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So, like, if you guys take anything from me when it comes to advertising stuff, demonstration,

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demonstration, and the third rule is demonstration, like, you describing something with your words

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is so much less powerful than just showing it. And so, if he says, hey, I'm going to talk about

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this guy, like, click in, share screen, pull the guy up, show the group. It's such a visual

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platform anyways. You're demonstrating the actual thing. I mean, AI Jack, if you've seen that,

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I'll think like, I think a big reason why he gets a huge amount over is because of the demonstration

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that he's doing by doing the share screen. Let's rip. Why don't you tell everybody real quick,

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what's the group give it a give it a give it a 60 second. Who do you help? How do you help them?

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So, we basically run Alma Locke's community. It's a self-improvement spirituality community

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around helping people make minds at shifts so they can work better towards their goals essentially.

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It's like a more practical approach to like manifestation. Are you personal development?

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Yeah, we're in the self category. Okay, cool. We're actually ranked number one all time

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and we're creeping in at the current school games below. It must be nice. It must be nice.

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But yeah, so is there anything you want me to expand on before we jump in?

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Well, let's start with, so what are the features of the offer?

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So the features of the offer are essentially weekly coaching calls with the creator. We have the

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community itself. Then we have courses. Alex, we actually had four points that we thought would

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be interesting to touch on, but maybe I can run them by you. Go for it. The four second notes.

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Awesome. The four areas that we want to touch on are churn. We've got our churn down to 16 to 18

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percent, but we want to get it down to even the low teens, so we wanted to see what we could do there.

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The second one was audience conversion rate. Our creator has around 450k on YouTube,

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and we've done some things that have worked pretty well to convert viewers into leads and

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leads into purchases, but we wanted to see what else we could do. Third was ascension.

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This month, actually, we ran a one-time kind of accelerator, or as Calvin, where Hollywood calls

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an project community. It did about 22k, but that's like a one-time thing, and so we were looking for

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ways to get more recurring revenue on the ascension side. And the number four was how to create

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urgency for people to buy when there is no promotion, or like this count, or the one's going on,

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essentially. Yeah. I'm going to answer that fourth question first, and then we'll dive into

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the way that I would normally approach this. So this goes for everybody. I don't know if you know

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this, but inside of this lovely book, the last chapter is on naming. And inside of the naming,

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we talk about having rotating seasonal, basically deadlines. It actually might be in the urgency

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chapter. But basically, I like to think about things as a fraternity party planner. So

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that means that every month, there's always a reason, right? And so my buddy got his wisdom teeth

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taken out, therefore we should drink. So that's what fraternity party planners. They're like,

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oh, I guess we shouldn't party tonight, because I guess there's nothing special. There's always

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something special. It's someone's birthday. It's the businesses anniversary. It's the founders

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milestone for something he did, you know, a year earlier when he started his YouTube channel.

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It's a milestone for how many people he hit on his subscriber base. It's the first of spring.

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It's Easter. It's Halloween. It's go back to school. It's new year new me. Like there's always a reason

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that you can come up with in order to justify giving people some sort of incentive to take the

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next action. All right. That being said, I like big picture from a continuous basis.

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As much as I just explained that whole thing, do you want to think it matters? No.

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So like whenever you have some of these kind of like deadlines, in my opinion, a lot of what you do

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is you just pull forward demand. So people who would have probably otherwise bought in a month just

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but by now. And so does it necessary? Like there is this very famous case study in the US with

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GMC, which is big car manufacturer here. And there was a while some of the older people who

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were listening to this might remember this, where they ran this thing called the employee discount,

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which is basically they sold cars at the same price to the public as they do to their employees.

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And it was like the biggest success of like of all time, comma. And then they realized that all

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they did was as soon as they stopped running it and they looked at the next four months,

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their sales offset. And they just pulled forward four months of sales basically. And so they're like,

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okay, well, that didn't work and they no longer run that promotion. Right. And so again, I think

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in a local marketplace, sometimes it's helpful to have it as a little bit of a rapper for like

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wire advertising, something in a paid ads perspective. But since you guys are organic,

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for the most part, the platforms are generally are bringing in new demand on a regular basis.

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And so simply making the offer available to a new audience will typically be good enough.

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And then on the return audience, it's just reminding them. It's reminding them to exist,

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reminding them that this offer exists and not kind of shying away from it. I think like taking

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your CTA seriously, but not too seriously, I think it's the goal. So sometimes I you've probably

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seen these YouTube channels. I like two minute long CTAs. It's like, dude, this is too much like

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this is going to kill the video on the flip side. If you barely say anything about it at all,

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it's like it doesn't they don't think you're taking it seriously, so they don't take it seriously.

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So I think it's being like very purposeful, like 15 seconds and I'm going to really explain

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what this is. You should check, you know, go do it. 15 to 30 would be my max for the CTAs that are

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in video. All right. So that's the urgency piece. Let's start from the way I would normally do this,

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which is where customers coming from. It's YouTube. So let's pull that up. So he's doing a video every

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two or three days. Great. Okay. So he's got some volume. Do you know how he's picking his topics?

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He's been doing this for a while and we've worked with him, but he's been doing the YouTube file

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longer than we have. Yeah. So not too much. He kind of just sees what's working in the space

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and then adds his own kind of twist to it. His own spin. I would recommend the seat. So I mean,

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that's obviously he's not on the call. So I won't spend too much time on this because you don't have,

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you know, as much control over it. Can you just click into one of those videos just so I can

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so I can look at the actual video itself. Click in. I'm just going to look for CTAs. Pause real quick.

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Okay. So right above the fold. So that's good. Let's see. Does he have first comment?

