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Real life presents the Jack Kibs podcast with intention and boldness to proclaim

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truth, equip the saints and impact our culture. Hey you guys in this subcombing

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podcast episode we're going to be shifting gears a little bit and answering

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questions that have come in over the last several weeks on our topic of the

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End Time events.

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You can get the outlines of this podcast by going to Jack Kibs.com slash podcast.

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Today if this podcast lifts you up and encourages you to live a more fulfilled

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listen. Now open your hearts to what God's word has to say to you. Here is Jack

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Kibs. Hey you guys welcome to Real Life podcast and we are continuing on really

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because it's been driven by you which we're very excited about. I have to tell

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you that I'm a great beneficiary, a recipient of a Bible teaching church. I

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was spiritually born and raised at a verse by verse chapter by chapter book by

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book church and so for me I am grateful to you. So many of you are saying I never

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heard this before. I've never even read that in the Bible before and that really

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helps me because I'm very guilty of making assumptions. I thought everybody knows

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this to somebody who reads their Bible. If somebody says I read my Bible I assume

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that they read it all the way through but apparently I'm wrong and that's

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that's fine but let's fix that because the topics that we are mentioning

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regarding the last days events I was absolutely overwhelmed to hear. Even

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yesterday I was at a political event. I say a political event. I was asked to

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a comment and to pray at one of our cities here in the area at the invite of the

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mayor to pray and to make a comment and what was amazing to me was how many

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people came up to me. They just so happened to be every one of them happened to

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be Catholics who came up to me and said and I didn't know who they were. Pastor Jack

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I've been watching your podcast and that caused me to watch your three-part

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series on your Sunday morning message, sermon on what are the coming signs of

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the Antichrist and I have been born and raised Catholic and we don't even

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read the book of Revelation. We're not even in fact we're told to stay out of

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the book of Revelation which is oh my gosh satanic. Book of Revelation says

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you're supposed to read it yourself and hear it read by others and the book of

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Revelation of itself says do not seal up the prophecies of this book but proclaim

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them and it's a tragedy. I'm not beating up on Catholics. I love Catholics in

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fact. In fact the church that I pastor it's got to be 75% either Catholic or

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former Catholic in congregation because they've simply fallen love with the

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word of God the Bible and so we're gonna do things a little bit different in

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this particular segment of end time installment events but before we do that

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let me say this. Some of the comments that we've received from people I can't take

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the time to entertain them. They're good questions but please hear me. You're

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asking for example can you dig deeper on or give more information on the post

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tribulation rapture view? I've said enough about it why don't you study it and

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find out for yourself. The same question is being asked for mid-trip. Somebody

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just talked me on Sunday. Can you explain to me the mid-trip position? I did on

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a Sunday during services and 15 minutes later the person still didn't get it.

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There's nothing I can do about that except for you to be provoked to go

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study deeper. I want to spare you guys a lot of grief. I've said it before I'll

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say it again. It is an epic book. In fact it's in it's it's in my leather bag by

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Jack by Dr. John Woolfred. It's the book you want to get because John

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Woolfred in this book it's it's a decent publication it's in depth. Small print

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Dr. John Woolfred wrote this book the rapture question revised and enlarged

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edition and Dr. John Woolfred wrote this in response to the questions that you

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and I are going through. This is epic. Why? Because even those who are for

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example pre-rath or mid or post-tribulationist he argues all the views from

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their position and I believe it was Marvin Rosenthal I could be wrong on that

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but I think post-tribulationist Marvin Rosenthal even commented that John

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Woolfred argues the post-tribulation rapture view better than any post-tribulationist

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does but make no mistake about it. Dr. John Woolfred is a a pre-tribulationist

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and he'll tell you why many of you've asked the questions what's what the

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seven years you keep saying it's all about Israel read this book so encourage

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you to get this I don't know where you get it get it where it's cheap or they

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say Jackibs.com Jackibs.com or wherever you can get it cheaper so anyway here

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we go listen we're gonna dive in with with the questions and then we'll see

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how this goes and we're just going to start calling this our mailbag or mail

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call okay so question number one from last week is please will you explain

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this who are the ten virgins waiting for the return of the bridegroom okay

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first of all Jesus gave that parable and he said he he couched it in very

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important listen he couched it in the context of the region of Galilee he was

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in Galilee when he taught it this is this is this is really important he taught

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it while he was in Galilee that's northern Israel he taught it because the

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Galileans would have understood what he was talking about he taught it to the

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Galileans in the Galilean region because he pointed out to them the practice of

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a Galilean engagement and a Galilean wedding that is really important I might

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want to recommend to you watching the documentary on Amazon Prime titled

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before the wrath look I know the producer I think it's a bad title the title's

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dumb but it should have just said you know before before the second coming or

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something it talks about a Galilean wedding that's key and it deals with

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beautifully the ten virgins and having oil ready so listen to answer your

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question you ask is it is it the church is this the church or the five wise

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those who are truly trying to keep God's commandments and walk his walk are the

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five of those who claim to Jesus but are the other five those who claim to

