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Real Life presents the Jack Hibbs Podcast with intention and boldness to proclaim

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truth, equip the saints and impact our culture.

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Hey everybody, deliverance, demonic activity, spiritual things, are we doing the right thing?

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To an end, let's find out.

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You can get the outlines of this podcast by going to jackhibbs.com slash podcast.

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Today, if this podcast lifts you up and encourages you to live a more fulfilled life in Christ,

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then make sure you leave us one of those five star ratings.

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To us, that's like saying, amen or yes, then that rating will encourage others to listen.

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Now, open your hearts to what God's word has to say to you.

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Here is Jack Hibbs.

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Hey everybody, welcome back to our podcast and we are delighted to have you with us.

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And again, as always, remember, please, if these snippets, if these brief moments of time together,

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bless you, excite you, get your conversation going, causes you to dig deeper into the Bible,

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then that means we're succeeding.

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And so if that's happening, the greatest thing that you can do for us,

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you don't send money, notice we're not asking for money, we want something better than that.

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We want you to tell others.

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We want you to share, we want you to give us five stars.

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We want you to subscribe, get the word out, push it out, tell everybody.

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Word of mouth is golden, especially when we're traffic and in truth.

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And of course, in God's truth.

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So we're going to quickly take on a topic that is something that is not only a buzz,

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it has always been a buzz.

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It has always been and it's increasing.

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And you might be surprised to find out that I actually agree that it should be increasing.

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But we need to define the topic and define how it's revealed in scripture.

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And that is the topic of demon possession or deliverance ministries,

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being able to cast out or to discern or to

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act in a way or in a place of authority over, we'll just say others and or mainly demonic spirits.

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So first of all, let's do this together.

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Rather than getting getting down into the deep weeds of some theological opinions about

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Mark's gospel chapter 16, there are those who have their views dependent upon what

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the denominational background they're from, I pick on Mark's gospel because

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Mark's gospel covers more miracles done by Jesus in the shortest gospel out of the four.

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I think that's fascinating.

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Mark's gospel is unique in a lot of ways.

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Number one, it has no genealogical record of Jesus, all of their three of the gospels do.

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Mark's gospel is the smallest.

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It's the shortest, but it's also affectionately known as Peter's gospel.

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Mark didn't experience these things.

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Peter told Mark what to write, Mark's gospel.

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So having said that, we see more miracles performed more service done by Jesus,

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more ministry examples provided to us in Mark's gospel, the shortest gospel,

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but it's all about serving and it's all about doing the will of God and it's all about miracles.

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And so having said that in Mark chapter 16, the Bible says in verse 15,

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in he that is Jesus said to them,

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go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature.

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I love that.

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That's called evangelism and that's for you to do.

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It's for me to do.

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It's for all of you to do.

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That's not for Billy Graham to do or Luis Palau or Greg Laurie or a few limited evangelists.

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Those guys have the ministry of evangelism, but yet Paul told Timothy,

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all of us are to do the to do the ministry of an evangelist.

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So no one's off the hook on sharing Christ with others.

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If in fact, you are a believer.

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Verse 16, he who believes and his baptize will be saved.

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Okay, but he who does not believe will be condemned.

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There's a whole other story there on baptism that we could address, but we're not going to do it.

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Notice this.

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It's believing is what saves you.

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And your first act of obedience should be water baptism.

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All right.

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How do you know that, Jack?

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Because he actually says so.

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It says the person that does not believe is condemned.

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Doesn't see the person that's not baptized is condemned.

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Belief faith in Christ is the primary and the secondary is public baptism,

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which acknowledges publicly that you've made a private personal internal commitment to Christ.

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Verse 17, and these signs will follow those who believe.

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The signs will follow those who believe the believers are not to follow signs.

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And I bring that up specifically because there are many in the hyperpanocostal movement.

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There are many of those who are getting into the spirituality or the aberrant spirituality of Christianity

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to whereby things, events, miracles, dynamics, possession, Satan,

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all of these things have now carried the bulk of the affection and conversation

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rather than the pursuit of lost souls.

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People now are dialing down and becoming overstimulated on spirituality

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rather than biblical doctrine.

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You want to be very careful about that because it is in fact a mark of spiritual immaturity.

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That kind of thinking would have fit perfect in the crazy, crazy church in Greece called Corinth.

