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Real life presents the Jack Hibbs podcast with intention and boldness to proclaim

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truth, equip the saints and impact our culture. Hey everybody, how about this?

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We are going to be hearing from lunatics in their own words. I'm going to be

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reading people who are very globally famous, who parade themselves as ministers

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of the gospel, but really their ministers for and unto themselves. Who am I

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talking about? Why? Well, the Bible requires us to address these things. So let's

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get at it. Hang on to your seats.

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You can get the outlines of this podcast by going to jackhibbs.com slash podcast.

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Today, if this podcast lifts you up and encourages you to live a more fulfilled

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life in Christ, then make sure you leave us one of those five star ratings. To us,

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that's like saying amen or yes, then that rating will encourage others to listen.

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Now open your hearts to what God's word has to say to you. Here is Jack Hibbs.

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Hey, welcome to the Jack Hibbs podcast. And we are delighted to have you with us. And

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we were just all laughing behind the camera here a moment ago. And someday,

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someday we're going to do this maybe sooner than not. And that is we were talking about

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comments that people make. And before we get into our show for today. So last night, for example,

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last night I was teaching on a Wednesday night service. And of course, it's broadcast and it's

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streamed and all that kind of stuff. And I don't know where you guys live, but here in California,

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we have a shoe store called sketchers. And they're great. The super comfortable shoes, good looking

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shoes, really cheap. In fact, they just had a Memorial Day sale. And I got two pairs of shoes

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for $111 for two pairs of shoes. Now that sounds like a lot of money, but in California,

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that's cheap. But no, rumor has it that I've got $500 or $800 shoes. No, these are little over

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50 bucks sketches. So I'm not that guy. Oh, but you have a $500 watch, don't you?

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See this watch? This is the watch that people are referring to. See this?

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It looks like a Navy SEAL watch. This is a Casio. And I got two of these recently online,

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two of them for how much? There are 50 bucks each or 50 bucks. I think $50 each. Maybe less than

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that. Casio. So I'm not that guy. Oh, one woman said, I know what's going on with him. He's had

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Botox. Nope. Sorry. No Botox. This is I am naturally ugly. Okay. You can't fix this.

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He's always red. His face is always red. I am always red. I'm always red. I'm in fact,

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I don't even need to go into the sun. But when I go into the sun, I turn like chocolate brown.

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It's crazy. It's just me. Sorry. I'm not. Why would I be red? He's taking drugs. No drugs.

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I'm drug free. None of that stuff started to disappoint the gossip mail out there. But someday,

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we're going to do something to do a podcast of the things that I have found out about myself.

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I didn't even I didn't know that during COVID that I flew to Israel to get the vaccine

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and flew back. Did you know that? I didn't even know that. Wow. Stupid, stupid, crazy things.

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And I just wanted to start off a program like that. So no, it's me. This is not AI. If it was AI,

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I would look really great. The color would be right. Okay. Yeah. My voice would be different if

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I was doing AI. So all that levity up front is good to prepare us for what the scripture says.

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And listen, I'm going to be reading out a second Timothy chapter three. And I want you to know

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something everybody. This is Paul writing to Timothy, not only about Timothy and his day

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of ministry, but the future. And you and I are right now in that future that Paul wrote about

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and very, very few people are willing to accept what the Bible has to say about the dangers of the

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future. When I say the dangers of the future, I'm specifically meaning doctrine, false teachers,

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false prophets, charlatans. Let me ask you this. Those of you who are savvy in Bible knowledge,

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are there such things as idle shepherds that were warned about in the Bible? Yes. Ask yourself,

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who could they be in your time in your neighborhood, in your world? Does the Bible warn anywhere

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about those who are false prophets that would lead people astray? Yep, it does. Could that possibly

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be happening in in your neighborhood, in your life? It is. Could somebody that you know

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depart from the faith? It's so funny, isn't it? We think not, not no way, not going to happen to me.

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I know all my friends and they're all just tight with Jesus. Listen, frankly, honestly,

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we won't know for sure about others until we cross the finish line until it's over. So,

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to say, we may have great Kundinaya with those who later on in five years, 10 years, 15 years,

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25 years from now, some people even in our time frame are now suddenly departing from the faith

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after 30, 40, 50 years of following Jesus. They're giving up. Why are we surprised? Jesus warned us.

