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In this video, I'm going to show you the seven ways to measure business value and how you're probably being deceived by most people

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You see on the internet simply because you're not understanding the words in terms they are using all right

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So by the end of this video you'll understand who's BS who's legit who's real who's fake and if they haven't given you

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Enough information to make the decision exactly what questions to ask

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Welcome to the game where we talk about how to get more customers how to make more

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Procure and how to keep them longer and the many failures and lessons we have learned alone the way

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I'm going to show you the seven ways to measure business value and how you're probably being deceived by most people

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You see on the internet simply because you're not understanding the words in terms they are using all right

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So by the end of this video you'll understand who's BS who's legit who's real who's fake and if they haven't given you

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Enough information to make the decision exactly what question is to ask all right, so let's dive in

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So the first of the seven types of ways that people measure value is that they will extrapolate a single month of contract value into

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Eternity or at least over a year and so for example what that looks like is someone you know selling a yearly

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Contract at an event they sell a hundred people at that event. Let's say for $30,000 a year right and

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They say we're doing three million dollars a month. Wow, right crazy

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But the reality is they sold three million dollars of contracts that are unenforceable to people on monthly

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Income streams are monthly cash flow and so a hundred people at

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$2,500 a month is what will get you to that $30,000 right roughly and so

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If you were if what that really means is they did $250,000 that that event but they said I'm doing three million dollars a month

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Right, even though it was a one-time event that is not going to recur and they based it on

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Contra value contract value and not payments collected and so the first way to see through this stuff is to say well

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How much money was actually collected and how reliable are the contracts that you're actually selling if you have highly

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You know secured contracts with companies that are legit or you have them secured against assets meaning that the likelihood that they continue is high

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Or you have a net negative turn company meaning the contract increases in value over time based on the business

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Economics that you have like sales force for example when you sign a contract with sales force

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You sound a contract with HubSpot, which is another CRM most of those clients increase how much they spend over time

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And so that would be legit in that instance

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But the vast majority of people who are saying this to you are not being legit and so first thing to look out for at the very end

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I'll give you my rating for each of these ways of doing it all right the second is lifetime revenue

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So this is when someone says you know

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We've done X amount of total revenue collected in our business now a lot of times we'll say I have a I mean

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I see an ad right now that I run all the time

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It's like how I built a $50 million business

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But they mean how much revenue they've collected over the lifetime of the business and so for context of how ridiculously inflated this will be

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And McDonald's employee will collect a million dollars in revenue as income as honestly

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That's even better because it's income. It's not even revenue

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Just to show you how ridiculous and preposterous this is

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I'm McDonald's employee will collect that over the entire life

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So and if you work to McDonald's your whole life right and so if you if you use this metric

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Then it's incredibly inflating and it's great for it

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You go and it sounds good to impress people who don't know what you're talking about

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Okay, and so you may have seen one of my videos that said 122 million

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In revenue for for me and I do that a because the headline is more compelling than saying you know

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We've done mid 30s for the last three or four years

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But and I you know I'll play the game too

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But understanding what that comes from and so that's why I try and be as honest as possible as like

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Well, this is what we did in revenue. This is what we did in profit

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So that I can just be transparent with everybody so you know at least what to look for and so when someone says

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We have a 50 million dollar business or a hundred million dollar business ask them

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Are you talking about yearly revenue? Are you talking about profit? Like what are you talking about specifically when you say that number

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Right and a lot of times you're like whoa, I I meant I guess that's how much you know total revenue we've done

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You know since we started now mind you most entrepreneurs, especially new entrepreneurs will conflate or or they will mix

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Revenue with cash collected right those are two very different things right revenues is is contract value right

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But cash collected is really reality and so they'll use this term and for the purposes of this video when I say revenue

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I mean cash collected what was processed and received by the business

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So the second way that people describe their values how much total revenue they don't have a lifetime

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So you may actually have seen you can see this award kind of over here

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I got for doing a hundred million or passing a hundred million dollars until revenue

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In three years three and a half years, I think

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Since we started with clickfunnels, which is software that we use for landing pages

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And they recognize the people were top performers all right

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But again, that's revenue like it doesn't mean ever means cash collected

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But it doesn't mean that like we're doing that per year now this year is a breakout year

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And I'll tell you what we do at the end of this year because we will be close to that number

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I don't think we'll cross a hundred million this year, but

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Number three is business valuation

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So this one is one where it's based on the market's value of the business if it were sold

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So this is another way of kind of inflating the the business that you have now

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This isn't necessarily an unfair way of valuing your business right based on its own value

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But the thing is is it all depends on who's the one who's a scribe in the value

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What are they what are they using to create that value?

