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Real Life presents the Jack Hibbs podcast with intention and boldness to proclaim

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truth, equip the saints and impact our culture.

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Hey everybody, I'm going to want you to get your helmet on, put your mouth piece in,

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we've got a program for you today that's going to blow your mind, it's definitely

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engaging, definitely powerful, because with us today we have the great the one and

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only, Heidi St. John.

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You can get the outlines of this podcast by going to jackhibbs.com slash podcast.

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Today, if this podcast lifts you up and encourages you to live a more fulfilled life in Christ,

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To us, that's like saying amen or yes, then that rating will encourage others to listen.

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Now open your hearts to what God's Word has to say to you, here is Jack Hibbs.

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Well, hey guys, welcome to our podcast and we've got a special one today and I know

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I probably sound like I'm saying that all the time when we have a special one today,

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but I can't tell you just how much that is true.

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We have with us a woman that I called years ago, Debra, she's Debra in the 21st century.

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You're going to see how true that is in a moment.

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Heidi St. John is waging a war on more fronts than the nations.

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She is not only a culture, truth warrior, loves God, loves Jesus, loves the truth, will

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not sit back and tolerate what is happening to our nation and our children.

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So we're going to try to cover as much topic as we possibly can in this podcast together.

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But I want every one of you to make sure that you click subscribe, like us, spread the

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word because you're going to see why in a moment.

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So with us, we have the amazing unstoppable Heidi St. John.

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So I am not even going to get into Heidi St. John all of the, can you tell everybody

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all of the things that you're involved in because I can't keep up with your dot coms.

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I can't keep up with your, your board memberships and where you're at things that you're

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involved in.

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Please introduce yourself to our group.

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Well, I think the thing, I always like to tell people the thing that I'm most passionate

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about.

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I always talk about first.

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My husband and I are coming up on 35 years of marriage and we have seven children

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and four grandkids.

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And that is the thing that the, the engine, you know, in my car and my love for Jesus.

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But outside of that, I love this country.

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I'm a patriot.

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My grandparents taught me to love this country.

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And so it's motivated me to kind of take a deep dive into what's happening to our nation.

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And I noticed about 20 years ago that there was root rot in the public school system.

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And so we pulled our daughter out of public school when she was in second grade.

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And we began to do this crazy thing called home schooling, which I said I would never

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do.

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We did the same.

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Because what woman in her right mind would, you know, would have a kid home.

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I remember in the 80s when Lisa said, we're going to home school and I'm thinking, are

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we going to go to jail?

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In the 80s, you might have gone to jail, right?

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Yeah.

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It was definitely.

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Absolutely.

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True.

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I had not been for our friend Mike Ferris, right, and the founding of the HSLDA, which

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is one thing I do.

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I sit on the board of that organization, an incredible group of people that have secured

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the home school.

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Home school legal defense fund.

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Yes.

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The home school legal defense association HSLDA.org.

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I've written I think eight, nine books.

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I can't remember.

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I have another one coming out from 10 down.

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It's called Mom Strong 365 Everyday Truths for Everyday Moms, and it's a 365 day devotional

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for a mom.

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So kind of pointing back to what really matters.

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The world has reduced motherhood to a stopover on the highway of life, but God sees it

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as a much greater purpose.

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It's a kingdom purpose.

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I'm absolutely.

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Mothering has a kingdom purpose.

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So I spent a lot of time writing, obviously writing about home schooling in 2017.

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I released a book called Becoming Mom Strong, how to fight with all this in you for your

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family and your faith.

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And it was kind of my story of coming from a place of brokenness and finding the healing

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of God and seeing God do an amazing, miraculous thing in my life.

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So that might be one of my, probably one of my favorite, favorite books.

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I ran for Congress, as you know, a couple years ago, which we can get into from Southern

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We went with that through a watchdew, prayed for you, connected with you, and you learned

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something, huh?

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You learned something about, not only the political machine, but you learned something

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about, um, it's not all that it's perceived.

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No, it is not.

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Well, I think my biggest takeaway was, is there is evil in the Republican Party, just as

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there is evil in the Democrat Party.

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And we need to look for the good.

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We need to find people of character to write.

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Can I suggest that there might even be career Democrats who pray for decades as Republicans,

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as actual covert operations to get elected?

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Absolutely.

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We need it in the so count.

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Absolutely.

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Absolutely in Washington state as well.

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And so we've got to do, we've got to be willing to do our homework on these candidates

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anymore.

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You can't look to see an organization that gives an endorsement, right?

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endorsements to my, to my way of thinking, don't mean much anymore.

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And also, Jay and I are the founders and executive directors of the Friendly Planet

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Home School Resource Center, which just got gifted a $16 million building right in the

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heart of Vancouver.

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I saw this gifted, ladies and gentlemen, gifted.

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God is so blessing their efforts that I saw this facility.

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It's incredibly beautiful, but 16 plus million dollars gifted for a specific reason.

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This is what happens, you guys, when you step out to follow God's interest, God will provide

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what he cares about.

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People are concerned, I don't know if we'll have the money for that.

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Well, you ought to ask yourself, first, is it going to glorify God?

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Or is this your crazy idea?

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In this case, what they stand for is educating, protecting, educating and equipping kids that

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they were those who, I'll just say out of ignorance, they were power brokers or they had

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resources that believe in your vision.

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And through God's hand, they wound up saying, hey, we want to, we believe what you're doing

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and we want to give this to you.

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And it's because it's because you have got your eye focused on the prize.

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And so God comes alongside and brings everything else so you can keep the focus.

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And I think that's, it's a wonderful encouragement to everyone who's listening because we want

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to do what God's doing, right?

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That was Henry Black could be a long time ago, experiencing God's right to change my life.

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And he said, hey, let's look and see what God's doing and join him.

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Let's figure that out.

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You know, God, what are you doing?

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And I think God's heart right now has, has centered on children.

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We know that God cares about our children and they are being injured, body, soul, mind

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and spirit by the public school system, the spirit of the age, absolutely alive and

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well in the public school system.

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And so seven years ago, we opened a full time home school resource center, another building

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that was given to us, smaller, a 20,000 square foot facility and last year, we served

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over 1,600 students there.

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And so we have, we're getting ready to launch our new, at our new facility in September

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it opens.

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We have 230 classes already slated for the fall.

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So we're doing, we're teaching the Constitution, Jack.

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There's a, there's a kicker.

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I think he should start first by teaching Congress the Constitution.

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Yeah, that, there's an idea.

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Charlie Kirk, we had a, I love, first of all, I love him, we're friends, but not but in

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one of our discussions, he was going on about how this is going to happen.

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And I think this, and I said, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, I don't think so.

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What do you mean?

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I said, Charlie, you're assuming that there's a Constitution that's being upheld?

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Yes.

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And he said, don't say that.

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But that's been about, that's been about four years ago.

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We had that conversation.

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Well, now we're seeing blatant abuse of the Constitution.

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It's overwhelmingly true.

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Overwhelmingly true.

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Can you walk us through real quick before we go on to anything else?

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What is the, the day in the life of this homeschool network?

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How does, what does it do?

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Well, it's, it's, first people need to know it's not a drop off.

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We are very convicted that parents need to be in the driver's seat of their children's

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education.

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And so this is true, even in a private Christian school, what happens is parents go, oh,

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I'm going to give my kids.

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Come on.

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Yes.

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This is right.

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When you rise up and when you sit down, when you walk along the road, you doesn't say drop

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your kids off and come back and get in the form, right?

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And so we, we require parents to be on campus, unless they have a high school student that

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is taking a series of classes and, you know, the parents will need to be there for the

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whole thing.

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But as for the most part, and it's open five days a week, everything we do there is

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all a card.

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So we don't have a program.

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We invite Christian teachers and the area to come in and submit class ideas.

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They need to be able to sign a statement of faith.

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We want to know who these people are.

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Do they love Lord Jesus?

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That's the first thing that we look for in a good teacher.

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And then after that, we are putting parents again back in the driver's seat of their kids

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education.

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And we want to find out what is the unique gifting and passion that God has given these children

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because they come to us hardwired with the purpose.

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And so we basically give them a menu and they can choose.

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So a lot of these kids, we've had kids as young as 10 years old, really show an aptitude

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for engineering.

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And so for example, we're exposing them to engineering.

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We have an aviation program.

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We're bringing back the trades again.

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We have a wonderful dance program.

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We are teaching through the whole theology department, all kinds of gifting that we are

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seeing the Lord use.

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In fact, I was giving a tour of the new building just a couple days ago.

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And a gentleman who serves on the elder board of a local church came to see it and he said,

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man, I've got my master's degree in criminology.

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I'd love to come and teach introduction to criminology.

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And so he's going to come and do that in the spring.

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And we're watching the Lord just bring these gifted people.

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And so a mom can come in off the street and she can say, oh my goodness, I just found

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out that the Ridgefield school district is teaching our kids that there's 400 genders

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and they could be a narwhal whale by Friday if they want to be.

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Just like California's Department of Education is doing in every county in the state.

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100%.

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It's so sad.

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But the neat thing about the homeschool resource center and we, our plan is to get

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these in cities across the United States because it works.

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It's working.

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She can come in.

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We can help her figure out how to first withdraw your child from the school.

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And then we sit down and just talk to her about her kids.

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We want to meet your kids.

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Let's talk to your kids.

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What do you guys like?

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What's your passion?

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And so make sure that she's got the help that she needs to homeschool her kids.

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We're not there to do it for you.

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Right.

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We're there to come alongside you.

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Lift their hands up.

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Yes, exactly.

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So explain to people that they're at a point now.

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They've been at a point ever since COVID.

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So many people, including a lot of non-believers who watch this podcast, they've had enough.

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They're not even Christians, but they've figured out this all stinks.

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Yeah, it is.

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And they learned during COVID as they overheard the online class say what?

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That now they're looking for alternative education.

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They can't find it.

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And they're now changing lifestyle to accommodate homeschooling.

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Having said that, show me, walk me through a day at your school.

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You said mom shows up.

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How long is mom and child there that day?

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Do they have shifts?

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People come and go throughout the whole day.

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And so we open at nine and we close at five, but people are coming and going all day long

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because all these classes are all a cart.

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So there is a coffee shop there.

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There's a bookstore there.

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Mom's can come and get a cup of coffee and their kids are going to run down and they're

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going to take a US history class or whatever it is.

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on Thursday for other classes.

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It really is a, you know, you choose your own adventure at the homeschool resource center.

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Our job is to support you.

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schooling, the immediate cry, and it's just, it's like, it's like pull the string.

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And it's this pull the string.

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But what about the socialization hate that?

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Actually, I love it.

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I love it.

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I love it.

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I was still people.

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Oh, I'm so glad you asked.

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That's why we pulled our kids out of public school.

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That's exactly the reason why.

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Guess what?

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We have no metal detectors at our home.

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We don't have condom dispensers at our home.

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We don't have kids being violated, mutilated, and mentally, you know, raped by all of the

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There are, as you well know, as scripture says, a three-chord rope is not easily broken.

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It's true in, in just technology, it's so true in what we're talking about.

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education system for your kids, right?

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And if you have strong fellowship or friends, that triune network of relationship, the world

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cannot compete with.

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So someone in the public school says, oh, Heidi, I can't believe you just said that.

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They don't go back to school for like four more days later to your, to your group.

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You have to remember something.

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What a kid gets in the proper home school setting, like Heidi's describing, blows the traditional

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concept of you gotta come in at eight, you gotta sit through all this garbage and all

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this trash and Bobby sit down, stop pulling her air, all that stuff is gone.

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And in four or five hours, two times a week, the kid is more schooled and look, I'm gonna

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say something radical and you're gonna say no way and I'm gonna say go find out.

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A kid that is exposed to eight hours in five days of giving us time is, that doesn't

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mean that that's eight hours and that's it.

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Eight hours of interface with teacher in learning and then they've got their homework and

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they're doing it and they're working and they're working on projects.

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Hands on, hands on, that when you talk to me about a kid having to be five days a week and

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now they keep shortening the summer breaks and putting them in for longer, five years

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and younger, five days a week, listen, our kids, according to California statistics, the

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longer a child is in the California school system, the dumber they get.

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When they come from home and they go to first, second, third grade, they do great.

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The longer they're in, they get dumber.

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You can research that.

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But thank God, something's being done and we know that what's being done, by the way,

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is something at least our governor and I think our governor somehow is related to your

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governor.

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I'm sure.

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In the Bozo realm.

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Yeah, yeah, or the cousin realm.

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They could be cousins.

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I mean, they can relate it in her marriage, going on anyway, they think the same way they

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have the same policies.

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The point is this Newsom is just like a wolf dripping the fangs.

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He's drooling to crush and stop homeschooling in California because it's the last bastion

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of safety for the kids and it just drives him crazy.

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Well, and they know that homeschooling again is returning parents to their rightful place

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in the home.

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Parental authority.

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That's right.

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And that is the, that will be the new battle front for the next coming years.

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I think we're going to see an even greater assault on parental rights.

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We've been watching this.

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Again, Mike Ferris saw this years ago when he founded parental rights.org, but they've

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been around for 15 years, probably at least.

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The reason the government hates homeschooling is because homeschooling is a freedom movement.

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Housing is a love your kids movement first, and it's a freedom movement.

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It's allowing our kids to learn in freedom.

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It's allowing them to learn about freedom.

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It's allowing them to think freely.

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The government doesn't want our kids to think freely.

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Critical thinking.

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Critical thinking.

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Critical thinking.

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Yes.

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Not anymore, right?

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So we know now that our kids are being injured.

