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Real life presents the Jack Hibbs podcast with intention and boldness to proclaim

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truth, equip the saints, and impact our culture. Hey, where was Jesus when he

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died on the cross? What happened to him? What was going on? When if he's dead?

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Well, how did the world stay together? If he's God, let's find out.

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You can get the outlines of this podcast by going to jackhibbs.com slash podcast.

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Today, if this podcast lifts you up and encourages you to live a more fulfilled

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life in Christ, then make sure you leave us one of those five star ratings. To us,

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that's like saying amen or yes, then that rating will encourage others to listen.

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Now, open your hearts to what God's word has to say to you. Here is Jack Hibbs.

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Hey, everybody. Welcome to this podcast. And I'm prone to most often say welcome to

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this special podcast. To us, they're all special. I hope they're special to you. I hope

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that they are making a difference in your life because we're bringing you truth and we're

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bringing you what to live by thus we are called real life. And this being the Jack Hibbs podcast

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and the ministry that I'm involved in and the in the para para ministries I'm involved in.

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Most of them carry the real life brand name tag to it. The reason why is because we believe

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that Christianity is not that we believe it. How about that? That's even the wrong way to say it.

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We know that Christianity, Biblically based Christianity, not modern day man defined Christianity.

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We're talking about Bible based Christianity is a fact. It is the reality. And so thus it is

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real life. To live real life is to live out the Word of God. We take this both from now in our

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lives to the grave and into eternity. And let's talk about that for a moment. Let's just jump in

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to this. And I'm going to cover too many areas of scripture to be turning pages back and forward.

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So I'm going to ask you to pay attention. And then I'm going to ask you maybe look that up.

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I'll say something like that. You can look that up here or look that up there. But let's talk about

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this. Let's talk about the fact that no other faith organization, no other faith group can claim.

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And that is for we as believers, followers of Christ, we're the only ones who can claim

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based on fact that our founder of our faith is none other than God himself. Meaning this that we

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start in Genesis 1-1 in the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth. And that's where we begin.

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And we end in Revelation chapter 22 where the Lord says behold, I come quickly, even so come quickly

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Lord Jesus. And what makes up the entire Bible is the truth of God. This book does not contain

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the word of God. This book is the word of God. And when I say that, I mean that there are

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not parts of this scripture that you can apply to today's life. That would make you honestly

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somewhat of a heretic to say, well, we believe the New Testament applies today, but not the old,

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or we believe that some of the New Testament applies, but not the rest of it and certainly not

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the old. Look, it's equally wrong for someone to say, and I have friends who say this, only the

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first five books of the Bible apply. The rest of it doesn't. That's equally wrong. God has

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preserved for us his entire word. And the scripture backs itself up from Deuteronomy, for example,

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from Revelation, from Matthew, from Isaiah, where Jeremiah, where the scriptures warn proverbs,

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the scriptures warn that you are not to add to the scriptures or take away from the scriptures.

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For if you do, the very curses of this word will come upon you. You don't mess with God's word.

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So coming from that, we want to ask this question. Regarding the resurrection of Jesus Christ

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from the dead, no other faith group can claim this. Mohammed did not rise from the dead.

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There's no evidence of Mohammed rising from the dead, and there's no message in Islam that

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Mohammed did rise from the dead. What about Buddhism? What about Hinduism? What about Taoism?

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What about Hinduism? All of these things that are faith positions have no form of salvation

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provided to the adherent by the very one in whom they worship. I want you to hear that again.

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Each of those organizations have a worship system, but none of their worship system

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has its founder being the one who pays the price for their sins, establishes righteousness,

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is resurrected from the dead, promising you that you too can now live forever, but Jesus Christ

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alone. Why is that true? Because there's only one book in the entire universe that said that's

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exactly what he would do. And so somebody might say, well, where does the Bible say this?

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Where does the Bible say that? We get that all the time. Where does the Bible say about homosexuality

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throughout the Bible? Why don't you read it? You want the answer? Read it. Well, where does the

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Bible say stuff about the rapture in the Bible? You should read it. Where does the Bible say about

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capital or corporal, corporal punishment? Somebody should be put the death for a particular crime.

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The Bible says this throughout. There's the consistency or the harmony of the scriptures,

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the expositional constancy of scriptures. There is the hermeneutics and the homiletics of the

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Bible. There are laws to the interpretation of the Bible that keep it intact for us, the reader,

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for us, the student. Now, let's talk about this. Jesus Christ resurrected from the dead. Let's

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first of all back up. Jesus Christ before the resurrection, the Bible tells us that he was God

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come to earth in human flesh. That's Old Testament doctrine and New Testament doctrine.

