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So let's face it, getting other people to do what you want is arguably the most important

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skill because if you have that one skill that unlocks every other skill that every other

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person potentially has, the problem is other people don't always do what you want them

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to do.

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So I'm going to share a five step framework that I call the star system that you can use

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whether you're a business owner or you work within a business to influence other people.

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So let's dive into it.

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Thanks to everyone, welcome back to the game where we talk about making money so that

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we can eventually question the meaning of life to begin with.

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And today I've got a fun little star system, very tactical, fundamentally the thing that

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separates your business's growth from happening is people doing stuff that you want them

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to do.

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And I have a little five star system that has worked very well for me to have very direct

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conversations that in no way feel direct and have really, really helped a ton.

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And I would show this framework to every one of the people who works for you so that they

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know what you're going to be going through.

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And then it should become almost like a, it's just, it's almost like an unspoken language

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or performance management.

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And so when you walk through all five of these, you can remember them very easily.

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And you can run through it in five seconds with a teammate who's not performing the way

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you want to.

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So with that being said, enjoy.

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So I want to read you a real exchange I had with an employee that wasn't performing the

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way I wanted them to.

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I said, Hey, what are you doing today?

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And then he gave me his little rundown.

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And I said, I asked because I haven't felt like I've seen a lot of production from you compared

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to what I think you're capable of.

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So I'm curious whether it's not knowing what to do.

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That I want you to do it, how to do it or that something's preventing you.

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Or if you're not motivated to be above.

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And by fraying with that way, it completely shifts the whole vibe of the conversation.

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And by adding the piece, and I think this is really key in terms of how I was framed,

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it's just like compared to what I believe you're capable of.

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So I basically weaving in a compliment saying, I think you're capable of more.

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I think your potential is significantly higher rather than saying, Hey, you suck.

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I'm actually saying, Hey, I think you're awesome.

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And I think your performance, which is separate from you as a human being, is below what I believe

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you're capable of.

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So what do we think the gap is?

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Is that you know that?

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How?

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What?

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When?

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Or you're not, or something's blocking you?

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Or you're not motivated?

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Help me help you.

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And from this perspective, both of you are basically attacking the problem on the same

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side of the table, trying to figure out how to get the person to their potential, which

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both of you are aligned to have happened.

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And I'm telling you, it's just like, imagine if I had started that being like, Hey,

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man, you're at your subpar right now, you're under expectations.

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Like that sounds pretty bad, right?

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And that everyone's going to be defensive.

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They're going to be thinking it's attacking their character when it couldn't be further

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from the truth.

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And so having little frameworks like this have just like made life so much easier for

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getting people back to where you want them to be.

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So let's paint the scene.

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You say, Hey, Kyle, I need you to make me that TPS report by Monday.

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Fine.

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You said that.

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Monday comes.

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Kyle doesn't have the TPS report.

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What do you do?

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Now, normally you could be like, I could yell at Kyle, yeah, be like, what the hell, Kyle,

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whatever, right?

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But the thing is, there's a lot of people who don't confront people who work for them

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because they're afraid of pissing them off because they're afraid of losing influence.

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Like, Hey, if I bring it up, I don't want things to be weird.

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And so being able to have these kind of confrontational conversations and having a framework around

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it has made it so much easier for me to have really good conversations that don't in

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any way attack the other person, all right?

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And so thinking through this framework is how I do it.

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And so I'm going to make this really simple because it has to be simple.

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It was never going to use it, all right?

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And so it's called a star because there's five points to the star and there's really

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a five points that you work through when you're figuring out why they didn't do something.

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And so the first thing is, Hey, Kyle, and I set this frame so the people who work from

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you already know that I have this room.

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So I don't think you need to keep this a secret.

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I mean, listen, there's only five reasons someone doesn't do anything.

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It's either number one, you didn't know that I wanted you to do it.

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So did you know that I wanted you to give me that TPS report?

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And he might be like, Oh, I thought we were just talking.

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Now you might hear that and think, wow, Kyle, what an insignificant or what an arrogant

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ass, right?

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No, but like, let's be real for a second.

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Like you probably don't follow up on a lot of stuff that you tell people to do.

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And what do you think people learn?

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They learn that if you don't follow up, it's like, Oh, it probably wasn't that important

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to him.

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So probably maybe as an entrepreneur, have a lot of ideas.

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And if someone actually acted on every single thing that you said, they would have a mountain

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of stuff.

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They wouldn't be able to do their normal job, right?

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And so they kind of just like wait for you to maybe cool off on the idea for a second.

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And if you mention it two, three, four, five times, they're like, Okay, this is something

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I actually have to do, right?

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And so the solution for the that problem is you write it.

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All right.

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And so one of the things that we have in total acquisition.com is if it isn't written,

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it never happened.

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Right.

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So if you just have a verbal conversation that exists IRL just in the air, it doesn't

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ever matter because no one has proof of it.

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You don't have proof of it.

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They don't remember it.

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You remember it differently than them.

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And so this is why crystallizing those experiences so important because then you can

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point back to it.

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Now, everyone's on the same page.

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Hey, I thought you said you want me to send you the KPIs by Monday.

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And it's like, no, I said the TPS report.

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It's like, Oh, well, I hear the KPIs.

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It's like, that's not what I asked for.

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But how do we know?

