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Real life presents the Jack Hibbs podcast with intention and boldness to proclaim

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truth, equip the saints and impact our culture. Hey did you know that Jesus said

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be careful what you hear? Wow that ought to be like on the front door of our

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brains in this day and age of just the internet and the news and everything so

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much. Jesus said be careful what do you hear? So let's take a listen let's take a

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look what is he talking about how does it apply to our lives hopefully you'll

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get a lot out of this okay let's see what happens you can get the outlines of

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this podcast by going to jackhibbs.com slash podcast today if this podcast lifts

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you up and encourages you to live a more fulfilled life in Christ then make

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sure you leave us one of those five star ratings to us that's like saying amen

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or yes then that rating will encourage others to listen now open your hearts to

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what God's word has to say to you here is Jack Hibbs. We're everybody welcome to

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Jack Hibbs show we are glad that you are with us today we're gonna run through

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some things quickly lot of static out there I saw the other day in a health

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food store that you can you can get some pills you can you can get these

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natural pills right it's all the natural labels and you need to get this and

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maybe I should have gotten it but it says it removes confusion and static and

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makes makes your brain work more clearly look if it does or if it doesn't I

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have no idea but boy regarding spiritual issues regarding things of the

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spirit realm things of the Bible what people believe isn't it remarkable let's

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all agree on this people used to say it doesn't matter what you believe remember

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those crazy days those days are long gone it doesn't matter what you believe

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hey listen up everybody news flash your eternity matters based on what you

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believe and so if you I'm assuming if you can go down to your local health food

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type of store right and they tell you there that everything's organic so eat

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their carrots and eat their broccoli and they have their pills section that

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this will bring you mental clarity this will really help you think straight and

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think clear so you need to buy this and take three of them a day imagine imagine

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if that was the need as well for spiritual things guess what it is the need I'm

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gonna argue with you today that it is more important for you to have spiritual

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discernment and knowing what to do with what you hear and should you even be

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hearing it or reading it then taking the beautiful wonderful healthy pill that

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is going to make your brain fantastic because your soul your spirit of who you

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are yes is true your soul your spirit lives forever I know is a debate going on

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right now about is heaven forever first of all it's beautiful for me to be an

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old guy now because after time you live long enough to to hear all the arguments

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and they just now mold enough to where it's like I remember that the 80s I remember

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that in the 70s I remember when that was going on so here's a deal there are

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people that I was looking for a prop of some sorts where they're they're now

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pontificating what it all means and it's like okay what do you mean by that what

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does it all mean I've read my Bible and it mentions heaven but what does it

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really mean have you seen these knuckleheads it's happening everywhere right

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now all of a sudden there's this big push and pressure for you to suddenly after

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millennia to you have found the answer to the real meaning of what he turned

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it is wow none of the none of the previous scholars that have come thousands of

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years before you could ever figure it out but you did you got it and and your

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view your conclusion is it's completely different than historical biblical

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understanding and interpretation even to the point where it takes the simple

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words of Jesus who says for example that you will abide with him in heaven

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forever oh but what what is heaven well it's where he's at but really what is it listen

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what is forever is forever really forever let's start here everybody be very very simply smart

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it's not hard the opening chapters of the Bible you don't have to go very far until you hear

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someone begin to think what did God really mean by that don't you know that

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God doesn't want you to know secret truth there's secret revelation that you don't know about

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and God knows that battle God that made you he knows that the day that you eat of this knowledge

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you'll be just like him and he doesn't want that to happen do you understand that lie

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is picking up more it's always been popular but it's picking up more traction right now more than

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ever and it's but yet it's more dangerous now more than ever because it's found a home in the

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so-called Christian community Jesus said you must be born again well what is that really mean

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the Bible says that the wicked shall inherit eternity hell

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but but yeah that's what the Bible says but what does it really mean okay Peter encountered

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this in his day and in first and second Peter both read both of his epistles he's gonna warn you