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That Jesus Christ, by being the Messiah, when the apostles and disciples, for example, heard

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the voice from heaven in the excellent glory say, this is my beloved son in whom I'm well pleased.

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We often think that that's a very sweet thing to say about Jesus. Isn't that a nicety? No,

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it's not a nicety. It's beyond all that. When God the Father spoke from heaven above

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to the disciples, when he said, this is my only son in whom I'm well pleased, it means this is my

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one and only manifestation of who I am in person to you, mankind. And it is him alone that is

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acceptable to me. There's no other. There's no other that has ever been. There is no other that

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is and there is no other that shall be. It is Christ alone who's acceptable to the Father.

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This is my beloved son in whom I'm well pleased. By the way, that's all buttoned up in this term.

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This is my begotten son. There's only one begotten son. There will not be a second.

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That's why when you study the deity of Christ, now some of you who are of cults, maybe Mormonism

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or Jehovah witnesses or maybe Islam or maybe Judaism, you're saying, we don't believe that he's

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the only begotten son. We have a problem with the word of God because the word of God tells you

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an old and new testament that there's only going to be one son of God that is going to be given,

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one son of God provided, one son of God acknowledges the atonement, one son of God resurrected from

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the dead. That's Old Testament theology. That is Psalms 2, Psalm 22. That is Isaiah 7, Isaiah 9. That is

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Proverbs 30. We can go on and on. Just Old Testament alone on this. But let's talk about Christ being

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on the cross. This is God in human flesh. For those 33 and a quarter years that he lived at being

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born from the Virgin Mary, Isaiah 7, Christ is born into this world. God in human skin,

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he felt everything that you and I feel. He felt cold, he felt hungry, he felt pain, he felt sorrow.

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In fact, I personally believe that he felt it more perfectly than any of us could ever feel

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anything. But what he didn't have was a sin nature, which is a remarkable thing. Jesus did not

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have a sin nature, meaning that he didn't have to fight with what you and I fight with. His fight

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was actually greater. See, what do you mean, Jack? Jesus didn't have a sin nature because he was

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God, yet 100% man. But watch this. Jesus Christ and all points was tempted just like us, yet without

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sin. The Bible tells us in the book of Hebrews as an example. So when Christ was tempted,

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was he really tempted? Yes, it was intensity, yet he didn't sin. We were born with the nature of

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sin. You and I have that. Christ was born without that nature. But when Satan tempted him, for example,

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in the wilderness of Judea for 40 days, those were real legit temptations. Those temptations were

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so great that you and I are only tempted in those areas by fraction. For example, when Satan said

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to Jesus, why don't you just bow down and worship me? And I will give you all the kingdoms of this

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world. That was real. Satan may be dangerous, but he's not stupid. What Satan said to Jesus was

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100% truth. Jesus just bowed down and worshiped me, and I'll give it all to you.

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What made that a real temptation was that Satan was offering something to Jesus that Satan could give

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him. This world right now is under Satan's domain. Think of that. Right now, the realm, the authorities

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of this world are under the principality and the power of the air, the ruler of this world,

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the Bible says, Satan. Jesus Christ in coming, look at it this way, he invaded what C.S.

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Lewis says, he invaded enemy occupied territory. When Christ came into this world,

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Jesus invaded enemy occupied territory. The enemy is occupying this territory, the world.

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Christ invaded by being born into this world. And so when Satan said, just bow down and worship me,

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and I'll give you everything, that was a real legitimate temptation. Why did you turn these

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stones? You're starving to death. Why didn't you turn these stones into bread? You can do that.

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Satan did not deny the power of Jesus. Satan came at an opportune moment when Christ was about

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to die in the physical body. Satan came and said, when you like to eat right now, I know you would.

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Remember how good bread taste? I'm getting an unknown caller.

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Satan knew exactly what he was doing. He knew exactly how to dangle that temptation in front of him.

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So the sceptations that Christ experienced in the wilderness, they were more than real to us.

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They were exceedingly difficult. When Satan said, as he placed Jesus at the pinnacle of the temple,

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throw yourself down. Doesn't the scripture say that you will not dash your foot against the stone,

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but the angels of heaven will bear you up? Satan misquoted that psalm, trying to trick Jesus up.

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And what did Jesus respond by saying, they'll shall not tempt the Lord thy God.

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But listen, man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.

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So when Jesus died on the cross for our sins, it was God there dying for us because only God

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and his death could atone for our sins. Not any good man. It had to be more than a good man.

