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Real Life presents the Jack Hibb's podcast with intention and boldness to proclaim

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truth, equip the saints and impact our culture. Hey everybody you're gonna want to

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reason why we've got with us Ken Ham and we're gonna be talking about some

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things that you deal with every day. I'm almost convinced of it. You're gonna

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Hey everybody welcome back to our podcast and we've got an awesome treat

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today. It's amazing for me to be here in this setting with Ken Ham because I

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used to sit in the pews at Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa and just be lost in the

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crowd as this man would come and expound and illuminate and give us insights

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into the book of Genesis and he has such a huge role in my life just the

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appraisal of the Bible being top shelf everything the authority of scripture.

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Ken it's awesome to have you with this and for those who don't know he is the

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chief executive officer and founder most importantly of answers in Genesis if

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if you have any children or not you need to go to a i g dot or g right

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answers in Genesis dot org answers in Genesis dot org you're gonna want to go

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there incredible leading edge top top technology presentations curriculum just

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it's wonderful and of course if you're ever in the area if not make it happen

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get to the creation museum and the arc experience it is absolutely the best

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Ken it's great to have you here and it's great to be here well listen you are

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you're a legend and our our students here at at our school get baptized into

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your curriculum and the arc encounter on almost I think an annual basis so

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you you guys are family um let's just dive right into this because we don't have

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all that much time normally it is a lot of time but with Ken Ham time flies

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are you saying I talk about no listen what you have to say is absolutely essential

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and so how about if I start a little bit sarcastically like this Ken there must

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be something wrong with my Bible I read here that there's in the book of

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Genesis which you are a great fan of from chapters one through eleven

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specifically but there's something wrong Ken there's something wrong because I

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can only find two genders in here even among the animals am I wrong am I going wrong

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here well you know what this should help you okay and calm you down just show

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you're not wrong because in the New Testament Jesus his son of God who doesn't

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tell a lie who knows everything who is the creator who's always been there when

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he was asked about marriage said haven't you read he made the beginning made

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the male and female that's in Matthew 19 he does it again in Mark 10 and he's

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actually quoting the text of Genesis 127 yes in other words he is affirming

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the historicity of Genesis and there's Jesus saying there's only two genders

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yeah male and female and of course you know throughout the Bible you only find

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two genders I mean you jump further in Genesis Genesis 5 2 there's only two

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genders all the way through you know Leviticus other places there's only two

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genders male and female and you know science actually confirms that absolutely

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science confirms it you don't even have to be a scientist to figure that out nor do

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you have to be someone who's read their Bible to figure this out because well

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that's true it's obviously common sense if you think about it I think I heard

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President Trump say that common sense we just heard that recently we just heard

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some some tremendous activity in the White House today regarding all of this

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but I remember way way back when there's a guy but then you know by the name of

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Dr. A. E. Walters Smith and yeah I met him I remember him speaking on various

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topics and one of them is that and this is I'm gonna flood it up but you'll you

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will bail me out I'm sure okay so that without the Bible there's evidence from

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nature which is created from God so that if you never had the Scriptures you

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would know instinctively because the truth is written on the human heart that

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there's a male and there's a female and that there's this internal

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understanding of of the appreciation of both and then on top of the fact and

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I thought this was brilliant and I've never forgotten it that if you are a

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person who denies the existence of God then you've got to explain some other

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route for all of this happening he said this doesn't work because if you have

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evolution taking place you've got to have it happening in sexual unison in

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other words both both male and female how did you ever get them have to

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sexually mature at the exact same time to propagate how is that gonna happen

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and then somebody says why I don't believe in God then you're gonna go to a

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different argument but can the argument of there is no God and evolution is

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what brought us here in this remarkable series of profound accidents so that

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we're here today the interesting thing is isn't if if evolution's true can

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wouldn't evolution have washed away eradicated the LBGTQ activity because it's

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non-productive yeah wouldn't make sense you become extinct very quickly when

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you if we didn't have two genders and you know it's interesting we know a lot

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more today about genetics and DNA that molecule veredity that makes up our genes

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our chromosomes we're made of 23 pairs of chromosomes and it's very interesting

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that we have a pair of sex chromosomes and males have an X and a Y and females

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have an X and an X yeah and so when you get politicians like we had you know

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recently in recent times who said they don't know what a woman is yeah let me

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tell you the rule you're ready okay if you've got a Y you're a guy if you don't

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have a Y you're not a guy it's as simple as that oh I like that and see it we

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should get that in t-shirts exactly if you're a Y you're a guy and if you're not

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a Y you're not a guy if you don't have a Y you're not a guy and you know

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somebody asked me recently about well what what about aren't there some people

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that have like two X's in a Y yeah let me explain that let me explain what

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happened there yeah but they said what would they be male or female say very

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simple if they got a Y they're a guy if they don't have the Y they're not a

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guy so that'd be a male right regardless now there are some they call them

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exceptions but they're a fraction of a percent a fraction of a

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percent to the point that they are anomalies to say the least yes and say the

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least and that doesn't negate the created order but you know it's only a

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biblical worldview that explains that because of sin God no longer holds

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everything together perfectly so now there are mutations or mistakes that add

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up in our genes and it's not just sex chromosomes but you can have problems

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in other chromosomes as well right because of the fall in other words because

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it's a foreign world and so what you see is here's the created order which is

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quite obvious right two two sex male and female there's a created order but

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we see some distortions and why the distortions because it's a fallen world

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so it's only when you start from Genesis that you can explain that interesting so

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I have this question for you so if we have a mutation does the mutation ever

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mutate upward or downward in other words does it because all have sin and we live

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in a world of sin does the mutation move upward to a more superhuman or does

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it result in a decline and problems well let me say this let me give you an

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overall statement but then I need to clarify right and I ask people wait for

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the clarification so there are no in ultimately there are no beneficial

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mutations now you'll be careful saying that because the secularists will say

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but there are some beneficial mutations take sickle selenemia if you have sickle

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selenemia then you can actually be resistant to malaria well yeah if you

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got the sickle gene that's true and they say that's a beneficial mutation it's

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not beneficial in an overall sense because you don't want it because if you if

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you have the sickle cell genes diagnosed with it I mean you don't want that

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that then then you get two of those together I mean you you can have also

