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Real life presents the Jack Hibbs podcast with intention and boldness to proclaim

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truth, equip the saints and impact our culture. Hey everybody, God has been on the

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move in these last few years of shaking things and we've just gone through

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the latest shaking. There's a seismic shift taking place and I'm loving it. I'm

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embracing it because the Bible tells us that God is going to shake things in

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the last days. What's going to be shaky next and so much so that we've just

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been unburnt by what has been. So wow, let's see what's next. You can get the

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outlines of this podcast by going to jackhibbs.com slash podcast. Today, if this

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podcast lifts you up and encourages you to live a more fulfilled life in Christ,

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then make sure you leave us one of those five star ratings. To us, that's like

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saying, Amen or yes, then that rating will encourage others to listen. Now open

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your hearts to what God's word has to say to you. Here is Jack Hibbs. Hey everybody,

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really, really, I think I hope to the point type of a quick infusion of our

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podcast together. Thank you for joining us for the Jack Hibbs podcast and just

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want to give a shout out to everybody who is so kind and encouraging. Just

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recently trafficked through a couple of airports and had strangers come up to me

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and say, we watch the podcast. We love the podcast. We've got our our college

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age kids now watching the podcast and their dorms at school. And it's just like,

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what? That's awesome. So excited about that kind of stuff. And so listen,

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we're just going to do a run through very quickly and won't take much of your

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time. But let's talk about real quick. Where? Where from here? Where are we going

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from here? This is a post election podcast. This is a post a lot of dynamic going on

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podcast. We the news that's breaking around the world. You just absolutely cannot

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keep up with it right now in some strange turn of events. By the time you hear

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this podcast, I'm just reporting something to you today, moments ago, where the

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stock market has exploded. There's other stock markets in the world and those

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nations have exploded in light of the fallout of the election because people

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believe the economy is going to start picking up Americans. This makes sense.

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Let's be honest, Americans are going to actually start buying stuff right now

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for Christmas. Nobody was going to buy. I'm just talking about us. I told Lisa,

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we are going to have a very minimal Christmas gift buying season because of

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the inflation, because of the horrific economy in America. And all of a sudden,

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just with a Trump election the other day, within 24, it wasn't even 24 hours.

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The stock markets opened up on Wednesday morning through the roof and just so

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important. Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Because this type of change, even in

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Democrats. Now look, there's the rabid Republicans and there's the rabid Democrats.

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They're the fringe nut jobs. We don't even listen to that. The common

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Democrat, the common Republican are saying, wow, man, look at the economy.

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This is awesome for the nation. This is awesome for the middle class.

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This is awesome. Watch this. This is awesome for a big business because

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they're going to start buying land and they're going to start building

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warehouses. They're going to start building expanding their companies.

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And why is that important? Because it's great for the poor man.

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I've never worked for a poor man in my life. I've never had a poor man hire me.

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Neither have you. You've never gotten a job for a poor man.

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So the rhetoric of, oh, man, Trump just wants to bless the rich.

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Excuse me. I want the rich blessed because they build

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companies that my kids can work for. So let's just stop whining about that stupid

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rhetoric invented by some socialist Marxist. It's insane.

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When the economy does good, people start jobs.

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Middle class business drives America. Middle class, they own businesses

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and they hire more people than in DuPont and Boeing.

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When you put all the middle class businesses together, the small businesses of

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America, they dominate. And so this is really, really great news.

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On top of it, moments ago, ladies and gentlemen before this podcast broke,

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the Federal Reserve just dropped interest rates in light. They said

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in light of the Trump election, people are excited about that.

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What does that mean? That means, listen, it means that you're going to reach into

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your wallet and you're not only going to buy food for your kids.

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You just might buy a new TV set. You just might tithe more.

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You just might take a vacation. That's how it all works, ladies and gentlemen.

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And we're excited. But what do we do with it? Where do we go from here?

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Some things I want to both recap and prepare and promote.

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Number one, where have we come from? In recent years, you must admit,

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life has been on a fast-track dynamic. Sometimes we thought it was on a

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dynamic to insanity. And I do believe, by the way,

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when we look back at the COVID years, I've got to tell you, my friend,

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and I'm not just saying this because I'm a Christian.

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I'm not saying this because I'm an American. I'm not saying this because I'm a pastor.

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The COVID, the COVID drama,

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as a believer, I never lost hope during the COVID drama.

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Because I've read my Bible. I knew my Bible. I know my Bible.

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And Jesus said there'd be days like this. He didn't say COVID's coming to you.

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He said there's going to be a time of pestilence that sicknesses and diseases.

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He said there's going to be a time coming before I return of wars and rumors of wars.

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So the great thing is the COVID dynamic, what effect did it have?