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Scroll down. Okay. So opportunity there is that you should own the first comment because you'll

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probably change the description on a regular basis. So it's kind of tactic number one. First

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comment. Let's make sure that we have that. And if you're first comment and you're the person,

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then you almost always get voted. So you can do that where you can pin it. Either of those

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would work and you will get clicks from it. So I can promise you that. Okay. So that's number one.

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I'll get my book in Amazon, connect with me on Instagram. I'll describe her. Okay. That's fine.

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Do you know where the CTAs normally are? Usually the first link in the description. Oh no,

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no, in video. Oh, in the CTAs. He sometimes embeds them. So if he's making a point, he'll make a

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point about someone in the community and he'll kind of reflect it back to that. So I would recommend

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because I didn't see it when he just when Kirby just went through that. But I think it would be

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massive for you guys. And this goes for everyone if you're doing any kind of video content is

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demonstration. So like if you guys take anything for me when it comes to advertising stuff, demonstration,

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demonstration, and the third rule is demonstration. Like you describing something with your words is

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so much less powerful than just showing it. And so if he says, Hey, I'm going to talk about this guy.

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Like click in, share screen, pull the guy up, show the group. Like it's such it's such a visual

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platform. Anyways, you demonstrating the actual thing. I mean, AI Jack, if you've seen that, I'll

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think like I think a big reason why he gets a huge amount over is because of the demonstration that

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he's doing by doing the share screens. So that's that's number three. Okay. I'm not going to talk

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more about it besides make sure that it's in the first third because you're just going to get

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probably double as many people who are going to see these CTA versus putting it kind of near the end.

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So share screen demonstration. All right. So now everyone clicks over. So let's let's let's

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follow the click path. And Alex, I should say that right now we're testing sending people straight

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to the about page, but usually it's not usually it's to a lead magnet. Okay. That's a topic that we

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wanted to hit on as well because I mean, sending straight to about is you doing what we do because

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we do have it on emails as well. Second about people. Uh huh. Uh huh. And maybe school will have

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something like that coming in the future. It might. I don't know. I don't know. We, you know,

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your guest is as good as mine. Uh huh. He'll be able to game for us. He's actually probably not as

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good as mine. Let's let's watch this thing. It's we we watch it two acts. It'll take us. Uh it'll

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take us two and a few minutes and I think it's worth it. You may be asking yourself this question.

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Why am I so far behind? Why are there so many people out there that are making millions of dollars

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and I'm working this nine to five job? Is there something that I don't know that they know?

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And the answer to that is yes, there are things that they know that you don't know, but that's why

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you've been led to this community. I know the secret. I've mastered the art of focus, present

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moment awareness and knowing that I'm living in a simulation. And that's exactly what I'm going to

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teach you within this community. And you may be asking yourself why learn from me? Why join my

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community? I am a direct descendant of one of Neville Goddard's VIP students, which is my grandfather.

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Albert O. Locker Jr. And all of that stuff that Neville Goddard taught him taught me. And I've

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used that. I went from being in prison for eight and a half years to getting out under three years.

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I manifested nearly a half a million subscribers on my YouTube channel. Manifested two super cars,

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a super truck, a beautiful house, the physique of my dreams. I'm super healthy. I can manifest whatever

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I want to come in my life simply by using these techniques. And this is what I want to teach you.

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And I don't want you to completely rely on my success. We have this. We need to double proof of

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this. A proof of how my techniques work. I want you to go off of the members and the people that

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I've coached at the success rate within my community. Right now, my community's been open for three

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months now. 93.7% of the members within my community right now that are actively doing the work,

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following the courses, doing everything that they're supposed to be doing with my community. 93.7%

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of them are seeing gains in their life. They're going to the next level. They're manifesting

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a entirely new life and a high percentage of that. Ninety percent have life changing transformations

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within three months of joining this community. And with all of that success within the community,

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I am so confident, so confident that you will see success within my community that I'm willing

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to offer you a five day money back guarantee. If you sign up and you just don't like it for any

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reason, you get your money back. That's how confident I am that you're going to enjoy that you're going

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to like it. You're going to transform your life through these methods through these techniques and

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through my community. But that's not all. Okay. I'm going to now walk you through the systems we

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have in place within the community, the entire community, but then you can decide for yourself. This

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is really a no-brainer. First of all, you get three live calls with me every single week. I'm doing

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presentations, I'm covering different books, and I'm breaking all this down. And I'm doing a Q&amp;A

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every single Friday to answer your questions. And also within the classroom, we have designed a course

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that's specific that breaks each and every element down of how to change your mindset and the

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exercises and the routines that you need to do to break free from the matrix to learn how to

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control the simulation with your imagination. And on top of all of that, you have access to the

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sleep meditations, the morning meditations that have all the brainwaves, which is alpha, theta,

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and delta that are put together by me, designed specifically by me to impress your subconscious mind.

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So once you get all of that master down, then you can move on to the next level. And that next level

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is a Zoom mastermind with me that you get every single month. Once you unlock your potential to a certain

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point with the courses and your interactions within the community, and you also have access to all

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of my exclusive content like all the live recordings that I've done and you can go back and you can

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watch all of these live calls that I've done. And I answer so many questions and I go over so

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many different presentations, everything that Neville got her taught my grandfather, everything that I

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know and how to manifest and all the questions that I've answered, they're all there available for

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you. Everything is recorded. One more thing that I don't want to leave out is the community itself,

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which is about a thousand members and we're all on the same team. We're all holding each other

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accountable. We're all giving each other reminders and posting our testimonials of everything that

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we're manifesting, which can be truly, truly helpful where you don't have access to this anywhere else,

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but my community. And it's absolutely just amazing to see the progress that's growing within this

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community and how everyone is implementing the courses and everything that I put together with the

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live calls and assisting everyone with these processes changing their mindset and just the progress

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that they're having seen that and the accountability part of it is priceless. And just to add some fun