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to brain problems and all sorts of other problems and physiological problems

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and other words in an environment we have a lot of malaria people who have

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that mutation can survive but overall it is detrimental to the population and

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it's certainly detrimental to genetics because it's destructive and so no

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there are no when you understand them beneficial mutations which means by the

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way do you realize something human race can't keep going on and on and on

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there's a lot of mutations that we carry a lot of mistakes in our genes genetic

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load they call it it's increasing more and more and more they'll come a time

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when there's just gonna be so many problems it's not gonna make sense that's

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the opposite of evolution well this being the the beginnings of a new year we've

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all as a church we're going through our one year Bible of course obviously we went

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through Noah and Noah was found to be perfect in his generation and if I

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remember right from my days under pastor Chuck Smith he made it a big point to

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point out that that Noah was somehow pure or clean or genetically healthy in

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his generation meaning Chuck would say that the aberrant sexuality and the

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strange things that were going on that led to the flood Noah had kept

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himself pure and I find that if in fact true that in Romans 1 talks about the

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judgment that those who practice aberrant sexuality receive the judgment

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within them it says it tells us that it's within them they they receive

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their due recompense it's a lot of people say a lot of things about those and I

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guess we have to be careful because the Bible is not explicit you know I mean we

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try to read into things but you know you mentioned Romans 1 which I think is

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very very interesting because Romans 1 is a picture of our culture right now

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and Romans you know I remember as a as a kid reading Romans 1 you think wow

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must be so bad in those days you know and couldn't imagine what that would be

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like never knowing one day I'd be reading it applying to this culture and it's

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interesting you notice something when people reject God as creator and they

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worship the creation instead of the creator by the way I think that happens in

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California where they have the creation having dominion over man man works

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just the creation instead of having man having dominion over the creation

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and that affects your whole views of environmentalism it affects your whole

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views and you know for instance you know here's a problem and that is people

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who reject God believe everything natural is good but the Bible says

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everything is cursed and because they think everything natural is good you

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shouldn't you know touch these forests you shouldn't clear all this

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yeah you shouldn't try to backman or anything like that it really does

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affect your practical day to see because they have the wrong world view it's

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the same with even law enforcement you know there's this philosophy you know

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that man is basically good and because man is basically good improve his

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environment and he'll get better no the heart of man is deceitful above all

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things and desperately wicked man is basically wicked right and you have you

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have to help people deal with a wicked heart but you know when you read

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Romans 1 when they reject the creator and they worship the creation rather than

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the creator what do you find happening God turns him over to their depraved nature

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that sinful heart where it masters over them and you see it's there in Romans

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1 the sexual revolution the homosexual revolution now we have the gender

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revolution and so it's that progression that occurs as man turns his back on

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God and we see it's applying to our culture today and we need to we don't

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understand what's happening because man has made himself God that's right and

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you know where that goes back to if you think about it Genesis 3 1 and Genesis

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3 5 when the devil came to tempt Adam and Eve he said did God really say

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don't trust God's word you can't trust yeah you know the first attack was on

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God's word and then Genesis 3 5 you can be as God you be your own God and so

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that's our nature our nature is we want to be our own God and we've taken

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generations of kids through an education system that is thrown God out and they

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said man determines truth and the more man determines truth then that's the

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foundation that builds a worldview that says you know like the book of

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Judges 21 25 when there's no king no absolute authority everyone does what is

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right in his own eyes and so the more we take generations and teach them

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against God tell them man determines truth your your own God we will see moral

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relativism dominate our culture which is what we see exactly right and we

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seen what church attendance for generation Z is now less than 9% we see in a

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catastrophic generation loss from the church because so many pastors have not

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stood on the word of God have not stood on Genesis which is the foundation for

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everything do you know the first 11 chapters is a foundation for everything this is

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your homework this is your calling there's nothing it's not the foundation for

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and if that's true to deal with any issue you can name any issue Euthanasia

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fossils age of earth gender whatever it is you have to start from Genesis 1

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to 11 it's the history God has given us it's foundational for everything which

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also means Genesis 1 to 11 is the key to being woke proof because once you

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once you have that foundation you know what you believe you know where it

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comes from and once you understand people who don't start from God's word start

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from man's word that's why they believe the way they are and then you

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understand something else to really deal with those worldview issues in our

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culture right that worldview cult clash ultimately and I don't want people

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misunderstand me I'm not saying you shouldn't be out there dealing with the

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abortion issue and the gay marriages we need to be right but ultimately to get

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people who have a worldview of moral relativism to have one of the Christian

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absolutes they have to have a heart and mind change from building their

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thinking on man's word to God's word because if that change doesn't occur

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ultimately you're not going to see the change in worldview it's so great because

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the natural man cannot discern the things in the spirit and yet they feel they

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feel so so true about where they're at that they've got to panic and say well

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that's your truth my truth is this truth and then they begin that path

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downward of trying to justify everything so you mentioned something about how

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California is a perfected environmental worship right now Elon Musk is going

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through a battle here in the state of California because the governor is trying

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to keep Elon from launching his rockets from Vandenberg Air Force Base claiming

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that it might be harmful to the environment it might be the same governor for

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example said we will not have water in our reservoirs because they're man-made

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reservoirs their man-made reservoirs in these canyons and in these areas and so

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because they're man-made we're not going to let water be backed up and filled

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even though they worked great for 50 years and lo and behold what happens when

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like you just said man-tampers and becomes God we have you know we have a

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chunks of Los Angeles burning down to the ground life being lost these

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policies are death and destruction because they do not follow the stewardship

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mandate given to us by God that look you've been to Europe I've been to

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Europe they don't have these problems in their forest because citizens are

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told when you walk through the woods in Germany you pick up a dead stick and

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they're forced or pristine you go to Sequoia or your somebody here and it

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looks like a dump all because the governor says you can't pick it up and it's a

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fire waiting to happen bad thinking and and you know what's interesting is that

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same governor says it's okay to murder children in the womb yeah not a problem

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that's not a problem at all it's like Peter saying we shouldn't eat animals but

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you can murder children in the womb that's okay and and you know it's interesting

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because when you have that evolutionary foundation right that there's no God

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everything came up by chance random processes and you don't believe man is