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for Congress, I declared a state of emergency over what is happening to our children.

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And they are coming out of our schools and they are injured.

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And they cannot think critically for themselves.

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And we saw this absolutely front and center, and COVID, in fact, when Jay and I flew down

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here yesterday, I noted that most of the young, most of people wearing masks in the airport

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are young people.

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Absolutely true.

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They have been scared out of their wits, right?

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And they've been indoctrinated to believe that whatever the CDC says, right now the CDC is

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coming out and saying that men can breastfeed, which is such a sick and twisted and perverted

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If that's true, my kid is going to starve to death.

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Well, can you imagine what we're now we're poisoning our children in the name of promoting

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transgenderism?

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We're poisoning little babies.

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This stuff is being taught to little children in the public schools, parents need to get

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their kids out of these schools.

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Help me out here because I have ADD.

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So you just said something and my mind just jumped five tracks over.

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I do that too.

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We'll get along fine.

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So, and they'll have to come back to a topic run here.

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Why would a parent with all that has been revealed in the news available now to know

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what's happening?

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The agenda of the public school system is no longer education.

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It's, I'm not, and I'm not being a conspiracy person.

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It's clear that it's in dark.

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100% clear.

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With all that's going on, how in the world can parents today think or believe that they

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can drop their kid off at school?

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Now, it used to be, if you didn't know, you didn't know, but now everybody knows.

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What are we doing?

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Are we saying as a culture, Heidi, that look either A, I don't care what my kid learns

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in public school, I need the kid out of the way because I got to go do my career.

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I hope that's not the case, but is it, well, I'm trying to put bread on the table and

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food on the table.

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Maybe it's a single mom or a single dad and that's tough life.

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Knowing what you know, the money issue evaporates because we're, if we love our kids, we're

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going to be sacrificial for our children.

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I don't need the Porsche.

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I don't have to have the sailboat in light of my child, the raping of my child's mind.

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We must as a culture have an epic shift in our values now, not later now or else it's

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not going to work.

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Well, the churches have got to be more involved than they have been.

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The what?

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Right, exactly.

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I mean, this is a failure of the church and so many levels 25 years ago when we started

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talking about what was happening in the public schools, we started planting homeschool

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cooperatives.

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So that was the first iteration of the homeschool resource center.

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So my husband and I planted over a hundred homeschool cooperatives all across the United

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States.

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We did a couple of them in Canada.

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We planted one of the Ramstein air base in Germany and we went to probably a thousand

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churches to find one hundred who would say education is important.

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What we heard over and over again was, well, we have tithing members of our church who

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are actively involved in the public school system.

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And we were so frustrated by this that because we realized this is a, this is a failure

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on the part of the church to understand the role of parents and to understand the importance

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of education, education is not neutral.

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We for a long time have thought, oh, education, that's just reading, writing, and arithmetic,

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except for Jesus said, when a student is fully trained, he'll be like his teacher.

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So then it begs the question, what are these teachers like?

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Who are these teachers?

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Well, the reality is we don't know.

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And we haven't known.

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Now we're looking at the agenda of the National Educators Association, which is horrific.

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And the NEA is who sets the tone for the entire public school system.

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Just like the National Library Association sets the agenda for all of our public libraries,

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which are also corrupt and wicked institutions.

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education, then certainly from our pulpits, constantly, over and over and over again,

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a pastor should be telling parents, pay attention to what's happening in the schools, get

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your children out.

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We learned something in COVID.

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We learned that if there was a virus with a 99.9% survival rate, we would shudder our schools

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and take the kids out.

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And I'm telling parents, there is a virus with a 99.9% spiritual mortality rate in our schools

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get your children out of these systems of education and the pastors need to step up

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to the plate.

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You know, it's amazing.

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I do not believe.

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It's my, this is my personal belief.

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I do not believe that God invented COVID and attacked the world with it, okay?

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I believe that COVID was engineered.

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I think the evidence is overwhelming and it was an attack.

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Having said that, God used COVID.

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Absolutely.

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Look, exposed things.

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God was so kind during COVID that he was saying, hey, everybody, look.

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Pay attention.

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Look.

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Number one, look how stupid your government is.

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Number two, what about you?

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What are you going to do with your kids?

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What are you going to do with your family?

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Hey, what are you going to do with your freedom?

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And three, who are you going to listen to?

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So all of a sudden, the foundations of the, I'll say secular world, even though

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it's a God thing, science.

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Science is a God thing.

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God invented science.

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Science, according to the definition, is what you can observe and repeat, test,

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and see, this is science.

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When they said, follow the science.

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Trust the science.

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Trust the science.

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People who are emotional went, okay.

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And what happened was, exactly what you said a moment ago,

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they stopped believing science, because God's fingerprints all over science.

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They listened to a narrative, they listened to a lie, frankly.

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And so today, like you said, you got people walking around predominantly young, that, and

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you can handle this a few ways.

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You could look at them and say, what a dummy.

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Do they not know that a mask cannot stop a virus?

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I want to go up and tell them, but the second thing is, is probably more of the reality

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is, they must be afraid to die.

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If they're afraid to die, they need Jesus.

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So I've told our church, and maybe it's a good time for me to say it on this podcast,

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if you see somebody wearing a mask, that is an open door to go evangelize them with the

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gospel of Christ, because they're terrified.

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But it is so sad because kids today announce that they're so much smarter than we are,

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but they're really not.

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They've got a Wikipedia worldview, a Wikipedia understanding, which is veneer.

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Yeah, yeah.

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And so you're fighting all that by having these kids be taught what matters, how the world

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really works, and what I love about what you're saying is for a kid.

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Can you imagine, what was the last time a kid was told by their parent?

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If you hear something that you don't understand, or if you hear something odd in class, raise

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your hand and ask the teacher, why is that true?

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What did you say?

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You just said this.

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How is that true?

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Kids in school are told to sit down, shut up, and obey.

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And we see it.

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When kids come to the Resource Center from the public school system, they're very quiet,

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or they're just afraid of something new.

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But what we've seen over the last seven years, absolutely true.

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And what we've seen over the years, I had a mom come to me just a couple of weeks ago,

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and she said, thank you.

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She's crying.

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Thank you for the Home School Resource Center.

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00:24:09.480 --> 00:24:11.480
I finally have my daughter back.

485
00:24:11.480 --> 00:24:12.480
Wow.

486
00:24:12.480 --> 00:24:14.240
I haven't seen her in years, right?

487
00:24:14.240 --> 00:24:17.840
Because we're off-shoring, our parenting.

488
00:24:17.840 --> 00:24:21.120
And not only are we off-shoring it, we're off-shoring it to a wicked nation.

489
00:24:21.120 --> 00:24:24.480
I mean, we can look at it that way, there's lots of ways to look at it.

490
00:24:24.480 --> 00:24:27.640
But what we're trying to help these kids do is discover who they are, because God made

491
00:24:27.640 --> 00:24:28.640
them special.

492
00:24:28.640 --> 00:24:29.640
You remember the vegetables?

493
00:24:29.640 --> 00:24:30.640
God made you special.

494
00:24:30.640 --> 00:24:31.920
It lets you very much.

495
00:24:31.920 --> 00:24:35.080
We want the kids to know that when they come to the Home School Resource Center.

496
00:24:35.080 --> 00:24:37.360
And so for that reason, we interview the kids.

497
00:24:37.360 --> 00:24:38.480
Each one of them gets an interview.

498
00:24:38.480 --> 00:24:40.320
We find out what are you interested in?

499
00:24:40.320 --> 00:24:41.320
That's great.

500
00:24:41.320 --> 00:24:42.320
What's your passion?

501
00:24:42.320 --> 00:24:46.000
And the teachers that come in, so students are picking these classes.

502
00:24:46.000 --> 00:24:47.080
We're not giving them to them.

503
00:24:47.080 --> 00:24:51.120
So now you have an engaged room of 12 students, and they're learning about something that

504
00:24:51.120 --> 00:24:52.120
they want.

505
00:24:52.120 --> 00:24:53.120
Yes.

506
00:24:53.120 --> 00:24:54.120
And that is what we're seeing happening.

507
00:24:54.120 --> 00:24:55.120
Yes.

508
00:24:55.120 --> 00:24:56.120
And so I'm less interested.

509
00:24:56.120 --> 00:24:59.320
I'm not interested in a teaching credential for the teachers that come to teach at the

510
00:24:59.320 --> 00:25:00.320
Home School Resource Center.

511
00:25:00.320 --> 00:25:02.720
We're interested in experience and passion.

512
00:25:02.720 --> 00:25:03.880
Do you know Jesus?

513
00:25:03.880 --> 00:25:07.080
Do you have experience in the subject you want to teach, and are you passionate about it?

514
00:25:07.080 --> 00:25:09.320
Do you love these kids like Jesus does?

515
00:25:09.320 --> 00:25:14.040
And boy, I'll tell you what, that recipe is producing incredible results.

516
00:25:14.040 --> 00:25:15.040
Absolutely.

517
00:25:15.040 --> 00:25:16.040
Yeah.

518
00:25:16.040 --> 00:25:21.200
Somebody might say, Heidi, that's so reckless because I'm a teacher, and I have my degree

519
00:25:21.200 --> 00:25:23.440
in whatever.

520
00:25:23.440 --> 00:25:26.520
And it's like, oh, yeah, okay, really?

521
00:25:26.520 --> 00:25:27.520
That's so...

522
00:25:27.520 --> 00:25:28.520
That was the big lie that I believe.

523
00:25:28.520 --> 00:25:29.520
Of course.

524
00:25:29.520 --> 00:25:30.520
That was the big lie that I believe.

525
00:25:30.520 --> 00:25:31.520
Of course.

526
00:25:31.520 --> 00:25:34.000
Every home school mom who doesn't have a teaching certificate feels like she can't do

527
00:25:34.000 --> 00:25:35.000
it.

528
00:25:35.000 --> 00:25:39.320
And when I taught our now 30-year-old daughter to read when she was four years old, I

529
00:25:39.320 --> 00:25:42.600
remember my husband coming home from work one day and I just said, they lied to me.

530
00:25:42.600 --> 00:25:43.600
He said, what do you mean?

531
00:25:43.600 --> 00:25:47.320
I said, my whole life, they've been telling me, I can't teach my own child to read because

532
00:25:47.320 --> 00:25:52.040
I don't have a degree from Oregon State University that makes me a teacher.

533
00:25:52.040 --> 00:25:55.560
And as it turned out, I found a book called Teacher Child to Read in 100 Easy Lessons

534
00:25:55.560 --> 00:25:58.600
and in 100 Easy Lessons, that girl was off to the races.

535
00:25:58.600 --> 00:26:02.720
And she was reading and I taught her to read and it opened my eye to say, oh my goodness,

536
00:26:02.720 --> 00:26:03.720
I can do this.

537
00:26:03.720 --> 00:26:06.000
And I think moms need to know that you can do it.

538
00:26:06.000 --> 00:26:09.560
God will help you do it and it will be far better than anything the public school can

539
00:26:09.560 --> 00:26:10.560
offer.

540
00:26:10.560 --> 00:26:11.960
Public school can't even come close.

541
00:26:11.960 --> 00:26:12.960
No.

542
00:26:12.960 --> 00:26:21.200
And now we're at that timeline on this evolution of public school education and equipping

543
00:26:21.200 --> 00:26:29.080
modern day public school teachers that they don't even know what it is that they are teaching.

544
00:26:29.080 --> 00:26:30.560
They are parrots.

545
00:26:30.560 --> 00:26:31.560
Oh, yes.

546
00:26:31.560 --> 00:26:36.560
They're parrots, not parenting, they're parriting, squat.

547
00:26:36.560 --> 00:26:37.560
They just repeat.

548
00:26:37.560 --> 00:26:38.560
They're saying this.

549
00:26:38.560 --> 00:26:39.560
Where did you get that from?

550
00:26:39.560 --> 00:26:40.560
I got it from Berkeley.

551
00:26:40.560 --> 00:26:41.560
I got it from UCLA.

552
00:26:41.560 --> 00:26:45.120
I have my degree in education.

553
00:26:45.120 --> 00:26:46.320
What does that mean?

554
00:26:46.320 --> 00:26:47.320
I don't know.

555
00:26:47.320 --> 00:26:48.920
I have my degree in education.

556
00:26:48.920 --> 00:26:56.760
So they just spill it onto the kids and God forbid if the kid says ask a question, it completely

557
00:26:56.760 --> 00:26:57.760
stumps them.

558
00:26:57.760 --> 00:26:58.760
They're robotic.

559
00:26:58.760 --> 00:27:02.360
Modern day teachers have by and large become robotic.

560
00:27:02.360 --> 00:27:09.440
But you bring now what we call, by the way, we do here on campus an after school detox program.

561
00:27:09.440 --> 00:27:10.440
We call it detox.

562
00:27:10.440 --> 00:27:11.440
Oh, nice.

563
00:27:11.440 --> 00:27:12.440
That's a good word.

564
00:27:12.440 --> 00:27:13.440
Where it's appropriate.

565
00:27:13.440 --> 00:27:18.240
We're kids who are not homeschool can come here after school and they're detoxed.

566
00:27:18.240 --> 00:27:25.560
We walk them through the real history or the real math or the real, whatever.

567
00:27:25.560 --> 00:27:31.680
The point is that those people who say, Heidi, you're crazy and you, you know, that should

568
00:27:31.680 --> 00:27:32.680
not happen.

569
00:27:32.680 --> 00:27:35.160
Both you guys are nuts.