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Maybe you did say KPIs.

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You thought like, how many times have you said something?

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You thought you said something different.

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Have a little time.

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Right.

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And so number one, figure out, set the frame that these are the five reasons and be like,

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Hey, Kyle, you didn't do it.

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There's five reasons.

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I'm just doing anything.

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So did you not know that I wanted to do it?

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If it says, I didn't know, then you're like, great.

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Problem solved.

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I'm going to write it down next time.

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Here we go.

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I'm going to write down for you right now.

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And if you want, I'm going to memorialize this with an email and send it to you that way

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we have a timestamp and everything.

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But what if he's like, Oh, no, I knew that you wanted me to do it.

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I was like, Oh, well, then did you not know how to do it?

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So once it was like, Okay, Kyle, did you not know that?

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I wanted to do it.

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They might be like, Okay, yeah, I did know that.

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But then did you not know what I wanted you to do?

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Because he did send me something that, Okay, what's the that versus the what?

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Let me explain.

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So two things don't always mean the same things.

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And it's like, what does that even mean?

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Well, you want to define what you're asking someone to do in terms of behavior or outcomes.

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So if I wanted that TPS report, right, now that's a really simple example, I would probably

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be like, well, when I say like, give me that, I was like, does that mean it's going to

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be printed out?

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Does that mean I want to print it on my desk?

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Does that mean it's an email?

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Does that mean it's going to be like, like verbally given to me?

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Is it going to means a presentation in what format?

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And the thing is just like, you might hear this and be like, Oh, that sounds like such

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a pain.

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It probably takes like two or three extra minutes for you to be like, very clear.

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And then someone's going to take that two or three extra minutes and then save themselves

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like two or three extra hours.

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And so it's high leverage, like clarity is high leverage work, right?

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And so like, I would say that if this is something that makes you uncomfortable, you need

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to break that habit for real.

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Let me explain why.

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How do you think AI works?

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What do you think prompt engineering is such a high leverage skill right now?

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Because the problem is no one even knows how to communicate.

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Like you have this ultimate being, or whatever you want to call it, right?

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You've got this thing of ultimate intelligence that can do things incredibly quickly as access

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to the world's information.

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And yet you can't get AI to do stuff for you.

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It's not because AI is dumb, because you don't want to talk to AI.

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And if you can't talk to AI, you can't talk to a human, right?

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AI honestly has more context and more like tries to waste to figure out what you're trying

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to say because we communicate like monkeys, right?

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The thing is when we're communicating with other monkeys, we got to be as crystal clear

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as humanly possible.

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Now, what's interesting is that the bigger the organization gets, the more this banana

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foundation becomes a problem.

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And so this little five, this little five system, the star system, I run through it in

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my head all the time, right?

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Did they not know that?

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I want them to do it.

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Did I?

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Did that know what I wanted them to do, which I defined in terms of behaviors or outcomes

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and you need, I need this thing on my desk by Monday printed out with that nice paper.

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It's, I need you to, when someone says this, say this instead next time, right?

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Not be less of a dick or, you know, you know, stop harassing Courtney.

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It's like, well, what does harassing Courtney look like?

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He obviously isn't trying to harass Courtney.

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She might describe his behavior as harassing.

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He might describe his behavior as being cordial.

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So now what happens until you actually break down the behavior that they're both labeling

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differently, he's saying, hey, I said good morning to her.

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She's saying, hey, he's hitting on me.

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And you're like, well, what the hell, like, what's going on?

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But until you figure out, wait, Courtney, when you say he's hitting on you, what exactly

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did he do?

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It was just like, we always like smiles at me in waves when he comes in.

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It's like, I don't think he's hitting on you, Courtney.

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I think he's being polite, right?

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And you might, on the flip side, it's like, what do you think hitting on you is?

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It's like, he always squeezes my ass when he walks by.

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It's like, well, that's a fucking problem, right?

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And so, like, let's be clear here, Mike, you shouldn't squeeze anybody's ass.

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Let alone a girl.

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All right?

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On the flip side, like, you go to the saying here, but like, if we say, like, if we

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say he's hitting on me or be less creepy, no one knows what it means, because one person

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thinks they're trying to do something like, no one wakes up and says, I want to be creepy

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today.

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No one does that.

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Creepy people act in ways that they don't think is creepy.

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And so by telling them to stop be creepy, they don't know what the fuck that means.

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That's the problem.

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And this is why we have to describe the, as might be one of the best explanations I've

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given of this.

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This, like, this is the problem.

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And this is why so many people behave in ways that they don't want to, not because they

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don't want to do a good job, but because they don't know what doing a good job looks

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like because they hasn't been topped enough.

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And so you just got to tell them, right?

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And so, number one, they didn't know that.

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They want to do it.

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If they did know that you're like, hey, you know, be nice to Courtney.

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He did.

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He grabbed Courtney's ass rather than saying, hello, right?

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He didn't know what to do, right?

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So if he did know those two things, well, what's the third thing that could be the issue?

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Okay, well, they do that.

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They wanted the TPS report and they knew how to deliver it.

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They knew that.

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They knew the TPS report and they knew exactly what it was.

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Well, then why didn't, why didn't it happen?

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Well, did they know how to do it?

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So I told you to do that, but I was like, honestly, you asked me to, but I don't know how

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to put a TPS report together.

