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We should always be better at mocking ourselves

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than anyone else does.

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Think about all the things that you can think of

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that are adjacent to the insult that they have

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so that you can't agree with them

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and attack even more viciously than they are to yourself.

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And then you will appear as the class act,

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you will appear as more humble,

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and they will have nothing to say back.

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The wealthiest people in the world see business as a game.

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This podcast, the game, is my attempt

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at documenting the lessons I've learned

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on my way to build a acquisition.com

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into a billion dollar portfolio.

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My hope is that you use the lessons to bring your business

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and maybe someday soon partner with us

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to get $200 million in beyond.

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I hope you share and enjoy.

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If you do anything worth doing,

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there will be people who oppose you

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and they will throw rocks at you and attack.

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And I want to break down how I've dealt with it

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going from one seven and a half million followers

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for the last two years, so UK too.

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I get a lot of hate.

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Let's go through some of the fun ones that my team pulled.

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We'll see him working at Starbucks soon, loser.

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How much did the fake private jet cost you, loser?

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He just wants you to buy his course.

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My shit's free, by the way.

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So point is, lots of people, hey,

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and I'll read you a more good one that I prefer

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from Winston Churchill,

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because I think that probably matters

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a little bit more than loser 29.

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You have enemies?

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Good.

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That means you stood up for something

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sometime in your life.

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And I think that that kind of gets a little bit

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of the essence of what I talked to you today,

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but more importantly, how to deal with it.

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And I want to give you really tactical what to do,

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is not just like be tough, think positive,

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everything sucks, because I'm wrong, all that stuff's true.

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But I want to give you more of a PR playbook

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in terms of how to manage competitors who will hate on you,

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negative customers who will give you backlash,

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employees who will talk shit about you.

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Like these are the real things that happen in business.

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And so I want to walk through kind of two frameworks

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that I think through when dealing with hate, negativity,

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people calling you a liar,

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calling your character in question.

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These are all things that will happen.

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And as a side note, before I dive into this,

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hate is a prerequisite for success.

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Just like Winston Churchill said,

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you have enemies?

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Good.

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You stood up for something sometime in your life.

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And so the only people who get no hate

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are people who are invisible.

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Like if you do nothing, that is the only way

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to guarantee that you have no hate.

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But if you stand for anything in your life,

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there will be people who stand against you.

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And it is in their nature to attack.

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And that's okay, right?

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So first things first, I want to give you the,

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this is the quick and dirty,

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and then I'll get a little bit more nuanced, all right?

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So when someone attacks you,

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you have three options as I see it

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if the claim they are making has an element of truth.

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And so at level one, you have ignore, all right?

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Now this is what I would consider

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my all-time heavyweight champion of the world,

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personal preference, reasons why.

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Ignoring it costs me the least amount of time,

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the least amount of effort.

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And this is a very, very important one,

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is that they're choosing to advertise me.

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They're choosing to take all their hard earned attention,

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their eyes, the good will they have in their audience,

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and say, have everyone look at Alex.

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Man, like what a gift.

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And the crazy thing is that when people direct

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their customers towards you, some of them buy.

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And you don't even have to pay affiliate commissions

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for this stuff.

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And like that's what's mind-blowing.

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I mean, like thank God, like loser 29,

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like I hope you keep doing this,

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because it just continues to fill my bank account.

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So that being said, ignore costs you the least.

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There's no effort on your behalf.

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and guess what happens next?

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Because most people see hate and then just think drama.

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So then they go and engage with your stuff.

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And then they oftentimes make a decision about you,

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and then as a corollary, make a decision

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about the person who sent them.

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All the while, guess what you did?

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It's amazing.

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This is why it's probably one of my all-time favorite ways

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to deal with most things in life.

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Now, I'll give you the quote that my dad told me many,

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many times in my life.

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He said, God give you the power to ignore, use it.

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Now, the second thing, or the second course of action,

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is a little bit, this one takes effort, all right?

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And this is also one of my favorites.

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Agree.

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Now, I think Gary popularized the concept of M&amp;M

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winning the rap battle.

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And what he did in the rap battle,

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so that the other guy couldn't talk shit about him,

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is he claimed every single negative thing

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that was about him.

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He's like, I'm white, I'm short, I'm small,

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whatever all the things that he said, right?

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And so what happens is, so let's say someone comes up,

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and I'm going to tell you a really real world story

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that I just talked someone through who's a very big influencer

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who's getting maliciously attacked

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about something that wasn't true.

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I'm going to actually read the whole dialogue

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that I sent this particular individual,

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and I think it'll help you, all right?

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Well, I'll get to that in a little bit later.

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Now, if someone says, hey, Alex,

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you're such an egotistical douchebag,

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and you don't care about other people,

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I'd be like, I could agree,

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because it was like, yeah, man, I suck.

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What do they say now?

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Now, my fans will probably laugh at that,

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because they'd be like, wow, Alex is just playing the game

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or whatever it is.

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But like, if he or she then, what do they say after that?

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Yeah, man, you do.