570
00:27:35.160 --> 00:27:40.880
They have been swimming in a little tiny pool all their lives and they've been conditioned

571
00:27:40.880 --> 00:27:43.920
and then so they come out and they condition others.

572
00:27:43.920 --> 00:27:46.760
They can only take the students as far as they've gone.

573
00:27:46.760 --> 00:27:50.480
And we're graduating people from universities who haven't gone very far.

574
00:27:50.480 --> 00:27:51.480
So.

575
00:27:51.480 --> 00:27:54.360
And a high school in Oregon right now, you don't have to be proficient in reading, writing,

576
00:27:54.360 --> 00:27:56.160
or math to graduate from an Oregon high school.

577
00:27:56.160 --> 00:27:57.480
Kind of a parent approves of that.

578
00:27:57.480 --> 00:27:58.480
Right.

579
00:27:58.480 --> 00:27:59.480
Exactly.

580
00:27:59.480 --> 00:28:03.080
No, and I think parents feel stuck and I want parents, no, you don't have to be stuck.

581
00:28:03.080 --> 00:28:04.080
You don't have to be stuck.

582
00:28:04.080 --> 00:28:08.840
God is raising up a generation of men and women who are at the front lines of this thing

583
00:28:08.840 --> 00:28:12.280
and we are here to say, listen, God loves your kids.

584
00:28:12.280 --> 00:28:13.280
He cares about your kids.

585
00:28:13.280 --> 00:28:14.560
Take him out of these schools.

586
00:28:14.560 --> 00:28:15.560
Take them out.

587
00:28:15.560 --> 00:28:16.560
Do it.

588
00:28:16.560 --> 00:28:20.000
And when you find that community, when you realize, oh my goodness, there are other people

589
00:28:20.000 --> 00:28:21.720
who can help me and you're not alone anymore.

590
00:28:21.720 --> 00:28:25.400
I do think the community aspect of homeschooling is very important.

591
00:28:25.400 --> 00:28:28.520
It's a huge part of what we do at the Resource Center.

592
00:28:28.520 --> 00:28:32.640
But parents need to know that, you know, because I talked to a mom, I don't know where I was,

593
00:28:32.640 --> 00:28:34.440
Tennessee a couple of weeks ago talking about this.

594
00:28:34.440 --> 00:28:38.520
And she said she didn't recognize her children anymore after eight years in the public school.

595
00:28:38.520 --> 00:28:42.880
And I said, well, you're sending your kid to Rome, basically, right?

596
00:28:42.880 --> 00:28:43.880
Eight hours a day.

597
00:28:43.880 --> 00:28:44.880
Five days a week.

598
00:28:44.920 --> 00:28:49.080
Nine months out of the year and then you're surprised when they come out as Romans, right?

599
00:28:49.080 --> 00:28:50.080
We shouldn't be surprised.

600
00:28:50.080 --> 00:28:52.960
When a student is fully trained, he'll be like his teacher.

601
00:28:52.960 --> 00:28:54.880
Parents need to have a paradigm shift.

602
00:28:54.880 --> 00:28:59.080
I was in Alaska, maybe two months ago, speaking to parents there.

603
00:28:59.080 --> 00:29:03.480
And in Alaska, the government programs have taken over homeschooling.

604
00:29:03.480 --> 00:29:06.400
So in other words, they'll give you a $4,000 stipend per child.

605
00:29:06.400 --> 00:29:07.880
I might even be more than that.

606
00:29:07.880 --> 00:29:10.640
If you will do the government's version of homeschooling.

607
00:29:10.640 --> 00:29:14.040
And I was telling, stop taking part in these government.

608
00:29:14.040 --> 00:29:16.720
With shekels come shackles, do not take the government's money.

609
00:29:16.720 --> 00:29:17.520
You don't need it.

610
00:29:17.520 --> 00:29:18.760
You can do this on your own.

611
00:29:18.760 --> 00:29:20.160
I heard over and over and over again.

612
00:29:20.160 --> 00:29:24.040
Well, we have to have, you know, X amount of dollars to support our family.

613
00:29:24.040 --> 00:29:27.240
And by the way, when we take this $4,000 from the government,

614
00:29:27.240 --> 00:29:28.920
my kid can be in a question class.

615
00:29:28.920 --> 00:29:30.240
We can do violin lessons.

616
00:29:30.240 --> 00:29:34.760
And I finally started saying, does your child really need a violin lesson that badly?

617
00:29:34.760 --> 00:29:37.160
We need to do a heart check as parents.

618
00:29:37.160 --> 00:29:39.320
We want to give our kids all of these things,

619
00:29:39.320 --> 00:29:41.880
but we're not giving them what they really need.

620
00:29:41.880 --> 00:29:45.680
And that is a proper understanding of the word and a proper understanding of the world

621
00:29:45.680 --> 00:29:46.800
and their role in it.

622
00:29:46.800 --> 00:29:50.520
And if we can get that right, then we might have a chance in the United States.

623
00:29:50.520 --> 00:29:53.400
You know, just to start, we kind of start with education.

624
00:29:53.400 --> 00:29:54.320
That's where it starts.

625
00:29:54.320 --> 00:29:55.120
That's so powerful.

626
00:29:55.120 --> 00:29:59.040
That's a great, great picture because, well, they're learning violin.

627
00:29:59.040 --> 00:29:59.840
Okay.

628
00:29:59.840 --> 00:30:08.400
But with the violin comes wokeism, socialism, all this gender and racism.

629
00:30:08.400 --> 00:30:11.560
Everything that's, it's almost like an airplane that's been fueled.

630
00:30:11.560 --> 00:30:12.560
It's got fuel.

631
00:30:12.560 --> 00:30:13.560
We got fuel.

632
00:30:13.560 --> 00:30:14.560
And it's socialism.

633
00:30:14.560 --> 00:30:15.560
And there's no wings on the board.

634
00:30:15.560 --> 00:30:19.240
Why are we taking money from the government that we have not earned and do not deserve?

635
00:30:19.240 --> 00:30:21.240
And when we become dependent on the government, right?

636
00:30:21.240 --> 00:30:23.640
And so they stick that bottle in your mouth.

637
00:30:23.640 --> 00:30:27.480
And now the sudden you're getting $4,000 per child and you've put your kids, you're sending

638
00:30:27.480 --> 00:30:31.720
your kids to field trips and you're doing all kinds of, I mean, Jack, I have seven children.

639
00:30:31.720 --> 00:30:35.880
$4,000 time seven is an awful lot of money coming in from the government.

640
00:30:35.880 --> 00:30:39.720
They don't need the money and yet the government is bribing them with it.

641
00:30:39.720 --> 00:30:41.000
Somebody might be saying, oh my gosh.

642
00:30:41.000 --> 00:30:42.000
This is overwhelming.

643
00:30:42.000 --> 00:30:43.000
This is too much information.

644
00:30:43.000 --> 00:30:44.640
I don't think I can do it.

645
00:30:44.640 --> 00:30:50.320
You know, we learned early on and back in our day, there was, there were very few helps,

646
00:30:50.320 --> 00:30:56.160
but homeschooling legal defense was there for us, they helped us, they filed with you,

647
00:30:56.160 --> 00:31:01.800
the affidavit, you legal, you're all good, you're not breaking the law, you're all in there.

648
00:31:01.800 --> 00:31:06.840
But here's the thing that we learned really quickly was, and you said it right at the

649
00:31:06.840 --> 00:31:12.200
get-go, is find out what your kids interested in.

650
00:31:12.200 --> 00:31:17.920
Just the definition of the word class is a bad thing, class.

651
00:31:17.920 --> 00:31:25.160
You pile people into a room and these are 40 individuals completely wired different,

652
00:31:25.160 --> 00:31:30.400
built by God, which is not recognized or honored in the public tools system, with a particular

653
00:31:30.400 --> 00:31:31.400
bent.

654
00:31:31.400 --> 00:31:36.520
That's what the Bible says, train up a child in the way that they should go.

655
00:31:36.520 --> 00:31:39.320
That presupposes that you discover the way.

656
00:31:39.320 --> 00:31:40.320
Yes.

657
00:31:40.320 --> 00:31:48.240
So in our home, in your home, in every home, you've got a kid who is, you mentioned an engineer,

658
00:31:48.240 --> 00:31:50.320
has an engineering mind.

659
00:31:50.320 --> 00:31:52.280
Then you've got another kid, which is amazing.

660
00:31:52.280 --> 00:31:56.960
Another fingerprint of God is that these two kids came from the same place, from the same

661
00:31:56.960 --> 00:31:57.960
parents.

662
00:31:57.960 --> 00:31:58.960
That's right.

663
00:31:58.960 --> 00:31:59.960
How could there be so different?

664
00:31:59.960 --> 00:32:00.960
Creation on a beam.

665
00:32:00.960 --> 00:32:01.960
Yes.

666
00:32:01.960 --> 00:32:02.960
It's God.

667
00:32:02.960 --> 00:32:05.840
So this one loves tinkering with engineering stuff.

668
00:32:05.840 --> 00:32:07.200
You say, how do I know?

669
00:32:07.200 --> 00:32:10.880
When he was three years old, he loved to take things apart.

670
00:32:10.880 --> 00:32:11.880
Yep.

671
00:32:11.880 --> 00:32:17.120
Don't think your kids being a brat, every time I walk into the bathroom, that my kid took

672
00:32:17.120 --> 00:32:19.480
the blow dryer apart.

673
00:32:19.480 --> 00:32:21.680
You've got an engineer on your hands.

674
00:32:21.680 --> 00:32:26.120
But then you walk into the other room with your kid, and this one has got drawings all

675
00:32:26.120 --> 00:32:29.880
over the room, and you ask, what is that?

676
00:32:29.880 --> 00:32:32.280
And they'll tell you, and let them do this.

677
00:32:32.280 --> 00:32:33.280
Let them do it.

678
00:32:33.280 --> 00:32:34.280
Yes.

679
00:32:34.280 --> 00:32:38.600
Oh, this is an airplane that I'm making for the future, and it's going to be this way.

680
00:32:38.600 --> 00:32:41.640
And it goes, let them develop that.

681
00:32:41.640 --> 00:32:43.040
Let them tell you the story.

682
00:32:43.040 --> 00:32:44.360
Let them draw it.

683
00:32:44.360 --> 00:32:46.360
Don't say, well, that's dumb.

684
00:32:46.360 --> 00:32:48.160
Let it never happen.

685
00:32:48.160 --> 00:32:49.160
Let them go.

686
00:32:49.160 --> 00:32:51.320
I'm serious.

687
00:32:51.320 --> 00:32:58.120
Let them give them things as basically, look, there's a lot of psychological studies on

688
00:32:58.120 --> 00:32:59.120
this part.

689
00:32:59.120 --> 00:33:02.320
Is that an infant down, and you give them various toys?

690
00:33:02.320 --> 00:33:03.320
They'll gravitate.

691
00:33:03.320 --> 00:33:05.440
They'll gravitate to various toys.

692
00:33:05.440 --> 00:33:06.440
Not all of them.

693
00:33:06.440 --> 00:33:07.440
They'll gravitate to some of them.

694
00:33:07.440 --> 00:33:12.920
I think how opposite to that, the schools are, because it's institutionalized learning.

695
00:33:12.920 --> 00:33:13.920
Yeah, it's institutionalized.

696
00:33:13.920 --> 00:33:15.440
And it's hurting our kids.

697
00:33:15.440 --> 00:33:21.320
I mean, if you took out the gender indoctrination, which is horrific, and the pronoun use, in my

698
00:33:21.320 --> 00:33:26.320
little town of Battleground, Washington, right now, where I live, at last count, and Battleground,

699
00:33:26.320 --> 00:33:28.680
I was born, I was raised in a town called Boring.

700
00:33:28.680 --> 00:33:29.680
And now I live in Battleground.

701
00:33:29.680 --> 00:33:30.680
It's not last time.

702
00:33:30.680 --> 00:33:31.680
You were born in Boring?

703
00:33:31.680 --> 00:33:32.680
Yes.

704
00:33:32.680 --> 00:33:33.680
Well, I was born in Portland, raised in Boring.

705
00:33:33.680 --> 00:33:34.680
Is there a difference?

706
00:33:34.680 --> 00:33:35.680
No, I'm kidding.

707
00:33:35.680 --> 00:33:36.680
Yeah.

708
00:33:36.680 --> 00:33:38.680
Well, Portland is anything but boring.

709
00:33:38.680 --> 00:33:39.680
This is true.

710
00:33:39.680 --> 00:33:41.680
And now I live in Battleground.

711
00:33:41.680 --> 00:33:42.680
Yeah.

712
00:33:42.680 --> 00:33:43.680
You knew that.

713
00:33:43.680 --> 00:33:44.680
You knew that that was going to happen, right?

714
00:33:44.680 --> 00:33:48.680
So, it's not last on me, that the Lord took me from Boring to Battleground, but in

715
00:33:48.680 --> 00:33:49.680
Battleground.

716
00:33:49.680 --> 00:33:50.680
That was so great.

717
00:33:50.680 --> 00:33:51.680
Yeah.

718
00:33:51.680 --> 00:33:55.480
In Battleground, Washington, right now, there are at least four boys with passes to access

719
00:33:55.480 --> 00:33:56.680
the girls' locker rooms.

720
00:33:56.680 --> 00:33:57.680
Okay.

721
00:33:57.680 --> 00:33:58.680
That's not demonic.

722
00:33:58.680 --> 00:33:59.680
Tell me that's not satanic.

723
00:33:59.680 --> 00:34:00.680
That's not important.