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It had to be Christ himself. When he died, how did he die? Watch, this sounds like a trick question.

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A pause for a moment. How did Jesus Christ die? Your normal answer is going to be crucifixion, right?

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Somebody could say exposure, blood loss, exhaustion. How did Jesus Christ die? The Bible tells us.

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After the atmosphere had turned completely dark, for the space of three hours, God laid on Jesus,

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the iniquity of us all, Isaiah 53. Jesus then says, to tell us, die, it is finished.

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When his atoning work on the cross was finished for the sins of mankind, how did Jesus die?

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The Bible says Jesus dismissed his spirit. You cannot do that. I cannot do that.

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Only God can do that. When Jesus had paid the price for sin's debt, a price that you and I

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could never pay, he paid it for us. When he finished the job, he dismissed himself from his physical

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body. This is where it gets fun. His body died. The moment Jesus dismissed his spirit, his body died.

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Look, the moment your spirit leaves your body, your body dies. When someone is pronounced dead

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at the scene of the accident, it's because your spirit has left your body.

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You're gone. We only have your body. Listen, in 1st Thessalonians chapter 5 verse 23,

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it says, may the Lord, may the Lord Jesus Christ sanctify you fully,

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completely, body, soul, and spirit. So friends, listen, when Jesus died on the cross,

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and his body was hanging on the cross, where did Jesus go? What became of Jesus?

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What? Be careful. You want to think this through. Because some of your friends will tell you,

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how could Jesus be God? If he died, the whole universe would have fallen apart, right? Because

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isn't he God? Yes, he's God. See, your mistake is thinking that his physical body is what's

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holding the universe together. You need to think bigger, friend. When Jesus dismissed his spirit,

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the body dies on the cross. Christ, his soul and his spirit never died. Only his body died.

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So what do we know? We know that for three days, the body of Christ lay in the tomb. We know

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that during the time that Christ was laying in the tomb in his body, we know that the book of Hebrews

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and the book of Leviticus requires that for our atonement to be secured forever, our treasure

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to be laid up in heaven forever had to be offered up by Jesus Christ. It means that Christ would

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have been conducting his priestly ministry before the Father who's in heaven.

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It means that during those hours, those days of Christ's body lying in the tomb,

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it means that he would have fulfilled the Old Testament promise recorded in the book of Ephesians,

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where it says that he would have gone down and preached to those who were what we refer to in

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Abraham's bosom, sheol or Hades. Did you know that before Christ rose again from the dead bodily?

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Did you know that when David died, for example, or Noah died, for example? Did you know that none of

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them went to heaven? Nobody had gone to heaven. Nobody. Nobody. Listen, even the thief on the cross,

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what did Jesus say to the thief on the cross? He said, today you'll be with me in paradise. He

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didn't say heaven, big difference. Today you'll be with me in paradise. When Jesus died,

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his body died first and then later the thief on the cross died, what happened? Jesus said, today

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you'll be with me in paradise. When that thief on the cross died, his body remained on the tomb,

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but his spirit and his soul went straight to Abraham's bosom, straight to sheol or to Hades.

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It's referred to in Scripture as I'll draw it because it's easier for me to explain.

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There's these, we'll call them two compartments. In Hades or sheol, we know from Luke 15 and Luke

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chapter 16, there is the place that is called referred to affectionately as Abraham's bosom,

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where Abraham, Daniel, Noah, Adam, Isaiah, the thief on the cross, Ezekiel. Remember when the

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Old Testament says, for example, to Daniel, Daniel, it's time for you to die. You're going to be

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gathered to your fathers. It's this spot, it's this spot right here. From so to speak,

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I say so to speak, accurately, I assume Adam repented of his sin and I assume that Adam was the

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first guy when he died to enter here. In the last guy, we don't know if the thief on the cross was,

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in fact, the last guy doesn't matter. Let's just say that he is for now. Everyone from Adam

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to the thief on the cross, as an example, saying he was, it could have been somebody else,

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but they went to what's called Abraham's bosom or paradise. Luke gives you some description

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that in between this place is a huge gulf, a great canyon. The verbiage is actually a gulf,

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g-u-l-f, a chasm. And then over here is torment. This is not exactly hell. This is also

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referred to as Hades. But listen, when Jesus Christ died on the cross, it says that He came and He

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preached the gospel to those who were captive. That's a great, broad statement because it would

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have also meant that He would have preached the gospel to those that are in, we'll call hell,

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though it's not technically hell. It gets complicated and it's a podcast for some other time,

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but Abraham's bosom, paradise, sheol or Hades, Hades or sheol divided in half,

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pleasant, torturous, believer, pre-resurrection, believers, unbelievers, the wicked.

