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The Lord calls us to trouble, the Lord wants trouble to be afraid of us because he is inside us

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as we walk into the battle. You just heard this in the last song, is that where God is in the battle,

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okay? So what that means is if you're going through hell, something's going on in your life,

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you know God is there. But let me, let me flip it and say if everything's fine in your life,

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you need to find a battle. Welcome to the City Light Church podcast. Thanks for joining us today.

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As we look into God's Word and discover the hope and truth that He has for us.

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If you want to connect with City Light Church, feel free to visit us at citylightnyc.com.

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That's citylightnyc.com. Pastor Boyan Jansik and his team believe that the power of the Holy Spirit

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is already working in our hearts and minds. As you listen to today's teaching, remember that you are

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deeply loved by God that you are surrounded by His grace and that He has a real hope and a future for

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you. Are you excited for Eric Mitaxis? This couldn't have worked out better that we,

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we as a church in our life groups, read the book letter to the American church

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and that He's here as a capstone on that whole thing. And I'll tell you this,

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I first heard of Eric Mitaxis around 2012 after a couple of years after his Bonhopper book

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was out and it was the thing in pastoral circles. I don't even know if all the pastors read them,

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but they like to carry it around with them. If you ever wonder what pastors do throughout the

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week, I don't do this anymore. They do a lot of things, but they also just go to like pastoral

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conferences together on how to pastor better. I stopped that because they always serve really bad

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chicken. It's like the same caterer at every one of those events. And everybody had that book

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and he was Mr. Popular here in New York City. And then I noticed that as the churches began to

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compromise more, and what I mean by that frankly is just go more woke. And you know how

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woke is him crept in? It crept in under the guise of compassion, which is wonderful,

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under the guise of love, and under the guise of tolerance, and it crept in slowly to where we

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then sacrificed the word of God in biblical integrity. And as I saw churches go that way by around

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2016, I mean his reputation here, his popularity went right down the tubes, but he did not compromise,

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and he stayed true to the word of God. And I so honor that and I so respect that. The Lord needs

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to raise up voices like this. I pray from right within our ranks. Spirit-filled voices that will stand

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up for the integrity of God's word and never ever back down. Won't you put your hands together as

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we welcome Eric Mataxis. So glad you're here. So glad. Thank you. I can't even believe

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I can't believe the church like this exists in Astoria. Are you sure you're here today?

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Really? Pastor Bowai, praise the Lord for you. I can't tell you. You have no idea. You do

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have no idea. Now by the way, I was born in Astoria. And if you were not born in Astoria, shame on you.

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No, I had no choice in where I was born. You know, that's not true. I'm Greek. When you're Greek,

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legally by law. You need to be born in Astoria. That's the way it breaks down. We don't want to

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break the law. You know, Romans 13. You gotta go with it. So my mother rushed over here just in time.

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No, my father came from Greece. My mother came from Germany. They met in an English class

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in New York City. And you know, in English class, I'm not talking about studying Chaucer.

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If you haven't heard of Chaucer, you need to go back to school.

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Yeah. But they met in an English class. And so I'm the son of European immigrants

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to United States of America. My parents came here because they were smart enough,

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wise enough to understand that America is the best country in the history of the world.

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Doesn't mean it's perfect. In case I need to throw that in. In case you think I'm a Christian

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nationalist or whatever, whatever term. But they understand like what we have here is not normal.

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Okay, the opportunities have it. So they left, you know, East Germany and Greece to come here. And

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you know, when you're in Queens, like this is like, this is immigrant city, right? This is it.

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People come here from other places. And usually if you come from the other side, as my mother and

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father did, and you lived through World War II, and you know what it is, literally to be hungry,

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many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many times, you appreciate things. You think differently

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than your typical American. So I grew up in America, grew up here in Queens and in

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in Danbury, Connecticut. And when you're hanging around with American kids in American school,

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you realize if they don't get it, they think this is normal. This is not normal. Patriots have died

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so that we could have freedom and opportunity. And I didn't really come here to talk about America,

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but when I talk about my mother and my father, it's impossible for me not to think about that,

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because they were immigrants. They had nothing to had accents. My mother still has an accent,

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right? My dad passed in January, but they didn't even try to teach me to love America.