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believe in Jesus but live in sin it's this Jesus is simply teaching that he's

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gonna go away and all the Galileans would have said we understand how that works

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when you when you get engaged here in Galilee the bridegroom goes away and he

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prepares on top of the house that's how they do it they are still to this day

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many places on top of the home your new home for your bride so you build on your

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father's house and it's what they do it house top house top house top and so

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he's gonna go away he's gonna prepare a place for them and when that when

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it's ready by the way the father is the one who tells the son your your

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buildings complete looks great son go getter then the father who communicates

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that to the son remember Jesus said nobody knows the time of my coming nobody

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the angels don't know I don't know only my father knows all the Galileans would

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have went wow that's awesome that's just how that's exactly how we do that he's

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now Jesus is in heaven resurrected and does he know I don't think he knows I

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think he chooses not to know I just think he chooses not to know he's gonna

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hear his father say it's time to go did her when he comes he's coming for those

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who are waiting how do you know because he says throughout the entire four

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gospels and the epistles of the apostles stress that we need to be waiting

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because we don't know when eminency eminency boy I'm shocked at how many

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people vehemently commented I disagree with the doctrine of

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eminency that's your problem it's in the Bible so I don't care he's gonna come

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back on an hour that you're not thinking you don't know the day or the hour

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but he said concerning the times and the seasons that's a general comment those

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who are walking in the light will have a general feel wow the Lord's got to be

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coming back soon so the virgins were waiting they're waiting for what they're

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waiting for the what is known as or described as the midnight call meaning

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midnight symbolically meaning it could come at any time when you're least

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expected you're supposed to be sleeping at midnight well the parable is a

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parable to communicate true that doesn't mean the virgins that the that had

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oil all all of the all the five that had oil didn't go to sleep you sleep you

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work you eat you do your life but the issue is are you full of the Holy Spirit

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are you obeying the scripture and are you ready and when the announcement goes

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out will you will you make it so that your follow up or your next question is

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is it the church who is that it's not the church although the principal

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applies for all of us to be ready that applies to every age of living believers

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to be ready the Old Testament saints were to be ready to die by trusting in the

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God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob the church age saints are to be ready for his

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appearing and if we die before his appearing we die ready make sense during the

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tribulation period the tribulation saints need to be ready to either die for

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their faith in Christ or for the remnant they'll survive and live into the

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millennium the point is this the ten are invited to the wedding which answers

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one of the questions by the way is is the church invited to the wedding the answer

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is no the church is not invited to the wedding the church the believers the

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trip the the church age saints are not invited to the wedding I always love

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saying that because it gets people what the church is the wedding the church is

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not invited to the wedding there is no wedding without the church and the

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groom who's invited people like this the Old Testament saints are invited the

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tribulation saints are invited the listen at this at the end of the second

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coming I but this is my opinion this is my opinion I right now this is my

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opinion everything else I've told you is biblically sound I speculate right now

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when I look at Isaiah 26 verses 19 to 21 when I look at the things of the

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Galilean wedding when I see what's happening during the tribulation period I

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understand that the church has taken up into heaven and at some point after that

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we don't know when the tribulation period begins I believe in Isaiah 26 19 to

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21 when he says come up here and hide yourself as it were in the chambers

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those are wedding chambers in the chambers for a little while isn't that

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amazing this is Isaiah 26 he's he's gonna say to his people now remember if

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you're trusting Christ you're you're his people and if you're Jewish and you

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trust Christ's Lord as Yeshua Hamashia that's that's you do he says come up

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here oh and by the way your dead shall live together with my dead body shall

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they arise so come my people enter into the chambers hide yourself for just a

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little moment while I pour out my indignation upon the earth we mentioned that

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last time that's where he gets his robe splattered in blood the Lord will go

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and fight for Israel as he fought in the day of battle it says notice he's not

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going to come back to earth during the tribulation period and fight for the

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church he's fighting for Israel where are we we are in our wedding chamber what

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are we doing I think we are preparing for the last few moments before the

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wedding I believe that our wedding takes place some moment sometime after the

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the tribulation saints that die are resurrected because I believe that they

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attend the wedding they attend they're invited I hope that answers your

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questions again Dr. John Wolver would comment more on that does the

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tribulation start at the signing of the treaty spoken of by Daniel with the

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Antichrist in Israel or is it the rapture of the church the tribulation period

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does not begin with the rapture of the church it does not that we just know

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this it's the signing of the treaty in Daniel 9 that commences the

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tribulation period now let me say this because it gets a little foggy and I

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know it's it's it's kind of contradictory what I'm saying a bit because you and I

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think on a timeline that is linear we like things nice and neat I want to see

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this and this and this in a box and it's clear and it's clean let me put it in a

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general general you know I'm trying to say generality it's this way right now

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we're living the church we're being used by the Holy Spirit to restrain evil in

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the world it's the spirit of God's power through us second Thessalonians to

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doing that but when he steps aside and he deposits that deposits us in the

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hands of Jesus that is called the rapture second Thessalonian first

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Thessalonians chapter four you know this and John 14 you already know this

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that the the day of the day of Christ has happened the day of Christ triggers

