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Welcome back to the game. Business owner is making less than $10 million per year cannot

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afford to make this mistake, and it's a problem that limited me and my ability to sell

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my company, and there's four parts of this mistake, and it starts to something that I like

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to call a key man risk. If a single person is vital to how your business operates, and if they

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were gone, the business would cease to be able to exist, or be able to be as profitable as it is

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with that person. This key man risk can exist at the founder level, so it might be you. If you're

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business, if you leave for two months, which by the way is a great test of this, if the business

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cannot sustain its level of productivity, like if all of a sudden the sales go to zero, or they cut

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in half because you're the only good closer, or all of a sudden you're not even getting leads

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because you're the only good marketer, or because the product can't be delivered because you're

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the only person who knows how to do it. In each of these situations, there's key man risk,

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and that can be, of course, you, the owner in the beginning, it's more common than it's you,

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and then over time, that key man risk can be an employee who works for you. It's just as dangerous

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for a public company that has an employee who has zero stock in the business, who happens to own

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all the passwords, for example, to every single dedicated system. Like if that person leaves,

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it could do material damage to the business. You've got these functions that occur in the business

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on a regular basis, and there may be multiple people that can do these functions. And so the

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opposite of key man risk is redundancy, meaning if one of these people disappear, we still have a

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flow for, let's say, dollars to go across this bridge. It can still keep kind of make its way

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through. All right, so let me tell you a story. So one of the key man risks that existed in Jim

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Lunch, and we had multiple, so the thing is that this can happen at any function, so this could

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happen on the marketing side. If only one guy knows how to generate leads, or if that person left,

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you would get half the leads or a third of the leads, that would be key man risk. If only one guy

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knows how to sell like you, and that guy closes 80% and no one else can close 20, that would be

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material. That would be key man risk. If only one person can do the delivery, that would be key man

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risk. And so I'll give you an example of the delivery. And so when I had Jim Lunch, I was kind of the

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innovator of the product and the service. I came up with the solutions for the gyms. And so

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for an acquirer or a private equity firm who wants to buy this business, or whoever else you might

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want to sell a business to, having one person, especially if the person who's going to leave

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when the business is sold, is a huge massive red flag for them because they're like, wait,

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we're buying this production, but it's with this key cog in the machine, and you want to have us

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buy this thing and remove the cog. Now, in a situation where you raise money, for example,

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it's not as much of an issue because those people, those pieces, those cogs are still in the machine.

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If you wanted to sell a company, and you own the company, and you leave, and all the people who

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are still key man remain within the business, then what they're going to do is try and incentivize

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those people to stay, but it still makes the company sellable. So this just counts double if it's

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the owner, or somebody who's going to leave as a result of a transaction, is the key man risk

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in any of the functions of the business. So I was key man in the delivery. And so I did a couple

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things to solve the problem. So number one is that I created a department called the R&amp;D department.

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And so the way it worked was simple. I thought about the process that I would go through when I

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wanted to innovate the product. So I'd say, okay, what can we do for our gym owners that will help

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them generate more leads, make more sales, whatever the issue was. And so the first thing that I did

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was that I would say, okay, I have a way of identifying problems. I would ask the customers,

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and the nice thing is if you listen to your customers, they will shout at you, and they will tell you

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exactly what their problems are. And so I'd say, okay, number one is that I had these problems.

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So I have to solve those problems. And so I'd have them rank the problems. They say, okay,

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this month lead generation is the biggest issue. They want more leads. And I'd say, all right.

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Now the next thing that I would do is I would deploy resources. So this would be time

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and money that ideally my customers couldn't deploy, but I could fractionalize that cost between

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all of my customers to create a much bigger individual investment that any one of them could afford.

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Let's say they pay three or four thousand dollars a month, I would spend $50,000 a month on this

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test. And so I'd say, okay, go hire a bunch of models, go out to a really good gym, film some great

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ads, then test those ads. So number three, I would test the ads in representative markets. So I'd

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have 20 markets or so. That would represent different demographics. So black, white, Asian,

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Hispanic, poor markets, rich markets, large markets, small markets, with good operators,

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with poor operators, with mediocre operators. That way I had a true sampling. Rather than just

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saying, I'm just going to send this to my favorite customers because that's not going to work.

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And so we test it. And then what I would do is hand off winners. And so what that meant was,

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I would say, okay, these ads of the 30 that we ran and we spent $50,000 on this whole thing,

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these two or three were the ones that generated the highest returns. And then I would give all of those

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to the gyms in our distribution base so that they could run those ads. They just wanted the

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inputs to feed the system. And those inputs were required on a regular basis.

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In order for me to hand this off to someone, I said, this is fundamentally the way I do it.

