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I've been marketing for 13 years. I built and sold nine companies. I sold my last

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company for $46.2 million to American Pacific Group. I've also written two

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books on marketing that have sold over a million copies. Here's 13 years of

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marketing advice that will make you more money. Piece of advice number one, start

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with low prices or even gasp free. The reason that I say that is because if you

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start there then you can go up. It's very difficult to come down and in the

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beginning you want to get flow through the system and so it's totally fine to

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start it free and then start bumping up from there and so I'll give you three

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quick examples and I'll show you how to do this tactically. So when I started my

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first ever business it was a online personal training business. This is 13 plus

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years ago and when I started I didn't know anything and I was so afraid to charge

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people money to begin with and so but I did want them to pay something because I

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wanted them to be invested because otherwise people don't follow through with

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their workouts or their nutrition plans etc and so I said hey just donate to the

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charity of your choice whatever charity you want to in exchange I will then

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train you for 12 weeks and so people would donate I think is 500 or a thousand

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dollars is their choice to a charity of their selection and by doing that I

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actually got my first 13 or so customers just by making posts and

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DMing people that I knew and it didn't feel weird because I was like hey I'm

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doing this kind of nonprofit thing I want to help you out if you want to lose

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weight and you can feel good about it and it's a write-off and so we were like oh

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this is pretty cool but the thing is is like that was the first time I ever did

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it and then from there I said huh would you guys be willing to pay me now after

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we finished this 12 weeks and a lot of them were like sure I was like yeah I'm

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the charity now so after I did a good job they were willing to do that and

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refer me customers the next business that I did this with was gym watch when I

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actually started flying out to other gyms so I used to do turnarounds and I

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did that for two plus years why'd fly out to a gym set up all the pricing do

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the marketing all this stuff and I did it all for free and I did it that way

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because I didn't know how I could sell those gym owners and what I the deal

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that I made was I only make money if I make sales and I'll front the cash for

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the marketing so like they took zero risk on and I would do everything including

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pay for my hotel my flights my my food my rental car everything and but

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being able to do that it allowed me to get way more yeses quickly test out the

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system in 30 plus markets that I had which then eventually led me to license

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in that system to 5,000 plus locations and that was the company that I that I sold

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to APG the third time that I did this was when I started my software company

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Allen and so when I started the company I was like I need to get some case

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studies I need some testimonials I need some I need some stories to show

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successes right and so I think a lot of people in the beginning think this is

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only a beginner thing but even if you're a big business owner when you start out

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a new product or new division starting with free customers just makes a lot of

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sense and it's for four reasons one is that free customers become customers

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become paying after the period as long as you do a good job so it makes money in

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one way the second way makes you money is that they'll also refer your

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customers because you do a great job they'll just send you other people that

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can be contingent on why you do it for free for them the third is that they'll

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leave you testimonials and reviews so those reviews and those testimonials also

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you advertise and you can get more customers from them and then finally whenever

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you do stuff for free I do it in exchange for feedback I say hey tell me what I

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could do to make this better and again it's not saying like tell me all the

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ways I suck it's just saying tell me how I can make this better tell me how I

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could make it worth it for you to want to stay and continue to pay and ideally the

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easy test of knowing whether this works is that they actually stay and pay

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afterwards and so it's the easiest way to get going on any new product and I

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think so many people start trying to sell stuff too soon without enough proof

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and in the beginning you suck that's why it's a new product or new division and

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so I'd rather not ruin my reputation same giving away for free give the reason is

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I'm brand new at this thing or I'm trying this new thing out and that way I'll

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get a little bit of grace and then that way I can make the thing better in an

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iterative process much faster with way more people because I'm giving away for

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free or at cost and then once I get those massive success stories that they

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feel like they owe me because I've done a great job then I can market those

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and go at full price so here's how you actually do this tactically going from

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starting a low prices to moving all the way to where you want to be which is

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high prices with big premiums right and so what I'd say is after you have your

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first test case study batch so call it 10 or 20 people depending on the size of

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your product or your services after that every five I just go up by 20% and so

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let's say okay I started at zero and I have a marketing agency I might say okay

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the first the next five I'm gonna do for a thousand bucks right and then from

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there I might say okay the next five I'm gonna do for twelve hundred bucks the

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next five I'm gonna do for fifteen hundred bucks and so you just keep going

