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Real Life presents the Jack Hibbs Podcast with intention and boldness to proclaim

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truth, equip the saints, and impact our culture.

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Everybody, do you know Jesus or do you know about Jesus?

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What about conviction? What about condemnation? Is there a difference?

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We're going to find out right now.

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You can get the outlines of this podcast by going to jackhibbs.com slash podcast.

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Today, if this podcast lifts you up and encourages you to live a more fulfilled life in Christ,

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then make sure you leave us one of those five star ratings.

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To us, that's like saying, amen or yes, then that rating will encourage others to listen.

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Now, open your hearts to what God's word has to say to you.

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Here is Jack Hibbs.

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Hey, everybody. Welcome to the Jack Hibbs Podcast.

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And we are very grateful that you are with us and that you get something out of this program

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together. I hope you do as we look into the Word of God.

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If all else fails, right, if I quote you a Bible verse, that's victory enough.

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Just think of the magnitude of God's word, the holiness of God's word, the purity of the power

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of God's word, where if we grab one verse and we unpack that verse, the things that it will

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ring forth to us is truly why it says of itself, the Bible, that God's word will not return void

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when he sends it out, but it will accomplish that very task for which he sent it.

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So you never do wrong by reading and studying the Word of God. And when you read the Bible,

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you just don't read it to read it, though we do read it to read it.

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But you also need to pause much like you eat a meal. Sometimes we eat a meal on the go,

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and sometimes we sit down and just take it in. And sometimes in this busy world of ours,

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we actually sit down at a meal with friends and family and spend hours, spend hours.

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I was at a restaurant with some friends about a year ago. They took Lisa and I out. They were

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treating us at this pretty high end steakhouse here in Southern California. And we were there so

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long that the manager came and said, can you guys leave now? We've got to get other people in here.

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And our friend who paid for the whole thing as a gift to us, so sure we'll leave. And we walked out

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and he said, I'll never spend a penny there again. I thought that was great. But have you ever

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sat around the Bible like that to where it's just gone on and gone on to where you are

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marinated in the Bible? So you want to make sure that you carve out time for that. That would mean

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that you'd make a Bible priority. And so somebody will think, well, wait a minute. If I make that much

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time for the Bible, I won't have any time for myself. That's right. That's perfect. That's how you know

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you're growing in Jesus when you're no longer preoccupied with yourself. But let's talk about

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self for a moment. The Bible tells us Jesus is speaking in John chapter 16. Listen to this.

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Jesus is a little while, verse 16, John 16, 16, a little while. And you will see me no more. And

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again, a little while. And you will see me because I go to the Father. Then some of the disciples

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among them said among them, what is this that he says a little while and you will not see me?

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And then again, a little while and you will see me. And because I go to the Father, they said this

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therefore, what is this that he says a little while? We do not know what he is saying. Now,

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Jesus knew that they had desired to ask him a question about this. And he said to them,

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are you inquiring among yourselves about what I said a little while and you will not see me? And

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then again, a little while you will see me. Most assuredly, I say to you, listen to this,

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that you will weep and you will lament. But the world will rejoice and you will be sorrowful.

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Sounds like today, huh? But your sorrow will be turned into joy. Okay, this is important to

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Jesus announces that the Holy Spirit will be coming to the believer. In fact, back at verse

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9, listen to this, verse 7, he says, nevertheless, I tell you the truth, it is to your advantage that I

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go away. For if I do not go away, the helper will not come to you. But I will depart and I will

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send him to you. And when he has come, here it is. Listen, he, the Holy Spirit, will convict the

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world of sin and of righteousness and thirdly of judgment of sin because they do not believe in me,

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of righteousness because I go to my father and you see me no more. And thirdly of judgment

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because the ruler of this world is judged. He said, I still have many more things to say to you,

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but you cannot bear them now. However, when he noticed the personal pronoun, he, the Holy Spirit

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of truth, when he comes, he will guide you into all truth for he will speak, he will not speak on his

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own authority. But whatever he hears, he will speak and he will tell you things to come. Let's talk

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about conviction. Let's talk about conviction out of these three things. Jesus says that the Holy

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Spirit is going to bring conviction. So let's back up. Let's roll back the hands of time

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when we were not followers of Jesus. Now, some of you have always been followers of Jesus,

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but you'll still be able to relate to what I'm saying. Again, we're talking about conviction.

