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If I say, would you like this thing?

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And the other person says, yes, and they give me money,

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and I give them the thing, no harm was done.

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All right, so you have to get over this belief

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about like selling something or making an offer

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is somehow bad.

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You're literally preventing people from having

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a benefit by not making the offer.

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The wealthiest people in the world

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see business as a game.

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This podcast, the game is my attempt

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at documenting the lessons I've learned

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on my way to building acquisition.com

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into a billion dollar portfolio.

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My hope is that you use the lessons to grow your business

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and maybe someday soon partner with us

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to get $200 million in beyond.

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I hope you share and enjoy.

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I learned $7 million lessons at my first job.

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Imagine five generations of fathers

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teaching their sons the same exact tips

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and tricks of running one very successful business.

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Now, this was a multi million dollar per year operation.

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All right, and I worked in the off site,

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not the retail center in the storage unit,

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which is this massive warehouse of fur coats

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talking like 7,000 fur coats.

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And just for context, fur coats are usually

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between like 1,000 all the way up to $50,000.

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So when you think about walking into like a fur coat store,

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if you see 100 coats or 200 coats,

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it's like having 200 cars sitting in a parking lot

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that's the size of a living room.

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Lots of money exchanging hands.

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The first lesson you ever taught me

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was how to deal with angry customers.

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One day, I was going from the warehouse

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to the retail store.

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So I didn't go in the retail store that much

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because like I looked like an 18 year old

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and I wasn't going to be selling any $25,000 coats.

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And I was in the back because obviously

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customers shouldn't see me.

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And this lady comes in and she is piss angry, all right?

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And she's like, where's Johnny?

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It's because I'm going to change the names

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just because I don't want to mess anyone's stuff up.

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She's like, where's Johnny?

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He sold me this coat and this button came off.

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This is so ridiculous.

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I spent so much money on this coat.

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She's just making a scene, right?

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Now, John, the owner of the store, I'm sitting in the back

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and the customer is this way.

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I'm on the other side of the door so she can't see me

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and he's walking towards me to turn out

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to go deal with her.

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As he's walking towards me, I see him roll his eyes

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and then as he turns a corner,

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he goes right into character.

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And what I learned later is that he got in the angry boat.

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And I'll explain that in a second.

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And so as soon as he walked out, he was like,

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Mrs. Johnson, that is ridiculous.

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I cannot believe that you had a coat that had a button

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that was missing.

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Who sold you that coat?

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Tell me the name of the sales rep.

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I need to find them right now.

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We'll get rid of them.

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Did anyone see you with the coat without the button?

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We're going to get to the bottom of this right now.

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All of a sudden, her whole tone changes.

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She started back pedaling and she's like,

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I mean, it wasn't that big of a deal.

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It was just a button.

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It probably, no, we need to get to the bottom of this

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and he leaned in even further.

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He's like, this is not acceptable.

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You should never have been seen in a coat

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that didn't have a button on it.

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And she, all of a sudden, became a columnist.

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And she's like, you know what?

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I just want it to be fixed.

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If you could fix the coat, he grabbed it from me.

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He's like, we're going to handle this right now.

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You don't even need to, you wait two seconds.

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We're going to fix this right now.

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He goes the back, they fix the thing in five minutes

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and he hands it back to him.

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And she's like, ah, John, you're always the best.

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Thank you so much for dealing with this.

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I'm sorry, I was a little bit over the top.

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I just, you know, I've spent so much in the jacket

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and he's like, as you should be.

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If you walked out the door, a turn of minute

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was like, there could only be one person in the angry boat.

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He said, so whenever someone comes in the angry boat,

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what most people try and do is they try and downplay them.

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And so they say, well, it's not that big of a deal.

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You know, it was just probably on his mistake.

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Well, just try, and what happens is

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the person doesn't feel validated.

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then increases how angry they are

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because they want the person to validate why they're angry.

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And so what happens is they just keep getting angry

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and this person keeps trying to make them less angry.

