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I got to have to be honest with you. I was a little bummed with Trump when he snatched you away

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from Huntington Beach. Why in the world would you leave such a powerful position in the Department

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of Justice to come back to California? So my story's an interesting one. I left a lucrative career

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to fight for the people. Imagine if we could return California back to the people. Take it out

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of the hands of the political elite in Sacramento and give it back to the people of California.

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amen or yes, then that rating will encourage others to listen. Now, open your hearts to what God's

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word has to say to you. Here is Jack Hibbs. Hey, everybody. Welcome to the Jack Hibbs podcast.

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The Jack Hibbs show. We're excited for you guys to be with us and we're going to a great time

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today. We have with us and it's an honor to have with us. Michael Gates and Michael Gates

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is running for attorney general of the state of California right where we're sitting and he has

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served in the Trump administration as deputy assistant attorney general here in the United States,

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but he has given that up so to speak. It looks plain in a moment to come back home to fight for

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California and I got to tell you folks, I think you know this. I am tired of people writing

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California off. It's the greatest state in this union. It's the most beautiful and by far I think

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it's the most resourceful and it's not gold and it's not just oil. It's brains and hearts and

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minds and the spirit that we'll see in this man today. Michael, it's awesome to have you with us

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and I listen, we're brothers in Christ and we praise the Lord. I don't want you to feel uncomfortable

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in any way. I want you to just let it out man. What in the world? Tell us a little bit about yourself

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but you got to answer this. Why in the world would you leave such a a powerful position in the

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Department of Justice to come back to California? But before you answer that, who's Michael Gates?

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Well, thank you so much for having me. It's an honor to be with you and we've done this before so

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I know you have a fantastic church. You've got a great reputation and you've got a great, great

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congregation and audience and so I love sharing all of this with all of you. So thank you for having

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me. So my story is it's an interesting one. So I was born in the Midwest but when I was a kid,

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my folks moved to Huntington Beach, California and so I've been a California guy my whole life

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and I love it. Not only the weather but there's just something about California. It's just so

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different than any of the place in the country. Certainly different than the Midwest that I was from.

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My mom was always enamored with Hollywood and just the the pizzazz and you know back then when

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we came here, you know, it was a relatively conservative state politically but I think what's

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most important isn't just that it was a red state versus now a blue state but you know it was a

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safe state. We didn't have rampant crime. We did not have skyrocketing costs of living here.

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We did not have exorbitant gas taxes. We did not have the fraud and the waste and abuse that we're

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hearing about now. California and I said this this morning at my press conference when I launched my

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run for attorney general. Simply put California has lost its way and it's lost its way because the

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elite Sacramento class of leaders is just completely divorced and out of touch with everyday Californians

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and that's why I'm running. I am very passionate about politics. I'm very very very passionate about

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the law. I tell people all the time I love the law. I'm a lover of the law. I'm very much into

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justice. You know there's mercy too but justice and what I have seen in California now for years

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is just rampant injustice. It's injustice to everyday Californians who are working so hard

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Pastor Jack just to make ends meet and then the odacity they work so hard long days blood sweat

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and tears just to put food on the table. They get home and turn on the radio or the TV and they hear

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about how the political class in Sacramento has squandered their money. Yep. Like it's shocking to

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me. It's such an insult. These are Californians who are literally on the brink right financially

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they're on the brink and they turn on the radio and TV and Newsom is saying oh yeah we lost

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$24 billion of your tax money like it's you know it's supposed to go to solving the homeless problem

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but oh it's lost it's gone it's disappeared and oh well and then he moves on like he didn't ask

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the attorney general to investigate where it went. He did not ask for an investigation. Let's

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find this money. Yeah he probably dare not. Let's find this money that belongs to the taxpayers

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that we are shepherds of and we've lost it right so the reason I'm running I've been a fighter

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on my life you know my press conference this morning I was telling I was telling the folks who

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were there in the media look I was not born with a silver spoon in my mouth. My folks I came from

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a big Catholic family have had a lot of siblings very very blue collar and frankly we spent

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many days at the food pantry at the local church for food clothing and diapers. My folks grounded

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out they worked hard paycheck to paycheck had a big family and they taught me look pray depend

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on God but you have to go out and fight. Yeah that's right whatever you are going to have in life

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that's right you have to fight for it and so at a very young age I mean I think you know might

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be some of the Irish stock I have in me but at a very young age I learned you have to go out and

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fight and really make a difference right and so that's really where my career path took a turn

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in 2014 I actually left private practice which was very lucrative I was a partner at a law firm

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in 2014 I ran for city attorney in Huntington Beach and I got elected right got reelected in 2018

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and got reelected in 2022 so I was the elected city attorney for 10 years in Huntington Beach

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and I loved the fight there because I got to represent one of the greatest cities in the city

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California it is amazing yeah and taking on Sacramento Sacramento so I have a record of

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fighting Sacramento which is yes really makes me the perfect candidate to run for attorney general

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because now I can I've learned so much I know where the fights are I sort of know where the

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bodies are buried I know what the issues are I can go to Sacramento and make even I think a

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greater difference than what I've been able to do as the city attorney of Huntington Beach but

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to directly answer your question I love to fight for the people I really do it's a passion of mine

