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Real life presents the Jack Hibbs podcast with intention and boldness to proclaim

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truth, equip the saints and impact our culture. Hey, I am blessed and privileged to

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be with Seth Gruber, the founder of the White Rose Resistance. You need to know

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what it's all about and you need to know what Seth has to say. I believe that

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he's the premier voice for the unborn child that's in America today if not the

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world. You can get the outlines of this podcast by going to jackhibbs.com slash podcast.

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Today, if this podcast lifts you up and encourages you to live a more fulfilled

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life in Christ, then make sure you leave us one of those five star ratings. To

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us, that's like saying amen or yes, then that rating will encourage others to

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listen. Now, open your hearts to what God's word has to say to you. Here is Jack Hibbs.

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And so Seth, I know this is unrehearsed. We're sitting down right now together,

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but just tell us about what's going on. Some of the projects that you have

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lined up and really what's going on with your relationship to the church with

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your vision with the mission? Are you getting the love? Are you giving the help? Are

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you being taken care of what's going on? Yeah, man. Well, for those of you guys

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listening, you guys, if you don't know this, you need to know this. Pastor Jack is

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himself an abortion survivor. And some people don't know that. Some people

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remember the Calvary magazine interview you did years ago. We did an Instagram

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reel with your team that we collaborated on together. And that reached a lot of

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people and a lot of people were responding saying, I didn't even know that about

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Pastor Jack's testimony and story. And by the way, guys, when we say abortion

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survivor, we don't mean like a woman who got an abortion and then got healed. Some

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people get confused. No, we're talking about like a baby who survived a failed

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abortion attempt on their life wall in utero. That's what we mean by the phrase

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abortion survivor. And so we've worked together on a love life California conference

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at this church before, Calvary Jebel Chino Hills, January 2022. And we had our

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friend Melissa Odin who runs the abortion survivor's network. And it's just

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it's so profound to be with you, Jack. Again, just thinking about the horror and

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trauma of having your life attacked before you've even seen the light of day,

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before you even felt the warmth of your mother's arms, that your life was being

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assaulted and attacked already. And like, and we've talked about this and you've

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talked about this publicly. I'm not sharing anything that you have said. And you

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have you had such incredible love and compassion for your mother, but like to

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be attacked by those who were designed to protect you before you were even

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born. Yeah. It's an incredibly traumatic and horrific thing to consider. And in an

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agent society that says, believe survivors, trust survivors, it's interesting how

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the culture does not have any patience for the stories of abortion survivors who

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are simply saying, if abortion was a woman's right issue, then where was my

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right? Exactly. Because most abortions survivors are women. Yeah.

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Strangely enough. Isn't that so? Where are their women's rights? When their

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mother was paying a hitman to try to kill them in utero? Yeah. And so I didn't

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answer your question at all, but like it's just so good to be with you again,

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brother. It's great. It's probably the most outspoken pro-life pastor in the

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country, but the fact that you survived a failed abortion attempt just provides

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so much credibility to your voice, brother. Well, I tell you what's amazing to

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Seth is the fact that my, you know, when I, I was in junior high when I found that

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when you heard them talking about it, yeah. But I had to mature years later to find out

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several things. Number one, when I became a Christian, it all began to make sense for me.

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Second thing is, having been a abortion survivor, that causes you to have what I

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believe is a little bit of more boldness toward the call, toward the mission.

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Because in a sense, yeah, I was already destined to death. So I've gone through that.

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I wasn't supposed to live. But, you know, you mentioned something about my mom and the real

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issue was it was my father who put her through the demand that when he came back from Alaska that

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she was not to be pregnant with this child. And so she was the victim. I was a victim. And then,

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you know, if you think about it, my dad grew up in a non-Christian worldview experience. So it

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just goes to show you that when God is interjected into the scenario, the healing radically takes place

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because the very son that was not supposed to be born wound up leading my mom and my dad to

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Christ. And so I'll see them later in heaven. But tell me what's going on. You've got an incredible

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platform. And God is using you tremendously. How, how is that being played out? Are you speaking

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engagement, engagement is predominantly churches? Is it the public square? Is it, tell me, what is

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the day in the life of Seth Gruber and the white roast resistance? Well, thanks to you, Jack,

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trusting a little 29-year-old whippersnapper in October of 2020 to preach on a Sunday morning.