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That church was out of control and that's why that book first and second Corinthians is so powerful

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because God gave the instructions regarding what in the world were they doing,

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what they needed to do is get back to the Bible.

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I'll unpack this more in a moment.

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And so and these signs will follow those who believe in the name.

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In my name, they will cast out demons.

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They will speak with new tongues.

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They will take up serpents and if they drink anything deadly, it will by no means hurt them.

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They will lay hands on the sick and they will recover.

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And the Bible goes on to say it, closing out that chapter.

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So then after the Lord had spoken to them, he was received up into heaven and sat down at the right hand of God

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and they all went out and preached everywhere in the Lord working with them

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and confirming the word through the accompanying of signs. Amen.

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That verse, that portion ends with the word of God was preached and to validate or to verify or to confirm the power of the word of God.

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Miracles were done.

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Miracles are never supposed to be in front of the word.

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The miracles are always to be behind the word.

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Word goes out first.

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Miracles follow.

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Word is the authority.

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So listen, is the word of God authority in your life?

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That is the question.

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We know that the word of God, doctrine is what Paul stressed to Timothy and to Titus, doctrine, the New Testament,

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outside of the gospel, the epistles are rooted and based in doctrine.

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So the pathology is this.

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What is the church known for?

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Biblically sound doctrine.

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So when churches get and Christians get away from biblical sound doctrine, they get into the weeds.

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And what are some of the weeds?

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Well, we have church history.

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Church history shows us that when we get away from the word of God, we get sideways and we begin to

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we begin to get so dialed down on certain things.

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So for example, I love Bible prophecy.

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That is the discipline or the doctrine of eschatology.

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But there are people and churches that that's all they do.

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That's all they think about.

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They don't talk about anything else.

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They just speak about Bible prophecy.

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You can teach about Bible prophecy forever and wind up causing your audience to wind up and

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hell because you never got to the gospel.

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You never got to the cross.

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You never got to sin.

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You never got to these things, okay?

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So you can hobby horse on that.

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You can hobby horse on healing.

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You can hobby horse on the Holy Spirit.

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You can hobby horse on so many things.

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But isn't it interesting that Paul the Apostle said he didn't do that.

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Paul the Apostle said to the Ephesian elders, I've made it sure to all of you that I gave

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you the full council of God, everything.

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And that's how you and I were supposed to be.

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So more specifically, let's get to this topic right now that is is

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pervading the so-called church today.

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And that is what is comes out of don't get me wrong when I say this.

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I love our Pentecostal friends.

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So long as their doctrine is sound and summaries for sure, the the the tendance of Christianity.

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But Pentecostalism, hypercharismaticism,

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hyperpentecostalism is now a foot in a very big way because

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people frankly, honestly, they don't have much of an appetite for a systematic

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study of the Bible.

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They want goosebumps.

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They want bells.

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They want whistles.

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And does the Bible speak about demons and demon activity?

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Of course, does the Bible talk about casting out demons?

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Absolutely.

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Does the Bible talk about healing and raising the dead?

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Absolutely.

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But when people begin to pursue that instead of personal holiness and them

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knowing the full council of God, this is where we get goofy.

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And you get groups that say things like this, do you speak in tongues?

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Do you speak in tongues?

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If you don't speak in tongues, you're not saved.

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Where's that in the Bible?

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I pause for effect.

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Where's that in the Bible?

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Hall the Apostles is the exact opposite.

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Hall the Apostle says in 1 Corinthians 12 and 14,

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and Paul talks about it in Romans 8, I believe it is, yes, 8,

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that there is a prayer language that's available to all believers.

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It's not the gift of tongues.

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And then there is the gift of tongues, which is given to some people,

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just like some people have the gift of evangelism, some people of the gift of

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pastor teacher, some have the gift of teacher, some of the gift of giving,

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some of the gift of administration, not everybody has the same gift.

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That's what makes up a church.

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So I want you to think about that for a moment because there are, frankly,

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there are, there are loonies out there that are saying, if you don't speak in

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tongues, you're not saved.

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That is a demonic, heretical doctrine.

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And it comes out of hyperhenocostalism.

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And you say, well, that's pretty harsh, Jack.

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No, it's pretty harsh that they say such things.

