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Real life presents the Jack Hibbs podcast with intention and boldness to proclaim

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truth, equip the saints and impact our culture.

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Hey, did Jesus ever walk around before he was born?

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That sounds crazy, right?

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Did Jesus ever walk around before he was born?

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Well, according to the Bible, we are going to be looking at what it means in the

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scriptures when they announce the angel of the Lord appeared unto, well, we're going

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to find out.

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You can get the outlines of this podcast by going to jackhibbs.com slash podcast.

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Today, if this podcast lifts you up and encourages you to live a more fulfilled life in Christ,

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Now open your hearts to what God's word has to say to you.

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Here is Jack Hibbs.

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So as we look at the word of God together, there is this remarkable thread that goes all

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the way through from Genesis to Revelation.

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And that is this title, this description, this label of one who is called the angel of

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the Lord.

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And the first thing that we want to make notice of is this.

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It's in John chapter eight.

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Please mark this down.

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Of course, the scribes, the Pharisees, they're attacking Jesus at every turn.

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That's what they did.

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I'm actually grateful for them because it's because of their shenanigans that they

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asked all kinds of atheistic type questions regarding the deity of Jesus.

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And he busted them every time with his eternal answers and truths and wisdom.

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And so we're grateful.

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In John chapter eight, they are trying to say to Jesus that they, the religious hierarchy,

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that they are the children of Abraham, they're the real deal.

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And Jesus, we don't even know where you've come from because after all your mom got pregnant

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and at least we know who our father is, who is your father.

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And they're really laying into him.

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And of course, he was never bothered by that.

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He knew who he was.

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And in doing that, Jesus offered up a remarkable answer that should have caused them to run

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back to their libraries and go to work on some research when he said this.

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I tell you that before Abraham was, I am, he says, and by the way, the I am is the ego

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and me, which is before Abraham was, I am before Abraham was, I am the self contained eternal

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existing one.

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I've never had a birth.

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I'll never had to have a death.

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I never had a beginning.

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I'll never have an end.

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I'm eternal.

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That's what ego and me is in Greek, the I am.

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Which is, by the way, the same of the Hebrew when Moses meets the Lord in the burning

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bush in Exodus.

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When Moses meets the Lord on Mount Sinai, a whoreb, when the bush is burning, and the

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Lord says, I want you to go and tell the children of Israel who sent you.

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And thank God for questions, right?

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Abraham says, I mean, Moses says, who do I tell them sent me?

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Isn't that amazing?

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Moses is remarkably, Moses would have known the names of all these Egyptian gods, but

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Moses didn't know the name of the one true creator, God.

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And God says to Moses out of the burning bush, you go tell them.

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I am that I am sent you to them.

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The self-contained eternal existing God.

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So Jesus answers the scribes and Pharisees in John 8 and blows their minds, just blows

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their minds because he says, Abraham came into existence.

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I saw that.

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I know that.

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And Abraham rejoiced to see my day and he saw it.

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Jesus told the scribes and Pharisees, I met Abraham.

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Abraham met me.

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We had a conversation together at least once.

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And you guys want to talk about pedigree, you guys want to talk about who knows who.

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You guys want to drop names?

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Well, I met Abraham and the scribes and Pharisees immediately respond and say, what?

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You're not even 50 years old, which is really weird.

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You're not even 50 years old.

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How is it that you claim that you have met Abraham?

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See, what do they say 50?

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When Abraham had been dead for well over a thousand years, nearly 2,000 years by Jesus's

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day, it's kind of a cool thing.

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Back in the first century era, and maybe this is too much information, but back in 2000

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years ago in the first century era, the rabbis believed that when a man came to the age

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of 30, he was a, for the lack of a better term, he was a functioning, viable, responsible,

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young man at the age of 30.

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He could inherit property.

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He could inherit all that the father owns.

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He is, he and the father are one in life.

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A 30 year old Hebrew, Jew, man enters into his, heritants, his existence, his prominence

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at the age of 30, but they didn't say 30.

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They said 50.

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They should have said, you're not even, you know, 16, you're not even 1500 years old.

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How can you have met Abraham?

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They said you're not even 50, 50.

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They believed that the age of 50, a person entered into their absolute spiritual maturity.

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They entered into the realm of wise, the elderly, the gray hair, 50.

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How in the world can you talk about meeting Abraham?

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And saying such a thing, when you're not even qualified to be 50 years old, where a Jew

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enters into their full maturity to know spiritual matters, you might be over 30 or 30 and over.

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Okay, big deal.