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Like, you don't need to do that. If you tell the stories of how you grew up in communist,

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East Germany, do you understand? I need to break down for you. Communism is Satan's politics,

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okay? Communism by definition, Marxism by definition, atheistic, okay? Atheism is not neutral.

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Atheism is like devil worshipping in another name, because it's basically the enemy of God.

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The devil is the enemy of God. So don't, when people say secular or atheists, that's not neutral.

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Now, the people might be nice people who are deluded, but if you live in a communist country,

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or you come from a family, okay? Anytime I meet somebody who's, you know, living in Miami,

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they're from Cuba. They get it. I don't need to explain to them the satanic evil of that kind of

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thing, because they have lived it. It is nasty. It is evil. But if you grew up in America, you can't

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think, oh, we don't have evil anymore. We kind of evolved past that. Everything's okay.

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And no, there's evil as as much evil in the world today as there ever was.

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But we've been uniquely blessed and spoiled in America. So a lot of times we just, we don't get it.

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But if you grew up in a home like I did, where your parents are constantly telling you the stories

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of how they grew up, you're going to, you're going to get it. You, you understand. And so I was

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raised without even my parents trying to understand, there's the evil in the world. And what you have,

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you don't deserve it. And you shouldn't take it for granted. And so I kind of grew up with that.

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And you know, I should mention Rich is selling the books here. I wrote the book. I came to faith

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dramatically, miraculously. How many people believe in miracles? Do you believe miracles?

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Yeah. If you don't believe miracles, you're not a Christian. Just saying. I'm not judging,

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but I'm just letting you know. I was saved very miraculously in a dream. The Lord spoke to me in

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a dream. It was mind blowing. Now, you got to understand, I went to Yale University, okay, which

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is a Marxist indoctrination camp. Did you know that? Yeah. Most of the Ivy League and all these

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elite universities, you got to think, oh, it was great, great, until you get there. And you're like,

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oh, so, but I was too foolish to know it at the time. You know, I was raised. I said in a working

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class home and you go to these places, you don't understand like you're drinking the coolate of

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secular humanism, Marxism, whatever. And I didn't, I didn't really appreciate what I had. But as I

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moved on, I realized like, I don't believe anything. Whatever heartland values I picked up from my

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mom and dad, I lost because that's the job of places like Yale University is to kind of, you know,

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lead you down this path. And you're kind of drinking the secular humanist coolate of the cultural

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elites. We could put it that way, right? It's like, yeah, we all agree on that, right? There's no

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God, right? Right, right? Like America's not that great, right? You know, like it's kind of like the,

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you kind of like buy into this thing. So I graduated. I was very lost. And the Lord very dramatically

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saved me around my 25th birthday. I won't tell that story here. If I ever get invited back,

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I could tell that story another time. It's actually, I'll be honest with you. Don't clap. I'm not done yet.

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But the fact is that it is really a miraculous story. I mean, it's one of those stories that,

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you know, I defy you to explain to me what it could be other than God because sometimes God

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shows up in a way that blows your mind. And there's no alternative to be like, oh, well, what could

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it be? It's God, like you're stuck. So Jesus delivered me around my 25th birthday. But I wrote a book

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called Fish Out of Water, which I know Rich has here. But it's like, it's a story of my life growing

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up in that path. But God saved me around my 25th birthday. And it just changed everything. It just

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changed everything. And I think that, you know, when your conversion is dramatic, you can't

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see, it's like solving for X. You can see clearly before, after, you know, and if you raise in the

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faith, it could be more difficult because you're kind of, you know, but not by the way, being raised

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in the faith, that's better. It's better than drifting away into hell and sin and death and then

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having the Lord rescue you. But God will do what he's going to do. But it really, again, if I come

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back another time, I could tell the story, but it is amazing that God has got miracles. And I say

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this just because I think a lot of times people have a very intellectual faith. They're all theological

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and it's kind of like you buy into a philosophical system. Well, that's not it. Okay. It's about a

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personal relationship with a person, capital P. And there's a lot of people that identify as

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Christians, they don't really get that. And I'm here to encourage you to say that the Lord wants

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you to have a personal relationship. And he wants you to know that he wants to speak to you. Now,

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he's going to speak to every one of us differently. You know, I have friends that see in the spirit and

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they're seeing you see the angel. It's like, no, but they see it and then I'm making it up, right?