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up by 20% until the conversion rate times the price goes down so that way you

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can just calculate the total amount of money made off of X number of sales

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calls and by doing that you'll be able to see okay here's the sweet spot where I

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sell the most amount of units at the highest potential price so my company Jim

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Launch that is sold for forty six million dollars that company you know at its

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peak before I was selling it we were taking home over a million dollars a month

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in personal income but that's what a lot of people think happened the whole time

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but it wasn't like that the actual very first business that I started in

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fitness I actually gave away my services for free actually did it as a

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nonprofit for charities so that I could get clients in the door and test out

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whether my stuff actually worked and that I could deliver services and when you're

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having the conversation with those first few people whether you're doing it

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for free or you're gonna do it for a big discount you say hey I plan on going to

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this price point but I'm willing to do it for free in exchange for X which is

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usually a feedback feedback for me and a public testimony if you're comfortable

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doing it and by having those two things then one you guarantee that you get the

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feedback which is the need most but you also can get the testimony that you can

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leverage and then finally you can also tack on a referral if you want to again

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I'd say the testimony in the referral should be contingent on you doing a good

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job and you say hey if I do a good job would you be willing to do these two

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things if they say yes then you're good to go the fourth one which is do they

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actually want to buy at full price later which will be the real test of how good

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you were and I think the bottom line here is that when you start out you're not

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that good and even if your ego is like kind of convincing you that you are good

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which I think is silly just even imagine two years from now that you're gonna be

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much better than you are now well that guy is probably way more experienced so

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give that guy a running start by starting free now and then building momentum

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into it and I have this saying that I repeat all the time in my team which is

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create flow monetize flow then add friction and so it's like you have to run

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water through the machine you have to get flow into the system to see where

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it's going to break so that you know what real actually looks like rather than

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just trying to get rich on Excel the second is the framework that I use for

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scaling advertising or scaling marketing and any niche more better new when

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you're starting out more is almost always the answer and so I remember when I

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was thinking about getting into content I I paid someone who had made you know

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a lot more content had much bigger brand and I said hey what should I be doing

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I like what should I do to make my content better and he's like dude he's like

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you don't make your content better I said he's like you're just not making

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anything and so what he did is he pulled up his profile on LinkedIn and he pulled

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up my profile LinkedIn he was like I posted five times a day you haven't even

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posted and then he pulled up Instagram and he pulled up my Instagram and he's

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like I posted two times a day you posted once a week I was like man he's like okay

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let's pull up YouTube and then my YouTube and he just went platform by

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platform and he showed that he was doing 3x 5x 10x the volume that I was and he's

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like dude you just got to do more and that was just like bear like I felt

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embarrassed because I just paid all this money to have someone just look at me

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and just say do more but hopefully I can save you the money and just tell you

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you probably need to do more and the interesting thing about this is that I

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later on had like at the point now when we had maybe this is maybe a year

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god five-ish million subscribers called all platforms I had a friend of mine

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who's a billionaire who wanted to start getting into personal branding and he said hey man can

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you check out my Instagram and see what's you know going on and why we're not

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growing as fast as I want to and so I said well before I look at it I was like how

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many posts a week you making across all platforms he's like oh got that now he's

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like I'm posting one today and I was like dude I was like we post 50 plus times a

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day and he was like got it he just was like you don't need to say anymore I

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understand because he had had enough experience in other realms to know that like oh all of the

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things in volume that that that work in sales that work in customer success that work in product

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in terms of durations the same concepts apply to advertising and marketing like you just need to do

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a lot in order to figure out what works so that you can do better later now what's interesting

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about this is that this also applies on the paid side so I remember there was a car tractor

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car tractor agency that approached me they were doing about two million bucks a year and he was

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like hey man I think I've saturated Facebook and I was like and this is when it was Facebook

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not matter and I was like what do you mean he's like I just think I've saturated the car

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tractor niche and I was like this is a ten billion dollar year industry and you feel like you're

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two million dollar per your agency has saturated Facebook I was like how many I was like do you

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know of any of the car tractor agencies that exist he's like yeah there's loads it's like you

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know there's hundreds of them I was like okay so explain to me why every sale that is keeping all

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of them in business is somehow not sales that you should be making he's like got it it's like

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right you're spending 40 grand a month when in aggregate all the agencies that are selling to

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carpractors are probably spending four million a month and so all of the spend that those businesses