724
00:34:00.680 --> 00:34:06.680
We're injuring our children, and I want parents to know this is happening to your children.

725
00:34:06.680 --> 00:34:07.680
This is happening.

726
00:34:07.680 --> 00:34:13.280
And we can't turn a blind eye to it, and God will hold us responsible for what we allow

727
00:34:13.280 --> 00:34:17.200
to come into the lives of our children, and parents need to take it seriously.

728
00:34:17.200 --> 00:34:18.680
This isn't a game.

729
00:34:18.680 --> 00:34:19.680
These children are coming in.

730
00:34:19.680 --> 00:34:23.360
And what the public school starts are secular universities finish.

731
00:34:23.360 --> 00:34:25.160
So you get your kid out of a public high school.

732
00:34:25.160 --> 00:34:28.160
They say, by the grace of God, they survive it, and they have their emotions intact.

733
00:34:28.160 --> 00:34:33.160
And then you send them to a public university, and you get indoctrination to the nth degree

734
00:34:33.160 --> 00:34:35.160
there, and then they come out as a raging leftist.

735
00:34:35.160 --> 00:34:36.160
Yeah.

736
00:34:36.160 --> 00:34:41.840
Well, you can lay a lot of the blame at the feet of parents who need to take responsibility

737
00:34:41.840 --> 00:34:43.160
for the education of their kids.

738
00:34:43.160 --> 00:34:45.560
I'll go, and I know you agree on this.

739
00:34:45.560 --> 00:34:47.960
I will go even further.

740
00:34:47.960 --> 00:34:53.560
You can blame the parents, absolutely.

741
00:34:53.560 --> 00:35:00.720
But I believe that it is the job, the calling, the purpose of the local church to give those

742
00:35:00.720 --> 00:35:04.200
parents everything they need to raise up a godly home.

743
00:35:04.200 --> 00:35:08.520
I believe the answer to everything someone's going to say, we're so, so serving.

744
00:35:08.520 --> 00:35:10.000
Not really.

745
00:35:10.000 --> 00:35:16.360
I believe that the church is literally the epicenter for either total disaster or absolute recovery.

746
00:35:16.360 --> 00:35:17.360
Where does judgment begin?

747
00:35:18.360 --> 00:35:19.360
At the house of the Lord.

748
00:35:19.360 --> 00:35:20.360
That's right.

749
00:35:20.360 --> 00:35:29.680
And so, for example, I have a neighbor who's left and on her front line, it says, there's

750
00:35:29.680 --> 00:35:36.040
a sign, and it has a silhouette of a church and the silhouette of the capital.

751
00:35:36.040 --> 00:35:37.680
And it has a line between the two.

752
00:35:37.680 --> 00:35:38.680
This is your neighbor.

753
00:35:38.680 --> 00:35:39.680
Yeah, of course.

754
00:35:39.680 --> 00:35:40.680
The separation of church and state.

755
00:35:40.680 --> 00:35:41.680
That's the way God works.

756
00:35:41.680 --> 00:35:42.680
Yeah, it is.

757
00:35:42.680 --> 00:35:43.680
Excellent.

758
00:35:44.680 --> 00:35:47.600
And what's funny is we both take care of each other.

759
00:35:47.600 --> 00:35:50.040
We take each other's trash cans in and out when appropriate.

760
00:35:50.040 --> 00:35:52.720
We help each other's animals when time of night.

761
00:35:52.720 --> 00:35:57.000
But look, the thing is separation of church and state.

762
00:35:57.000 --> 00:36:01.760
And it's such a hilarious thing because I guess you could say that in Germany.

763
00:36:01.760 --> 00:36:03.680
You could say that in Holland.

764
00:36:03.680 --> 00:36:05.480
You could say that in Australia.

765
00:36:05.480 --> 00:36:06.880
There's one country on earth.

766
00:36:06.880 --> 00:36:07.880
You can't say that.

767
00:36:07.880 --> 00:36:09.600
I mean, you can say it.

768
00:36:09.600 --> 00:36:10.600
It's just not true.

769
00:36:10.600 --> 00:36:11.600
It's not true.

770
00:36:11.600 --> 00:36:12.600
That's the United States.

771
00:36:12.600 --> 00:36:13.600
That's right.

772
00:36:13.600 --> 00:36:17.480
Let her and the Thomas Jefferson wrote to the Danbury Baptist Church, which the left

773
00:36:17.480 --> 00:36:22.360
has had a field day with now for generations of church and state.

774
00:36:22.360 --> 00:36:26.400
He was saying the opposite completely opposite, and yet the left has hijacked it.

775
00:36:26.400 --> 00:36:32.040
And you think anybody at CNN has read that letter from Thomas Jefferson?

776
00:36:32.040 --> 00:36:33.040
No.

777
00:36:33.040 --> 00:36:37.400
First amendment, people will say separation church and state, where's that at?

778
00:36:37.400 --> 00:36:38.400
We actually did this.

779
00:36:38.400 --> 00:36:41.240
We actually had a tour in Washington DC.

780
00:36:41.240 --> 00:36:47.240
And we visited the various national monuments, the Library of Congress, the National Archives.

781
00:36:47.240 --> 00:36:49.960
And the constitutions there, the Declaration of Independence is there.

782
00:36:49.960 --> 00:36:50.960
It's on display.

783
00:36:50.960 --> 00:36:51.960
It's amazing, actually.

784
00:36:51.960 --> 00:36:52.960
Yeah.

785
00:36:52.960 --> 00:36:56.320
And so we had, we had someone go up.

786
00:36:56.320 --> 00:37:00.720
They were a high schooler and they asked the park ranger, hey, where can I find the

787
00:37:00.720 --> 00:37:03.200
separation church and state statement?

788
00:37:03.200 --> 00:37:05.800
And the guy said, come with me.

789
00:37:05.800 --> 00:37:11.040
He walks over to the first amendment and he goes, it's right here in the kid.

790
00:37:11.040 --> 00:37:14.640
The guy, the guy starts to walk away, then the park ranger starts to walk away.

791
00:37:14.640 --> 00:37:16.280
I watched this.

792
00:37:16.280 --> 00:37:19.200
It's kind of a set up, poor park ranger.

793
00:37:19.200 --> 00:37:22.640
The kid reads it and then he goes over and he goes, I'm sorry, I can't find it.

794
00:37:22.640 --> 00:37:25.160
He goes, it's in the first amendment.

795
00:37:25.160 --> 00:37:31.040
So they go over and he has the park ranger read it and the park ranger reads it.

796
00:37:31.040 --> 00:37:32.760
And he's silent and he's blank.

797
00:37:32.760 --> 00:37:33.760
Yeah.

798
00:37:33.760 --> 00:37:34.760
It's not there.

799
00:37:34.760 --> 00:37:35.760
No.

800
00:37:35.760 --> 00:37:37.200
It's not there and he was shocked.

801
00:37:37.200 --> 00:37:39.160
People think it's there.

802
00:37:39.160 --> 00:37:42.880
If you're going to think anything of all, at all, you said a correct, the exact opposite

803
00:37:42.880 --> 00:37:43.880
is there.

804
00:37:43.880 --> 00:37:46.120
The exact opposite is there cannot listen.

805
00:37:46.120 --> 00:37:51.760
We came from a, we came from a kingdom, our founding fathers left the kingdom that mandated

806
00:37:51.760 --> 00:37:53.920
a state church.

807
00:37:53.920 --> 00:38:00.760
And that Dan Berry convention of Baptists said, hey, Tom, remember, we know you, you know

808
00:38:00.760 --> 00:38:01.760
us.

809
00:38:01.760 --> 00:38:02.760
You're helping to this, right?

810
00:38:02.760 --> 00:38:03.760
You are now president.

811
00:38:03.760 --> 00:38:04.760
Yep.

812
00:38:04.760 --> 00:38:09.680
I want to remind you, do not establish a state religion.

813
00:38:09.680 --> 00:38:14.120
And he said, I guarantee you, I won't do that.

814
00:38:14.120 --> 00:38:18.600
There's going to be a separate, the, the government will not encroach upon your freedom

815
00:38:18.600 --> 00:38:19.600
of worship.

816
00:38:19.600 --> 00:38:22.360
And we will not mandate a state church.

817
00:38:22.360 --> 00:38:24.080
It's exactly what we believe it is.

818
00:38:24.080 --> 00:38:25.080
It is.

819
00:38:25.080 --> 00:38:26.080
It absolutely true.

820
00:38:26.080 --> 00:38:30.720
And yet we've watched that message be maligned and twisted and used against Christians

821
00:38:30.720 --> 00:38:31.720
now.

822
00:38:31.720 --> 00:38:34.960
And we don't have the education about our constitution when we don't understand the

823
00:38:34.960 --> 00:38:39.560
founding fathers, Thomas Jefferson said we needed to teach the rising generation about

824
00:38:39.560 --> 00:38:44.080
the founding of our nation so that we would not forget because they knew we would be prone

825
00:38:44.080 --> 00:38:48.280
to going right back into tyranny, which is where we are rapidly heading.

826
00:38:48.280 --> 00:38:53.120
And so I, I think, I mean, you and I both, we know, uh, Rick Green is a dear friend of mine.

827
00:38:53.120 --> 00:38:54.120
Yes.

828
00:38:54.120 --> 00:38:58.680
And so we taught his classes actually last year, during my run for Congress, we, uh,

829
00:38:58.680 --> 00:39:02.880
he came up and we toured, we toured congressional district three.

830
00:39:02.880 --> 00:39:06.040
And I spent less time talking about my run for Congress and more time talking about the

831
00:39:06.040 --> 00:39:10.720
constitution because people don't understand the constitution of the United States, which

832
00:39:10.720 --> 00:39:15.000
is the highest law on the land, which is how they allowed the government to abuse us so

833
00:39:15.000 --> 00:39:16.680
badly in COVID.

834
00:39:16.680 --> 00:39:20.840
It's why you saw a president Biden who knew full well he did not have the right to be

835
00:39:20.840 --> 00:39:25.440
the constitution to do debt forgiveness for all these students, right, plunging us more

836
00:39:25.440 --> 00:39:27.360
and more and more into debt than we already are.

837
00:39:27.360 --> 00:39:31.200
The Supreme Court obviously came around and said, actually, and the constitution doesn't

838
00:39:31.200 --> 00:39:32.200
give you that power.

839
00:39:32.200 --> 00:39:33.200
Only Congress can do that.

840
00:39:33.200 --> 00:39:36.320
Biden knew that and he bypassed purposely.

841
00:39:36.320 --> 00:39:37.840
He bypassed Congress.

842
00:39:37.840 --> 00:39:42.040
So now we have people in the highest positions of authority in our land who are absolutely

843
00:39:42.040 --> 00:39:44.200
going against the constitution.

844
00:39:44.200 --> 00:39:47.920
And if the American people don't understand that, we're in trouble.

845
00:39:47.920 --> 00:39:49.720
They don't understand it.

846
00:39:49.720 --> 00:39:51.440
They don't, we are in trouble.

847
00:39:51.440 --> 00:39:56.720
We talked about God's going to hold us accountable.

848
00:39:56.720 --> 00:40:01.720
That is true in the end, I believe he's holding us accountable now, right now today.

849
00:40:01.720 --> 00:40:04.800
This is not, well, you know, I'll deal with that later.

850
00:40:04.800 --> 00:40:08.360
No, no, you're dealing with it now in your culture, in your life, in your family, with

851
00:40:08.360 --> 00:40:13.360
your kids, unless we speak up now, it's lost.

852
00:40:13.360 --> 00:40:18.400
It's, I like to put it this way because for me, it's so graphic where there are people

853
00:40:18.400 --> 00:40:25.920
who are saying things like, well, yeah, I saw what happened up in, you know, Mariposa

854
00:40:25.920 --> 00:40:31.440
County, or I saw what happened in San Francisco, whoo, it's sure a good thing that, you know,

855
00:40:31.440 --> 00:40:35.440
I'm down here in Southern California, it's a little bit more conservative down here.

856
00:40:35.440 --> 00:40:38.360
Hey, cancer spreads.

857
00:40:38.360 --> 00:40:39.360
Yes.

858
00:40:39.360 --> 00:40:45.640
And it has already spread what you don't realize, mom and dad, is the fact that you've

859
00:40:45.640 --> 00:40:49.720
not gone to a school board meeting, have you?

860
00:40:49.720 --> 00:40:53.600
When was the last time mom and dad you've gone to a school board meeting where your kid

861
00:40:53.600 --> 00:40:54.920
goes to school?

862
00:40:54.920 --> 00:40:58.560
And just listen, you can, you know, you can do that.

863
00:40:58.560 --> 00:41:00.000
You can sit and you listen.

864
00:41:00.000 --> 00:41:01.000
And you should.

865
00:41:01.000 --> 00:41:02.000
It's eye opening.

866
00:41:02.000 --> 00:41:03.160
I believe you must.

867
00:41:03.160 --> 00:41:04.160
Yes.

868
00:41:04.160 --> 00:41:09.400
And you don't have to say a word, just watch how it plays out.

869
00:41:09.400 --> 00:41:12.040
You will, your mind will be blown.

870
00:41:12.040 --> 00:41:18.360
But Sir Edmund Burke during the Revolutionary Period said from Parliament, all that evil

871
00:41:18.360 --> 00:41:22.960
needs to do to triumph is for good men to do nothing.

872
00:41:22.960 --> 00:41:30.760
That's what's happening today, evil, evil is not, I don't like to give evil credit.

873
00:41:30.760 --> 00:41:35.120
I don't believe that evil is smart.