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And if you're taking notes, please mark this down. Conviction. Can you tell me,

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is that kind of a trick question? Can you tell me what conviction feels like?

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Can you tell me what conviction of the Holy Spirit feels like? Jesus said, the Spirit of God will

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come and convict you of sin. I'm going to put this out to you and have you ponder this.

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Conviction of the Holy Spirit feels the same, at least it does to me,

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when I was not a Christian, condemnation felt the same way that conviction feels now as a believer.

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Let me explain this. As a non-believer, condemnation is that sense of foreboding of boy,

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am I in trouble with God or gods or whatever is out there, I'm in trouble. There is this condemnation

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that gives you a sense of hopelessness, of crisis as it were of the Spirit. When we talk about

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conviction, when Jesus says the Holy Spirit will convict the world of sin, the conviction and

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condemnation feeling is the same. So watch, the world is convicted of their sins, but John chapter

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3 tells us the world is under condemnation. So there's no real difference in feeling. Now I don't

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want to suggest for a moment that God made us automatons and so dull that we don't have feelings.

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Of course we have feelings. We're not to trust our feelings, we're not to be led by our feelings,

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feelings or nothing that should guide us, but when you don't know God and you've done wrong,

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or when you come to the knowledge of God knowing that you've done wrong, you feel condemned.

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And that's that condemnation that you respond to. The Holy Spirit is reminding you right now.

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The Son of God died on the cross for your sins and rose again from the grave. You don't believe

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that and so you will die in your sins. Does that ring a bell? Do you know anyone else who said

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because you do not believe you will die in your sins? Is that ring a bell? Yes. Jesus said that.

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Jesus said that to the scribes and Pharisees. You guys know the law and I'm telling you that this

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is the truth, but you won't believe. And he says, unless you believe that I am, you will die in your

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sins. Now they were convicted of their sins because of the Holy Spirit doing his job. I don't

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even have to interview them. You don't even have to ask them. It doesn't even say that they've

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sensed the conviction and condemnation. Jesus told us that they were condemned, but they didn't

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believe in him. So they blew off the conviction of the Holy Spirit. They blew off that conviction

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and they remained in their condemnation. And in that condition, if you die, that is committing

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blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. That's how you commit it. Yes, my Catholic friends, you've been

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lied to blasphemy of the Holy Spirit or the unpardonable sin is not suicide as terrible as suicide is.

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The only one unforgivable sin in the Bible is crystal clear. It is to reject the Holy Spirit's

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witness of Jesus and you die in that condition. There's no hope for you in this world or in the

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world to come. You're lost. So please don't entertain that. So let's kind of walk this through.

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A non-believer does wrong in the world and they're convicted. Disney, Pinocchio,

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in that cartoon would have you believe that Jiminy Cricket is telling him that he's just done

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something wrong. Why does that happen? If the guy is not a Christian, why should he care?

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Frankly, let's be blunt. We don't care if the guy is a Christian or not. It's irrelevant. The

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Holy Spirit's doing his job. The Holy Spirit right now is convicting every person in the world

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who's doing wrong. Jesus said he would. With what purpose in mind to lead them to repentance,

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to bring them from their condemnation, read the book of Galatians, read the book of Romans,

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that's all that Paul's talking about is that we were once condemned. We were once in this world

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lost and alienated from God. We had no hope. We were going to hell. And then the truth came.

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And when the truth, listen, when the light of the truth shown upon our wickedness, what did we do with

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it? Did you knock the light over? Did you run away from the light? Or did you stand there and

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melt as it were in total terror? Because you got caught. You were found out. God knows. You were

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condemned before you even showed up. But now you're convicted. And then that's what you read in

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the book of Acts where the keeper of the jail cries out, what must I do to be saved?

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So you want to make sure that you don't live in a realm of condemnation thinking that it's

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conviction and you're okay and you'll never move out of that lifestyle or out of that world of sin.

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Condemnation leads you to understand that you're being convicted by the Holy Spirit which leads

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to repentance and you become a believer. Now watch this. What about conviction in a believer's life?

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Does the Holy Spirit convict believers? The answer is an overwhelming yes.