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are able to make in your market is your opportunity is if you can outcompete them you can provide

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better service you can have longer LTV means you can spend more to acquire the cash when they can

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and then you can eventually price them out of the marketplace because fundamentally paid ads

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is actually an auction for attention and so people bid against each other for ad space and so if you

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can outbid your competition you can have an ethical monopoly by literally bidding more than everyone

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else while still making money and that's the crazy thing and that's what fundamentally what you

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want to build in terms of the mouse trap of your business is how can I make more money from every

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customer that anyone else does so that I can spend more than anyone else can to acquire them and so

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I had a I had a portfolio company CEO who's a good marketer you know come up to me and he was like

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hey man I think really need to scale our ads and I was like I agree and I was like well how many

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how many pieces of creative are you putting out you know per week and he's like oh um why just

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report once a month I was like okay fine then how many either you're making per session he was like

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we do about 15 so we do about 15 new ads per month and I just kind of looked at him I was like

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dude when I was trying to go from your size to five times your size I was making 35 a week

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and like nowadays we make way more than that in terms of content and in terms of the ads that we

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do like I make ads for school and then I inform the ads across our portfolio and so the big

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saying that I have that's like plastered on the wall that actually applies to sales and marketing

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is volume negates luck like if you don't want to rely on luck and rely on one of those 10 ads or

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five ads that you make to be amazing you just make more ads and I can't tell you the amount of times

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that it just reset the bar and that's what I'm hoping to do with this video is like the amount of

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volume that the people who are ahead of you are doing is is not two x to three x more it's

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oftentimes a hundred x more right even that the 35 times four I think 140 pieces the guy was making

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15 there's nine x the volume of what he was doing right and some of you guys are making five ads

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a month or one ad a month and thinking that that's somehow going to be sufficient to get to your goals

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and nowadays and I'll explain later in this help my whole ad creation process but just the big

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headline is that in the very beginning you just need to do a lot more than you think you do the

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second is once you've done more then at what point do you start shifting to better and the way

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that you can figure that out is when the return on effort for better exceeds one incremental unit of

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more meaning if I've got one sales guy if I add a second sales guy then I think I have a high

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degree of certainty that I can probably double my sales by doing that but when you have 10 sales

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adding one more sales guys the same level of effort as adding going from one to two going from

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10 to 11 but it's only a 10% increase and so if I can increase the overall throughput of my entire

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team by 20% or 25% by tweaking some sharp rate stuff or doing a headline split test or or changing

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CTAs on my ads then those are things that would make me more money per unit of effort and so in

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the beginning you usually just need to blow as much volume through there as possible that's the

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create flow monetize flow than add friction the the optimization steps really only matter when

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you have flow going through and so you do more first and then once you're big enough better

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becomes a better return on effort but once you then go through the better steps then you usually

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have to go back to okay how do we do 10 times more than we are now how do we go from 10 sales

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guys to 100 sales guys and that's the thinking that you have to go through in order start scaling

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in terms of orders of magnitude and when you have so much volume you're able to iterate so much

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faster like even us recently we started making more content on YouTube and we already noticed as a

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team we're like oh this is awesome we're learning so much faster again with like we're literally

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putting out four or five videos a week instead of one video week and so we're learning about

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headlines and thumbnails and there's less pressure per video because we're like cool learn that

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let's move on to the next one and so it allows you to just iterate so much faster without

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getting your ego and your emotions you know tied into it here's how I do it is I ask the question

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what would stop me from 10x in the business right now and if the answer is nothing then we 10x

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the business now most times there is something that would break like what would break first and so

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as soon as we identify what is the first thing that would break if we 2x 5x 10x we then isolate that

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thing put all of our focus towards fixing it and then we do the increase in volume and that is how

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we continue to deconstrain until we go to the next bottleneck and then deconstrain that and then

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grow into the next bottleneck because we have a fundamental belief that all businesses will continue

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to grow until their point of constraint and then they will grow no further so you identify the

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constraint relieve the constraint and allow it to grow again growth occurs as an after effect of

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the inputs you put into the system now once you've done as much as you can more and you've done it

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as well as you can better when you can't do any more any better you start and try and something new

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and the thing that the reason that I have new last is because the cost of change of doing something

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new is guaranteed but the return on something new is not and so I like to say that is a big warning