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and excitement within the community, we do giveaways. Last month, we did a thousand dollar giveaway

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to an individual member that's picked at random. Also, a one-on-one call with me for another member

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and also a customized sleep meditation design specifically for that person. You know, we just

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get this stuff away from the community. Just to make it more fun and exciting for the actual

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community, for the growth and just the engagement within everything. It's so much fun. I love you guys

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and I will see you inside. So a couple things. Number one, success rate is very broad. Like, I don't

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know what it means. And so I think that if you were to define that a little bit clearer, it would probably

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do a little better. The second thing is I would want to make sure that the guarantee is described

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in a better way. And so I would probably copy word for word, the script that's right here inside

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of the offers book that I have for a satisfaction guarantee, which is like I'm and to be clear,

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I'm not asking you to say, you know, yes or no today. I'm just asking you make a fully informed

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decision. That's it. And the only way you can do that is by doing it on the inside, not the outside.

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So get on the inside. And if you see if everything's the what we say right now, it's true and

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it's valuable to you. Then if it is, then that's when you decided to keep it. If not, no hard feelings.

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You will then after, you know, clicking the link and falling through, be able to make a fully

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informed decision if this isn't for you. But you can make this decision right now for the same

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reason that you don't buy a house without first looking inside of it. And just know this, whether

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it's five minutes from now or five days from now, if you're not happy, we're not happy. Right.

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And so for any reason whatsoever, you want your money back, you can get it back because I don't

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even keep your money if you're happy. Right. He can put his manifestation stuff on top of that.

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All you have to do is just go to XYZ or just message me and just say, hey, give me a money back

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or I'm good. I want to leave. And you got it. And in short order, you know, we'll send it right

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back to you. And we can only make that kind of guarantee because we're confident that what we have

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is the real deal. And I'm fairly confident when you sign up, you're going to get exactly what you

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need to insert benefit. But the thing is is we want to position like what makes a guarantee

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stronger is positioning it like a trial. So I would include that. There's two more things that I think

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are missing or could potentially enhance this. In my opinion, it's a little too blind bullet.

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And so if you're listening, you're like, what does that even mean? It's like, I failed to get

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the meat. Like I want to have, I want to have a belief broken. And as of right now, that doesn't,

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so and the belief breaking is say what they believe, say why it's wrong, say what's right,

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provide proof. Right. And that's the four step framework for just kind of breaking two or three

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beliefs that he can do. He mentions pain at the beginning, but not like the belief that potentially

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led to that pain. I, you know, you know, my beliefs on manifestation. So I'll just, I'll keep this

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purely to the marketing. But I would want to have a little bit more meat there so that I have

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something to kind of hold on to. And then the last thing is there's a lot of featuring features,

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but I would love to hear like what the benefit of that feature is for each of those things.

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So it's like I do three calls a week. It's like so that you won't get stuck. And if you have questions

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about your specific circumstance, we can actually just tailor it to you in real time.

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designed to be self-study so that you can do your own pace. If you're somebody who's like, I want

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to go all in, I want to zoom really fast, you can do that. But if you're somebody who's like,

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you're working nine to five and you just have an hour a day or 30 minutes a day or 30 minutes a week

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even, you can do it. And you won't feel like you're getting behind, right. And so that way,

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we do that way, people seem to like it, right. And so it's just like we just want to translate those

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things to make it more compelling so that they know why, why this even matters, right. Okay,

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so that's that's the VSL. Let's pull the let's pull the the page up and we'll talk about the

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lead mega thing too in a second. So there's two videos. Okay, I don't want to watch the second one,

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but let me just see what it is. Okay, let's do the next click over. I'm guessing is that other

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video just proof. Yeah. Okay, got it. Okay, got it. claim these bonuses if you join before for

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31st. Is it a leap year this year? There's definitely no February 31st ever. Okay, that's the

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typo. Yeah, okay. One of my coaching with a head coach, ongoing 101 DM support,

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welcome to the world. This is simulation. I wanted to subscribe to become the person you truly

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want using techniques. Okay, same mindset stuff. Okay, here's what you get. I don't know anything

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about this guy, Neville Goddard. So maybe people who are coming know who this guy is, but I have no

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idea. I will say that we've tested this quite a lot. What has made much more impact on the page

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has been the marketing itself. And everyone we send to this page is like knows heavy about

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Neville Goddard. All right, so like our traffic that comes from school. Yeah, we ranked on the

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discovery. He doesn't convert very well at all, but the traffic that we send converts at a high

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clip. Yeah, understood. So I'll say this. So I make all marketing. And this is just a rule for

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everybody. I make marketing as though no one knows anything because if it can convert cold,

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it'll convert warm. But if you can only convert warm, it won't convert cold subset super set.

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Does that make sense? And so I always structure it that way. And I think this is actually a big

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mistake that a lot of especially organic creators make is they treat every video like they're talking

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to their audience, but the whole point of the video is to reach new audience. So we have to not

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make it feel like it's an inside joke. We want people who on the outside so they can as quickly as

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possible understand what's going on so they can make a person's decision. Just big picture. All

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right. So I'm not going to spend too much more time to like I can I could work on the about page,

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but I'm guessing once you show me the other funnel that you guys are sending your traffic to

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because the links that we're sending to school, though, are you just right there? Yeah, right now we're

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testing it. Yeah. Okay, got it. Well, then once you show me the other funnel and what metrics do

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you have right now behind the scenes for the conversion? So that's the dashboard. Okay, two,

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three version conversion. Okay, nothing really pops out. Obviously the I think our average

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right now is 4%, so it's a little bit lower, but I think it's because we're just talking about

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we just you're not you're not getting the benefit of all the school traffic because it's not meant

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to end like that's one of the biggest benefits of being on schools that we send you traffic to.

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Neville Goddard. How can I explain who this guy is in three sentences for everybody else?