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I look at the problems that they have in this instance, it was lead generation. I would dedicate

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time and money to solving this problem in a way that they couldn't do it so that I could create

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a better solution that they could do it on their own. I would test to validate that the solution

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that I had was superior. And then we roll it out. And I followed this process for my R&amp;D so that I

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could replicate the person with a system. Why this matters is that if you have key men risk,

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you don't have an asset, you have a high paying job. And I don't say that to insult you,

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I say that so that you can be aware of it, so that you can actually fix it. And to be clear,

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if you are fine just working and not necessarily owning an asset, that's great. There's nothing

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wrong with trading time for money. Big fan. It's just like, ideally, just trade it for lots of money,

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right? But if you do want to solve it, you will get more leverage on your time because then you

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don't have to do this thing. This thing occurs without you. And then you can take the remainder of

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your time and shuttle it to the things that make you even more money. And so typically, key man risk

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will occur in three primary areas. So number one is that it can occur in marketing.

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So how do we get leads in the door? The second big place that it can occur is sales or conversion.

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How do we get prospects to hand us money for our goods and services? And then third is the

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actual goods and services themselves, which you can consider product, et cetera. And so this

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happens at any level. So if you're a service and you're just happened to be the best plumber,

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the best electrician, or you're the best coder, or you're the best advertiser. Now with marketing,

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for example, if you own a marketing agency, you probably are key man on marketing for yourself

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and marketing for your customers, right? Like you can happen in multiple places, even if it's one

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person. And in the, and the more places one person is key man, the risk you're the businesses

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overall. Now I want to be clear, key man risk is a double edged sword because the more valuable

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you become, the more more of a key man you are. And so the idea is that as soon as you learn a

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very valuable skill, the most valuable thing that you can do next is learn how to transfer that

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skill to another person. And I think this is a skill that I've spent a tremendous amount of time

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trying to hone so that I can build companies. And I think about it like this, assemble companies,

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assemble people and then transfer the skills around whatever area has some sort of bottleneck where

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there's too few people who know how to do the thing. And this is so important because whether you

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want to sell a business or not, making a business that is sell a bull makes it better for anyone.

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Here's the best analogy I have, which is say that you bought a house. Now if you've never bought a

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house before, then this may be news. But when you buy a house, what happens is that after

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certain amount of time and the average Americans like three to five years, they change where they live.

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All right, so you buy a house. Now over time, you got some wear and tear on the house and the

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house kind of degrades in your mind, right? Like that you get a little crack on the front porch,

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this door kind of squeaks a little bit. And when you go to sell, what do you do? You fix the

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little path in front of the house, you put some oil on the little hinges here, you know, you're like,

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you know, maybe I'll put a little pat of you out back. I feel like that would increase our home

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value, right? And then all of a sudden, and this is the crazy thing, right? When you're about to sell

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the house and you fix to all the things that are wrong with it, you're like, you know, this is

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house ain't so bad, right? And so the same exact thing happens with the business. If all of a sudden

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you remove yourself as key man in marketing and sales and product, all of a sudden you're like, huh.

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This business almost runs without me. This ain't so bad. Now the last area that you can have

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key man risk that can occur. And this is kind of like the glue between all of these is operations.

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So if you have a key leader, for example, who has tremendous influence over the entire team,

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then the operations connects the people to their functions. And so think of that as kind of the

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glue that runs the organization. If Layla were to leave, she would leave a huge vacuum at acquisition.com.

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Now she is not specifically over marketing, sales or products. She just has all of these leaders that

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are rolling into her. And so if the leadership was gone, that in and of itself would also be

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somebody who's key man. So if you're thinking yourself, okay, this is me. I'm definitely key man,

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or there's somebody in my business who's key man, a marketing sales operations product,

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then there are two major ways that you can solve this. So the first is through process and people,

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just like I walked through earlier where I said, okay, what are the actual steps that I do in order

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to solve this marketing problem? What are the actual steps that I use to think through creating new

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products? What are the actual steps that I use to think through creating sales process,

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driving sales results, etc. So it's process in the people who will then do those processes within

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the business. The second way, and this really only applies if it's not you who is the person

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who's key man is incentives. And so if it's you, you only have option one. If it's somebody else,

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other people, you have option one and option two to solve the problem. And so for example, if I

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said, hey, I will incentivize you to stay in this business by giving you some vesting of shares

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over a three or five year period, then that would make it less likely that the person's going to

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leave and disrupt the business. I think through it in both of these now, which of these is the most

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valuable, like most valuable to the business to do? Well, the most valuable to do is this one. But

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the higher up the skill set is the more unique the individual, like think about Elon Musk. He's

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key man in almost all of his businesses. But the reason that it's okay is that he has no desire to

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sell them. And so people bet on Elon and the companies because they are inseparable entities,

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like they go one together and no one's leaving, right? They get public and all of their shares are

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still theirs and they're still incentivized to continue to grow it. Now, if you're watching this

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in one way, well, okay, processing people, what does that actually mean? So inside of $100 million

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leads, I break this down in the employees section, which is a chapter in the book in terms of how to

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help, how to get people to get you more customers. You have the functions that an employee would do.