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And I'm like, wait, I didn't, like, you didn't get that in on-boarding?

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It's like, honestly, no.

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It's like, oh, okay, well, the solution to this is training.

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And all you do, by the way, if you're like, man, and I, like, this drives me absolutely

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insane is that I will hear people say, you know, these things aren't trainable.

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Everything is trainable.

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How do you think a baby learns how to do anything?

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How do you think humans learn things to begin with?

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It's just that some things are more trainable, take longer to train than others.

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And it's not even that a specific thing takes longer to train.

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It's just that that term has more skills underneath of it that ladder up to the larger

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thing, meaning if I say be kind, be kind has like 500 behaviors underneath of it.

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And so yeah, it's harder to train aptitude than attitude because attitude is 500 behaviors

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aptitude might be 20.

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And so yes, it is easier to train this than that, but it's not that something isn't trainable.

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And this is why specificity is so important.

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And so we have to do is like, okay, if you don't know how to do it, what part do you

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not know how to do it?

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Do you not know how to turn on a computer?

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Do you not know how to turn on the internet?

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Do you not know how to send an email?

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Do you not know how to use Excel?

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Boom, underneath that.

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Do you not know where the data is?

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That you need to extract this from?

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Then once you have the data, do you not know how to format it?

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So now instead of being like, oh, this guy's an idiot, it's just like, he knew how to do

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eight of the nine steps.

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You just couldn't do the last step.

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So now I can say cool.

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Let me show you how to format it.

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And from here on out, when I ask you for a TPS report, this one I'm looking for.

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Make sense?

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Now let me give you a little approach to the higher, the general skill and competence

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of the individual, the greater the expertise of the person in the domain, the more vague

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you can be with your directions.

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All right, so let me explain.

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So if someone comes to me and says, hey, I've got this product, this new marker, and it

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writes upside down, and it's invisible ink, it's amazing.

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Alex, can you build a business around this?

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I could just say yes, because I have all the other skills that take us to build a business.

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Now if you go to somebody who might be less skilled, you might have just said, hey, can

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you make a marketing campaign around this?

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Now that person probably might not be able to set up the end of the structure at a tax

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efficient manner, or be able to source the materials, or be able to set up HR practices

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and all this other stuff, but they could do the marketing campaign, and you might be

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able to go to a good marketer and say, hey, can you run a good marketing campaign?

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They say sure.

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Now if you go to a junior marketer, you'd be like, hey, can you run a marketing campaign?

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They'd be like, okay, can you write some emails about this?

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We just keep chunking it down, and so the more skilled the person, the vaguer, the instructions

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can be, the less skilled the person, the more specific it has to be, and for anything

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around trading, I talk about this length, but basically document, demonstrate, duplicate,

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which means that I do it in front of you, I write it down, I do it in front of you, you

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do it in front of me, and then sign on it.

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That's how it works, right?

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So we create the list, is me doing it.

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I observe myself, or someone observes me doing it, puts the list down, I then do that

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list in front of the person, they do that list in front of me, and then we have a great

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day, right?

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And so with the TPS report, I say, hey, here's the step for formatting, I'm going to write

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them down, and then I'm going to do those steps in front of them, and then I'm say, hey,

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let's do a second TPS report for next week, we can do it together, they do it in front

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of me, following the exact same steps I wrote down, they did it, skills transferred, and

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now next time I ask for the TPS report, it'll be on time.

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You guys are amazing, I can't believe you guys keep sharing this, it's like, it's going

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nuts right now, we've had record ones back to back, and it's all because of you, and

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so I just want to thank you guys so much again for sharing the podcast, it's why I keep

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doing this, and yeah, so if you can text it to a friend, or an enemy, slack it to maybe

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a work rival, or just slack it to a work friend, that works as well, or share this on the

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brim to the many strangers who follow you, so that they too can grow enlightened by business

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principles, or just share it because you feel like it, anyway, I love you all, and I

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enjoy the rest of the fun.

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All right, so slight recap, first we figure out if they knew even that we wanted them to

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do it, second we made sure that they knew what we wanted them to do, and the third it's

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like, okay, if they know those two, then do they even know how to do it, now if they

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do, then did they know, and this is a big one which happens all the time, is did they

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know when I wanted it done by, and this sounds so silly, but the reality is that the solution

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for this is deadlines, right, and so let me, but it's not just deadlines, I'm going to give

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you a little little two or one version of this.

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If I say, hey Kyle, when can you get me the TPS reports by, he might say Monday, now

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a boss or leader or whatever, who doesn't pay as much attention, might just say, short,

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that sounds good, I like to push on this, and I say, cool, how long do you think it will

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take you in order to get the TPS report done, the actual work itself, not from now until

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you can deliver it, but how long will the work take, and usually someone will say something

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like, I don't know, probably like two hours, I'm like, okay, well, it's Wednesday and

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it's two o'clock, what are you doing between now and four o'clock?

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Now if they have something that's more important, then they can be like, well, I have to finish

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this thing by tomorrow, and then I've got this other thing that I'm going to do, and then

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that should take a full day, and then after that, I've got this thing, and then after

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that, I was planning on working on it over the weekend so I could get it to you by Monday.

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That I'd be like, okay, that makes sense.

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Now if I look at all those other things, I might find out a couple of things.