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This guy is my grandfather and then you're going to learn lessons that he learned from somebody

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yet. It's like it's it's very like two, three steps removed and so we need to make sure it's

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rock solid. Make sure that we prioritize code. Okay, so right now is all the conversion being done

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on the page or is there calls or what? No, right now it's on the page and then the funnel that I think

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Jacob can pull up and show you is a lead magnet to then like either a webinar which we ran

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two weeks ago and that was super successful and then email nurturing from there or we before we were

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giving a kind of PDF lead magnet. Do you push for annual on the webinar? No. Yeah, I would push

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for annual if you guys are going to do webinars. I do think that doing the webinar is a good idea

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and so I would repeat that. So if you ran a web like if you guys do a webinar once a month or

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every other week, I think that would be a good idea. Okay, and can I also go now because yeah,

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that's a big question that we had. So we did run the webinar. It went really well.

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We got a ton of new leads. We got a ton of sales. But the question is is how do we repeat that?

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the end like on organic. How do you structure a webinar? So basically so you can't do the same

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webinar. So what you would do is it probably be like 80, 20 in terms of the structure. So the first

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80 is going to be more or less that's going to be the content and then you're just going to have

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your CTA at the end. I talked about this with people with free communities. Run your weekly webinar

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where you teach something that's valuable, whatever and then you make your soft toss to the paid side.

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you can't really repeat that unless you're going to new traffic. Now I will say this,

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his YouTube channel is bringing in new traffic all the time. And so you could conceivably just run

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only to people who are opted in in the last 14 days and have a much smaller webinar.

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would be more like content driven soft CTA. The other one is just the the RAM rod. It's the thing

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that you know converts. And how do you frame that on the YouTube itself? Because surely everyone is

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seeing that sort of pitch to the webinar. Hey, if you're brand new here, I've got an onboarding

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webinar that I can take you through that'll give you all the fundamentals and get you up to speed.

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So if you don't know who never got it is, you don't know who this is, you don't know what this is,

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you don't know what this is. I can get you up to speed in the fastest way possible. And I'll be

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live with you. And if you've had been around and you've been like, ah, you've been on the fence,

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you've been like, you know, you've been lurking thing. Get over there, you know, get over to the

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community. And you know, we'd love to see you. And here's a free gift, which is a lead magnet.

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So that's the funnel we were running. Okay. So what was the convert like how many people showed up?

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from people who landed on the page. A thousand unique viewers on the webinar. And then 500 made

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it to the pitch and we converted a hundred out of them. So a hundred out of a thousand who started.

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Yeah. You got ten percent. Okay.

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Ten percent. Live on the webinar. And then I will say we sold 40 after in the follow-up sequence.

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So 140. Okay. That sounds, that sounds, that sounds a little lower than you'd want given the

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price point. So I would have expected the fact that it's warm audience and $60 as a price point.

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with follow-up. I do think that you guys should just basically go for go for the annual. And your

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turn is 18. So call it, you know, five times monthly. So it's 59, right? Yeah. So 60 bucks times

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five. So $300. I think they make the annual 300 or more. So 300 or 400, 399, whatever.

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webinar. I'll certainly like it more if it gets paid, you know, a bunch up front. Because if you

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had a hundred and they all paid 400, make 40 grand, I feel like he'd be like, that was fun. We

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should do that again, right? Yeah. Right. So I think that obviously churn on annuals is going to be

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significantly lower. Yeah. Usually we would have wanted to push to annual, but there's a few reasons

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why we're not actually pushing annual at the moment. Right. He kind of didn't want to at the time

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when annual came out to do annual. I don't know if it was a commitment thing or if he was worried

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about the long time prospects, it was earlier when we started working together. Yeah. And then the idea

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kind of slipped through the cracks, but we're working on it now. I think you should for sure do it.

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and just add in, add in one or two key bonuses that only people who are a year long people get.

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that you've had, like if I were trying to sell this, I would say something to the degree of,

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you've probably been wishy washy for a lot of stuff in your life. You haven't been able to

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commit. You've been on the fence, right? Like I think maybe the reason that you're on this call

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today is because you haven't been able to pull the trigger. And so maybe the first step towards

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living the life that you want to live is taking action, right? It's actually making commitment and

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saying, I'm actually going to change my ear. And I don't need to wait till January to change my

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life and just waste the rest of this year. Is that what you're going to do? You're going to waste the

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next 10 months because it's not January 1st, right? Next nine months in the state months. Of course

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not. You can start now. You can change your life in a second, right? And I would demonstrate it by

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saying, like, listen, who here believes that you can change your life in an instant? Some of you

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guys don't believe me. I'll prove it to you. Right now, go drink a bottle of Johnny Walker,

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right? Get in your car and drive. You absolutely can change your life in an instant. And so the thing

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is is you believe the negative, but you don't believe the positive. This is if I wanted to pretend to be

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woo-woo, right? Which I'm not. But if I wanted to pretend to be this aside solid, right? The positive

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is just as believable. It's just that you plant the seeds now and then the tree grows later. You can

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cut a tree down much faster. You can grow it. And the best data planetary was 20 years ago. Second

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best days right now. So that's probably how to position getting people to commit and get a

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people to sec action. Okay. So annual plus bonus, you're doing that. That'll help cash flow.