874
00:41:35.120 --> 00:41:37.720
Evil is an opportunist.

875
00:41:37.720 --> 00:41:42.200
If a door is left open, any idiot knows, I can walk through it.

876
00:41:42.200 --> 00:41:43.760
That's what evil does.

877
00:41:43.760 --> 00:41:49.320
If the guards are sleeping, evil knows, time to attack.

878
00:41:49.320 --> 00:41:57.480
If nobody shows up to defend a school board policy or somebody's introducing, we just

879
00:41:57.480 --> 00:42:07.040
had this here locally where we had conservative school board members introduce a gender

880
00:42:07.040 --> 00:42:13.560
protection policy, which was really brilliant, actually, it's compassionate, it was awesome.

881
00:42:13.560 --> 00:42:18.200
It protected kids who are not going through this anomaly.

882
00:42:18.200 --> 00:42:22.440
Let's remember, this isn't, it isn't anomaly, it happens, but it's an anomaly.

883
00:42:22.440 --> 00:42:23.440
It's not the norm.

884
00:42:23.440 --> 00:42:24.920
Well, now it's a social contagion.

885
00:42:24.920 --> 00:42:29.640
See, the, the, because people didn't speak up, they've made it the norm.

886
00:42:29.640 --> 00:42:30.800
That's right.

887
00:42:30.800 --> 00:42:34.360
And so now people are saying, why is it, in fact, there's great graphs and great data

888
00:42:34.400 --> 00:42:39.160
on this, where why now all of a sudden in the last several years, all these kids are

889
00:42:39.160 --> 00:42:44.280
now suddenly gender-confused and trans and this and they don't know what, am I a furry?

890
00:42:44.280 --> 00:42:46.120
Do I need a cat box in the classroom?

891
00:42:46.120 --> 00:42:48.560
Seriously, I'm not joking, no.

892
00:42:48.560 --> 00:42:49.560
Where did this come from?

893
00:42:49.560 --> 00:42:53.160
You mentioned a word earlier, which people don't want to hear about.

894
00:42:53.160 --> 00:42:56.720
I can tell you right now they don't want to hear it, they're going to turn it off.

895
00:42:56.720 --> 00:43:00.920
And yet I'll, I'll set it this way.

896
00:43:00.920 --> 00:43:03.120
Do we really believe in the Bible?

897
00:43:03.120 --> 00:43:04.680
Do we really believe in God?

898
00:43:04.680 --> 00:43:08.640
Don't say yes, because I seriously doubt a lot of people do.

899
00:43:08.640 --> 00:43:12.360
Oh, yeah, I believe in God, I believe in the Bible, I go to church.

900
00:43:12.360 --> 00:43:17.000
That may, may or may not be a good thing.

901
00:43:17.000 --> 00:43:21.360
If I were to say to you what Heidi said a moment ago, she dropped one word that I wonder

902
00:43:21.360 --> 00:43:23.320
if you caught it.

903
00:43:23.320 --> 00:43:28.760
She said that's demonic, well, that's actually two words, isn't it?

904
00:43:28.760 --> 00:43:34.840
It is demonic.

905
00:43:34.840 --> 00:43:39.640
Notice that in the Bible, Satan always goes after children.

906
00:43:39.640 --> 00:43:44.840
First of all, they're easy to deceive because they're so trusting.

907
00:43:44.840 --> 00:43:54.840
They are also a very high value target for the kingdom of woke and evil and sick because

908
00:43:54.840 --> 00:44:01.360
all you have to do is what I hear constantly, Heidi, this is for real.

909
00:44:01.360 --> 00:44:06.160
Every school year now that starts, we're coming up on a new school season, coming up.

910
00:44:06.160 --> 00:44:08.800
Here's what's going to happen here.

911
00:44:08.800 --> 00:44:11.440
Or at the market, someone's going to stop me.

912
00:44:11.440 --> 00:44:18.920
Mom's going to start crying and she's going to say we're three weeks into school and

913
00:44:19.000 --> 00:44:25.960
I sent my daughter into the seventh grade, my daughter.

914
00:44:25.960 --> 00:44:30.360
And in three weeks, my daughter came home and said she's a boy.

915
00:44:30.360 --> 00:44:32.840
And I asked her, where did you get this from?

916
00:44:32.840 --> 00:44:38.560
And the teacher said, listen to this, the teacher said, have you ever thought that it

917
00:44:38.560 --> 00:44:45.120
had ever meant until your mind what it would be like maybe to touch another boy or to

918
00:44:45.120 --> 00:44:49.080
touch another girl, you being a girl, touch a girl, you being a boy, touch a boy.

919
00:44:49.080 --> 00:44:50.760
Have you ever thought that thought?

920
00:44:50.760 --> 00:44:54.640
If you thought the thought, you might be gay.

921
00:44:54.640 --> 00:44:59.800
Listen kids are curious and every kid goes through sexual development and their mind and

922
00:44:59.800 --> 00:45:03.840
their bodies rarely align until later on in life.

923
00:45:03.840 --> 00:45:04.840
Curiosity is normal.

924
00:45:04.840 --> 00:45:06.440
That's what parenting is for.

925
00:45:06.440 --> 00:45:09.960
Hey, Junior, take off your sister's high heels.

926
00:45:09.960 --> 00:45:11.400
Those are not for you, dude.

927
00:45:11.400 --> 00:45:13.920
Put your dad's boots on it if you want to goof off.

928
00:45:14.000 --> 00:45:15.840
That's what that's called, parenting.

929
00:45:15.840 --> 00:45:19.560
Hey, mom, came home, turns out my teacher said I might be a girl.

930
00:45:19.560 --> 00:45:21.240
Well, guess what, you're not.

931
00:45:21.240 --> 00:45:22.200
You're not a girl.

932
00:45:22.200 --> 00:45:23.080
You're a boy.

933
00:45:23.080 --> 00:45:24.360
Check under the hood.

934
00:45:24.360 --> 00:45:25.600
Those are boy parts.

935
00:45:25.600 --> 00:45:27.200
Here's the deal.

936
00:45:27.200 --> 00:45:28.760
Your teacher doesn't know what they're talking about.

937
00:45:28.760 --> 00:45:29.760
They have an agenda.

938
00:45:29.760 --> 00:45:35.680
In fact, let's sit down and let's learn a lesson about demonic deception because we're

939
00:45:35.680 --> 00:45:36.840
Christians.

940
00:45:36.840 --> 00:45:40.320
Bible said it's going to increase on the last days and how did you think was going to

941
00:45:40.320 --> 00:45:41.320
arrive?

942
00:45:41.320 --> 00:45:43.320
And red tights underwear with a pitchfork?

943
00:45:43.320 --> 00:45:44.320
No.

944
00:45:44.320 --> 00:45:46.320
How did Satan come to Eve?

945
00:45:46.320 --> 00:45:47.320
Haive.

946
00:45:47.320 --> 00:45:48.320
Did God really say?

947
00:45:48.320 --> 00:45:54.000
Did God really say, I've got a better, listen, check this out.

948
00:45:54.000 --> 00:45:55.000
And that's what's happening.

949
00:45:55.000 --> 00:45:57.880
But parents will say, all more Christians, but we don't get involved.

950
00:45:57.880 --> 00:45:58.880
You're derelict.

951
00:45:58.880 --> 00:45:59.880
Yeah.

952
00:45:59.880 --> 00:46:04.640
Well, you and I know, and I'm going to, I mean, I hate to keep beating the dead horse,

953
00:46:04.640 --> 00:46:08.560
but we've got to see Christians step up to the plate, get off the bench, get onto

954
00:46:08.560 --> 00:46:09.560
the battlefield.

955
00:46:09.560 --> 00:46:14.640
Pastors have got to, I just think that the church is culpable for so much of this.

956
00:46:14.640 --> 00:46:15.640
It breaks my heart.

957
00:46:15.640 --> 00:46:18.080
I told you in my run for Congress, I went to 200 churches.

958
00:46:18.080 --> 00:46:19.080
Yeah.

959
00:46:19.080 --> 00:46:20.080
How much it allowed you to?

960
00:46:20.080 --> 00:46:21.080
Two out of 200.

961
00:46:21.080 --> 00:46:22.080
Two out of 200.

962
00:46:22.080 --> 00:46:23.080
Two out of 200.

963
00:46:23.080 --> 00:46:28.360
And so when I had the opportunity, after my run for Congress is over, I spoke for a

964
00:46:28.360 --> 00:46:32.280
Republican event not too long ago, and I said, I am sick and tired of hearing pastors

965
00:46:32.280 --> 00:46:34.280
who are hiding behind their 501C3s.

966
00:46:34.280 --> 00:46:36.160
I said, you want to know what that C stands for?

967
00:46:36.160 --> 00:46:37.160
It stands for coward.

968
00:46:37.720 --> 00:46:38.720
It stands for coward.

969
00:46:38.720 --> 00:46:44.480
And every single one of you, yes, if you, if your 501C3 is keeping you from doing what

970
00:46:44.480 --> 00:46:48.600
is right, then you better get rid of the 501C3 because God's going to hold you responsible

971
00:46:48.600 --> 00:46:52.360
for the lack of stewardship of the platform that he gave you.

972
00:46:52.360 --> 00:46:53.760
He gave you that platform.

973
00:46:53.760 --> 00:46:57.640
If the church is not at the front of this issue, who will be at the front?

974
00:46:57.640 --> 00:46:59.240
The forces of evil will be at the front.

975
00:46:59.240 --> 00:47:00.240
This is the time.

976
00:47:00.240 --> 00:47:01.240
That's obvious.

977
00:47:01.240 --> 00:47:02.240
Yes.

978
00:47:02.240 --> 00:47:04.440
So why I'm playing them, I know the answer.

979
00:47:04.440 --> 00:47:11.880
So why would a pastor or a board of a church or a denomination be so interested in 501C3

980
00:47:11.880 --> 00:47:13.240
when it's not even in the Bible?

981
00:47:13.240 --> 00:47:14.240
Right.

982
00:47:14.240 --> 00:47:15.240
It's money.

983
00:47:15.240 --> 00:47:16.240
Why?

984
00:47:16.240 --> 00:47:17.240
It's money.

985
00:47:17.240 --> 00:47:18.240
And money has a name in the Bible.

986
00:47:18.240 --> 00:47:19.240
What's it called?

987
00:47:19.240 --> 00:47:20.240
Evil.

988
00:47:20.240 --> 00:47:23.240
Well, yes, but it's the love of it because it's evil.

989
00:47:23.240 --> 00:47:24.240
Yes.

990
00:47:24.240 --> 00:47:25.240
It's a deity.

991
00:47:25.240 --> 00:47:26.240
It's a deity.

992
00:47:26.240 --> 00:47:32.120
I remember being in the Vatican on tour and I saw Maman.

993
00:47:32.120 --> 00:47:33.760
Maman is an actual God.

994
00:47:33.760 --> 00:47:35.240
It's a deity.

995
00:47:35.240 --> 00:47:44.280
And we've got pastors who are trying to convince themselves because the more they say it, the

996
00:47:44.280 --> 00:47:45.280
more they feel better.

997
00:47:45.280 --> 00:47:46.280
The better it sounds.

998
00:47:46.280 --> 00:47:47.280
Sure.

999
00:47:47.280 --> 00:47:48.280
We can't think.

1000
00:47:48.280 --> 00:47:50.080
We can't talk about abortion.

1001
00:47:50.080 --> 00:47:55.000
We can't talk about LGBTQ, elemental, whatever, the alphabet mafia.

1002
00:47:55.000 --> 00:47:56.000
The alphabet mafia.

1003
00:47:56.000 --> 00:47:56.840
We can't talk about that.

1004
00:47:56.840 --> 00:47:58.840
We can't talk about BLM.

1005
00:47:58.840 --> 00:48:03.200
We can't talk about this because either a board member or the board has decided or the

1006
00:48:03.200 --> 00:48:07.200
church government is less and so and listen, just cut to the chase.

1007
00:48:07.200 --> 00:48:09.520
You're afraid of losing money, aren't you?

1008
00:48:09.520 --> 00:48:14.680
And the pastor will, depending upon the church government, the pastor will either be a

1009
00:48:14.680 --> 00:48:19.080
fearful of man, which is a sin because he's afraid he's going to get fired.

1010
00:48:19.080 --> 00:48:22.520
If you get fired from a church like that, that's called a promotion.

1011
00:48:22.520 --> 00:48:23.520
Yes.

1012
00:48:23.600 --> 00:48:33.240
And then the other thing is this, that if you as a board think that you need a IRS tax

1013
00:48:33.240 --> 00:48:39.680
provision for your church to thrive, you're not a church.

1014
00:48:39.680 --> 00:48:42.080
You're not a New Testament church.

1015
00:48:42.080 --> 00:48:45.120
You might be a nonprofit organization, but don't call yourself a church.

1016
00:48:45.120 --> 00:48:47.480
Oh, we preach the gospel.

1017
00:48:47.480 --> 00:48:48.480
You know what?

1018
00:48:48.480 --> 00:48:50.080
Maybe you should repent of that.

1019
00:48:50.080 --> 00:48:52.720
If that's all you preach is the gospel.

1020
00:48:52.720 --> 00:48:55.880
Why don't you preach the full council of God, which is everything.

1021
00:48:55.880 --> 00:48:59.200
You're touching on something that is so important because, and this was a large part of the

1022
00:48:59.200 --> 00:49:00.280
reason why I ran for Congress.

1023
00:49:00.280 --> 00:49:04.360
I know the Lord asked me to do it, but for years and years and years I've been telling

1024
00:49:04.360 --> 00:49:06.280
parents, get off the bench, get on to the battlefield.