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It radically affected the professing church and the professing Christian.

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I had a lot of effect in all kinds of ways and pharmaceuticals in the vaccine or not.

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Is it safe, Ivermectin, you know, all the whatever. I want to talk to you about the church side

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of it. COVID, Satan may have thrown it at us, but God used it for good.

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And the church was shaken. And listen, people who were churches and pastors who were living on

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the edge of the church and the world, they fell off. We just saw churches and Christians, Christians,

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air quotes fall off into oblivion when COVID hit because they weren't rooted and grounded in

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the Word of God. And we saw pastors, ministers just cave in and give up.

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The church was shaken and what remained was good. Number two, what followed after that?

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The race baiting and the race card that came out of the, what's his name?

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I'm sorry, I'm forgetting. Yeah, George Floyd stuff. The Eric Chauvin is at the other guy's name,

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the officer, all of that dynamic. I think that's what his name was, doesn't matter. Here's the point

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was, again, another tragic thing that was catapulted and trafficked and pimped by the media and

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blown up into something that would create riots and then intimidation. And what happened?

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The church was shaken and some pastors turned their screens on their phone, black.

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I know some of them. I mean, I know of them. I'm happy to report. I don't know them anymore.

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But they blacked out their screens and then when they decided to open up their churches,

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their first sermon was, I'm sorry, I'm black. I mean, I'm sorry, I'm white. I'm sorry, I confess,

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you know, I'm so white and we've been white and they should have stayed closed. And those churches

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and pastors just sailed off into oblivion. God's still shaking the church. What's real and what's

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not? God knows we don't. So when he shakes the church, things fall off. A couple of days ago,

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I was up in Central California and I was actually walking through a little portion of a 4,000 acre

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olive or I should say almond. Sorry, it was almond orchard. They had just finished harvesting

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the almonds in California here. And I was walking through the orchard and one tree had one

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almond on it because I'm not sure if you knew this. I didn't know this,

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but my daughter lives up there and her house is in this property. And when the harvesters come,

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did you know that these machines grab a hold of the tree? And they shake the tree like this.

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She said the ground shakes. She said you could fill it in the house. The ground is shaking from

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this machine that reaches out and grabs this tree and grabs this tree and then shakes them.

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And all of the almonds go falling to the ground. That's how they harvest almonds in California anyway

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and a mass scale. By the way, California is the almond producing capital of America for that matter

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of the entire North American continent. And so the shaking caused the almonds to fall.

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And in like manner, God is shaking the church and in this case, what falls is not good.

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And COVID was a shaking. BLM was a shaking. How would the church handle COVID? How would the pastor

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handle COVID? How would the church handle BLM and racism? How will that pastor of that church handle BLM

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and racism? And you know how your church handled it. To what degree did your pastor say, listen,

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everybody, I know this is going to sound uncomfortable, but we will not jump to conclusions. We are

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going to stick to the Word of God. The Bible warns us not to be a fool and come to quick judgment.

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So we are going to wait to see how this goes. We know this. We're not racist. Jesus is not a racist.

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And racism is from Satan. Wouldn't have been great if all those woke churches and all this

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rotten media in America would have said, you know what, this comes from Satan. Or they could have

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had pastors like me on their news broadcast saying, where does racism come from? Instead,

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they immediately pivoted that it comes from these statues that we've got up across America.

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Take down Christopher Columbus or racist. All these ridiculously dumb actions by a bunch of

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buffoons. Our nation suffered under a bunch of lunatic leaders of which California

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breeds them. We breed loonies in Sacramento and then send them out into the world.

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One was even running for president and thank God California politician failed to win the presidency.

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Boy, yikes. Crazy, crazy stuff. Need your reaction. Close the, listen to this. Watch, seriously,

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I'm not joking. Gavin Newsom. Close the, close the beaches. Close the churches.

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Close everything except strip clubs. Gotta keep the strip clubs open and keep the pot stores open.

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Gotta have that. Close, close down the, the pizzeria shook no church gatherings.

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Close the beaches. I'm not kidding. The guy closed beaches. Doctors were telling us,

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go outside in the sun. Breathe the sun. Breathe air that has been exposed to UV light by the sun.

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Breathe it into your lungs and exhale it through your nose. Let the sun hit you on the back of

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your neck for 15 minutes and you'll do so much better during this COVID season. Gavin Newsom says,

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no, stay indoors and close the beaches. But don't worry everybody. Every liquor store can be open

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and when you get drunk, you can go to the strip club. It's all good.

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And pastor said, yeah, yeah, listen, listen to, listen, listen to the authorities. Romans 13.

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We have to close our churches. I've come to the conclusion. Those pastors wanted a vacation.

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They wanted to close the church. But they're gone now. Most of them. Third test that shook the church.

