WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:05.760 Real life presents the Jack Hibbs podcast with intention and boldness to proclaim 2 00:00:05.760 --> 00:00:11.520 truth, equip the saints and impact our culture. The believer today, as we do this 3 00:00:11.520 --> 00:00:17.080 podcast, you are to be looking for the coming of Jesus Christ. We're living in 4 00:00:17.080 --> 00:00:21.600 days that are so indicative of what the end time speaks about. That's right. How 5 00:00:21.600 --> 00:00:25.880 close are we then? The rapture could happen today. Again, some of you may 6 00:00:25.880 --> 00:00:32.040 disagree because of your preconceived, pre-loaded, if I can put it that way, 7 00:00:32.040 --> 00:00:37.720 theological persuasion that a denomination might have given you or a view might 8 00:00:37.720 --> 00:00:46.080 have influenced you. I'm just saying let's let the Bible stack up upon the Bible. 9 00:00:47.080 --> 00:00:53.520 You can get the outlines of this podcast by going to jackhibbs.com slash podcast. 10 00:00:54.080 --> 00:00:58.880 Today, if this podcast lifts you up and encourages you to live a more fulfilled 11 00:00:58.880 --> 00:01:04.000 life in Christ, then make sure you leave us one of those five star ratings. To us, 12 00:01:04.000 --> 00:01:09.200 that's like saying amen or yes, then that rating will encourage others to listen. 13 00:01:09.840 --> 00:01:14.720 Now, open your hearts to what God's word has to say to you. Here is Jack Hibbs. 14 00:01:16.400 --> 00:01:23.200 Well, everybody, listen, welcome back to our study to our look at the question we put out 15 00:01:23.200 --> 00:01:27.840 a request for questions. Got some great questions back. The bulk of them, as I mentioned 16 00:01:27.840 --> 00:01:32.160 last time together in our previous podcast, if you were not with us, go ahead and check it out. 17 00:01:32.160 --> 00:01:40.400 But by far out and beyond is the question that came in regarding the rapture. Can you clear up 18 00:01:40.400 --> 00:01:45.440 the different views of the rapture? That's going to take obviously more than one or two podcasts, 19 00:01:45.440 --> 00:01:51.680 but let's just dive right in. There are various views of the rapture of the church, 20 00:01:51.680 --> 00:01:55.840 and I'm not going to get into the unpacking of it. We did that last time together. 21 00:01:55.840 --> 00:02:02.800 The word, where is it found? And why is it there and the structure of it? Let's start off with 22 00:02:02.800 --> 00:02:11.680 this second installment regarding the actual mechanics of the rapture, if you would. When I say 23 00:02:11.680 --> 00:02:18.400 mechanics, I mean, not only the promise of it given in scripture, but what will it be like? 24 00:02:18.400 --> 00:02:25.520 Where is it placed? And that's going to launch us into following podcasts. But listen, 25 00:02:26.480 --> 00:02:36.800 what's remarkable is that it is a new testament scripture doctrine that is revealed as a mystery. 26 00:02:36.800 --> 00:02:43.600 We mentioned that last time, mystery on. But let's look at this. Revelation chapter 3 verse 10, 27 00:02:44.320 --> 00:02:50.560 Jesus said to the church at Philadelphia, because you have kept my command to persevere. 28 00:02:51.200 --> 00:02:59.440 I also will keep you from the hour of trial, which shall come upon the whole world 29 00:02:59.440 --> 00:03:04.960 to test those who dwell on the earth. We touched on that last time, but this is important from 30 00:03:04.960 --> 00:03:11.840 here we go. There's an hour. There's a moment. Follow along with me. Even if we profoundly 31 00:03:11.840 --> 00:03:16.960 disagree with each other, just check this out. There is a promise given by Jesus when he says 32 00:03:16.960 --> 00:03:24.480 in Revelation 310, there's an hour that a group of people will be completely exempt from that will 33 00:03:24.480 --> 00:03:31.280 engulf the entire earth. That's a fact right there in scripture. I believe that he's alluding to 34 00:03:31.280 --> 00:03:38.800 the rapture. And it's, I think, very important that it's spoken to the church of Philadelphia 35 00:03:38.800 --> 00:03:46.480 in the seven letters to the seven churches. That dovetails perfectly into, again, a very important 36 00:03:46.480 --> 00:03:52.080 passage where I said last time that Jesus is the one who introduces the rapture doctrine. 