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made in the image of God then you have a world view that's that's the

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opposite of what we get from Scripture because with man-made in the image of

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God we certainly ought to look after the environment but use it for man's good

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and for God's glory and the dominion mandate which you just mentioned before

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God gave the dominion mandate that man was to look after the environment he has

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dominion over the animals dominion over the creation and because it's a

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cursed creation because sin has affected it we can improve it I love what you

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just said this is not said enough so many people Christians either don't think

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about it or they think wrong about it it was an act of mercy that God gave us

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and kept us as being the custodians of this world even as fallen as it is

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you're right man is God's ambassador representative to make things better in a

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very very bad place we can be even though we're fallen we can build the

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hospitals we can pick up the sticks so the forest doesn't burn down we can

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build dams we can build all we can do we can even I know it's shocker but there

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was a problem Ken you know you may not be aware but the Canadians who came down

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to help us with the fires they figured out wait a minute I'm put I'm flying

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around with these super scoopers there's homes here on the shoreline in

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Malibu burning I'll just put my plane down in the Pacific Ocean it's it's

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five hundred yards away and scoop up and they were scooping up the Canadians

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God bless them the Canadians thought wow there's the Pacific Ocean there's the

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fire I'm a super scooper and what happened the Pacific the the coastal

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commission they said well you can't do that you can't because you don't you

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could be sucking up fish you could hit a whale you could hit a dolphin we can't

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do that we can't let the homes burn in other words yeah we're not gonna put

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put humans might need me to God first we're we're gonna put the animal the

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creation first and again it's it's the creation having dominion of a man

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and you know you think about this we have doctors God is allowed us to have

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doctors why so they can help us overcome the effects of the curse now

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ultimately everyone dies so we can't overcome the ultimate end you're right

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they can mitigate but yeah we can take them to help with diseases they do

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operations because we know there's there's problems and we try to repair it

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and we and we try to make it the best we can it's right and yet with the

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environment it's the opposite they want to do that and so they're totally

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inconsistent and you know we've we've got to understand that they have

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rejected the creator God and God turns them over to foolishness that's what

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the Bible says to their to their prayed natures and they think there's

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something yeah we can see exactly because they just don't have that

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biblical worldview it's a secular worldview it's based on man's word and and

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they'll always be inconsistent always being consistent save this little fish

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but you can you can rip children up in their mother's words that's right that's

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you know if they're you what you should always look for for these people they

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cannot have a consistent worldview and they ultimately have to borrow from the

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Christian worldview because if they start talking about right or wrong

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women how do you decide what's right how do you decide what's wrong without an

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absolute authority you know anything goes without an absolute authority it's

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all subjective it's all relative why can you determine something's good or bad

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if one of those people even uses the word good stop them right there well I

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got in trouble one day it was in LA I had to go there for the interview I'm not

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going to mention the network but it's known to everybody and the issue was

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California politics and the church's involvement in the definition of

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marriage so you think about that for a moment God invents marriage it's in the

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Bible but what politicians do is they run into this topic or this issue and

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they raise a political flag over it and then they tell the church you can't

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speak to this and I just refuse to cooperate with that so I was in this

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interview in LA and I was asked by the interviewer you know there's a lot of

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dangerous homophobic positions and I said well that's not my position but as

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we're talking about this topic we have to remember that God made and I and I

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quoted Genesis 1 26 to 28 and the guy had mentioned well you know he didn't say

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back in those days he didn't say love is love but he he alluded he alluded to

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that and I said well you have to remember something that for life to continue

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on even if somebody has a an aberrant sexual lifestyle or desire they're

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going to have to borrow from normal to to have a family and exactly that guy that

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anchor man was livid at that comment are you telling me that these people are

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not normal and I said you have to borrow from normal to have a child and to

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pretend the property you have to borrow from the created order and you know you

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said something there was there was really important you said God defines

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marriage yes right God is the creator he creates all things I mean the very

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first verse of the Bible in the beginning God created he creates everything he

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owns everything he defines everything he defines marriage he defines gender he

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defines everything now if you think about what's happening in our culture right

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what is happening those who reject God and build their thinking on man's

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word because God owns everything and defines everything they then have to take

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what God has defined and then they redefine it within their own world view

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so they get to be God they get to be God and see we got to remember something the

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secular worldview a lot of people have the wrong idea about secular I don't think

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secular means neutral secular schools means neutral the Bible says you are the

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four Christ or against working light or darkness gather or scatter build your

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house on the rock of the sand so we really should replace the word secular with

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anti-God by the way imagine if we started doing that and getting people to say

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my kids go to the anti-God education system five hours a day but it'll

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shock them into reality and we need to do that yeah we should change it to

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anti-God it makes people realize my kids learn the anti-God worldview and the

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anti-God education system five hours a day what is that going to tell you

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about what your kids are learning and see what they do then is the anti-God

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worldview takes what God has done and they're going to redefine it and turn it

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in the opposite direction so they redefine marriage they redefine gender they

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redefine work because it's a doctrine of work they redefine the family they

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redefine dominion they redefine they redefine the life they take everything

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God has created and turn it around oh my goodness this is this is a great

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sermon material it is it really is absolutely awesome so none of this is

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rehearsed you guys we're not we haven't rehearsed any of this so what's what's

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driving you okay we talked about these issues what do you want to hit on

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next what what topic just well you know I let me say something that that I don't

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want people in this understanding and you can clarify if I don't put enough

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caveats in and that is this I am thrilled to see in government people turning

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things around in regard to morality okay now here's the thing though this is

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what we got to be really careful and I I'm gonna say we need more people in

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government who have a Christian worldviews like like our good friend Mike Johnson

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for instance and there's others right we need more of them there and people need

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to get more involved in school boards and other things to be salt and light

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right to that so I'm not in any way undermining that I'm absolutely endorsing

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that in fact I wrote articles telling people you need to get out there and

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remember you're not voting for a pastor or an elder that's right and so you can't

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use those qualifications okay but it's very important for the future of the

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nation and our freedoms and all the rest of it now having said all that government

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is not the answer that's right and too many people I think put their faith in

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government and legislature tragically it's important and God is all dang it's not the

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important but it's not the ultimate answer and so what I really want people to