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I left a lucrative career right as a partner at a firm yeah to fight for the people and I believe

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in this state I know that this country is a gift from God I believe that this state is a gift

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from God and I'm I'm not giving up on it like you yeah you're opening remarks you know you're not

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giving up Pastor Jack I'm not giving up and I'm gonna keep fighting and and so many people have

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said look look you're at the height of your career when you're the deputy assistant attorney general

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for the US Department of Justice just you know last year that's the height you know why don't you do

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something different why or why don't you retire right like that was amazing I'm like no I've

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got more fighting me yeah I want to take this to Sacramento and I want to fight for the folks

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imagine to your point too if we could return California back to the people yeah take it out of

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the hands of the political elite in Sacramento and give it back to the people of California

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and my slogan is I want to make California safe for families yeah and I want safe communities

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because when we can reduce crime and get the homeless off our streets and make our environment safe

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yes our families will prosper yes and our businesses will want to stay and prosper they have

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been leaving in droves because crime is up taxes are up it's just a hostile work environment to do

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business in right it's a hostile work environment to prosper in and I want to reverse that yeah I

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want to work very hard and aggressively to reverse that we can make California a welcoming state

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again that's right a prosperous state a family friendly state and so I'm all in yeah I'm all in

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yeah it's amazing because it's such a great place going back in time now I'm going to sound like

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a dinosaur to to maybe you are certainly some of the young people who watch our podcasts but I

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remember growing up in Southern California and in writing for example in the summer writing my

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bike to the beach being gone for 12 13 14 hours you know I had to check in with a nickel you know

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to call home but life was safe you could do that and I did that all my young life and then I go

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to the Reagan years people forget Ronald Reagan was our governor and this state was the place to be

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and and then I don't know what happened maybe you do but something I don't know if we got distracted

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or whatever but and I'll just be blunt you're not saying this I'm saying this that

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there it used to be a two-party battle and with that there was some sort of balance there was an

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ebb and flow but now for far too long it has been a one-party state people will say oh the Republicans

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don't know what they're doing well maybe some Republicans don't but we know this for a fact proven

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in California is that the Democrats absolutely either a do not know what they're doing in California

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or scarier than that is that they do know what they're doing in California because I have gone

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to to the Capitol and I've testified over various issues and Michael I got to tell you

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I was shocked at the level of on the level that's the wrong I couldn't believe the people I

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that I was having to answer to their skill sets were so low their inability to communicate

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and articulate and they have positions of power where they're writing bills and they're passing

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bills with the supermajority where California now has become a laughing stock of dumb laws

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and as you and I sit here I was hearing news today that there's maybe you know about this but

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there's some sort of possible threat by Newsom to punish billionaires in California do you know

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what that's about I do and to answer your earlier point it's a little bit of they're incompetent

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and then it's a little bit of they do know what they're doing and they don't care even if it harms

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off I think it's a combination of the two there is an initiative to to exact a tax a wealth tax

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on billionaires and if that were ever come to pass and be signed into law or become law that would

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just be devastating it's not because simply that you know maybe the math doesn't work for the

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billionaires what that's that's not that's not the point on the one hand no wealth tax would ever

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plug the holes that Newsom and you want to have created in our budget and in our economic system

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here in California that's that's that's the one issue but the bigger issue in my mind is it's

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just more hostility towards Californians because now they're going to drive out the billionaires

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before that ever goes into law right so we've already heard I don't know if you've seen this but

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I was reading an article yesterday before so last year two trillion dollars left California

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and now this year I think already a trillion has left California that's staggering

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that's frankly devastate that's right and so the the Sacramento's got to change we have got to do

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better we have got to get back to serving the people of California so yeah I mean I just think

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it's a lot of incompetence and and it's a lot of they just don't care and it's like I said

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they're out of touch they're completely divorced and you know that's the thing that you know I

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bring I think to this to this campaign or this candidacy is you know I have so much experience

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you know you talk about they're incompetent please tell us yes I mean and I don't mean to pet

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myself on the back but but if you normally attorney general candidates are just career prosecutors

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you know normally attorney general candidates are hey look I've done 25 or 30 years at this DA's

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officer I was the DA and so I've prosecuted tons of crime look I've done that too I've prosecuted

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a lot of crime on behalf of Huntington Beach when I was at the DOJ's office last year I was in charge

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of a whole team of attorneys who are prosecuting criminal crimes criminal hate crimes and things

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like that I've done that too in fact in Huntington Beach I started a criminal prosecutor program

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myself at the city level in 2017 in direct response to prop 47 and 57 yep because with the passage

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of 47 and 57 in 2014 crimes went up quality of life crimes went up so I literally started a

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criminal prosecutor division in the city attorney's office in 2017 because of that crime dropped

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by double digits in Huntington Beach and it's been dropping ever since yep that I have that I've

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done that what else I've also prosecuted elections laws at the federal level I sued California when

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I was with the DOJ I sued Orange County California when I was with the DOJ we sued not only to enforce

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to ensure that there's a voter registration system in the state that's clean and effective

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but also in legally compliant law compliant but also that there are clean voter rolls we sued

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over dirty voter rolls and as we know that clean voter rolls equal clean elections right so