37 00:03:52.720 --> 00:03:57.840 John 14 verses 1 to 3, let not your heart be troubled. You believe in God, believe also in me, 38 00:03:58.480 --> 00:04:02.560 for in my father's house, there are many mansions. And if you were not so, I would have told you 39 00:04:03.440 --> 00:04:10.080 and so I go now to prepare a place for you. And if I go to prepare a place for you, I will come 40 00:04:10.080 --> 00:04:17.280 again and receive you to myself that where I am, there you may be also. So we've got a promise 41 00:04:17.280 --> 00:04:26.160 of deliverance in an hour of global terror and global judgment. And it appears as we assemble our 42 00:04:26.240 --> 00:04:33.120 model. It appears that it's Jesus removing His people at some point in time in the future from 43 00:04:33.120 --> 00:04:39.440 this earth to take dwelling in a place where Jesus says in my father's house, there are many 44 00:04:39.440 --> 00:04:45.040 mansions. And that is very important because it's an appearing. Remember, we talked about an appearing 45 00:04:45.040 --> 00:04:52.560 versus a physical coming. Now let's look at this Revelation chapter 4 verse 1. After these things, 46 00:04:52.960 --> 00:05:00.720 looked and behold, John says, a door standing open in heaven. And the first voice which I heard was 47 00:05:00.720 --> 00:05:06.800 like that of a trumpet speaking to me saying, come up here. And I will show you things that must 48 00:05:06.800 --> 00:05:15.840 take place after this. Notice everybody. Whatever is about to happen cannot happen until John's 49 00:05:15.920 --> 00:05:25.840 vantage point is in heaven. And his recording of what happens on earth is from heaven from that 50 00:05:25.840 --> 00:05:32.640 moment forward. So I'm going to ask you to assemble Revelation 310, John 14 verses 1 to 3, 51 00:05:32.640 --> 00:05:38.960 Revelation chapter 4 verses 1 through 11. And I won't go through it all right now. We covered it 52 00:05:39.920 --> 00:05:46.400 last time. But from Revelation 4 1 on, the church is never again seen in heaven. Never again 53 00:05:46.400 --> 00:05:52.240 mentioned. With all that's being poured out on the earth, the church is not there. The church 54 00:05:52.240 --> 00:05:59.840 never meets the antichrist because there is a seven year tribulation period that is something 55 00:05:59.840 --> 00:06:07.680 that's commenced by a signing of a peace treaty. Daniel tells us Daniel chapter 9 verses 24 to 27. 56 00:06:07.680 --> 00:06:14.320 We looked at that before. I want to focus on the pre tribulation rapture theory or doctrine. 57 00:06:14.320 --> 00:06:21.200 Okay. It's so specific that right in the middle of the all of it discourse that Jesus gave to his 58 00:06:21.200 --> 00:06:27.440 disciples concerning the last days, Jesus said this. And if you're not careful, you'll miss it. 59 00:06:28.240 --> 00:06:35.760 And Luke chapter 21. This is important because Luke chapter 21 is the all of it discourse speaking 60 00:06:35.760 --> 00:06:45.920 predominantly to context the Jewish people and the believers during the tribulation period, 61 00:06:46.800 --> 00:06:54.080 not the church. There's the tribulation saints, the church age saints, you and I, and the 62 00:06:54.080 --> 00:07:02.960 Old Testament saints. In Luke 21, Jesus is talking about the events that are also mirrored in Matthew 24, 63 00:07:03.760 --> 00:07:16.880 Matthew 25, and Mark's gospel as well. And so watch this. Luke 21 34, Jesus is be careful because your 64 00:07:16.880 --> 00:07:23.360 hearts could be weighed down with dissipation, drunkenness, and the anxieties of this life, 65 00:07:23.360 --> 00:07:28.960 and that day will close in upon you unexpectedly like a trap. In other words, throughout the 66 00:07:28.960 --> 00:07:34.560 New Testament, we are constantly warned to be ready. Be ready. Be ready. Be ready. My goodness, 67 00:07:34.560 --> 00:07:40.160 second Thessalonians is all about that. First Thessalonians, many areas of the gospel itself, 68 00:07:40.160 --> 00:07:49.360 throughout the epistles. It's everywhere. It's a New Testament, common challenge, exhortation. 