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We know that you didn't have an earthly father, okay?

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We know that your dad is not known.

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Your mom got pregnant, who knows how?

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Because we don't believe in you.

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And we doubt your spiritual maturity even because you're not even 50 years of age.

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Jesus blows them up.

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I mean, just blows their minds away.

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They should have run back to their scriptures and studied that.

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Why?

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Market down, friends, this is pretty fun.

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Genesis chapter 16, verse 7.

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Now the angel of the Lord found her by a spring of water, Hey, Gar, in the wilderness by

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the spring on the way to shore, the angel of the Lord.

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There are angels who serve the Lord.

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There are angels who do the Lord's ministry.

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There are angels who are around the throne of God.

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There are angels who are dispatched from God's presence to slay 185,000 Assyrians in the

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day of battle.

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There's the angel who brings Daniel's answer of Daniel chapter 9 and 10.

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There's the angel Gabriel who makes, he's the public relations officer for God.

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He makes the announcements to Israel, always announcing, always announcing.

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There's the angel Michael who's always fighting.

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Michael is always fighting and defending Israel.

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And Gabriel is always making announcements regarding Israel.

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These are angels.

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Lucifer is the angel of the morning or the bright and morning star.

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Angel Lucifer now, of course, fallen as Diablos, the devil Satan, the dragon, yet Lucifer

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Satan is an angel.

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There's fallen angels.

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There's holy angels, but there's only one angel of the Lord in every time.

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When you read your Bible, look, I do believe I may be wrong about this.

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You can go prove me right or wrong, it doesn't matter, I'm happy with being wrong on this.

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I know the old King James, I know the new King James.

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I don't know about the other versions, but the old and the new King James, they will always

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have the angel of the Lord capitalized, angel capitalized, signifying that this is somebody

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different than your run-of-the-mill, if they're such a thing, angel.

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Hey, Gar, encounters the angel of the Lord, which is known as a Theophonies, or pre-incarnate,

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that is a pre-birth Bethlehem, appearance of Jesus Christ.

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Why is this important?

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Because Jesus Christ is eternal.

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The Son of God has always been.

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And we have numerous accounts now in this podcast together, we can only touch on a few,

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but I hope this gets you excited to go find out more in your own personal study as who

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is the angel of the Lord.

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You're going to be delighted to find out.

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And so how about this, Genesis, chapter 22, verse 11.

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But the angel of the Lord called to him from heaven and said, Abraham, Abraham.

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So Abraham said, here I am, notice the angel of the Lord called out to Abraham.

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Exodus chapter 3, verse 2.

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And the angel of the Lord, capital, angel, appeared to him in a flame of fire from the midst

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of a bush, so he looked and behold, that's Moses.

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The bush was burning with fire, but the bush was not consumed.

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Notice that whole thing starts with the angel of the Lord appearing to Moses in a burning

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bush or what looked like a burning bush.

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That's Exodus 3.20.

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How about this?

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In chapter 22, verse 22, then God's anger was aroused because he went and the angel of

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the Lord took his stand in the way as an adversary against Baileum.

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Watch this.

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And he was riding on his donkey and his two servants were with him.

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Verse 22, the angel of the Lord appeared to stop Baileum from performing his unsanctioned

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act as a prophet of God.

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He prostituted his office.

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The donkey recognized that it was the angel of the Lord and it freaked out the donkey.

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And you remember the story, Baileum began to beat his donkey.

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And all the while not recognizing.

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And then the angel of the Lord speaks to Baileum and said, this donkey just saved your

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life.

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A donkey being ridden by a donkey.

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But the donkey with four legs is smarter and more discerning than the donkey with two legs.

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And the angel of the Lord intervened in Baileum's bad decision making.

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The angel of the Lord appeared remarkable.

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Now we do know from Scripture in the New Testament that angels can appear and disappear.

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In the Scriptures, the Bible warns us that on the negative side watch out because Satan who's a fallen angel,

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do you not know that Satan who's an angel of light can appear to deceive people?

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Wow, we also know though in the positive that the book of Hebrews tells us that we need to be careful

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how we treat strangers that we are in contact with because many people have entertained angels

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in their presence unaware.

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Why would God do this?

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I don't know, but it happens.

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I'm not aware of any time that happened in my life, but that's exactly what the Bible

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said.

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Watch out, be kind, walk in the Spirit, be gentle, be nice to strangers because you may

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be talking to, ministering to, hanging out with somebody you don't know, but they're an actual angel.

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And I'm assuming, just an assumption that God would either have that angel there for my protection

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or my guidance or warning or to test my heart.

