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Real life presents the Jack Hibbs podcast with intention and boldness to proclaim truth,

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equip the saints and impact our culture.

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It's a human right and dignity given by the God we know that they should be able to

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pray, if they're Muslims they should be able to practice Islam in their country freely.

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And only a Christian can have that kind of security to endorse such things in a foreign

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land.

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Why?

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What gives them that confidence in that country?

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Because Jesus is the way the truth and the life.

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That it may be that by them practicing their religion, they wind up finding the emptiness

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of it and coming to Christ.

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You can get the outlines of this podcast by going to jackhibbs.com slash podcast.

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Today, if this podcast lifts you up and encourages you to live a more fulfilled life in Christ,

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Now open your hearts to what God's word has to say to you, here is Jack Hibbs.

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Mr. Secretary, what would you say to the young people today regarding their nation's need

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for them?

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What would you say to the young people today regarding their purpose?

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This next generation I am enormously optimistic about.

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I see young people all across America who are believers in Jesus Christ who understand

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this country.

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They are under attack in our schools.

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There have been taught things that are deeply inconsistent with a Christian worldview.

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And so I would tell them, learn, listen, obey your parents as the Bible tells us to do.

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My son, if you were here today, he'd say, I know how dad's going to answer that.

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There were three things that I would just come back to with my son.

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Work hard, tell the truth, and keep your faith.

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And if you do those three things, if you do those three things, not every day, but many

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days, the Lord will bless you.

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That's right.

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Good answer.

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Good answer.

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Today, in our military, all of us, this church is no stranger to supporting and acknowledging

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our military.

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There's a lot going on where Russia, for example, is kind of making fun of our new, what

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is it, a feminized military?

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They're saying that America is becoming a sensitive flowery type of military, which I take

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that.

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You know, that's tough to hear.

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But the urgency, I guess what I'm saying is, regarding our military and the support for

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our military, we all enjoy our freedoms, but we don't realize every day what you and

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others give us.

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And so the world, it doesn't seem to be getting safer.

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And America needs to be strong.

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What can you say to us about why it's important to be willing to give it all for our freedoms?

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So as someone who had the incredible privilege to serve as a young tank platoon leader, my

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unit patrolled the East German border before we, we, America, freed millions of East Germans

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from the tyranny of the communist regime there.

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I watch our young soldiers.

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I want them to be led by men of conviction, who men who understand that the important

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role that our military plays is to be strong so that a secondary state can travel the world,

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knowing that our adversaries know that behind him, behind his words, behind his diplomatic

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mission as a military that is strong and capable.

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I do worry when our military leaders become too political, it concerns me.

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They have a mission set, it is a mission set that is crystal clear, and that is to be

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prepared to fight America's wars when we need to.

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I must say, one of the things I'm most proud of of my four years serving alongside President

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Trump is that we were strong in the tradition of Ronald Reagan.

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We understood the strength, the turs war, and that weakness begets it.

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We didn't put our young kids into any wars.

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No new wars started during our four years.

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Wow.

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We brought peace.

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We brought peace from the White House.

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What about criticism?

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You took a stand, your faith.

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I love what you quoted a little while ago about the breath.

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How many breaths are you going to take?

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But you and I know a little bit about our founding history as a nation, and our founding fathers

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didn't see a separation.

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They saw God, as Ben Franklin said, that God governs in the affairs of man.

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We believe that America is exceptional, not for arrogant reasons, but for divine reasons.

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Can you just speak to the value of defending America, and I'm not just talking about military

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but getting involved.

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No, best jacket, it's so true.

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So, the left wants you to have this idea that somehow they've created this idea of separation

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in churches.

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The truth is they are so intricately intertwined that our success depends on our faith.

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Our founders talked about this.

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They said that this is a nation that depends on a virtuous people, and that's the people

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who are willing to get out and work, right?

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So whether that is somebody deciding to teach fifth grade Sunday school or someone who

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works at your church in the parking lot, making sure that you don't have as many wrecks

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that you had last week, I've been in church parking lots, and I've also done church politics.

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This is tough stuff.

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But the Lord is counting on each of us, and you're right about the world.

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There will be critics.

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There will be those who want to undo this greatness.

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They want to take down this nation that was founded in such an exceptional way, and then

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there are those within that want to do the same thing, that have this idea that somehow

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we were a founding was evil.

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It's simply not true.

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There's no nation that has made as much progress towards perfect equality of opportunity

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for citizens.

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That's why you mentioned this earlier this morning, that's why people still are breaking

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down the gates to try to get here.

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This is an exceptional nation, it's exceptional because people like you get this chance to

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come to this remarkable church, worship alongside of each other, and then go out into the world

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and shine that light.

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In your experience in the State Department, we share a good friend, Tony Perkins, and

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a lot of, I was surprised to hear this, that the State Department in some ways is the

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most powerful department, that it does things and sets the tone and policy.

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Can you enlighten us regarding that mantle, that task of when the plane lands, and you

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refer to this, but when the plane lands and you step out, things happen, because you

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represent these people, but if you could also insert into that amazing story, you said

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last night about those three men, I assume there were men, that were rescued out of a particular

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country.