69 00:07:49.840 --> 00:07:57.680 So verse 35, Luke 21, he says, for it will come upon all those who live on the face of the earth. 70 00:07:59.680 --> 00:08:05.920 Wow, whatever is coming is going to affect everybody on the earth. Could anybody be exempt from that 71 00:08:05.920 --> 00:08:15.280 Paul or could any or Luke or Jesus or what's going on here? Verse 36, be always on the watch and 72 00:08:15.280 --> 00:08:21.520 pray that you may escape all that is about to happen and that you may be able to stand before 73 00:08:21.520 --> 00:08:30.560 the Son of Man in the midst of all of the foreboding, horrific things that are going to come upon the 74 00:08:30.560 --> 00:08:37.680 earth dwellers during the seven year tribulation period. There is a parenthetical insert by Jesus 75 00:08:38.000 --> 00:08:44.800 himself saying, Hey, I'm paraphrasing right now. Hey, you guys, what I said in Luke 21, 36, 76 00:08:45.280 --> 00:08:53.200 didn't I say it in John 14 versus one to three? You're going to get out of here before the entire 77 00:08:53.200 --> 00:09:01.680 world is engulfed in my coming judgment, in my coming wrath upon the earth during the tribulation 78 00:09:01.760 --> 00:09:08.880 period. Titus 213, we are there admonished to be looking for the blessed hope and the glorious 79 00:09:08.880 --> 00:09:14.160 appearance of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ. Notice you're supposed to be looking for the 80 00:09:14.160 --> 00:09:20.720 coming of the Messiah, not the anti Messiah, for Jesus Christ, not the anti Christ. The believer 81 00:09:20.720 --> 00:09:28.080 today, right now, as we do this podcast, you are to be looking for the coming of Jesus Christ. 82 00:09:28.080 --> 00:09:32.000 You see, well, Jack, we're seeing all kinds of things about a global government, global religion, 83 00:09:32.000 --> 00:09:37.040 global currency, a digital currency. We're here, we're hearing about all these things regarding 84 00:09:38.320 --> 00:09:45.600 DARPA developing these subcutaneous invisible or visible, whatever you want. You want it look 85 00:09:45.600 --> 00:09:53.120 like a tattoo or not, but a system by which you are electronically able to deduct money from your 86 00:09:53.120 --> 00:09:58.720 account, go shopping at a store, walk around this world, having your heart rate, your blood pressure, 87 00:09:58.720 --> 00:10:04.320 everything recorded back to your physician or on your app. We're living in days that are so 88 00:10:04.320 --> 00:10:10.400 indicative of what the end time speaks about. That's right. How close are we then? The rapture could 89 00:10:10.400 --> 00:10:18.240 happen today. Again, some of you may disagree because of your preconceived, preloaded, if I can put 90 00:10:18.240 --> 00:10:24.640 it that way theological persuasion that a denomination might have given you or a view might have 91 00:10:25.760 --> 00:10:32.720 influenced you. I'm just saying let's let the Bible stack up upon the Bible. So watch this. 92 00:10:32.720 --> 00:10:38.640 Very cool. First Thessalonians is written to the Thessalonian believers and remember this. 93 00:10:38.640 --> 00:10:45.520 First Thessalonians has to do with the rapture. Second Thessalonians has to do with the events of 94 00:10:45.520 --> 00:10:53.920 the second coming. Very simple. One, two, rapture comes before the second coming. The first coming 95 00:10:53.920 --> 00:11:02.720 was Palm Sunday. Rapture is at any time, predominantly Gentile, but not exclusively so, but absolutely 96 00:11:02.720 --> 00:11:09.680 exclusively the church. And the second coming goes right back to the first. It deals with Israel, 