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that there there will be those who will seek to bring to you a private or personal

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interpretation Peter says the scriptures have not been given to give anyone the ability

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for a private interpretation did you know that you know when people say something like

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well that's that's your interpretation this is important it's a very good thing it's actually

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a really good thing when people say that when they say well you know Jack that's your interpretation

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for example I could say for God so love the world that he gave gifted his only begotten son

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that whosoever would believe on him would not perish but have everlasting life so you need to trust

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Christ you need to make sure that that's how you avoid parishing is to trust Christ and to revel

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in the joy that God loves you well Jack that's your interpretation that's not my interpretation

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it's not an interpretation it's a regurgitation I am regurgitating what Jesus had

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you think listen do you think God left his truth for those smarty code breakers to figure it out

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and those are the guys that have got the market on truth are you kidding Jesus if anything told us

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you got to become like a child if you're going to enter the kingdom of heaven while everybody's

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trying to stoke up intellectual isums to really believe to really understand what God's word says

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those people are buffoons and doing the exact opposite of what Jesus said needs to happen

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and so I would say this get ready folks strap on your seat belt put on your helmet moving forward

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in life because I don't care who says there are Christian I don't care how many books they've written

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or whatever status they have and have brought it over into the into the theological realm and so

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we're supposed to listen to this person or to that person because because what you know Paul

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warned about that to the Corinthians he said you guys have created personality cults

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some say you're of seifas some of you guys say that you're of a Paulus some of you say that you're

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of Paul and some of you I'm I'm embellishing this next one because I think they were the worst

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ones Paul said and some of you are of Christ I think those guys were the worst ones because they were

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the they were the ones where all these other guys were saying well I'm on team Paul and I'm on

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team of Paulus and then there's the super duper's they come along and say well we're of team

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to be of team Christ is the antithesis of what Jesus Christ is all about okay so there's

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there's there's not to be these personality cults that you should listen to this person or

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that person because they are this name or that name no we are to judge everything against the

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Bible everything against the Bible hey I'm going to shameless shamelessly I think that's the right

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word plug my own book because I wrote it because I believe in it and that is living in the days of

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deception if you don't have if you don't have a copy get a copy it covers this stuff living in the

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days DAZ living in the days right living in the days of deception so much out there and it might

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I might help you so heaven is on the chopping block now for interpretation hell hell can't be real

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that's too harsh we'll talk about that more toward the end spiritual reality is there spirituality

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is there physical reality so of course there's physical reality well which one's going to last

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longer physics reality or spirit spiritual reality which one's going to last longer think of that

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which one was it exists which one was it in existence before the other think of that

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and what about this area where we need to really be growing in discernment discernment is so lacking

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today in the Christian community it's pathetic there is the gift of discernment mentioned in

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scripture that is a supernatural gift given by the Holy Spirit to the believer and that believer

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operates that gift of discernment within the body of Christ it's a gift listed among the gifts

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pastor teacher evangelist so on discernment but all Christians are to exercise discernment

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can we develop it can we build up and strengthen our discernment the answer to that is absolutely yes

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and in a very quick answer Romans 10 17 says faith comes by hearing hearing by the word of God you

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want to build discernment stop allowing so much stuff to be poured into your life through your

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eyes and through your ears and start taking in Bible in your through your eyes and through your

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ears and watch what happens and I want you to consider asking yourself this question or these

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questions do you actually know truth are you sure do you actually know truth now I know that our

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natural response is of course I know truth just slow down for a moment you'd be very wise person to

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say do I actually know truth and then the next question should be do I do I factually do the truth

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do I actually know the truth so I'll unpack that do you know the truth yes because I read so

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and so's book and this is what I've come to the conclusion it's not what I'm asking you

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you can read the encyclopedia and you can skip you can skip truth you can miss it

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in fact you could actually wrongly read the Bible you could read the entire Bible 10 times over