1025
00:49:06.280 --> 00:49:09.200
Well, I thought the Lord said, you know, how about you not telling people to do it this

1026
00:49:09.200 --> 00:49:10.200
time?

1027
00:49:10.200 --> 00:49:11.200
How about you do it?

1028
00:49:11.200 --> 00:49:12.200
But I think we are involved.

1029
00:49:12.200 --> 00:49:14.240
Christians need to be in every sphere of influence.

1030
00:49:14.240 --> 00:49:15.240
We belong in medicine.

1031
00:49:15.240 --> 00:49:16.240
We belong in entertainment.

1032
00:49:16.240 --> 00:49:18.000
We belong in politics.

1033
00:49:18.000 --> 00:49:19.800
We belong in these discussions.

1034
00:49:19.800 --> 00:49:22.920
And the church has said for many years, oh, no, that's, that's dirty.

1035
00:49:22.920 --> 00:49:25.040
We church doesn't do politics.

1036
00:49:25.040 --> 00:49:29.040
And I love what Pastor McCoy said, you know, he said, the church is dirty too.

1037
00:49:29.040 --> 00:49:30.040
What's your point?

1038
00:49:30.040 --> 00:49:31.040
Right?

1039
00:49:31.040 --> 00:49:33.240
Why have we given up our spot in the public square?

1040
00:49:33.240 --> 00:49:35.200
We gave it up a long time ago.

1041
00:49:35.200 --> 00:49:38.880
And now we're having a heck of a hard time getting it back again because we removed our

1042
00:49:38.880 --> 00:49:41.080
self from the public discourse, right?

1043
00:49:41.080 --> 00:49:43.680
We stepped away from the church and what are the two things the church said you don't

1044
00:49:43.680 --> 00:49:47.160
ever talk about at Thanksgiving dinner, religion and politics, except for Thanksgiving

1045
00:49:47.160 --> 00:49:49.200
is all about religion and politics.

1046
00:49:49.200 --> 00:49:51.160
That's why the holiday exists.

1047
00:49:51.160 --> 00:49:55.560
And we're not allowed to talk about these things and we've injured ourselves in the process.

1048
00:49:55.560 --> 00:49:56.960
Which is awesome, by the way.

1049
00:49:56.960 --> 00:50:00.280
Thanksgiving is the only true American holiday.

1050
00:50:00.280 --> 00:50:01.280
It is.

1051
00:50:01.280 --> 00:50:04.040
We have one holy day in America.

1052
00:50:04.040 --> 00:50:05.720
Israel's got a bunch.

1053
00:50:05.720 --> 00:50:06.720
America has one.

1054
00:50:06.720 --> 00:50:07.720
It's Thanksgiving.

1055
00:50:07.720 --> 00:50:08.720
Yeah.

1056
00:50:08.720 --> 00:50:12.720
The cohesion, the coming together of faith and politics.

1057
00:50:12.720 --> 00:50:15.960
So many churches, so many pastors.

1058
00:50:15.960 --> 00:50:19.760
If they bothered to respond to my request at all, and all I was saying was, hey, would

1059
00:50:19.760 --> 00:50:22.040
you let me put a table out in the foyer?

1060
00:50:22.040 --> 00:50:24.760
Would you introduce me to your Wednesday morning women's Bible study?

1061
00:50:24.760 --> 00:50:26.680
Would you let me come after church?

1062
00:50:26.680 --> 00:50:31.560
And more often, I would say 98% of the ones who actually got back to me said, our church

1063
00:50:31.560 --> 00:50:33.560
does not engage in politics.

1064
00:50:33.560 --> 00:50:37.880
And I started saying, I started saying, yeah, I said, I'm like, I said, you actually are.

1065
00:50:37.880 --> 00:50:41.680
You may think you're not doing politics, but trust me when I say politics is doing you.

1066
00:50:41.680 --> 00:50:45.360
And this is going to continue to happen until you find your courage again and begin to

1067
00:50:45.360 --> 00:50:48.880
discover that the Bible has a lot to say about what happens politically.

1068
00:50:48.880 --> 00:50:52.080
We know that the nation who's God is the Lord is a nation who's blessed.

1069
00:50:52.080 --> 00:50:56.800
But when we are under wicked leadership, the people grown, our nation is groaning under

1070
00:50:56.800 --> 00:50:58.520
wicked leadership right now.

1071
00:50:58.520 --> 00:51:02.720
And it's infected every part of our country from the federal government all down, right

1072
00:51:02.720 --> 00:51:04.560
down to the local municipalities.

1073
00:51:04.560 --> 00:51:07.800
And I honestly think, and I don't know what you think is you and I have never talked

1074
00:51:07.800 --> 00:51:11.960
about this, I'm starting to go, I think that the local governments are actually even more

1075
00:51:11.960 --> 00:51:13.760
important than the federal government.

1076
00:51:13.760 --> 00:51:15.560
They're determined in our quality of life.

1077
00:51:15.560 --> 00:51:17.200
They're determining what's happening in our schools.

1078
00:51:17.200 --> 00:51:20.680
They're determined whether or not you can wear a mask on the bus, the local municipalities

1079
00:51:20.680 --> 00:51:21.680
matter.

1080
00:51:21.680 --> 00:51:22.680
And we've disengaged.

1081
00:51:22.680 --> 00:51:29.800
I have to tell you, you just, you just announced that side of the microphone, what we have

1082
00:51:29.800 --> 00:51:34.840
known here for a while and it's this, you got to remember, although your state's much

1083
00:51:34.840 --> 00:51:42.760
like our state, we learned this lesson in, in 2020.

1084
00:51:43.760 --> 00:51:46.080
No, that's not true, sorry.

1085
00:51:46.080 --> 00:51:53.320
We learned this lesson in 2016 and 2016, there was a presidential election and everybody

1086
00:51:53.320 --> 00:52:05.560
was cheering except California went darker, people don't realize that.

1087
00:52:05.560 --> 00:52:08.880
But then as we began, we're extremely engaged in this.

1088
00:52:08.880 --> 00:52:17.720
We have been since 1997, we have what is called realimpact.us, it's incredibly powerful.

1089
00:52:17.720 --> 00:52:26.360
We started looking and when we looked at, so to speak, the global California politic,

1090
00:52:26.360 --> 00:52:28.440
it was very discouraging.

1091
00:52:28.440 --> 00:52:37.760
Then we started looking at, wait a minute, this conservative Republican won this assemblyman

1092
00:52:37.760 --> 00:52:47.080
post, this woman won her assembly post, she goes to a church so and so over down there.

1093
00:52:47.080 --> 00:52:56.840
And then wait, this, this mayor is a believer and got elected.

1094
00:52:56.840 --> 00:53:04.080
We may have lost, so to speak, right, Sacramento, but we saw major victories and we were radically

1095
00:53:04.080 --> 00:53:10.960
encouraged and what we learned from that is now a, a mode of thinking for us.

1096
00:53:10.960 --> 00:53:13.040
All of it is local to this point.

1097
00:53:13.040 --> 00:53:18.320
We found it out so powerfully that, watch this, I don't mean to, if I step on some toes,

1098
00:53:18.320 --> 00:53:26.440
it's not intentionally, it's not mean, but COVID proved it.

1099
00:53:26.440 --> 00:53:30.480
This is the tale of two churches.

1100
00:53:30.480 --> 00:53:33.560
One is in LA County.

1101
00:53:33.560 --> 00:53:39.160
One is in San Bernardino County, LA County, one is the one, one of the, if not the most

1102
00:53:39.160 --> 00:53:47.880
liberal county, San Bernardino County is considered the most conservative county.

1103
00:53:47.880 --> 00:53:58.880
These two churches for decades, one pastor said never get involved in politics.

1104
00:53:58.880 --> 00:54:02.040
You don't have to vote because God's sovereign.

1105
00:54:02.040 --> 00:54:06.000
You don't have to get involved because that's the kingdom of this world.

1106
00:54:06.000 --> 00:54:13.320
It is dirty, stay out of it, it's temporal, it's carnal, nothing good comes of it.

1107
00:54:13.320 --> 00:54:15.840
Stay out of it people.

1108
00:54:15.840 --> 00:54:22.800
Another pastor said, even if we lose everything that we fight for, we have to publicly be on

1109
00:54:22.800 --> 00:54:29.440
record to fight for what's right, you said it earlier, because there's no place where

1110
00:54:29.440 --> 00:54:32.080
the church ought not to be.

1111
00:54:32.080 --> 00:54:33.880
Jesus said, let your light so shine.

1112
00:54:33.880 --> 00:54:41.880
So even if all is lost, at least you lost this short term battle, but on the day of judgment

1113
00:54:41.880 --> 00:54:44.400
you get awarded.

1114
00:54:44.400 --> 00:54:48.200
And these pastors had two, they both love God, they both teach the Bible, they have two

1115
00:54:48.200 --> 00:54:53.840
steps, two come, I absolutely different approaches to civic engagement.

1116
00:54:53.840 --> 00:55:03.440
When COVID hit, that county where that pastor said don't engage, that county pounced on

1117
00:55:03.440 --> 00:55:07.680
that church and almost tore it to pieces.

1118
00:55:07.680 --> 00:55:08.680
Wow.

1119
00:55:08.680 --> 00:55:10.720
Watch this.

1120
00:55:10.720 --> 00:55:17.760
The pastor was approached by a legal team and said, you need to sue, watch.

1121
00:55:17.760 --> 00:55:19.440
I know where you're going now.

1122
00:55:19.440 --> 00:55:20.440
You need to sue.

1123
00:55:20.440 --> 00:55:21.440
Great.

1124
00:55:21.440 --> 00:55:27.800
All right, let's sue.

1125
00:55:27.800 --> 00:55:34.240
When the other pastor heard about that, was puzzled because you don't get involved in

1126
00:55:34.240 --> 00:55:42.200
that world, oh I see, you do get involved in that world.

1127
00:55:42.200 --> 00:55:46.000
And that bad world comes and attacks your flock.

1128
00:55:46.000 --> 00:55:52.560
You employ the tactics of the world, which I'm not knocking, I'm not, I'm missing bad.

1129
00:55:52.560 --> 00:55:55.560
God gave us the laws for righteousness.

1130
00:55:55.560 --> 00:55:56.560
That's right.

1131
00:55:56.560 --> 00:55:59.360
So I found it a profound contradiction.

1132
00:55:59.360 --> 00:56:00.800
Stay out of it, stay out of it, stay out of it.

1133
00:56:00.800 --> 00:56:01.800
Oh no, what?

1134
00:56:01.800 --> 00:56:03.040
They, they're soon as for millions of bucks.

1135
00:56:03.040 --> 00:56:04.040
Get into it.

1136
00:56:04.040 --> 00:56:05.040
Get into it.

1137
00:56:05.040 --> 00:56:06.040
Get into it.

1138
00:56:06.040 --> 00:56:07.040
Get into it.

1139
00:56:07.040 --> 00:56:08.040
Right.

1140
00:56:08.040 --> 00:56:09.040
Yeah.

1141
00:56:09.040 --> 00:56:13.160
For over 30 years said, hi, what's your name?

1142
00:56:13.160 --> 00:56:14.160
I'm so-and-so.

1143
00:56:14.160 --> 00:56:15.160
I'm the mayor.

1144
00:56:15.160 --> 00:56:16.160
How can we pray for you?

1145
00:56:16.160 --> 00:56:17.160
Do you have any kids?

1146
00:56:17.160 --> 00:56:18.160
Can we have their names?

1147
00:56:18.160 --> 00:56:19.160
City council?

1148
00:56:19.160 --> 00:56:20.160
What are their names?

1149
00:56:20.160 --> 00:56:24.000
By the way, we're available for things that you don't want to do.

1150
00:56:24.000 --> 00:56:30.400
We'll, we'll go to doors and say that your husband just perished in a car crash.

1151
00:56:30.400 --> 00:56:31.400
We'll offer chaplains.

1152
00:56:31.400 --> 00:56:32.400
You will?

1153
00:56:32.400 --> 00:56:33.400
Yes.

1154
00:56:33.400 --> 00:56:38.760
Can you come and do invocations at county meetings and city meetings?

1155
00:56:38.760 --> 00:56:40.360
Yes.

1156
00:56:40.360 --> 00:56:51.160
When the, when the sheriff's daughter was kidnapped, he didn't call, he didn't call LA Times.

1157
00:56:51.160 --> 00:56:55.000
He called me.

1158
00:56:55.000 --> 00:57:03.240
So in COVID hit, our county said, if you get any flak from Newsom, send it straight

1159
00:57:03.240 --> 00:57:04.240
to us.

1160
00:57:04.240 --> 00:57:05.920
Because you have relationship.

1161
00:57:05.920 --> 00:57:06.920
Relationship.

1162
00:57:06.920 --> 00:57:07.920
Come on.

1163
00:57:07.920 --> 00:57:08.920
Relationship.

1164
00:57:08.920 --> 00:57:09.920
Right.

1165
00:57:09.920 --> 00:57:19.520
And in the end, both of those ministries wound up, honestly proving that you can't parse

1166
00:57:19.520 --> 00:57:22.600
out and separate where Christ is and isn't.

1167
00:57:22.600 --> 00:57:23.600
That's right.

1168
00:57:23.600 --> 00:57:27.880
The difference is now, if you want to change the culture around you for righteousness

1169
00:57:28.880 --> 00:57:35.040
and you want to put strip clubs out of business and get pot dispensaries either shut down

1170
00:57:35.040 --> 00:57:39.800
or out of the, out away, run for city council.