97 00:11:09.680 --> 00:11:15.440 Christ returned to Israel. It's a physical return and it's coming for the establishment of 98 00:11:15.440 --> 00:11:22.880 His kingdom. Number one, first Thessalonians chapter one, verse 10, wait for His Son from heaven, 99 00:11:22.880 --> 00:11:29.840 whom He raised from the dead, even Jesus, who delivers us from the wrath to come. Boom, that's 100 00:11:29.840 --> 00:11:36.960 awesome. The wrath to come does not mean hell. The wrath to come is God's wrath on earth, 101 00:11:36.960 --> 00:11:47.200 His vengeance, His indignation, the holy, pure white hot fire of God's wrath is going to be 102 00:11:47.200 --> 00:11:52.960 poured out upon the earth. And by the way, it is starting with the seven year tribulation at 103 00:11:52.960 --> 00:11:58.640 its commencement at the signing of the peace treaty. It begins. And the first three and a half years 104 00:11:58.720 --> 00:12:05.280 is God's wrath being poured out in the area of the sin. The anti-Christ deceiving the world 105 00:12:05.280 --> 00:12:14.160 with peace and prosperity. That's how it starts. Deception. God gives people over to what they want. 106 00:12:14.880 --> 00:12:20.640 That's a judgment of God. Remember, you say, Jack, that's a stretch. Not at all. It's, it holds to 107 00:12:20.640 --> 00:12:26.960 the law of expositional constancy. Do you remember when the children of Israel wanted meat in the wilderness? 108 00:12:27.280 --> 00:12:32.880 They said, we want meat. We're sick of this manna. We have manna every day. We're tired of it. 109 00:12:32.880 --> 00:12:39.680 We don't want to have it anymore. We want meat. And they were grumbling about what God had given them. 110 00:12:39.680 --> 00:12:45.440 And so God said, Moses, get out of the way. I'm going to give them meat. And so God sent a wind 111 00:12:45.440 --> 00:12:54.400 to blow and quail by the bazillions quail began to fly. And the Bible says they were flying. 112 00:12:55.360 --> 00:13:00.320 I forget what the height was. But in English, it's about four feet to the ground down, four feet. 113 00:13:00.320 --> 00:13:05.760 So God sent a bunch of quail to the children of Israel in the strike zone, okay? 114 00:13:07.440 --> 00:13:11.200 They were just able to start batting these quail right out of the sky. They had quail. 115 00:13:11.200 --> 00:13:14.720 They're eating quail. And the quail started to come out of their nose. The Bible says 116 00:13:17.920 --> 00:13:22.320 and the Bible tells us because they grumbled, God gave them what they wanted. But He sent 117 00:13:22.400 --> 00:13:28.800 leanness into their soul as judgment. Wow. Think of that. So watch out what you ask for. 118 00:13:29.360 --> 00:13:32.800 If you keep asking God for it, He just might give it to you. It may not be good. 119 00:13:33.840 --> 00:13:39.200 So remember that. The rest starts out with what looks like it's a good stuff. But the last half 120 00:13:39.200 --> 00:13:42.880 of the tribulation period is absolutely the things that we often focus on. And that is the 121 00:13:42.880 --> 00:13:48.720 incredible devastation of earth and things that are going on. Just know this. All seven years is 122 00:13:48.720 --> 00:13:55.040 the wrath of God. Don't anybody fool you. Now, 1st Thessalonians 2 and each of the five chapters 123 00:13:55.040 --> 00:14:02.800 is a promise. Verse 19, for what is our hope or joy or crown of rejoicing? Is it not even you 124 00:14:02.800 --> 00:14:08.960 in the presence of our Lord Jesus Christ at His appearing or at His coming? That is for the church? 125 00:14:09.520 --> 00:14:17.680 Number three, 1st Thessalonians 3, 13 says this, so that He may establish your heart's 126 00:14:17.680 --> 00:14:26.080 blameless in holiness before our God and Father at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ with all 127 00:14:26.080 --> 00:14:31.440 His saints. You're going to say, Jack, no, no, no, that's the second, that's the post-tribulation 128 00:14:31.440 --> 00:14:36.320 view. No, it's not. Listen, I'm going to prove it to you in the next section of scriptures. 