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Number one is, maybe they don't have all these other things, in which case, we'll do this

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now, and maybe they do have all these other things, but this thing is more important,

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in which case, do it now.

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And so the thing is, is that by consistently asking when they can do it, how long it will

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take, and then what else they have going on, allows you to have a way better idea of

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everyone else's workload in real time, whenever asking people, and also, it just makes

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you way better boss in my opinion, because if people are like, oh, I've got these, you're

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like, oh, no, finish that.

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That's more important.

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Do that first.

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After this, we'll do my thing.

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And this is kind of, I would say a pervasive mindset that I have, that's, I'll write it down

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because I think it's cool, but basically, end of day is better than end of week.

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I want end of day to be my default.

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I want everyone's default in my life to be end of day.

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And think about how impactful this is.

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If you just assume whatever you ask for anything, that it should be done by end of day, your

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organization will move at seven times the speed.

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Like some organizations like, their default is end of month, end of week.

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This is like, an end of month organization will literally work at one thirtieth of the

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pace of an end of day organization.

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And you might think, oh, my God, that's crazy.

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But do you think that some companies grow 30 times faster than others?

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Hell yeah, there are.

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And this is why the rich care richer and the poor get poor.

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And there's the great divide between the doers and everyone else is because you really

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can't outwork someone a thousand times.

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You really can't, I can put out a thousand times work out something new.

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I really can't, I can do that.

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We can work that, but we can work a thousand times faster than you.

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If it takes you 90 days to get something done and we get it done in two hours, we worked

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a thousand times faster than you.

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It's crazy.

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And so then it shouldn't be as big of a surprise that some people out earn other people by

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a thousand times.

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And so I'm saying this, I'm trying to transfer this to you so that you can go get rich

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into what everyone.

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Because I'm going to die.

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And it was going to go fuck anyways, long term.

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And so like you might as well do something useful.

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And what's interesting about the star system that it actually creates stars because if

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you tell somebody and they are clear because you wrote it down, they know that they should

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do it.

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They understand the what that must be done accurately.

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They understand how to do the thing because you've done it with them before.

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They know how to do it your way and you've taught them you've broken it down.

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And then they'll be able to do it faster because they've absolutely clarity on this point.

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And this is what starts to really move an organization.

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And so the other pro tip is that Jeff Bezos has an amazing one pager that I tweeted about

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not that long ago.

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And it was almost like the theme of the month for me.

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But he basically takes Richard, an excerpt from Richard Dawkins talking about biology

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that basically biology fights against this environment to stand out, right?

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On a long time horizon, once something dies, it basically merges with this environment.

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Like it becomes inseparable on a long time horizon, like you just become dirt, like literally

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you become the same thing.

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And the thing is is that it takes energy, a tremendous amount of energy to stand out to

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be different.

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And so things is that the world will try to pull you down, pull you into mediocrity and

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the same thing happens within companies.

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Like the trend line is regression towards the mean that exists for a reason.

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You have to basically be willing to be so potent as a person that a drop of you into an

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ocean of clear water turns the entire clear water the same color as you.

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And fundamentally, that is what disseminating culture is from a leadership perspective.

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Like that is how great organizations are built.

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And so you have to hold the fucking line.

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That means that like every time I'm on a meeting, if we're driving something, the key

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word is that we're driving it.

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Like I was actually talking to one of my leaders on the company, early to day and last

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week about this.

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So I was like, I want you to replace the word leader.

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And I want you to switch it with a driver in your mind.

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I was like, because that's what I need.

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I need people who drive.

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And it's not like you're a slave driver.

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The point is that you're driving things to get done.

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It's like, hey, where is that?

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How can we do it faster?

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What else can I pull off your plate, which I'm already giving you a little bit of pre-framing

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for the fifth and maybe the most important part of the star, which is if someone knows

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that, they need to do it.

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They know what they're supposed to do.

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They know how to do it.

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They know what is do by what's the last thing that could stop them.

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And I'm going to take a motivation out of this and I'll tell you why.

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But the last thing that could stop them is circumstances.

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Now what does that mean?

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It means something else.

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So if I actually do all that stuff that you're like, but dude, you asked me to do 10 other

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things.

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So something else got in the way, an obstacle.

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Something is blocking them, right?

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If I asked the best chef in the world, hey, can you make me an omelette?

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You know how to make an omelette?

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I was like, you know, what an omelette is?

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You know how to make it?

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And I want you to make it for me right now.

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That guy might not do it.

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I'd be like, why didn't you make me an omelette?

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You might be like, I don't have any eggs.

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We want me to do I don't have any eggs, right?

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And to the same degree in a real business setting, it might be like, I don't have the ram

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on my laptop to be able to process this size file and edit this thing on time.

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I have to get this other thing or I have to move to this other place and that's going

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to take some time.

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Right?

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00:22:18.040 --> 00:22:19.800
Like, there's some things that sometimes block people.

462
00:22:19.800 --> 00:22:22.760
Now the reason this is so important, and this is the one, I'll tell you what.

463
00:22:22.760 --> 00:22:23.760
See you right now.

464
00:22:23.760 --> 00:22:26.840
We go through the other four first because as soon as you mentioned this fifth one, everyone

465
00:22:26.840 --> 00:22:28.360
blames this one because why?

466
00:22:28.360 --> 00:22:30.200
Because then it's not that, right?