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God is, you know, there's prophetic voices where God will deliver a prophetic thing and they say,

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God said this and this and this. Now, there's always going to be frauds and phonies. We know that.

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It doesn't mean there's no prophetic voices. I have a friend who's a fraud. No, I have a friend,

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a friend named Ken Fish, who he was a quantum physics major at Princeton, like insane genius,

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right? But he now has a ministry of healing and deliverance, right? And when you see that stuff,

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you go, that's God. That's real. People being delivered. Have you ever seen anybody? I had never

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seen this until 10 years ago. Somebody being delivered of a demon like right in front of you.

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Like when you see that, you go, like, what was that? What was that? Right? So I think I was,

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some of you know, Jordan Peterson, right? I had him on my radio program and I was interviewing him.

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He interviewed me like a year ago, but I knew it was interviewing him. And he talks like in these

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kind of metaphorical things, like when he's talking about God, it's like this metaphorical thing,

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what again? And then he's talking about evil and the demonic, but he makes this metaphorical,

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and it's like, well, it operates on the metaphorical. It can be complicated, but Jesus did not cast out

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metaphors, right? Like it's real. It's like using the term like, oh, you're a tumor on the society,

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like it's a metaphor, but they're actual tumors and surgeons cut them out, like real literal

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tumor. They're literal demons and stuff. And so I think a lot of times a lot of Christians have a

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faith that doesn't, it doesn't know the supernatural side of God, like it's all the intellectual side.

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The intellectual side is important, but you need to know God experientially too. God wants to

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speak to us. And so he's spoken to me many times over the years in different ways. And you know,

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if you have a really high view of God, if you love God and fear God, you take that seriously.

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You wouldn't say God said, but he didn't say. You're like, that's blasphemy if you say God said,

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but he didn't say. So it's just very important that we have that we have an experiential

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relationship with God and understand because I think if you don't, you can really lose your faith

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easily, right? It's just like some ideas. But no, if you know him, you're stuck because you know him.

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So like if things go wrong, it's like, well, I still I know God. And I know there was a reason I was

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saying all that, but I can't remember. No, actually, I'll tell you why I say that because some of

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you have read already read my book Letter to the American Church. How many of you I'm just curious,

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how many of you have read the book? Okay, you guys can like go take a cigarette break because I'm

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just gonna talk about that. No, the the sequel to that book is called Religionless Christianity.

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And that just came out. It's about the same length as my shortest books ever. But when I say about

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hearing from God, I've written, I don't know, 15 plus books over the years, but I've never ever

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written a book like Letter to the American Church where I knew God spoke that to me. Now it's not

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like I got a download and I'm like, you know, ghost writing like no, no, no. But and this is what I'm

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saying like you have to learn how to hear from God because he speaks to each of us differently. We're

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all his children. He speaks to us in different way. We're all different, right? But I knew that God

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had given me this message. I never had that before, like a burning message from God. And I also never

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written a book for the church before. Every book I write, except these last two Letter to the American

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Church and the new one Religionless Christianity, I wrote for everybody. Another was every one of my

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books I want anybody could read it. It's not just for the church, but Letter to the American Church

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and Religionless Christianity, I wrote to the church. And I really felt this burning

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passion from the Lord like you got to write this. And so I wrote it. And honestly, I didn't expect

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it to, you know, do well or to whatever, you know, I just like sometimes the God says do something,

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you say, okay, Lord, okay, and you just do it. But I'm glad that he's been using it. I'm glad

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that churches like your church are reading it because unfortunately, it's important right now.

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I wish you were not, but we're in a weird place in history right now. We're in a very, very weird

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place. Now look, Romans 828, all things work together for good. Every bad thing

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works together for good, for those that love the Lord and are called according to His purposes.

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So anybody who kind of like rips off half of that and says like, yeah, I think all things work

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out in the end. No, no, that's stupid. All things work together for good, for those who love God

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and call the according to His purposes, okay. So, but I say that because things have gone crazy

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in America and in the world. And if you're not really paying attention, you might not understand,

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you might not be able to discern what is happening. But if you're a little older as I am, you could

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see like, what's going on now? We have never, never, never, never seen anything like this right now.