129 00:14:37.040 --> 00:14:43.360 When Jesus comes back to pick up His church, He appears in the atmosphere, but He brings 130 00:14:43.360 --> 00:14:49.760 with Him those who died in Jesus. That's why it says when He comes back to get the church, 131 00:14:49.760 --> 00:14:57.040 hear us. 1st Thessalonians 3, He brings the saints that died in the church age with Him. 132 00:14:57.680 --> 00:15:04.640 In that second, before we go up, their bodies come out of the grave glorified. So here we go. 133 00:15:04.640 --> 00:15:10.560 1st Thessalonians 4, verse 13, but I do not want you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning those 134 00:15:10.560 --> 00:15:15.680 who have fallen asleep or died it is in Jesus, lest you sorrow as others who have no hope. 135 00:15:16.400 --> 00:15:24.080 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who sleep 136 00:15:24.080 --> 00:15:31.520 or died in Jesus, that's John 14, everybody. That is John 14. That's everything we've been talking 137 00:15:32.480 --> 00:15:37.600 about. For this we say to you by the word of the Lord that we who are alive and remain until 138 00:15:37.600 --> 00:15:42.160 the coming of the Lord is not an amazing Paul thought that there was the great chance of Him being 139 00:15:42.160 --> 00:15:48.720 raptured too. Well, by no means precede those who died in Jesus. For the Lord Himself will descend 140 00:15:48.720 --> 00:15:54.640 from heaven with a shout with the voice of the archangel and the trumpet of God and the dead 141 00:15:54.640 --> 00:16:01.600 and Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together. Remember 142 00:16:01.600 --> 00:16:05.840 last time that's the word rapture in there. We're not going to get into it again. Go look at our 143 00:16:05.840 --> 00:16:12.800 previous podcast together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and thus we shall 144 00:16:12.800 --> 00:16:20.880 always be with the Lord. That's John 14 verses 1, 2 and 3 verse 18 says of 1st Thessalonians 4, 145 00:16:20.880 --> 00:16:24.560 therefore comfort one another with these words. You know, you shouldn't get in a fight about it, 146 00:16:24.560 --> 00:16:29.120 shouldn't get in an argument about it. We have different views. That's okay, but just know this. 147 00:16:29.120 --> 00:16:35.200 It's to be a comfort. The rapture should be a great great comfort. 1st Thessalonians chapter 5 and 148 00:16:35.200 --> 00:16:41.120 this is the final exhortation in 1st Thessalonians regarding the pre-tribulation rapture view. 149 00:16:41.120 --> 00:16:47.280 For God did not appoint us to wrath but to obtain salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ. You and I 150 00:16:47.280 --> 00:16:53.760 will not see the wrath of God that is going to be coming upon the earth. This is awesome. The 151 00:16:53.760 --> 00:17:01.600 pre-tribulation rapture view is the only rapture view that takes the word of God in total, listen 152 00:17:01.600 --> 00:17:09.840 and literal. I told you before, I used to be a post-tribulationist. It's not easy. You've got to 153 00:17:09.840 --> 00:17:17.520 jumble up Israel and the church together and you've got the church experiencing the wrath of God. 154 00:17:18.320 --> 00:17:23.040 So no, no, no, no, no, we don't jack. We have we have the church being sheltered from the wrath of 155 00:17:23.040 --> 00:17:28.720 God. You just made that up. No, when the Bible doesn't say that. In fact, it says that Tribulation 156 00:17:28.720 --> 00:17:37.360 Saints, Daniel chapter 7 verse 21, as well as Revelation chapter 6 on, that those who believe in 157 00:17:37.360 --> 00:17:43.440 the Lord Jesus during the tribulation period must die for their faith. So don't tell me about 158 00:17:43.440 --> 00:17:49.840 being kept through. Somebody will say, no, it's the pre, it's the post-tribulation rapture because 159 00:17:49.840 --> 00:17:55.200 just like God kept Noah through the flood, he's going to keep the church through the tribulation. 