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And so there's two aspects. One is like, how do I get these people? You can use warm outreach to

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ask your network. You can do cold outreach, which is basically recruiting. You can post content,

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which is basically posting job openings that you have available. Doing paid ads, so promoting

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job postings on like a Craigslist or an indeed or a monster or a ladder. Getting employee referrals,

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right? So rather than customer referrals, you're getting employee referrals. Affiliates would be like

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associations, guilds, listsers that already have a huge amount of people who want this specific

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type of roller job agency. So I think like staffing firms. And then obviously employees themselves

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could be the solution. Now, how do you get them to actually do this? And so the step one is that

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you document, which is basically saying, hey, here's our checklist of things that must occur

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in order for this process to be deemed complete or sufficient. The second D here is demonstrate,

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which is that you do it in front of them, right? So you do it on your own and create the checklist.

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Then you do that checklist in front of them. And you only stick with that checklist because if you do

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anything off the checklist, then you have to add to it. And then finally, they do it in front of you.

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So they duplicate it. So you document checklist, you demonstrate it in front of them, then they

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demonstrate it in front of you, which is basically duplication. And so that three step process is

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fundamentally how you can teach anyone to do anything. And in order to make a process more

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teachable, you simply have to break it down to more and more steps based on the skill of the person

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you're teaching it to. If I wanted to teach an advanced marketer, how should you email marketing,

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for example, I wouldn't say, hey, turn on your computer. Step two, pull up internet explorer.

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Step three, sign up for a Gmail account, right? I wouldn't have to go through all those steps

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because there's an assumed level of proficiency. This is why when you go to college or whatever

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education system you went through, there are prerequisites for moving on to the next level so that

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they don't have to teach you with rhythm tick and then teach you calculus later. They just assume

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you know it. And so your checklist that you create is going to depend on the level of the person

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that you're teaching the skill to and the lower the level, the more checks you're going to be on the

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list, the more you need to regress it. And so let's say you brought on somebody for sales,

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right? Who's going to be a director of sales? This might be a higher level role. You would still

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follow the same thing as, hey, these are the activities that I spend my time on. This is what I

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actually do. Then they're going to watch you do it. You probably are running teams. You're probably

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doing one-on-ones. You're probably looking at data to look for key outpoints so that you can

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address them and solve them within the team. And then they are going to take over those

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responsibilities. Do them in front of you. And then when they have done them to the satisfactory

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level, you can then delegate it. And so the easy litmus test for good delegation is that after

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you've given the responsibility away and someone else is actually doing the actions,

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then the performance of the department or function either remains neutral or goes up.

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That is when you have successfully delegated. It's not that you give something to someone that

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makes it delegation. You can give something to someone and completely abdicate or basically

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get rid of responsibility but with no feedback loop to determine whether or not you did a good job

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or that they're doing a good job. And so it has to be the performance of the function after you've

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headed off that determines whether or not you have successfully delegated. And sometimes you have

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to repeat the cycle multiple times with the same person and that's okay because you need to learn

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too on how to teach better. And quick pro tip, if you're a smaller business and let's say that you

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do some sort of service and it's just you or just you and a couple people, there are three options

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that you can do when you have too much demand and very fixed amount of supply. You can't, you're

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completely maxed out, you can't take on any more customers, you barely can't. So option one is that

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you can simply raise your prices. And if you do that, you'll absolutely make more money. So you'll

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get paid more for the same thing, which is my favorite way of getting paid. Now the second thing

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that you can do is you can increase the service ratio. And so that means instead of doing one on one,

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for example, I would do one on five or one on ten. Now alternatively, you can think of it with a

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team the same way, which is let's say I have four people who work in my agency and they do different

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functions to serve one type of customer. Then if I can change it from those four people together

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can handle 20 clients. I can have those four people together handling 40 clients. And so the

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ratio still shifts towards us. So you get more efficient, which is either process or some sort

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of technology or training that allows you to get more from your existing talent. The third, and

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this is the most valuable one, processing people. So you actually get somebody else to do the work

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for you, which typically means you have to organize the stuff, make sure they did it successfully

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and you can hand it off. And if I had to do this in sequence, meaning in what order what I do this,

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first is I would raise prices because that requires the least amount of work and can immediately

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make money if I'm supply constrained. Second, I would say, okay, well, people are saying,

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yes, these higher prices, well, I don't want to raise prices again, which you obviously still can.

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I can shift my service ratio at this current price to fundamentally dilute down the service

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that I have because it's so good. And as long as my value still exceeds my price without raising

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the price with the second implementation, I would still have people who want to give me money.

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Now, if I've done as much of these two things as I can, I can then say, you know what, I want to

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not have to do any of these things at all. I want someone else to do them. And then that transforms

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this particular job that you have because as an entrepreneur, you'll have more than one job.