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I've and I was in court arguing those cases myself I've done that no candidate for attorney general

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can ever could ever say that I've been fighting the state of California for the past 10 years over

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legislative overreach right no candidate for attorney general can say that and has ever been

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able to say that I have ushered in voter ID into Huntington Beach which was the first and only in

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the state I was the architect of that law and I defended it in a drove nuisance crazy right so

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so whether it's voter ID or fighting the state over high density housing mandates which I

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did for 10 years or elections laws I have done all of these things and frankly the attorney general

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is responsible for all those things so frankly I am the perfect fit in terms of experience and skill

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to be plugged in as attorney general clean up our elections stop legislative overreach fix sort

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of the housing mandate yes on flipped right and a fight crime and homelessness I worked with our local

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police department in Huntington Beach for the past five six years when the homelessness spiked

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because of our work with our police department homeless the homeless population in Huntington Beach

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reduced by over 60 percent there is a way to get our homeless off the streets yes and Sacramento

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just simply refuses to do it so and here's the thing this is the difference between I think sort of

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the I'll just call it far left leaning governing philosophy and everybody else in California this

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is the difference yeah they believe the far left liberal elites in Sacramento they believe

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that you and I as Californians have to live with a certain number of things a certain number of

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burdens right we have to live with a certain amount of homeless on the street we have to that's what

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they believe they believe we have to live with a certain amount of crimes they believe that we have

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to they believe that we need we should be able to suck up or live with a certain gas tax high

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gas tax they believe that they believe that we should live with a cost of living that's out of control

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they believe that that's the difference they believe that all of that is wrong

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we mean and candidates like Steve Hilton and others want to get into office in California

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so we can say no Californians shouldn't have to live with those high crime rates they shouldn't have

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to live with those homeless populations they shouldn't have to live with high gas taxes

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we just believe the opposite the exact Californians shouldn't because when they don't

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Pastor Jack they're free they get their individual liberties they're free to spend money they're

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free to travel they're free to walk down the street in their neighborhoods and not feel like

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they're going to get mugged they're free they have more freedom when they don't have those burdens

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imposed upon them you know what you just said sorry flashback squirrel moment for me so what you

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just articulated I saw in my mind getting on the soaring over California ride at at California

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adventure at Disneyland and it shows you old California it shows you Jack Northrup Northrup

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aerospace it shows you Howard Hughes it shows you all of these great things that took place Curtis

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these the aviation industry think of the computer industry think about the freeway network

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originated here everything was so epic and cutting edge California that we became the the end

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of the world because people were free to create think about if Apple or Microsoft or I don't know

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who again Northrup or whoever for them to try to do a business all over again in their garage

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the local governments would shut them down right there's none of that going to happen again

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that kind of stuff that the state was free to create to make money to build business to hire people

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to be that place where 49 other states said honey pack up the car get the kids we're going to

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California and of course now once again here we go I just saw it again California the mass

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exodus of talent and of resources out of this state and you know people are leaving here crying

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about it I hear about it as a pastor all the time they don't want to leave California and so

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do you believe I think I know the answer this I just want to hear your passion do you believe

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that this is the time finally for even Democrats that vote with some form of reason

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could actually write this ship I do and I I believe and look as somebody for the past 10 years

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as the city attorney of Huntington Beach who's been in politics and has I guess developed a skill

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for having a good appreciation for what the public sentiment is what people's concerns are what

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their priorities are which you know it takes a while to understand the community that's around it

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does take a while it's you know I know that California right now is fed up yes I know that Republicans

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independents and Democrats alike Californians are smarter than the political elites and Sacramento

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give them credit for absolutely they're waking up and you know the thing is is the Sacramento elites

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stepped in it right like they didn't do themselves any favors like to watch LA burn like it did last

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year uh shocking um and then for instance for the attorney general to look at that and say hey

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you know there are some serious transgressions there there might be some serious crimes there

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let's investigate this he took a pass on all that he didn't he didn't even bother to look to see

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you know was the first response adequate did something go wrong did something happen that led

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up to right you know what happened and you know what allowed those fires to burn what allowed

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LA to burn no interest no no concern and so you know we just have to get back to like I said common

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sense governance I don't think running a state like this is that difficult look we've got we've

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got leaders in office right now yeah that are simply making selfish decisions out of touch decisions

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if we get back to basics and simply govern for the people just focus on reducing crime just focus

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on reducing homelessness just clean up the fraud like look if there are stories about fraud if

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there are concerns and it's about fraud investigated that right fix it don't turn to blind eye to it

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that's right I um I was asked some time ago uh by a person that was running for office um they asked

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me what my thoughts were they asked me I mean I wasn't running I'm not running they asked me what

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I thought about the homeless problem and I said well you don't remember something uh I was born

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raised here I remember when there wasn't a homeless problem and well what you know kind of like

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cut them off guard and I said well you know what it doesn't have to be because if you go back

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10 15 20 25 30 40 years ago there was not in fact there were vagrancy laws where somebody passed

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in through who was a bum and I mean a real bum they wouldn't work if they were handed a job they

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didn't want to work they were a bum you had to hit the road you were driven out of town um so

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there's a way to deal with it it's just the will yeah where is the will for those to support the

