WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:05.840 Real Life presents the Jack Hibbs Podcast with intention and boldness to proclaim 2 00:00:05.840 --> 00:00:09.200 truth, equip the saints, and impact our culture. 3 00:00:09.200 --> 00:00:16.440 Hey everybody, hot button topic, immigration. Where is the Christian on immigration? 4 00:00:16.440 --> 00:00:20.800 Are we loving people or are we not? Let's find out. 5 00:00:20.800 --> 00:00:30.240 You can get the outlines of this podcast by going to jackhibbs.com slash podcast. 6 00:00:30.240 --> 00:00:36.160 Today, if this podcast lifts you up and encourages you to live a more fulfilled life in Christ, 7 00:00:36.160 --> 00:00:39.440 then make sure you leave us one of those five star ratings. 8 00:00:39.440 --> 00:00:45.360 To us, that's like saying amen or yes, then that rating will encourage others to listen. 9 00:00:46.160 --> 00:00:50.880 Now open your hearts to what God's word has to say to you. Here is Jack Hibbs. 10 00:00:52.400 --> 00:00:59.920 Hey everybody, welcome to the Jack Hibbs Podcast and I'm Jack and this is the podcast. 11 00:01:00.800 --> 00:01:08.480 And so we are happy to be with you. We want to bring you topics from the Word of God that 12 00:01:08.480 --> 00:01:13.200 are answering everyday life and this is very important to me. I have to tell you it's more 13 00:01:13.200 --> 00:01:21.120 than important to me. It is so fundamental to my faith in relationship to God. 14 00:01:21.840 --> 00:01:31.440 I have an unwavering belief that there is nothing that can happen in life that God has not 15 00:01:31.440 --> 00:01:36.880 addressed in the scriptures. That sounds like a huge statement, but if you take the time 16 00:01:37.280 --> 00:01:47.520 to read, for example, the Gospels, Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, and then you read, for example, 17 00:01:47.520 --> 00:01:54.720 what Matthew has to say, when Matthew says, and this was done, which was spoken of by the prophet, 18 00:01:54.720 --> 00:02:02.400 Zechariah, and he quotes, for example, chapter 9 verse 9 of Zechariah. 19 00:02:02.880 --> 00:02:11.600 When you turn back to Zechariah 9 and you read it, you're blown away because you're thinking, 20 00:02:12.240 --> 00:02:26.880 what? The Holy Spirit in Matthew gave commentary and fulfillment between Zechariah and Matthew 21 00:02:26.960 --> 00:02:32.960 and it comes together perfectly. If left on your own, you would never figure that out in most cases. 22 00:02:32.960 --> 00:02:38.960 Some of them are overt where it says that the Messiah is going to be born in Bethlehem and he's 23 00:02:38.960 --> 00:02:46.560 eternal. That's Micah 5 verse 2 and then you read the advent of Jesus recorded in the Gospels 24 00:02:46.560 --> 00:02:52.480 and it's obviously crystal clear. Listen, for example, the Bible says, out of Egypt, I have called my 25 00:02:52.480 --> 00:02:58.640 son, go look at the Old Testament reference and you would never figure that out if it wasn't for 26 00:02:58.640 --> 00:03:05.920 the illumination of the Holy Spirit. What's my point? My point is even when things seem obscure, 27 00:03:06.480 --> 00:03:14.320 they're not. In fact, some of the most seemingly obscure verses or statements in scripture are 28 00:03:14.320 --> 00:03:21.200 the most profound. Beckoning as it were to us to be students of the Bible, I believe God is 29 00:03:21.200 --> 00:03:26.720 always testing us and inviting us to be students of the Word and not of emotions. You need to 30 00:03:26.720 --> 00:03:31.600 remember that where I'm going because today some of you are going to find out that you do not have 31 00:03:31.600 --> 00:03:42.320 a Biblically based theology. You have an emotionally based theology, which is wrong. You have an 32 00:03:42.320 --> 00:03:49.280 emotionally based theology, which is wrong. You have a warm fuzzy view of theology, which is wrong. 33 00:03:49.280 --> 00:03:55.760 All of it is wrong because there is none of those things that exist to God except pure truth. 34 00:03:55.760 --> 00:04:04.160 And his Word is truth. And yet God has revealed his Word to us in the Bible that we might identify truth. 35 00:04:05.200 --> 00:04:11.760 And so saying that you will make the decision after this podcast, during this podcast, to be a 36 00:04:11.760 --> 00:04:18.800 disciple of the truth or to be a disciple of yourself, to be a disciple of the age. How's that? 37 00:04:18.800 --> 00:04:26.640 To be a disciple of the genre. In other words, I'm going to be a disciple of what's trending. 38 00:04:26.640 --> 00:04:34.080 What's happening now? What's the word on the street? That's what I'm going to decide to do. 39 00:04:34.160 --> 00:04:42.320 The Bible talks about people like you that you're like a read in the wind. A read will break 40 00:04:42.320 --> 00:04:47.600 in the wind. It can't even handle a wind. The Bible says people like that, people like you if 41 00:04:47.600 --> 00:04:52.400 that's if you're emotionally based theology, that sounds kind of like this. Well, I know the Bible 42 00:04:52.400 --> 00:05:00.320 says this, but I believe that person's off. Well, I know the Bible says this, but you know, 43 00:05:00.320 --> 00:05:09.040 I pray about it. And I really feel like that person's off. Are you with me? How about this? 44 00:05:09.040 --> 00:05:14.080 I'll do the reverse, which kind of describes my life and maybe other believers as well. 45 00:05:14.080 --> 00:05:25.200 Hey, I feel like doing this. But the Bible says I should do that. I have got to do that, not