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between the two people.

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Now, the flip side is she got in the angry boat.

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And so she had to get out of the angry boat.

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And so whenever you're dealing with an upset customer,

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and this is what you needed to like,

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this is something that I recommend teaching customer service

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traps or account reps,

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or if you're just the small business owner,

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you're dealing with people, you need to validate their anger.

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And in a real way, if something was messed up

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and you have very high standards for your business,

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the moment you say it's not a big deal,

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I mean, you're not actually taking responsibility.

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And so even if their complaint is ridiculous,

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and it's something that would be no way under control,

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it still is your responsibility.

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And so you have to take ownership of it

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because the alternative is you don't,

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and you never get better.

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And so you lean even more in that in those scenarios.

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And that was the first lesson he taught me,

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which was the angry boat.

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The second lesson he taught me was about creating a new product.

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So one of the things that had happened

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in the five generations of fur coat fathers

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passing under fur coat suds was that they realized

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that in the summer, they never had any demand

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because people aren't trying to buy fur coats in the summer.

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And they're like, huh, what can we sell to people

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that still on brand for fur coats during the summer?

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And so it came up with a genius idea.

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They said, we'll store and condition the coats for them.

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Mind you, that's where I worked

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in the warehouse where we stored and condition the coats.

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And so what happened is as they sold every single customer coat,

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they said, hey, every year, make sure during the summer

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when you're not using the coat, you bring it back here,

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we can repair any damages, we can sew things up,

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we can condition the fur and we can make it

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last two, three, five times longer.

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So you can pass it on to the next of kin.

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And then he would give this a little analogy.

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He's like, right, if you're gonna buy a $50,000 car,

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you'd pay a hundred bucks a month for insurance

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to ensure the car, of course, right?

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It's the same thing here.

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So he created this analogy that compared for coats,

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which people didn't understand as well to a car,

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which was something they did.

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And so what happened is overnight,

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he created what I would consider an insurance product.

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Now, insurance products don't actually have to be insurance.

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If you do anything, guaranteeing your work

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either through labor or just decreasing the risk

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that it happens, you can charge people for the safety

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that whatever they just bought will continue

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to provide value for a longer period of time.

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And so he was able to do this and here's what's crazy.

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The cost to store a coat I think was like $200, right?

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For the whole summer.

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Now, think about the cost of goods on storing a coat.

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You grab the coat, you hang it on a rack inside of a van,

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you drive it to a warehouse that's air conditioned,

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and then you hang the coat.

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That's the storage, that's the fee.

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His two biggest cost was just ensuring the warehouse

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that had millions and millions of dollars

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of fur coats in it and the AC bill.

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That's it.

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And the upsell was the next lesson I'm gonna tell you.

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Lesson three, was getting people to say yes

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by saying no.

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So when I first learned no base selling,

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I actually learned it from this job when I was 18,

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which as an aside, if you want to get into business,

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it's so much more valuable to learn from somebody who's very good

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than try and learn it all on your own,

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which is why I think most people in their younger need

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just prioritize learning rather than earning.

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Everyone's in such a race to get to become a millionaire

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when you can guarantee that you're a millionaire

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in a decade if you do the right things early.

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Back to the lesson.

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So one of the things that he did to increase

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the average cart value of storing the fur coats

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was get people to say yes to conditioning the coat, right?

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Because storage is the first core thing,

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which is I just hang your coat up and I keep it air condition.

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And the upsell is I'll also brush it and I'll fix it

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and I'll do these other things.

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And so when they would call up customers

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and they'd say, hey, do you wanna, you know,

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turn in your coat for the summer,

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what they did was say, hey, we're gonna store

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in condition the coat.

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You don't want anything else, do you?

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And they would say no, no, no, I don't want anything else.

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And so implied in that, they got them to say yes to storage

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and yes to conditioning the coat, pretty slick.

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Now, to make sure that people actually turned in the coat,

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they added something else,

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which is an incentive to get people to respond.

