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Real life presents the Jack Kibs podcast with intention and boldness to proclaim

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truth, equip the saints and impact our culture. Everybody we're gonna get into

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the rapture of the church, is it even real? Where is it in the Bible? Is Christ

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coming back? Is he coming back again? Let's find out. It's very specific. Hit

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your Bible. Let's go.

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You can get the outlines of this podcast by going to Jack Kibs.com slash

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encourage others to listen. Now open your hearts to what God's word has to say to

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you. Here is Jack Kibs. Hey, you guys. Welcome to our ongoing podcast. How

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about that? It's an ongoing podcast and we're gonna be having a great time

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together. So once again, welcome to the Jack Kibs podcast. Encouraging all of

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you that if you would like to share this with others or hit subscribe, we would

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love for you to do that, of course. And but listen, we wound up embarking upon

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an unintended unplanned trip, which is some of the greatest trips of all. When

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you head down the street to go get a cart in a milk and you'll wind up driving

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down coast highway and the whole world changes. And that's very fun and

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beautiful. That's what's happened regarding our topic when we're looking at

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the end times events. And where does the rapture of the church fit in? The

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reason why I'm excited about is because we received tons of mail. Can I

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call email mail, right? Just mail. I mean, nobody looked to stamp or

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anything. We got sent a bunch of mail. And this is very, very cool. And it

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covered the broad spectrum of everything that you can imagine. And I have

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no doubt that we've received comments from pre and post millennialist, all

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millennials for sure. We had responses from people who said there is no

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rapture, your nuts. Some people said explain it more. I'm interested. Some

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people got all lathered up about it, which is hilarious. Some people said,

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you're teaching false doctrine by teaching a pre tribulation rapture. Okay,

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you need to back off the steroids or something that's insane because

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there are great men and women of God who have taught a pre and post

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tribulation rapture view. And so you need to dial it down because you've

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kind of made that like your little cult thing. Okay, so you don't want to do

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that. The bottom line is, if you're trusting in the blood of Jesus Christ to

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get you to heaven and plus nothing else, if you've repented of your sins and

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made him the Lord and savior of your life, in other words, are you following

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Jesus today? Are you obeying him? Okay, pre, mid or post rapture view that you

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might have is irrelevant compared to when the rapture takes place, you're

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going to go up or when you slip on a banana, fall and break your neck and die,

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you're going to go see him. So let's just remember that we can debate and argue

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beautifully the placement of the rapture. But reason why we brought this up is

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because I personally have no doubt when the rapture is not the day or the hour

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that's only a lunatic would see such a thing. Nobody knows that. Nobody knows

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the day or the hour. But I used to be, as I mentioned before in the previous

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podcast, I used to be a post tribulationist. And that's a hard sell. It was tough,

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spent about three years doing that. And you got to really mess around with the

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identity of Israel. You got to mess around with the identity of the church.

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And you've got to redefine words like wrath. You've got to redefine certain

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words like indignation. And it's a hard sell. So that shouldn't offend any of

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you. That's one of the things I'm grateful about this particular podcast is

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that it's really ruffled some feathers. And I don't want to ruffle your feathers

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to be ruffling feathers. I want to, if ruffle in your feathers leads you to

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greater Bible study, then this is awesome. Okay. So listen, we're going to jump

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in here and, and here's where we're going to start with this. Everybody get

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ready. Write it down if you would. The Cummins plural of Jesus Christ. There's

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only two. I want you to write this down. The Cummins. Number one and number

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two are found in Daniel chapter nine. Daniel chapter nine, more specifically

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Daniel nine versus 24 to 27. Okay. So watch first coming Jesus comes on

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anybody know? Anybody know? Palm Sunday Palm Sunday was the first coming of

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Jesus Christ. Remember, we said this before, not the baby born in Bethlehem.

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That's not his first coming. His first coming is when he's presented to Israel

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as king. He comes riding on the back in the first coming on the little donkey.

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Zachariah nine nine. The fulfillment of that. He presents himself as king. It's

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the only time in Jesus' earthly ministry where he allows himself to be

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acknowledged and worshiped as king. The spectators who are there on Palm

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Sunday are laying down their garments and palm branches, shouting and praising

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Hosanna, Hosanna blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord. Now, this is

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critical friends. Listen, take a deep breath, calm down some of you, tie this

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together. Jesus said as they were rejoicing, he's weeping. Jesus says in Matthew

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23, he says, Oh, Jerusalem, Jerusalem, if you'd only known this day, the

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peace that awaits you, but you are not willing for behold, your house is left

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you desolate. He no doubt pointed to the temple to the left hand side as he's

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coming down the mound of olives. Your house is left you desolate. And you won't

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see me again until you say blessed is see who comes in the name of the Lord.