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and read it wrong and have no more discernment and have no more grip on truth why I'll tell you why

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listen and Mark chapter 4 verse 24 listen what Jesus said Mark chapter 4 verse 24 then Jesus said

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to them take heed what you hear oh my gosh wait a minute if we apply Mark 4 24 to news conversations

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articles broadcast podcast newscast you know what has happened our culture has become or we've

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allowed ourselves to become like a dump like people go to a dump and they dump stuff in it that

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they don't want they they back to truck up and they just poured into a dump it's a big hole and

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they've covered up in dirt we when we start having all of these things being blabbed into our

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lives if you don't have discernment listen friends listen if you don't have discernment you are a

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sucker for deception you will be deceived if you don't have excellent discernment so Jesus is

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take heed what you hear so I want to ask you and you can ask me so what are you hearing

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Jesus said take heed watch out the word take heed is scrutinize what you hear wow take heed watch

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out what you hear right now people I'm talking just about Christians Christians think that they

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have to hear everything about everything so that they can be what I'll tell you what Christians

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who believe that they've got to listen to everybody and hear everything mark my words you will

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watch them decline into a path of confusion they will become less and less confident in what they

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believe in and they will become more and more confused and have uncertainties about things like

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heaven hell salvation the cross sin gender you name it

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there is some sort of psychological spiritual emotional fact that what you and I allow ourselves to

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hear Jesus says take heed what you hear by by hearing certain things I think we can conclude from

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the Bible that it will affect us Jesus says take heed what you hear in other words beware

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so so how are you being aware of what you're hearing are you being discerning

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oh I've been fishing for a word that I should know but I'm having like a senior moment discretion

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that's the word I've been looking for you should be very very discrete and discretionary

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about what you hear that's not my opinion Jesus says take heed what you hear what you hear

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here he goes on to say with the same measure you use it will be measured to you and to you who

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hear more will be given he didn't say to you who hear the most or hear more he's telling you

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take heed to what you hear and if you do that you're going to hear more that is by virtue of discernment

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you're going to be able to take in more truth if you're very very very discerning about taking

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in truth Jesus says I'm going to give you the ability to even take in more truth now that's pretty

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cool because that's pretty true in nature and in supernatural realms for example if you're a

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Ben Franklin said a penny saved as a penny earned okay is that smart or not smart it's smart

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if you find a penny on the ground do you take it and put in your pocket what do you do that after

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you have it do you actually believe that you should save a penny I think you should save pennies

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you say Jack is just a penny I know but it's a good practice it's a good practice because listen if

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you practice that it kind of becomes a habit and it's pretty cool because for example I was just

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raising such a way that and I wasn't even raising a Christian home but I was raising in a way

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that you see a penny you pick it up man somebody else is going to pick it up why don't you pick it up

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and then later on when I became a Christian I think it was Chuck Missler some of you might remember

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the guy Chuck Missler said if you ever see a penny you should pick it up for this one thing alone

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it may not be worth much anymore but it does say and God we trust on it that makes it valuable I like

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that so a penny saved as a penny earned well if you keep living like that then you're going to

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have eventually thousands of dollars in pennies not bad so what about truth when you save truth

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biblical truth it's going to compound it's going to grow because you develop an eye and an ear and

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a heart and an eyes for truth listen to this Matthew 27 verse I'm sorry Matthew 7 verse 24

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therefore whoever hears these saints of mine and does them I will liken unto him as a man who's built

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his house on a rock and the rains descended and the floods came and the winds blew and beat on

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that house and it did not fall for it was founded on the rock but listen whoever hears these

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saints of mine and does not do them will be like an unto a fool or a foolish man who built his house

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on sand and the rains descended and the floods came and the winds blew and beat on that house and

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it fell and great was its fall why because they were not careful to take heed as to what they were

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hearing because what you hear folks is what you build on and so let me just grab the

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grab the throat here and shake it there's a lot of people in this day and age who think just