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We're seeing actual evil, right? But if you're Christian, you say all things work together for good,

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for those that love the Lord. So in other words, what is happening now with all the lunacy that

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you're seeing? I'm here to tell you God is using it. Now, He can't use it unless you cooperate

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with Him. He will not force you to cooperate with Him. He has given you the freedom to ignore Him,

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to avoid Him, to do whatever you want. But if you know Him and love Him and are calling

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according to His purposes, you want to cooperate with Him. And so all these bad things that are

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happening, the Lord wants to use it number one to wake up His church. He wants us to be awake

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and we have not been awake. And that's bad, right? So the pastor was mentioning my Bonhoeffer book.

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When I wrote that book, I had no clue, no clue that God would use that book in the way He did,

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that it would be like a big thing. I believe me, trust me, I had no clue. But the Lord,

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you know, He knows what He's doing and He wanted to get that message out. Now, what's the message

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of the Bonhoeffer book? It's the same message that I talk about in the United of the American

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Church and in religion with Christianity. At the end of the day, the story of Bonhoeffer,

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it's a story of a man of God who sees evil rising and he sees the church not responding.

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And as a prophetic voice, he's saying, hey church, God has called you to stand against this evil.

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God has called you to speak against this evil. God has called you to go to war with this evil.

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Now, you don't go to war, you know, in the flesh, but you don't sit on your hands,

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you go to war against evil. When there's evil, God calls His people to stand against it,

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to advocate for truth and goodness. And sometimes the church says, nah, we don't want to do that.

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We just want to preach the gospel. We just want to do church. We just want to have a nice church

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service. And so does Satan want you to have a nice church service. Satan loves that kind of a

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church. That's Satan's church. Let's think about that. Let's think about that. When you say,

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I don't want to get involved. I don't want to get involved. So you're looking for a religious

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excuse to not get involved, right? That it looks good, but God knows His disobedience is wrong.

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It is allowing evil to rise up. Now, that's the story of the German church. So if you read the

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Bondhofer book and you know, it's an amazing story. It is a dramatically fascinating story.

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I didn't invent it. I just wrote the story, right? I gave me the ability to tell the story.

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It's an amazing story. But at the heart of that story is this pastor who sees the German church

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flinching. He sees the German church using religious excuses to avoid doing the will of God.

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Now, what is more satanic than using religious excuses to avoid doing the will of God?

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What's more satanic than using scripture twisting it to avoid doing the will of God?

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Was there anybody more religious than the Pharisees and the religious leaders in Jesus' day?

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Jesus did not thunder against Hellenistic philosophy. He did not thunder against pagans.

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No, he thundered against the religious leaders because he said that is where the devil lives.

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If you're a Satan, where are you going to go? It's going to be the most satanic counterfeit conceivable

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to go among the religious, to fool people that are fooled by mere religion.

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And so we're dealing with that in our day, right? If you're the enemy, where are you going to go?

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You want to infiltrate the church. That's way better than trying to call people into open sin.

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Now, who needs that? Let's do it in a way that looks like virtue.

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That's satanic, right? So, Bon offer sees the church in Germany

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absolutely buying these lies, right? Romans 13, the scripture says, you know, whatever the

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government says, you do that. And he's thinking, excuse me, there's a whole other Bible beyond Romans 13,

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much of which says exactly the opposite. So you need the Holy Spirit. You need a personal

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relationship with the Lord to have discernment to understand what is God saying. If you want to

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cherry pick scripture verses, the devil does that. The devil did that when he quoted scripture to Jesus.

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So don't try to fool me by quoting scriptures. What is the Lord saying? What is a Holy Spirit saying?

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And so, one of us, a lot of the church in Germany, being very religious, and say, we just want to

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do nice church services. Well, Bon offer tried and tried to wake up the church, and he knew there was

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a little window of opportunity, right? Because sometimes I think we think, oh God, he's so gracious.