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I'm guessing you guys aren't thinking of doing ads yet, correct? No. We want to kind of master

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this. That's good. Yeah. Master this. I think it's a good idea. Okay. So let's scroll back to

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conversion. So from a conversion perspective, the webinars, the primary conversion vehicle you have,

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and then you obviously have the page there. The two and change percent, I think the changes to the

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webinar, the the VSL would be the things. I think the way you position the guarantee, the way

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outlined, those things would be helpful, putting more meat in it, making it position like a trial,

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explaining more about the success rate, adding benefits to each of the features so that people

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understand what this is even about because it's very vague. Like a lot of the words are right, but

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there's it's like it has the framework of a VSL, but it doesn't have the thing about like a Christmas

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tree where you hang ornaments. It has the it has the structure. It just doesn't have the ornaments

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on it. All right. So we talked about the urgency thing. We talked about traffic. So you want to

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talk about conversion, sorry, sorry, ascension? Yeah, ascension and term would be great. The other

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two topics. All right. So then what so what ascension, where are we talking about ascension wise?

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So I'll I'll show you what we've done so far up to this point. So we have this community,

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which is the main community. Yeah. And then essentially, and this is the 60 bucks. And what we did

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was to do a one time, like a 30 day sort of challenge, like an accelerator, if you will,

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where people get more attention, kind of more intimate community with more intimate lives, more

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support, et cetera. And this was a 300 of a 300 one time payment. So we kind of used the one time

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payment feature. And this did 20 to 23k, I think, which was it was nice. But we want to we don't

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know whether to go for a full like rolling community and do that at a higher price point. I've

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already got this. I've already got it. Make this the benefit that people get for doing annual

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subscription. So when you sign up for the annual, the first thing we're going to do is run

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you through a 30 day self challenge. And this is an entirely custom program. Let me show you the

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proof. People bought this for 300 dollars. They bought it. It's done. Look at all this proof.

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I'm going to give it to you for free. Just want to become a member because I want you to succeed

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long term. Savage, right? Cool. Yeah, that's super. So that's a cool bonus. But what I'm thinking is

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for just essentially in general, because like we have like 1.1 closer, 1.2k members. And like,

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I feel like there's more LTV we could get out of these people. I don't really know what that

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looks like. Like we've tried one to one. But that's too much like time versus money for him. And

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he can't like charge enough to make it worth his his actual hourly rate. We kind of want to find

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the most efficient way of doing this because doing these launches every couple of months for a new 30

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days, other it is cool. But it's just a lot of dude. You want to have the you want to have that

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rotating promotional thing, the new 30 day accelerator. That's the new wrapper you put for every annual

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promotion and just go. You get that for free. Yeah. So listen guys, you got two options. You can

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just pay for the 30 days for 300 dollars or you can pay 300 dollars for the year and get it for free

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and get everything else. It's up to you. Yeah. Of course, everyone's going to take the annual.

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Yeah. So they get a free invite basically to this community. Yeah. And then in terms of

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converting more monthly, we should just try to up them to annual then. Yeah. I mean, you should

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try to up everybody to annual. I mean, annual has lower term period. You'll get more committed

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people, etc, etc. You'll get cash flow in advance, which is helpful. But beyond that, the

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so there's there's okay. I want to make sure that I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm tracking. So the

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ascension you're talking about is just from these 30 day things that are one time into the membership,

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correct? No, other way. So the we have people in the membership and then we launched this 30 day

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challenge, essentially. And we basically promoted it to the current customers paying monthly,

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this new thing, and then 80 of them bought. Yeah. I think the play that I just outlined is the one

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that I'll convert on a regular basis. And then all you have to do now, this is the point that I

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was talking about with the the naming thing, right? Is that just wrap wrap it into a season.

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The structure of the challenge is going to be the same. Just wrap it into a different season. And

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I'll you seem skeptical. So I'm going to break the belief for everybody else who's on here. So

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in a gym, I marketed the same fish. I've same pond. Very tiny pond. What is my actual

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delivery going to be? You're going to stop eating shit and you're going to move. This is like this

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will not change. I have classes and I have meal plans. That's what I have. And so how do I make

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this sound new and interesting? And so for 30 days, basically, what we're going to talk about for the

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challenge or for the 28 day transformation, it's the same thing for weight loss, the same exception.

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All right. What we're doing is we're just putting a word in front of it. So it could be fall,

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it could be spring, it could be season, it could be the reason why, whatever it is.

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You know, if you know, if COVID had been going on to be like get out of that, you know,

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get out of the house, get into your head or whatever, like you just you just put a little

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ism in front of it. And then all you have to do is basically swap the first video or first

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onboarding thing. That makes it contextual to whatever the, you know, the promo was. And then

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everything else after that's still going to be like, you're going to have a meal plan and you're

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going to work out. Yeah, I guess I'm not skeptical. I guess I'm trying to track. I do that for

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everybody else to just you know, I was just doing it for everybody else too. I got you. I'm just

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trying to track the direct like because obviously we got people coming. I'm just trying to think

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about it logistically. How are we going to make this work? So people watch YouTube. They do the

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lead magnet or they go strictly about they buy them monthly or they buy the annual and get this

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as a bonus. The thing I'm trying to think of is, okay, let's say we have the monthly members

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and we tell them, look, we're launching this accelerator for the month of May. You can either pay

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300 bucks to get in or you can upgrade to annual. So I'm tracking with that. I guess where I'm,

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I'm not tracking is let's say you had a member who let's say bought the accelerator in February,

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but also wants to do it in May. Are you not going to lose out on the revenue for the people who

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wanted to do both? They want to do it in May. They want to the benefits is if I run a future

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challenge, you also get to participate in that for free. And so we could just try to use the

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challenges as as perpetual conversion, but you're like, how do I ascend? This is your conversion

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mechanism and you run an A B offer, 300 one time, 300 annual and you get everything else unlimited.