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I hear all the time low

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I think I'm I'd be able to get 15 times top line you don't know

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The market will pay with the market will pay all right

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And so for most businesses that are small businesses

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So anything that's under five million dollars a year in revenue

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Most of those guys are getting two to three times EBITDA which is another measurement and we get to in a second

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Which is the earnings before interest to tax and monetization and depreciation right and so those are

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Those are business metrics

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That is going to have a multiple scribe to it

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So if you're a mid market which would be like 10 to a hundred million dollars in revenue per year

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Then you might have a six to eight times multiple if you get above a hundred million dollars

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Then a lot of times you can get into the you know 12s 15s etc

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And that is in a fast growth company that has high amounts of capital that need to be reinvested in it

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That they believe are going to give it a strategic advantage for high gross profits in the future

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Um that they're reinvesting capital into all right

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I saw somebody recently saying that they had you know

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They sold their business for a hundred times EBITDA right what that really means is that like and this is where this is what I want

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Everybody to watch this video to be thinking

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They were making almost no profit in their business

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And just got a high valuation because of or not even necessarily a high valuation if they if they're doing a

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You know $10,000 a year in profit on a five million dollar business then if they sell for you know five million dollars

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They get 500 times

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Even though which is ridiculous right

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But people do that because it sounds impressive right so that's why we're that's why we're going through this

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So you can cut through the BS and hopefully get better sources of information

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Which is kind of my goal here is that you can measure you can measure other entrepreneurs value

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Based on the true value that they've been providing all right

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So the next one here is yearly revenue all right

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So this is how much revenue a business is doing yearly now

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We're getting a little bit closer to reality here now again revenue versus cash collected

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It depends on the type of business if you have a service business that's based on recurring revenue and contracts

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Then you're going to have contracts that are factoring to that if you had an e-commerce business

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For example, which is purely transactional then the revenue and cash collection to be very close to each other right

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And you know revenue would also not take into account refunds charge vaccines like that

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Which then gets into net revenue. I won't get into it. There's a zillion terms and just as a side note here

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The reason there are so many terms is because measuring value is something that is one of the hardest aspects of investing in business in general

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Is that people want to figure out what is this thing worth and so that's why they have lots of different metrics

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That they look at and so for you as a as a as a as a keen, you know entrepreneur or investor or you know

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Person who wants to grow within the business world

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Understanding all of these metrics and how they work together to to assess or get as close to true value as possible

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Is are these are going to be tools in your in your skill set and some of these are better and some of these are worse

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And I'll get to my ratings in a second all right

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So yearly revenues the next one, which is just how much are you doing every year in terms of top line right

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Now the next one is uh is profit or EBITDA now these two things are not necessarily the same um

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But I'm going to say EBITDA being earnings before interest tax depreciation and mortization right

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For most businesses. This is where coming back to the business valuation if you're mid market

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You're getting six to eight if you're kind of smaller than you're at you know two to three

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And so in the thing and that means sounds soft to you in terms of those numbers

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But the reality is that a lot of people just look at the outliers which catch all the news in the press

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But most businesses every are you know business are sold every day at one x two x three x EBITDA all the time

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Just no one wants to talk about it right

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And so this is even closer to reality

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So if I'm looking at a business owner or somebody's trying to posture with me right at the eggplant measuring contest of

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Of archpreneurship

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They're gonna if they're starting to talk to me about these numbers. I'm like hey bro

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Like what are we doing bottom line? Right? What are we doing bottom line for you? This is what I want to know right

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We'll go guys you guys already know that I don't run any ads on this and I don't sell anything

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And so the only ask that I can ever have are you guys that you help me spread the words we cannot more archpreneurs

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Make more money feed their families make better products and have better

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Experiences for their employees and customers

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And the only way we do that is if you can rate and review and share this podcast

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So the single thing that I have to do is you can just leave review

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Let's take 10 seconds or one type of the thumb