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because they own a microphone and they've got a phone camera that they should be broadcasting

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something they think it's like some some smart thing to do listen when it comes to spiritual matters

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boy and I got somebody I got somebody in mind before there was ever a social media world

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I saw this guy who to this day in my opinion is is nothing but a walking disaster but I'm not

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going to say the name because everybody loves this person because of a personality cult but I

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got to tell you man going back 20 years ago this guy God told me God told me yes praying I was

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praying and God told me to just walk out of the house and go to LAX and get an airplane and

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flight a by-off run and and he'll tell me the next thing to do and this guy's a pastor of a church

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man and he's in a lot of people and then the next thing yeah you know it and then God told me

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that I'm supposed to move to this country and then turns out that they that he never moved to that

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country and then he's speaking at a conference and the topic that he's teaching on is how to hear

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God's voice I almost died laughing this dude talking about God's voice and how to follow God and

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this stuff that he went and dead and said God told me to go do it and then things that I don't

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know why I came hmm I'm sure I'll find out God told me to come here and then I'll go home or

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God told me to move to this new location and the guy never moved okay someone's not telling

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the truth here it was either God or the individual somebody made a mistake I got news for you it's

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not God and then to have a conference and say here's how you listen to the voice of God that's a

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disaster there are people out there that are instructing people and they're experimenting with

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their own lives they don't even got a knock lock down yet in their own life they've never read

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the verse yet that says take heed what you heard they haven't come across that part yet but they've

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got cameras they got a microphone and they're talking about what God's telling them and I think

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you know hmm I've never thought about it that way before and they're living out their Christian

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maybe it's Christian experiment on camera like it's a reality show like like naked and afraid I

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don't watch that by the way I've just seen commercials it looks dumb enough to me to not watch okay

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come on why would you want to walk around naked in Africa or wherever they're at excuse me stupid

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that kind of stuff who needs a reality show but those Christians who have their shows in their

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podcast or they're streaming or whatever they're doing and they are actually they don't think we

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pick up on it but we do they're actually living out their spiritual journey and experimenting on

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camera live they don't realize because they have no discernment that they are confusing thousands of

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people because they don't got it they don't got it right yet in their head and so they're not sure

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about heaven so what do you mean they're not they don't they're not sure about heaven they actually

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aren't sure if heaven is forever or not they're confused about that because the Bible says that

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heavens forever but now they have doubts about it being forever because the same word says that

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hell is forever well that can't be true because that would be mean so I don't like the way that makes me

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feel so I have to think a new thought hmm yeah this is what I'm gonna go with I'm gonna take the same

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Greek word or Hebrew word that describes heaven or hell or heaven and hell being forever and I'm

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gonna apply the forever part because it makes me feel good to the heaven stuff and I'm gonna

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apply the annihilation part to the spooky stuff because I don't want that to be true and do you

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know what if you're in a theological course you would have been rebuked because what's happening

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is that you are taking the justice and righteousness of God and you're diminishing the power

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and sacrifice and value of the atonement of Jesus Christ and the price offered on the cross

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when you say there is no real forever hell that there's annihilation that you vanish there's no

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consciousness after you die without Christ I want you to know that you are taking an absolute

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heretical stab at the value of Christ offering here's the reason why hell is so bad and so forever

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that it warranted God coming from heaven to earth born into this world live in a perfect human life

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and dying on the cross to meet the demands of the law in his perfection and dying for

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our sins in his atonement for us because we are absolute sinners doomed to hell without him

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and then on the third day being resurrected from the dead for justification it's all doctrine

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so important but if you say there's annihilation at the end of life if you don't accept Christ

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it's too bad that somebody didn't tell Jesus that before he left heaven to come here

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that's that's a shame it's too bad Jesus didn't know that because here's my point

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if there's only a heaven for those who believe and there's annihilation for those who don't

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then dude you don't need to come to Christ just go out and eat drink and be merry