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Outside of scripture, was the thief on the cross saved?

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Yep, Jesus said he was.

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Did he speak in tongues?

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Did he raise the dead?

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Did he give any money?

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Did he do his time in the children's ministry?

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Of course not.

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I think you know how that goes.

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But listen, when we talk about what's going on today in this, in this area,

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there are people now because they're not rooted in grounded in doctrine.

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They're lopsided in doctrine.

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Then everything that is wrong, everything that is weird, everything that they

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can't explain, or everything that doesn't go their way, spiritually speaking,

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must be the presence of a demon or possession of a demon.

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When your child, when your child's diet at home is pretty pathetic.

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When your kid is first of all a kid, number two, when your kid is going through

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the development of being a kid, there's constant hormonal and energy level

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activity, coupled that with crispy cream for breakfast, topped off with a

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Pepsi, and then they have Cheetos for lunch and baloney.

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And then they come home to go to McDonald's for dinner.

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You know what you're going to have?

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You're going to have a demon possess kid.

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I'm kidding.

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I'm sorry.

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I just had to throw that in there.

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You're going to have a kid that because of frankly bad parenting skills,

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you've got a kid that is completely, chemically,

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whacked out for eating all kinds of sick, strange stuff.

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And the body's not getting what it needs.

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So the kid won't pay attention.

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The kid talks back.

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The kid's irritable.

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The kid's grumpy.

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And imagine you're not having a cup of coffee and you got to go to work.

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You wouldn't even think of such a thing because you got to go get your Starbucks

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or whatever poison it is to get you ready for the day.

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Hey, you got your kid running on stuff that their body was never intended to have.

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And then you're wondering, I think my kids possessed.

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First of all, your kid might be completely undernourished and you even realize that.

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So a hyperpennacostalism, hyper spiritual environment would say,

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what's wrong with my kid?

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Must be a demon.

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I tried praying and nothing happened.

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Listen, we need to just calm down, slow down and be very, very careful.

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By the way, don't let your kid hear you say that.

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You'll scare the snot out of your kid.

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You'll freak them out telling your kid, look, what's wrong with you?

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You must have a demon.

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Man, that is so pathetic.

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Don't do such a thing.

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But by the way, if you apply that kind of response to how your kids act in,

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then you could do the same to your wife or to your husband.

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I think my husband's possessed.

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He won't listen to a word I'm saying, or I think my wife's possessed.

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She keeps spending money that we don't have.

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She must have a demon that's so ridiculous, everybody.

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Of course, you know, that's crazy.

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What are we talking about here?

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We're talking about the last days, warning and scripture that perilous times would come.

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And there'd be doctrines of demons and deceiving spirits that would be present.

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And if you want to find out where that's more active than anywhere else,

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it would be the so-called church.

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That's where it begins.

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That's where the first warning goes out to the church, but it's not limited to the church.

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one thing we know for sure doesn't take a spiritual Einstein to figure this out.

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They're under the influence of drugs.

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A hyperpennacostalist will rush on to the scene and say, and they're possessed.

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We don't know that.

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You do know, please, I'm not saying that people are not possessed.

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I do believe more now than maybe at any other time.

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I nobody has data on this, nobody in the world has data on this.

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But I wouldn't be surprised if we're living in the days now of more demon possession,

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globally than it in any other time.

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Just because somebody's head spins around and spits out split pea soup,

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that's not the qualification for them being demon possessed.

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and desirable.

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You might look at that person's life and say, wow, listen, deceiving spirits.

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That's red with with fiery eyes.

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OK, demon possession deceives.

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Do demons manifest themselves in animals and humans?

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But we have to be careful that we don't wrongly label things out of a spiritual spasm

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because we can't explain something or because we're shallow in our biblical theology,

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that we quickly jump to the demon part of it, where there's a demon behind that door.

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And that that groups demon possessed and a look at that person, we need to calm down

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and have discernments.

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if anybody will ask of me for wisdom, I'll give it to them.

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We need to conduct ourselves wisely.

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I do believe, by the way, for those of you who are quickly forming an opinion,

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I believe in all of the gifts of the Holy Spirit.

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So there, I just made a bunch of cessationists upset with me now.

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They liked me until a moment ago because they believe in some of the gifts and other gifts have ended.

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I believe in all of the gifts.