this. 46 00:05:25.200 --> 00:05:30.240 I have to do that because that's what the Bible says. Do you know what that's called? That's called 47 00:05:30.240 --> 00:05:35.760 the Christian? And do you know what Christians are? They're disciples. And do you know what a disciple 48 00:05:35.760 --> 00:05:41.440 is? It's a follower of Jesus. And do you know what it means to follow Jesus? It means to love him. 49 00:05:41.440 --> 00:05:46.560 And did you know what it means to love him? It means to obey him. Jesus said, what do you call me? 50 00:05:46.560 --> 00:05:52.320 Matthew chapter 7, verse 2021 and 22. He said, what do you call me? Lord, Lord, and you do not do 51 00:05:52.400 --> 00:05:57.920 the things I say. He said, in fact, in the day of judgment, many people will say, Lord, Lord, 52 00:05:57.920 --> 00:06:03.120 didn't we cast out demons in your name? Didn't we do all these miracles and preach in your name? 53 00:06:03.120 --> 00:06:08.640 Didn't we do all that stuff? And Jesus says, Jesus says, I will say to them, I don't even know who 54 00:06:08.640 --> 00:06:18.720 you guys are. They part from me. Get out of here into everlasting punishment. Wow. Wow. If you love 55 00:06:18.800 --> 00:06:25.680 them, you will obey him. So here we go. This has been something that we've needed to talk about 56 00:06:25.680 --> 00:06:30.800 for a long time, but time is limited. But we'll touch on it today. I wish it could be exhaustive. 57 00:06:30.800 --> 00:06:38.560 But it's this issue of what happened and what is happening and what's going to happen regarding 58 00:06:38.560 --> 00:06:47.840 borders, borders. There's a lot of woke Christians or is that even a possibility? Can you be a 59 00:06:47.840 --> 00:06:55.600 woke Christian? I wonder what Jesus thinks about that. I don't have to guess. I think he's already 60 00:06:55.600 --> 00:07:00.240 written about it to us. But let's say there are those who say their Christians, but they want to 61 00:07:00.240 --> 00:07:04.400 massage the Bible for the moment. They want to massage the Bible for what's trending. They want 62 00:07:04.400 --> 00:07:09.440 to, they want to massage the Bible, bend it and twist it. So it makes their emotions feel better. 63 00:07:10.640 --> 00:07:16.960 And Gertia, as we'll talk about in a moment, they're going to look silly because emotions 64 00:07:16.960 --> 00:07:21.840 always make you look silly. If you doubt what I'm saying, just take your kid to Toys Are Us and 65 00:07:21.840 --> 00:07:30.400 go down the toy aisle and tell them no. When they want that toy truck or that doll or that thing, 66 00:07:30.400 --> 00:07:35.680 tell them no. And they freak, right? What are they having? A tantrum. And there's a lot of 67 00:07:35.680 --> 00:07:42.640 so-called Christians today that you can identify them by their tantrums. And this is one of them, 68 00:07:42.720 --> 00:07:47.200 borders, the border debate. So number one, let's be honest. 69 00:07:50.400 --> 00:07:57.920 No, let's not be honest yet. Let's be 100% biblical first. And then I'll talk to you about what I 70 00:07:57.920 --> 00:08:05.840 want to be honest about. And that is things that we have lived out and are living in. So let's do 71 00:08:05.840 --> 00:08:11.440 this. John chapter 10, John chapter 10, verse 10, the Bible says, most Jesus is speaking. Most 72 00:08:11.440 --> 00:08:20.000 surely I say to you, he who does not enter the sheepfold by the door but climbs up some other way, 73 00:08:20.000 --> 00:08:27.680 the same as a thief and a robber. But he who enters by the door is the shepherd of the sheep. 74 00:08:27.680 --> 00:08:34.320 To him, the doorkeeper opens in the sheep, here is voice. And he calls his own sheep by name and 75 00:08:34.400 --> 00:08:42.000 he leads them out. The point is this, a sheepfold. The context of Jesus's words is a sheepfold. 76 00:08:42.000 --> 00:08:46.800 If you don't know what a sheepfold is in first century when Christ lived, it wasn't, it wasn't, 77 00:08:46.800 --> 00:08:51.520 wasn't made out of wood. It was a, it was an area made of rocks. Many of them are still existing 78 00:08:51.520 --> 00:09:00.880 today in Israel. And they're a rock-fenced area. And the width of the door was only large enough 79 00:09:00.880 --> 00:09:08.320 for the shepherd to lay down and sleep in. There was no door like on hinges. The shepherd 80 00:09:08.320 --> 00:09:13.600 slept in the door. So nobody could come over him or no one could leave and try to escape. 81 00:09:15.600 --> 00:09:20.880 He would, he would be the immediately awakened. Jesus says, there's borders where sheep can 82 00:09:20.880 --> 00:09:26.000 live and be safe. Why am I saying this? The concept of borders. I'm not saying that this verse 83 00:09:26.560 --> 00:09:32.880 is should be on Homeland Security website. I'm not saying that. I'm saying that you can 84 00:09:32.880 --> 00:09:38.640 protect sheep by keeping them in their borders in the sheepfold at night because if you don't, 85 00:09:38.640 --> 00:09:43.280 they'll wander around and scatter. What else will happen, everybody? What else happens? If they 86 00:09:43.280 --> 00:09:48.240 don't scatter, bad things come in and attack them. I think you know that everybody, you can be 87 00:09:48.240 --> 00:09:55.680 half dumb and still figure that one out. That's not tough. Acts chapter 17. Acts chapter 17. Let's 88 00:09:55.680 --> 00:10:06.800 take a peek at this. Acts chapter 17 and verse, whoops, verse 24. Paul is in Athens, Greece. He's 89 00:10:06.800 --> 00:10:12.240 waiting for the ministry