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Class, who did he say that to? Where was he at? And what event is he

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referencing? In the middle of his first coming down the all of it or the mound

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of olives, he announces, you failed to recognize today was a day that Daniel

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spoke to you about you missed it. No, not everybody missed it, but the national

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leaders, the religious leaders, they missed it. When he says you're not going to

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see me again until you bless until you say blessed is you who comes in the name

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of the Lord. That is taken right out of the book of Psalms. And Jesus says the

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ultimate fulfillment of that is going to be when you see me coming again from

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this mountain top on the back of a horse this time, I will not be coming back

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fulfilling Zechariah 9.9. I'm going to be coming back fulfilling the ladder

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end of the book of Isaiah. And I'm going to be coming back mound of olives

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coming out of the east toward the west, which is fascinating. That's exactly

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how it's set up in Israel. And he says, when that happens, my foot, for

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example, is going to touch the mound of olives, it's going to split into. And

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I'm going to enter in through the triumphal gate or the eastern gate. And he

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is going to be hailed by the believing Jews in that moment. At that time, when

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they cry out and say, blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord. Here he

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is. So the first coming as a physical coming of Jesus Christ on an animal

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presented as king to Jerusalem, which is in Israel. Everybody got that? To the

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Jewish people. Get out some water, please. Thank you. The second coming is very

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much the same way. Comes to the nation of Israel, comes to the city of

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Jerusalem, comes to the Jewish people, presents himself as king, establishes

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his kingdom. Why? He must sit on the throne of David for how long? Anybody

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know? In fact, it's so important that if Jesus does not sit on the throne of

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David, in Jerusalem is where it's at. Then we've got the wrong Jesus. Of course,

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I'm being sarcastic. We've got the right Jesus. But this is very important.

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Establish this first coming physical to Israel, the Jew. Second coming,

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physical return to Israel and to the Jew. You got that? Both deal with his kingship.

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Both deal with his establishment of his kingdom. The grand pause is these last 2000 years.

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Between those two events has been 2000 years. And what that means is what we know from

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the Bible, from the epistles, from the book of Acts, from the entire New Testament.

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In fact, Old Testament as well, is this is the church age period of time.

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This is where God has been gathering together to himself a people who, the scripture says in Isaiah,

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a people who were not his people, who God says, you will become my people and I will become your

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referencing the Gentile world. And hello, say hi to you if you're if you're one who trusts in

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the Lord Jesus Christ. So let's make very, very important separation to physical

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comings to Israel in bodily form. The nation has got to be in existence for both of them.

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There's got to be Jews in Israel for that to take place. And that's extremely, extremely

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necessary. There's no moving around that. If you start to jostle the meaning of who are what is

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Israel and you begin to replace it with the church, you've got serious problems in your theology

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that leads you to a post tribulation conclusion. And that's unfortunate. A little bit about this.

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Jesus says that and the apostles teach that there is something called what we would say is our

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gathering together to him. Jesus introduces it first in John 14. We covered that in the first three

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verses. Jesus says, I'm going away. I'm going to prepare a place for you. And I'm going to come

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back and I'm going to pick you up and take you where I have been. Read John 14, 1, 2, and 3. Again,

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many of you who commented and criticized and said, there's no rapture. You didn't even mention

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John 14. Of course, you're not because that that disrupts your view. Listen, we want the Bible to

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shape our view. We don't want to have our view shape the Bible. This is very, very important.

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So he's going to take us to that place that he's been preparing for us. I would simply ask you this,

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when does that happen? How does it happen? Where are we going? You have to answer that. How, when,

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and where are we going? The pre-tribulation rapture views, the only view that makes that

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fit with all other views are with all other, I should say, representations of scripture.

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That's why listen, even a pre-rath or mid-trib, it doesn't fit right for this reason. The seven

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years, remember this, Jesus wrote into Jerusalem on Palm Sunday at the end of the 483rd year,

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prophesied in Daniel chapter 9, verses 24 to 27. When Israel rejected Jesus as Messiah,

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I'm putting it bluntly and I'm paraphrasing it, he went away. He said he's not going to come back

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to Israel until the time is for him to return to Israel. What is that? The 490 years minus

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removing 483 years leaves seven years. Some of you struggled with that. You see, it can't be seven

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years. It doesn't matter what you say, it's seven years. Yeah, but I might theologize this way.