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And I lost my stage fright, Pastor Jack, in about 2017 until I preached here October 2020,

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because I went from speaking in churches of 200, maybe 300 people to all three services while

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you're defying new sum in the state of California, fully open. And that was the morning that

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changed my life, actually, was having spoke at comeback California a month before. And then you

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had me at 29 years old. And then, again, 14 months ago when I launched the white roast resistance,

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and I haven't looked back. And so thanks to you, actually, more so than any other single individual

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in the country, Pastor Jack, the national response to the white roast resistance has just been such a

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God thing. And so it's right now, it is January 2024. I'm pretty much booked out through June. I

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have almost no openings whatsoever. We have three kids. We move to Kansas to be closer to the in-laws

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because of all the traveling. We're probably the fastest growing pro-life organization in the country

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right now. And what makes us a little more unique, because I'm not here to, you know, talk down

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other organizations. We need lots of other organizations in the movement. What makes us unique is,

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I think, I'm trying to put myself out of a job. You see, you see, we actually don't need another

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501C3 doing the work that the blood-bought bride of Christ was called to do. And I mean, my mom was

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the director of a pregnancy resource center in the late 1980s when she was in her late 20s in

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Azusa, California, before she married my dad and had me as the first born. I grew up in the

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walk for life every year. I was raised in the pro-life movement. And yet I'm telling you, in your

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audience right now, there are too many 501C3 nonprofit pro-life organizations doing the work, filling

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in the gap left open by the local church. The pro-life movement did not begin in the 1970s, Jack. It

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began in the first century. Oh, that's right. The heritage of the church is that wherever the gospel

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is, pre-social transformation follows. So when we have Prop 1, abortion through point of birth,

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funded by the public doll in the state of California, when they're firing our friend Jessica Tapia,

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who worships her because she says, I'm not going to use a minor's preferred pronoun and then

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the light of the parents and the dude go in the women's restroom because his inner transgender

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legion says he's actually a woman. And then she gets fired. If these are not signs of the times

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of the kind of culture of death we're living in, I don't know what is. It was the church that

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established righteousness. It was it was the original Christian worldview that established the

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quote-unquote blessings of liberty. So we now wait downstream to quote my pastor Rob McCoy

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and we pick up human heartache that we helped create through our political apathy upstream.

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Less we lost our 501C3 statuses by preaching the full counsel of God and pure and undefiled

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religious. What we actually need is Christians learning how to be salty again. And so you look

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back when you read the Old Testament and you see Gideon in Judges 6, hiding out in a cave like a

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little pansy, Pastor Jack. And then the angel of the Lord comes to Gideon in Judges 6 and he says

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Mighty Man of Valor. He reminds him of his identity. Mighty Man of Valor. While he's hiding out in a

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cave like a little pansy because they had Bernie Sanders Democratic socialism. That's right.

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Right? Because the media and I were taking all the wheat that they grew fresh. You grow fresh.

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We'll take it. You make wheat take. That's a socialist. It's Democratic socialism Jack.

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That's cool. It's much better. I'm not sure how that works. I think it's if you vote your way

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and you have to shoot your way out or something like that. So he's hiding out in the cave,

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thrashing his own wheat. So he's a taxivator. That's right.

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Naughty, naughty, giddy. This is true. And then what in his conversation with the angel of the Lord

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what happens? He cooks God a meal. The angel of the Lord lights it on fire. So he freaks out.

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He has like a Joe Bowman. He's like, okay, I'm going to shut up now. You're God. And then the

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it says and that same night the it says God said walked out of the cave. Go tear down the alters

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the bale the high places and the ashera poles. That's right. Shop up the ashera poles and then use

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them to create to burn the sacrifice which is me which is pretty which is pretty awesome that

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God would have him go chop down both those particular types of worship icons. One of them being the

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how do we say it? One of them being a very tall pole that is can you believe this? This is in

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the Bible people where you just sound like you're conspiracy. Yeah, I know but in the Bible God says

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tear down those ashera poles. Those ashera poles which were fertility poles where people would gather

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together and the goddess of sex truly or agees to all of these various deities. And then

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the the pregnancy that that follows then they just went down the road to Moloch and they

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because it wasn't judicic so it is today sex said is their sales funnel abortion is their product

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and your children are their prospects you said yes I'll say that again say that sex said is their

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sales funnel abortion is their product and your children are their prospects so let me unpack that

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you got ashera goddess of sex or agees oops what happens when you do a lot of that yeah unwanted

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pregnancies unplanned pregnancies that's okay walk over to the other side of the camp to the

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bay all statues and pastor children through the fire yeah God says you go tear down those two what

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what are the two pagan gods of our culture today sex and child sacrifice it's both in and outside

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well by the way because if they make it out alive plan parenthood who's not only the largest abortion

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provider in the world yes yes what ready for this your audience probably never heard the statement

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before according to plan parenthood's own celebratory statements they are the second largest provider

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of cross sex hormones and puberty blockers in the land of the free in the home of the brave plan

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parenthood y'all let me say that again because you think I'm joking you right now plan parenthood the

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largest abortion provider in the world is as of 2023 last year the second largest provider of

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cross sex hormones and puberty blockers in the land of the free in the home of the brave it's their