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It means the absolute world to me and more importantly it may change the world someone else

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And so that leaves me naturally to the next one which is okay

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Well, you've got you've got certain amount of EBITDA that's coming up

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But depending on your type of business you might have to reallocate all that money back into the business to just maintain your competitive advantage

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Charlie Munger at Warren Buffett

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They talk about how their least favorite type of businesses are businesses that require lots of additional capital right now as they've become

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gazillionaires

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They have to find businesses like that because they have to put their capital work

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But for the thing that created their wealth was finding businesses that did not require a lot of additional capital that created lots of

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Net free cash flow. So how much owner earnings how much can you extract

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From the business all right, that's what this NFC F here here is net free cash flow right now

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I've talked about this in other videos

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But this is after I've reinvested profits in the business to maintain and grow our competitive advantage

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How much can i's the owner take out the reason this is so important is because a lot of times you're not going to sell a lot of times

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Businesses fail there are tons of risks. That's why business is one of the riskiest things to get into most businesses

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Do not succeed that's just those are just the stats right

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And 99 times out of 100 you business never actually sells you might do an asset sale or a garage sale

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But doesn't actually sell for what you think it is which is why for me as an entrepreneur

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You want to de-risk by extracting cash flow and many times this is one of the values of the business

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And so from talking to an entrepreneur and they tell me this then I'm going to probably ask well

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What do you babe? What are you taking home an owner earnings? What are you extracting from the business?

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What are you taking out as dividends because I want to know what's reality right

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And that leads me to the last and the bottom one here and then I'll give you my ratings on these

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Which is what's your net worth right? This is what entrepreneurs

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You know everyone's shying away from talking about a lot of guys that you see on your new speed those guys message me and say hey, man

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You know, I want to do x1 z. I want to start investing etc

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And they've got half a million dollars to their name and they talk about how they've done 10 million dollars in revenue right

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Right lifetime and so again, you could just I'll give you a funny example for it. So if someone

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Says hey, we've done a million dollars in revenue look at our award right

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That's over a total lifetime right that could be over 10 years

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So if you did a million dollars remember 10 years means you're doing a hundred thousand dollars a year in revenue right

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And if you're doing 50% margins on that right that's a

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$50,000 a year owner income business

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Which is just the median income in the United States and there's nothing wrong with that

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But in terms of taking this person as an authority

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I would be I would be hesitant to take their advice

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Because gandily they're they're probably just spending what they're making on living

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Because if that's how they're trying to position. So just just take that with a grain of salt

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You know what I mean? And the reason I'm going through this is because I would the best thing you can do is learn from others

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But to make sure that you're actually learning from others learning from people who are good information sources is important

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And can there's tons of people in a way more about business

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But I just try to share the stuff that is work well for us

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In creating you know for me an ultra high net worth which is over 30 million and there's two aspects

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Of net worth all right you have your net worth that comes from your investable assets

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Which is what you've extracted right leave extracted page your taxes on and then been able to reinvest and grow

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And the second is the percentage of the businesses that you own business or businesses that you own

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All right, which is why having a fair and reasonable valuation is important because what's the true market value of the business that you have now

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If someone says like my business does like

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$10 million a year and they do two million dollars of EBITDA right

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$2 million a year and they're getting a

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Five times multiple on that because it's truly a business and doesn't require their face

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If it requires their face then they're not going to get that multiple right

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So it's important to understand these variables that create and measure value in a business

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Because if you're looking for people and you're trying to listen to advice

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Then make sure you're getting it from the sources that are true and real all right

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And so again two different ways that

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That that combined to create net worth is going to be your after tax

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Well that you've extracted from the business and be able to reinvest on the side and grow in your own right and

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The percentages of the businesses that you own and the value around them all right

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So let's get to the good part which is um

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Yeah, your name is this something that I'd be looking at in terms of

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Whether I'm going to value this person's opinion based on this stat alone

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Survey says contract value. No, I would not do that

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This can be wildly inflated

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It can be wildly inflated all right

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So number two lifetime revenue survey says

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No, I would not use this as a way of measuring how good someone is at

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At business because you want to know how long was that was that over 20 years?

