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Real life presents the Jack Hibbs podcast with intention and boldness to proclaim

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truth, equip the saints and impact our culture. Hey how many times have you

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heard a verse quoted or said or maybe somebody just blurt one out there like

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it's a bandaid onto something and it actually is not even the right verse

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regarding the issue or it's something being used from the Word of God that

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doesn't really apply. You need to know how to use the word because the words

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is very specific. So grab your bibles, we're going to get into a quick time

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short time but I think it's going to be pretty cool as we look at how to use

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the word of God and apply it appropriately.

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You can get the outlines of this podcast by going to jackhibbs.com slash podcast.

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Today if this podcast lifts you up and encourages you to live a more fulfilled

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life in Christ, then make sure you leave us one of those five star ratings.

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To us, that's like saying amen or yes, then that rating will encourage others to

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listen. Now open your hearts to what God's word has to say to you. Here is Jack

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Hibbs.

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We're everybody welcome to this edition of the Jack Hibbs podcast show. We're

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glad that you're with us. We are encouraging you as always. The best thing that

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you can do for us is to encourage us by letting other people know. Give us a

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rating. Give us a thumbs up. Pass it along. Let others know that this was a

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blessing to you. And we do want to hear from you. We're not asking for your

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money. We're asking you to say, Hey, I'd like to hear more about this or I'd

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like to hear more about the other or, you know, what about this topic? What

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happens to somebody when they, you know, they're a Christian and they get bit

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by a shark and die and their body goes out into the water and the rapture

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happens and how does God ring all that out? Whatever we believe, I believe that

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the answers to everything in life are actually found in scripture. I've often

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said before that life, I believe, is rigged to the scriptures because of God's

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eternal word is always the answer. Father, we pray that you bless our fun time

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together right now. Lord, we pray that you would just give us your, your

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insight in your understanding by the power of your Holy Spirit. And thank you,

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Father God, that your word is anything but stale. It's anything but dry. Lord

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help us to never make the word of God stale or dry. That would be us, as

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Tozer said, that would be the word of God dying in the hands of its friends.

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Lord, may we not be guilty of having the word of God die in our hands, even

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though we are friends to the word, may we not do it any injustice. Bless our

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time together. We pray in Jesus name. Amen. So you guys, we're just at a time

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right now where it's pretty cool where by the time you see this podcast, the

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staff, the campus, the church where I'm pasturing everything that's around us

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is getting into the the Holy day. I want to say Holy day mode because

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Holy, this is another topic for some other time, but I don't want you to miss

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this. There's a lot of holidays. Okay. And then there's a Holy day in

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America in the United States. We have one Holy day in America that's truly

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American. And that is Thanksgiving day is a truly holy day on the American

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calendar. It's the one and only it's it's solely reserved for us as Americans to

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give thanks for the founding of our nation. And we recognize the fact that the

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Pilgrim fathers celebrated that they survived their first year, their first

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winter. And they did that with the Indians, the natives. And it was about a

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seven day long Thanksgiving day Thanksgiving week period. And it's a holy day.

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America's only holy day, technically. So listen, here's where we're going to

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have some fun today. And I want to address some scriptures that are often

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misunderstood. And we're going to start with this one. This is a biggie.

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Matthew chapter 18. So number one, the book of Matthew is written by Matthew

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Levi, Matthew levy is how the Hebrews would say it. And much of the gospel

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of Matthew, Matthew being the first in a biblical order, Matthew's gospel is

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not the first in chronological order. The first gospel written is actually

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want to see if you can catch this. It's actually known as Peter's gospel

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technically. So I never heard of Peter's gospel before. I know. Listen, the

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first gospel in chronological order is Mark's gospel. Mark's gospel. And that

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is Mark in the scripture, the young man Mark John Mark Mark was a very, very

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young man. He's the one that at their rest of Jesus in the Garden of

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Gethsemane. It tells us that Mark or a disciple fled. They grabbed him and he

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fled naked from the Garden of Gethsemane. Who was that young man that took off

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running? It was Mark. And Mark, it is understood in church history, Mark interviewed

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Peter in the writing of Mark's gospel. So the Holy Spirit possess as we know

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from scripture, Mark and Peter, they sat down and Mark interviewed Peter and

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wrote Mark's gospel and it's the shortest gospel with the most record of miracles.

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Shortest gospel, Mark, but it records the most miracles, fascinating.

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That's Mark's gospel. We're going to talk though about a different gospel that

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came along later than that and later than Mark and that is Matthew's gospel.