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Still is October 7, 2023. Israel is invaded by Hamas.

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And the church began to waffle on its commitment to Israel and the Jew, which were commanded to be

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committed to Genesis chapter 12. I'll pastor. Our church doesn't read the Old Testament. Our pastor

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doesn't teach on it. Then you don't then you don't attend a New Testament church.

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How dare you say that? Oh, it's so easy. I'll say it again. If you are not studying the Old

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Testament and reading it, then you don't even know if the New Testament's true. And let me ask you

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this question. The first century church, right? God's kickoff of his church, where the Holy Spirit

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came down from heaven and possessed the believers was the first century church. Tell me what,

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what New Testament book did they study and preach on when the church was born on the day of

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Pentecost? Did they study the book of Romans? Paul hadn't been saved yet, had not been written.

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They studied John's gospel, hadn't been written yet. Are you hearing me? The New Testament church

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only had the Old Testament. That's what they preached Christ from the Old Testament. But churches

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who didn't believe or teach the Old Testament, they crumbled under this dynamic of Israel

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and it being at war and the replacement theology clowns violated the word of God and insulted God.

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And they're just beginning now. Nobody's listening to them anymore, nor should they be listened to.

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And then what about this one? And this is where we'll wrap it up. What about this one?

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The election. I got more pushback from so-called Christians than I did from the freedom from

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religion foundation who've threatened to sue us. I got more pushback from so-called Christians

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and pastors. You can't get involved in politics. It's no longer politics when the politicians

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are talking about abortion. I'm going to repeat that. It's no longer politics nor is it political

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when politicians make abortion an issue in their campaign.

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They've invaded a place of sanctity that's reserved only for God and His people.

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The reason why they did is because they knew the church would be so fearful, so timid and so weak.

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They knew that already because when they saw the church fail during COVID

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and stumble from one blunder to the next of cultural events that were shaking our nation and the church

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was irrelevant. Pastors who did not stand and speak up for the truth, they became irrelevant

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and they're irrelevant still. Listen, for example, I'm not going to name you. I'm not going to

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call out your name. I'm going to spare you right now. But there are pastors who closed their churches

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down and said, we're not going to reopen for a year. I mean, Fauci didn't even have that information,

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but apparently you did and you closed your church down for a year? You said so. We're not going to

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open up for a whole year because of COVID. Wow. Newsflash, you never had the authority to say that

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or do that because it ain't your church. It's Jesus' church, but you did it anyway.

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And in my opinion, you proved yourself to be an idol shepherd that's warned about in scripture.

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There are looked and notice your sermons or notice the sermons of your pastor who took that

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position. Notice how he's defending now almost every Sunday. You hear him mention some form of

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statement that defends his woke position. I'm not a prophet, but I predict their eventual inevitable

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demise. And that's a good thing because God is shaking everything to see what's real. And so

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when the Christian was told to stand down in this election, you know what we did? We did what we've

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always done. It's so funny guys. I got to tell you, when we were just a little home Bible study,

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we still did. We still did voter guides as a home Bible study. That was 35 years ago.

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Did it every election got involved? Interviewed candidates. Should we endorse those who

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stand for a biblical worldview? Even the atheist. Are you running for mayor? Yes. Are you an

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atheist? I am fine. It's America. You can be an atheist. Where are you on abortion? Yeah.

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Abortion is a little extreme in my book. I thought you said you're an atheist. I am an atheist,

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but I don't think you should kill babies. All right. We're going to let your statement be known

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to the entire church. And we did that. And so the atheist gets elected, but he's pro-life.

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We're good before God. Because you know what? When we vote for people, we're not voting for a pastor.

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We're not voting for a pope. We're not voting for a priest. When we vote, we're voting in the

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political realm, someone who's closest to a biblical worldview value. And when we began to

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experience success in this area, and from about 2014 on, we were seeing successes from schoolboard

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to other races, including state assembly and U.S. Congress, seats in California, elections in

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California, we began to get noticed by the Democrat National Party. They didn't like what we're

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doing. We began to get noticed by the California Democrat Party. We began to get noticed by media.

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We began to be noticed by pastors who said, can you just like not talk about this? Can you like be

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quiet? You shouldn't be doing this. I preached the gospel pastor. You should do the same. I find

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that hilarious because they were assuming we didn't preach the gospel also. And I found it kind of

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funny for a pastor to criticize us. You should preach the gospel. And he's got 50 people in his

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church, and we've got 10,000 plus people in our church. How do you think so many people have come

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to our church all this time? His church all this time. Because after we preach the gospel, we make

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disciples. The Bible is really big. It's bigger than John 316. That's where you start. And when you

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make disciples, guess what? They have to go to the water cooler and Monday at the company. They

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got to deal with conversations at lunchtime. They live in the world where pastors don't live. They

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live on the front lines. Public school teachers, pastors have got it easy compared to a public

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school teacher who knows the Lord. And yet it's his job to prepare him to prepare her for that moment.