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I don't care what your theology says. It's seven years. The Bible says it's seven years. There's

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the first half of 42 months, the second half of 42 months, or 1,260 days, and another 1,260 days.

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The Bible is so specific that in the middle of that, so think about this, on the 1,260 first

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day, we know that that's the day that the Antichrist enters the temple in Jerusalem and declares

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himself to be God. And that's when, so to speak, all hell breaks loose on earth. That's the second

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half of the Tribulation period, which is a horrific time that Jesus says it's a time so violent.

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And so demonically energized and so filled with a

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Antichrist age led by the Antichrist himself, but predominantly really Satan

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living out his wishes through the Antichrist and the false prophet that Jesus said,

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if he didn't return at the end of that seven years, there'd be no flesh left on earth. That's all

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bad it's going to be. It's for that reason. Some people have said, so see, we are in the church

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isn't the first 3.5 years because it's okay. It's not okay. The first 3.5 years is a time of great

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deception because the Holy Spirit would have stepped aside. Second Thessalonians 2, the Holy Spirit

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steps aside. He doesn't go anywhere by the way. He doesn't leave the earth. He steps aside.

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And then shall that wicked one be revealed, whom the Lord will consume with the breath of his

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mouth and the brightness of his coming, the Antichrist? So the first 3.5 years is a time of the

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earth being judged by demonic influence via the Antichrist, a man who will arise out of what we

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understand is the revised ancient Roman Empire simply because Daniel's description throughout the

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book of Daniel is this guy, the little horn is going to arise from the entity of the two

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legs of Daniel's image of this great statue, the Eastern and Western empires, uh, uh,

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flanks of the Roman Empire. So remember, please, the seven years in total is judgment on the earth.

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It's just a phased judgment. The upfront is deception by prosperity and peace and the second half

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is by extreme violence and plagues being poured out upon a Christ rejecting world, right?

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So let's talk about something that is very, very key. Mark it down please. It's the Olivet

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Discourse. The Olivet Discourse is found in Matthew 24, Luke 21, and Mark 13, Olivet Discourse.

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Why is it important? It's super important because nowhere in the Olivet Discourse is the church

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nowhere. Almost every eschatologist I have studied and looked at, even those who view it differently

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in a mid or post tribulational rapture view, they struggle. They have a hard time. It's, it's books,

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it's books like this one where uh, Dr. John Wolverid addresses the rapture question, when is it?

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Is it pre? Is it mid? Is it post? He gives arguments for all the views. He, he represents all the

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teams that are in question, their arguments. It's uh, by the way, it's pretty exhaustive. It's a fine

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print, but uh, it's a great work. And that's Dr. John Wolverid. By the way, you can get this at

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Jackibs.com. I don't get any money for it. You, you need to know that. Jackibs.com, you could order

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today the rapture question and get it out to you right away because it represents all the views

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and he gives reasons, pros and cons. It's very great. It's very balanced. But the Olivet Discourse,

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you guys, uh, has to deal with, listen, Christ second coming to Israel, to Jerusalem,

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regarding the Jew and the temple. There's no mention of the church. There's no mention of the

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church in that whatsoever. So listen, a couple of weeks ago, I mentioned in a sermon that I was

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giving that what the, what you and I were seen right now in the world around us is what we would

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call is what I said was Braxton Hicks, constructions, contractions. Those of you who have been pregnant

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and your, your, your, your uterus, your physiology, your body began to go through a workout program

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called Braxton Hicks. You're not giving birth. You're not even ready to give birth.

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But your body starts working out the vital muscles and tissues getting ready for delivery.

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It's not, it's not birth time. It's not technically birth pains. It's the body putting it

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itself through isn't it? Isn't God amazing that he made your body to do this? Ladies, women, females,

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okay? XX, right? X chromosome. Your body starts going into a workout to get ready to give birth.

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Right now in this world today, we are seeing Braxton Hicks contractions, the formation of a

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global governance, digital currencies, borderless world being talked about, world economic

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form and all the stuff that that they want to speak about. So you guys, one of the things I want

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to point out, it's very important to all of us is that and just answer this and I'm lovingly

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being sarcastic. Did Jesus go away? The answer is yes. Why did he go away? That's a great question.