160 00:17:55.200 --> 00:18:02.320 You're making it up. It's not there. That promise, by the way, that or I should say that event 161 00:18:03.280 --> 00:18:08.960 better fits the remnant of Israel in the tribulation period than it does the church. The church 162 00:18:08.960 --> 00:18:15.680 is not in the seven year tribulation period. It doesn't fit. You can't find it. It doesn't apply. 163 00:18:15.680 --> 00:18:22.800 There's no reason for it. It's for God dealing with an unbelieving world. He will, he'll purge 164 00:18:24.720 --> 00:18:30.640 Israel from the unbelieving Israel and out of it will be the remnant and the remnant will die for 165 00:18:30.640 --> 00:18:35.920 their faith in Christ. But before they do, that remnant will preach the gospel to the ends of the 166 00:18:35.920 --> 00:18:42.160 earth and the tons of Gentiles will be saved. We talked about that before. Second Corinthians chapter 167 00:18:42.160 --> 00:18:47.920 5, I'm trying to jam this in under 20 minute podcasts today for your listening pleasure. 168 00:18:48.640 --> 00:18:56.000 Second Corinthians 5 1 says, for we know that if our earthly house is talking about our body, 169 00:18:56.880 --> 00:19:03.840 this tent is destroyed. We have a building from God, a house not made with hands, 170 00:19:03.840 --> 00:19:09.280 eternal in the heavens. He's talking about a body. That's why some of us speculate 171 00:19:09.280 --> 00:19:15.040 when Jesus says, in my father's house, there are many mansions, it does mean areas to live in. 172 00:19:15.040 --> 00:19:20.560 But some say, could it mean bodies? I'm not going to worry about it. I'm just going to be happy about 173 00:19:21.200 --> 00:19:30.480 it. Verse 2, and for this we groan earnestly desiring to be clothed with our habitation, which is 174 00:19:30.480 --> 00:19:38.320 from heaven. If indeed having been clothed, we shall not be found naked. For we are in this tent, 175 00:19:39.040 --> 00:19:46.640 we groan, being burdened not because we want to be unclowed but further clothed or better clothed. 176 00:19:46.640 --> 00:19:54.080 We're going to get a glorified body. That mortality, this flesh, may be swallowed up by life. 177 00:19:54.080 --> 00:20:01.040 Now, he who has prepared us for this very thing is God, who also has given us the spirit as a 178 00:20:01.040 --> 00:20:08.880 guarantee. So we are always confident knowing that while we're at home in the body, we are absent 179 00:20:08.880 --> 00:20:15.920 from the Lord. And the reverse of that experience is for you and I to have our bodies transformed 180 00:20:16.000 --> 00:20:22.560 at the coming of the rapture. The pre-tribulation rapture views, not a fairy tale, it's not escape 181 00:20:22.560 --> 00:20:28.080 ism and people are going to say, well, Spurgeon didn't talk about it so it can't be true. 182 00:20:28.960 --> 00:20:34.960 Listen, neither did a Luther, neither did Calvin, neither did Zwingli, neither did 183 00:20:36.240 --> 00:20:42.480 name it. I don't even think Finney did. Fill it in the book. Go, why didn't they? You might say, 184 00:20:42.720 --> 00:20:47.200 if it's such a big deal, why didn't they? Well, number one, let's forget about people. 185 00:20:49.680 --> 00:21:01.200 Who spoke about it? The prophet spoke about it. Isaiah 21, Isaiah 26, I'll have to, it's Isaiah 26 186 00:21:01.920 --> 00:21:08.400 versus 19 to 21 alluded to it. Isaiah 26, 19 to 21, but it's certainly the New Testament 187 00:21:09.120 --> 00:21:16.320 authors and it's certainly Jesus. So for the last 2,000 years, it's been on the calendar 188 00:21:16.320 --> 00:21:24.640 everybody. So stop looking at what others have said. Look, I don't even cite, you never hear me 189 00:21:24.640 --> 00:21:34.080 quote Chuck Smith, Tim Lahay, Ed Heintsen, Hal Lindsay, Chuck Missler, John Wolverid, Mark Hitchcock. 