team to arrive. He got there early and or they were delayed. So he's waiting 90 00:10:12.240 --> 00:10:19.600 for the rest of the missionary team to show up before he starts ministering in that area of 91 00:10:19.600 --> 00:10:26.320 Greece and he's in Athens and they have the avenue of the gods in that region. You go through the 92 00:10:26.320 --> 00:10:31.360 Ogura marketplace and then you ascend up to Mars Hill and as you're going up to Mars Hill, 93 00:10:31.360 --> 00:10:38.720 I've been there. You walk up the avenue of the gods. So think of rodeo drive if you're in Southern 94 00:10:38.720 --> 00:10:47.600 California or think of some, think of Main Street USA. Okay. So in Chino Hills, 95 00:10:49.200 --> 00:10:55.360 where I met, the Main Street is lined with American flags. It has been ever since September 11, 96 00:10:55.360 --> 00:11:01.920 2001, which I thought was, thinks awesome. American flags lining Main Street. There's this main 97 00:11:01.920 --> 00:11:08.640 street, right? There's the main drag. Paul's going up that street and he sees all of these gods, 98 00:11:08.640 --> 00:11:14.240 the avenue of the gods and he starts and he's looking at all of them. Zeus, Athena, Diana, 99 00:11:14.240 --> 00:11:23.040 Bacchus, Pan, Titan, all of them are there and then there's one podium with no god on it. It's empty 100 00:11:23.040 --> 00:11:28.160 and it says there to the unknown god and the Greeks were so superstitious that they believed. We 101 00:11:28.160 --> 00:11:35.200 better put something here because if we leave out a god, we could offend him and he could destroy us. 102 00:11:35.200 --> 00:11:42.960 That's why they put that up. So Paul says in verse 23, excuse me, for as I was passing through 103 00:11:42.960 --> 00:11:48.640 and considering the objects of your worship, I even found an altar with this inscription to the 104 00:11:48.640 --> 00:11:57.840 unknown god. Therefore, the one whom you worship without knowing him, I proclaim to you, well, who is he? 105 00:11:57.840 --> 00:12:03.760 What kind of god is he like? All the other gods had names, all the other gods had certain attributes, 106 00:12:03.760 --> 00:12:08.400 all of those other gods, by the way, had certain wheelhouses. If you wanted to get drunk and have 107 00:12:08.400 --> 00:12:16.480 an orgy, then you want to go worship over there with Bacchus. If you want to just go nuts and crazy 108 00:12:17.680 --> 00:12:26.880 and be wild and run around in a frenzy, you would do the worship that was known as panic. 109 00:12:28.160 --> 00:12:35.760 And panic was the worship of the deity Pan, P-A-N. So Paul was looking at all of this stuff and 110 00:12:35.760 --> 00:12:42.960 now he's going to describe the god that he's using this empty podium as an evangelistic tool to speak 111 00:12:42.960 --> 00:12:51.360 to them. The god, the god who made the world and everything in it, since he is Lord of heaven and 112 00:12:51.360 --> 00:12:59.280 earth, does not dwell in temples made with hands, nor is he worshiped with men's hands as though 113 00:12:59.280 --> 00:13:10.160 he needed anything, since he gives to all breath and all things. And he has made from one blood, 114 00:13:10.160 --> 00:13:17.760 by the way, that's a scientific fact. We know in hematology that mankind has come from one 115 00:13:17.760 --> 00:13:28.960 blood, one actual DNA source. From one blood, every nation of man, that's right, we're one race. 116 00:13:28.960 --> 00:13:35.120 Are you black? Are you white? Are you yellow? Are you red? We're all one, one race. There's not 117 00:13:35.120 --> 00:13:43.440 black race, white race, red race. No, there's only one race. To dwell on all the face of the earth, 118 00:13:43.440 --> 00:13:53.360 and he has, listen, he has predetermined their appointed times and the boundaries of their 119 00:13:53.360 --> 00:14:01.280 dwellings or nations so that they should seek the Lord in hope that they might, in the hope 120 00:14:01.280 --> 00:14:10.080 that they might grow up for him and find him through, or excuse me, though, he is not far from each 121 00:14:10.160 --> 00:14:18.880 of them. Notice the Bible says that God has established nations or boundaries or peoples or 122 00:14:18.880 --> 00:14:31.920 borders. Book of Acts chapter 17 verses 23 to 27. Daniel chapter 2 verse 44, God says that he 123 00:14:31.920 --> 00:14:40.880 establishes his everlasting kingdom that will preside and prevail over all other kingdoms of the 124 00:14:40.880 --> 00:14:51.440 world. Kingdoms is another term for borders or realms. For example, we could very accurately say 125 00:14:51.440 --> 00:14:59.200 that there's the kingdom of America. There is the kingdom of Russia, the kingdom of Germany. We 126 00:14:59.280 --> 00:15:08.320 could say the kingdom of China, okay? Interchangeable. Same difference. Let's press onto this. Romans 127 00:15:08.320 --> 00:15:15.440 chapter 13 and you could go ahead and read like the first seven verses later. But Romans 13 tells us 128 00:15:15.440 --> 00:15:23.600 that God has established the laws and the leaders of any given land and they are to be for good. 129 00:15:24.240 --> 00:15:29.920 You see, well, Jack there's bad laws. Yes, there are bad laws. Isaiah chapter 10 verse 1 says, 130 00:15:29.920 --> 00:15:36.240 man writes very bad laws and those laws are to be overthrown. Just because it's a law, 131 00:15:36.240 --> 00:15:42.560 you know what? For example, it is a law in California to smoke. You can smoke dope. You can 132 00:15:42.560 --> 00:15:50.080 smoke pot, okay? So I've never smoked pot in my life, but it's the law. Gosh, I guess I have to 133 00:15:50.080 --> 00:15:58.000 start your laughing right now because it's so stupid. They're stupid laws and we're not to obey 134 00:15:58.000 --> 00:16:06.640 stupid laws. Romans 13 says, I'm paraphrasing now, obviously, don't obey stupid laws. It says that 135 00:16:06.640 --> 00:16:15.840 the leaders, political leaders, the law enforcement leaders, right? They're to be obeyed as long as 136 00:16:15.840 --> 00:16:21.280 they're doing good. When they cease to do good, then they have violated the call of God and the 137 00:16:21.280 --> 00:16:28.880 office of God and they're to be voted out or to be taken out of office. Romans 13, very, very important. 