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laws that are on the books I love what you just said a moment ago somebody might think California

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you know it's like a country well yes it is but it's most unique in that if you just let the people

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do their job and live their lives right people want excellence in this state right and our history

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has shown that right and we have a history I think if you look at the history like to your point

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about how we used to be safer and and pretty much zero crime zero homeless like look if Sacramento

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would get out of the way right and let local prosecutors do their job let local police departments

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do their job it's music you know one of the things that's particularly frustrating for me because in

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addition to all of the other experiences I've had I've also literally personally defended police

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officers in court when they were sued for their for doing their job for doing their job for doing

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their job um in fact there was one case I had a couple years ago where a plaintiff came in and

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sued two of our police officers for an officer involved shooting for twenty million dollars and

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that's a case that most states would or I'm sorry most cities would just settle right they would

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just settle it like twenty million dollars oh let's give them ten million dollars to go away

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and you know what I said no and my city council backed me on this I believe in our police officers

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I believed in their use of force I believed in what they did was just I took it to trial there's a

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five week trial and we got a complete defense verdict excellent a complete defense verdict so

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if you let the police and the local prosecutors manage their own towns manage their own cities

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fight crime then crime is going to be reduced I believe strongly that there's an agenda coming out

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of Sacramento and I said that's a moment ago that they literally literally believe that we as

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Californians should and have to live with a certain amount of crime they want that for us

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and that's clear as day by the results they want us to live with a certain amount of homeless

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because homeless could be solved overnight let me share something with you you know we had a

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border problem under Biden right tens of thousands of people would cross every single day

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absolutely right I saw it I went down there I watched it all we heard was all we need immigration

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reform we needed immigration reform we need immigrant and I would tell turn to my wife and say

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there's already a bunch of laws on the books we don't leave more laws we just need to

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just shut these laws the doors right so then Trump wins he gets in and he's like you know what we're

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simply going to enforce the laws that are on the books and guess what no more border crossings

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and crime and homelessness in California is the same way yeah there are already crimes on the books

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let's enforce them yeah and on homeless there's already anti-camping anti-loitering right and there's

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anti-public intoxication we have those laws let the local police enforce them we need prosecutors

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to back them and we need an attorney general who's going to expect our prosecutors to back our local

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enforcement and I'm that guy yeah I am going to ensure that our district attorneys are supporting

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our police and when I brought in our ushered in our criminal prosecutor program in Huntington

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Beach crime dropped because our police knew that I had their back well I was watching you

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and the city during that time and I watched because I'm I may be ugly but I'm not stupid I watched

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under your care the property values in Huntington Beach rise and Huntington Beach became a beach

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city that was wise to invest in because it had good governance and it made a world of difference

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in fact you guys dramatically influenced Newport Beach I don't know how much they learned from you

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but they certainly saw what excellent governance looks like before we lose any of our viewers if

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they might have to head off to work or go wherever well how can people support you well thank you

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for that if they go to gates for ag.com all the G A T E S the number four ag.com there's a website

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it's got my bio and introduction it's got some of the issues that I'm working on there's an

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explanation for some things and there's a there's a link a donations link and as you know I told you

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this before we started the program you know this is going to be a grassroots effort has to be I've

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launched this I had my press conference this morning I've already had overwhelming response

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some donations are already coming in I'm very happy about that if your audience if you're

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congregation anybody who's watching says I believe in this guy yes um we need a new attorney general

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we need to support this guy yes and we need to take on Bonta they can go to that website and I'm

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asking them to please consider clicking the donations link because even if they can only donate

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$25 oh my goodness that's massive that's massive and I know you have a you have a great audience

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on your broad support and imagine if everybody just said hey look I'm gonna I'm gonna follow

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Pastor Jack's lead I'm gonna click on his website I'm gonna click on the donation

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donation absolutely and I'm just gonna donate 25 or $100 that will add up and that is gonna

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be tremendous for us everybody think about that for a second 25 bucks 25 bucks if a million

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people send 25 bucks this election is is done and you might say well Jack you know that's you

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know what about the Lord yes the Lord but listen here's the thing we're gonna talk about the Lord

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in a moment but uh the scripture says in Proverbs 29 verse 2 it says that when a righteous man

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is empowered the people rejoice but when the wicked rule the people groan California has been

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groaning and it's time for us to rejoice but like John Jay the first Supreme Court Justice of

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the United States John Jay one of our founding fathers he said it's preferable that we elect

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Christians into public office can you believe the first Supreme Court Justice of the United States

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said that it's because we are founded upon Judeo Christian worldview values and we are a

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republic we are constitutional republic which by the way if you notice democrats can't say those

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two words they actually can't they cannot say constitutional republic they can only use the word

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democracy which we are not we are a constitutional republic folks if brothers and sisters if good

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men and women like Michael Gates running for attorney general here in the state of California get

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into office then this is exactly the direction that we need to go because it's God honoring for

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one thing but listen honestly even if Michael Gates was an atheist and he's not with his expertise

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and his love for the state you should vote for people like that but we have an added bonus this

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is God providing the answer to so many people who say oh I can't vote for anybody because none of

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them are believers we have a believer sitting here right with us right now and so tell us a little