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Can you answer that question? Why did Jesus go away? That's a very important question for you to

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answer. Did he say he would come back? Why is he coming back? So if this helps, I'm going to do it

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this way and if we've made mention of this before, see the umbrella, I'm holding up, it's an umbrella.

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So the first coming would be here. Okay? I'll say the rapture is in the middle.

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Okay? Second coming is at the end. John tells us that these are the last days. John,

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way back then 2000 years ago, the last days. But when we talk about the first and second coming,

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we're talking about it being under an umbrella of the coming of the Lord. And so what I want you guys

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to be thinking about, because we'll pick this up next time around. I want you to go study this.

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This is very, very important. In fact, let's read it. I want you to answer this question.

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In the community of believers, how about this? Those, those who make it to heaven, what are they

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wearing? What do they wear? And you're going to immediately shout out white robes and you are

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correct to a point. Old Testament saints get white robes. There's no doubt about it. The tribulation

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saints who die for their faith during the tribe, most of them are beheaded. They get white robes.

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But there is that group, the Bible mentions, they don't get robes. There's a group that gets fine

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white linen, clean and bright. Completely different word. In fact, listen up. You guys want to

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look at it later? Look up Strong's number, Strong's. Strong's number G 1039. Strong's number G 1039,

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which relates to the church or in fine white linen, clean and bright versus or in contrast to

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G 3588 or G 4749. That's G 3588 or G 4749 refers to robes. There's a difference. Why is there a

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difference? Because the bride of Christ doesn't wear robes. She wears a wedding gown. She wears fine

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linen, clean and bright. Those that die or are experiencing the great tribulation period

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and the seven years referred to in the Olivet Discourse, they're wearing robes. The church is

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nowhere to be found. That is a very, very important point to keep in mind. Listen up everybody and I

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know we're running shorter in time. I hate the fact that these things just supposed to be 20 minutes.

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Revelation 19 verse 1, after these things I heard a loud voice of a great multitude in heaven

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saying, hallelujah, salvation and glory and honor and power belong to the Lord our God,

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for true and righteous are his judgments. Interesting. They're in heaven and they're talking

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about God's being, God is awesome and so are his judgments. They're righteous because he has

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judged the great harlot who corrupted the earth with her fornication. The false religious system

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that the Antichrist uses to gain his foothold into a spiritualized world. It's going to be a false,

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I'll just say it's a false church and he has avenged on her the blood of his servants shed by her.

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So whoever's talking is not them, right? They're saying praise God. God is, he's the Lord has

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stepped up right now and he's executing judgment on those who killed his servants.

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And again they said, hallelujah and her smoke rises up forever and ever and the 24 elders who

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I'll say represent the church for a reason, not for this podcast. And the four living creatures

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fell down and worshiped God who sat on the throne saying, amen, hallelujah, then a voice came from

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the throne saying praise our God, all you his servants and those who fear him both small and great

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verse six. And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude as the sound of many waters

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and as the sound of mighty thunderines, that's pretty awesome. Saying, hallelujah for the Lord,

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God omnipotent rains, let us be glad and rejoice and give him glory. How come? Why for the marriage

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of the lamb has come and his wife has made herself ready. And to her it was granted to be a raid

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and fine linen, clean and bright for the fine linen is the righteous acts of the saints. Listen up,

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saints of the Old Testament, saints of the tribulation period, and the church age believers are called

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saints, the bride of Christ, she's wearing fine linen. There are various categories of saints.

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Please remember that. Verse nine, then he said to me, right, blessed are those who are called to the

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marriage supper of the lamb. I love this. Listen carefully everybody. Though blessed are those who are

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called to the marriage supper or invited to the marriage supper of the lamb. And he said to me,

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these are the true saints of God. And I fell at his feet to worship him, but he said to me,

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see that you do not do that for I am your fellow servant and of your brethren who have the

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testimony of Jesus worship God for the testimony of Jesus as the spirit of prophecy. If your church

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doesn't teach Bible prophecy, get out of it. Go find one that does. So listen, there's a fellow

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servant talking to John about what John is seeing in heaven and what's happening. John is looking

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at the 24 elders. He's seen the saints that have been prepared by their righteousness, which is

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the fine linen, clean and bright. Check it out. Blessed are those who are invited to the marriage

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supper of the lamb. I'm going to submit to you something you've never maybe never thought about

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before. Brides and grooms are never invited to their own weddings. In fact, there is no wedding

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without a bride and groom. There is no wedding without Jesus and the church. So who's invited?