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the day of the Lord but we don't know is it five minutes after the day of the

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Lord begins that the Antichrist is seen on CNN or Fox or worldwide news

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broadcast we don't know I personally believe that the intrigue of the end times

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if it's a fact that he rises out of the ancient Roman Empire that's the

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Remnant of it the tentos then he he may be somebody that we don't know but we

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start to see a European based leadership that starts to take dominance as a

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church we could see that could we see the implementation of the cashless

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system we could see that we could see even implantable or or data chips or

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stuff we could see that it doesn't mean the tribulation has begun doesn't mean

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the Antichrist doesn't mean anything it means we're just deeper into the last

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days but this we know that the church must be gone because the seven years is

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God dealing with Israel and and remember an unbelieving world number two he

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will preserve the Remnant Israel and he will also promise and guarantee to

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deliver the believers who die in faith during the tribulation period to come

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in to come into to heaven to enter his presence be faithful and to death was a

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word and it's still viable today for the last two thousand years be

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faithful and to death and I'll give you the crown of life Jesus said that's

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true for all believers of all age of all the ages but having said that listen

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the Antichrist when he apparently according to the book of Daniel and Matthew

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24 begin another round verse 15 when the Antichrist signs the treaty it

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appears that the seven year treaty Daniel 924 to 27 is also maybe under like

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page 9 as they go through the treaty I mean I'm being silly but I'm not it might

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be hey right here in page 9 sign the treaty everybody and oh by the way right

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here in page 9 sign right here because this this is the building permit for the

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temple in Jerusalem how do we know that well we know this that Israel's gonna

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want that temple they're talking about it now but we know this at the

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midpoint 1,260 days from the signing of the treaty 1,260 days the Bible says 42

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months other translations reference it or 3 and a half years at that point the

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Antichrist stands in the temple and declares himself to be God that triggers

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the last three and a half years of the tribulation period which is an

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extremely horrific time so the church could be raptured today the signing of

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the peace treaty could take place next week next year three years from now 10

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years from now we don't know but we do know that the signing or the

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revelation of the Antichrist in signing the seven year tribulation period is

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graphically referenced in Daniel chapter 9 and Matthew 24 so that's very

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very important it's a great question by the way final one is this and it says

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that Hi Pastor Jack I've got a question I was hoping you could help me with

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this if a person believes on or I guess you're saying in the atoning blood of

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Jesus Christ for their salvation yes during the tribulation period that means

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the tribulation saints not church age saints I assume then they'll become a

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tribulation saint you assume correct what happens though if they then take the

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mark of the beast they won't they will not why because there's their profound

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contradictory their contradiction there the Bible says all those whose names

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were not written in the book of life received the mark of the beast so your

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question is a contradiction it can't happen they'll they will accept Christ

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during the tribulation period they will most likely die for their faith in

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Jesus death of some means some will be beheaded some will starve to death some

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will die of natural causes some will die because they might have cancer some

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will die because they get hit by a truck or somebody punches them out because

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they're witnessing and during the tribulation period it doesn't matter the

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point is they will not receive the mark no believer will receive the mark of

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the beast it's impossible do they forfeit their salvation no they die for their

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salvation they die for Christ so in the church age it's once saved always saved but

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is that the case during the tribulation period can I just rephrase your

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question because the ones phrased always I'm I mean one saved always saved is

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like red meat to people in a debate let's let's make it really clear once born

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again forever born again the question is are you born again let's not talk about

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one saved always saved because that's that is a subjective response well I think

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he was saved my friend was saved I got a friend he went to the crusade he went

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to church he raised his hand I don't care any about that stuff that stuff's

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junk listen there's a lot of people who believe there's a lot of people who

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attend every single church who believe but they're not saved they believe like

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the demons do like Satan does but they're not saved their belief never took

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them to the place of faith in Christ very important the question should be

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asked if you're born again are you always born again and the answer from

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scriptures and overwhelming yes but is this the case during the tribulation

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period multi part and conditional salvation no no such thing new rules

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requirements for salvation question mark they have no not at all it's always as

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it was with Adam and Eve all the way through to the last person during the

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trip to the last person making a decision for Christ during the millennial

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age it's faith in Christ no works who are the guests at the wedding if it's not

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us and I thought I answered that the Old Testament saints I I did the Old

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Testament saints tribulation saints so those are great questions listen we've

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been into this 22 minutes I hate the shortness of these things but I hope these

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are helping you and again I'm a big fan of John Woolford dot com John

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Woolford dot com I'm a big fan of his book it's they changed it's the publisher

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changed his title used to be called 1000 prophecies of the Bible they

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changed it to the the prophecy I think it's called a prophecy knowledge handbook

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I think by doctor John Woolford it's only about this thick don't let that

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fool you it's a it's a reference book of every book in chapter of the

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Bible what prophetic content is there it's overwhelming every Christian should

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have that book and again I don't know where to get it but get it cheap

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somewhere the prophecy knowledge handbook by doctor John Woolford it's a

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Christian classic you if you're if you're a pre-post or all millennial or if

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