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It takes this job, takes the hat off your head and puts it on someone else's. And then that shifts

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you towards owning an asset rather than owning a job. And to be clear, I'm all for maximizing the

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amount of money that you're making. And some businesses lend themselves more to kind of the people

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and process stuff than others do. Taylor Swift, for example, is going to have a hard time being like,

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hey, this is my blonde double. And she's going to sing for you guys today because look, I've delegated

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the responsibility. Now, it's very unlikely that that would happen. And so there are situations

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where you just have unicorns in a business. And so that's where you just have to align incentives

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like crazy and try and take it all the way, right? Which is either you're just getting a paid

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it's not a money, which, you know, Taylor Swift does. Or you create liquidity, meaning you get paid

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for the equity shares that you have via a different vehicle than selling. So when you go public,

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you don't, you sell a little bit of the company. But the vast majority of the wealth that most

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of those founders have is that they have shares that they can take loans against. And bigger

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business gets, if you don't have any desire to sell it, you can take debt or other instruments

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where people will lend you and you can collateralize or back it up with the stock that you have in

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the business. And so if you don't pay them back, they get to own shares in the company. And so you

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can see with key man, it's all about risk. And so when we successfully bridge this gap, what we

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avoid is the risk pitfalls here at the bottom where we could just die of fiery death in our business.

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And so we just keep building our little bridge. The next brick in our bridge to our big money pile

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over here is single channel risk. Now that's just a fancy word. So let me tell you what it means.

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Very simple. If more than half of your customers or leads come from one place, you have single

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channel risk. And the concept behind this is that if that were to stop, it would materially affect

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your business on a long time horizon. So quick illustration. One of our portfolio companies,

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which is the teeth wedding chain, got a lot of business from outbound, meaning they had a team

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in the Philippines that would reach out to prospects in a specific geographic so that we could

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give them an offer to get them to come in and get their teeth white and very simple business.

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Almost all customers were coming from that specific source. All of a sudden, the rules on that

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platform changed based on the way that we could message. Almost overnight, we had 50 to 70 percent

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fewer sales coming in from that primary channel. Now that is single channel risk. Can you imagine

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as a business owner overnight? You're like, oh my god, this will change. Now this has happened for

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if your ads dependent. Let's say all of your ad, all the way that you get customers is on

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meta ads. And then you lose your account, boom, all of a sudden your business almost goes to zero.

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and that platform bans you or restricts you or shadow bans, whatever. And then boom, all of your

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lead flow disappears. Or you have, let's say, a domain or a server that you send your emails

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from. When you do outbound and all of a sudden that gets whacked with some sort of, you go into

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the promotions tab on email. All of a sudden, all your response rates from your domain go to

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almost nothing. In each of those scenarios, you have single channel risk. Now thankfully,

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for this particular business, I had spent the last six months or more building out a recurring

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revenue stream. And I detailed that in a different video where we went from like 5 percent of

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revenue being recurring revenue to over 60 percent of revenue being recurring revenue. And so

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even though we decreased the amount of new sales coming in by over half, it didn't actually

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change our overall revenue because we had so much compounding that had started to become unlocked,

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which is why there are multiple ways to stabilize a business. But for the purpose of this video,

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if you have only one way to get customers, then you have one way to lose them. So first off,

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who needs to worry about this? Well, bigger your business gets the more important this is. And let

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me explain tactically how this works. Because let's say even volatility from a single channel

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is something that could rock the boat figuratively. Well, if you have a small business and let's say

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the channel goes down by 20 percent, then let's say you've got one sales guy and his calendar goes

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from 100 percent filled to 80 percent filled. Not a huge deal. Now, if you have 100 sales guys and

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their calendars go from 100 percent to all of a sudden, 20 of the guys have completely empty

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calendars. That level of volatility that can occur when you only have one channel makes it

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much more difficult to do business on a regular basis. And so there's a variety of solutions that

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I will walk you through. So number one is that if you're a tiny business, you don't need to worry

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about this yet. But my biggest advocate for being a small business is that you're going to have one

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primary method for getting cold people, which is usually going to be outbound. Number one, which

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is you're reaching out to prospects who don't know who you are. Two is going to be affiliates. So

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again, you've got third parties that are sending you traffic. Three, you've got ads that are ways that

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people are coming into the business. And you've got organic. So this is going to be likely how you're

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going to be getting customers. This may seem like a little bit of a departure from some of the things

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I've talked before worth. One channel, one avatar, one product, up to a million dollars year. And

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that's true. It's just that I've seen like so many people be able to manage this. And I think it's

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such high return for such low effort that the organic that you put here is not really to acquire

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customers. It actually functions more to amplify what you're doing with these other channels.