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bit about your family yeah your faith yeah yeah no I'm happy to and as you are proud to be God

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fearing and to be Christian and not afraid to invoke Jesus's name likewise I am too and a lot

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of politicians get up and say a lot of things yeah a lot of politicians will get up and say oh I

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love Jesus too I will tell you I think it's in large part because my parents their commitment to

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each other their love their commitment to God their commitment to faith and the large family had

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a lot of siblings it was just such a rich environment to grow up in in in loving the Lord right loving

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God we went to church every Sunday we would say prayers as a family almost every day my mother

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beat into us to say our nighttime prayers and our morning prayers right so it was just a way

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of life when we were kids and I carried that forward to be candid I don't want to call my wife out

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but she was agnostic I'm growing up even into high school and she converted and she has embraced

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Jesus and so we are we have married almost 30 years we have five children thank you and four

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grandchildren what yes thank you I know I know it's it's a miracle I know my wife is here to

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look too young for all that yeah but but it's it's a testament to God's guidance in my life

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and God's providence the gifts and the blessings that he's bestowed upon me and and you know this

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kind of goes back and answers one of your earlier questions why are you doing this I've been blessed

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so much particularly with the skill set and the education and experience that God has given me

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that I feel like I owe it frankly to California to pursue this but you know I pray every day

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I love praying because I truly love Jesus Christ I'm in love with him and I it for me it's just

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part of my life yeah and if if I give up and lose everything in my life I won't lose that I'm

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going to I will absolutely continue to be faithful continue to serve him I prayed this morning

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before my press conference my wife and I prayed on the way here as we sat in traffic for an hour

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and a half yes and so we're we really are truly constantly in prayer constantly asking for guidance

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and frankly that's why I'm here and that's how I got here yeah because I asked God for guidance

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and he guided me here yeah this was not random if you kind of sort of knew more detail and more

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of the circumstances you'd be like it's a wonder that I'm even here running for California Attorney General

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so so it's just remarkable in a lot of ways but not surprising yeah because I pray I ask for

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that guidance the grace the knowledge the wisdom and he gives it to me and he says yes he does it's

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funny because I was trying my wife that God's got a sense of humor we pray and pray and pray we

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pray and pray pray so hard and we never know exactly what tomorrow brings and then when it happens

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we're like oh my gosh that's amazing we're surprised yeah I know but but but then we say but we

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asked for this right like we prayed for this so we shouldn't be surprised right funny I do the same

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thing yeah yeah I'm embarrassed admitted but it's the same thing yeah and my my staff will laugh at me

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on Sunday morning because before service I'll actually be wondering is anyone going to come today

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is anyone going to show up and then you know thousands of people come but every day it's just

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another step forward in God's grace his mercy and his grace but what what are some of the things

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that I should be asking you that it's burning and Michael's heart to share maybe I haven't touched

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on it um but yeah is there something that I'm missing that these people on this show need to know

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well I think um in part of it is just my authentic commitment to doing what's right for the

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state of California I think that's an important point because it's it's hard to I think it's hard

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for voters and and viewers to sort of pierce through and find out who is this guy he's you know

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he's a politician look first of all I'm I'm a son of God right like first foremost I'm a family man

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I'm a patriot I love this country yes and then I'm a politician right like so that that so I see

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myself as a lawyer a top lawyer I love the law you know there's there's so much about who I am that

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really isn't politician but I'm I'm glad to be here I'm looking forward to this race I'm glad

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I have the political experience that I've had in the past so it this is real for me this is real

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for me on the one hand on the other hand you know if if the if the audience can take away you know

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what does this guy bring to the table I think a lot yes and a lot means I can do a lot of good

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in the as the attorney general again I I fought elections laws I fought to enforce elections

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laws at the federal level and at the local level in California I have been there I have done

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that I have actually been in court I've defended our police in many many lawsuits in court I was

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a experienced accomplished trial attorney in court defending our police and before that are

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Orange County Sheriff's so I have been in court for years defending our police I not only

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fought crime as a prosecutor I started a criminal prosecutor program in Huntington Beach yep I

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want to do all of this for California in fact you know a few of the to-do's that I've put together

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for when I get into office one of which is to enforce prop 36 on day one right we've got new

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some in Bontan saying oh we can't we don't have funding you know what Malarkey that is the law

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of the land the voters passed prop 36 yep and we need we have a duty to enforce it but also I

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want to reach out to cities and say hey look if your police are being sued for their use of force

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attorney general's office will be there to offer resources and guidance on defending

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a police I want to help cities more cities start their own criminal prosecutor programs in the city

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at the city level just to put it into context for you in Orange County there are 34 cities

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Huntington Beach when I started that prosecutor program in 2017 we were the second city only

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the second city to have a city level prosecutor program I want city level prosecutors in every city

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there are 482 cities in the city of California I want 482 city level prosecutors fighting crime

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alongside their district attorneys so there are things I want to do I want to help cities become

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charter cities if there are general law cities and they want to become a charter city I want to

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help them become a charter city good so there are a lot of things that we can do pastor jack love it

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to return the power back to the people local community exactly local control where you feel a

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part in parcel with your community you have a stake in it's it matters what goes on within your