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He said in Matthew 13, these are they who believe for a while. They're not saved. They were never

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born again. They were never experienced the regeneration of the Holy Spirit. They only believed,

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they never had faith. That's why Jesus said, these are they who believe for a while. They never

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lost their salvation. They never had it. But we assume because we know them that they have it.

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Do you hear what I'm saying? Nobody wants to hear what I'm saying. It gets too nervous. It's like,

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what? Don't say that because because what? Because it could be found out that somebody that we recognize

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departs from the faith. It's because they hovered around the faith. There are those of Hebrews

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chapter 6, verses 4, 5, and 6. They tasted. They didn't eat. They sipped. They didn't drink.

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They fellowshiped among us, but they were not of us. They looked like us. They sang even better

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than we did. Do. But they were not of us. They even did incredible. But we thought was ministry.

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But then Jesus warns us and tells us that there'll be those who will be able to even raise the dead.

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And the last days, and yet Jesus and the day of judgment will say, I never knew you. Depart from

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me, uh, into everlasting fire. Say, Jack, are you crazy? I'm not crazy. I'm telling you right now.

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Matthew chapter 7, read it for yourself. So I'm telling you all these things so that you might be

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where and be unguarded and never at a time like this. Be so gracious towards those who are

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aberrant, sane things that are not biblically accurate, sane things that are blatantly accurate,

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or inaccurate, I should say, and say, well, you know, I just, I just love their program.

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Or I read his book. He's great. You don't know. You don't know. I don't know. So with all of that,

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priming the pump, here it is. 2 Timothy 3 verse 1. But know this, see Paul is telling us,

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you better wrap your mind around this, everybody, that in the last days, perilous times will come.

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The times will come that will wear us down. For men will be lovers of themselves. Think of that for

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a moment. Lovers of themselves. Lovers of money. Always asking, always pleading,

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asking you to exercise faith in your life to send them money.

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Boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving,

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slanders, without self-control, brutal, wow, despisers of good, traders, headstrong,

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hotty, lovers of pleasure, rather than lovers of God, having a form of godliness,

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a form of friends, the last thing on this planet is for you and I to have a form of godliness,

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and not having godliness be real in our lives.

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Having a form of godliness, denying its power, and from such people, turn away from them, turn away.

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So we need to do this. The scripture tells us that we are to expose those who are a danger to

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the flock of God, those who like Hymenias and Alexander hauled expose them by name because

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of the trouble that they were causing ministry, they were dividing, they were separating,

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they were wounding the sheep. The Bible tells us, for example, in Hebrews chapter 13, that we need

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to be a people who remember those, verse 7, who have spoken the Word of God to us,

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considering the outcome of their conduct. In other words, there are those who have spoken the

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Word of God to us and we need to be blessed and honor them because they've given us the Word of

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God, not themselves, not seven steps to how to get rich, not 10 principles on how to have a nice day.

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None of that junk, they taught you the Word of God and their faith you can follow. In other words,

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their faith is in Jesus, not in the Almighty Dollar, their faith is in Jesus, not in their talent or

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skills, their faith is in Jesus, not in their Gulfstream jets, their faith is in Jesus, not in

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rhetoric of prosperity, wealth, health, deception. And so you need to know what's out there right now.

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And so I'm going to ask you to not, I repeat, do not believe what you are about to hear.

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Research this on your own. I will cite the source as much as possible. But I don't think some of

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these names will come as a shock to you. And by the way, everything I'm saying is in the public

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domain. In other words, I can't be sued for what I'm about to say because they put out there

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what I am quoting. Does that make sense, everybody? So I want you to know that. That's how serious I

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am about this. Quote, your words have created creative power. When you speak something out, you give

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life to what you are saying. If you want to know what you're going to be like in five years from

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now, listen to what you're saying about yourself today. Negative words will bring defeat,

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but positive words will bring victory. That's Joel Olstein from his book The Power of I Am.

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Two words that will change your life today, published in 2015. Joel Olstein, don't speak negative

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words. What are what are negative words? Repent of your sins? That's negative. Right?