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So when we did this and that began to replicate all over the state of California and then Arizona

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and then Oregon and other states in Virginia and everything like that. And pastors like

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minded who let the Bible rule and random their hearts began to talk and coalitions were formed.

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And well, we have the post, we have the post election results that we have.

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And all the while we honored God, we didn't get political. We were not about to surrender

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to the woke demonic ideology. So what do you do when you're losing? You label people.

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And so we were all labeled Christian nationalists. The moment I first heard that term, I first

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of all asked, does that mean pastors are getting involved? That's what I thought it meant.

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Pastor Jack, did you read this article on Christian nationalists? I thought, oh my gosh,

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that's awesome. Christians are getting involved in the dialogue of the nation and what's going on

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with policy? Silly me. How naive could I be? It was a label being placed on people like me

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because they didn't want us to succeed when we said vote for him, vote for her, she's pro-life.

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So they labeled us as Christian nationalists. What a badge of honor that turned out to be.

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I'm really grateful for all the wokesters out there. You were really loud,

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but your arguments were really weak because theory, you know, listen, I don't know if you've

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ever studied a theory in school. But do you know what? Remember, after class or after theory, what

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followed after theory? What did you do with theory? If it was political theory, if it was a biology,

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if it was physics, if it was some form of philosophy, what did you do with it?

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You took it into the lab, remember? And you tested the theory.

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That's why, by the way, Darwinianism fails when you take it into the lab.

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You never, an evolutionist never goes to the lab to see if their theory, if their religion works.

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When you take a theory into the lab, you find out if it works or not, if it's true or not.

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And so when you take the theory and you test it in the lab, you find out if it's true or if it's false.

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And so what happened was a lot of people began to take into the lab as it were, what the Bible

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teaches. We are going to not just preach the gospel on Sundays, but we are going to encourage our

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people to go out and live it now and speak up for truth. They took what was in a sense theoretical,

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and they went out into the world on Monday and did it. They did Bible truth,

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and it convinced the minds of people. And those people rose up and they voted

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for sanity. They voted for what works. Some people even voted against their feelings because they

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knew that this would be better for the nation. And so the remarkable thing I want to leave this with

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you is Galatians chapter 6, verse 10, starting there. Therefore, as we have opportunity,

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let us do good to all, especially those who are of the household of faith.

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See with what large letters Paul writes that I've written to you in my own hand. I love that

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because he wanted them to understand. He says, as many as I desire to make or to have a good

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showing in the flesh, these would compel you to be circumcised only that they may not suffer

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persecution for the cross of Christ. Paul announces, do what's right, honor God in doing it,

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and don't be swayed by those who will attack you and say, you can't do this or you can't do that

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or you got to do it our way. Now bottom line, he said in everything that you do, you do it for good

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and you do it, especially for the household of faith. And then finally this,

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it's Ephesians 5 and it is verses 16, starts there by saying, redeeming the time because the days

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are evil. Therefore do not be unwise but understand what the will of the Lord is. And I'm trying

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trying to turn the page. And do not be drunk with wine in which there's dissipation. If you drink wine,

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you get a little effect, but then you eliminate it. Paul says, why waste your time with that?

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But rather be filled with the Holy Spirit. And so I want to leave you with this. Do all that

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you do to the glory of God. Make sure that what you do is done by the Spirit of God. Every opportunity

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you have, do the right thing that honors God. Don't do the thing you feel. Listen, I'm wrapping this

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up. Don't do what you feel. I know I'm flying in the face of a lot of emotionally based theology,

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but it's theory. It doesn't work. Well, I feel, I feel that I should do this. Stop it.

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Take your feeling and judge it against the Bible and then do what the Bible says. And cause your

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feelings to become subject to what the Word of God says, the Bible. And you will succeed.

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So I just wanted to leave that with you guys. I know it's strong medicine for some who find

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themselves today on the wrong side of the fence. Like, for example, the evangelicals for Harris.

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For those who told pastors to be quiet. For those who said, we shouldn't vote.

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Yeah, you missed it. You missed out. You took your opportunity and you buried it. Now you got a

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lot of repenting to do. I would imagine asking God to forgive you for taking the opportunity. He

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gave you and you buried it in the ground. That's okay. Listen, you can repent. God will forgive

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you. Just don't do it again. Obey him and not yourself. It's obvious that we believe it's time

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for us to live out what we believe in. It's time for us to live real life. And that's what we're

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doing here. Thank you guys. God bless you. If you've enjoyed this or any one of our podcasts,

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