138 00:16:30.720 --> 00:16:39.520 And so listen to this, Deuteronomy 32, Deuteronomy chapter 32. And then we're going to get down to some 139 00:16:40.640 --> 00:16:44.960 things that all of this pertains to. See, I believe that the Bible speaks to everything. 140 00:16:45.920 --> 00:16:54.000 At all times, always has. Acts 32 verse 7, remember the days of old. Consider the years of 141 00:16:54.000 --> 00:17:02.160 many generations. Ask your father and he will show you your elders. They will tell you 142 00:17:02.880 --> 00:17:11.200 when the most high divided their inheritance, that's mankind people, to the nations. When he 143 00:17:11.280 --> 00:17:17.760 separated the sons of Adam, he separated the sons of Adam. Are you hearing me? 144 00:17:18.640 --> 00:17:28.000 God established nations and he separated Adam's children. He separated them to make nations. 145 00:17:29.680 --> 00:17:36.160 He set the boundaries of the nations according to the number of the children of Israel. 146 00:17:36.240 --> 00:17:42.160 For the Lord's portion is his people. Jacob is the place of his inheritance. 147 00:17:42.160 --> 00:17:47.760 Borders. God has established borders. So there's a lot of, listen, there's a lot of 148 00:17:47.760 --> 00:17:54.080 wokesters out there and emotionally charged individuals. Believers are not. They're emotionally charged 149 00:17:54.080 --> 00:18:01.120 and they're emotions. I've gotten ahead of their reason quite frankly. And so here's what the 150 00:18:01.120 --> 00:18:10.240 wokester and the, in my opinion, I have to be kind but I have to be accurate and I have to 151 00:18:10.240 --> 00:18:15.600 speak the truth and love. There are those who masquerade as being religious and even educated 152 00:18:15.600 --> 00:18:22.720 and yet they are anti-borders. This is a foolish individual because immediately you know 153 00:18:23.280 --> 00:18:29.840 that their emotions trump their theology. And because their emotions are number one, 154 00:18:29.840 --> 00:18:37.120 their theology is on some somewhere down the list. And by the way, their theology will always 155 00:18:37.120 --> 00:18:43.760 blow in the wind until it breaks and it will always break. It will always break because they're 156 00:18:43.760 --> 00:18:50.960 not on the foundation. Their, their theology is formed when they hear the news. They try to 157 00:18:51.360 --> 00:18:59.360 Christianize it so that they can feel better but it never works. And then eventually if they stay 158 00:18:59.360 --> 00:19:04.000 at it, they walk around like the king that has no clothes. Remember that old story about the king, 159 00:19:04.000 --> 00:19:09.360 the king that walked walked around naked because somebody lied to him and said, you know, look 160 00:19:09.360 --> 00:19:14.240 it, you're wearing a robe that's so beautiful. Only brilliant people can see it. Only brilliant 161 00:19:14.320 --> 00:19:21.360 people can see it. And the king goes, oh, oh, oh, I see it. Wow. Yeah. So, okay. And the king 162 00:19:21.360 --> 00:19:27.280 goes walking out into the, and among his subjects and everybody's going, oh, what a beautiful outfit, 163 00:19:27.280 --> 00:19:31.840 oh, what a beauty of the king's naked. What a beautiful outfit. And then some kid goes, hey, 164 00:19:31.840 --> 00:19:38.240 can someone tell me why the king's naked? People do that with theology because their emotions are 165 00:19:38.240 --> 00:19:49.840 greater than their theology. And so listen, let's talk practical. I have noticed that only a certain 166 00:19:49.840 --> 00:19:59.680 political group of people are whining about borders right now. Think about it. Who is whining about 167 00:19:59.680 --> 00:20:07.840 borders? Not only they're only a particular political religious belief system, 168 00:20:10.400 --> 00:20:21.760 but they have a profound deficiency in all other areas of both politics, culture, and theology. 169 00:20:21.760 --> 00:20:27.120 I could go on forever on this. For example, what's their view of Israel? What's their view 170 00:20:27.840 --> 00:20:34.160 of gun, gun laws? What's their view of do they believe? Listen, here's a test. Do they believe 171 00:20:34.160 --> 00:20:40.080 that the Constitution is the founding document or do they believe that the Constitution is a living 172 00:20:40.080 --> 00:20:46.640 document? If they believe the Constitution is a living document, then they're woke. And they have 173 00:20:46.640 --> 00:20:52.960 bizarre, bizarre positions that never work. Only, they're only theoretical because they never work. 174 00:20:52.960 --> 00:20:57.120 And I'm going to prove it to you. Again, we're limited on time, but I'll do the best I can. 175 00:20:57.120 --> 00:21:09.680 For example, are all borders good? Or how about this? Or do all borders exist? Where