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city limits matters to you exactly that's old school right and and these are no other attorney general

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candidate would be talking like this and certainly Bonta would never be talking like this and attorney

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general Bonta frankly I'm not sure he ever spent a day in court where I've spent my entire career

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in court I know how to win these cases I know how to prosecute and I know how to do this for the

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American people I'm going to be nice right now about yes okay so um you mentioned something

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earlier about how for example they knew some of his response or Bonta's response to uh

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prop 36 is we don't have them funds to do that but they certainly find the funds to do all of

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their really stupid stuff uh what did I just see today or yesterday that the California solar

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industry uh just collapsed on itself yeah in fact that crazy thing going up i15 yeah they're

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they're taking that all down billions of dollars spent lost gone we've got Gavin Newsom's uh

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railway thing that I don't know what insane they always find my money your money to do their

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thing yeah but um I'll be the one who says this don't even you know I don't want you to get yourself

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in trouble it seems to me as a spectator that if I'm going to be gracious and nice the Democrat

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party in California is extremely um uneducated and um just as a horrific low bar for excellence

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that's if I'm being nice if I'm not being nice they have a vision to come together to craft the

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most egregious bills and laws to destroy American freedoms here in California and to rob us of our

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protections and to rob us of our money so much so that if I was a bad if I had bad thoughts I would

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think that they are intentionally trying to destroy California and thus the nation uh because

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I'm I do if I was a bad person I would be thinking they are deliberately they're not dumb they're

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they're like an army trying to destroy this place intentionally well in the way I describe it

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I have in the past and I will as as the campaign moves forward is it's really a wanton disregard

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for the will of the people um not implementing doing what it takes to implement and effectuate

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prop 36 is an absolute wanton disregard by Sacramento elite for the will of people that was voted on

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and that was passed and that should be fully implemented the new budget that Newsom introduced

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a week ago has not a single dollar committed for this next year to prop 36 how is it

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that an initiative can be placed on the ballot it can pass with the majority and then Sacramento

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just says well we're just going to pretend it doesn't exist or we're going to ignore it it's an

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absolute wanton disregard um and so that's part of what I was saying earlier that that the the

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Sacramento elite they're just completely out of touch they're completely divorced from Californians

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divorced from reality and it's in large part because they think they're better than us they

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think they're smarter than us and when we pass dumb laws like prop 36 they're just going to pretend

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that never happened and they literally they ignore the will of the people all the time all the time

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all the time and and they they they do us because they do things like if you go back and look at the

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language of prop 4757 Kamala Harris literally blessed language that expressly stated that this these

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props were about making communities safer yeah when those were but 47 specifically designed

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opposite fake felonies and make them misdemeanors and then you can't even enforce those misdemeanors

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according to the prosecutors and so it literally was the opposite yeah so they are they total

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total disrespect for Californians you mentioned earlier and I can feel it from people I hear it from

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people why should I even register to vote why should I vote it's the voter fraud it's so messed up

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California will never turn around but again my argument is if you have that attitude it is

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definitely guaranteed not to turn around you got to get involved in the fight you got to do the

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right thing no matter what bottom line is that is it possible I know you did it in Huntington I

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mean I think I know the answer I'm just being sarcastic right sure is it possible that when you

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become attorney general that you can recover somehow the voting integrity of the entire state

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so there are state laws that compromise frankly voter integrity including SB I think it's SB 1147

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if my memory serves correctly where the state passed a law in 2024 to ban cities to ban cities from

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having local voter ID laws and that was directly in response to Huntington Beach's voter

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that's right right so it was new legislation designed to ban punished he and that was new

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some angry right but what the state the legislature has done is they've effectively and this is you

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know this is the type of thing I'll get into when I'm attorney general but they've effectively

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violated the California Constitution excuse me because the California Constitution under Article 11

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Section 5 provides for charter cities to be able to manage their own local police departments

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without interference from the state and to manage the manner of elections locally without

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interference from the state and a whole host of other local control matters right local governance

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matters so they're legislatively ignoring the California Constitution and we are going to get back

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when I'm attorney general get back to a constitution driven form of government both state and

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federal because another thing that resonates and I think frankly has offended a lot of Californians

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is this whole issue of Title 9 right yes and whether it's you know men and girls sports or females

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whatever whether it's sports education whatever and so we're going to get back to the honoring title

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9 in all of our sports and education yes throughout the state of California there are laws out there

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whether federal laws the US Constitution California Constitution that are higher authorities that again

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our legislature demonstrating wanton disregard they're just ignoring it and unfortunately

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a lot of our courts are sort of rubber stamping whatever comes out of the legislature excuse me

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yep and when I'm attorney general we are going to be putting out opinions explanations

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for how the attorney general interprets the constitution and we are going to be making

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probably new arguments in court if not just maybe older older arguments that have been abandoned

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sure that hey there's a California Constitution here that allows cities to do this or that or the

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other thing or whatever there are federal laws like Title 9 that we have to honor right right and so

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we are going to be a constitution driven attorney general office and that is going to be the

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starting point and the constitution is not going to be something to be disregarded or forgotten

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or challenged by the state legislature so good we are going to get back to Constitution driven

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form of justice in California I promise you I guarantee it it's awesome the scriptures tell us