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When Jesus Christ announced that He was the promised Messiah, He announced that to both camps.

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Can I put it this way? To these guys, He said, hey, I'm the one you guys knew about. I'm the one

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that you guys trusted in. I'm the one that you guys were looking forward to. I'm the one. I say,

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I'm the one you talked about. Hang on a minute. Hey, you know all you guys that rejected everything

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that Abraham had told you, everything that had been preached to you, that nature itself had

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preached to you, everything that you had heard and you had rejected. I'm the one. I'm the one

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that you rejected. You should have listened. I'm the Messiah. Those guys over here, they were

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correct. You should have listened to them. Read Luke 15 and Luke 16, okay? The Bible says in Ephesians

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that he took these captive. It's a term by the way, beautiful term used regarding a conquering Roman

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general. He took them captive. This is the spoils of his victory. He took them captive. Don't you

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want to be captive by Jesus? I want to be captured by Jesus. He took them captive. So technically,

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the thief on the cross spent the shortest amount of time in paradise as possible. He was just

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visiting. Can you imagine? Man, I wonder what happened. Oh, wow. Anyway, we could have fun with that.

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But the Bible says that Jesus took all of these who had trusted in him from Adam to the thief on

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the cross and he led them in a grand and glorious entrance into heaven. He led captivity captive

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and the Bible says he gave gifts unto men. That is a beautiful statement referring to the gift of

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salvation was given to them and they were delivered into heaven above and also the outpouring of the

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Holy Spirit gifts given to the church on the day of Pentecost. He purchased those gifts with his

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own blood. As of this hour, this paradise is now empty. No one's there. When someone dies, you

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actually know the answer to this. When someone dies, the Bible says that to be absent from the body

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is to be present with the Lord. If you die today as a believer, your spirit, your soul immediately

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goes to be with Jesus. Immediately. It doesn't go here. It doesn't go here. It goes to be with the Lord.

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If somebody dies today, not believing in Christ, the non-believer dies today. Where do they go? They

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go right here. They go right here. Sheol, Hades. They're not officially in hell, not yet.

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This area will be taken at the end of the book of Revelation. It will be taken and it will be cast

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into the lake of fire. Death in hell shall be cast into the lake of fire that burns forever.

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Yeesh. Think of that. So, departing from this now, we move on that during those three days,

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where is Jesus? There are various ministries that Jesus is fulfilling during that period prior to

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his resurrection. Remarkable. He's not somewhere in limbo. He's not somewhere floating in a some

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solution of water, spirit, world. It's not purgatory. That doesn't exist. The Bible tells us

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that it's not some limbo land that doesn't exist. Jesus Christ was in some way, shape, and form

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very active from the moment of his bodily death. And then when he rose again from the dead on that

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Sunday morning, his tomb was found empty. And listen, you read all four gospels and there's

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various accounts of what has gone on or what is going on with resurrected Christ. Remember,

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the women saw him. The angels are announcing he's not Harry's risen from the dead. Mary is crying.

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She sees the guard. Look at my finger. Watch my fingers. She sees the gardener and says,

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where have you taken the body of my Lord? Just tell me where you've taken them. And I'll take it

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from there. And Jesus said, Mary, Mary. And she realizes, Roboni, Roboni, teacher, teacher, rabbi,

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rabbi. And remember, the clinging onto Jesus at one point Jesus says, don't cling to me before I

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have not yet ascended. Isn't that interesting? I personally believe that after the resurrection,

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when Jesus says to her, don't hold me down. Don't cling to me. I've not yet ascended that at some

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point in time after that moment, Jesus appears in heaven in his glorified body as our high priest

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representative. And sees to it that his blood is offered up on the ark of the covenant, which is

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the actual ark, not Indiana Jones's ark, not Stephen Spielberg's ark, not the ark that was

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in the earthly temple. That was a model. Those were those were images of that, which is in heaven.

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Jesus presents his blood on the seat of atonement, on the seat of sacrifice in heaven above,

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where moth and rust and thief cannot break in and steal nor rust corrupt. Isn't that great? Your

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salvation is safe in heaven, not in some structure, some building on earth, some where thank God.

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So you see, friend, listen, Jesus' body died. Jesus didn't cease to exist and to meditate on the

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ministry that took place on the cross, after the cross, during the body line in the tomb to

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resurrection Sunday morning when his body was resurrected from the dead in his glorified state.