there's a 176 00:21:09.680 --> 00:21:17.360 border does it exist? That's the question to you. So if you go with me right now, down to LAX 177 00:21:17.440 --> 00:21:26.880 or any airport, I just did this the other day. So I had my U.S. passport and I was surprised yet 178 00:21:26.880 --> 00:21:32.800 again. It's happened to me once before I went to Switzerland not too long ago to Geneva. And that's 179 00:21:32.800 --> 00:21:38.720 why I first saw this and I was in Los Angeles and they didn't want my passport. They just told me 180 00:21:38.720 --> 00:21:43.760 to stand there. They said, just just look into the screen, sir, just look into the screen. And I 181 00:21:43.760 --> 00:21:49.040 looked into the screen and the light turned green and the door opened up and I went and got on my 182 00:21:49.040 --> 00:21:58.400 plane. Facial recognition. Why borders? That's why. When I landed in Geneva, I guess what I had to go 183 00:21:58.400 --> 00:22:05.520 through, customs. I had to go through customs before I could enter into the country of Geneva. I mean, 184 00:22:05.520 --> 00:22:12.880 of Switzerland. Apparently, you don't like that. Guess what? You won't be going to Switzerland. You will 185 00:22:12.880 --> 00:22:18.880 not be going to the Alps and you will not be going to Lake Geneva because you don't believe in borders. 186 00:22:19.680 --> 00:22:24.880 You believe that you can just walk right into Switzerland because you have the right to. No, 187 00:22:24.880 --> 00:22:34.320 you don't. You have no rights at all to do that. None nor do I. Try walking into Saudi Arabia. I'd 188 00:22:34.320 --> 00:22:41.040 love to see you try. You won't make it. You won't even. I was going to say you won't even make 189 00:22:41.040 --> 00:22:53.760 it three feet. You won't even make it three inches. Listen, as woke as the UK is, you cannot get past 190 00:22:53.760 --> 00:23:02.240 customs at Heathrow. I've done it a hundred times. It's not going to happen. Go to Mexico, 191 00:23:02.240 --> 00:23:12.080 they're going to, when you land in San Jose del Cabo, they are going to require identification. 192 00:23:13.200 --> 00:23:19.440 So don't talk to me about Christians. We shouldn't, we shouldn't have borders. Okay, I know what 193 00:23:19.440 --> 00:23:26.400 planet you're on, but it's not God's planet. That's insane. And plus you're lying to yourself. 194 00:23:26.400 --> 00:23:32.800 And I'll prove it to you. If you don't think we should have borders, then how is it that you 195 00:23:32.800 --> 00:23:38.720 lock your door at night when you go to bed? How is it that you pay homeowners insurance 196 00:23:40.400 --> 00:23:46.560 or insurance for your dwelling if you live in an apartment? How is it that you pay insurance 197 00:23:46.560 --> 00:23:51.360 so that nobody breaks in and steals your alarm clock? Because there's borders. 198 00:23:51.760 --> 00:23:57.840 Okay, no, in America, in America, and believe it or not, California, I think is the biggest. 199 00:23:58.560 --> 00:24:03.280 I think it's even more than Texas, last time I heard. There's more gun owners in California 200 00:24:03.280 --> 00:24:08.640 than any other state in America. In America, we get their own guns. Why? Because the Constitution 201 00:24:08.640 --> 00:24:15.840 says we can protect ourselves against invasion. Invasion, did you know that that belief system 202 00:24:15.920 --> 00:24:22.320 means that it's not the invasion of the beach or the invasion of airplanes flying over. That's 203 00:24:22.320 --> 00:24:28.000 called war, the invasion of your property. Did you know that I have, you have homeowners insurance 204 00:24:28.000 --> 00:24:34.800 that starts at the very end of a degree of the public sidewalk in front of your house 205 00:24:34.800 --> 00:24:39.920 and your private property? Did you know that? You know, as somebody slips on a roller skate 206 00:24:40.560 --> 00:24:46.720 or a skateboard on the sidewalk, the city's responsible. Did you know if two inches over, 207 00:24:46.720 --> 00:24:51.120 if that skateboard is on your property, you're responsible. Why? Borders. 208 00:24:52.240 --> 00:24:59.360 So listen, not only do borders work, borders are the law. And you, you, you theorist, 209 00:25:00.240 --> 00:25:07.280 you live off of borders. And God is a God of laws. And God says in the Bible that he establishes 210 00:25:07.280 --> 00:25:14.960 borders. And I think it's important also to keep in mind this very, very important thing. So 211 00:25:17.520 --> 00:25:22.560 the breakdown in U.S. borders pains me to say this because he's one of my heroes. 212 00:25:24.080 --> 00:25:30.320 The breakdown in in in borders in the United States can pretty much be pinpointed to the man 213 00:25:30.320 --> 00:25:36.080 Ronald Reagan. I know it hurts. Ronald Reagan, when he was governor of California, 214 00:25:37.120 --> 00:25:44.640 the crops in California were producing so much fruit and vegetables and nuts that the production 215 00:25:44.640 --> 00:25:52.000 was greater than our ability to harvest it. So Ronald Reagan worked it out with the Mexican government 216 00:25:52.000 --> 00:25:57.520 that Mexicans could come across the border at San Diego and they could have day passes. And then 217 00:25:57.520 --> 00:26:03.840 it was three day passes and then it was week-long passes. And then Reagan was no longer governor. 218 00:26:04.880 --> 00:26:15.520 Reagan moved on. People began staying longer. People began violating that that opportunity. 