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So give me a second chance, his third chance, where like, well, yeah, on one level, that's true,

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just like a lot of stuff is true on one level. On another level, it's not true. If you don't act by

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X time, it's over, right? You know, it's like you ever try to catch a plane and you miss it by one

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minute. Well, if you miss it by one minute or 40 minutes, it doesn't really matter. You're not

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graded on a curve. You missed it. You missed it. It's gone, right? So the fact of the matter is,

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you could say about an election. Oh, we only lost by two votes. Well, it doesn't really matter. If

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you lose by a thousand votes, a million votes, one vote, that there's a reality in this world,

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right? God is a God of reality. He invented reality in case you wanted to know who did that. That was

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God. So when Bonhoeffer saw that the church in Germany, right, Hitler took control in early 1933,

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Bonhoeffer could see if the church rises against this evil. Now, a lot of people they didn't see it

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as evil. A lot of people were deluded. Just like people today are deluded. People in the church

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are deluded today. They don't know. They don't get it. Bonhoeffer was trying to wake them up.

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And he knew that they had like a year and a half or two years. Literally, that was it.

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to silence churches, to wipe out the opposition, it was lightning speed. And he knew that at some point,

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it's over. So literally by about 1935, it was over, even before that. It was over. So Bonhoeffer was

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trying to wake up the church. The windows closing. And he knows eventually, they didn't stand.

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They did not stand. And we know today, I mean, if you read Letter to the American Church in particular,

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or Bonhoeffer, or the new book, Religionless Christianity, you know what happened, right? That

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at some point, I think he has Lewis said it, that God wants us to say that I will be done to him.

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But at some point, if we don't do that, he says to us, at some point, okay, they will be done.

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Like, it's yours. You rejected me, and now we're going to see what you have wrought.

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evil. We don't know if it's evil. Who's to say? It's complicated. It's nuanced.

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Because guess what? They really believed that. You can really, really believe stupid evil things.

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You know, you think Hitler thought I'm a bad guy? No. Evil is deceiving, right? So people can

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do evil things, and they don't know. So Bonhoeffer saw by 1935, it's over. The church said we're not

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interested in this, but we don't do politics. And he's like, well, is that a biblical idea?

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A lot of people kind of assume it's a biblical idea. I had a, I literally spoke to a pastor,

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he was a yesterday, a hugely important pastor. He's now retired, but I love this man. This is

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an amazing man. But he said to me on the phone, I didn't want to argue with him, I didn't have

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the energy. But he said to me on the phone, I would never endorse a political candidate,

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and who'd never endorse a political party. And he sounded very pious when he said that. And I'm

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thinking like, are you insane? But tons of pastors say that. Good pastors, this guy is one of the

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best, but he said that. And I thought, here's the problem, that's not biblical. But where did you

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get that idea that that's biblical? Where did you get that idea? If you imagine, it's 1850, okay?

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Slavery is on the ballot. And you say, we don't get into that in our church. We don't take a stand

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on slavery. Now today, we'd be like, that's nuts. Many, many pastors at that time, maybe because it

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didn't affect them. It was very convenient to say, we don't get into that. Well, God gets into that.

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That's a moral issue, but they say, we don't do politics. We just do church. That's the devil's

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kind of church, folks, that will not take a stand on slavery. But we're living through something now.

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It's the same thing. Evil comes up and says, oh, that's too political. So this pastor yesterday

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says this to me, and I was like, I just didn't want to get into it with him because I know he thinks

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right on all the issues, but he actually said, but I would never publicly endorse a candidate,

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or I would never publicly endorse a party. I'm thinking, nobody's telling you to worship a candidate,

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and nobody's telling you to worship a political party. Nobody's telling you to make an idol of politics.

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Every idol is satanic. You don't make an idol, but to say that you won't take a stand that you

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won't want to, why? Because you're afraid, you lose your 501C3 tax system. Is that why? You make

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it sound biblical, but it's because you're afraid the government will come after you. Do you ever

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occur to you? The government is wrong. Did it ever occur to you that that's not biblical? That's not

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even, it doesn't even square with our constitution, but you've just accepted it as a pastor because

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all pastors, no, we don't take a stand on that. We don't get political. We don't, I'm thinking,

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how can you, how can you say that? You don't make an idol of politics, but that has the devil

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gaslit you into thinking you don't talk politics. If slavery is on the ballot, you're going to say,

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we don't get into that, but there are many people who said that in the 1850s. There are many people

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that would not advocate publicly for Abraham Lincoln. Now, I would argue is because they didn't

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care if the slaves suffer. They just didn't care, but they wrapped it up in a nice religious bow.