467
00:22:30.200 --> 00:22:33.320
And so people's egos are protected when they say, Oh, I've got this other thing.

468
00:22:33.320 --> 00:22:34.320
I got this other work.

469
00:22:34.320 --> 00:22:35.320
I got this.

470
00:22:35.320 --> 00:22:36.320
I don't have eggs.

471
00:22:36.320 --> 00:22:37.320
I don't have a Wi-Fi.

472
00:22:37.320 --> 00:22:38.520
I don't have a blah, blah, blah.

473
00:22:38.520 --> 00:22:43.440
Now this is where this is where the real leadership start comes in because this is where

474
00:22:43.440 --> 00:22:48.720
we say like, well, how hard would it have been for you to go get eggs?

475
00:22:48.720 --> 00:22:50.440
It's been three days.

476
00:22:50.440 --> 00:22:55.640
Like how hard was it to get eggs?

477
00:22:55.640 --> 00:22:57.280
The Wi-Fi was slow.

478
00:22:57.280 --> 00:23:00.960
Was there any way to get faster Wi-Fi?

479
00:23:00.960 --> 00:23:06.120
And so this is where I start to make judgments on someone's agency, their ability to solve

480
00:23:06.120 --> 00:23:08.480
problems on their own.

481
00:23:08.480 --> 00:23:16.440
Because the thing that we always want to tease out long-term is this, why?

482
00:23:16.440 --> 00:23:17.440
Right?

483
00:23:17.440 --> 00:23:18.680
Because that's the big motivation question.

484
00:23:18.680 --> 00:23:20.880
Because you'd assume why didn't someone do it?

485
00:23:20.880 --> 00:23:22.320
Because they weren't motivated.

486
00:23:22.320 --> 00:23:26.280
The thing is, is that I can, me asking someone, Hey, were you not motivated to do this,

487
00:23:26.280 --> 00:23:28.920
no one's going to say, I'm just being real, it's not going to happen.

488
00:23:28.920 --> 00:23:29.920
Right?

489
00:23:29.920 --> 00:23:30.920
And so we asked these other questions.

490
00:23:30.920 --> 00:23:36.640
The first four are what I would consider very standard business practices.

491
00:23:36.640 --> 00:23:41.480
But the here's the thing that's really clever with this is that by asking the first four,

492
00:23:41.480 --> 00:23:46.480
you basically give many opportunities for it to not be attacked on the person.

493
00:23:46.480 --> 00:23:51.560
When you have the circumstances one, it also has realistic options where it might not

494
00:23:51.560 --> 00:23:52.560
be the person's fault.

495
00:23:52.560 --> 00:23:54.600
They might actually have too much stuff on their plate.

496
00:23:54.600 --> 00:23:59.760
But this is where the nuance comes in, where you get to judge, are those circumstances

497
00:23:59.760 --> 00:24:01.920
really the things that blocked you?

498
00:24:01.920 --> 00:24:03.400
Or are you actually not trying?

499
00:24:03.400 --> 00:24:07.720
Now with the, Hey, I just need an omelette by next Monday on my desk.

500
00:24:07.720 --> 00:24:11.880
And the person gets to you next Monday and says, I didn't have any eggs.

501
00:24:11.880 --> 00:24:14.320
What are we talking about here?

502
00:24:14.320 --> 00:24:16.240
I mean, your technique could be correct.

503
00:24:16.240 --> 00:24:18.600
If you have no eggs, you can't make an omelette.

504
00:24:18.600 --> 00:24:23.480
But do you lack the other skills of acquiring eggs?

505
00:24:23.480 --> 00:24:30.160
If you do, then we ask the larger question is, I know I could train you on how to get eggs,

506
00:24:30.160 --> 00:24:31.960
but is it worth the hassle?

507
00:24:31.960 --> 00:24:36.080
I got to train you on how to use computer, but is it worth the time?

508
00:24:36.080 --> 00:24:39.920
And so this is why this is my fundamental belief about training in general, which is that

509
00:24:39.920 --> 00:24:41.440
everything is trainable.

510
00:24:41.440 --> 00:24:44.480
It's just not everything's worth training.

511
00:24:44.480 --> 00:24:47.120
Some things you expect to have someone have batteries included, and that's why there

512
00:24:47.120 --> 00:24:48.360
are requisites for jobs.

513
00:24:48.360 --> 00:24:51.320
That's why when you go to school, you have to take English 101 before you take English

514
00:24:51.320 --> 00:24:53.120
201, right?

515
00:24:53.120 --> 00:24:56.560
Notwithstanding the fact that it's all retarded, but let's just like pretend it's useful.

516
00:24:56.560 --> 00:25:01.000
Well, English is useful, but let's, you get my point, all right?

517
00:25:01.000 --> 00:25:07.120
So the reason this is such a powerful frame is that if someone comes back and says something

518
00:25:07.120 --> 00:25:09.480
like, well, I didn't think that was my job.

519
00:25:09.480 --> 00:25:13.520
Well, then they probably shouldn't do anything else in your company either, right?

520
00:25:13.520 --> 00:25:17.240
Because fundamentally, like, what creates motivation?

521
00:25:17.240 --> 00:25:23.920
So motivation is the opposite of deprivation, but somebody who motivates other people is

522
00:25:23.920 --> 00:25:29.640
able to temporarily increase the value of an outcome, fundamentally as a motivation is.