1171
00:57:39.800 --> 00:57:40.800
It's true.

1172
00:57:40.800 --> 00:57:41.800
School board.

1173
00:57:41.800 --> 00:57:42.800
People may be running for school boards.

1174
00:57:42.800 --> 00:57:43.800
School boards to the business.

1175
00:57:43.800 --> 00:57:46.400
You, you determine what the, what the curriculum is in your school.

1176
00:57:46.400 --> 00:57:50.640
It's the school board that doesn't, so the NEA can send it down to the school, but

1177
00:57:50.640 --> 00:57:53.520
the school board decides whether or not the school implemented.

1178
00:57:53.520 --> 00:57:56.320
And so if you had Christians that were running for school board and pastors that were

1179
00:57:56.320 --> 00:58:00.240
promoting different people who's, and let them come up on your platform for good to

1180
00:58:00.240 --> 00:58:02.240
say, let them come up and say, this is my name.

1181
00:58:02.240 --> 00:58:03.600
This is what I want to do.

1182
00:58:03.600 --> 00:58:07.960
Give them the opportunity to speak the truth to the congregation.

1183
00:58:07.960 --> 00:58:17.040
Pastor, listen to this, pastor, or if you know a pastor, have them watch this part.

1184
00:58:17.040 --> 00:58:22.760
Did you know pastor, it's legal for you, first of all, to speak your heart full blown

1185
00:58:22.840 --> 00:58:28.600
on any legislation or propositions in your state, any bills?

1186
00:58:28.600 --> 00:58:34.800
Did you know that you legally can yell and scream and inform your church about any legislation

1187
00:58:34.800 --> 00:58:42.600
that's being considered or is going on in your state or in your city, completely legal.

1188
00:58:42.600 --> 00:58:48.840
According to IRS laws based upon the Johnson Amendment, Lyndon Johnson, crazy god hater,

1189
00:58:48.840 --> 00:58:52.640
weirdo, became president, but at the time he was a senator, hated,

1190
00:58:52.640 --> 00:58:54.600
Christian's.

1191
00:58:54.600 --> 00:58:58.080
And he got passed when he was elected a senator, he got passed the Johnson Amendment,

1192
00:58:58.080 --> 00:59:01.960
which he tried to muzzle the Christian community from speaking into politics.

1193
00:59:01.960 --> 00:59:08.760
So number one, the source of us not speaking into the culture is from a guy who didn't

1194
00:59:08.760 --> 00:59:11.240
want you to speak out of the culture.

1195
00:59:11.240 --> 00:59:18.840
So what we know about the 501 C3, I love what Heidi said about the C standing for coward,

1196
00:59:18.840 --> 00:59:20.880
your church doesn't need it.

1197
00:59:20.920 --> 00:59:27.960
I would submit to you that you who claim are not involved in politics are actually

1198
00:59:27.960 --> 00:59:33.800
involved in politics more than the rest of us, because you are so obeying that 11th

1199
00:59:33.800 --> 00:59:38.640
commandment out of total fear, even your mode of sad.

1200
00:59:38.640 --> 00:59:44.400
But here's the thing, every year you can do what we do.

1201
00:59:44.400 --> 00:59:49.120
And that is we bring vetted, we vet those running for office.

1202
00:59:49.120 --> 00:59:53.440
We have the vetting machine, I don't know, I know me in a machine, a human being,

1203
00:59:53.440 --> 01:00:00.200
a human being who vet candidates, and you guess what, sometimes we have two candidates

1204
01:00:00.200 --> 01:00:04.800
that are running for the same office and neither one of them are Christians.

1205
01:00:04.800 --> 01:00:05.800
And we vet them.

1206
01:00:05.800 --> 01:00:09.240
You know who do with them?

1207
01:00:09.240 --> 01:00:15.080
We find out that one of them is pro life.

1208
01:00:15.080 --> 01:00:16.120
It matters.

1209
01:00:16.120 --> 01:00:22.360
And so we invite, we invite that candidate to church, they always come, because they're

1210
01:00:22.360 --> 01:00:23.360
running for office.

1211
01:00:23.360 --> 01:00:27.520
Hello, even Hillary Clinton campaigned in churches.

1212
01:00:27.520 --> 01:00:35.720
And we have them come up and we simply pray for them, their family.

1213
01:00:35.720 --> 01:00:45.720
And we ask God to heal our nation, to bring us godly leaders, or to bring us leaders who

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01:00:45.720 --> 01:00:52.400
in some way shape or form, hold to a Judeo-Christian worldview value.

1215
01:00:52.400 --> 01:00:59.200
Just so happens I'm praying for this guy Joe, who's pro life, because your argument is,

1216
01:00:59.200 --> 01:01:06.600
oh, everybody's corrupt, yes, so are you, here's the thing, somebody's running for office

1217
01:01:06.600 --> 01:01:12.000
who holds something close to a worldview that honors God.

1218
01:01:12.000 --> 01:01:15.320
And you encourage your flock to vote for them.

1219
01:01:15.320 --> 01:01:16.320
You can do that.

1220
01:01:16.320 --> 01:01:17.320
So what do we get sued?

1221
01:01:17.320 --> 01:01:23.980
Ah, come on, I've been trying to get sued for 33 years, honestly, we actually send our

1222
01:01:23.980 --> 01:01:25.980
sermons to the IRS.

1223
01:01:25.980 --> 01:01:26.980
Why?

1224
01:01:26.980 --> 01:01:31.440
We're trying to challenge the Johnson Amendment with David Barton and ADF, we're trying

1225
01:01:31.440 --> 01:01:35.920
to get sued so that you don't ever have to worry about this again, but they won't take

1226
01:01:35.920 --> 01:01:36.920
us up on it.

1227
01:01:36.920 --> 01:01:37.920
Does he know they'll lose?

1228
01:01:37.920 --> 01:01:42.760
Yes, you guys, we had Mike Pompeo here, Ted Cruz during the campaign was going to fly

1229
01:01:42.760 --> 01:01:48.360
in on the lawn and come and speak, but something happened, we were going to, that's normal,

1230
01:01:48.360 --> 01:01:49.360
you're going to get sued.

1231
01:01:49.360 --> 01:01:50.360
Well, find your courage.

1232
01:01:50.360 --> 01:01:51.360
Bring it.

1233
01:01:51.360 --> 01:01:54.280
So you think you're going to get sued, find your courage, how about that, how about

1234
01:01:54.280 --> 01:01:58.480
be strong and courageous, how about we're not to be afraid of men, how about God didn't

1235
01:01:58.480 --> 01:02:01.800
give us a spirit of fear, but of power, love and a sound mining, yet for generations

1236
01:02:01.800 --> 01:02:04.680
we're watching our churches ruled by the spirit of fear.

1237
01:02:04.680 --> 01:02:08.600
We see this in politics, we saw it in COVID, we see it over and over again, and we wonder

1238
01:02:08.600 --> 01:02:11.760
why the blessing of God is not on this nation.

1239
01:02:11.760 --> 01:02:15.520
And I think, you know, the call to the pastors right now, it's never been more important

1240
01:02:15.520 --> 01:02:16.520
than it is right now.

1241
01:02:16.520 --> 01:02:19.920
We need men of courage behind our pulpits.

1242
01:02:19.920 --> 01:02:23.800
I have a question for you, I mean, this isn't my podcast, I have one, this isn't mine.

1243
01:02:23.800 --> 01:02:29.080
How important is the issue of life when we are choosing a candidate?

1244
01:02:29.080 --> 01:02:33.440
I mean, I know the answer, I'd love to hear your thoughts on it, how important is the

1245
01:02:33.440 --> 01:02:34.440
issue of life?

1246
01:02:34.440 --> 01:02:38.160
Well, because I cannot separate sacred from secular.

1247
01:02:38.160 --> 01:02:39.160
That's right.

1248
01:02:39.160 --> 01:02:48.960
Everything to me is sacred, even the secular, that if we are going to have our land healed,

1249
01:02:48.960 --> 01:02:58.320
and that's a big if, personally, I'm working on, I need more faith in this area.

1250
01:02:58.320 --> 01:03:05.920
If America has ever crossed a Rubicon, we've crossed it, it's in the area of human sacrifice.

1251
01:03:05.920 --> 01:03:11.600
Some said a report along this genre, this week, the state of California ruled human trafficking

1252
01:03:11.600 --> 01:03:12.600
to be protected.

1253
01:03:12.600 --> 01:03:13.600
Unbelievable.

1254
01:03:13.600 --> 01:03:14.600
It's unbelievable.

1255
01:03:14.600 --> 01:03:15.600
Yeah.

1256
01:03:15.600 --> 01:03:16.600
And heaven weeps.

1257
01:03:16.600 --> 01:03:25.160
Sacramento rule that human trafficking can be protected, they can keep doing it.

1258
01:03:25.160 --> 01:03:28.360
Sanctity of life is the ultimate issue to God.

1259
01:03:28.360 --> 01:03:33.080
If China repented of its abortions, God would bless China.

1260
01:03:33.080 --> 01:03:38.320
If Russia, if Vladimir Putin fell on this face and repented before God, because in Russia,

1261
01:03:38.320 --> 01:03:43.200
abortion is a type of, it's just a medical thing.

1262
01:03:43.200 --> 01:03:44.880
It's like getting your teeth cleaned, abortion.

1263
01:03:44.880 --> 01:03:46.120
Well, I didn't know that.

1264
01:03:46.120 --> 01:03:47.120
Yes.

1265
01:03:47.120 --> 01:03:48.120
Yes.

1266
01:03:48.120 --> 01:03:49.120
Wow.

1267
01:03:49.120 --> 01:03:50.400
It is the ultimate importance.

1268
01:03:50.400 --> 01:03:56.880
I, I'm going to say this publicly, I think, for the first time.

1269
01:03:56.880 --> 01:04:06.920
Unless God's people repents of allowing abortion, America is literally done.

1270
01:04:06.920 --> 01:04:13.520
I believe I can argue that America is done, America is over.

1271
01:04:13.520 --> 01:04:14.520
It's done.

1272
01:04:14.520 --> 01:04:19.960
Our military is absolutely pathetic, though I love them.

1273
01:04:19.960 --> 01:04:24.200
The leadership has lost its mind.

1274
01:04:24.200 --> 01:04:32.440
Our government, the people who are in law enforcement, let's talk FBI, let's not.

1275
01:04:32.440 --> 01:04:33.440
That's not.

1276
01:04:33.440 --> 01:04:34.440
Let's talk COJ.

1277
01:04:34.440 --> 01:04:35.440
DOJ.

1278
01:04:35.440 --> 01:04:36.440
Yeah.

1279
01:04:36.440 --> 01:04:37.440
Yeah.

1280
01:04:37.440 --> 01:04:38.440
Let's not.

1281
01:04:38.440 --> 01:04:39.440
Yeah.

1282
01:04:39.440 --> 01:04:41.880
I believe that God has left the building.

1283
01:04:41.880 --> 01:04:45.440
I do not believe God is, his hand is on America anymore.

1284
01:04:45.440 --> 01:04:48.240
I believe it's been gone for some time.

1285
01:04:48.240 --> 01:04:50.160
And you say, Jack, that's a terrible thing to do.

1286
01:04:50.160 --> 01:04:51.640
How dare you say that as a pastor?

1287
01:04:51.640 --> 01:04:52.640
Excuse me.

1288
01:04:52.640 --> 01:04:55.600
I was supposed to blow the trumpet of warning.

1289
01:04:55.600 --> 01:04:59.600
America's churches and pastors are not repenting.

1290
01:04:59.600 --> 01:05:01.680
We're like the Germans.

1291
01:05:01.680 --> 01:05:08.040
We're singing louder while the train goes down the track, carrying juice to the ovens.

1292
01:05:08.040 --> 01:05:09.240
And we're not speaking up.

1293
01:05:09.240 --> 01:05:12.160
We're letting Hitler do whatever he wants.

1294
01:05:12.160 --> 01:05:16.960
And I, and to prove that I'm hitting on a point, there's people, veins popping out

1295
01:05:16.960 --> 01:05:20.400
of their neck right now and they want to fight about this because, frankly, the Holy

1296
01:05:20.680 --> 01:05:24.400
Spirit just convicted them of their apathy.

1297
01:05:24.400 --> 01:05:29.080
Pastors hate me because I believe it's salt getting splashed in their eyes and they

1298
01:05:29.080 --> 01:05:31.040
hate it.

1299
01:05:31.040 --> 01:05:34.760
The issue is life.

1300
01:05:34.760 --> 01:05:36.280
We don't have to talk about taxes.

1301
01:05:36.280 --> 01:05:40.040
We don't have to talk about, you know, going green.

1302
01:05:40.040 --> 01:05:43.920
We don't have to talk about cashless society or wearing a mask.

1303
01:05:43.920 --> 01:05:48.280
The number one issue to God is stop killing my babies.

1304
01:05:48.280 --> 01:05:51.960
If you stop killing my babies, I'll begin to heal your leg.

1305
01:05:51.960 --> 01:05:53.440
I may listen to you.

1306
01:05:53.440 --> 01:05:55.040
And I'm, and here's the proof.

1307
01:05:55.040 --> 01:05:59.480
The proof is the book of Deuteronomy, chapter 28.

1308
01:05:59.480 --> 01:06:01.800
Read Deuteronomy 28.

1309
01:06:01.800 --> 01:06:04.760
It sounds like early America.

1310
01:06:04.760 --> 01:06:09.440
He says, if you do these things, I will bless your crops.