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I find it fascinating that Jesus, when he rose again from the dead, still bore the scars of his

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beatings and of his crucifixion. The book of Zechariah tells us that when Christ returns in the

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second coming to the nation of Israel, to the city of Jerusalem, the Bible tells us what Israel

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will say just always upsets the replacement theology goofs, but that's their problem.

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In the second coming Israel will have petitioned God three times. Come, come, and it says on the

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third time that they petition, he will appear. And they will say, what are these wounds that you

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have received in your hands and in your side? And Jesus says to them, these are the wounds that I

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received in the house of my friends. He's speaking of his own brethren. He returns to the mount of

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olives. He returns to Zion. He returns to the temple mount. And the Bible tells us that

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in the second coming events, the mount of olives will cleave and half.

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And the water will gush up and out of the mountain and part of the water will flow down

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into the Mediterranean Sea and part of the water will flow down into the Dead Sea.

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And then as that's going on, the Bible says Zion will be elevated.

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The second coming of Christ will have taken place.

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Amazing things. It's fun to imagine. It's fun to think. It's fun to scour scripture and do us

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a word study and search. What was Jesus doing after his physical death on the cross

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before his miraculous, glorious physical resurrection on that Sunday morning? This we know for sure.

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Eternal ministry was taking place for you. Friends, your salvation is secure in Jesus Christ

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if you have salvation. People will say, well, what camp are you of? Are you of one saved, always saved?

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Or do you believe you can lose your salvation? I believe that kind of questioning comes from

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sloppy logic, sloppy thinking, lazy thinking for this reason.

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If Jesus says in John chapter 10, if you're in my hand, you're in my father's hand,

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and nobody can snatch you out of our hands, sounds pretty secure to me.

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The Bible says in first John, these things have been written that you might know that you have

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eternal life. Sounds pretty secure to me. You see, we're asking the wrong questions. We've come

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to the wrong assumptions. It's not, do you believe that someone can lose their salvation? I'm not

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interested in that question. I'm interested in this question. Do you have salvation?

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A lot of people look like they're saved, act like they're saved for a long time.

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But over the time of perils and difficulties and trials and pain and the hardship of life

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and the trials of this world, they wind up giving up. There's no visible fruit in their lives.

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Did they lose their salvation? No. They were tears. They were goats. They were not sheep.

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They were not wheat. They were false brethren.

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Jesus says in Matthew 13, these are they who believe for a while.

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But when the world comes to them, they go back into the world. They never had salvation.

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They only believe. They didn't have faith. A lot of people believe. The challenge for you today

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is, do you have faith in the Lord Jesus Christ to do what He says He'll do? You don't lose your

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salvation if you have it. The question is, do you have it? Or are you almost a Christian?

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If you're saved, that means the Holy Spirit dwells within you.

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And the Holy Spirit bears witness with your spirit that you are a child of God.

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Do you mess up? Oh, yeah, you do. And you hate it, don't you? I do. Do you fall short? Yes, we do.

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But we know it and we hate it. A person who is religious and not saved, that doesn't concern them.

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They'll just act a little better tomorrow and work it off. You see, the real Christian doesn't live

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like that. The real Christian is 24, 7365 walking in the spirit. And when we fail to walk in the spirit,

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our alarms go off and we're immediately convicted. And we come to him and we repent of our sin.

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Friends, listen, the hour is late. You know, at the time, and I'm wrapping this up now, at the time

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of this podcast, we've just heard on the news that Israel has been given hours

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before Iran attacks it. Now, at the time of you watching this podcast, because, you know,

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we got to engineer it and get it out, only God knows what will transpire from this day forward.

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I'm all that to say, you better know Jesus. You better be able to explain these things.

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How did Jesus Christ die on the cross? What did His dying on the cross do for you?

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How does God forgive sin? How is God righteous when some people go to hell and some people go to heaven?

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When, why did Jesus rise from the dead? How is he qualified? If you don't know the answer to

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these simple questions, how can you be a Christian? How can you say you're a Christian when you don't

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know what it is that you believe in? Times are serious. We're getting near to the end.

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You must, must know where you stand with God. I pray that you give your life to Christ,

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own up to your own sin, give it to Christ, repent of your sin, turn away from it and turn to him.

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Believe in that he died on the cross and rose again from the dead and he promised to save you

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to the uttermost. God is so good. Friends, listen, if this has ministered to you, if you want others to

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give us a five star rating, somehow in the algorithm in the social media world that helps us

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bump, get bumped up. It makes a difference. I don't get it, but you do, perhaps, but as always,

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listen, share this with others. Jackibs.com is where you can find everything that we do

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