523
00:25:29.640 --> 00:25:31.600
And if you think about that, that's also a persuasion is.

524
00:25:31.600 --> 00:25:32.600
That's also what sales is.

525
00:25:32.600 --> 00:25:34.800
And so there's a lot of words that fundamentally mean the same thing.

526
00:25:34.800 --> 00:25:37.040
If I motivate you to buy, that's what a salesman does.

527
00:25:37.040 --> 00:25:40.560
If I motivate you to move, I motivate you to change your behavior, I, for a short period

528
00:25:40.560 --> 00:25:44.560
of time, change the relative value of an outcome, which then changes your behavior.

529
00:25:44.560 --> 00:25:47.880
So if I talk to you and talk about your weight and you haven't done anything about losing

530
00:25:47.880 --> 00:25:52.200
weight in a very long time, but in a short period of time, I changed the relative value

531
00:25:52.200 --> 00:25:57.480
to you about what it might be like to lose weight or said differently, the pain associated

532
00:25:57.480 --> 00:25:58.480
with losing weight.

533
00:25:58.480 --> 00:26:01.440
You might have always wanted to lose weight, but didn't realize it could be easier, right?

534
00:26:01.440 --> 00:26:05.560
Or you might realize it's hard, but I realize I help explain even more value.

535
00:26:05.560 --> 00:26:09.520
Like hey, I don't know if you knew this, but you'll live 10 years longer, statistically,

536
00:26:09.520 --> 00:26:13.440
if you lose 50 pounds, then all of a sudden, you say your daughter's about to get married.

537
00:26:13.440 --> 00:26:15.200
Don't you want to see your kids, right?

538
00:26:15.200 --> 00:26:19.840
So my mother, side note, the only reason she lost weight was because the doctor told her

539
00:26:19.840 --> 00:26:22.000
that she wasn't going to see my grandkids.

540
00:26:22.000 --> 00:26:25.520
And that was the thing, try to lose weight or whole life, 30 fucking years, try to lose

541
00:26:25.520 --> 00:26:27.080
weight, couldn't do it.

542
00:26:27.080 --> 00:26:29.320
That was, that was the line, right?

543
00:26:29.320 --> 00:26:32.200
He was able to motivate her because that was the one thing for her.

544
00:26:32.200 --> 00:26:33.600
And so sometimes we have to dig through ourselves.

545
00:26:33.600 --> 00:26:37.800
Okay, what, what other things are we playing with that we can change the relative value

546
00:26:37.800 --> 00:26:40.440
of either decreasing the pain or increasing the carrot, right?

547
00:26:40.440 --> 00:26:44.720
Do you know, decreasing the stick or increasing the carrot associated with getting the stick?

548
00:26:44.720 --> 00:26:45.720
You know what I'm saying?

549
00:26:45.720 --> 00:26:46.800
I'll give you an example.

550
00:26:46.800 --> 00:26:52.000
So sometimes a salesperson will get tired of selling because it's the same conversation

551
00:26:52.000 --> 00:26:54.400
over and over again.

552
00:26:54.400 --> 00:26:58.080
And they will say they'll get bored.

553
00:26:58.080 --> 00:27:02.320
But there's a huge amount of time between the first time you get bored in sales and

554
00:27:02.320 --> 00:27:04.400
when you're exceptional in sales.

555
00:27:04.400 --> 00:27:09.760
And so explaining that in and of itself to a salesperson is that your ability to maintain

556
00:27:09.760 --> 00:27:15.120
focus is itself a skill that needs to be developed in order for you to become world

557
00:27:15.120 --> 00:27:18.040
class, which is what you said you wanted.

558
00:27:18.040 --> 00:27:24.240
And so sometimes just reframing their current struggle as a skill deficiency on their way

559
00:27:24.240 --> 00:27:28.160
to getting what they ultimately want is one of the most motivating things that you can

560
00:27:28.160 --> 00:27:32.560
do to help someone do the thing that they ultimately probably want to do too.

561
00:27:32.560 --> 00:27:34.800
They just haven't been motivated to.

562
00:27:34.800 --> 00:27:36.760
And so we knock out all of the peripheral things.

563
00:27:36.760 --> 00:27:38.760
They didn't know that we wanted.

564
00:27:38.760 --> 00:27:39.760
They didn't know what it was.

565
00:27:39.760 --> 00:27:40.760
They didn't know how to do it.

566
00:27:40.760 --> 00:27:41.760
They didn't know when we want to do by.

567
00:27:41.760 --> 00:27:43.400
They had something in the block but not really.

568
00:27:43.400 --> 00:27:46.280
And so the main one is that we can get to the motivation.

569
00:27:46.280 --> 00:27:50.400
But if some people just fundamentally don't have enough motivation on this thing, sometimes

570
00:27:50.400 --> 00:27:51.480
they just don't need to work for you.

571
00:27:51.480 --> 00:27:52.480
That's okay.

572
00:27:52.480 --> 00:27:55.440
There's tons of other companies that will employ mediocre people.

573
00:27:55.440 --> 00:27:56.800
It just doesn't have to be yours.

574
00:27:56.880 --> 00:28:01.560
If I can give you a fun one because some of you guys have employed people that you know

575
00:28:01.560 --> 00:28:02.560
shouldn't be working for you.