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It's a it's a decoy offer. So the ascension is annual annual basically just trying to send

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everything. Okay. I'm with you. All right. Sweet. Okay. So that's the ascension piece. You feel

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okay there? Okay. So that ascension thing also tackles churn to a large degree because if you

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got half of your group to, you know, to ascend, then your journal cut in here virtually. I think

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are you guys doing onboarding of any kind right now? Yes. So actually the biggest mover to our churn

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was doing one to one onboarding course. Okay. So we've hired someone to do 15 minutes on one to

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one onboarding. Great. Well, I think what would make sense there too is like with the with the 15

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minute onboarding, you can give them a script to sell the three or four hundred dollar annual,

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then they'll have a reason to do it and we'll get a commission. So that way you have multiple

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conversion mechanism. So you have one on the onboarding call, you also have that, you know, one that

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you're sporadically doing to the whole community. And you can say if you buy right now, you can get

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it for 300 if you buy it any other time it's 400. So that's our little incentive to get you go.

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I actually got the idea to do the one to one onboarding piece from you. It was probably one of these

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calls that I heard you talk about. It works. I'm just trying to think. So because basically our churn

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used to be like when we first came in and then took over the community, we didn't launch it,

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but we kind of took it over and churn was at like near 30%. We did a few things, like we pulled

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a few levers to get it down. We started actually moderating the community a lot more so it's much more

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high quality, much more like, you know, super good stuff in the actual community itself. We kind

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of frame the marketing a bit differently to bring in better quality people. So a little bit less

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woo in your words and a bit more pragmatic. So a bit more sort of action taking. That's obviously

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help. And then the one to one onboarding calls. Those have been the biggest levers. I'm just trying

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to think of anything else other than annual because obviously we will do that. Any other levers that

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we can pull within the business to help the challenge. I would try to get very clear on the problem

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that people are trying to solve. So one of the things, like the reason that I had like, it said

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success rate 93%. To me, I'm like, I don't know what that means. Like success or what? And so I think

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one of the one of the really nice things that I that I like that Jack does. I don't know if you guys

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watch that, but like he had people say like, what's the one automation you want to help with?

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Right. And I think asking people like, what's the one obstacle that you're dealing with? What's the

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belief that you want to have broken? Right. And I think that if you could use that,

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then we can take this very amorphous deliverable and make it more tangible. And if you want to get,

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if you want to cross over to the side of Hermosi in the world of pragmatism, you could even say,

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what are you doing that you want to stop doing? Or what do you want to start doing that you're not

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doing? That's it. Just very simple. What behavior do you want to change? It's either going to stop

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or it's going to start. You stop a bad thing. You start a good thing. And I think people got

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really concrete than what what happened is that you would frame the value of the community based on

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the value of changing that behavior permanently. That is a significantly more valuable thing than

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like the secrets of the past. Like if you tell someone I can help you quit smoking, the

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value of the community is relative to putting smoking to that person, which might be significantly

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more valuable. The more levels of translation someone has to do between the messaging and their

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problem, the lower your conversion is going to be because you're basically asking them to chew the

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food and digest it for them. When really you need to chew it, they're little baby birds and you've

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got to feed it right into their mouth, pre-tute. You need to do the thinking for them. So I think it's

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actually like you will be able to probably change less about your actual deliverable and change

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two core things. One is that you're very clear about the problem that they're trying to solve. And

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number two, the path that they need to follow to solve it. So on that onboarding call, I would say

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you're trying to quit smoking. That's amazing. So obviously we can't promise anything because we

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can't do it. You can. But what I can do is I can walk you through a path that'll help you kind of

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like, look, there's a ton of stuff in here and I don't want you to feel overwhelmed. I'm

431
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one reason people cancel. It's just do this. Just do this and then post when you're done.

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So I would have mentioned something about this. So the problem with our offer is that it's very

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general. And we've struggled to find that one thing because everyone's one thing is so super

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different to them. Some people use the teachings that we teach for cars, so they've used it for

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health, some of them for relationships. And we haven't been able to make a concrete offer based

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on one thing. And that's what we're really struggling with. Yeah, you need a metaphor. That's

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what I'm saying. There's no meat. Like it's it's a lot of ancient secrets, but like there's no

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there's no meat. There's no framework that this is based on. And so the way that I would think

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through this, this is why I'm a big behavior change guy, right? Which is that fundamentally there

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are things that you were doing that you don't like that you do. There are things that you want to

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start doing that you're not doing. And whether your goal is that you're trying to lose weight,

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whether you're trying to get the girl, whether you're trying to start a business,

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fundamentally, it's always going to blow down to what you're doing, right? Now if I wanted to go

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woo, woo, which I wouldn't, but if I did, then I would be like, all that starts between years.

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Like you literally cannot move your body without it starting in your brain. And so that's what we

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start. All right. Now that being said, this can be really amorphous. And so I want to make this

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very concrete when you when you when you apply or when you submit your your information, I want you

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to put down the thing that you want to start or stop. There's going to be two sides. And I'd like

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you to do both. And the reason for that is that you cannot start doing something without making

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room for it. And that's one of the number one reasons that people fail is that they try to add

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something to an article plate. It doesn't work. So we have to take something out in order to put

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in the types of behaviors that you want. And so we have to have both. It's almost like this is

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compelling. That's because I don't do manifestation. I'm saying this with love. All right.

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I don't worry. We know. But that's actually that's actually the piece. That's actually the piece.

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Jacob, that's like, that's actually it. Like the be accelerated. We're doing it around sort of

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self concept, like behaviors that they don't want to do. What they do want to do. Shifting the

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identity. Like that's actually it. And we can just apply it. Like that can be the focus. That

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can be the meat. And then it can apply to whatever it is. Give you the meat of how to do personal

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development. Now we'll give you some secrets of our mercy. We've all people. I hope people

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like to get the ULs. But fundamentally, we want to we want to hit on that as the core thing.

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And then what you want to do is explain how it applies to different scenarios. And then

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and then again, we chunk up to once and the reason this is so so valuable is that once you know

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how to change your behavior, what are you going to like this is why like future pacing a little bit.

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So be like, what do you want to once you once you lose the weight? What are you going to do?