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fastest growing revenue stream right now in January of 2024 plan parent is fastest growing

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revenue stream is not killing babies in the womb it's selling cross sex hormones and puberty

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blockers by the way creating permanent clients who will then need those drugs forever especially if

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they go the full out with chemical not with surgical castration and surgical intervention they will

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need drugs for the rest of their life that's a permanent client just like big pharma community

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that's the same organization plan parenthood that's exact and that's brilliant they are the largest

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provider of comprehensive sexuality education in America's public schools which yes is that

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pornographic they've got a pretty perfectly inappropriate absolutely remember when attorney

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general merit garland of course said after that brother and pastor Gary Hammrich's district that's

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right and in Loudon County Virginia by the way him and his family got saved they attend corner

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so in chapter now he was at that school board meeting that's right and yeah did he curse and get

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probably a little bit carried away yeah you want to know why audience because his daughter had been

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raped in a public high school bathroom in Loudon County Virginia why because the school board

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in Loudon County was responsible said that boys could go into the girl's bathroom if they identified

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as a woman inside so a dude who said he was a woman raped his father's daughter the school board

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covered it up because it was their own policy they transferred him to another school and he did

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it again to another girl so the dad who yeah got a little angry because school board members should

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not was raped yep and he gets a little carried away the school board meeting he gets arrested and

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what happened the next week attorney general of the United States of American merit garland says

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I'm opening up an investigation into domestic terrorism of parents speaking at school board

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meetings that's right but all of that kind of curriculum all the kind of ideas that are leading to

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school boards hiding the gender identity of minor students from their parents it's all called

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comprehensive sexuality education CSE and I'm going to and there's some stuff that if you're

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listening to this podcast right now you can go to our happening now conversational happening now

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in January 10th 2024 that's right and I reveal some extremely horrific shocking demonic history

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behind how not just playing parenthood behind not just legacy of playing parenthood but how

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playing parenthood created comprehensive sexuality education all the mood porn stuff in the schools

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sometimes it's during sex or health week sometimes it's in the school library but sometimes it's

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actually in the required sex and week at public high schools playing parenthood jack wins 80%

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80% of the public funds for grants to go put that horrific sex that they wrote and then they go

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get the grants that's to go put their own curriculum into the schools yep so what am I trying

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to say well let me try to circle the barn here because I'm getting a little carried away that's

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all right ashera and bail that's right sexual liberation is political control if you sexualize

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a community especially the young minds of innocent children who aren't aware of what's happening to

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them they will eventually kill their children here's the final statement child sacrifice has

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always been the conclusion of sexual liberation as it was in judges six so it is today and all of

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that sprinkled dusted with a religious pixie dust so to speak of knowingly or unknowingly this

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is to pagan deities which we know as demons demonic activity its head has arisen again

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in america's falling headlong fort um so we're we're revealing and exposing all of you guys are

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our new film blown at the white reserves and speaking in churches and you know we're not to the point

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where we where we need to be yet jack and i'm sure you would agree where the the pulpits are ablaze

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with righteous this in america again and we have social transformation and godly men and women are

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running and getting elected and transforming school districts and and overturning laws and and

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restoring protections for marriage and family and children i i i i believe by god's grace if

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if the people of god begin to care more about truth and righteousness and what their father thinks

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about the biggest and their own reputation in 501c3 statuses and being invited to write op-eds in

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the new york times in the washington post if we walk away from the legacy that's been built by big

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evangelicalism i just used that phrase in a sentence not big pharma big eva big evangelicalism

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those who want to place at the table they care more about having their back rubbed by people at the

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world economic forum and the other sort of theological better that's your right for the gospel

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coalition who have done nothing to say preborn children to stand up against the sexualization of

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children and our new film the 1916 project which comes out in 2024 later this year is going to

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blow the top off of what i call the hidden history of the secular moral revolution the architects

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yeah the culture of death shoot through a few of those things just to get people fired up about it

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so for people listening pastor jack they're probably like well this guy's kind of weird i thought

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jack said he was a pro-life speaker why is he spouting off on all this other stuff why because

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all human conflict is ultimately theological that's right that's why you can't like carve out a

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lane in the culture wars and say well i'm a pro-life speaker i just want to say babies well praise god

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i do too yeah but you can't you can't um rip the abortion movement out of the cultural fabric of

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the culture wars and say i just deal with this issue this is what friends with shaffer talked

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about he said that like we tend to deal in in bits and pieces with ideology yeah rather than seeing

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the Christian manifesto yeah that's how then shall we live rather than seeing like how the

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whole thing all goes together right and by the way have you guys notices about the left it's not

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like that with them the the religion of leftism humanism secular progressiveism whatever you

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want to call it they seemingly have a robust religion that right enough that that speaks to all

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the issues of the day within their religious framework meaning meaning the lenses of leftism