576
00:28:02.560 --> 00:28:03.560
It's your sister.

577
00:28:03.560 --> 00:28:04.560
It's your sister's husband.

578
00:28:04.560 --> 00:28:06.040
It's your cousin.

579
00:28:06.040 --> 00:28:10.160
And you think yourself, man, if I let them go, no one's going to hire them.

580
00:28:10.160 --> 00:28:13.880
It's like, yeah, no one would hire them.

581
00:28:13.880 --> 00:28:17.480
And somehow you think it's a good idea that you continue to employ them.

582
00:28:17.480 --> 00:28:23.040
That feels max silly, silly, silly game, silly to your S to your S to your silly.

583
00:28:23.040 --> 00:28:26.440
Now leave you a little bonus reframe on this.

584
00:28:26.440 --> 00:28:30.000
If you have, if you're trying to look at your businesses as a business owner, right,

585
00:28:30.000 --> 00:28:35.760
from a strategic perspective, there's a lot of things that you could do, right?

586
00:28:35.760 --> 00:28:40.160
But we have to ask ourselves, what are the things that are the most important for us to

587
00:28:40.160 --> 00:28:43.400
do by when would it be the most meaningful?

588
00:28:43.400 --> 00:28:45.880
Now here's where it gets really interesting.

589
00:28:45.880 --> 00:28:48.560
You more often than not are going to have how issues.

590
00:28:48.560 --> 00:28:50.920
You're not going to know how to do it.

591
00:28:50.920 --> 00:28:57.360
And reframing the things that you know you need to do as questions that you don't know

592
00:28:57.360 --> 00:29:05.520
the answer to is so much more valuable than there's no one who can sell like me.

593
00:29:05.520 --> 00:29:08.560
I don't know how to get someone to sell like me.

594
00:29:08.560 --> 00:29:09.720
No one can mark a like I can.

595
00:29:09.720 --> 00:29:13.040
I don't know how to find someone who can mark a like I can.

596
00:29:13.040 --> 00:29:14.360
That's solvable.

597
00:29:14.360 --> 00:29:17.600
No one can is a statement that you can do anything with.

598
00:29:17.600 --> 00:29:21.920
And so what I would really, really push back on is my kind of like leaving thought that

599
00:29:21.920 --> 00:29:25.680
might be the most powerful thing of this video, being incredibly wary about the statements

600
00:29:25.680 --> 00:29:32.920
that you make that you believe are facts because those statements exist as truth only in

601
00:29:32.920 --> 00:29:34.560
your mind.

602
00:29:34.560 --> 00:29:38.720
And so basically your reality will be influenced by the laws that you choose to create and

603
00:29:38.720 --> 00:29:39.720
live by.

604
00:29:39.720 --> 00:29:44.120
And so if you want to bend your own reality, you have to be able to change the laws that

605
00:29:44.120 --> 00:29:45.640
exist.

606
00:29:45.640 --> 00:29:50.600
And so in the matrix, it's like every system is built on rules, right?

607
00:29:50.600 --> 00:29:54.040
Some, some rules you can bend, others you can break.

608
00:29:54.040 --> 00:29:58.640
And the thing is, is that wouldn't you want to build a business in a world that had

609
00:29:58.640 --> 00:30:00.680
the fewest rules possible?

610
00:30:00.680 --> 00:30:04.120
And then what's interesting to me is that the amount of conversations that I have with

611
00:30:04.120 --> 00:30:08.600
business owners who tell me rules that limit their business like, oh, we can't charge

612
00:30:08.600 --> 00:30:11.440
more than that because no one else does.

613
00:30:11.440 --> 00:30:13.240
That sounds like a terrible reason.

614
00:30:13.240 --> 00:30:15.760
We can't pay people that much.

615
00:30:15.760 --> 00:30:16.760
Why?

616
00:30:16.760 --> 00:30:20.680
Because it's not industry standard.

617
00:30:20.680 --> 00:30:21.680
Okay.

618
00:30:21.680 --> 00:30:25.360
Well, everybody in your industry makes no money, so why would we do what they're doing?

619
00:30:25.360 --> 00:30:30.000
Like the biggest gift that I can give you is that the vast majority of business owners

620
00:30:30.000 --> 00:30:32.400
are broke, the vast majority.

621
00:30:32.400 --> 00:30:34.640
The average business owner makes like 50,000 dollars a year, right?

622
00:30:34.640 --> 00:30:36.880
I'm not saying this broke, it would be clear.

623
00:30:36.880 --> 00:30:40.200
But for many people, the aspirations of being a business owner come with significantly

624
00:30:40.200 --> 00:30:42.440
higher goals than that reality.

625
00:30:42.440 --> 00:30:46.200
And if that's true, then the vast majority of business owners are wildly underperforming

626
00:30:46.200 --> 00:30:48.120
their aspirations.

627
00:30:48.120 --> 00:30:52.720
And a big part of that is because they model people like them.

628
00:30:52.720 --> 00:30:55.920
Most business owners look around, they see what everyone else is doing and say, oh, I'll

629
00:30:55.920 --> 00:30:56.920
do that.

630
00:30:56.920 --> 00:30:59.080
And I'll do it a little bit better for a little bit less.