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Was it over 40 years because that's what a McDonald's employee can earn over that amount of time

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All right, so don't be impressed by this number ask more questions which we which you should hopefully do as we go down this

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All right business valuation survey says yes

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But caveat on this you want to know what type of multiple are you assuming

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And what is that off of top line or bottom line and why can you defend that right?

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So this is asking good questions so that you can actually get closer to true value

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Which is why all these metrics even exist to begin with so that people want to ascribe and measure value all right

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Ah partial answer because it goes with number five, which is yearly profit

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All right the difference here if someone's doing a hundred million dollars a year in top line revenue

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Right if you're doing 500,000 as year in profit

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I knew a company that um that was doing 20 million a year in profit doing 500,000

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Sorry 20 million revenue 500,000 as year in profit and they got sold for 168 million right now

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That's a super valuable business and it's because the bankers and the people who bought it saw that they had

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Reinvested everything right

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Intergrowing the business right and so understanding the relationship between these two things

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Then it's going to be a far less valuable business

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All right, so understanding that they might be making some strategic decisions about how they're reinvesting the business etc

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Or some capital costs that might have cost them but they see where what it's going to yield them in the future etc

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This is especially true with software businesses FYI all right, which that particular business was a software business

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Yes on net free cash flow. This is uncle Warren. This is uncle Charlie

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Munger. This is their primary metric for measuring business. They try and figure out what is the net free cash flow after I

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Invest everything this is an excellent way

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excellent way

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To figure out the value of the business all right because if you can do your net free cash flow and then you multiply it

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Then you're going to get very close to what an investor might be willing to pay for the asset

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Excluding some sort of crazy monopoly thing that they're trying to get with some sort of category king

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You know situation in a marketplace all right

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And then finally net worth how do we see this on the on the valuing of an entrepreneur's

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eggplant right

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survey says yes

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I think this is an excellent measure

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Of value because this is what is left after all the chips all the chips of phone all the cookies have crumbled all the

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roosters have roosted

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This is what's left after everything right because if you you know if you like I've had 13 businesses and I now own eat more

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So I had 21 businesses right

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So I've had a lot of these things and the thing that remains is you your net worth is an entrepreneur

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And if you look at the ink 500 I saw the the fortune 500 and you look at it 50 years ago

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What you'll see is that there's only two businesses that are still on the the fortune 500 from now from 50 years ago

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G and Ford that's it

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That's it right and so when you think about that a lot of times what what

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Business becomes is you create something and then as an entrepreneur you want to be able to create enough personal wealth throughout the trajectory of the business

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That's like literally all businesses fortune 500 and only two of them right are still there and so

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Thinking about that that should hopefully shift your perspective, which is why I'm so big on

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Extracting dividends while the business is growing and I know that that might not be as popular in the Silicon Valley world

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All of those guys don't live in reality and for the every day business owners every day entrepreneurs that are you know

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Hustling out there trying to make a buck trying to feed their families

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It's important to de-risk because you can't put all your eggs in the single basket that is my opinion

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Short you can bet on yourself, but there are so many more stories of guys who bet everything on themselves

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That the casino and walked away empty handed

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All right, and so it is my belief that if you were generating a profit you should be purposely taking some out every month

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Even though the like for me the vast majority of my net worth is in my business valuations still

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I still have you know over whatever a lot um in in in investable assets

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That categorizes me as ultra high net worth all right, and so again all trying to worth just you know from the definition standpoint

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Is investable assets. It's not based on total value. All right

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And so these are the seven ways that I wanted to highlight for measuring value

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If you see someone and they say I am worth this or my business is worth this

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I built an ex million dollar business ask these questions

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Is that lifetime revenue is that contract value that's been extrapolated is that your business valuation based on what multiple

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Is that based on a top line multiple or is that based on a bottom line multiple what's the net free cash flow

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What are you taking out as dividends every year and then finally if someone will share it with you

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Which I I'm actually not that opposed um to sharing net worth numbers

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I know some people are I don't really know why I figure if you make enough money over time people will always end up finding out

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What your net worth is which is basically the entire Forbes list

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Um, and so anyways these are the ways that you measure value these are my two second snap judgments on them

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And if you have if you have your astute cap on and you probably figured out that a lot of these things go together

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Right, it's not just one number

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It's understanding the interplay between them so that you can ascertain with the true value of a business and or the entrepreneur that owns it is

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