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This was a great story, it was my second trip to North Korea to visit with Chairman Kim.

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You'll recall that Chairman Kim had returned to the American, fell name out of Warren

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Beard to the United States, only to have him die a few hours later from his maltreatment

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in the detainment he had been, the place he'd been held there in North Korea.

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We wanted desperately to get the remaining three Americans back out, and so I'd taken

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a first trip when I was the CIA director, it was a secret trip, it was really special,

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I left on Good Friday in the early in the morning, and I got back late on Easter Sunday

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night, none of you knew I was there, it was the only thing that didn't leak during my

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four years.

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My wife was happy that that news hadn't gotten out.

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But the second trip, about two o'clock in the afternoon, the meeting with Chairman Kim

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was ending, and I turned to Chairman Kim and said, President of the United States would

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like the three Americans you were holding to be put on my airplane and allowed to return

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alongside of me.

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Always.

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The meeting ended, he didn't say yes, the meeting wrapped up just a little bit later, as

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as I was walking out, he turns to me, and through a translator says, does the president

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really want those three home?

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Yes, Mr. Chairman, it's his expectation.

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So I get back to the airport, climb up on the plane and my senior team member on the plane

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says, Mr. Secretary, they just came and got a couple of our guys and they took them off

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on a white van, and we don't know where they went, and the van showed back up on the

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airport, it was a handful of minutes later.

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And out of the van, climbed my two officers, a couple of North Korean guards, and then

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the three Americans who had been detained in North Korea, you have to love President

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Trump.

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So it was amazing.

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I still, when I talk about it, it's very emotional for me, when they climbed off the airplane,

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the senior gentleman had on the flight back, on the flight back from Pyongyang through

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Tokyo and then onto Washington, D.C., had put on a three by five-card assault that he wanted

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me to have for having kept the faith and brought them back home.

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I'd bet you'll have this, I'd been the Secretary's State for all of about two weeks at this

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point.

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Wow.

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And so when we get back, we transfer, I got back on a plane that got back about ten minutes

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before the three detainees returned to Joint Base Andrews.

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And I walked in and everyone cheered because the world knew that these folks were on their

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way home.

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Television was covering, it would have been about midnight, California time.

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And I walked in and everybody said thanks, and then Mrs. Trump said to me, well, what's

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your next trick?

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I'm not, you know the truth is, I'm not sure that I achieved anything that was as personal

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rewarding as a single three men returned home to their families.

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You know, I make me wrong about this, but she did, so she asked you what your next trick,

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but there were wonderful tricks after that wasn't there.

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I mean, you God used him and it was a priority to President Trump to rescue those who were

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being held against their will for religious beliefs.

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And what a powerful thing for him to step under the soil of some country and to have that

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issue up front before we talk about anything, let's talk about religious freedoms.

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This is what a Christian, listen, friends, run for mayor after our mayor is done running.

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Run for city council, get involved.

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He mentioned I think PTA first service, run for PTA because of the effect that you can

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have, but to think that here's a man that God had raised up to step off a plane onto

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foreign soil.

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And this is amazing thing about Christianity.

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He didn't step off the plane and say, oh, you guys need to become Christians.

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He helped their nation's leaders to account that whatever religion they practice in that

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country, it's a human right and dignity given by the God we know.

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They should be able to practice, if their Muslims, they should be able to practice Islam

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in their country freely.

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And only a Christian can have that kind of security to endorse such things in a foreign

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land.

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Why?

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What gives them that confidence and that comfort?

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Because Jesus is the way the truth and the life that it may be that by them practicing

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their religion, they wind up finding the emptiness of it and coming to Christ.

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I know there's somebody in our audience right now that had that exact same thing happen

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right here right now.

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But so the moving forward and we kind of start to wrap this up is the question to you,

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especially a native Californian.

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I was thinking of California.

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Let me see, California politicians in DC.

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We have to break the mold friends of people like Kamala Harris and Nancy Pelosi, Barbara

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Boxer, Diane Feinstein, Eric Swellwell.

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I met a young man this last week, his name is David.

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And I had not recognized him on campus before.

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And we met one another and I said, you're new.

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He said, yeah, he said, I moved from Colorado here to California.

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I said, you moved to California.

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I said, what's with that?

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And he said, this is where the fight is.

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That was a young man saying that.

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I love that.

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Do we dare ask you, do we say anything about your future?

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Is that just under wraps?

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Yeah, this is an easy question.

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The Lord knows precisely what I'll be doing.

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But I will say this, Pastor Jack, you're talking about the fight being here.

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I've been at this since I was a young man.

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This fight for America, this conviction that I have in my heart, I'm going to stay in

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that fight.

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I don't know what the role will be.

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I don't know the place the world will find me.

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We always thank California because you brought some great people to the state of Kansas.

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And I know this too, as I'm here this morning was we were driving it and we saw people walking

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for long distances to be here.

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We'll be in the pews here this morning.

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We know that this state and that this church is doing important things and it is awakening

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people all across this area.

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Stay at it.

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Stay in the fight.

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I'll stay inside it alongside of you.

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And the Lord will eat put each of us in the rightful place to honor his word and his

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truth.

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Amen.

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Amen.

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