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In 1 John 1.9, the Bible tells us, if we confess our sins, he's faithful and just to forgive us

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of all of our sins and declenses from all unrighteousness. That book is written to believers only.

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So when the Holy Spirit says to you and I, the believer, what you just said, what you just did,

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what you just thought is wrong. And I'm calling you out on it. We're not condemned.

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Condemnation is now gone. We are, we are God's children. Romans chapter 8 tells us that there is

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therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus. We're not condemned any longer

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the moment we accept Christ. But we do thank God. We do experience conviction of sin

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because we're not perfect because we're not sinless. We haven't died yet or the rapture hasn't

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happened yet. We still drag around these bodies and we're not fully redeemed. These bodies are

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still influencing our lives. And so when we sin in this world, the Spirit of God says to his

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children, hey, that's wrong. Here's, here's, it's clumsy, but it should be simple. Is,

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this should be our response. Lord, you are correct. That, that was wrong. What I just did.

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I agree with you that I should not think that way. And I'm asking you, Lord, based upon Jesus Christ

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merits of Jesus Christ, his cross, his blood shed for me. I ask you, Father, to forgive me of my

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sin that I just thought that thought. And I ask you to wash me clean in Jesus name. And thank you,

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Lord. Thank you for that. In Jesus name, I pray, amen. If you sin and you confess that sin to God,

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he is faithful and just to forgive you of your sin, to cleanse us from all unrighteousness,

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based upon what, based upon what Jesus Christ did for you and I. So you have the nonbeliever

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who is condemned, who could receive conviction where the Spirit of God is seeking to wake him up.

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He will make a choice to either run to Christ and be relieved of his burden, much like pilgrims

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progress, John Bunyan's great illustration of the Christian life. The weight of sin will roll

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off his back and you come to Christ and you're free to start your journey with Christ, to follow him.

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Or if you're already a believer, the Spirit of God will convict you for what reason,

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to maintain fellowship, to maintain communication. Thank God we do not lose our salvation when we

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sin and then run back to church on Sunday, almost in the panic. Oh my gosh, it's Thursday. Don't

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let me die until Sunday. I gotta go get my life to Jesus on Sunday. I gotta go get born again

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again and again and again and again. No, you don't. You're only born again once. If you confess

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your sin right where you're at right now and you're a believer in the Lord Jesus Christ, you

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confess your sin to him. What does that mean? It means that you agree with him that it is sin.

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What does that mean? It means that you hate it. Listen, if you don't hate the sin that offends God,

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if you don't hate the sin in your life that actually is responsible for crucifying Jesus,

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just my sin. Forget you. Just my sin was enough to crucify the Son of God. Me, Jack,

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that's why it was so horrifically offensive for the for the scribes and Pharisees to say,

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we have no sin. More Abraham said, we're righteous. Jesus said, if you were Abraham's descendant,

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you'd believe in me. To say that you believe in Jesus is to say what? That he's the Lamb of God

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who takes away the sins of the world. But they didn't believe that. They didn't believe. They needed

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that. So the question comes down to this. As a believer, I maintain fellowship with God,

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walking in a perpetual state of revival, which is the repentance of sin. Lord,

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and listen, friend, this is not like a Muslim. I forget the name of it. There is a Muslim

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instrument. It's made out of, sometimes it's made out of wood. Sometimes it's made out of

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looking for something to show you what they do with it. I have one of my office downstairs.

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They have a handle and it's got chains on it and about two feet long and embedded within the

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links of the chain is animal bones, glass, rock, fish hooks or claws from animals. It's brutal.

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And you beat yourself on the back with it in Islam and you thrash, open your back and your blood

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is to help to make an atonement for your sins. Watch how stupid this is. How many times do you have

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to do this per person? But so what? What you had a bad thought? How many how many lashes is that

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in Islam? How many how many times do you vlog or cut your head? You ever seen Muslims

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in the Middle East, cut in their foreheads? How come? When you watch CNN, CNN, we'll never show this

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kind of stuff. You should watch this stuff. You want to be a Muslim? Here you go. Get yourself a

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set of razor blades because you're going to need to bleed. You don't have to do that.