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Oh, we just do church. Well, if you did God's church, if you were the church, you would stick

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your neck out and you wouldn't care what happens to you because you want to advocate for what God

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is advocating for. That slavery is a satanic abomination and they usually do everything in your

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power and people say, oh, you're being political. You'd be like, yeah, whatever.

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Shut up because I'm going to do what God told me to do. Don't try to gaslight me into being silent,

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but this and folks, you can always use those kind of arguments against religious people. I use

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religion in the negative sense, right? Oh, I'm so religious. All you need to do is call me a name,

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call me a Christian nationalist. Oh, okay, I'll shut up. Or call me a racist, right? It's like,

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are you a racist? You're not. Well, then why do you care if somebody called you a racist?

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But if you care that much about that, what do you do with God called you to do? And if you do

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what God called you to, I don't think you'll be doing anything racist, okay? But people will shut

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you down because that's the cup of that is never changed. And in Barnhofer's day, there would be

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kind of like, well, if you're getting involved, so you're not with the fewer or you're not with

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Germany or you don't care about Germany. You know, it's just to kind of bully people into silence.

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rise. And it did. And now we can all sit here and we don't pat ourselves on the back. Oh,

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if I was there, I wouldn't have done that. But we're doing it today, okay? Because, because no,

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we're not going to, we're not, none of us is guilty of thinking maybe Hitler's okay, not today.

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But in 1934 in Germany, you didn't know where that was going. You might not know. You can,

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I'm going to play it safe. I'm going to sit on the sidelines. I don't want to get, I want to stick

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my neck out. Well, usually part of that is also just a pure lack of faith. Because if you really

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believe the God of the scriptures, now listen to this, if you really believe in the God of

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scriptures, you don't fear death. Now, why don't you fear death? Because you actually know,

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he defeated death on the cross and you'll never die. So even if they kill you, you don't die.

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Now, if you don't believe that, you're not really a Christian. A lot of Christians are kind of

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hedging that. Like, I don't know, I don't want any trouble. I don't want any trouble. The Lord calls

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us to trouble. The Lord wants trouble to be afraid of us because he is inside us as we walk into the

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battle. You just heard this in the last song. It is that where God is in the battle, okay?

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So what that means is, if you're going through hell, something's going on in your life,

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you know God is there. But let me, let me flip it and say, if everything's fine in your life,

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you need to find a battle. Now, is there, well, I don't want the, I don't want the battle. It's like,

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you don't understand. God is in the battle. God created you and saved you to go into the battle.

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Because you bring him into the battle. So if there's injustice in the world, you're saying, well,

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I don't want to bother. I don't want to, you know, let other people suffer. The Lord called you.

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He died for you to go into the battle. So when you see evil out there, the Lord calls you to the

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battle. And it means all kinds of stuff. And sometimes it means getting involved politically,

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right? And others, if you say, well, I don't care who gets elected, you know, that's not,

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that's not a gospel related issue. You want to bet that's not a gospel related issue.

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First of all, we are now dealing, I didn't say this in the earlier service, but you know,

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it's kind of funny, like people buy into an idea and it's a good idea at the time,

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but you understand the times change. So the certain things that never change, but there are other

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things. I mean, in 1985, you know, the face of the Democratic Party was tip O'Neill. Now,

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there's only a few people here old enough to remember tip O'Neill. But it's kind of like, it's

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another world. So when somebody says, well, I'm a Democrat, I'm going to, you'd be like, yeah,

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you know, we can, we can disagree on a lot of stuff. But when the face of the Democratic Party

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becomes Marxist atheism, now you got a problem. Now, I hope you understand this doesn't mean

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that everybody in the Republican Party is doing the right thing. Very, very, very far from the truth.

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There are many wicked people that are not advocating for God's principles in the Republican Party.

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But I got to tell you what the Democratic Party has become. Now, a lot of people just don't know

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this. And I realize they don't know that. And so, in a sense, they kind of look at you like,

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well, what are you talking about? But if you're paying any attention, what's being advocated now

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on a staggering level is Marxist atheism. It's not FDR's party. It's not JFK's party.

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They were patriots. They believed in America. They believed in all the stuff that everybody believes

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in. Over the decades, that has changed. And you have to acknowledge that. And you have

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to acknowledge that, first of all, we're never going to make an idol of politics. You know, I said

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that. Of course not. But to say I'm not going to do politics, you understand that's exactly what

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the church said in the 30s in Germany. He said, we don't want to get into that. There's evil rising.