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This is important. A very, very popular scripture passage quoted but

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greatly misunderstood. It's Matthew chapter 18. If you have your Bible, you

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ought to grab it and we'll look at it together. It says Matthew 18, let's start in

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about verse 15. Moreover, if your brother sins against you, go and tell him his

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fault between you and him alone. Wouldn't it be great if this was actually obeyed by

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believers instead of talking about it in Facebook first? Christian, if somebody,

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if a brother offends you or you offend a brother, you're, you guys are supposed to take care

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of that by yourself. Not tell Susie about it. It's a terrible sin that we commit in this

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area, all because we fail to obey the word. So more of if your brother sins against you,

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go and tell him his fault between you and him alone. If he hears you, you have gained

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your brother. In other words, you guys have been reconciled. You don't tell other people

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about it. Keep it private. It's between you and him. Why? Because you sinned against him or

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he sinned against you. You guys have settled it and you move on. You leave it. Do you leave

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it at the cross? But, verse 16, if he will not hear you, take with you one or two more

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that's brothers or sisters, that quote now Old Testament verse by the mouth of two or three witnesses,

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every word may be established. Okay? So you keep, you minimize, you minimize the exposure of the

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sin. Why? The more people know about the sin, the harder it is to make reconciliation.

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We've got to get a holder ourselves people. We need to get a grip on our mouth. When somebody

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upsets us, we need to shut our mouth and go to that person and obey the word of God and tell them,

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you know what? You broke my heart when you said that man, did I understand you right?

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Were you slandering me? Because I need to know the truth on this. You don't talk about that to

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anybody else. In fact, your sin, if you do, is worse than the sin that the brother committed

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against you. You now become what God hates is a tale bearer that says, I hate gossips. So this

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is very, very important. But look, we're building up to an often misunderstood portion of scripture.

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And if he refuses you, but if he refuses to hear them, that's you and the two,

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tell it to the church. That doesn't mean you stand up on Sunday morning and say, hey,

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did you know that Wilbur over here is a dork? This guy's an idiot. Let me tell you what he did.

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That's not what it means. It implies church leadership. It implies after you've gone to,

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with two him, with two or three witnesses. Now, at least three of you have talked to him.

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If he won't not, if he won't hear you, go to trusted church leadership. That's what you do.

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Tell it to the church. But if he refuses even to hear, for the church to hear, let him be to you

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like one who is a heathen and a tax collector. In other words, cut off fellowship from this believer

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who's continuing to live in sin in this matter. Assuredly, I say to you, whatever you bind on

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earth will be bound in heaven and whatever you lose on earth will be lost in heaven.

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Oh my goodness. Have you ever heard somebody say, we bind this in Jesus name.

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We, we claim it. We bind it. We lose it. I lose that word.

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Wrong air stop. You are misusing the word of God. That's not what it's for. It's not what it means.

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He's going to tell us what it means. Again, I say to you that if two of you agree on earth

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concerning anything that they ask, it will be done for them by my father in heaven.

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For where two or three are gathered together in my name, I am there in the midst of them.

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Then Peter came and said to him, Lord, how often shall I, how often shall my brother

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sin against me? And I forgive him up to seven times. And Jesus said, do not say, I do not say

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to you up to seven times, but 70 times seven. When someone says, losing or binding, it's in the

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context of dealing with church discipline. When someone says to you that two of you come together

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in a grain on any matter, Jesus said, there I am in the midst of you, it's regarding church

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discipline. It's regarding dealing with an error in the fellowship of believers. And Peter,

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God bless. Thank you, Peter. Peter even helps us out by saying, wait a minute. Are you saying,

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Jesus, that if somebody sins against me seven times, I'm to forgive him? Jesus said, no,

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70 times seven. What does that mean? 490. What does that mean? If you're Jewish, you know exactly

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what that means. 490, it's not the number. It means God was faithful to pardon Israel's sin

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for 490 years. How about this? 490 sins or infractions. Jesus is saying, it's not the number.

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Whenever someone repents, if it's a thousand million, zillion times, you are required to forgive them.

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But what's the prerequisite? Listen up, everybody. Do you just go around issuing forgiveness to

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everybody? The answer is no. No, you don't. Pastor, I can't believe you said that. No, we're not

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supposed to do that. We're supposed to issue forgiveness based upon them repenting. If a brother

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or a sister sins against you and others and refuses to repent of their sin and make amends,

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if it's a sin against you personally, or now you had to bring in one or two more witnesses.

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Now it's three. He still won't listen. She still won't listen. Now you tell it to the church

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leadership. They won't listen. They still won't listen. Then treat them as an unbeliever.