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Big guys, love that you're listening to the podcast.

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If you ever want to have the video version of this,

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which usually has more facts, more visuals, more graphs,

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you know, drawn out stuff, sometimes it can help hit

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the brain centers in different ways.

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You can check out my YouTube channel, it's absolutely free.

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You can check that out if that's what you are into.

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And if not, keep enjoying the show.

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So lesson four, when they wanted to get people to actually

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take them up on the upsell that they had,

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they gave them a little piece of bait,

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but the lesson was what the bait was.

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And it was what I call sawdust.

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And so sawdust is anything in a business that is excess,

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that is created in excess that you normally throw out.

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So a lot of famous things were actually made out of sawdust.

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So if you've ever seen those Ikea pieces of furniture,

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they just glued together all the sawdust from lumber mills

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because it was literally thrown aside.

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And so it became actually a harder, stronger piece of wood

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by taking the excess capacity.

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To the same degree, if you've ever heard of way protein,

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way protein used to get scraped off the bottom of dairy centers

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because it was waste product.

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And now it's one of the most expensive products sold from dairy.

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And so what he did was he took the scraps

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from all the coats that they would make in the back

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and all the repairs that they had,

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and they would all have all these odd shaped pieces of fur.

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And so what they did was they made tiny little things

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that were made of fur.

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So I think like little purses, little earmuffs,

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wristlets, whatever, tiny little strings of fur,

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but still had the value of expensive clothing

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of luxury products.

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And so they said anybody who would turn in their coat

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would get this as a bonus.

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Pretty cool, right?

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And so what they did was they gave away something

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that cost them nothing that people still perceive value

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as bait to get people to come in

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and actually take the upsell.

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What's even more is that when people did come

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to turn the thing in, they would actually say,

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well, you want to store that too, right?

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And they would say yes.

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And then they would charge them for that.

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Even though they got the product for free,

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the storage didn't come free.

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And so all these little things that were accumulated

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over five generations of fur years.

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And if people were listening to this,

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if you're listening to this and you're a consumer,

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you have to get around the like,

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someone selling me something makes them evil.

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Capitalism is the only system

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where both people say thank you after an exchange.

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It means both parties are better.

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And the big part of capitalism has to be voluntary exchange.

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Now, if there's coercion, right?

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If someone threatens you, that's different.

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That's not, that's just a form of robbery, right?

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But if I say, would you like this thing?

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And the other person says yes, and they give me money,

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and I give them the thing, no harm was done.

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All right, so you have to get over this belief

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about like selling something or making an offer

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is somehow bad.

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You're literally preventing people

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from having a benefit by not making the offer.

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If someone didn't want to store the earmuffs

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or the wrist links, then they didn't have to.

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And for the business, just a cost of doing business

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to get the person in the door.

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And this leads me to my fifth lesson.

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This fur coat dealer was able to withstand

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all of the pita pressures and all of the, you know,

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people being upset about animals,

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even though they, you know, wear leather

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and they eat meat every day, right?

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And they're all up in arms about stuff.

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He was able to weather that for five generations

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because he never stopped doing the boring work.

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What they do has not changed fundamentally in years.

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All they did was get better and better and better at it.

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And one of the things that I found

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through all the portfolio companies that we work with

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at acquisition.com, and if you don't know who I am,

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by the way, by the way,

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where you own acquisition.com to portfolio

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is $200 million a year.

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And I make these because I want you to use the stuff,

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make lots of money, and then eventually,

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we can invest in your business

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once you crack, you know, three, five, 10 million

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plus per year, all right?

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But the difference between the small business owners

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and the big business owners is that the big business owners

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do the same thing for a very long period of time.

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And they do all the things that right now

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you probably know you should be doing

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but aren't in your business, they just do those.

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So there's nothing advanced about it.

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They just do all the basics every time every day.

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And if you're like, man,

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but it's gonna take me time to set up a blog

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and take me time to do email follow-up consistently.