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I mean, who knows?

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We don't know, so we need to check our attitude always.

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How about this, Judges chapter 2, verse 1.

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Then the angel of the Lord came up from Gilgal to Buckham and said, I told you, I, sorry,

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I led you up from Egypt and brought you to the land of which I swore to your fathers.

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And I said, I will never break my covenant with you.

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Judges 2, verse 1, the angel of the Lord appears and speaks.

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How about Judges 6, verse 11.

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Now the angel of the Lord came and sat under the tearment of the tree, which was in Ophra.

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And watch what happens.

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The Bible says the angel sat down, the angel of the Lord sat down under a tree, which

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belonged to Joe Ash, the abogright, while his son, Gideon, thrashed wheat in the wine

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press in order to hide from Midianites, Judges chapter 6, verse 11.

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Here's a, here's a description where the, it is written down where the angel of the Lord

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sat down under a tree, manifestation.

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We know, we'll see this soon, looked like a normal guy, didn't glow, looked normal,

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but he was the angel of the Lord.

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Judges 13, verse 3.

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And the angel of the Lord appeared to the woman and said to her, indeed now, you are

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barren and have borne no children, but you shall conceive and bear a son.

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The angel of the Lord appeared.

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My memory serves me right.

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I just have the reference here that I believe would be regarding Samson, because Samson's

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birth was prophesied by the angel of the Lord.

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The mother, Samson's mom was, it was a miracle for her to conceive, because she couldn't

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become a pregnant, and the angel of the Lord says, basically, you're going to be pregnant,

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but it's the angel of the Lord saying this.

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You see, Jack, how do you know it's just not any angel, because it's capital A angel, angel

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of the Lord is a manifestation of Jesus Christ Himself before Bethlehem.

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There's more.

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And Samuel, chapter 24, verse 16.

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And when the angel stretched out his hand over Jerusalem to destroy it, the Lord relented

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from the destruction and said to the angel who was destroying the people, it is enough.

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Now restrain your hand.

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Watch this.

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And the angel of the Lord was by the threshing floor of Argana, the Jebusite, that second

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Samuel 24, 16.

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You say, well, that's kind of weird.

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It's consistent, because when you read Isaiah, chapter 60, out to chapter 66, when you

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read Joel, chapter 2 and 3, when you read Revelation, chapter 19 to 22, you have passages

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there that describe none other than the one who is the angel of the Lord, who is the

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one who has on his thigh of his robe, written King of kings and Lord of lords, his robe

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is splattered in blood, because he makes war against those who are attacking his people.

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Israel, he will fight for Israel.

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The Scripture says, as he did in the day of battle, and in Revelation 19, he comes together

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his church that's in heaven, the door is opened, and we exit heaven, Revelation 19 with him

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coming back to earth, and he will strike the earth with his wrath, with the word of his mouth

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as the sharp sword that proceeds from his mouth to judge the nations.

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And all that, by the way, begins with the destruction of the Antichrist at Maguetto,

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or Armageddon.

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him and said, arise and eat, because the journey is too great for you, speaking about Elijah.

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The angel of the Lord ministered to him.

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of Gesemini, they were angels, no problem.

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The angel of the Lord, as I'm stressing, whenever that happens in Scripture, sit up and take

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notice, market, highlight it, circle it, search that word out, and find out that Jesus, my

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friends, especially those of you who are bound up in the cults, Jesus is not an angel.

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Jesus is not a created being.

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Jesus is the anglios of the Lord.

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He is the spokesman.

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He is the logos, the word of God, the angel of the Lord.

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First King's 19, 35, and it came to pass on a certain night that the angel of the Lord

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went out and killed in the camp of the Assyrians, 185,000.

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Passages like that where people say, I don't read the Old Testament, the God of the Old

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Testament scares me.

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I read the New Testament.

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I like that God.

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Same God.

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It's the same God, different dispensations.

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The Old Testament economy was operated by God's Word and God related to mankind in a different

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way, certain way, all of it leading up to the fulfillment of the Old and the revelation

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of the new.

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It's the same God.

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That's why during this age of grace, call it this dispensation of grace as Ephesians

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chapter 1 and 2 says dispensation.

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People will get all their knickers and all bound up when they hold dispensation.

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Hey, the word dispensation is in the Bible, folks.

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And right now you and I are in the dispensation of grace.

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It appears, it seems to me if I understand Bible prophecy correctly, the dispensation

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of grace started at the birth of the church or you could push it and say at the ministry

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of Jesus commencing, but certainly by Pentecost, then the gospel of grace goes out to all the

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earth.