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And fighting that evil part of that means being political. So, there's nothing in the scripture

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contrary to what many pastors think. This is if we don't do politics. Many of the best pastors and

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men of God throughout history have done a lot of politics. Can you imagine? Can you, I mean, just

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just think for a second, this country never would have come into being, if not for what we now

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call the Black Robe Regiment. Okay, these were pastors who are thundering from their pulpits about

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freedom versus tyranny. Didn't get more political than that. They were trying to overthrow a tyrannous

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British system, right? The pastors around the time of a civil war, they were thundering against

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slavery. And of course they were advocating for political candidate because there was one who

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was against slavery and there was one who was not. But then he said, well, we don't want to do politics.

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How could you not? How could you not advocate for God's purposes? So we're living in a time now

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where God is calling us to stand against evil. And sometimes that means being political. And

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this lie that we're not supposed to be political, I'll tell you, there was a tweet put out by

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a very well-known Christian rapper the other day, just the other day. And he had,

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that's what I'm talking about. And in the past he's been very politically liberal, right?

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But what you often find people saying who are advocating for bringing ungodly values to bear

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on politics, they hide behind the idea that we're not supposed to be political, right? Because they

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know that if you are saying, oh, let's not do politics, secular Marxist atheism wins. If the

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church would just step back, don't be political. These values over here will come in and fill that

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vacuum, right? So in this tweet, he was saying something like, which sounds so nice, it's so religious,

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right? Saying something like, well, we don't, we don't need to worry about who is elected. You know,

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God is on his throne. You've heard that one, right? Sounds very religious. Oh, God is on his throne.

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So don't worry about who's elected. Yeah, when Hitler's elected, I think you should be worried.

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Is God on his throne? Yeah, God's on his throne, but it's pretty irrelevant to all the Jews that are

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being gassed, right? So in other words, God is on his throne, no matter what, we praise the Lord,

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no matter what, we praise the Lord, no matter what, but it doesn't mean we don't do something

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if God gives us the opportunity to do something. Okay? I don't know if you realize, but I mean,

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I think I said in the last service, but the book, letter to the American church originally,

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the title of that was faith without works as dead, because that's a very important concept.

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It's all that he's saying. It's about faith, it's about faith, it's about faith. Faith without

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works as dead, you're supposed to act, all right? David killed Goliath and cut off his head.

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He needed to say, oh, God's on his throne. Look, Goliath, do his thing.

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Now, but that sounds so holy, right? Oh, God has on his throne, praise the Lord. I'm all about

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the kingdom. Well, if you're not about this world, you're probably not about the kingdom.

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You're not, you're not given a choice. Again, it's this very religious sounding choice. Like,

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I'm all about the kingdom. I'm not about America. Where did you get the idea, except from the devil

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that you had to choose? You're supposed to bring kingdom values into how you live in America.

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That's the Lord's will. That's why we have kingdom values. And we're still here in this world

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is to bring those values to bear to the extent that we can, right? We don't force people,

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but we advocate. We do what we can for what is right and good and true. So this idea that,

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oh, I'm all about kingdom values, because if I'm about America, that's Christian nationalism.

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Christian nationalism is the devil's term for actual Christianity.

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Live, lived out. You live it out, right? You know, patriots died so you could vote.

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They died, right? We're sitting here having a church service. Patriots died, fought and died.

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So that we could be free. We could vote. We could advocate for God's purposes politically

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in every other way. And people are like, no, no, no, I'm just about the kingdom.

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Well, again, if you're about the kingdom, you're going to bring kingdom values to bear in this

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world because you have the ability to do that. You didn't have the ability in the first century

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Rome to advocate politically. You couldn't do that, but people have died so that we could have a

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country where we govern ourselves and we could actually vote for people that we believe best

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represent us. Not they certainly don't represent us perfectly, okay? But if you say, oh, I don't

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care about that, then people who definitely don't represent you will come in and will bring the

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devil's values in and they will do really evil to people that Jesus loves, okay? Trans children,

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okay? They call them trenches. No such thing, okay? But the point is that you've got to care about

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them. You've got to care about what's being done to them. And people in the world, they don't know

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what to think. They're lost. They don't know that the scripture says we're creating God's image

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male and female. That's it. They don't know that. So they're like, who knows? I don't know,

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science. It's all very confusing. Well, you have to advocate because we know and we're obliged

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to speak out and God wants us to speak out and to advocate. And the idea that you need to choose

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between the kingdom of heaven or America, again, that's a devil's choice. That's not God's choice.

