 00:37:25.240 It has since spread to other locations in the Calvary network of over 1800 churches 331 00:37:25.720 --> 00:37:34.120 among those being Calvary Chapel Red Bluff. And it says here that 332 00:37:36.360 --> 00:37:44.200 you are dedicated to making an impact. And it says that the language promotes and encourages 333 00:37:44.200 --> 00:37:53.000 the parishioners to be alert and to alert them. That's exactly they just told you that you were 334 00:37:53.000 --> 00:37:59.480 the watchman. You alerted them. And they took their community back. They took a stand. They're 335 00:37:59.480 --> 00:38:08.600 excited. They're energized. And I just can't say enough. I just can't wait to see what happens 336 00:38:08.600 --> 00:38:15.800 more because by your one man standing in the gap, Pastor Greg, you have emboldened and encouraged 337 00:38:15.880 --> 00:38:22.040 others to make a difference in Northern California. And you know what, even still, what about, 338 00:38:22.680 --> 00:38:27.880 what about what if you and I lose every battle? All of our lives. We just lose every battle because 339 00:38:27.880 --> 00:38:35.880 we stood on the Lord's side. And then the end we stand before him to find out that we lost every 340 00:38:35.880 --> 00:38:41.480 battle and wound up winning the war. I'm totally okay with that. Totally fine with that. 341 00:38:41.800 --> 00:38:48.520 So, Pastor Greg, what would you say to pastors that are watching this right now? And they might 342 00:38:48.520 --> 00:38:54.680 even be thinking, see, that's why I didn't want to get involved. Sure. What would you say to them? 343 00:38:55.400 --> 00:39:01.240 Well, you know, I would just strongly encourage them. You know, we're not to be secret disciples. 344 00:39:01.800 --> 00:39:08.280 You know, Lord calls us to be light and what good is salt to be flavor if it has no flavor in it. 345 00:39:08.280 --> 00:39:14.440 You know, and it goes beyond our doors. We want to encourage our community. We love our community. 346 00:39:15.320 --> 00:39:20.440 And we want to see good things for our schools. We want to see good things that happen. And we can 347 00:39:20.440 --> 00:39:26.520 only do that if we truly take charge of our responsibility. As you said, there to be the watchman 348 00:39:26.520 --> 00:39:31.560 on the wall to bring those issues to the forefront. And I think, you know, when we've been silent, 349 00:39:31.560 --> 00:39:36.040 we've seen the outcome of that. Haven't we lived a long, long enough time seeing where the church 350 00:39:36.040 --> 00:39:41.560 has been silent? And, you know, I know so many will say, well, you know, you're one of those 351 00:39:41.560 --> 00:39:46.120 nationalists, you know, well, yeah, I love my country. But, you know, I have no illusions. You know, 352 00:39:46.120 --> 00:39:53.480 Jesus will be the only king in that. And so, you know, again, whether we would have seen good 353 00:39:53.480 --> 00:39:58.600 in the election or our bad in the election, it wouldn't have changed our job. We still have to be 354 00:39:58.600 --> 00:40:06.200 a light. And we still have to love people and make disciples. Well, God's called us pastors. 355 00:40:06.200 --> 00:40:11.560 Don't be, don't be fearful. You know, if you're a man, that's not what we were on to be. We want 356 00:40:11.560 --> 00:40:17.000 to fear the Lord. And because one day we will stand before him. And I want to hear well done good 357 00:40:17.000 --> 00:40:24.360 and faithful servant. And, you know, this, so this life is, is but a vapor turning to come sooner 358 00:40:24.360 --> 00:40:31.320 than we think. So that would be my encouragement. Yeah. I'm curious. Do you have any grandkids? 