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It's been going out for 2000 years.

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of the rapture.

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Then God focuses on Israel, the salvation of his people, those who will believe, and he

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winds up using them and 144,000 of them and more to present the gospel to the ends of

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the earth.

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And that's a study for some other time, but do keep that in mind.

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But the angel of the Lord said to Elijah, the Tishbites, arise, go up to meet the messengers

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of the king of Samaria, and say to them, is it because there is no God in Israel that

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you are going to inquire embeils above the God of Echron, the angel of the Lord appears.

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Second Kings, chapter 19, verse 35, I thought I read that one, maybe not, yeah, I already

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Second Chronicles, chapter 21, second Chronicles 21, beginning at verse 12.

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Either three years of famine, this is the challenge.

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You're either going to have three years of famine or three months to be defeated by your

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foes with the sword of your enemies overtaking you or third option.

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For three days, the sword of the Lord, the plague in the land, with the angel of the Lord

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destroying throughout all the territory of Israel, now consider what answer I should

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take back to him, the Lord, capital, who sent me.

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And that is the angel of the Lord speaking to David regarding his transgression.

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Because you sinned, you're going to be chastised, you can pick how.

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That came from the angel of the Lord, powerful, almost done, folks.

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The angel of the Lord, sorry, this is Psalm 34, verse 7, the angel of the Lord encamps

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all around those who fear him and delivers them.

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I love that.

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You know, it's cool about that.

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That's Psalm Psalm 34, seven, you know, it's neat about that.

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Do you remember when God told Moses, I want you to, you're going to be leaving

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Egypt, okay, you're going to head out, you're going to go into the wilderness and Moses

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said, okay, all that's great.

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But I'm not going to go with an angel.

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I don't want an angel.

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He said, I'm not going to go unless you go with us in the great.

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Moses said, I'm not going unless you're going with this.

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And the Lord said, I'm going with you, I'm going to lead you.

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I love that.

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I'm going to do it by the angel of the Lord.

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Psalm 35, verses 5 and 6, Psalm 35, verses 5 and 6, let them be like chaff before the

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wind and let the angel of the Lord chase them.

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The word chase is what you can imagine, pursue them.

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Let their way be dark and slippery and let the angel of the Lord pursue them.

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It's scary, isn't it, to think that Psalm 35, verses 5 and 6, wow.

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You know, I'm going to, I'm going to interrupt myself and put this in there where I believe

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it's the warning that's in Ezekiel.

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I may be wrong about that, but it comes to my mind that because the children of Israel

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in the wilderness refuse to trust God.

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You know, listen, when we don't trust God, I'm going to put it blunt.

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When you and I, when you and I trust ourselves, it's because we are looking to our own authority.

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When you trust someone else, you're looking to their authority.

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When you don't trust yourself, you're not relying on upon your authority.

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When you do not trust others, you are not relying upon their authority.

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That's okay, I guess.

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But when you do not trust God, you are the whole thing about not trusting God means this.

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You do not believe in his authority.

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That's what it means.

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You say, I love God.

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I obey God.

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Are you sure?

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Do you worry about stuff that God said, don't worry about it?

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If God says, I'll never leave you or forsake you and now you're afraid that God's going

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to leave you and forsake you, you're not trusting him.

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You're telling him that he's not true.

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He doesn't keep his word.

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He can't be trusted.

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He's not honest.

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Well, when the Scriptures tell us that he'll never leave us or forsake us, that's beautiful.

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It's awesome.

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He's bound by his word, you know?

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In Psalm 138, the Bible tells us that he will honor his word above his own name.

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That's huge because there's no other name given among men whereby we must be saved

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that at the name of Jesus, every knee will bow and every tongue will confess that Jesus

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Christ, who is the angel of the Lord, that whoever confesses that Jesus Christ is

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Lord to the glory of God the Father.

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The shall be saved.

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Isaiah 37, verse 6, then the angel of the Lord went out and killed in the camp of the

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Assyrians 185,000.

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We read that earlier.

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And when the people arose early in the morning, the corpses were there.

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What about Zechariah 1, verse 12, Zechariah 1, verse 12, then the angel of the Lord answered

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and said, oh, Lord of hosts, how long will you not have mercy on Jerusalem and on the

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cities of Judah?

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He's entered.

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This is Christ's interceding against which you were angry these 70 years, the angel of the

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Lord in ministry.

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Finally this before I make some more comment.

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Zechariah 3, verse 1, Zechariah 3, verse 1, then he showed me Joshua, the high priest.