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I believe the Holy Spirit smart enough to use them throughout the ages as they apply,

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as he seeks to apply them in whatever culture that is.

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but I believe that there are people who act in the gift of apostleship,

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meaning that they go out from their home and they travel the world trusting God

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and they start churches, they plant churches and they move on their apostles.

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I don't believe that this guy's Apostle John because his denomination has apostles.

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There's Apostle Susie.

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You can call me, is it so funny?

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Every apostle I've met on earth, they always say, I'll say,

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Hey, how are you doing Pastor Mike?

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It's a apostle Mike.

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They always give, they're very sensitive about that.

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It's kind of funny.

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I really doubt it.

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that's what we need to calm down about this kind of stuff.

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So regarding demonic activity, demonic activity,

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is something where as a believer, I trust I'm speaking mainly to believers right now,

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let's say that number one, you are the only believer in your home.

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What does the Bible say about you being the only believer in your house?

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The Bible says, Peter says that you being the only believer in your home,

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your home is sanctified by the

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the believer that you being the believer and your house is protected

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because the believer dwells in that house.

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your husband and your children are protected because you're the believer.

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It doesn't mean they're saved, it means that you're the believer.

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But as time goes on, let's say somebody comes into your home and they bring in something

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like pornography or a Ouija board or what is known as the trade as entries.

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These are allurements but behind them, think of Ouija board or Dungeons and Dragons or

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what are some of the things that are out there that's the tip of the entire spirit.

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The tip enters into the body but it's the momentum, it's the inertia that drives the tip

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and it's a rod into your body to contaminate you and sicken you to death.

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Think of it being like that.

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You would be surprised because here in Southern California a lot of people make their way up

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from South America. Man, you'd be surprised how many biblical guidance sessions I've set

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through where people came from Ecuador for example and they brought with them these gods,

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these little carved out gods and they set up these little shrines and their homes now here

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in America and somebody in the family, they made sure those idols made it here

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and they prayed to them and they were there and then somebody gets saved and then they come

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and they say, Pastor Jack, this is what's going on in my house. There are voices you can hear in

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the atmosphere. The baby's crib is shaking in the middle of the day and we have to scoop the

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baby up out of the crib in the room turns ice cold. I'm telling you guys real deals. If you

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thought I was one who's not open to the supernatural, I've seen it but I hope you know that I don't

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go around because somebody's an idiot or rude or mean the other demon possessed. That's just a

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sloppy lazy way of trying to diagnose a prognost of diagnose a problem but the spiritual issues

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are rising in the world around us but they have to have an entry and the Bible is very clear that

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a Christian cannot be demon possessed. The Bible says, God will not share you with the spirit of

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Beelzebub. If the Holy Spirit's in you, you cannot be possessed. Read Luke chapter, I think it's

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Luke 16. I think it's Luke 16. If it's not, it's 15 where Jesus is a demon spirit leaves a man,

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goes out looking around for somebody else to possess, having found nobody. He comes back and

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finds that person he left wide open. In other words, the Holy Spirit's not in their life and

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that demon invites seven other of his buddies to join him and now the state of that individual is

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way worse than it was at the beginning. A Holy Spirit filled believer cannot be demon possessed.

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They can be attacked. They can be we can be attacked. We can be oppressed. We can be suppressed

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but never possessed. God will not share you but that doesn't keep you from being attacked by the enemy.

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So what I want to encourage you about is watch out for those who have deliverance ministries.

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I'm being careful to say that I would just say almost all of them that I've been aware of

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have some element of a hyper sensationalist, hyperpenta-costal, hyper-spirituality

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flavor to it that departs from scripture. Stick to the scriptures. Jesus said here,

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go out in all the world and preach the gospel. That's the number one thing you're supposed to do.

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Secondly, if you're preaching the gospel and there's somebody there that's chewing on a streetlight

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go over there and find out if they're on something. Are they unfit? No? Are they on crack?

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If they're not, do this. Tell them, listen, I need to speak to you. Listen to me.

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I'm coming to you right now. I'm speaking to you in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth.

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See how they respond. If they start chewing on the street pole harder,

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if you start hearing their teeth cracking, if they look at you and their eyes roll back and turn

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black stone instead of white, the eye rolls back and turns jet black. Yeah, that's not fentanyl.