359 00:40:32.280 --> 00:40:37.720 I have two. Yeah. They're both 12 year old or 11 year old and an eight year old. 360 00:40:39.080 --> 00:40:44.840 Okay. So for you and I, I always wonder if the Lord allows. I mean, I hope Jesus comes back for us 361 00:40:44.840 --> 00:40:53.960 today. Amen. Please, Lord. But if he doesn't, and you and I live out our, our, our expiration date 362 00:40:54.040 --> 00:41:02.440 in this world. And I want to make sure that my grandkids know that their Papa stood for what was 363 00:41:02.440 --> 00:41:09.880 right. I want them to know that. I want, I want them in the day of their challenge. I won't be 364 00:41:09.880 --> 00:41:17.080 around. But when they're challenged that they can go back and they can, you know, find out, did 365 00:41:17.320 --> 00:41:24.840 my, what did my, what did my Papa do when this was happening? And did my Papa do anything about 366 00:41:25.800 --> 00:41:31.960 pornography in the school board or this renegade government, you know, that's going on whatever. 367 00:41:32.760 --> 00:41:40.680 So that's so important to us. And listen, Pastor Greg, um, and forgive me. Down in Southern California, 368 00:41:40.680 --> 00:41:45.080 I know where you guys are. It's different. And California truly is two separate states in 369 00:41:45.080 --> 00:41:50.440 mentality. It is. If people don't know that it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, you can feel the difference. 370 00:41:51.240 --> 00:41:54.920 Yep. So having said that, I'm going to ask you this, 371 00:41:56.680 --> 00:42:01.880 Calvary Chapel Red Bluff, what communities think now? I'm going to challenge your geography. 372 00:42:02.520 --> 00:42:10.200 And I'm doing this for a reason. And what is, what communities fall within you within an 373 00:42:10.280 --> 00:42:17.480 hours drive to your church? An hours drive in any direction? What, what a prominent, if any, names of 374 00:42:17.480 --> 00:42:25.640 cities or towns pop up? You have Reading, California. Oh, okay. We have Chico, Chico, California. 375 00:42:25.640 --> 00:42:29.640 Okay. Those are the main major ones. And then, you know, a lot of little ones, 376 00:42:29.640 --> 00:42:37.240 Orland, Corning, Cottonwood, Anderson, Mount Chasta, Dunsmear. There's a lot of 377 00:42:37.240 --> 00:42:45.560 communities, minerals. Dunsmear is within an hours drive. Oh, yeah. Man, I love that place. 378 00:42:47.480 --> 00:42:53.080 Beautiful. Isn't it? It's, you know what? If any Californians who, who they don't want to go to 379 00:42:53.080 --> 00:42:57.560 Austria or they don't want to go to Switzerland to see the Alps, they should go to Dunsmear. 380 00:42:57.560 --> 00:43:01.000 They'll feel like they're in Switzerland. I've been, I've been to both. I'm telling you, 381 00:43:01.000 --> 00:43:06.120 you can't tell the difference. Um, okay. Why did I just do that to you? Because I'm telling all 382 00:43:06.120 --> 00:43:11.800 of you who are watching right now, if you live or if you know somebody who lives in that region of 383 00:43:11.800 --> 00:43:18.360 an hours drive, I'm a big fan because in Southern California, on Sundays, people drive an hour 384 00:43:18.360 --> 00:43:24.280 here to church. I felt bad for them at first, but then they have their services with us and 385 00:43:24.280 --> 00:43:28.520 then they drive back an hour and you know what they tell me? Pastor Jack, we've been doing this 386 00:43:28.520 --> 00:43:34.600 now ever since COVID. We, we drive to church. We get, we get teaching and then we drive an hour 387 00:43:34.600 --> 00:43:39.880 back home talking about the sermon, talking about children's ministry, talking about what's going on 388 00:43:39.880 --> 00:43:46.040 and our walks have never been stronger. So the drive, the drive, that should be a devotion called the 389 00:43:46.040 --> 00:43:53.000 drive. If you live within an hour of Pastor Greg's church and your church isn't standing, 390 00:43:53.640 --> 00:43:57.880 you got to go to his church. You got to make the drive. Make it, you see, 391 00:43:57.880 --> 00:44:03.320 Pastor, gas is too expensive. It's going to, it's going to come down. Gas is going to start dropping, 392 00:44:03.320 --> 00:44:08.040 but you know what? It should cost us something to go to the house of God in worship anyway. 