190 00:21:35.040 --> 00:21:40.800 I could go on and on about pre-tribulation rapture view, Thomas Ice. 191 00:21:43.680 --> 00:21:49.680 Listen, I used to listen faithfully and I used to go attend the services of Dr. Walter Martin 192 00:21:49.680 --> 00:21:53.840 in Orange County, loved him. He was a post tribulationist. Do you know why he was? 193 00:21:55.680 --> 00:22:02.000 He said why he was. Dr. Walter Martin said, I'm a post tribulationist because I had such a vivid 194 00:22:02.000 --> 00:22:10.080 dream that I was going through the tribulation period. Walter Martin died and he went to have it. 195 00:22:10.800 --> 00:22:15.040 When Jesus Christ comes back to pick up the church, he's going to be bringing Walter Martin with him. 196 00:22:16.160 --> 00:22:22.320 Okay, but Walter Martin built his post tribulation view, not on scripture, but on a dream 197 00:22:22.320 --> 00:22:30.240 that he was convinced came to him by God. Clearly it was a dream for either a different reason 198 00:22:30.240 --> 00:22:35.360 or it didn't come from God, but don't get me wrong. Walter Martin, check him out. He's amazing. 199 00:22:36.400 --> 00:22:40.480 But friends, listen, we are out of time. This is ridiculous. It goes by too fast. 200 00:22:42.480 --> 00:22:48.720 We'll go through this until you think it's a good time to leave this aside, but we'll come back 201 00:22:48.720 --> 00:22:53.360 next time looking at two things at the same time. We're going to look at the mid-tribulation 202 00:22:53.440 --> 00:22:59.440 rapture view and the post tribulation rapture view. Why do people believe it? What scriptures do 203 00:22:59.440 --> 00:23:06.800 they use to believe it? And what are the dangers to believing it? Say, Jackie, are you kidding me? No, 204 00:23:06.800 --> 00:23:14.560 no, no. What are the dangers to believing any other view that says my master delays his return 205 00:23:15.360 --> 00:23:22.960 because these other things have got to happen first, right? So much so the Bible warns us, 206 00:23:22.960 --> 00:23:29.440 Jesus himself said, don't pay any attention to somebody who says that something needs to take 207 00:23:29.440 --> 00:23:38.640 place before the master comes. You need to have your oil lamp burning and you need to have an 208 00:23:38.640 --> 00:23:44.240 extra cache of oil. Then what the parable said, we need to be waiting and we need to be ready. 209 00:23:44.240 --> 00:23:50.800 I'm going to submit to you as we close. It's really hard to be a Christian at a time like this, 210 00:23:51.280 --> 00:23:57.200 whereby we engage the culture for righteousness. We get an all kinds of trouble for doing good. 211 00:23:58.880 --> 00:24:06.000 Our names are smeared all over the internet because we are Islamophobes, transphobes, 212 00:24:07.760 --> 00:24:15.440 whatever foes, and yet love all those that are attacking us and love all those communities. In 213 00:24:15.520 --> 00:24:26.240 fact, one of my good friends is a Muslim. All that stuff, it's hard to stay faithful to shining the 214 00:24:26.240 --> 00:24:32.880 light and being salt, knowing that Jesus could come back in any second. Why don't we just listen? 215 00:24:32.880 --> 00:24:38.960 Why don't we just fold our arms and sleep, so to speak? Why don't we just wait? Let's put on white 216 00:24:38.960 --> 00:24:45.440 robes and sit on the roof. No, the Bible says occupy till I come. You gotta keep doing the right 217 00:24:45.440 --> 00:24:50.000 thing until it shows up. I'm going to submit to you that because I believe Jesus could come back 218 00:24:50.000 --> 00:24:57.600 today, this is why we're planning a pastor's conference regarding the future of California. 219 00:24:58.480 --> 00:25:03.360 So who cares about California? Well, I have to care because I'm still here. I have to prepare for 220 00:25:03.360 --> 00:25:08.320 the next 100 years, but I believe Jesus could come back today. I'll submit to you that that takes 221 00:25:08.320 --> 00:25:17.360 more discipline than the mid and post tribulation rapture view. So there I'm kidding. I'm kidding. 222 00:25:17.360 --> 00:25:24.240 Hey you guys, hope you like my shirt. Real life network Hawaii. 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