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have a blast sleep with as many people as you want drop or do the the drugs do whatever you want

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eat drink and be merry for tomorrow you die don't worry about it there's no consciousness

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after death you're good good to go there's only consciousness for those who

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recent and believe in the Lord Jesus Christ trust in his atonement they go to heaven non-believers

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go into annihilation and they've it says though they never know consciousness no recollection

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zero blank dark nothing no existence over wow really doesn't that make you feel good the only

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problem is it completely attack scripture the fundamentals of scripture and the work that

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Christ did at the cross for you and I for the world to have the opportunity to repent and be saved

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completely takes the power of the gospel away of which in Romans chapter 1 verse 16 posted that

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he was not ashamed of of the gospel of salvation the cross of Christ because it's the power of God

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into salvation but listen if there's annihilation who cares about salvation I wouldn't

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I would just I just go men live it up right now why not come on why not this is insane thinking

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you can't apply the Bible to one side that makes you smile and change it

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redefine things even though it's the same word and to try to explain it away

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well you know this author this scholar said this this person who cares who cares

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what does this Bible say and so this listen I'll land it this way for now this is how you

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develop discernment how do you know if I'll just please forgive me in advance I'm just going to

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make up a name who's famous in the world right now like who's really famous in the world

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just name who's Taylor Swift so let's say Taylor Swift says hey I became a Christian

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I'm born again believer and I read my Bible and it seems to me that this real this this this

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this thing I've been thinking really makes sense to me and here here it is and Taylor Swift that

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the gospel according to Taylor Swift I'm making this up Taylor I'm just using your name because I

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asked the staff the team here who's famous they said your name so if Taylor Swift says I'm

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now a Christian and I believe I believe that you should have to you you should have to buy

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my latest album to be saved people without discernment will go yeah where do I buy it

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I mean do I get on the apple amazon is a Spotify word I buy it now it's a ridiculous example

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but when somebody says hey I used to be or I am the I am the the dean of of what's so ever university

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college of you know Christian theology and this is now the way that we understand what Jesus really

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meant about male and female and you redefine that okay you're bad enough but you're in a place of

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authority and let's be honest everybody if you have a microphone and a camera all of a sudden

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you are in some way an influencer even if it's one person that you influence and if you're not

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influencing them toward truth then you are influencing toward error and the Bible

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old and New Testament read Deuteronomy and read the book of Revelation about those who lead people

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into error oh that's right it's okay because I was going to say they're thrown into hell

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but it doesn't exist that's convenient almost got stuck there

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no actually hell is for real and it's really hot and when I say for real it's not like it's long

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like people and excuse me people are not in hell going it's taking so long do you know what

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eternity means timelessness which if you're into physics it's kind of cool because time is a

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physical property of a physical universe that means that time only is occupied or constrained

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within a physical realm it's so fun to think outside of the physical realm there's no time

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there's no time in the spirit realm if the spirit realm wants to communicate to us and the

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Bible does this it will communicate that there was silence in heaven for the space of a half hour

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but heaven's eternal so in the book of Revelation what was what was John being told John a human

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was being told that there was silence to his understanding as a human because he's bound by

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physics half hour in eternity there is no time so somebody is not in hell for a long time

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somebody is not in heaven for a long time people are in hell that's where they're at

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people are in heaven that's where they're at the moment we start talking about long time short time

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part time we're looking at it wrong the realities Jesus said both of those places are forever

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Jesus says the righteous shall inherit eternity the Bible says Jesus tells us that the wicked will inherit

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hell for eternity so stop listening to people who are trying to learn stuff for themselves and

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they don't have it down yet but they have a camera and they have a microphone you're going to

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be led astray folks one more time march chapter 4 verse 24 Jesus said take heed what you hear

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you didn't say take heed how you hear he said take heed what and the what is everything that's

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out there so be very very careful all right Bible build your discernment up in the Bible you'll

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do great stick to the Bible always the Bible