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that we need to return back to the former foundations I mean these things over the over man's life

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on this earth have been proven tried and tested and so yeah I believe you know our theme has been

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for these last I don't know 10 years maybe longer come back California which we utilize every

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two years whenever there's election we inform the electorate what's what is on the ballot you know

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how do you register to vote a lot of people don't realize that that even a church can host voter

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registration we can have town halls all those kinds of things but Michael I want to encourage you

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Gina Gleason and myself and a few others we've been standing in this water for a very long time

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and we were mocked we were ridiculed we were told that we were you know bad Christians for being

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political which that was never the case we were Christians and I was a pastor educating people

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about their constitutional rights that I believe are given to us by God all of that said now we're

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at a point where for example we're going to be coming up pretty soon in the wonderful city of

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Huntington Beach we are going to be hosting our second event of pastors stay wide that will come

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to the Huntington Hyatt they're going to come we're paying for that we're going to give them a

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night and meals and we're going to have speakers educating them on their biblical and civic

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duty to get involved because that is how this nation works and that's how this state works I'd

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love to stop by I think we're going to make sure that you do stop by so having said that I believe

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that when things look bad when you're standing for what's right and things look bad when it looks

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like you're about ready to lose I mean this this not the history of our nation wash how is it

448
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that Washington lost almost every battle and wound up winning the war when things look bad the

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believers not to pack up and go home we're to keep standing and and so I'm just thrilled that

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you're running when you text me I forget when it was you said I'm running for attorney general

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it's just like yes I got to be honest with you I was a little bummed with Trump when

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when he snatched you away from Huntington Beach I happened to have been in the Roosevelt room

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and Trump was about this far away I was sitting at this seat where you're at you would have been

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Trump and there was about 12 of us in the room and the world talking and and I said President

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Trump please don't forget he was he was talking about all these great things strides that he's

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been making in these other states he never once brought up California I said President Trump please

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remember California and he said what but California is gone and well this is I didn't tell him

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this part California may be gone but I do know that his biggest fundraising events have been in

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Southern California so well I wanted to say well it may be gone but you like its money but the

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point is California no sir I don't I can't give up like that well maybe your voice in his mind is

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haunting him because now he's you know turned his sights on California with regard to all of the

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concerns about fraud and things like that so so there may be something there and maybe we can give

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you credit for that who knows but look and this again goes back to when when you said you know why

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why are you running Pastor Jack I'm just so hopeful I'm I'm always full of hope and my wife says

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oftentimes you know I'm like stupidly optimistic why are you so optimistic and for me my wife calls

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me E or yeah but for me you know hope is a virtue yeah yeah and for me to be hopeful is is

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pretty natural I and I am very hopeful for California and that's sort of what fuels my fight

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my my motivation and I frankly think that we're getting to the point and again the

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circle's back to another question you had earlier where the general population Democrat

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independent Republican alike the tide is turning a little bit and I think they're becoming they're

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going to become or they're becoming more hopeful that there are better days yeah just look at

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Steve Hilton yep right how is it well a couple things one why aren't there any leading Democrat

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candidates for governor that we have been sucking the oxygen out of the room in terms of media

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coverage for the past year and a half yeah they don't exist they don't exist senator padea took a

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pass right want to just took a pass yeah everybody's taking a pass nobody wants to touch this

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governor's race that's right on the Democrat side right right so that tells you something that's

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right that things are broken in California and and it needs fixing but I I think the fact that Steve

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Hilton is the leader among he's I way ahead of all the Democrats on fundraising too yeah I don't

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if you saw that I did see 5.7 million in the bank and and he's got over 30,000 different contributors

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which is what I'm hoping for I'm I'm hoping for yes that you can help us get over 30,000 gates for

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a g a g dot org or com com gates for a g dot com I gave I gave one of your guys my QR code so

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hopefully that hopefully that'll pop up on the screen they'll do it yeah but um but I think that

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that should tell you a lot that speaks volumes that Hilton is way ahead of all the Democrat

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candidates with 5.7 in the bank 5.7 million in the bank he's got over 30,000 different contributors

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there's this grounds well and I've been telling people really for a year that there's a lot of

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sort of political topsy turvy or unrest in California and I do think a lot of it came from the

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palisades fires and and how people are just unforgiving when it comes to the way Karen Bass and

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other leaders have handled that and right exactly right totally absolutely rightfully so right

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but I do think we're at this point and so I'm very very hopeful yeah this year that if we can really

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get Californians to take action to not simply sit on their couch and say I'm a Democrat or I'm

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an independent or I'm a Republican and I don't like what's going on in California I don't want

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them to just throw up their hands and say but either my vote doesn't matter or it doesn't matter

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or it wouldn't matter if I did anything I don't want them to think that this time that's right I

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really want them to have hope and if they could have the hope that I have for this state

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if they could say you know what I am going to take action I'm going to go to Steve Hilton's

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website or I'm going to go to Michael Gates's website I'm going to get involved in this attorney

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general race whether it's to sign up and endorse him I I've actually on my website get

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involuntary right and so uniquely on my website I'm asking for any member of the community to endorse

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me a lot of times you see a politician say oh I want to have a senator endorse me or whatever