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Cut them out of the fellowship. Why? Because they need to learn a lesson at church discipline.

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So when Jesus comes along and says, I'm telling you right now that if you guys do that, I will be

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right in the midst of you. I will be your authority, your eyewitness to this church discipline,

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and I will execute that. You don't have to do it. You just bring it to my attention.

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And as it escalates and the church leadership is even brought in, I'm telling you this. I'm

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there. And I am going to deal with my church. I will take care of this. People will often say,

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oh, praise the Lord. We know we're together and Lord we're praying. And your Bible says that

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wherever two or more are gathered together, I know that you've heard that. Use that way.

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But technically, theologically, it's a discipline verse. It's a verse that is to be used in church

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discipline. That whenever two or three are gathered together on this matter, God promises to be

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there to execute His judgment, His discipline on this wayward brother. I know I can just hear

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minds blowing up right now. I know that we've often passionately used that, but we've used it

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the wrong way. I'm picking on these things. Here's another one. And I have it marked here somewhere

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that I can find it quickly. And I'm not mean to quick about it. Here it comes.

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It's Psalm 37. Psalm 37. Listen to this. I'll just, I'll just start to the top. Start at the top

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of the verse. Do not fret because of evil doers nor be envious of the workers of iniquity.

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For they shall soon be cut down like the grass and wither as a green herb. Trust in the Lord and do

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good, dwell in the land and feed on His faithfulness. Delight, here it is. Delight yourself also

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in the Lord and He shall give you the desires of your heart. Verse 5. Commit your way to the Lord.

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Trust also in Him and He shall bring it to pass. I want to point out two things before we dive

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into this. Verse 3. Proverbs 37. Verse 3 says, trust in the Lord. And Proverbs 37. Verse 5 says,

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commit your way to the Lord. Okay? Trust also in Him. Trust. Trust the Lord. Here's the deal.

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We often hear, they'll like yourself in the Lord and you'll give you the desires of your heart,

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like it's a Santa Claus verse in the Bible. Like, but God, you didn't give me what I wanted.

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I prayed that verse. I delighted myself in the Lord and He gave me the desires of my heart. Lord,

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that was my prayer and you didn't do it. You failed me. Note the truth is that we actually failed

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ourselves. We actually failed ourselves. Why? What did we do? We approached the Word of God with

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a prerequisite. We came to Him to see what we can get out of Him and we used that verse

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to almost hold Him hostage to His Word. Our motive was wrong. Our approach was wrong. The intent

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was wrong. Rather, the verse means this. Trust God. He's going to deal with the evil doers.

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Trust Him. He'll mow them down like grass in His good time. That's up to Him. What we're supposed

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to do instead is to trust God. And in trusting God, we are to do this. We are to delight ourselves

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in the Lord. In the Lord is the qualifier. To delight in what? To delight in money, you can

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delight in money. Go ahead. It's fine. Go ahead and delight in money. Just prepare yourself

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for a big letdown because it's going to eventually run out or it's going to fail you. You can

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delight yourself in being healthy. We should all be healthy. We should eat better because our bodies

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are the temple of the Holy Spirit. We should take care of these temples because God wants to use

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us. In other words, every one of us have an expiration date. We're all going to die on a certain day.

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I think this is the key that we should be as healthy as we possibly can until we drop dead.

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So God can use us. If we're sitting around eating cupcakes for breakfast and potato chips for lunch

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and twinkies for dinner, you're going to have a miserable sick life and you're going to die on

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on that date that's already been set. But you're going to be so messed up that God will scarcely be

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able to use you because you've abused the temple. So you want to be wise about that.

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That's still trusting God and to delight yourself from the Lord is to do this.

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Lord, it's you that I delight in. It's not my health. It's not my wealth. It's not my time.

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It's not my location. It's not anything else. It's not my name or heritage or blue blood

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access to royalty. That's not it. None of those things are it. The prerequisite is

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in the Lord, I'm going to delight myself. I like to reverse the verse. Delight yourself in the Lord.

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How about this? In the Lord, delight. He's your answer. He's your purpose. He's your meaning. He's

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the reason. And of course, that would require you and I to know him. So delight yourself in the

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Lord. And he shall give you the desires of your heart. And he goes on to say, commit your waste

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him and trust in him. Here's here's the key. When I find out who God is through the pages of

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his word, then the more this word gets inside of me, the more I'm delighting myself in him,

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that when I now pray or talk with God, this word is going to bring up bad images, but I can't

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think of a better word. If his Bible is in me, when I regurgitate his word, it comes out. Listen,

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I don't mean to gross you out, but if somebody throws up, if your little kid throws up, you

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could tell they just had a pepperoni pizza. Why? That's what came out. Gosh, mom and dad would say,

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I guess, listen, I guess pepperoni pizza and cheese doesn't suit him. We won't be doing that again.