393 00:44:08.680 --> 00:44:13.560 It should cost us something or else it's not really worship. You should go to Pastor Greg's 394 00:44:13.560 --> 00:44:19.640 fellowship at Calvary Chapel Redbluff because he's standing up. The congregation is standing up. 395 00:44:20.200 --> 00:44:27.640 They will follow Jesus even if they get a bad review from the San Francisco gate and 396 00:44:28.440 --> 00:44:33.960 they're holding the line and they're making a difference. And so if you're in a sleepy church 397 00:44:33.960 --> 00:44:39.720 anywhere within that region, you should drive there and make a day of it because God is worth it 398 00:44:40.520 --> 00:44:46.280 and your walk with him is worth it. And I want to thank you, Pastor Greg, your worth it. 399 00:44:46.280 --> 00:44:52.040 What you're doing is the right thing and it's caught the eye of the enemy and they're upset. 400 00:44:52.760 --> 00:44:58.840 Congratulations, Bullseye, direct hit, and I love it. And so, 401 00:44:59.880 --> 00:45:07.160 Father, I pray that you'd bless Lord Calvary Chapel Redbluff, that those who see this podcast, 402 00:45:07.160 --> 00:45:13.080 those who read the article in the gate if anybody reads them, that they would say, 403 00:45:13.080 --> 00:45:16.200 hey, that's a church I want to go to. I want to go to a church that makes a difference. 404 00:45:16.200 --> 00:45:20.760 I want to go to a church at Spiritfield. I want to go to a church that obeys the Bible. 405 00:45:21.400 --> 00:45:27.880 And Father, I pray right now that you'd bless Greg, bless his family, bless his grandkids, 406 00:45:28.440 --> 00:45:34.360 Father God surrounding with your favor, build a bubble over his home, over his congregation, 407 00:45:34.360 --> 00:45:40.040 over his church, that whatever weapon the enemy forms to launch at them is actually just 408 00:45:40.440 --> 00:45:47.720 directed right back on the back of their neck. That the weapon they launch against him would land on them instead. 409 00:45:47.720 --> 00:45:52.920 And Lord, that you would protect them profoundly. I thank you for this man of God, 410 00:45:52.920 --> 00:45:59.160 and Father, keep him in all of his ways. We ask you, Lord, in Jesus' name. Amen. 411 00:45:59.160 --> 00:46:07.480 Pastor Greg, thank you so much for being with us. And man, if I'm ever up there, I've got to meet you. I've got to see you. 412 00:46:07.800 --> 00:46:11.000 Yeah, you can combine. See us. We'd love that. I'd love it. 413 00:46:12.520 --> 00:46:16.680 And God, he had God bless California, right? Yeah. Yeah. 414 00:46:17.560 --> 00:46:22.440 I was going to say, I just want to thank you. I know you probably hear it a lot, but your 415 00:46:22.440 --> 00:46:27.960 tremendous influence and you know, for pastors who, you know, need the resources. And you guys, 416 00:46:27.960 --> 00:46:33.160 you do that. You and John Marquil, more Canary Ministries, I've flown out to Minnesota. 417 00:46:33.480 --> 00:46:38.120 They plug into pastors and we're still thankful for that. We need your guys' help and resources. 418 00:46:38.120 --> 00:46:42.520 And that's all kudos to you and the Lord. The Lord did it all, I'm sure. 419 00:46:42.520 --> 00:46:49.160 To obviously yes to him, be all the glory. God bless you so much. Take care, my friend. 420 00:46:49.160 --> 00:46:50.680 All right, brother. 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