219 00:26:15.520 --> 00:26:23.520 Some people never went home. But all the while for the last 200 years, people have gone through 220 00:26:23.600 --> 00:26:28.800 immigration process in every country you have to. If you're going to move, if I'm going to move, 221 00:26:29.520 --> 00:26:35.360 for example, if I'm going to move to Israel, I'm not only going to need all the luck in the world, 222 00:26:35.360 --> 00:26:40.560 I'm going to need God to move mountains because the immigration process is so stringent. 223 00:26:41.280 --> 00:26:48.960 Same is true if I want to move to Iran. If I want to move to Iran in Iran or Persia, 224 00:26:49.920 --> 00:26:56.000 it's going to take an act of God. It's so difficult. My point is this, everybody, 225 00:26:56.720 --> 00:27:01.200 that the people that are whining about, aren't we supposed to be loving? Are Christians supposed 226 00:27:01.200 --> 00:27:05.920 to be loving? What are you saying? Of course we're supposed to be loving. What in the world are you 227 00:27:05.920 --> 00:27:12.800 employing? Well, my heart tells me if we're loving as Christians, we should open up the gates and 228 00:27:12.800 --> 00:27:22.880 let people walk in and out and have no borders. Really? Really? Why don't you live like that then? 229 00:27:24.240 --> 00:27:30.160 You don't live like that? Why don't you be loving and open up your door and say, 230 00:27:30.160 --> 00:27:35.680 with a sign out front, I'm a Christian, I'm loving, my door is unlocked, I've got an extra bedroom, 231 00:27:36.480 --> 00:27:41.360 there's hot water here, regarding the food and the refrigerator, make yourself at home. 232 00:27:41.600 --> 00:27:48.480 You would never do that. Of course not. Because it's personal. You have all the luxury to goof around 233 00:27:49.440 --> 00:27:54.320 with your little experiment in your head, theoretically, but it doesn't work in reality. 234 00:27:56.000 --> 00:28:06.800 So again, I just want to go down this argumentation that if we're loving, we're to obey God. 235 00:28:06.880 --> 00:28:14.080 If we're loving, we are to take care of those that are in need. When we're loving, 236 00:28:14.080 --> 00:28:23.120 we are to participate in our government. We are to participate in our churches. What in the world 237 00:28:23.120 --> 00:28:29.520 does that have to do with being illegal, acting illegal, breaking the law to assist those who have 238 00:28:29.520 --> 00:28:36.720 broken the law? You have to come into this country legally, period, just like I have to go 239 00:28:36.720 --> 00:28:44.400 through any other country legally, period. See, this is only a really bizarre dumb American issue. 240 00:28:45.440 --> 00:28:50.160 No other country is going through this. Because why? We have such freedoms that, frankly, 241 00:28:50.160 --> 00:28:55.680 we don't even deserve them. We're so stupid that we don't even know how to govern and 242 00:28:55.760 --> 00:29:03.440 stew in our leader. I mean, our freedoms. We were led by emotions. I'm going to go fast on this. 243 00:29:03.440 --> 00:29:08.720 It's 28 minutes into this. I got to speed this up. So the pope just got done schooling Donald 244 00:29:08.720 --> 00:29:18.240 Trump and a Tom Homan on border security. The pope, the pope. When's the last time you said 245 00:29:18.240 --> 00:29:25.600 high to the pope? When's the last time you gave the pope a hug? In fact, go hug the pope. 246 00:29:26.320 --> 00:29:33.120 Let's start a go hug the pope day. The pope is schooling Trump on the borders that is mean 247 00:29:33.120 --> 00:29:40.720 nasty and ugly. Then why doesn't the pope open up the gates to the Vatican city and let all these 248 00:29:40.720 --> 00:29:49.840 illegals in? In fact, come on, pope, open up the Vatican and let all the legal aliens in. Let 249 00:29:49.840 --> 00:29:57.200 them all in. You know why he won't do that? Because there's going to be one, two, or three murders 250 00:29:57.200 --> 00:30:04.400 in the group. And the way you keep murders out is that you establish borders. They apply for 251 00:30:04.400 --> 00:30:10.000 immigration. They come through the process and guess what you find out? These seven people were 252 00:30:10.000 --> 00:30:19.600 fantastic. Come on in. Listen, my, my, of course, if you're in America, our great grandparents 253 00:30:19.600 --> 00:30:29.200 came here from other countries. Think about it. My, my grandparents on my mom's side, they came, 254 00:30:29.200 --> 00:30:36.000 they came to an American territory at the time that was called Hawaii from Portugal or excuse 255 00:30:36.000 --> 00:30:42.960 me from Brazil. But having said that, you see the hypocrisy of that? The pope. What a come on? 256 00:30:43.840 --> 00:30:50.880 What a hypocr, hypocritical thing to say. Trump is mean, ugly, brutal, 257 00:30:51.920 --> 00:30:57.840 pope. Why don't you just make another room? I'm sure the room that you sleep in is so gigantic. 258 00:30:57.840 --> 00:31:02.400 You could probably bring in 50 beds. Let's have people move into the Vatican. 259 00:31:02.960 --> 00:31:08.080 It's ridiculous. You think the Vladimir Putin is going to have people move into the Kremlin? 