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understand is the fact that if if you want to see a culture change that's right

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it's it only changes because of hearts and minds people change it and other

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words how do you ultimately change the culture because if you think about this

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has happened if you go back if you go back in history and look at the different

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administrations that come and go in government what do you notice they come and

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they're against abortion they come they're they're for abortion they're

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against they're for the ways of the sea it just changes back and forth back and

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forward so ultimately the only answer to deal with all these issues in an

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ultimate sense there's got to be a heart and mind change in regard to God

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in regard to his word in regard to the gospel because until people

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believe God's word and trust Christ for salvation and build their thinking on

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God's word in the long one we're not going to be successful

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and it has to be a person at a time who's heart and mind's change and the more

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that we go out and impact this person and that person and you start impacting

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this person and that person do you realize if every Christian in our

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churches went and won one person to the Lord it won't be long you'd be

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fighting over the non-Christians think about that think but those church

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numbers that were declining wouldn't yeah they would turn around it would

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exponentially exponentially change and you know we we need to be out there

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seeing lives changed hearts of minds change one at a time and then they

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change the culture that's right because then they get on school boards they

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get into congress they yeah get into senate they then start to change things

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because of who they are in the world view they have I love it 100% true um

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I've said this maybe once I'll say it again

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and this is okay hate mail is going to come but

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we worked really okay don't get hyped you should be asking what you're doing

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I so believe in what you just said that leading up to the elections um

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we did everything this this church was amazing a ballot collection which is

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legal in this state I know where you're from there's no such thing we mastered

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it literally tens of thousands of ballots brought in safely counted all

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legit all legal and California shockingly up and down the state

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went trending red powerfully so we're very excited about all that

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but I got to tell you Ken I looked around at the horizon and I listened to the

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dialogue of the of the culture and I told Lisa

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uh I I if I were God according the scripture he raises up kings and he takes

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down kings if I were God I would give America Kamala Harris

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as president I expected her to win Ken I I never told anybody that because I

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didn't want to get anybody all riled up or depressed

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I never said it publicly after the election I was shocked

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pleasantly happy God's mercy then the next thought

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with everybody celebrating I didn't jump up and down

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was I glad for the victory yeah yeah of course

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but even with all of the political powers and changes we're seeing happening

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right now I mean you're a hundred miles right now

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finally from a secure border we have a secure border just south of us that

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hasn't happened in so long that's that's good news that's great

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bottom line is and I'm so glad you said what you just said

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is the thought just overwhelmed when I told the church after the election

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policies are gonna change laws are gonna change

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with all of this victory not one heart has been changed by this victory

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because the change now if anything and I believe this

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if anything's gonna change it's got it's got to now happen

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from what's ever left of the church the the true church the true church yeah

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that's I think I think God gave us a little pause

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to see if the church will step up and evangelize make disciples

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and in that changing hearts because as you said politics have been

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have been flow that is the answer and yeah you know it's interesting

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I said something similar but let me tell what my prayer was before the election

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okay I said Lord I can understand why this nation deserves judgment it

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deserves people in power uh as a judgment

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on this nation because of the millions of children

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murdered in their mothers and he hates this shedding of an innocent blood

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and the sexual perversion and and I was thinking about you know I've heard people

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say it's sort of getting more like Sodom and Gomorrah

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but it was a little it's it's different to Sodom and Gomorrah and I tell you why

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because I've thought about this because I've had many people say to me

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yeah that it's so wicked we we're in the days of Noah I mean must be like the days of Noah

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and I would say actually it's not you know why because in the days of Noah

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there are only eight people that went on that out think about that the rest were judged

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only eight people true right and and there's millions of people even though

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there are minority even though there's a lot there's millions of people

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who love the Lord in this nation this is true and my prayer and it was a prayer of

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others that I talked to too was this Lord when Abraham was talking to you

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about Sodom and Gomorrah he started at 50 would you save would you

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save these cities for 50 yes uh what about point what about 30

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and he gets down to 10 and God was even willing to save them for 10

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but there wasn't even 10 right sometimes just a little side I wonder if that's why

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Abraham didn't go any lower because he knew he didn't save the world for eight

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oh my gosh um but he would have saved him for 10

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and so I said Lord there's millions of righteous people in this nation

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and others were praying this as well so true um would you give this nation a reprieve

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for the sake of those people it's not like Sodom and Gomorrah there are millions

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who love you who stand on your work and and I agree with you I think God has given us a reprieve

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it's a window of opportunity and if God's people don't take it up this is it you could lose it

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I firmly believe that God did not pause this for for there to be a ra ra you know go go Trump

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go Republicans or go red or go whatever go moral I think God paused it although things I think

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God paused it to maybe say something like this hey church remember how you you were basically

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absent during covid how about one more chance and now I'm going to give you okay this guy

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Trump he's not gonna he's not gonna impose the Johnson Amendment so pastors you're free to say

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anything you want get out there and evangelize I gave you mercy and go and I can just almost hear

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God saying go go I really do believe that the church is the could be the shining

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star in the next two years if she receives her mantle back

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to preach the word unapologetically boldly boldly without compromise let the word of God

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stand on itself and you know and being loving yeah I mean telling the truth about gender the truth

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about marriage yes that's what being loving is telling the truth right in a gentle way

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but still telling the truth I'm boldly doing it but you know the parables Jesus told there was one

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very entrusted resources to people then he said I'm gonna go away but you do business till I

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return and we know what that means God's given us resources talents maybe a teacher or an artist

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or a musician or a doctor or a preacher or whoever or material resources that's true I've

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entrusted you with resources you use those resources until I return that's right and be on about

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the business of the king because that's the most important thing to be on about the business of

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the king don't hold up treasures for yourself on earth you use what God has entrusted and you know

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there's the other parable where we're entrusted basically money to people and he went away and

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when he came back this one said I invested it and and you know it built up this much and I invest and

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I was too frightened to invest it so I just kept it and and that person was chasing for what he did

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no you were supposed to go and use that right we are to use our talents we are to use the material

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resources that God has given us we're to use what he's given us because there's nothing more

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important than people know Christ nothing yeah absolutely um and can I give you a practical example

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and I know you you talked about you might get some hate mail I might get some hate mail over