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This is not Joshua, the commander of the book of Joshua.

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This is a different Joshua, the high priest that is in Zechariah, chapter 3.

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Then he showed me Joshua, the high priest, standing before the angel of the Lord and Satan

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standing at his right hand to oppose him, Zechariah 3, verse 1.

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So I'm going to throw out some real quick and then we'll wrap this up.

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I'll give you one, Abraham is encamped, what seems to be the foothills overlooking Sodom

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and Gomorrah.

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You know that his nephew, Lot, is down in Sodom and Gomorrah.

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Abraham is not, Abraham is looking from afar at this oasis, this incredibly oasis.

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The Bible says that Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding area was a well-watered plane.

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That's a very nice way of putting it.

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It was luxurious.

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And it's where Lot lived, Abraham did not.

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But the Bible tells us that these three, let's just, I would just put it like this.

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We'll kind of look through it with Abraham's eyes.

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Three men approach, and Abraham greets them and realizes that in some way shape or form

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it doesn't tell us how, but Abraham realizes these are holy servants of the Most High God.

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What's amazing about this is, some Bible versions will tell you that it's three angels or

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it's the angel of the Lord and two angels.

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We know that there's three of them, but then as we keep going, it becomes clear of what

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or who are they.

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The angel of the Lord is speaking with Abraham.

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Abraham is speaking with him and with them probably no doubt.

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Abraham in true, oriental fashion offers them a meal.

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It's very normal to this day.

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The hospitality is a big deal in the Middle East, the ancient orient.

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And he tells Sarah, prepare a meal.

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The angel of the Lord says to the angels, should I reveal to Abraham what I'm about to do?

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If two angels continue on and you know the tremendous account in Scripture where they

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make it into Sodom and Gomorrah, looking for a lot to deliver a lot in his family, but

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the homosexual community are seeking to rape these two visitors, which means think about

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this.

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If the homosexual community said we want to know them, the word is we want to know them

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intimately.

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They're beating on Lott's door and says, where's the man who came into your house earlier

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today?

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Bring them out to us.

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We want to know them carnally.

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Lott says, no, no, no, don't do that.

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Don't do that.

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I'll give you my daughters.

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I'll give you my, you could do whatever you want with my daughters.

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Isn't that horrible?

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They didn't want.

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They didn't want a woman or women.

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They wanted guys.

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They're thinking, these two guys are guys, they're men.

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We want them.

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That's how normal they looked.

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And they're beating and beating and beating on the door.

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Lott's talking to them.

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The angels reach out.

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They pull Lott back in and they try to break down the door and the angels strike them

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with blindness.

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It didn't stop them from trying to commit this horrific sexual immorality.

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But the angels, the Bible says, smoke them with blindness.

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The angels got Lott and his children and his wife out.

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But the Bible tells us as they're leaving, Lott's wife looks back.

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Now God is not angry, rude, mean, and short-tempered.

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To man, God turned her into a pillar of salt and killed her because she looked back.

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She didn't look back to see or to watch the place be destroyed.

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She looked back because that's where she belonged.

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That's the world she loved.

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She wanted that world.

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And she was, according to the Bible, turned to a pillar of salt.

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Not continued out.

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The angels brought down fire and brimstone and consumed Sodom and Gomorrah.

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All the while, the angel of the Lord sat with Abraham the entire time.

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It wasn't three angels.

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It was two angels being led by the angel of the Lord which is Christ Himself, a Christophonies,

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a Theophonies.

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It's not unusual in the Old Testament which means we need to read our Bibles a little

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slower when we're going through the Scriptures and like the Psalm 40, Psalm 40, and the Book

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of Hebrews echoes it and repeats it, behold, in the volume of the book it is written of

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me speaking of Christ.

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It's true.

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The angel of the Lord is none other than Jesus Christ before He was born as a man in Bethlehem.

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When I say man, it born as a baby coming into this world, taking upon Himself the form

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of a man, mankind, becoming one of us.

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Isn't it amazing as I end right now at the right hand of God the Father is God the Son,

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a glorified man?

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You ever stop to think about that?

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Jesus Christ is 100% God always has been, but He's also 100% man ever since He was conceived

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in Bethlehem today at the right hand of God is your intercessor in mind, our advocate.

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That's why Paul told Timothy that there's one mediator between man and God.

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It is the man, Christ, Jesus, the man, Christ, Jesus, the man, human, Christ, Messiah, Yahoshua,

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Yeshua, Yah, Jesus, the eternal God.

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