631
00:30:59.080 --> 00:31:02.360
But then every other person does that too until eventually you can't do any more for

632
00:31:02.360 --> 00:31:03.720
any less.

633
00:31:03.720 --> 00:31:08.600
And so many of these businesses function as essentially nonprofit organizations where the

634
00:31:08.600 --> 00:31:14.080
person's barely above water, selling a largely commoditized service at a commoditized price

635
00:31:14.080 --> 00:31:17.920
with no differentiation in the marketplace whatsoever.

636
00:31:17.920 --> 00:31:20.280
That's a game where if you choose to play like everyone else, you will lose.

637
00:31:20.280 --> 00:31:25.040
And so I would encourage you to, if everyone's doing something, it's a great reason not

638
00:31:25.040 --> 00:31:26.040
to do it.

639
00:31:26.040 --> 00:31:29.600
If anything, that, like that alone would be, that would be a reason not to do it.

640
00:31:29.600 --> 00:31:30.600
At least it's different, right?

641
00:31:30.600 --> 00:31:33.280
At least you have an angle, you have something that's different.

642
00:31:33.280 --> 00:31:36.000
Well, if everyone else is paying this, maybe if I pay more, I'll be able to suck up

643
00:31:36.000 --> 00:31:37.520
the top, the top 10%.

644
00:31:37.520 --> 00:31:38.520
Right?

645
00:31:38.520 --> 00:31:42.400
One of the things that people will talk about Henry Ford is Henry Ford paid people better

646
00:31:42.400 --> 00:31:47.400
than his competitors, so that he could scoop up the entirety of the talent at his plants.

647
00:31:47.400 --> 00:31:51.560
He's the one who invented like the manufacturing line, like, yeah, he did.

648
00:31:51.560 --> 00:31:56.600
He also paid people better than anyone else so that you could get the top talent.

649
00:31:56.600 --> 00:31:58.720
People thought of him as the guy who was just automating humans out.

650
00:31:58.720 --> 00:32:02.160
It's like, no, he just ended up paying the best people to work for him.

651
00:32:02.160 --> 00:32:03.480
But he did something that people weren't.

652
00:32:03.480 --> 00:32:05.520
He did something that other people didn't.

653
00:32:05.520 --> 00:32:08.880
And so I would walk through this star system so that you can also think about your own

654
00:32:08.880 --> 00:32:10.600
business in that same frame.

655
00:32:10.600 --> 00:32:12.920
Why aren't you doing what you know you need to be doing?

656
00:32:12.920 --> 00:32:13.920
Do you not know that?

657
00:32:13.920 --> 00:32:14.920
It needs to be done.

658
00:32:14.920 --> 00:32:15.920
Do you not know what it is?

659
00:32:15.920 --> 00:32:16.920
Do you don't know how to do it?

660
00:32:16.920 --> 00:32:19.760
You don't know when it would be meaningful that it's do it being done by, or do you have

661
00:32:19.760 --> 00:32:22.000
something that is blocking you?

662
00:32:22.000 --> 00:32:23.280
And do you have something that's blocking you?

663
00:32:23.280 --> 00:32:24.640
Is it more important than that thing?

664
00:32:24.640 --> 00:32:28.600
And if the answer's no, then stop doing it and do the thing and stuff.

665
00:32:28.600 --> 00:32:31.920
And if you were struggling to be motivated, maybe you need to look at yourself in the mirror,

666
00:32:31.920 --> 00:32:34.200
and I don't know what you'd say to yourself in the mirror, but like you could look at yourself

667
00:32:34.200 --> 00:32:36.640
and then eventually you actually just do it because the look at yourself in the mirror

668
00:32:36.640 --> 00:32:38.360
is not going to change anything anyways.

669
00:32:38.360 --> 00:32:40.120
But you know, maybe you look good.

670
00:32:40.120 --> 00:32:41.120
Maybe that'll get you motivated.

671
00:32:41.120 --> 00:32:42.120
All right.

672
00:32:42.120 --> 00:32:43.120
Love you all.

673
00:32:43.120 --> 00:32:44.120
Rock and roll.

674
00:32:44.120 --> 00:32:46.520
And use the star system next time with a hard conversation.

675
00:32:46.520 --> 00:32:48.520
Hey, real quick.

676
00:32:48.520 --> 00:32:49.520
Did you not know that?

677
00:32:49.520 --> 00:32:50.520
I wanted to do it.

678
00:32:50.520 --> 00:32:51.520
Did you not know what I wanted to do?

679
00:32:51.520 --> 00:32:52.520
Did you not know how to do it?

680
00:32:52.520 --> 00:32:53.520
Did you not know that?

681
00:32:53.520 --> 00:32:54.520
I wanted to do it by Tuesday.

682
00:32:54.520 --> 00:32:55.520
Or was there something blocking you?

683
00:32:55.520 --> 00:32:57.000
There was something blocking you.

684
00:32:57.000 --> 00:32:59.280
Is it reasonable that it blocked you for that long?

685
00:32:59.280 --> 00:33:00.280
No.

686
00:33:00.280 --> 00:33:01.280
Okay.

687
00:33:01.280 --> 00:33:02.280
What's the issue?

688
00:33:02.280 --> 00:33:03.280
Or you know what?

689
00:33:03.280 --> 00:33:05.080
Do that first and then do this after.