260 00:31:09.360 --> 00:31:16.640 No way. It needs to be smart for that. Did you know that there's a 100% correlation between 261 00:31:16.640 --> 00:31:22.880 the rise of crime in America and illegal immigration? I'm not saying that every illegal immigrant 262 00:31:22.880 --> 00:31:29.600 committed a crime. But I'm saying that the explosion of the crimes that have been recorded, 263 00:31:29.600 --> 00:31:39.120 100% of those explosions regarding crime. It's a 100% correlation between the rise of 264 00:31:41.840 --> 00:31:50.000 crime in America's cities from rape, break ins, gangs, formation of new gangs, all these things 265 00:31:51.360 --> 00:31:58.400 to illegal immigration. Somebody will say, and it cracks me up, the woke, the woke 266 00:31:59.120 --> 00:32:04.960 Christian crowd. They're saying, well, you know, Leviticus 19 says that we're to be nice to the 267 00:32:04.960 --> 00:32:12.800 foreigner that's among us. I'm going to forgive you for using scripture that way. You're forgiven. 268 00:32:14.000 --> 00:32:17.040 But don't, don't do that again because you really look dumb. 269 00:32:17.680 --> 00:32:22.640 Who is the book of Leviticus written to? 270 00:32:26.960 --> 00:32:37.440 The Jews. It's one of the five books of the Pentateuch, Moses. Who do you write that to? 271 00:32:38.400 --> 00:32:50.320 The Jews. If a non-Jew lives among you, they're considered foreigners to the Jew. 272 00:32:52.960 --> 00:33:02.880 How about this? If you are a foreigner, not a Jew, you're a Gentile. The foreigner and the 273 00:33:02.880 --> 00:33:10.240 Gentile is the same person in the first five books of the Bible. Some of these pastors that have 274 00:33:10.240 --> 00:33:16.400 actually touched sermons on, we need to love our neighbor and we need to take care of the foreigner 275 00:33:16.400 --> 00:33:24.880 that's among us. It doesn't say you need to aid and abate those who have broken the law of God 276 00:33:25.680 --> 00:33:35.920 and take them in and do all that stuff. It means that you're to be kind to those who live among 277 00:33:35.920 --> 00:33:49.760 you that are not Jews. Wow. What else? Did you know that the very word nation puts an end to your 278 00:33:49.760 --> 00:33:59.920 argument of this bizarre emotional theology? Nations. Nations have borders. Nations have kings. 279 00:33:59.920 --> 00:34:05.920 Nations have governments. Nations have prime ministers and presidents. Nations have leaders. 280 00:34:07.280 --> 00:34:14.080 And the nation, listen, the nations of leaders according to the Bible, they communicate to other 281 00:34:14.640 --> 00:34:21.200 nations with leaders throughout the Bible. And what does human history teach us? Human history teaches 282 00:34:21.200 --> 00:34:28.880 us that nations invade other nations. Nations bless other nations. Nations come to the aid of other 283 00:34:28.880 --> 00:34:35.920 nations. Nations join together to defend one another as a group against hostile nations. 284 00:34:36.480 --> 00:34:42.640 If you want to open up our borders and our gates and let crime rage, 285 00:34:45.520 --> 00:34:50.640 you're actually a danger to the United States or if you're watching this in Great Britain or 286 00:34:50.640 --> 00:34:56.560 if you're watching this in Peru, you're endangering your country with that kind of a worldview. 287 00:34:57.680 --> 00:35:05.360 Did you know that? What do you think? What do you think in America? I can't speak for any of 288 00:35:05.360 --> 00:35:09.520 a country. In the United States, did you know that you raised your right hand? You put your left 289 00:35:09.520 --> 00:35:16.240 hand on a left hand on a Bible and you swear an oath. If you're going into law enforcement, 290 00:35:17.520 --> 00:35:26.080 if you're going into law, if you're going into politics, did you know and military? Did you know 291 00:35:26.080 --> 00:35:33.040 that you swear an oath to uphold the laws of this land and to defend the Constitution against 292 00:35:33.040 --> 00:35:43.760 enemies foreign and domestic? That's the law. So if if MS-13 is here in America and they are by 293 00:35:43.760 --> 00:35:54.800 the tens of thousands, whoever let them in has committed treason. Here in simple, a treasonous act 294 00:35:55.520 --> 00:36:03.280 to open up the gates and to dismiss the watchman on the wall are border security agents 295 00:36:04.000 --> 00:36:10.160 so that they would run in. Joe Biden is guilty of treason according to the Constitution. 296 00:36:11.040 --> 00:36:16.400 And the borders are Kamala Harris. It was her responsibility to manage the border for four years. 297 00:36:17.200 --> 00:36:26.160 Treason. The Democrat legislators in Washington, D.C. and in California and in Texas and in 298 00:36:26.160 --> 00:36:34.720 Arizona treason. So that's my opinion, pure fact. That's what it means to swear an oath to the 299 00:36:34.720 --> 00:36:43.680 Constitution. So a little bit of a wake up call. Heaven has gates. The city of God in heaven has 300 00:36:43.680 --> 00:36:53.040 city limits. It's in the Bible. Start reading in Revelation chapter 20 and you'll come to the end 301 00:36:53.040 --> 00:36:57.760 two chapters later. You have the end and you're going to find out that heaven has gates, heaven has 302 00:36:57.760 --> 00:37:04.960 walls. In fact, the Bible says all those who are outside the walls are cowards, the abominable, 303 00:37:05.920 --> 00:37:13.840 manslayers, fornicators, adulterers. And he's actually saying those that are outside the gates of 304 00:37:13.840 --> 00:37:21.920 heaven, they're in hell. Read it later. But people, we got to wake up to this thing and I'm going to end 305 00:37:21.920 --> 00:37:32.160 with this. I'm not going to give all the details on this one, but this is the first time I've 306 00:37:32.160 --> 00:37:41.120 ever said it publicly. How's that? So some years ago and I'm waiting for my phone to ring. I'm 307 00:37:41.120 --> 00:37:49.600 not joking. I'm waiting for my phone to ring