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You're going to want to get the job right? Once you get the job, you lose the weight. What do you

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want to do? You want to get the girl right? Like there's always going to be other behaviors. There

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are always going to be new mountains. You have to climb. But you have to learn how to climb to begin

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with first. And so there's a there's a Haitian proverb. This is before they were eating cats and

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dogs that behind mountains are more mountains. And so it's just a great it's just a great visual

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for the idea of like you had you can only see the mountain in front of you. But once you get to

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the top of that mountain, you will be able to see more mountains because you have the perspective

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to see them. Right. And so we have to master climbing. And so I would probably if I was making this

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VSL, I would probably do it as some sort of analogy like climbing amount like something that that could

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translate that's much more tangible that people can kind of hold on to. And so the idea is once I

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teach you how to climb, then you can climb whatever mountains you want. But we'll start with the

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mountain that you need to start climbing first because we got to solve that. So let's solve that.

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Let's get you out of pain. Let's get you, you know, stop being confused, stop being overwhelmed

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and just boil this down to the things that you need to change in your life. The things you got to

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start is things have to stop. Period. And that's where we're going to focus on. And when you start,

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if you join annual, the first 30 days that we're going to do is just when you kick this one thing,

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obviously you can do it on your own. And I'll make a whole plan for you or my recommendation,

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this is where the people who have the most success do is just start with the kick starter.

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You've struggled to commit in the past. Make this be the you draw on the line in the sand. I think

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today's the day I'm going to change. You've had many opportunities in the past. You haven't done it.

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Yeah, I honestly, I think that's it. Like I think that's the that's the piece. It's too big.

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I'll be real with you. I don't know how about how the, you know, Mr. Elmer, I don't I don't mean

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this as an insult. Like the reason the reason I don't like the woo-woo world is because it's so

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fluffy. And I just want reality. And so I think that if he focuses on clarifying his language so that

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people can understand it because I think there's a little bit of mysticism that not a little bit.

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A lot of mysticism that gets appealed to and mysticism is misunderstood. People don't get it.

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And so I think that actually you'll lose conversion because people don't know what we're talking about.

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Now, I'll bet you if he has the following that he does, he does have elements in there that people

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are able to hold on to. It's just not being translated in the market material that I saw.

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Does that make sense? So this isn't me dissing him. I'm just saying like it's me watching that. It

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had the structure of a VSL. It just didn't have the meat because all that I heard was basically like

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the fundamental argument like we boil everything down. And guys, I'd recommend you doing this

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everybody's listening. You have to boil down the core argument. Like what is the argument that I'm

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making? The core argument that I heard is my grandfather knew some secrets. He passed those secrets

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onto me. I have two expensive cars. And therefore I know these secrets. I also went to prison and

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I'm no longer in prison. That to me and the only reason because of that is these secrets.

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That's that was the argument to me. Okay. It's just like I would want more to the argument.

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I think I think we go we need. Okay. Now I'll do I'll do a little recap because I think other people

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will probably take a note. So I'll I'll recap my my stuff. So on YouTube, first comment slash

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pinned, make sure that the CTA is integrated first third. Do that via demonstration. I would do

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that with share screens when you're pulling up the specific stories. Talk about the tactics this

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person employed and the support they were able to get. Success rate in the VSL needs to be

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defined. What is success actually means so that someone actually can internalize it translate all

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the features into benefits of what that actually means. Add the meat of some sort of framework that

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is getting applied rather than just generic secrets. The trot the guarantee should be positioned

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as a trial. And I think you'd convert a lot better. The copy on the about page should be convert

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basically translated into something that works for cold because it works for cold to work for warm.

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The webinar cadence, I think implementing that. So you do one live webinar only for new people every

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week. That'll maximize conversion. The primary offer being annual and the benefit the bonus of being

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annual is the 30 day kickstart that you guys run at the beginning, which you have proof that you

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have charged $300. And from a rotational perspective of doing the other two times a month where you

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hit the whole list up. On those ones, you just basically hit on the season of basically whatever

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the seasonal flavor is. And that'll keep it relatively fresh, but you're still 80, 20, 80 percent value,

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20 percent ask on the internal, internal launches. The external ones you can do kind of a more

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structured pitch for the onboarding calls that you guys are doing. I would give a little commission

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and I would make that 300 and I make annual 400. So any other time besides today you said you

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wanted urgency on the onboarding call. I'll give you 50 bucks off or I'll give you $100 off

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if you choose to do it now. And with that, I'll be able to toss you in. You know at the next

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cohort start in seven days, let's get you going. Just to clarify, you said on the onboarding,

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you said make it 400, make it 400, but then drop it under 300. You mean like make the typical annual

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price 400. And then if they join the onboarding, do it. Well right now your turn, your LTV right now

526
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is a little above 300. So we don't want to trade, we don't want to trade, we don't want to lose money

527
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on the annual. So the right price should be probably, I can do the math, whatever, what is it?

528
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It's like 400 would need to be above, yeah. So 59 divided by 0.18. So 333 is your actual LTV. So

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anything below that you lose money. So I would say let's go 399 as the offer. And then when they're on

530
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the call, you can ascend people at 350 for 349 something like that. All right Alex, thank you so much

531
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for having us on, man. That was super, super helpful. You bet. Happy to help. And hopefully if

532
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you were in the chat, if that was helpful for y'all for some fire emojis so that I can feed the,

533
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the whole that is my soul that that seeks outside approval so that I can feel better about myself.

534
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Dude, I manifested these fire chats. You did. Gabby, thank you so much, man.

535
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How you bet? I'm so, I'm just, everybody used in the woo world. I, um,

536
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I met, I met with a founder this weekend who wanted to do us to invest in the business.