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That's not crack. You got a real live demon possessed person there. Keep mentioning in the name

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Jesus, but friends, you better listen. You better be careful because they're lying spirits.

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When you address somebody who you think's demon possessed, you ought to get somebody with you

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who's a spirit-filled believer to be together. At the same time, the two of you better be able to

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handle incredible lying because the person will turn and say something like, I know you

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last night you were at the store and you went out in the parking lot and you drank a bottle of

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beer and you said, well, that's so stupid. One of you might turn red because that's what you did.

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And you said, oh my gosh, what's happening here? A lying spirit? But listen, they'll do this.

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They'll take something that is uniquely about you and they'll expose it.

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And your friend will say, oh my gosh, did you go drink a beer in front of Albertsons?

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You were Christians. What are you doing? And you did do that. Nobody knows. You thought nobody knew

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the demon world communicates. And now you're like, uh, yeah, that happened. And then the demon says,

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oh, and by the way, your friend, your friend is this and it's a complete lie.

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This really happens. I've watched this happen. I've seen this happen. My wife and I at least have

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been involved in things like this happen. But we don't go around shouting this kind of stuff out.

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We've encountered all kinds of things that physically manifest themselves in our lives. We saw them.

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We saw it. We saw it moving. We saw it. We heard this speak.

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We could go on and on about this stuff. I saw a guy leave planet earth. He got about six to eight

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inches off the ground was levitating and then began to attack me and he couldn't hurt. He

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came. He fell flat on the ground. And I'm like, what? And then when the guy hit the ground,

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he said, well, why am I on the ground? What's happening here? Long three and a half hour story

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made short. That was a truly demon possessed individual. Be careful about being so callous and

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carefree about deliverance. Be very, very careful. It's been my experience that those who are

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involved in demonic activity, Biblically, and have seen the power of the Holy Spirit and the power

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of Satan, knowing jokes about it, no one laughs about it. They take it dead seriously. And because

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of that, there'll be 100% Biblically accurate in their approach. This is vital. I end with this.

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We're living at a time right now where pharmacai has opened the door to demonic possession

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and manifestation. You say, pharmacai, what is that? Sorcery. The word sorcery in the Bible

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is the Greek word pharmacai. It's where we get the word pharmacy or pharmaceutical.

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Sorcery and pharmaceutical, pharmacai, the word means hallucinogenic mind bending, mind

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altering experiences. Often set in motion by mind altering drugs, pharmacai, pharmacy, drug use

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that alters the mind that opens you up to the world of sorcery, demonic spiritual realms.

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Did you, do you realize that right here, right now in the atmosphere that's between you and I,

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spiritually speaking, there could be a portal whereby the spiritual world is their present.

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Now, I say that casually. Let me dial down specifically. When the believers get together,

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the Bible says that angels gather, were Christians gather, and they learn from what's being

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taught and what's being said from believers. Again, from Peter, read Jude, read 1st and 2nd Peter

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on this. Things that angels desire to look into happens when believers get together with the

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Word of God open. Clearly, it's not limited to just angels. Satan's a fallen angel.

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And wherever there was a church of 12 people, Jesus being the pastor. How often did they encounter

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demonic activity? Heck, one of them was soon to be a tool of Satan himself called Judas.

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Jesus had a church of 12 people. One of them was Satan possessed.

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Wherever the kingdom of God is active, demonic activity will attack.

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It's going to be different. I got to wrap this up quick right at time. If you, if you are in the

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jungles of South America right now, demonic activity manifests itself in very, very freaky

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supernatural manifestations. Because that's what works there, voodoo-like stuff.

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All right, shaman type stuff. In the Western sophisticated world, Manhattan corner office,

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New York City, 19th floor of that office. The demons don't have to manifest like they do in South

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America. They're not stupid. They don't have, you know, they don't have, they don't have a book. Oh,

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you have to, hey, say, you know, screw tape. You have to do it this way. 101 section 492.