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But that's how you experience eternal life and forgiveness of sins. The words that you speak

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have creative power. That's dangerous. The words that you speak granted. If I, if I chew argue

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criticize my wife or those around me, I defeat their spirit. I destroy, I destroy their heart. I wound

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them. If that's what he means, I understand that. But for me to say, I am wealthy, I am healthy,

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I am, I am nice. It doesn't create any of that. Anyway, you might say I'm being picky. Here's

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another one. Quote, be careful what you say about yourself. You can't curse your future with

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negative words and expect to live in victory. Sounds very similar, huh? If you keep saying,

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I'm not good enough, I'll never get ahead. You're limiting what God can do. Start declaring,

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I am strong, I am talented, I am blessed and watch God open the doors. This is the book The Power of

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Favor. I'm sorry, this is a sermon titled The Power of Favor in 2019 by Joel Olstein.

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He said, I believe that Mormons are Christians. I don't know if it's the purest form of Christianity,

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like I grew up with, you know, they believe Jesus is the Son of God that He's the Savior. Washington

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Times 2011. Mormonism teaches that there are many Messiah's and many Christ. Mormonism teaches

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that if you are a Mormon who meets all of the requirements and the standards and you've kept

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the doctrine of covenants, the pearl of great price, you, you, you, the book of Mormon and the

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Bible because it adds the Bible into their doctrine. If you're good enough, if you're good enough,

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you will be able to receive a planet with 199 wives, including your terrestrial wife here and now,

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she becomes your celestial wife and you get 199 other women as well over your own planet. In fact,

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that's exactly what happened to Adam and Eve. Did you know that? I didn't know that. The Bible

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didn't say that. Bible left it out. No, that was added by Mormon doctrine. And Joel Olstein says

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that Mormon are Christians. They're not just our flavor. When he said that they, that they believe

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that Jesus is the Son of God and He's the Savior, that's true. It's true. But you have to remember

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that they believe they are all sons of God also and that they can all become saviors of worlds

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that are out there needing to be saved. Did you know that Mormonism teaches that a baby? That's

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why you never hear Mormons talk about the pro-life issue. Did you know that Mormons believe that a

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baby is in the womb and it's just its bio material. It's not a living soul until it comes out of the

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mother and breathes its first breath outside of the mother. And in that instantaneous moment,

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did you know that Mormonism teaches that the sea of souls and Mormonism, there's a celestial place

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that is known as the sea of souls and their souls waiting in this water type of ocean substance.

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And a moment an earthly baby is born and takes a gasp, the soul leaves the sea and enters that child.

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You see, Jack, that's insane. Nobody ever told me that. It's just one part of Mormonism. But

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Joel Olstein says it's Christian. That's false doctrine and it's misleading.

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What about these from Benny Hen? Benny Hen said, you are a little God on earth running around. You say,

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are you saying I'm God? No, I'm saying you're a little God because God said so. When God made man

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in his image, he gave you dominion and you became a little God on this earth. That is Mormonism

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taught by Benny Hen. This is the praise the Lord program on Trinity Broadcasting Network December

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1st 1990. Benny Hen again said, the Bible says God is a triumphant father, son, and holy ghost.

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Period. If he would have stopped right there, he would have been fine, but he kept going.

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Each one of them is a triumphant being by himself. So basically, there's nine of them.

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Praise the Lord program, TBN, October 3rd 1990. Benny Hen, Adam was a super being when God created

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him. I don't know whether people even know this, but he was the first superman that really

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ever lived. First of all, the Scriptures declare clearly that he had dominion over the fowls of the

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air. True. The fish of the sea. True. Which means he used to fly. I hope that's true. That'd be

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really awesome. I had to get my pilot's license. He didn't even need license. He just flew around

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according to Benny Hen. That would be cool. If that's true, it didn't say. The Bible didn't say he did.

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It didn't say he didn't, but why is Benny Hen saying he used to fly. Adam used to fly around. Well,

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of course, how can you have dominion over the birds and not be able to fly? I'll prove it to you.