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actually I'm getting those endorsements as well the Orange County Sheriff Don Barnes just

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endorse me yesterday great so we're getting those endorsements but I want the community to endorse

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me yeah I want my people my neighbors my friends and neighbors to sign up and endorse me yeah

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because their endorsement matters as much to me as the lofty endorsements right I want absolutely

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to do this as a team and so if we can get people a groundswell of people to say I'm going to take

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action I'm going to click on that website I'm going to put my name in and I'm going to endorse

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Michael Gates for attorney general even though I'm an accountant and I'm not a politician or even

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though I'm a construction worker and I'm not a politician even though I want all the even those

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out there all the forgotten people who feel like California has left them the leadership has left

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them I want them to join the team and if they can like you said earlier make a donation of $25

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$50 $100 imagine if we got a million people to do that exactly why not why not why not so now is

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the time Pastor Jack right people need to be invigorated they need to have a little bit of passion

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and say I'm going to do something to make a difference well to follow up with what you just said

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and the challenge that he just gave us um I'll say it this way the those who you would think would

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never would never ditch the Democrat party we know for a fact I'm talking about people in the

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Santa Monica Malibu Hollywood Bel Air Brentwood areas the Burbank's okay the Encinos those cities

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where some of the richest people in America live they are fed up and when they're home and this

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is not a few you know this when their homes of these elites have been invaded by El Salvadorian

518
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gang members they're so fed up and angry that we've heard them say I'm done now yeah it's over

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I am I'm not going to leave my mansion in Bel Air but what I am going to do is vote differently

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now yeah and so by you running I just I'm looking at you and my lungs are filling up with some

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air because you're an answer to prayer and we're just thrilled and excited yeah to be with you

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on this launch today I do believe today was your day it was an official launch I'm just excited

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about this but I want you to know that whatever we can do to help you out along the way we're

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going to be with you all the way through and well let me if you don't mind let me let me let me cast

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you know what you said in these terms look wanting zero crime in your neighborhoods is nonpartisan

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that's right wanting homeless off the street and into places where they can get the services they

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need is nonpartisan that's right wanting lower gas taxes is nonpartisan wanting local control

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is nonpartisan even on those housing fights we've got Los Angeles fighting the state of California

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because of these massive high density projects going into areas of Los Angeles that people don't

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want it there either exactly a lot of the issues we're going to be talking about on the campaign

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trail Pastor Jack it's nonpartisan why because it's common sense we've got Democrats who agree

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with us we've got independence who agree with us and Republicans and I'm going to tell you

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another thing you know we're going to be speaking directly to the Latino community good because they

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are the forgotten people that's right there are the abused people I think Democrats take them for

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grand absolutely and Republicans really frankly have never spoken to them and so we are going to

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have a massive outreach and we're going to speak to them in Spanish too part of my speech this morning

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at the press conference was given delivered in Spanish I want our abuelitas to be able to go to

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their local Mercado sin miedo right without fear yes we want our our grandmothers to be able to walk

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to their local stores without fear and that's not happening in a lot of neighborhoods right now

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and so we literally want to return California to the people we want to return the streets to the

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community that is to let them have their street and safety we want them to be safe and all of this

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is nonpartisan that's right that's what's so frustrating the Democrat elites in Sacramento may get

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partisan but they falsely cast it as partisan the reality is none of this is partisan we all want

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control of our our communities and if you're if you're a Democrat dominated community fine fine

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that's fine you have control and take it away from Sacramento right don't let Sacramento take it

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but if you're Republican whatever that it's nonpartisan right wanting control of your local community

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wanting safety wanting safe streets all of that is nonpartisan so that's really an important point

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so when folks look at me and say well he's a Republican no no no no I'm talking about the issues

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that matter to all of us including issues that are near and dear to hearts near and dear to

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the heart of Democrats and independence alike because we want lower taxes we want lower crime we

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want safe elections we want our communities to be safe right on and so I think that's a really

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really important point well you guys were super super excited here in California and I know that

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many of you are watching perhaps outside of California that doesn't keep you from helping in fact

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how many according to the data millions of people have left California so maybe you ought to

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think about throwing something back this way to help Michael Gates become the attorney general

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of California in this 2026 election cycle thanks could turn around this is going to be probably

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the most important election in the state of California in decades if not longer but but please

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do everything you can by all means pray everybody but pray and then act and you can act by going

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to gates for ag.com gates for the number four ag.com and give them something will you and that's how

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this works and grassroots is even the best a broad base of support is a powerful statement

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and so we are encouraged by your action your wife you guys taken on this incredible task

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and so you have our prayers and I'm delighted to be with you and if I could I just want to thank

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God for this opportunity I want to thank God for really giving you to me in my life because

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we didn't know each other we've known each other for fears before that we didn't know each other

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and when I came to you when I said hey Pastor Jack I I could use your help I want to be able to

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reach more people and this goes back years this is when I was city attorney you said yes and I

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want to thank you for that because not a lot of people in a position like yours who would have

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access to amazing congregations an amazing an amazing audience would say yes and you did so thank

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God that you did thank God that you have and thank God that you allowed me to come here today so

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thank you very much and I'm saying yes again thanks brother I appreciate it very much awesome thank you thank you

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