435
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this one okay yeah we're an equal opportunity podcast by why say if you're not if you don't have

436
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opposition you should be saying what are you doing yeah I know people have said to us you know if

437
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you stand on the devil's toes he reacts you guys must be kicking them in the shins well good

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good then that's right but can I can I say this um and I want it as a challenge and I don't

439
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again I will say sometimes I have to put so many cabinets in my talk it's 90 percent caveats

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before do you know what I mean because people come up and say but do you you were saying this no

441
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I wasn't saying but you were implying no I wasn't because of the you got to put all these

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caveats in you know but anyway I personally but I want to use the pro life movement as an example

443
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of a problem yeah okay I would say that looking at it from a big picture perspective the pro life

444
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movement overall has really been failing in use and you look what's happened in America it it

445
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hasn't been that successful it's right I'll tell you why I believe that is I have gone and spoken

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of a number of pro life backwards and pro life groups and so on and what I found is a lot of

447
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these pro life groups particularly the bigger ones their main emphasis is saving babies don't give

448
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me wrong they're main emphasis is saving babies but I support the pro life groups their main

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emphasis is teaching them about God's word salvation showing them the love of God and saving babies

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because if you're not ultimately on about the gospel then ultimately it won't work so Ken

451
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I'm honored that the church that that we're at believes in that 100 percent to to this level

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so we're all about saving babies and we're all about saving or changing legislation

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absolutely regarding babies and you talked about stewardship a moment ago we're really big on

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we don't believe a Christian can not vote because in a republic it's an opportunity that God

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has given you and the freedom and there's responsibility to affect the culture by your voting it's not

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just your material and it's not just your hands it's voting also having said that I agree

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having said that when we the ministry that we have here it says this it gives people the gospel

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it goes to the abortion clinics plan parenthood and such and it it's primary foundation and vision

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and word is the gospel this is the reason why you should save your baby exactly okay now watch

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this this is where I'm just thrilled with these people when the mom to be says okay I want my sins

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forgiven and yeah okay I'm gonna save this baby we believe that we should not we should not go

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that far down the road without going all the way meaning a lot of these young kids they don't have

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the wherewithal to bring the baby to full term they don't have the the medicine they don't have the

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care I mean real practical care they don't have the the transportation they don't have the housing

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and we believe that we provide that so much so that it wasn't too long ago some of some of the

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people behind the cameras here might remember it just so happened that this this woman was saved

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at a I mean saves born again at a plan parented here in Southern California she was a young black

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girl who couldn't go home her dad said you're not welcome this home pregnant the guy she doesn't

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know who the guy is she gets saved the church picks her up and starts bringing her to church she

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moves into into into a home with one of the families we've got pictures of her being baptized

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at pirates cove with this big baby belly the baby is born and lo and behold taking care of remarkably

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all this stuff and one of them and that seems to me like every church has got somebody like this

473
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or more one gentleman said I don't want my I don't want my name known I don't want my name anywhere

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but I want to know who this kid is and I want to set up right now a savings account for this child

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and I'm going to deposit this amount of tens of thousands of dollars in this account that it will

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grow and this kid can have access he wrote in all this stuff like it was his own kid

477
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that's the body of Christ doing love you can talk love but when you talk love you better be ready

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to follow through a do love practically absolutely and I mean that's incredible and incredible

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story there which should be a lesson for people you know using your resources to do the business

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let me give you another example in regard to our own ministry okay because I get accused a lot

481
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of times of being oh you're one of those young earth creationists well I actually hate the term

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young earth creationist don't don't get me wrong okay I'm a young earth creationist but I don't

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like people saying it like that I'll tell you why they make out that the most important thing to us

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is young earth it is not that's right the most important thing to us is God's word and the gospel

485
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yeah and now why are we on about a young earth because of the consequence of believing scripture

486
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and why are we against evolution because of what God's word says and so on right and so the reason

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we're in a creation apologetics ministry and dealing with issues of the age of the earth and

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and all of these other things fossils and ape men and and so on is because they're used today to

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attack biblical authority that's right but I've always positioned our home ministry as being

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one about biblical authority in the gospel always you've never encouraged let me add one other

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thing to that a lot of people can and again I'll go put those caveats in you know I need 50 caveats

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right now but a lot of people get enamored by the intelligent design movement okay and there's

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some great scientists in the intelligent design movement and we use intelligent design arguments we

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would use some of their same intelligent design arguments when we talked about DNA you know in

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DNA is an information system and language system and and information only comes from an intelligence

496
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language only comes from intelligence matter can't produce information or code and and so that's

497
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intelligent design there's obviously a designer but the problem with the intelligent design

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movement to me is sort of in a different sort of way analogous to just saving babies yes in other

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words yeah it's not actually an answer you're not going out and telling them who did the

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designer is right and if you don't teach them from God's word they could look at this creation

501
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and say look at all the deaf and suffering and disease and horrible things going on and fires

502
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that destroy all these homes and people die what kind of God is that is it must be an ogre that's

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why we never ever should be divorcing God's word and the gospel from all of the arguments that we're

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using because ultimately that's what it's all about so it's the same in the creation evolution

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issue and then all these moral issues whether it's the gender issue the gay marriage issue the abortion

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issue the euthanasian issue whatever it is we should always be on about God's word and the gospel

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you're making me think I'm gonna this thought just came into my head you've probably already mastered

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this one so with what you just said the gospel is chief among all that we think say and do why

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because it is the eternal answer it's the forever answer and it's the answer that God is looking for

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that said where in your opinion of scripture where was the first

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manifestation of the good news in your opinion Genesis 3 15 yes that's it right there okay wait

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I know that verse but hang on could it be possibly even sooner let me look look I'm being well this

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is scary it's happening right here on film right now I'm experimenting with myself so okay the

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Bible does say Christ was sacrificed before the foundation of the world okay but I'm talking

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that true but okay and everything at the end of Genesis 1 we're told everything was very good

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right so there was everything was very good so in that sense okay we didn't have the gospel so

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when man sinned yep as soon as man fell yep what did God do he said I'm going to treat between you

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in the world you will see it her said he and then Genesis 3 21 that's Genesis 3 20 Genesis 3 21

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really killed animals and gave them coats of skins that's it and that's the setup of the sacrificial