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And I spent three hours with them. And he started the conversation by seeing like it's really all

538
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about mindset. And he just, he didn't know what he was getting into. And three hours later,

539
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he walked out like he was drunk. He was like, I don't know what just happened. He's like, I think

540
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I just worried everything beautiful in the world. And I was like, or you're just incredibly free now.

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If anyone can define mindset, I'm thrilled to hear what you think it is because people use the

542
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word left and right. And no one knows what it means. I'm curious, Alex, just one quick question.

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Do you, do you feel like there's no like cycle, like benefits to psychological sort of mindset,

544
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meditation, mindset is as in like shifting limiting beliefs. You don't think there's anything

545
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practical to people can use who aren't as pragmatic as maybe some other people in terms of like

546
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just forcing action. I'll walk you through the logical proof that I walk this founder through.

547
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Change in mindset, no change in behavior equals nothing, right? Change in mindset, change in behavior

548
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equals something. No change in mindset, change in behavior equals something, which variable

549
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doesn't matter. The mindset, the can I offer an objection? Sure. Just one objection. Do you

550
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do think though that obviously the change in behavior is the pillar, but some people struggle to

551
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make the change in behavior without the change in mindset. If you can define change in mindset,

552
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I'm all ears. But as soon as you try to define it, what you're going to do is you're going to

553
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describe a behavior in which case change in behavior. Because some behavior is a mental, I guess you

554
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could say that. No, not even. No, not even. Let me say differently. How would I know what change in

555
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mindset had occurred? Well, I guess you don't because it's not tangible, which is why I don't appeal

556
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to mysticism or magic. Yeah, that's fair enough. In the observable universe, what will I change?

557
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Now, if you're like, I believe in psychic powers and that's amazing and I wish you the best.

558
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But when people are like, I manifested my husband, you might have decided that you wanted to

559
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have a spouse. And then as a result of that, you then started working out and you started

560
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going out more. And I would argue that you working out and going out more is we got the husband,

561
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not you standing in your shower doing this. Because if we take the equal opposite, just do the

562
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thinking, don't do the doing and see what happens. You guys, I know, I know, I know everybody who's

563
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in here was not was, you know, they didn't come for a for a for a hermose personal velvety. But

564
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I say this as somebody who like this is like, I want to put this in context. When I was younger,

565
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I believe so heavily in this stuff that I believed I could move things with my mind. If I just

566
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if I just ascended to a high enough fucking frequency, I thought I could do it. And so it's not that

567
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it's not that I like have always cast the side. It was that when I saw that nothing in my life

568
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changed, despite me thinking really fucking hard about stuff that I was like, I must be missing

569
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something here. And so I read self help after self help after self health book. And then this is

570
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when I had my job before I quit. And I was like, my life, I remember there's the tenth book that I

571
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read. I was like, my life is the same. And so then I changed my perspective. Now you might say,

572
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that's what happened. It was the change in perspective. Well, I had already changed my perspective

573
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a bunch and nothing fucking happened before that. What really happened was I said, okay,

574
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from here on out, I will not read another book until I do the things that are in the book

575
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from an action perspective. And then when I started doing the things and not reading new books,

576
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is when my life changed, which is when I became an absolute advocate for doing shit rather than

577
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thinking about doing shit. And I see Jamie in there like, what's really tough about this,

578
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where you see things like law of attraction, is that unfortunately, many people who are in

579
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positions of power say words that other people nod their heads to and sound good, but mean nothing.

580
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So like law of attraction has been repeated so many times that people think it's a law. It's a movie

581
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made by direct response marketers. And obviously a really good one from a compelling and persuasion

582
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perspective, because the meat in that story is this law. And boy does it sound better to just

583
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attract stuff than go out and get it. So it's in my opinion, it's selling a victim frame.

584
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It's selling that things happen to you rather than you happening to them. And I would prefer to live

585
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my life as source. Like I am the world's consequence, not the other way around. There's a great little

586
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analogy that I heard a rabbi say recently. He said there are people who are thermometers and

587
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there are people who are thermostats. Some people just have the temperature, they react to the

588
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temperature. Other people change the temperature of the room. I would prefer it to be cause. And for

589
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me, at least it has served me well, which is why I'm an advocate for it. Now if you like the

590
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manifestation stuff, by all means, if you listen to this, then do it. Like see, like I promise you

591
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it makes no difference in my life. I wish you the best. I want you to win. I really, I really

592
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genuinely mean that. I want you to win. And if that's what makes you feel good, then do it.

593
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But if you have tried that stuff and it hasn't worked for you, then consider just changing your

594
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behavior anyways. And there was a very long period of my life where I didn't feel like I deserve

595
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success. Now a lot of people would say you have to change your mindset about that. But what actually

596
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changed my mind was realizing that I could do stuff that successful people did not deserve it and

597
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get it anyways. And so I always identified, oh, like just real, I identified as the villain,

598
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I identified as the oppressor when I was it when I watched stories, when I watched movies,

599
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I did like when when something bad happens, I'm like, well, what did they do? You know,

600
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I'm like, they did something to deserve this shit, right? I always thought that because of that,

601
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it actually was something that I was like, man, I don't know if I'm a good person. I don't know.

602
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I don't know if I deserve success. I these guilt, these shames, things that I would carry with me.

603
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But the thing is, is that all that stuff kept me very handicapped. And so when I realized that I could

604
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just do this stuff and not deserve success and get it anyways, all of a sudden I just started doing

605
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things and then things started happening. And so the whole deservingness got thrown out the window

606
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because I was like, who gives this shit? I don't have to deserve it. I don't have to vibrate

607
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at a certain frequency. And I'll prove it. I can vibrate at a similar frequency. And if I make

608
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100 calls and you don't, I'll fucking sound more shit than you. All right. And with that, go

609
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manifest your destinies. I'll see you later. Bye. Thank you guys.