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You're not it. Listen, if you're a believer today, you're not invited. You are the you are the

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service. You are the celebration. I am the celebration. I'm not invited to it. It can't happen

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without me. Now I saw and have now John says I saw heaven open and behold a white horse and he

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was sat on it was called faithful and true. And in righteousness, he judges and makes war. This

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is awesome. Listen to this. His eyes were like flame of fire on his head where many crowns.

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And yet a name that no one knew except himself. He was clothed with a robe dipped in blood. You

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want to know why? Read Isaiah. Read the last six chapters of the book of Isaiah. Jesus,

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while we're in heaven, Jesus will intermittently execute judgment and defense of the nation of Israel

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while we're in heaven. Go read Isaiah 26 verses 19 to 21. And he was clothed with a robe dipped in

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blood in his name on it was the word of God. Watch verse 14 and the armies in heaven clothed in fine

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linen. That's so crystal clear. White and clean followed him on white horses. That's us. Notice

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we're in heaven. How do we get there? So cool. Are you guys getting this? Listen, right now a

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truth is slapping up against your denominational teachings. Don't come to the Bible with a preconceived

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preloaded ideology or theology. Let God's word speak to you. This is so cool. And he himself tri- oh

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sorry, I just skipped a spot. Not a good thing to do. Now out of his mouth goes a sharp sword that

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with it he should strike the nations. This is the judgment of Christ in the second coming.

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And he himself will rule them with a rod of iron. So do we. That's also mentioned of us.

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He himself treads the wine press of the fierceness of the wrath of Almighty God. And he has on his

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robe and on his thigh a name written King of kings and Lord of lords. Verse 17, then I saw an angel

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standing in the sun and he carried with a loud he cried out with a loud voice saying to all the birds

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that fly in the midst of heaven. So all the birds in the atmosphere in the air come and gather

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together for the supper of the great God that you may eat the flesh of kings and the flesh of

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captains, the flesh of mighty men, the flesh of horses and of those who sit on them and the flesh of

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all people. That's nations free and slave, both small and great. This is the judgment at the

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second coming. And I saw the beast, the kings of the earth and the armies gathered together to

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make war against him who sat on the horse and against his army. That's us. When's that second coming?

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Then the beast was captured and with him the false prophet who worked signs in his presence by

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which he deceived those who received the mark of the beast and those who worshiped the image.

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And those were cast into the lake of fire burning with brimstone and the rest of

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were not killed. I'm sorry, the rest were killed with the sword which proceeded from the mouth of

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him. Jesus who sat in the horse and all the birds were filled with their flesh. Read the old

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a New Testament accounts of what happens when Christ the Messiah returns. He gathers the nations

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together in the valley of Jehosephat and those that are condemned are consumed by the flesh-eating

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birds. Revelation 20, you can keep reading going on there where we get into the deeper things of

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the judgment of Christ, the millennial age and the final doom of Satan. That's Revelation 19. It's

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very, very critical. Your homework right now is to figure out who's in heaven with Jesus while

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the earth is being slammed by the seal judgments, the trumpet judgments and the bowl judgments.

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And at the end of the bowl judgments comes the

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awesome and terrifying day of the Lord. And we're going to end on this because we've got

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way too long. We'll pick this up next time. Somebody needs to mark that down.

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If you read 2nd Thessalonians 2, people get confused and they freak out. But number one, Paul

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wrote 2nd Thessalonians 2 because people were freaking out in Thessalonica because they thought

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they had missed the rapture and that they were in the tribulation period. Paul wrote them a

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second letter explaining and saying this, the day of the day of Jesus Christ is going to happen

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first, the day of Christ and the day of the Lord begins. This is what he's talking about 2nd

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Thessalonians 2. Watch. We don't know when the rapture takes place, but when it happens,

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when the day of Christ takes place, the day of Jesus Christ, the Lord Jesus Christ,

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that's the rapture. In the next millisecond, the day of the Lord begins. It's the rapture,

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the day of Jesus for the church, fulfilling John 14. When that happens, it starts the clock ticking

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called the day of the Lord and it goes all the way out for the 7 years in total and all the way

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out through the end of the millennium, the thousand years. We're at a time. Man, I hope you guys

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join us next time, gather people together. Let's just go for this. Let's just let's keep going until

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until we're done on this. But I apologize for the lack of time. You guys remember, let people know,

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get this podcast bumped up there. We need to let people know at the woke media world that people

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care about this time. So if you like it, please like it. And if you share it, please do share it

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