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If you are doing outbound and then people Google you and then they can find a little bit of

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content, then it's like, oh, this guy has a pulse. So this is a real business. Someone is

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an affiliate or affiliates are sending you customers or you're trying to sell affiliates,

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then just knowing that if some sort of presence increases the likely they do business with you

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and same thing with ads. And so if you're a small business, this is going to be one of the big

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ones that you're probably going to use. But the organic is just something that you can do even one

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post a week. It doesn't have to be a ton just to look like you have a pulse. So if you're a bigger

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business, the way that we solve this is a standardized process that I've now had to jump through with

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a lot of companies. So the first thing we do is we shore up long term nurture. All right. And you're

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like, how does this have to do with like what does this have to do with getting a second channel?

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what we're already doing. And if we get more that's going to increase our cash flow without adding

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cost basis to the business. So it's basically thinking about it as like decreasing risk and

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increasing our ability to make bets. So long term nurture means a combination of making more content

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and hey guys real quick, this podcast only grows from word of mouth quite literally. There's

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no other way to grow podcasts in word of mouth. If there's some element of this that you think

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somebody else should hear or be relevant to them, it would mean the world to me. If you shared

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this via text via Instagram via DM via whatever way you like to share stuff with people you love.

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Thank you. Email specifically follow up because a lot of people, a lot of businesses don't do a good

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job following up with leads. And so they have this list of 10,000 or 20,000 or 1,000 people that have

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done business with them over a long period of time. We're at least giving them their information.

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providing value and then occasionally presenting offers, we're going to have another stream

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of customers that's coming in. So think of this as in a way another customer stream, but it's

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an incredibly low risk customer stream that is the most profitable of all streams. And so email

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marketing for example has depending on the source of 42 to 1 to 36 to 1 return on dollars.

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And so it's like oh my god, like why would we not do that? So we do this to decrease our risk,

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increase our cash flow in the short term to get that engine going. The next engine that I like to

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make sure is very strong is my referral engine. And so if I haven't put a strong referral system in

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place to get customers to send me more customers and made sure that I'm asking multiple times in

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different and creative ways throughout the customer journey, then I implement that next.

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Again, we're getting more for what we put in. And so after we've got the long-term nurture

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firing and we've got the referral system going, this should give us a little bit of padding

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to then invest in the second channel. Now when I say invest, the way that it typically works is that

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you will see no outcome for an extended period and then all of a sudden it will start working.

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And you may get frustrated in the short term that you're not seeing immediate results,

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but welcome to business. You have to think long-term about the value of what a second acquisition

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channel or third acquisition channel means to you. So number one is that when you do the second

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acquisition channel, you can immediately double sales or more. And if you double revenue,

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you typically far more than double profit. So that's number one. Number two is that the business

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itself becomes less risky. So not only are we adding revenue and profit of the business,

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the revenue and profits itself is more likely to continue. And so the business itself becomes

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more valuable and you can sleep much better at night knowing that if one of these things goes down,

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my team is still fed. And so when we make this investment, here's one of the big no-nos,

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is you don't do two news. Like what's two news? So you don't want to have two news. So what does that

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mean? Well, if you're going to start a new channel, that's one new. What you don't want to do is put

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a new person on a new channel because they don't know which new is the problem. Because even if you

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take you and maybe you're really good or you're best person and you put them on the new channel,

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well, there's already the newness of the new channel and you won't know. But if it's somebody

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you know who's really good, then at least we're working through the channel itself. Otherwise,

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you could be stuck paying lots of money for a long period of time, not knowing if you're solving

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the right problem. Which is why I'm such an advocate for founders have deep understanding of the

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core processes of the business, which for me are understand how you get customers who's going to

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be marketing and sales and understand how you deliver value. Now, if you wanted to outsource IT,

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if you wanted to outsource accounting, if you wanted to outsource HR or payroll processing,

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those are things that I don't see as quarterly business. You can of course bring them in house

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when the cost makes sense. But in terms of the core economic engine of the business, those are the

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things that you the founder of the entrepreneur want to understand intimately. If I am going to start

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a new channel, I do these two things first in order to give myself some breather room. I get a

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little more cash flow. I get a little bit more from what I'm already doing. And then I have one new

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which is the new channel and then old person. Now, it doesn't actually have to be old,

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but it's somebody that I know. This can be tough because you're like, wait, I don't want my original

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channel to go down, which is the most common thing that happens in the situation. My recommendation

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is transfer the skill on the first channel first to someone else. Make sure that they can handle

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that without decreasing performance, ideally it goes up. Then and only then, you can then make

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the investment into the second channel where you're the old guy and the channels, the new thing.

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if you're a larger business and you're like, I can't actually just like figure out a cold

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outbound. That's fine. But you basically have a thought partner and you guys are working through

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it together because you'll have more context on the business overall and maybe they have more

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context on the methodology that you're going to use for the second channel. But that merger,

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those things coming together where you learn a lot about the method, they learn a lot about the

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context of the business, both people get better. And this is how I've seen, this is how I've

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been able to successfully use all of these different methods of getting customers in different

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companies. If any customer or associated customers left tomorrow, would your revenue drop by 20%

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or more? Now, the reason 20% is kind of the number I choose is that most businesses run at 10,

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20, 30, 40% margins. And so if you had even a 40% margin, which would be a great margin,

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you lose half your profit. This would be material to the business itself and its value.