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It's time for you to show up in that Wheeler and Dealer's office in lower Manhattan and

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turn them green with red eyeballs and spit spit on them. That works in South America. It doesn't work

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in a cultured, in a world, in a cultured world. So Satan will use other tactics. So I care,

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are you with me on this? We need to be discerning. We need to be wise. Now, look, you guys,

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we're going to wrap this up 30 minutes. I've been going off about this. And I highly recommend

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this fantastic book. Are you ready? And by the way, may God bless you in your pursuit of trying

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to buy it. It's not, it's not easy to get. In fact, I think Satan probably tries to keep it from being

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bought. The book is entitled biblical demonology by Merrill Unger. Biblical demonology by Merrill Unger

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is a Christian classic systematic in its theology on this whole topic of possession,

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deliverance demons versus fallen angels. There's a difference. So much, so much more. So read

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your Bible. Always as a default. Read your Bible. You read your Bible. You will never be led astray.

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Okay. And let's just pray right now. You may have somebody in your life

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that is tormented to say the least. Father, we come in the name of Jesus, Jesus of Nazareth, we come,

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Jesus of the Bible. We come to you, Lord Jesus Christ, your son sent to this world to be our

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Redeemer, our crucified Lord and Savior resurrected King of kings and Lord of lords. And we plead

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the blood of Jesus Christ in this prayer that there are those who have sweet, precious children they

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love, but their child is not sweet. Their child is not precious in conduct. Their child is

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manifesting evils, anger, a bloodlust, strange ways. Father, in those areas where there's

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demonic torment, we pray in the name of Jesus Christ that you would set that family,

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set that mom, set that dad in that family situation free by delivering their child or ministering

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to their child in the name of Jesus, we pray. If there's a child, a mother, a father, a husband,

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a wife, a brother, a sister that is off just because of hormones or mental issues. Lord,

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may they be checked out by a good physician and good blood test and good hormone test and good

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saliva tests to determine what's going on. May every mom and dad, every young man and woman,

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every brother or sister, may they pray right now with me calling upon the blood of Christ that if

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there's any oddities in a home right now that you would show them where the Ouija board is under

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the bed or in the attic or out in the shed with the lawnmower, there is a statue and image,

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something given a gift of some sorts from a family relative in Peru or something that has been

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shipped to them as a gift and things have been strange ever since these entries. God, that you

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would show them that this is none other than a place of demonic entry that they would destroy

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these things and father, if anybody has any pornography in their homes, that is a satanic demonic

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entry for the evil spirits. That is the altar of Ishtar, the demon goddess. And God, we pray that if

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necessary, laptops would be thrown away, thrown into the pool, tossed into the sea. But God, we pray,

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there's a lot of demon activity going on and a lot of it is because doors have been left open

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and spiritual things have come in to invade. So God, I just pray and how funny is that? I'm praying

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this prayer when when when was the last time my phone went off doing a podcast? Never

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because we are asking you, Lord God, to manifest your power over demonic forces and to set those

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that are watching this podcast free from the influence of demonic activity. And may they

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stand firm in the authority of Jesus Christ. We don't have any authority. We ask you, Lord,

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to rebuke these things. We ask you to cast these things out. We stand in Christ the authority.

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We have none of our own. We stand behind you, Lord. And we call upon your name. And all God's people

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said, Amen. Listen, as always, you guys, you know the drill. It's time for us to live out. What we

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believe in, it's time for us to live out real life. God bless you until next time.

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Go to jackhibb's.com to learn more and stay connected. But wait, there's more. I just couldn't

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end that podcast with, without saying this. Get your kid out of the room, right? Don't let them

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watch this until you watch it first. And that is this watch the film, the movie nefarious by Steve

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Deese. Love Steve, great guy, friend of mine, love him. He put together a great movie, a great

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movie that is biblically accurate, that deals with demonic possession and satanic activity.

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It was at the theaters. Didn't do very good because probably Satan didn't want it to do good.

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Saw three times nefarious. I believe it's available. Team anybody Netflix or Hulu or where

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prime maybe Amazon nefarious the movie. And then finally with this,

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there's an increasing amount of UPA or UFO activity going on. That's demonic activity. Watch and

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see. It's going to increase. It's going to be cloaked in anything but blatant demonic possession

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and demonic manifestations. It'd be cloaked as some sort of visitation from enlightened ones. In

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fact, was Jesus an alien. That is a demonic doctrine. So I had to throw that in there.

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And listen, stand strong. Be in the Word of God. Make sure that you're full of the Holy Spirit.

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Make sure that you're a child of God. And you don't have to worry about anything. God bless you.