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Like, there's nothing to say, and it just silences it,

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because the thing is that conflict only goes on

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as long as there's an equal opposing force.

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As soon as you step to their side of the table,

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there's nothing to push against.

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And so this actually ladders back

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to a way different story I've talked about customer service,

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which is there's only one person allowed in the angry boat.

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And so what you can do is you get in the angry boat with them,

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and you say, I know, I suck.

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And they're like, and then they have to get out,

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because if they agree with you, then what?

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It just eliminates the conflict.

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There's nothing left to talk about,

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and then you move on with your life.

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Now, the third level of this,

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is what I would consider ninja level,

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is there's different terms to this,

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charge the shooter, but I'll just go just to keep the language

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simple, or agree plus one or one up them.

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So if someone says, Alex, you're an egoist,

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and you don't like anyone, or you hate everybody, whatever.

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I could say, dude, you don't know the half of it.

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I do this and this and this.

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I don't even talk to my mother, like all of these things.

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Like you agree, and you say, if you knew half of it,

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you would say even more than that.

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And so what happens there is you just like a minute,

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and you take every single thing

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that can possibly say about you.

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it sounds easy for me to say this,

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but when you're in the trenches,

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the last thing that you're gonna think about

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is ignore, because you're gonna wanna attack back,

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because you're like, how fucking dare you, you liar,

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you're insulting me, but the thing is,

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is that the more insults you oftentimes,

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it's usually because there's an element of truth to it.

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And so ignore, if you want, agree, level two,

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level three is one up them.

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Insult yourself better than they can,

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and you should know how to do it better than they can,

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because you know you better than they do too.

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So this is the quick and dirty.

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Like if you don't have a lot of time to think,

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and you gotta get something out fast,

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this is typically how I would approach it.

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Now, I'll give you a simple example.

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So like, let's say you're a natural athlete,

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meaning you're a sports competitor of some sort,

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and you've built your career on being natural,

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or like a vegan, or whatever, right?

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You've built it on something that makes you unique.

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you're building your whole brand on being natural,

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and this has happened many, many times

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in the body building world,

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so this is not like a new story,

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and it's because people look crazy if they're on steroids,

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spoiler alert, taking steroids, I inject testosterone,

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let's just get that out of the way, fantastic.

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I say in every fucking video,

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that being said, how do you handle in that incident?

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it's like, well, you don't wanna agree,

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and be like, dude, if you knew half the steroids,

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well, it doesn't work there, right?

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Now, I still oftentimes lean on this,

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which is ignore, and ignore is so powerful,

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because they are still sending you lots of traffic,

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and the reality is, no one gives a shit,

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because the only thing they will care about is drama,

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but no one likes somebody who just keeps punching someone

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who doesn't respond.

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The old Stokes used to say,

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how do you get angry at a rock?

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You can yell at a rock, you can scream at a rock,

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but the rock does not change, and eventually, they go away.

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Honestly, 95% of the conflict or the attacks that you will get,

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usually you can deal with with this three step process,

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which is first level, ignore, second level, agree,

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third level, plus one.

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If you haven't seen this, there's an unbelievable scene

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in Ted Lasso, where Nate, his former protégé,

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gets on the camera live and talks a bunch of shit about him

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and says that he's an idiot, he doesn't know what he's doing, whatever.

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And then, fast forward to the press conference,

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where they're asking Ted Lasso,

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who's kind of the pinnacle of like the ultimate character

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in the movie in terms of how noble he is,

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and how good of a person he tries to be.

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And he handles it perfectly from a PR perspective,

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and he actually uses number three.

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He says, oh man, Nate said that about me.

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Man, he could have said this, he could have said this,

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he could have said, he could have made some fun of my accent.

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He could have made fun of, and he's like,

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because I sound like Ganky Doodle over here.

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And so, he just keeps on braiding himself,

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and then the whole crew of newscasters just start laughing,

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because there's nothing else to say.

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Now, if he had then attacked back,

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then it would have become this whole drama,

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but after that, it's done.

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He puts it to rest, and then Nate looks vicious

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for attacking somebody who has a sense of humor.

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So, ignore, agree, or one up.

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That's kind of the escalation that handles it, 95, 99% of it.

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Real quick, guys, if you can think about

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how you found this podcast,

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somebody probably tweeted it, told you about it,

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shared it on Instagram, or something like that.

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The only way this grows is through word of mouth.

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And so, I don't run ads, I don't do sponsorships,

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I don't sell anything.

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My only ask is that you continue to pay it forward,

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do whoever showed you or however you found out

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about this podcast that you do the exact same thing.

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So, if it was a review, if it was a post,

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if you do that, it would mean the world to me,

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and you'll throw some good karma out there

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for another entrepreneur.

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The second category is typically ones

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where there's a lie.

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And that's one where, so here's, they track your character,

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right, they check some element about you, whatever.

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But if someone lies, so really, like I'm gonna be very honest

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with you, there's tough ones with like sexual assault stuff

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and things like that, like that can be really tough.