because one day years ago here in California, 308 00:37:49.600 --> 00:38:03.440 boom, it was like an epiphany. It's like, what? I instantly had an answer to at least part of 309 00:38:03.440 --> 00:38:10.880 the immigration problem here in California. So I'm not going to name names, but I picked up the 310 00:38:10.880 --> 00:38:15.920 phone and I called a very dear friend in Washington DC and I said, hey, let me run something by you. 311 00:38:15.920 --> 00:38:25.600 If the system's broken and it is and it's been broken at least, maybe even beforehand, 312 00:38:25.600 --> 00:38:35.280 but at least since Ronald Reagan. And it's got nothing but worse. It's hard to fix something 313 00:38:35.280 --> 00:38:40.560 that is so broke, but you got to start mending things. In other words, you know what? You know what 314 00:38:40.720 --> 00:38:49.680 triages basically triages. If there's blood and guts laying everywhere, then you got to do the best 315 00:38:49.680 --> 00:38:56.320 you can to stop the bleeding. Does it make sense? You got to start somewhere. So guess what, 316 00:38:56.320 --> 00:39:03.920 everybody? Donald Trump has started somewhere. In what's Trump saying? If you're here illegally, 317 00:39:04.640 --> 00:39:09.760 you got to go. That's what he said. That's what he said. He's always said that. That's what the 318 00:39:09.760 --> 00:39:16.720 law says. It's so funny. You, I'm just pretending now. I don't know who you are, but I'm just picking 319 00:39:16.720 --> 00:39:27.360 on you and it's kind of fun. You're upset with Trump. Why? Because Trump is literally obeying the 320 00:39:27.360 --> 00:39:36.960 law regarding immigration. But we have a big problem. The law has been broken for so long. How do we 321 00:39:36.960 --> 00:39:43.760 get back to at least ground zero? We're so subterranean. How do we get back to the top? 322 00:39:46.400 --> 00:39:49.680 We could start with this. Oh, and by the way, let me get a little secret. 323 00:39:52.160 --> 00:39:57.760 Trump is not going to throw away, throw out all illegal immigrants. 324 00:40:00.240 --> 00:40:05.840 Now that he's president, I can tell you this. He was never intending to do that, but Nancy Pelosi 325 00:40:05.840 --> 00:40:14.080 didn't know that neither did Chuck Schumer. Neither did the Democrat party. They didn't, they didn't, 326 00:40:14.080 --> 00:40:18.080 they didn't know that. Here's what Trump's doing. Have you noticed? Have you watched the news? 327 00:40:18.080 --> 00:40:25.760 Who's he rounding up? Known murders, known rapists, known killers, violent people who not only 328 00:40:25.760 --> 00:40:32.800 committed crimes here, but we have the data from the countries that they came from that they were 329 00:40:32.800 --> 00:40:38.720 wanted criminals in their countries. That's why those countries are saying we don't want our people 330 00:40:38.720 --> 00:40:45.760 back. They're dangerous. They're murders. Now, I'm not going to tell you what the Bible says, 331 00:40:45.760 --> 00:40:51.360 what you should do to a murder, but it would sure fix the problem or a rapist by the way. 332 00:40:51.760 --> 00:40:56.720 So here's the deal. Trump is not 333 00:40:59.920 --> 00:41:06.800 dividing up families. It's not happened. It's not happening. Unless your family member committed 334 00:41:06.800 --> 00:41:18.960 a felony, then yeah. So here's the deal. What if I know someone who's illegal and they've been in 335 00:41:19.280 --> 00:41:27.440 they've been in California for 13 years, nine years. Let's say they 336 00:41:29.680 --> 00:41:37.920 mow my lawn every week or they clean my house every week or they paint or they, 337 00:41:37.920 --> 00:41:42.480 you know what I'm saying? You know somebody like this. Good people, but they're here illegally. 338 00:41:42.960 --> 00:41:54.160 Here's what you do. Here's where you start. I'm going to make up a name. If I know one and one has 339 00:41:54.160 --> 00:42:03.040 been doing my yard and he's great. Love the guy, faithful, hardworking. I've met his wife, his kids. 340 00:42:04.000 --> 00:42:12.480 You know what I'm going to, you know what I'm proposing? That I, Jack, say to one, one, do you have 341 00:42:12.480 --> 00:42:18.240 two other Americans like myself that you know three? Three of them. Do you know three Americans 342 00:42:18.240 --> 00:42:22.880 that can vouch for you? Yes, I do. All right, here's what we're going to do. We're going to vouch for 343 00:42:22.880 --> 00:42:28.320 you. We're going to fill out this form because it's now law. We are going to fill this form out 344 00:42:29.120 --> 00:42:35.520 and the process is this. Cost no money to anyone. One, you just keep doing what you're doing, 345 00:42:35.520 --> 00:42:44.160 but I'll be interviewed by ice and so will Mike and so will Susie. We three will be interviewed by ice 346 00:42:47.040 --> 00:42:55.200 and am I in trouble? I have a meeting right now. Oh no, you guys want to do part two? 347 00:42:55.520 --> 00:43:01.200 We're going to do a part two and I'm going to give you the answer that Trump ought to listen to 348 00:43:01.840 --> 00:43:08.880 and others. Wow, I'm at a time. I'm in so much trouble. I'm so late. I'm not going to tell you what 349 00:43:08.880 --> 00:43:19.520 to do next. Goodbye. This Jack Kibb's podcast as well as all the broadcast outreach opportunities 350 00:43:19.520 --> 00:43:24.240 are listener supported. Will you consider partnering with us through a special gift? 351 00:43:24.960 --> 00:43:30.560 Go to jackhibbs.com to learn more and stay connected.