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The word dominion in the Hebrew clearly declares that if you have dominion over a subject,

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that you do everything that the subject does. In other words, that subject, if it does something

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you cannot do, you do not have dominion over it. I'll prove it further. Adam not only flew,

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he flew to space with one thought. He'd be on the moon. That was from the Praise the Lord program,

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TBN, October 19, 1999. Look, these guys want to talk like this. They can talk like this when

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they're sitting around a coffee table, wondering about weird stuff. But to make it a broadcast that goes

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to millions and millions of people all around the world, they're responsible for this. How about

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Kenneth Copeland? He's like the chief. He's like the chief goofball of them all. He's a disciple,

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by the way, of Kenneth Hagen. There's Kenneth Hagen, really popularized the prosperity,

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health and wealth doctrine of it all. And so Charles Caps,

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Kenneth Copeland, those guys came out of Kenneth Hagen. And so Kenneth Copeland, who I think,

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I think if you look him up right now, he's personally worth $900 million.

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That's okay. It's okay if you're worth $900 million if your Tom Crew is making movies.

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But if you're worth $900 million because grandma's been sending you her welfare check,

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I don't know. You should be arrested. So Ken Copeland said, so you see that faith didn't come

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blowing out of some giant monster somewhere. It came out of the heart of a being that is very

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uncanny the way he's very much like you and me. A being that stands somewhere around six foot

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two to six foot three, that weighs somewhere in the neighborhood of a couple hundred pounds.

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Little better has a span of eight, has a span of eight. And I mean nine inches across. So from

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fingertip to thumb stood up and said, light be, let it be. And this universe situated itself and

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went into motion. Kenneth Copeland ministry letter July 21, 1977. Kenneth Copeland said, I was

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shocked when I found out the biggest failure in the Bible actually is the biggest one himself.

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He's God. I mean, he lost his top ranking most anointed angel. The first man he ever created,

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he lost the first woman he ever created, the whole earth, all the fullness therein, a third of

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the angels, at least that's a big loss, man. Now the reason you don't think of God as a failure is

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he never said he was a failure. And you're not a failure till you say you're one.

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TBN, praise the thorn April 1988. Again, well now you don't have a human do you? Well now you don't

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have a human do you? No, you are one. You don't have a God in you. You are one. Kenneth Copeland

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force of love. Tape BCC number 56. This stuff matters people. This stuff matters. You know what?

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I just realized we're out of time. Thanks for tuning in. Bye bye. No, you want me to, you want me

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to keep going? I can we can carry this over to part two. If if if yeah, we'll do that. Listen,

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here's the thing. Who's going to do this? If I don't do this, who's going to do this? You need

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to know, are you sending these people money? You should listen. Stop. This is save your money.

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Give it to your grandkids or whatever. Give it to the local dog rescue society. Anything but these

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guys, false doctrine, false prophets teaching absolute lunacy and they're going to be judged by God.

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The book of James says those who teach the word of God are going to be judged stricter, harder

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judgment. That's terrifying. If you think about that. So listen everybody, we're going to pick this up.

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We'll make this a part two and and so we'll get back at it and you know as as unpopular and yet

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as popular as this topic is, you got to tell people about this. You got to warn them. Do you know

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anybody in your life that is saying as snotch running down their throat, they got 105 fever and

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their throat's all scratchy and they're shivering with a blanket around them and they're saying,

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I'm not sick. I'm not sick. I'm not sick. And you're like, no, you sick. Don't don't project that

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onto me. You're sick. Go to the doctor. Oh, no, that's not faith. Wow. That's insanity.

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Can you imagine that? What about this? What about your broke? You just overspend or you,

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you're trying to live in California where it's impossible to live financially and you're broke.

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Don't say that. I'm not broke. I'm not broke. In fact, I'm going to quit my job. God's going to

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provide for me. I'm going to step out in faith. I'm going to quit my job. God will provide. Dude,

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you are going to go bankrupt. The Bible says if the Bible says, if you do not work with your own

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hands, you are not allowed to eat. Did you know that? God does not bless being a bum.

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But listen, sometimes listen, God blesses you and you don't have anything. There's a lot of

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people in life who, for whatever reason, maybe for no reason of their own, they don't have anything.

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They live in a world. They live in a culture. There's people listening. I got to end. I got to

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end. I got to carry this over to the side. But I know precious families who love God and it seems

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like everything. They're children, not one, not two, not three, but their children have been born

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with severe handicaps. They've got to work so hard just to pay for Dr. Bill's and stuff and they love

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God. And they give glory to God. Can I do that? Can you do that? We need to be so biblically

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based friends that we're not rocked and moved by these things. God bless you guys. We'll see you

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on the next side with part two. And so I hope you get a lot out of this as painful as it is, truly.

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