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Well, you might say, well, that's why I'm not a Muslim, pastor. I am an upstanding member of the

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first Bapticustal Church of Los Angeles. And we are amazing. And you can only go to heaven

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being baptized in our water because our water is holy. Nobody else's water is holy. Our water is

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holy. Dr. Walter Martin said there's only one way to get holy water. And that is to boil the hell

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out of the water. Isn't that hilarious? There's no holy water, folks. Anything that is added to

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the merit, the work of Jesus is an offense. You can't get pure enough water. You can't bleed

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enough. You can't be legal enough. You will die in your sins because you are saying Jesus is

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really great. But I have to do this. I hope God's convicting you right now

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that you must come to Jesus Christ completely abandoning all of your self-effort and works in

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morality out the window. I don't care how moral you are. You can be the most moral individual,

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the most religious person in your community and be completely on your way to hell lost because

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you're still quite impressed with yourself and your spirituality. And God says it stinks.

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You won't accept it. Jesus said, I didn't come. I didn't come to heal the

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healthy. I came to heal the sick. He said that to the Pharisees so they would get it. They didn't

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get it. They considered themselves healthy. They considered sinners sick. Jesus said, I've

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not come for you guys. If you think you're righteous and healthy and fine, I can't do anything for

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you. I came for them. That made those guys sick to think that Jesus would forgive a prostitute

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or a murderer or a gang member. Think of that. Isn't it amazing? So when you sense the conviction

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of the Holy Spirit, he's going to speak to you about what you did. Here's where the rubber meets

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the road. You better run from what you did to his arms. Don't run from what you did down the street

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into the darkness. Run from what you did into the arms of Jesus. Please stop running from God when

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you do wrong. Run to him. Tell him what you did and you'll be forgiven. Hey, I want to wrap it up

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this way. It's highly possible that in your family, if you happen to have two kids, at least two

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kids, all you need two kids to prove the point, but the more the more graphic I guess you have two

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kids. They both came from the same place. You feed them the same food, same clothes, same parents,

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same everything. How are they so different? How can these two kids that came from the same universe

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in your world be so different? One of them, you can look at them like this and they just break

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down. They did something wrong and you just give them a frown. You raise the eyebrow or you

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just go like this. Have you ever seen those videos where people say to the dog after the dog

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tears up the couch? All right, which one of you guys did this? Most of the dogs point to the other

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dog, but the dog that's guilty goes like this. It looks away. Isn't that amazing? There are

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children. There are us who grow up that they can be called out and they melt with responsibility,

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with conviction. Then there are those who eat and call them out. They got frosting all over their

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face. They got sparkles on their fingers. They got whipped cream in their forehead and you say,

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which one of you guys stuck your face in the birthday cake? And the one kid will like look around

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like who did it? And it's all over them and they're like, whoa, man, who's in trouble? That's

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really something. You ever think about that? They seemingly have no conviction at all. That's

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scary. Listen, when you're a kid, you can train them. When you're older, if you're saying, man,

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boy, everybody's in trouble except me. Listen, you've got sprinkles all over your hands and you've got

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frosting on your face and whipped cream on your forehead like everybody else pride just keeps

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you from seeing it. You need to get washed up and cleaned up and blood is the only thing that can do

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it. But it has to be the blood of Jesus. And that blood of Jesus, the book of Hebrews tells us is in

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heaven above. The Bible says that Jesus entered the Holy of Holies not made with human hands in heaven

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and presented himself as the high priest. That means he walked in with blood.

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Aren't you glad that your salvation is at a mercy seat? Is that a altar that's in heaven and not

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on earth? Nobody can steal it from us. It's safe. But friend, listen, are you safe there? Is your salvation

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secured in heaven? I hope so. All it takes is for you to say, Lord Jesus Christ, I agree that I

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have had these thoughts, these actions. I've done this in my life and I've crucified you. I'm

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responsible for crucifying Jesus. Please forgive me of my sin. Wash me clean. Write my name in your

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book of life. Put your Holy Spirit in me and cause me to walk with you for the rest of my life.

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And I thank you in Jesus name. I hope you prayed that prayer. And if you did, let us know. We're not

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going to bother you and we're not going to send you junk. We're just going to say, hey, we're here for

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you. And you can contact us by, however, I forget how you contact us. Maybe it's going to be on

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the screen. But please, make sure that you know him instead of knowing about him. Until next time,

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follow Jesus.

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