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there's a new phrase i just coined provide more pagan clarity to the culture wars for their

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congregants and deacons in the church of humanism then apparently the pure and undefiled religion

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can provide for uh the bloodbought bride of christ to reach that same level of political and spiritual

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clarity according to the christian worldview what do i mean by this here's an example of this have

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you guys noticed how the left always sort of coalesces together absolutely anytime one of their

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core pagan sacraments is compromised right and the left doesn't agree about everything jack no but

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if it comes to trans and kids yep sexualizing them killing them in the womb parental rights undivided

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transgenders and men competing against women they'll they'll literally say things like there's no

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proof that men have a physical advantage over women it's like dude wow secular humanism really

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rots the brain but like anytime one of those core sacraments gets compromised what do the

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what do you unite the the deacons in the religion of humanism do absolutely they unite and they

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set aside any other sort of um you know peripheral political disagreement that unite on those

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core things and their religion their ideology whatever you want to call it it is robust enough

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for them to get in lockstep that's right but we bicker and we argue in chrysendotry and we go

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well that jack hibbs though i mean isn't he just a a political act it has any prostituted his great

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commission duties to the GOP so he can be invited to speak a republican events that jack i don't

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trust that jack hip it really is christianity big enough to be able to provide clarity to issues

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of abortion what about socialism i thought the early church didn't they share and have everything

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in common in that socialism and we bicker and we argue about these issues that actually the bible

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and our historic christian faith speak to very loudly and very clearly absolutely but we seemingly

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can't see that yeah right why and i'm convinced it's because we care more about our reputation

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that's right our 501c3 status and what the Washington post says about us then what god thinks about

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us i got to tell you i had an interesting revelation i should have known this but i didn't

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i had the honor of being at a at a meeting and uh sitting next to me um is a nationally renowned

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attorney uh i'm not going to mention his name because i maybe i shouldn't but he's he is the guy

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and um we were talking and he said because his his specialty is constitutional law yep and i didn't

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realize this he said that a church in the united states does not have to apply for a 501c3

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that's right did you know that they are de facto and they're even dawned on me the fact

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are there a 501c3 de facto a church doesn't have to have a 501c3 it's already exempt based on

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our constitution and our founding fathers and when the irs a few years ago said that all churches

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need a register to be a 501c3 yeah they don't have several including one of my one of my other

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pastor heroes uh scott craig in um in uh south decoda um him and a bunch of other pastors

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get together and said you know what we're actually not even going to register for that because we

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don't have to because what you're saying is illegal yeah you can't require churches to register

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as a 501c3 it's amazing but it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's

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it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's exactly here here here here

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that's right that's right just give us the children just give us the babies right here here just

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just just stay quiet no absolutely you know so listen you guys obviously this has been the fastest

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25 minutes uh ever and so um yet the the time that Seth and I are bringing this uh podcast to you

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right now uh we recently did what we call happening now it's 90 minutes of nonstop this and that

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and um January 10th I believe was the yeah was the day you can look that up by going to

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jackhybs.com jackhybs.com it's there happening now you're going to want to see all of it in its

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full entirety 90 minutes but please keep him in prayer the the time that he could take to tell

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us the things that they have to go through the things that they have to deal with is absolutely

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ridiculous because I promise you this the those with other worldviews don't have to go through

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the hoops that uh that Seth and his teams have to go through you and I are living in a time of

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profound deception brothers and sisters and we need to know the truth but it's not enough to

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know it we've got to do it in fact it's worse to know it and not do it yeah then to know it and to

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just play with it or to take it as some sort of a toy yeah everything that we'll learn from God

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and from his word now we're responsible to do it and so that's why no area of life is off limits

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to the Christian and to that salt and light influence listen as always uh here at real life we believe

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that it's time for us to live out what we believe in it's time for real life and we're grateful

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Seth for you and your ministry like Abraham Kuiper right now and the that's an honor wow

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and the white rose resistance people find out all about it find out all about it Seth

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group is doing a great work get behind them and support him yeah you can go to the whiteroads.life

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learn all about what we're doing if you want to know why plan parenthood's founding board member

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was called the spiritual father of Nazi Germany and is the only American to have had a one-on-one

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meeting with Adolf Hitler after he goes to power yes I said that the founding board member plan

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parent do you want to know how that happened and more go to the happening now not even a conversation

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here the hidden history of the secular moral revolution the architects of the culture of death

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plan parenthood the largest best funded and most profitable 501c3 in American history

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and watch our trailer of the film that is going to reawake in the bloodbub right across in America

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and expose the deeds of darkness the fusions 511 it's called the 1916 project we have not publicly

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released the trailer yet you can only watch the trailer to the 1916 project by going and watching

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the happening now conversation so watching us premiere for the first time publicly on January 10th

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