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So I'll give you a real business start. So I had a business owner come out to acquisition.com

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who was an agency owner. And he had 10 customers. And nine of his customers were small like tech,

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SEO, like agency customers. And then one customer was Google itself. And he was a massive percentage

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of his revenue. So for him, for this example, this was actually 70% of his revenue. So if you

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actually look at the meat of this fish, and you added all these little pieces of meat in between

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together, this is definitely the fish that has all the money. If I'm this owner, I'm like, oh my god,

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if I lose this whale, it's going to kill my business. I won't be able to have to let go of half my

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staff. I would certainly lose all my profit. And so this is a huge risk to the business. Now,

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there are four ways that you can solve this problem. So there are four proven ways to solve this

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problem. So when this business owner came out, I said, we're going to go throw four and you're

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going to pick the one that you think you have the highest likelihood of achieving. And so this is

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you. This is how you solve it. So the first way you can do it, all of a sudden you get a bunch more

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minnows and then all of a sudden by percentage, man, these are ugly fish, by percentage, you know what?

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This whale isn't 70% of my business anymore. So you just keep adding minnows to your boat,

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and then all of a sudden you're like, you know what, my minnows weigh out weigh my whale. And so I

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don't have key customers anymore. The second way is that you lock this whale in to a long-term

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contract. So just think about this whale as signing his life away. But you get Google or whatever

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this customer is to sign a three year, a five year, a seven year commitment, and you can add some

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sort of discount that might be associated with that kind of commitment. But when they do that,

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then it makes it more stable because it's unlikely that they're going to leave. And if you want to be

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smart about this, just a little pro tip, add a little breakup fee because some people are still going

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to back out on their agreement and you don't want to get into a legal battle. So you want to just give

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them some way in the future, but just knowing that there's this nut that they're going to have to

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pay will prolong how long they'll stay with you. And so I would probably charge somewhere they

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would have 10 to 20% of the contract. Now all of the stuff's negotiable as a breakup fee. So

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if someone has a five year deal, then I might say you had to pay a year if you're going to break up

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beforehand. Another way of thinking about it is saying whatever discount I gave you, you're

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going to have to pay to make up that discount for the entirety of the contract in order to leave the

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contract. Another one is that they have to give you six or 12 months of heads up. So there's a lot

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of ways that you can write terms around this with the whale to decrease the likelihood that they

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leave and disrupt the business. Now that's path number two. The third path is, and this is my

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preferred path, is you just get more damn whales. And then all of a sudden you realize, you know what?

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Dude, I'm in the whale business, right? Why was I hunting menos? Look at the meat on these guys,

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right? And so all of a sudden, you don't try to outnumber with menos, you make all of a sudden,

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you just go get five, six more whales. And this isn't 10% or 20% of your business. So path four is

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a nasty one. And for many of you, if this is your situation, it may actually be the right path.

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And I'll tell you a story to illustrate it. So there was a recruiting firm that I was talking to,

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and they had grown a decent amount. And they had this Mondo contract that was on the horizon. And so

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they staffed for very specific types of engineering roles that were difficult to find. So they

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definitely had a niche that they had found. And they had some big whale come to them and say, hey,

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we want you to staff us with 20 new employees a month, which was a big contract for this firm.

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So this firm was probably doing $6,700,000 a month. And so this would be like an additional,

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you know, $200,000 a month that they were going to be able to contract through this new whale.

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And when they were asking, you know, how, like, how should we negotiate this deal?

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What pricing should we put in there? I thought about it for a long time. And I was like, you know,

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guys, I think the actual best move is to not do this deal because they were going to have to

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basically change the fundamentals of their business, their pricing, their delivery, the whale

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demanded so many so many custom things that were only going to be a use case for them. And we're

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not going to service the rest of their customers. And they had no way of reliably acquiring the whale.

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So I'll explain the difference. So if the whale comes in through a tried and true channel,

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then this might make a ton of sense. But if you just get a random referral or you just meet some

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of you, you work from your network, building your entire business around an unsustainable or

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unpredictable way of getting this type of customer is probably not smart. Now, if that recruiting

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firm had said, hey, we just got our first whale, but we have a new way of getting whales,

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then I say, oh, this is the first whale of many. This makes sense. But if this is just a random

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lottery ticket that falls into your lap, you have to make the decision of what business so I really

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want to be in and what customer do I really want to serve. And so I think that this entrepreneur

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just saw dollar signs in his eyes, but didn't calculate the cost of what it would mean to his

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business and the disruption of the main economic engine that he had spent years putting together.