1311
01:06:09.440 --> 01:06:10.720
You'll feed the world.

1312
01:06:10.720 --> 01:06:12.640
You won't have to worry about anybody invading you.

1313
01:06:12.640 --> 01:06:14.680
I'll take care of your enemy.

1314
01:06:14.680 --> 01:06:19.800
Your wives, your wives will become pregnant and they were bare healthy children.

1315
01:06:19.800 --> 01:06:23.040
You'll have lots of kids.

1316
01:06:23.040 --> 01:06:24.760
I'll put the fear of the enemy.

1317
01:06:24.760 --> 01:06:28.400
I'll put the fear of you into the enemy's hearts.

1318
01:06:28.400 --> 01:06:33.240
And you will know, you'll never have to borrow.

1319
01:06:33.240 --> 01:06:38.080
But if you refuse me, you'll have to borrow money from everybody.

1320
01:06:38.080 --> 01:06:39.440
Your wives will miscarry.

1321
01:06:39.440 --> 01:06:41.000
Your population will decline.

1322
01:06:41.000 --> 01:06:42.240
Your crops will fail.

1323
01:06:42.240 --> 01:06:47.200
Your children will be taken captive by slave owners.

1324
01:06:47.200 --> 01:06:51.000
And the wife that you have, she will sleep with another man.

1325
01:06:51.000 --> 01:06:55.280
And the home that you built will be taken by the bank.

1326
01:06:55.280 --> 01:06:56.720
Deuteronomy 28.

1327
01:06:56.720 --> 01:06:57.960
Which one describes America?

1328
01:06:57.960 --> 01:06:59.960
Here we are.

1329
01:06:59.960 --> 01:07:01.960
God has left the nation.

1330
01:07:01.960 --> 01:07:10.480
The only way he'll come back is if pastors will speak up about life, stop hiding behind

1331
01:07:10.480 --> 01:07:14.800
the gospel, teach the full counsel of God, which means they have to address life.

1332
01:07:14.800 --> 01:07:15.800
Wow.

1333
01:07:15.800 --> 01:07:17.320
Heidi, quick, we have to wrap this up.

1334
01:07:17.320 --> 01:07:18.840
Give people your address.

1335
01:07:18.840 --> 01:07:21.200
I want them to find you.

1336
01:07:21.200 --> 01:07:22.720
Where do they need to go?

1337
01:07:22.720 --> 01:07:24.240
Where would say it?

1338
01:07:24.240 --> 01:07:26.280
Well, you can find me at HeidiSaintjohn.com.

1339
01:07:26.280 --> 01:07:27.960
I'm also here at the Real Life Network.

1340
01:07:27.960 --> 01:07:29.800
So they can find my podcast.

1341
01:07:29.800 --> 01:07:31.040
The podcast airs five days a week.

1342
01:07:31.040 --> 01:07:34.960
We're coming up on 21 million downloads right now at that show.

1343
01:07:34.960 --> 01:07:39.640
And I really have a passion to talk about the intersection of faith and culture.

1344
01:07:39.640 --> 01:07:40.920
That's what's interesting to me.

1345
01:07:40.920 --> 01:07:43.920
And I think that's where God's heart is right now is with children.

1346
01:07:43.920 --> 01:07:45.120
It's with the country.

1347
01:07:45.120 --> 01:07:46.120
And I am encouraged.

1348
01:07:46.120 --> 01:07:49.720
I mean, for as many of the things that we talk about that are discouraging, I mean,

1349
01:07:49.720 --> 01:07:50.720
people can find me anywhere.

1350
01:07:50.720 --> 01:07:51.720
Just Google my name.

1351
01:07:51.720 --> 01:07:52.720
Don't believe everything you read.

1352
01:07:52.720 --> 01:07:53.720
I ran for Congress.

1353
01:07:53.720 --> 01:07:54.720
It's ugly.

1354
01:07:54.720 --> 01:07:58.760
But I want people to be encouraged like you do.

1355
01:07:58.760 --> 01:08:03.600
We want them to stay engaged, stay engaged, run for office, talk to your pastor.

1356
01:08:03.600 --> 01:08:08.000
If your pastor is not talking about politics from the pulpit, you need to talk to your

1357
01:08:08.000 --> 01:08:09.600
pastor and ask him why not.

1358
01:08:09.600 --> 01:08:10.600
Why not?

1359
01:08:10.600 --> 01:08:15.480
Politics determines policy and policy shapes the nation.

1360
01:08:15.480 --> 01:08:16.480
That's right.

1361
01:08:16.480 --> 01:08:19.240
The church needs to be at the front of this conversation and not at the back of this.

1362
01:08:19.240 --> 01:08:22.360
The church needs to be at the front of the conversation about transgenders and not at

1363
01:08:22.360 --> 01:08:25.720
the bottom with a net trying to catch all the children that are being injured.

1364
01:08:25.720 --> 01:08:29.520
Why can't we be at the top before they're injured instead of at the bottom after they're

1365
01:08:29.520 --> 01:08:30.520
injured?

1366
01:08:30.520 --> 01:08:35.400
And I hope and I pray and I know that you do too that there will be an awakening of God's

1367
01:08:35.400 --> 01:08:36.400
people.

1368
01:08:36.400 --> 01:08:37.800
Judgment really just began in the House of God.

1369
01:08:37.800 --> 01:08:39.040
It starts with God's people.

1370
01:08:39.040 --> 01:08:42.840
Are we going to be the men and women of courage that God calls us to be or will we be ruled

1371
01:08:42.840 --> 01:08:44.080
by the spirit of fear?

1372
01:08:44.080 --> 01:08:46.080
The next several years are going to tell the difference.

1373
01:08:46.080 --> 01:08:47.080
Yeah.

1374
01:08:47.080 --> 01:08:48.080
Absolutely.

1375
01:08:48.080 --> 01:08:49.600
It's interesting to wrap in this book.

1376
01:08:49.600 --> 01:08:57.560
A Jeremiah chapter 29 tells us that we are demanded, commanded by God to seek the welfare

1377
01:08:57.560 --> 01:09:02.920
of the city where I have planted you for your good and for the city's power.

1378
01:09:02.920 --> 01:09:03.920
Powerful.

1379
01:09:03.920 --> 01:09:04.920
How do you escape that?

1380
01:09:04.920 --> 01:09:05.920
You cannot.

1381
01:09:05.920 --> 01:09:09.240
I said last night, you know, in the, is it the last chapter of Revelation?

1382
01:09:09.240 --> 01:09:10.240
Yes.

1383
01:09:10.240 --> 01:09:13.520
In the very first thing of the list of things that God said, he's a hero.

1384
01:09:13.520 --> 01:09:14.520
That's right.

1385
01:09:14.520 --> 01:09:15.680
Cowardist at the top of the list.

1386
01:09:15.680 --> 01:09:21.240
The first person on the list in the book of Revelation that inherits hell is a coward.

1387
01:09:21.240 --> 01:09:22.240
That's right.

1388
01:09:22.240 --> 01:09:23.240
Wow.

1389
01:09:23.240 --> 01:09:24.240
That's right.

1390
01:09:24.240 --> 01:09:25.240
It's powerful.

1391
01:09:25.240 --> 01:09:26.240
Wow.

1392
01:09:26.240 --> 01:09:27.240
It's powerful.

1393
01:09:27.240 --> 01:09:29.240
You leave us right now and you had up the road to go to Prager.

1394
01:09:29.240 --> 01:09:30.240
Yeah.

1395
01:09:30.240 --> 01:09:33.760
I'm going to be doing a series of videos for them how not to be a leftist, how not to

1396
01:09:33.760 --> 01:09:35.240
raise a leftist actually.

1397
01:09:35.240 --> 01:09:36.240
I'll be doing that.

1398
01:09:36.240 --> 01:09:37.920
And then I'll be headed over to Chia.

1399
01:09:37.920 --> 01:09:42.480
So that's another home there is an organization that needs to get a shout out.

1400
01:09:42.480 --> 01:09:46.520
So the California Home Educators Association, been working here in the state of California

1401
01:09:46.520 --> 01:09:51.720
to secure homeschool freedom is for generations and they are doing incredible work.

1402
01:09:51.720 --> 01:09:54.960
And if you're interested in homeschooling and you're in California, you need to be a

1403
01:09:54.960 --> 01:09:55.960
member of Chia.

1404
01:09:55.960 --> 01:09:56.960
That's right.

1405
01:09:56.960 --> 01:09:57.960
So important.

1406
01:09:57.960 --> 01:10:01.840
I think Chia who works hand in hand really with the homeschool legal defense association.

1407
01:10:01.840 --> 01:10:06.680
And these people are the reason that you still have homeschool liberty here in California.

1408
01:10:06.680 --> 01:10:08.960
And so membership is really important there.

1409
01:10:08.960 --> 01:10:11.720
I think we take our freedoms for granted.

1410
01:10:11.720 --> 01:10:14.800
And if we've learned anything in COVID, it's that we shouldn't take those freedoms for

1411
01:10:14.800 --> 01:10:15.800
granted.

1412
01:10:15.800 --> 01:10:17.000
Chia is at the front of this thing.

1413
01:10:17.000 --> 01:10:21.440
So I'm the opening keynote there this Friday morning and then I'll be the closer on Saturday

1414
01:10:21.440 --> 01:10:22.440
night.

1415
01:10:22.440 --> 01:10:23.440
Wow.

1416
01:10:23.440 --> 01:10:24.440
And yeah.

1417
01:10:24.440 --> 01:10:26.040
And so just through, I love the state of California.

1418
01:10:26.040 --> 01:10:27.440
God's doing good things here.

1419
01:10:27.440 --> 01:10:28.640
There are good people here.

1420
01:10:28.640 --> 01:10:32.200
And I hear it, you know, I'm sure you do too, because we live on the West Coast, you

1421
01:10:32.200 --> 01:10:34.920
know, I wish California and Oregon and Washington to drop off into the ocean.

1422
01:10:34.920 --> 01:10:37.160
I'm like, no, God loves the people here.

1423
01:10:37.160 --> 01:10:38.480
They're good people here.

1424
01:10:38.480 --> 01:10:39.880
And the light shines bright here.

1425
01:10:39.880 --> 01:10:44.120
Our friend Frank Turg pointed something out to me that just stumped me and made me laugh

1426
01:10:44.120 --> 01:10:46.720
and then cry all at once.

1427
01:10:46.720 --> 01:10:51.080
Frank Turg said, do you know what state in the United States has the most registered Republicans?

1428
01:10:51.080 --> 01:10:52.920
Could be California.

1429
01:10:52.920 --> 01:10:53.920
It's California.

1430
01:10:53.920 --> 01:10:54.920
Yeah.

1431
01:10:54.920 --> 01:10:55.920
Why didn't that surprise me?

1432
01:10:55.920 --> 01:11:00.400
The problem is there's more registered Democrats in the state of California than Republicans.

1433
01:11:00.400 --> 01:11:02.000
There's more conservative people.

1434
01:11:02.000 --> 01:11:03.600
If a Republican is going to be conservative.

1435
01:11:03.600 --> 01:11:07.160
And if we would just get up and do it, get up and get involved.

1436
01:11:07.160 --> 01:11:08.160
Yeah, yeah.

1437
01:11:08.160 --> 01:11:09.160
Absolutely.

1438
01:11:09.160 --> 01:11:10.160
Do the Bible.

1439
01:11:10.160 --> 01:11:11.160
Stop talking about it.

1440
01:11:11.160 --> 01:11:12.160
Yeah.

1441
01:11:12.160 --> 01:11:13.160
Come on.

1442
01:11:13.160 --> 01:11:14.160
Do it.

1443
01:11:14.160 --> 01:11:15.160
So you guys listen, thank you.

1444
01:11:15.160 --> 01:11:16.160
This has been an amazing time.

1445
01:11:16.160 --> 01:11:17.880
Heidi is a hero of ours.

1446
01:11:17.880 --> 01:11:19.040
We love her and her family.

1447
01:11:19.040 --> 01:11:21.920
Her husband, Jay, incredible.

1448
01:11:21.920 --> 01:11:29.040
But excuses evaporate when you hear or think about Heidi St. John because she has not one.

1449
01:11:29.040 --> 01:11:30.120
She has not five.

1450
01:11:30.120 --> 01:11:31.520
She has seven kids.

1451
01:11:31.520 --> 01:11:34.280
If that's not enough, ran for Congress.

1452
01:11:34.280 --> 01:11:36.320
If that's not enough, she's an author.

1453
01:11:36.320 --> 01:11:37.640
You have your eighth or ninth eighth?

1454
01:11:37.640 --> 01:11:38.640
I think I don't know.

1455
01:11:38.640 --> 01:11:39.640
I lost count.

1456
01:11:39.640 --> 01:11:40.640
Eighth or ninth book coming out.

1457
01:11:40.640 --> 01:11:41.640
Tindale.

1458
01:11:41.640 --> 01:11:42.640
Look for it.

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Just the titles of her books alone.

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Sell.

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Just the title.

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Sells.

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You're going to want to read.

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You're going to get on her podcast.

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Subscribe.

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Get involved.

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Come on in.

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Listen.

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We're praying that way down here in the SoCal and way up there in Washington state and all

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the distance in between.

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God winds up capturing Washington, Oregon, and California.

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And there's a spiritual revival among the church that changes the culture.

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And it pushes the mess, the garbage, all the way to the East Coast and into the Atlantic.

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God can do it if we're willing.

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So listen, as always, it's time for you and I to live out our faith.

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It's time for real life.

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God bless you guys for being with us today.

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