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Why? What came in came out. Same is true for the believer. What comes out of the heart, the mouth

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speaks. So when someone speaks in a certain way, certain tone, certain spirit as it were,

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it reveals what's in their heart. And so when the word is filled up the heart of the person,

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then you will supernaturally, naturally be delighting yourself in the Lord.

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The Lord has become your delight so that when you pray, when you ask him,

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guess what? You are regurgitating in the request that which was already put in place.

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In other words, Lord, I want to do what you want to do. I want to do whatever you want.

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Thy will be done is the greatest commentary on this Psalm 37 verse. Lord, thy will be done.

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It's so liberating and so so free. So keep that in mind. Think about that. How about this one?

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Is Romans some of you're going to cringe? No, no, don't say it. Yep. I'm going to say it.

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Romans, chapter 28, Romans, chapter 8, verse 28. Don't say it. This is my favorite verse.

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It's my favorite verse too, as well as some others. But listen, we have to understand it.

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How many times have you heard this? Oh, you know what, my friend? Don't worry about it.

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All things work together for good. Have you ever heard that? All things work together for good.

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That's when we use the Bible wrongly, where we could actually hurt somebody.

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We can mislead somebody with the word of God. The truth is, if that's how you use it,

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all things work together for good, brother, just cheer up. It's going to turn out okay.

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You just misled that brother and you used the word of God. I know you didn't mean to,

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but you need to be careful. When the scripture says that, and we know that all things work

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together for good, the qualifier is to those who love God. Number two, to those who are called

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according to his purposes. So when we quote that verse, we need to say, you know, my friend,

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all things work together for good to those who love God, to those who are called

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according to his purposes. Reverse it. Those who are called according to God's purposes

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are the ones who are called. Those are the ones who love the Lord. And those who love the Lord,

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you can be rest assured confidently that everything that's going on in your life, good,

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bad or ugly, it's going to work together for good. You don't throw the verse out there like

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it's some bandaid, some triage moment to slap it on a crisis. Oh, just say this, pray this.

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You remember this. There's some qualifiers here. And we know that all things work together for

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good to those who love God, to those who are called and according to his purposes.

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In fact, he even strengthens that in verse 29, for whom he for new. I love that.

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He for new. What does that mean? It means God knows everything before it ever happens.

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He can't learn anything. In fact, those he for new, these he also predestined.

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And of course, he goes into that beautiful doxology about us being

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really glorified in Christ and brought forth in Christ. The beauty is this that

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all things work together for good to those who are loving God, called by God,

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and are living their lives for the purposes of God. So friends, listen, if you're going to

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quote a verse, quote it in its fullness. And then I think we have we have space and time for

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a couple more. What about this one? It's it's Philippians. Sorry, my fingers are all dry

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up here. Philippians 4 verse 13, listen to this, Philippians 4 13, I can do all things through

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Christ who strengthens me. You heard that verse before. So what does that mean? I'm going to

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hate me for this, but it's okay. I'd rather have the truth prevail. If you're going to

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go miniature golfing with your friends and you really want to win, or if you want to

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get ready to go out there and make your NFL debut on the field, and you say to yourself,

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I can do all things through Christ. You strengthens me. So we're going to win today. We're going to

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we're going to win. Again, that's not what that verse means and it's not what it's for.

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When the scripture tells us that we can do all things through Christ who strengthens me,

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the context of chapter four is all that glorifies God in the situation of the life that you're

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living out. I'm not saying that you shouldn't trust God to protect you and lead you and guide you

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on the field or at the meat or at the track and field event. I'm not saying that you can't call

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out to God for that, but what I am saying is that's not a verse that guarantees that we're going

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to win the lotto. Hello, that's ridiculous. It's really a verse that announces to us,

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Lord, the situation that's in front of me, how about this? Just before doing this podcast,

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I had a pastor come up to me and say, hey, can I ask you something personally privately?

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Something's going on in my life, man. Every time I get alone with God, it's just a lot of static.

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It's a lot of noise and he said, I feel like I'm just losing. I feel like I'm sinking. This seems

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like there's tons of fuzz, static. In my alone time with God has been totally unprofitable.

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It's been a war. Do you know what I'm talking about, Pastor Jack? I said, brother, do I know what

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you're talking about? I said, look, you're a young man. I'm an old man. That ain't going to go away.