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On the flip side, you've got people who lie about claims,

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things they did they didn't do.

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like there's lots of claims basically people make,

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but I think at the foundational point,

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it just comes down to a lie, is that they accuse you

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of lying about something.

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Now, even in these situations, all right,

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so I'm just gonna give you, like these are the hard ones.

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Like I think these, now most people just get destroyed

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on the ones that I was talking about earlier.

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I don't even see those as problems.

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Like they're sending you traffic,

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they're making you money, thank God for them.

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All right, and you can do one, two, three,

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and you dismantle them publicly.

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And you look like a class act and they look like a douchebag.

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Now, this is something called an extinction curve,

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which basically means that people will over time,

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you basically extinguish action.

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And so a classic example would be like,

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I could yell at a rock.

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at some point I will stop yelling at the rock.

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Why?

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Because the rock doesn't give me any feedback.

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And so what we wanna be in this situation is the rock.

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Like when you are ignoring, you are stone, right?

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They can do whatever they want.

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It doesn't affect you.

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And I love this position because you are greater than.

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And I'll give you a couple quick sayings around,

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hate that I think are helpful,

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but like hate only comes from below.

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It never comes from above.

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In my entire life, it has never come from above.

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And so if someone hates on you,

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just take that as mental note of the fact that they're below you

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and they concede the fact that they follow you.

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And they also are bad at business

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because by the way, in my entire life,

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I don't think I've ever publicly hated

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or thrown shade on someone.

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And it's because I never wanna send my customers

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to somebody else, I never send my audience

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that I work so hard to do to somebody else.

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It's pretty fun to like them.

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Why would I do that?

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Right?

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Why would I give them that gift?

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Why would I waste time on my platform

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to not deliver any value to my audience

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and then direct them to a competitor?

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What a fucking moronic thing to do?

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Anyways, so you have this extinction curve

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that people, now some person will yell at a rock once

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and then walk away.

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Some people have to yell two, three, four times

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they walk away, but everyone has a curve

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where they stop doing something, right?

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And so like if you knock on a door and no one comes,

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sometimes you knock again.

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And then so, but some people knock three, four, five, five,

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five, seven, everyone different

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based on how many times you've had to knock in the past

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before door gets open.

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That's how extinction curves work.

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It's based on past behavior.

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And so based on the person who's hating on you,

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they will maybe hit on you one time and then disappear

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or hit on you two times and then disappear.

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But if you don't respond, they will eventually disappear.

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It is just a fact of life.

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Unless they get reinforcement, they will disappear.

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And that's why I just choose not to engage.

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I also don't like wasting my time.

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Now, let's go into the four box of the ugly scenarios

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of what if what they're saying

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is basically calling you a liar

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around something core to your brand

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or what you've been known for, okay?

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So here's my little box.

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So you've got bigger than you, smaller than you,

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and then they said you lied about something

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or they said something else.

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So I told you this can get really tacked with

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so you can just like look, where is this person

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on this sphere?

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All right, so let's start with the easiest one.

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If someone's smaller than you

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and they just said, Alex has big ears.

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I can ignore them, which I probably would

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because I don't have time for that.

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I could agree and be like, hell yeah, I got big ears.

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You should see what else in there, right?

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Number three, I would be like, not only do I have big ears,

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I could one up and be like,

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they're actually even worse when it rains

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because then I catches all the water

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and then my back gets wet.

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It's a whole problem.

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Believe me, my wife will tell you, right?

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Now all of a sudden, there's nothing they can say.

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So we do the one, two, three process here.

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You pick whichever one you want

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and all three of them will serve you.

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Now, let's go into slightly harder territory.

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They're smaller than you,

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but they're basically calling you out on a lie

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that could threaten your reputation.

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They say you falsified claims, you like,

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you did something that you weren't supposed to do

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something along those lines

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which typically comes to you just honesty,

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which is one of the things that the whole world hates.

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The world would forgive just about anything

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except for a liar, kind of interesting.

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Now, in my opinion, I'm just giving you the Alex Playbook.

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I ignore, that's it, I ignore.

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And as painful as it is,

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and to see them, you know, frothing at the mouth

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and the comment threads they have go back and forth,

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never once have I made less money from anyone doing this.

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Because think about this.

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The only way that you combat their message

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is by being louder with yours,

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not directing your traffic to them.

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And so you ignore them, plus you amplify.

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Because every moment that I spend addressing them,

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I stop giving value to my audience.

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So in a very real way, attacks have taken people down.

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But because of how they responded,

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not because of the strength of the attacker.

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And so they take someone off their game,

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then they get into this petty pissing match

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with someone who's lower than them.

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And it makes them look bad.

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Even if you win, you lose.

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It's a period of victory.

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You lose credibility.

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You look petty people see different side of you.

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All of that's bad.

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And so I prefer to pretend you don't exist

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and then 10x my message.

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And tell everyone who's on my team,

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these fuckers are lying and trying to destroy us.

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The only way that you beat hate

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is you don't beat hate.

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You drown it out.