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system okay sorry you are so right I was wrong my when you were talking the

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about the gospel my mind jumped to the first manifestation of the gospel had to be the sacrificial

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animal that covered Adam and Eve that was a forte that was a model but then you correct you

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corrected me and you're exactly correct that came after 3 15 didn't it yes Genesis 3 15

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and it's written in cryptic language right I would feel the Bible being we call it the

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easy word you put the pro to call it the proto evangelism in other words it's the proto gospel

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because I'll put everything you and the woman you'll see it her see it is your bruise your hair

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your bruises heal love it and it's talking about the seed of the woman which we look back now

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and we know is Christ and the battle between the devils offspring and those who are gods right

529
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and then we have the seed of the woman who is Christ and then you'll bruise his heel he you will

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wound him it'll be a fatal wound but he will bruise your head he will conquer you so it's the whole

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gospel in one verse it is so awesome and what's beautiful about that is if I remember right that

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Hebrew word can be translated bruise a crush so you can survive the head of the serpent you can

533
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survive a heel crushing but you cannot survive a head crushing right exactly exactly awesome

534
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wonderful and and you know what else is interesting that's the origin of clothing in Genesis 321

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what do we wear clothes go get clothes because of sin and then when you think about that

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those coats of skins can't take away our sin because the blood of bulls and goats can't take away

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our sin and they can only those clothes only cover our sin so to speak well they covered

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their shame and nicotine which is pointing to the ultimate sacrifice of all Jesus Christ right and

539
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here's another important point why can't the blood of bulls and goats take away our sin because

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we're not connected to the animal kingdom right because man has made an image of God animals

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what is evolution teach we're all connected to the animal kingdom so we've got to make sure we

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teach that man is separate and we actually should have a separate kingdom for man we shouldn't

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put him in the animal kingdom it's true because we need to be teaching our kids in our schools and

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homes use the criterion made in the image of God and man is separated out that's a great

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right kingdom of man the man the man kingdom yeah which which then helps us understand more about

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the abortion issue because we're making the image of God right from fertilization and this

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was pointing to the ultimate sacrifice usually sacrifice animals over and over again thousands

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tens of thousands but they couldn't take away our sin that's why God's son called the last

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Adam takes a place of the first Adam this is important where you said he said that correct folks

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there's the first Adam there's the last Adam there's not the first Adam and the second Adam if

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you have a first Adam and a second Adam you can have a third Adam he was Adam was the first

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Adam and Jesus was the last Adam there's not another Messiah going there's not another Savior

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there's no no no another another Adam he he is called the second man because there are

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only two perfect men Adam and Christ but there's only one last Adam you take a place for the

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first Adam to the first Adam sin came death through the last Adam's death comes life and then as

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Christians we're clothed in the righteousness of the Lord Jesus Christ which covers ours

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right and so the picture in Genesis clothed in animal skins at first by sacrifice

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pointing to the fact we need to be clothed in the righteousness of the Lord Jesus Christ which is why

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I believe we wear white robes before the throne of God you know it's interesting I don't know if

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this is true and I mean so in our journey to Israel we've been many many times somewhere along

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that route like we're prone to do is get into discussions with rabbis certainly by the

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whaling wall or the old city you'll bump into a rabbi conversations will be struck up and so

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years ago I thought this was fascinating years ago and think about think about first John as I say

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this first John walking the light as he is in the light so these rabbis were saying that Adam and Eve

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they walked with God in the garden which is so you and I get that immediately that you they walked

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with Christ they walked with God it's relational no religion involved I think it was the first

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theophany I do too you know it's only thing that makes sense and so they believed they told us

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they believe that Adam and Eve though they had no clothing on they were clothed in light because

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God is light and they believe that they wore light and you think about well that's that's crazy

570
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well wait a minute we now come post atonement post resurrection where God has given us his restoration

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project right of sanctification by the Holy Spirit all that's all that wonderful work that he's

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doing but work of redemption yes but all that takes place all that all that takes place because we

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walk with him now and you think about how you and I yes were clothed in his righteousness but

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I want to believe what those old rabbis had said how cool is that that Adam and Eve when they ate the

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fruits something went out something the some I mean no clothes fell off of them something happened

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for them to say oh my gosh are we naked it's amazing to think yeah something happened something

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happened for them to say well let's go hide we have to sew fig leaves together to hide out

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they were no longer clothed in line you said something there too if I again you know I don't

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know how much more time I got it but I know I'd like to go for hours but anyway so you said they

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looked at the fruit and can I tell you what I think a big problem we have today because what

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was Adam and Eve's sin you know the devil came and said did God really say okay so God said

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to Adam and of course Adam gets the blame for sin that's why through Adam sin can't be

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dead because he was given the instruction not to eat the food of the tree right and he was there

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when Eve took the fruit probably I don't know I sometimes thought what was he doing now still

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yeah or he was saying you know because the Bible says and his husband who was with her she was saying

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Adam I'm gonna eat this Adam are you listening or I'm gonna eat this oh he was there saying well see if

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she dies or she doesn't die then you know if she does I'll just you God to make me another one you know

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but anyway the Bible says they looked at the fruit she looked at the fruit and it was good to the

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eyes here's we tend to be if I can explain what I mean by this evidentialist at heart because of

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that sin nature of Adam here's what we tend to do we look at the evidence and try to interpret it

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ourselves instead of starting with God's word to interpret it no don't touch it don't eat it don't

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eat it that was the instruction don't eat it but when did she eat it if you think about it right

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is this where you're going no I was I was going to a different place so so they looked at the

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evidence instead of looking to God's word and interpreting the evidence on the basis of God's

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word what pretend to do because most churches haven't trained us to think in a true biblical

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worldview starting from God's word how do you fit dinosaurs with the Bible how do you fit death

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and suffering with with alarming God how do you fit fossils with the Bible no you don't look at

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the evidence and take man's interpretation which many do and then just and then they say well

599
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Genesis can't be true you've got to start from God's word to interpret it there's some good people

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that love the Lord but they get their science ahead of their theology well then it depends what

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you mean by science okay take that back you're exactly correct that was that I shouldn't have

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said it that way because science will be an absolute harmony with the words true science you know