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It's gonna take me time to create content.

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It's gonna take me time to build a sales team.

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Yeah, there's all the things

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that you probably know you should do.

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And they take time, which is why building a business

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that's big takes big time.

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But it also creates even bigger outcomes.

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The sixth lesson I learned was how he was able

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to double the amount of codes people would buy.

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So a few times per year he would run these seasonal

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like unclaimed for sales.

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And so people would come in

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and he had two big caveats that I thought were brilliant.

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The first, we said no dealers.

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And so what that meant is everyone who's a consumer

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thinks, oh, these must be great deals.

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That's why dealers aren't allowed, right?

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So it's almost like a damaging admission

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but he does it in a way to persuade people

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that they're getting an even better deal.

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Now, once they got in, there was a sign on the door

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that said limit to codes per customer.

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And so what happens is when you limit the codes per customer,

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then it means every single person buys more than one

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because they're like, oh, there's a limit.

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I have to use up the scarce resource.

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So he made purchasing a code

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a scarce resource in and of itself.

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On top of that, in the actual store itself,

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they would have multiple strike downs on the price

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and it would say final price, all sales are final.

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And so it created all of this scarcity

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and he purposely let people in on a single file line

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and a fixed amount of people in the store at the same time.

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Part of that is for security to make sure

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that people don't steal codes, obviously.

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But the other side of it was that it created

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this huge perception of demand.

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So you have a line out the door.

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It says limit to per customer, no dealers allowed.

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You walk in the door, they're security everywhere

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and you feel like you gotta go get yours.

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And so what happens is every single person bought

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more codes than they ultimately would have otherwise.

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And so when you have the opportunity,

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and I've learned this in multiple businesses

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and I've applied this, is that whenever you run a promotion

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if you're going to, having a limit

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to the amount that people can buy,

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oftentimes actually makes you more money.

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Because the fear is, what if someone is going to buy 10 codes?

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But the reality is very few people were going to buy 10 codes.

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But what it did do is it got the 80% of people

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that were going to buy one to buy two.

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The seventh lesson I learned was that by creating

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this continuity product where people would come every year

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to get their fur coat insured and fixed

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is that you become top of mind.

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You go from being a store that someone bought something once

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to being the first place someone goes

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when they saw anything related to this specific problem

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in this case, fur coats.

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And so you become the dealer for life.

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And so what happens is instead of them price shopping

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you are going all over town, what they'll do instead

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is they go to you first and every three years

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or every five years because the buying cycle on fur coats

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is the same almost as cars.

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All of a sudden, instead of being that one salesman

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who sells one car one time,

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you become the car salesman for the rest of your life

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because of what you do between the sales.

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So in your business, if you have a one time product,

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especially that's a little bit bigger in purchase,

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having little things that you can do,

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even if you didn't make money on them,

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but you just broke even on them

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and then you know that on average

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you get customers to buy two more products from you,

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it more than makes up for the effort

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and cost of time that you put into it.

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And the beautiful thing about this is that no one's gonna do it.

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And the reason is because everyone's lazy.

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And so you're like, Alex, I can't believe

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you're telling these secrets, no one's gonna do it.

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Because if you did do it, you'd already be a multi-millionaire.

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And so like, if you just do these things,

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like this guy did, you will make significantly more.

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So do it.

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And the cost of deliver on this was so low

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because we had one, 18 year olds,

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two, air conditioning, three storage facility.

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That was it.

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I think the reason nobody's selling is more effective

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or often more effective,

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especially in upsell situations

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is that people wanna just get the default option.

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And so we're so trained to say no to any kind of upsells

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that if you get someone to say no,

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but in so doing, get them to say yes,

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you actually click into their subconscious automated response, right?

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And so people feel safe saying no

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because most times when they say no to salesmen,

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they save money.

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And so what you do is you flip the script and you align it

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so that them saying no actually gets them to say yes

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for you and to the purchase.