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That's like saying, like, you love Jesus, right? Because of that, you can't love your spouse.

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Easy. Carefully. You've got to choose. Hey, you've got to choose. Well, if I love the Lord,

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it's going to make me love my spouse more, not less. So this lie that you've got to choose,

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it's like, you love your family carefully. You can make an idol. Careful. Don't love them too much.

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You understand? This is satanic twisting of God's truth. So we're living in a time right now

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where the Lord wants us to be alive to what he's saying in history. And I don't have time to go

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into it. Maybe another time, honestly, I would love to come back and tell you, but I wrote a book

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called Is atheism Dead about science pointing to God on a level that would blow your mind. I mean,

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if you read the book, I think I'm laughing because Richard said that you can get all six books for

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$60. They're like, I think we're all losing money on that, Rich. I don't know what you're doing

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there. But, but that book alone, okay? Which again, I can preach on some other time, but I'll tell you,

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the evidence from science pointing to God, it is insane. It's overwhelming. I believe that the

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Lord wants his church to wake up and to advocate for his purposes and to make it possible for us in

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this country to have a new birth of freedom, to use the words of Abraham Lincoln, a new birth of

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freedom that we would see people blessed because I'm just here to say that when the church gets

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involved in politics and everything, can I tell you what? Other people will be blessed. Slavery

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will be abolished. Roe v. Wade might get overturned in the future. Oh, it happened, yeah.

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You know what people said to me? That will never happen. Don't vote in 2016. That'll never happen.

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That's Pine the Sky. You are nuts. That's not going to happen. I think it happened. Oh, good.

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People said, as I was growing up, the Soviet Union, that will never go away. That will never go away.

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We will never see the iron curtain go away. We will never see the people in those countries be free.

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That's never going to happen. East Germany will always be East Germany. That's where all my relatives

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were. It went away. You have no idea what God can do and will do. And the only way that none of

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these things will happen is if the church does nothing. Let me just close with this. At the end of

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the book, the sequel to the Letter to the Microchurch Religions Christianity, I say, if you went to

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George Washington in 1776 at the beginning of the revolution and you said to him, hey, George,

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how's it going? He would say, I'll tell you how it's going. It's going very, very, very poorly.

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It's going very poorly. It happened right here on this island, the Battle of Long Island,

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the Battle of Brooklyn. We should have been wiped out, murdered in the cradle before we got to

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do anything. If you asked him, how's it going in 1776? He would have said in the natural, right? It's

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going extremely poorly. And so a lot of people, a lot of religious people say, well, I guess God has

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decided. I guess it's over. I guess it's just time to go to the go to the go to the cellar,

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get out the slim gyms and the water purification. Jesus will be here in 10 minutes. Jesus coming,

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it's over. It's over. There's nothing you can do. That's the voice of the devil. There's

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nothing you can do. Don't fight. Don't fight. Just sit on your hands, don't do anything. So George

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Washington, at the time, knew that it was going very poorly. He knew that, but I believe he would have

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said it's going poorly, but if Providence, Capitol P, if God be with us in this cause of liberty,

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we will fight on and fight on and fight on. And if he gives us a victory, that's up to him,

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but it's up to us whether we fight on. And if the Lord calls you to fight for something and it looks

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like a losing battle, I think if you've read this scripture, you understand that's when God does

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His best work. So I'm here to tell you in America right now and in the world, things look bad.

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But if God's people will respond, if God's people will shake off these shackles, these lies,

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these religious lies, I said, don't get involved. Don't get involved. That's the voice of the

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devil, folks. God wants you to take your faith into every sphere for His purposes, not for your

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purposes, not for America's purposes, for His purposes, but He has called us to that. And I ask you

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to open your heart to how He would use you in that because He will use you. It's what He made

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you for. He called you to enter the battle because that's where He is. Praise the Lord. God bless you.

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