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You got to fight through that. How do I do that? He said, I said, well, I'll tell you something

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personally. The only relief I've been able to find when those times hit me is watch this. This is

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actually the fulfillment of I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me is do this,

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I told him. And this is what I did. You want me to do it? I'll do it right now. This is for real.

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This just happened an hour an hour ago. We were outside. I got on my knees. I don't know if you can

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tell or not, but I'm on my knees. I see a get on your knees and you're alone time. And this is what

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I want you to do. Lord, I'm coming before you right now and I've been having a horrendous time

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struggling. You know, I'm not telling you anything that you don't already know, but I'm saying

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that Lord for the benefit of my own ears, I'm on my knees right now with your word open because

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every time I try to get alone with you, there's just this static. And I know that Satan is the author

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of confusion. You're not. And I know that you want to connect with me. This is a difficult time.

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So Lord, I offer this prayer, but I rejoice to the Lord greatly that now at last your care for me

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has flourished again, though you surely did care, but you lacked opportunity. Not that I speak in

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regard to need for I have learned in whatever state I am to be content. Lord, that is Paul's prayer

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to the Philippians. And I'm making it my prayer right now. Jesus, I'm praying the word of God.

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I'm asking you to make my heart content and whatever condition I'm in, including this. And

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Father, I pray that you would open up my heart and my mind to see the generosity that you share

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toward me through your people. Lord, I know that the Philippians were willing to even give of their

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own life to bless the Apostle Paul. Lord, may I return that love upon the flock that you've put

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in my trust may they know that I love them. And Lord, God, I ask you right now to help me

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to flourish in every situation, including this one that I'm struggling in. And Lord, I just pray

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that you'd bring my heart to a place of great contentment, even in this difficult hour.

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That's what I told the guy. And he said, well, how long do you do that? And I said, until you break

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through, there's a sense, there's a moment that you're going to know you're going to break through.

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What's the point? I know that all things, all things, barring from Romans will work together.

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We touched on that a moment ago if I do this. I know this, that if I'm praying, seeking his glory,

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he's going to answer. I know this, that what I'm discussing here before you right now in Philippians,

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that I can do all things through Christ, who strengthens me. This is how he strengthens me.

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When we are weak, we are, say it, strong.

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Scripture tells us, we're not sufficient for these things. That's right, we're not, but he is.

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This is so important. So when we talk about, I can do all things through Christ, who strengthens me,

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what's so important is to realize that I can do all things that he wants to do in my life that

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glorify him, but I don't often know what to do. How to do it? Answer, pray the Bible,

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pray Scripture. Try that, do that. Watch what happens. And it's funny because he did ask me,

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you know, how long, how long should you do that? How long? And the answer is true. What I said

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earlier, until you get breakthrough, you say, well, do you really have to get on your knees?

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Yeah, I'm going to tell you why. Yeah, it has nothing to do with policy or procedure,

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it has nothing to do with tradition or religion. You want to know why it's very important when

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you're going through a tough time spiritually, a dry season, and it seems like the heavens are

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brass and you're not getting through to get on your knees because it hurts. What does that matter

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because guess what happens? And as soon as I said this to him, he went, oh man, yeah, that's right.

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When you are on your knees, you start to feel

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pain up the back of your legs, hamstring up toward your bum, B-U-M. Then the next thing you

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start feeling is that your knee caps start hurting. See, Jack, why are you telling me this? Because

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listen, those things that distracted you before, they're gone, they disappear. And the longer you're

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in that position, the more pain, physical pain, there is. And the more focused you are on the Lord

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in that topic or that issue and his face and his ears, it's amazing. It's amazing.

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But we just can't go around getting on our knees everywhere. No, no, no, of course not. But

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that's how maybe you should try starting your day. Watch what happens. Watch what happens.

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So listen, I just wanted to hit on these often misunderstood verses. These are just a few, obviously.

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But think about these things. Read the chapter in which the verse appears. It will give you better

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understanding because context is everything when reading a text. You'll get its biblical meaning

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when you read it through rather than pulling it out of its place. So I hope that helps.

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And so got this, we'd love to hear from you guys. If you have any comments, if you have anything

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in this area where you'd like to hear more about this kind of stuff, I know this is super practical.

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At least it is for me and it's very down to earth. But if it could help you in your walk and

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focusing and also understand scripture a little bit better, then we're all together stronger for it.

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So God bless you guys. I hope you have an awesome, awesome, holy day season and an awesome new year

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that is upon us very shortly and that you stand firm in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and

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Savior Jesus Christ. As always, always, it's time for us to live out what we believe in. It's time

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for real life and that's what we're all about. God bless.