603
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in on the 4th of February 2025 it was the 11th anniversary and when I debated Bill Nye the Science

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guy at the creation museum wow so who did not watch that if you've not seen that you got to see it

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and what first thing I did was he used he said this is science versus the Bible I said no you

606
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got to find the word science good science comes from the latin ciancia which means to know science

607
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means knowledge and then I said there's two types of knowledge when it comes to using the word

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science there's knowledge about the past when you weren't there you beliefs about the past

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in other words you beliefs about origins right but there's knowledge again using your five

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senses to enable you to to repeat your observations and build technology that's right and what's

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happened in our culture people have been brainwashed because the secularists use one word science

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for millions of years and evolution and the same word science for our technology and people

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have brainwashed into thinking if I don't believe in evolution of millions of years I'm rejecting

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the science and build technology instead of understanding wait a minute the word science is

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knowledge and just because a scientist may be good at building some you know a jet airplane

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or a space shuttle or computer doesn't mean you can believe what they say about origins because

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that's totally different and remember you can't ignore the fact that a scientist is not a

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neutral person in a white lab coat searching for truth they are people who have have viruses

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they are people who have a sinful heart and they're not they're they're hard if they're not

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regenerate and trusting the Lord even those who do still have this problem that we need to

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continue to look at his word because our heart won't doesn't want us to search for truth.

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I so believe what you just said that now it's my turn to get in trouble somebody may be highly

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intelligent but have no wisdom in applying what they know to this argument because

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if if you think about it if someone does not have that biblical worldview foundation not the

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not brainwashing some were talking about we're talking about an actual biblical worldview foundation

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much like John Adams saying this constitution this government in America only works for a moral

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and a religious people it is wholly inadequate for the governance of any other think about that

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for a moment what's the foundation according to John Adams this government's not going to work

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unless you are a moral people and a religious people it's not going to work think about if someone

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does not have a biblical worldview foundation and they approach science they immediately have a

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problem because what you just said and I'll sum up is can you repeat it can it can we build from it

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is it really something that is reliable they come in not even caring about that they come in because

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they're going to try to find bits and pieces to back up their anti-god view no matter what they have

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to do and so here's my here I guess here's my statement I wanted to make when you look back at

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Newton and others who had a biblical worldview foundation they had no they didn't they didn't come

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to the data to attack it they came into that they were they were discovering they were like

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they were like travelers arriving at this discovery of information and they interpreted through the

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existence of this grand designer this grand god this redemptive god this loving god this

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caring god and wasn't it the prochipia that that somebody had asked Newton something to the effect

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well now that you've written this and it's so stunning the spectacular um this is explained

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away god and he said it's the exact opposite because science doesn't science only tells you

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how things work and Newton you know as class is the greatest scientist of all time and I forget I'm

643
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sort of trying to think of my brain was either Newton or Johannes Kepler I think it was Newton who said

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we're just thinking god's thoughts after him there was one of those who said that and you know that

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fits with what is scripture say the fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge the fear of the

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Lord is the beginning of wisdom and I'm always it reminded and this this this can sort of sum up

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what I mean saying here with you too I'm reminded of Job because I think every one of us has to

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get to the position Job got to because if you think what happened all these things happened to Job

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and he had you know a lot of wrong advice from people and then he basically wanted to justify

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who he was before God you know what we're a pretty good person and you know someone and God said

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Job yeah listen to this and so on Job 38 39 40 41 he goes through do you know this you know that

652
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were you there when this happened can you do this can you do that what about this this do you know

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this and then in 42 it's so important I think for every single Christian to get to this position

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42 Job says I've seen things and so but now I see you for who you are you can do all things

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you know you know everything I know I know nothing compared to you I repent in dust and ashes

656
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we have all got to that position because you know pride puffs up and the Bible says big

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probably have his pride we think we know a lot right knowledge puffs up and we've all got to

658
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get this position that compared to God you can have a million PhDs and you know nothing compared

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to God that we have got to say I've got to let you be God I got to start from your word you know

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I've had these theologians some of them say to me well you know how can you have how can you have

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light before the sun I mean day one it says there you know let they be light and and if you take

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the Bible literally God didn't make the sun till day four well light can have different sources

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whatever well and he is light but and here's my question could not an infinite creator God who's

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all powerful who knows everything when he says let they be light why can't I believe let

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they be light exactly because he did it exactly so what's wrong with that that's right you know

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I don't have to have when they say where the light come from I say what God doesn't tell us but

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he said they what he said so so why can't we all want it just seems people want this natural

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explanation for everything and so funny because they think it'd be littles their intelligence when

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they I can't believe that's silly right well how did well how did Jesus raised us from the dead

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I mean he had to he had to restore all these DNA all his muscle time right all the connection

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between the eye and the brain or how do you do that I have no idea how he did that except he did

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it he did it and he said he's come forth because he's gone he's got he can do anything he wants

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and he doesn't have to he doesn't have to answer to us and that's why we've got to start from his

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word yep to build our worldview for many Christians the Bible is a book of spiritual things moral

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things relationships out here that they sort of try to add to their thinking or like many many

676
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Christian schools take secular textbooks and try to add God from the top of course they do it's horrible

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you've got to start from the foundation of God's word to build a true biblical worldview yeah

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absolutely awesome can it's been a pleasure can you tell the people because I want everybody to go

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why should people come to the creation museum and why should people see the arc and counter

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well the creation museum and the arc and counter are the two leading Christian theme

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detractions in the world no doubt and they really make the Bible come alive for all ages

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and not only that but we have all sorts of exhibits and all sorts of ways that answer the questions

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that cause people to doubt God's word you know I call Genesis 3 1 you know where says did God

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really say I say that's the Genesis 3 attack and there's been Genesis 3 attacks down through the

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ages it's always an attack on God's word but manifests itself in different ways because a devil

686
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changes the way does it's the same the same attack God's word but changes the way it's done

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and in our era particularly since the 1800s there's been an incredible attack on Genesis 1 to 11

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because the teaching of evolution millions of years has permeated the world and so all those

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questions people I say how do you know there's a God and how could know I get the animals on the

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arc and well where to come get his wife and what about the eight men and how explain fossils and

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what about the dating methods and what about the ice age and the dyes so we go through all of that