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And so path four is you just realized that this whale might be someone else's customer and you

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let it swim on by. And the fourth one, and this one is a crazy one that I've got a story for you,

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is single vendor risk. All right. So the first example of this that I had, like, unfortunately,

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I've had this happen a lot. All right. So with prestige labs, I had one manufacturer who made

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our products. And it turned out we found out that he ended up stealing about $400,000 in cash

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that I had sent. So and he kept asking for early and earlier payment on stuff to lock in greater

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discounts. And in general, if I have cash and I can guarantee a 10 or 20% return on that money,

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then it's almost like I could put it in the stock market, but I know for sure I'm going to get 20%

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less discount. I'm going to get a 20% discount for sure that it's like getting a 20% return on the

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money guarantee. So I'll take those those deals when they come. But kept asking for early and

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earlier and earlier. And when we just said, Hey, you know what? It had been enough times that we're

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like, why don't you just send us what you owe us in terms of product all of a sudden. He couldn't

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because what he had used is he was using our cash to run his business rather than use it as an

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account for the products and raw materials that he needed to purchase for our account. And so,

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obviously that was a big no-no. And we were able to, thankfully, like bridge to another provider

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and not really create a disruption. But for probably a period of six months, we were running out

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of product on a regular basis and had like three month lead times where we had to basically make

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this transition. And we lost a serious amount of revenue. And that was a big hit both to the revenue,

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but also just reputation because prestige labs sold through affiliates. It still does sell through

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affiliates. And during that period of affiliates were like, dude, we can't sell half the products we

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normally do because you don't have a stock. And so that was very tough. And I learned that lesson.

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Prestige Labs, which is a sub-company that I owned it about 20 million bucks a year. And I ended

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up selling that in that $42 million, $46 million sale to American Pacific Group in 2021.

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Allen was a third company that I started and sold in 2021, which was a company that helped

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brick-and-mortar businesses work their leads through automated messaging. And I didn't understand

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how software worked at the time. And so I just said, cool, I know this problem. I'm going to go

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hire an outsource dev team to go build me this software stack. And they did. And Vloen behold,

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here's the crazy thing. No one on my team was any bit technological or a developer. And so 100%

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of the development was happening in this outside shop. Now, what do you think the outside shop owner

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did when all of a sudden this thing that he builds doing 500,000, 800,000, a million, 1.2, 1.5,

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1.7 million dollars in sales? All of a sudden, magically, what was once $100,000 a month in

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development became 200, 300, 500,000 dollars a month in development because he could see how much money

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we were making. Which is why I'm such an advocate if you are going to start a software company,

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you want that person to be in-house, at least it be key man risk that you can control, right?

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But instead, I had a key vendor who literally designed and built the entire product that I was

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selling. And so this guy had me buy the balls. There was nothing I could do. And so I had to start

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building an in-house team in parallel without trying to like let, let him know that I'm doing this

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because obviously he could see the writing on the wall. And then he was difficult to work with

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and transferring the knowledge over and it was a nightmare. And so that was my second big experience

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with this. The third, you're like you should learn this lesson. You know what? Sometimes it takes

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me a while. So in my first book, $100 million offers, I talk about how I lost my payment processor.

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And it was this terrible experience for me because it was the only problem I'd ever encountered in my

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life that I couldn't save with sales because no one would process the money. TLDR, I was running a

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national business out of a brick and mortar store that I had in Southern California. So I'm

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processing payments out of Canada, I'm processing payments out of Mexico, I'm processing payments

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out of out of the United States all over the country. And they're like, wait, how is this happening

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out of a little brick and mortar store in California? I didn't know how this worked. I was 25

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years old. And so I broke the rules and was unaware of it. And so they they held my processing.

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After that happened and you only need to tap in once for every single business that I've had

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afterwards, I always have redundancies in processing. Meaning I have multiple processors that are

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approved, spun up and can handle the entirety of my monthly volume at a moment's notice.

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Because I only had one payment processor, I had no ability to negotiate anything in terms of my

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fees as well. And so having multiple there that are approved gave me leverage with the relationship,

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I got better service. And if for whatever reason something goes down, I can switch it over in a

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heartbeat and not even miss anything. Now, I had a second occurrence with this later on in my

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career where we did have redundancies. And the here was the issue. I had a recurring revenue

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business and the payment processor acted a little bit shady, which is why I decided to shift away

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from that specific processor. And they said, oh, if you want to transfer away from us, that's going

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to cost $150,000. And I was like, what? And they're like, yeah, it's just a lot of work to transfer

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all those things over. I was like, I'm pretty sure it's a button that you click export. But

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the thing is, what was I going to do? I had multiple millions a month in recurring revenue across

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thousands of customers. There was nothing I could do is basically extortion. And so I paid the bill.

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And then I got my, I got all my customer information and I transferred it to a more ethical provider.

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And so I bring these stories up because I hope that you don't have to live through each of these.