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actually the museum is a whole walk through the Bible and then we have the most powerful pro

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life exhibit in the world we have a 4d theater and a planetarium and an insectarium and a dinosaur

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exhibit and we we just opened the only conservatory in the world that exhibits a plants of the

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Bible full mass of glass greenhouses and it presents a gospel just what we saw just what we saw

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at the museum regarding your grounds the gardens they're beautiful I mean seriously you can just

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pull one leaf off of any of those ferns or those trees or whatever and put under a microscope you

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you'd have to walk away seeing God you're amazing yeah exactly absolutely awesome exactly and you know

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we also and we have a lot more there as well we have an abysip lines because you know Christians

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can have fun too I love your zip lines and then at the arc encounter a life size Noah's arc

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built to the dimensions in the Bible it's one and a half times a length of a football field half

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the width of a football field and it stands ten stories height about three points three million

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boardfeet of timber you can walk through all three decks 130 exhibits answering questions presenting

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the gospel and we have a zoo we have a zoo at the creation museum we do live animal programs

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from biblical worldview we have a zoo and live animal programs and children's zoo at the arc

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encounter we have a carousel we have a virtual reality ride we have auditoriums at both places

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do concerts do programs during the day teaching programs and you know what's interesting

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we from statistics from research we've done 30% of those who come are non-Christians

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and if you just take the archa load right between the arc in the creation museum right now we're

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getting about 1.5 million total visits a year as people come from all over the world I've been

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there and seen Sikhs Buddhists Hindus Muslims Orthodox Jews Menonites Amish Catholic nuns all

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sorts of priests Orthodox priests even Baptists even Baptist even Calvary even Calvary

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and Calvary people an odd United Methodist or to say we saw these people but you know what we

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do all sorts of different things but the whole purpose of them is to say God's Word is true

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and the gospel based in God's Word is true you can't go away having not heard the gospel

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the research that we've done thousands and thousands and thousands people research to

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bend to the arc and the creation museum just the arch alone do you know how many have said

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that they committed their life to the Lord Jesus Christ became Christians because they came just

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to the ark not even the church museum I don't know but I'm not surprised 6.3% which works out

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to be over 60,000 a year oh my gosh how many how many other places are seeing that so no no

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nobody sees the impact it is amazing it's amazing and you know we do during the year we do the

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biggest Christian music festival in the world 40 days of Christian music we bring in these artists

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and we do a concert at three o'clock then we do 30 minutes Bible teaching presentation of the

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gospel and then another concert and we do that for 40 days at the ark and last year and we

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challenge people to trust Christ for salvation at the end of that 30 minute Bible teaching time

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and because their hearts have been prepared they've already been to the ark and so on last year

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just from that challenge and we give them a Bible and so on and it's it we believe those

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commitments are sincere there were 2,500 committed their lives to the Lord just at those

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just at those concerts in 40 days and over 60,000 a year as a statistics for the ark and then there's

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those at the museum as well it is happening incredible impact absolutely well listen friends you do

731
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I'm not kidding you really need to go to these two locations they're when you go there you need

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to make some good plans because it's a they're they're a little bit of a distance from each other

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something like 40 45 minutes 45 minutes apart this region of Kentucky Kentucky is absolutely

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gorgeous and beautiful I believe you fly into Cincinnati if you're going to be taken in an airplane

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yep so Cincinnati at puts in Kentucky you know I didn't know that people people people get confused

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yeah well we landed I thought I've never been to Ohio before and the guy said you're still not

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in Ohio this is Kentucky the creation the creation museum is in northern Kentucky and since

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in 80 airports 10 minutes from the museum in Kentucky you got to go make it a family thing just go

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you will not be disappointed you'll be radically impressed the things that well I put it to people

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this way forgive me for for saying it this way but when people say should I go well have you been

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to Disneyland oh yeah and I said well listen then you must go because Disney's got nothing on

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the arc encounter or the creation museum I mean that literally there are the the technology that

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you guys employ the the the the the attractions the whole thing quality and everything and when

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non-work zero well just fact and awesome so how do people stay in touch with you how do

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the people find out more well they can go to answers and genesis dot org answers in genesis dot

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org is our main website and if they want to find out about the creation museum or the arc

747
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encounter they can just google us we have you know arcencounter dot com creation museum dot org

748
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but answers and genesis dot org is our main website now tell you something else we're doing

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right now there'll be great for the kids at your school great for families is to do we we have

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now got AI on our website answers and genesis dot org so that if you log in and do an account

751
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for an account just need to email address in the password that's it and you get an account and so

752
01:09:08.440 --> 01:09:13.560
you're logged in there's a little chat box comes up and so your children can go on there and say

753
01:09:13.640 --> 01:09:21.480
how to know get the animals on the arc or whatever and AI oh wow AI only is it's only confined to

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our our all the thousands of articles you guys control that AI to control them because we've

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fenced it in nice and the AI will go and summarize the articles and give you a little answer

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and so great for your kids to use this so so this can be used homeschoolers and absolutely

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01:09:38.600 --> 01:09:44.760
teachers of brave anybody yeah i didn't know that yeah that's awesome um it's just we're still

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developing it's sort of in the body of testing page but it's working really well so great i we

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got to wrap this up rather than too much fun i remember walking through somewhere you were taking us

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and there's this huge screen and you can see people placing orders from various parts of the world

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you can see an order coming in from Shanghai or from Sydney do you remember when i'm at you

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it's like a film center where it shows it shows all the people coming to our websites and it

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makes us it'll show you where they're going on our website and what provides they're using

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a sign and by the way we do ship out materials from our warehouses it's it's not amazon size

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uh we have many amazon but you know what you know amazon doesn't have an art it used to be that uh

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we would you know have the UPS fans and FedEx and then back up now we have tractor trailers back up

767
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there's so much material got pallets of material impacting people every day all over the world

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amazing absolutely amazing so you guys we've been talking to Ken Ham is the CEO and founder of answers

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and Genesis you've got to find them on the web you've got to go visit them um just love love the

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the commitment to the word of God let the word of God speak to you and so um love this guy

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love what he's doing and so listen as always it's time uh we believe that it's time for you to

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live out what you believe in that it's time for real life so God bless you in your walk with Jesus

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always amen thank you thank you

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