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And so let's get to the tactics for how to actually solve against key vendor risk. And I think

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this one can be so nasty because it's one of the only times where like the person on the other

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side of the table has leverage. And if you don't have a good person on the other side, like

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they may use it and they may try to put you out of business or put you just as close to getting

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out of business as they, I mean, they basically can just blackmail you for your own business.

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And the amount they can blackmail you for is proportional to how much money you got or at least

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how much money they think you got. All right. So number one rule always have backups for just

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about everything that's important. So you want to think about this in terms of acquisition,

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conversion, product, and then the layer on top of this obviously is processing, banking,

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anything that you do that facilitates transactions with customers. And so the big solution,

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and we're going to put this in big green letters. So solution number one is redundancy, right?

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Now I want to be clear about redundancy. Sometimes redundancy looks like waste but is actually

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insurance the day you need it. And so think about it this way. If I pay for fire insurance and my

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house never catches on fire, if I knew for a fact that my house would never catch on fire,

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then 100% of that money is completely wasted. I literally just flushed the money down the toilet

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because I didn't get anything for it. If my house does catch on fire, the day it catches on fire,

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every one of those payments was 100% worth it. And so I see redundancy the same way,

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which is that it is insurance against existential threats to the business. And these are the things

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that I'm telling you, now that I have these things in place, it's like one, I have leverage and

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negotiations, which is probably the more reasonable thing that you get in terms of short-term benefits

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of having redundancy. The second is that you sleep great at night knowing that your business can't

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get taken down at least from the things that you know about. Like listen, you can't control the

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unknown unknowns, but at least control the nodes. And if the chickens do come home to roost and you

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do have that bad day and the bill is due, then you will be grateful that you had this redundancy

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in place. The second way of doing this is having mutually dissenture destruction. So what does that

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even mean? So it basically means that if the bigger you get, the bigger you are as a percentage of

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their business, the more they need to keep your business and not let you go. Because basically you

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shift from them being key vendor risk to you becoming key customer risk for them. And so to shift

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in power, basically the bigger you get, the more important you are to them. And so there's this

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saying in the finance world where it's like, if you owe a bank a million dollars, they own you.

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If you owe a bank a billion dollars, you own them, right? Now obviously it depends on the size of

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the bank and things like that, but the saying kind of carries, right? And so you want to understand

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what percentage of the business they're business you are. And that way if they fuck you, they get

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fucked too. So this is where the size of the person that you're working with can be kind of a

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double-edged sword. The small guys are probably the guys that are most likely to do the shady stuff.

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On the other hand, if you become a huge percentage of their business, you have some leverage

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back towards them. And so redundancy number one, mutually intro destruction number two. And here's

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a big one, covenants in terms, which are just fancy ways of saying, what do we agree to? Now,

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kind of like key customers, because key customer key vendor are kind of opposite sides of the same

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point. So all the terms that we asked from our customers before in the last section from mistakes,

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we also can ask now as the customer of the vendor. So we say, hey, if you, if you want to stop doing

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business with us, you have to give us a six or 12 month lead time to letting us know that that's

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going to occur so that we can find another vendor. So this number one is lead time. Number two,

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is you can have a breakup fee associated. Now you can imagine on the other side of the vendor,

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you're like, this guy wants to put a breakup fee on me. My God, this guy's going to be sticky. But

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at this point, when you have key components of the business that are outsourced, which I fundamentally

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don't do this anymore, because I have been screwed so many times, which is why I think that marketing,

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sales, delivery should be in house to a business, because it's just two important payment processing.

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It's unlikely you're going to start a payment process just to be able to process your own payments,

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right? There are some things that are going to be outsourced. You have to have trust. Now,

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one is give the heads up. Two is the breakup fee. Third is that you have fees or fines associated

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with service level agreements. Meaning, you're going to respond to us on this timeline. You're

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going to ship to us products or raw materials on this schedule. You're going to get us

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leads or run this amount of ads on this cadence. And when we think about it that way,

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that allows us to say, if you don't do those things, then you hedge the amount of money that you

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would have lost as a result of them not doing the work with the fine associates. It's basically

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a hedge. Now, if you have a vendor, they're going to try and decrease with that amount of money is.

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But them also having transparency into understanding how important their role is is again,

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a double-edged sword. One is to understand leverage. On the other hand, if you get the term inside

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the deal in terms of the cash required from them to make sure that they're doing their job,

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you cover your downside. And finally, and this is a bit of like an advanced move. But if you become

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significantly bigger than they are, or you're a huge percentage of their business and they're still

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important to you, that's where things like aquahires and acquisitions can be very strategic.

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So you say, hey, under what circumstances would you like to do what you do inside of our company?

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Right? Is there a way that we could work together more permanently? And then you permanently

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align the incentives if they're doing a good job. Now, if they're doing a terrible job, then you

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have someone to do that. But this is how I think through reducing risk with key vendors who are

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core to how we make money. And if they were to disappear, so too with our business.