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for the fact that the vast majority of entrepreneurs want to spend 80% of their time on doing new stuff

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when really they should spend 90% of their time doing more and better of what is already working for

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them the only time you do new stuff is when nothing is working so when you're starting as an entrepreneur

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everything's new and you keep trying and keep trying until something works once it works you have to

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unlearn the whole experimentation idea and then you have to go great I need you as much as I

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possibly can and do it as well as I possibly can and so it's a different mindset that you have to

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get into but that's how you start scaling now what point do you start doing something new well if

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you've already said okay I can't I can't do more for a very clear reason that there's a big cost

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like sometimes there's a huge incremental cost past a certain barrier you're like okay I think we

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really are you know let's say you're a local a local gym all right if you're a local gym and

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you're spending call it $10,000 a month on ads you're reaching every single person in your radius

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multiple times a week and so that's on one platform and so you're like okay in order for me to

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the crap out of the eyeballs here well that's when doing something new will yield a higher return

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you get a better return on effort and so that's where like okay maybe I'm going to start doing

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an outbound or I'll start doing the paid ads but just on another channel I'll start running

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display ads I'll start I'll start doing direct mail pieces I'll start radio ads like there's

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a number of things that you could do in terms of other channels but they would be new and so this is

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the thought process that I have when I approach that which is if you could double the sales of your

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company and it would take a year would you do it but you had to wait a year before they doubled

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most people would say yes if I said you had to invest call it half a year's profits in order to

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getting your business to double would you do it yes that probably be a really good return on

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return on investment if you put half a year's profits and you double the business you're getting

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a 200 percent return that's awesome right and so the thing is is that people start something new

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and they spend one month of ad spend and they say oh it didn't work I lost money wow like I'm

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going to stop but the reality is that it's going to take you three months six months sometimes 12

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months to get the that return to actually pay off and what I mark is progress not the dollar so

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it's like okay first are we getting clicks okay we're getting clicks okay are we getting

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opt-ins okay we're getting opt-ins are the opt-ins we're getting the right type of people that

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we're looking for okay yes or if they're not then we start tweaking the messaging we start

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tweaking the funnel until we get the right people okay now we have the right people who are

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opting in great now can we get them on the phone can we get them in person can we get them to show

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up to some sort of conversion event some sales event that we can then try and sell them something

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right and so you keep walking walking the dollar over the bridge until eventually it comes to the

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other side but that takes money and that takes time and that takes learning but it's a return

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on investment because if you do double your leaf flow in a year one it doubles the business

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two it more than doubles the value of the business because now you have two different ways to get

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customers and so it makes the business more stable because if one of them goes down then you still

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have the other one and so you have a more stable business that's also bigger market advice number three

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how to do better and so this is double clicking into the better concept because this is especially

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for the bigger business owner so if you're at a few million dollars a year to tens of millions

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dollars a year like this is really going to start paying massive dividends so number one is

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optimize front to back when it comes to marketing so that's the 80-20 so David Ogovi said famously

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after you've ridden your headline you spent 80 cents of your advertising dollar so he knew that 80

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percent of people aren't going to do anything past read the headline and so if you put 80 percent

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of his effort towards those first few words and the really experienced marketers who are watching

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this are like nodding their heads right now the first five seconds the headline the packaging in

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my history of the 13 years that I've been doing this has only increased I haven't even gotten to

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a sweet spot they just continue to become more and more important in my mind because it's the frame

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through which everyone contextualizes what they're about to consume so one it increases the likely

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they consume it two it introduces the frame that they consume the advertisement or the promotion

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through and like we now have such great data geez even across on the content side that like if

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we have two different thumbnails you can literally see the average view duration go up by two or

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three minutes sometimes simply by changing the thumb that people click before they watch the video

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it's wild and so how people the frame that people consume the content in has a massive impact

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on how effective it is now until this quick story to show you just how how important this is so

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front of mind Dean had this massive advertising campaign and he had written a new book and he went

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on Larry King live and so he wanted to use the Larry King interview to advertise the book and so

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he shot the whole interview and he basically wanted Larry King to introduce him in a cool way to

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make him you know sound cool of course you know like he would laugh if I was if I'm telling the

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story now and so he knew that the ad was killer and so he ran it but 250 grand and nothing came

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back and he was like what's going on like I know this I know this adds a killer like what's

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happening so he went back through his old history of ads and he looked at the top performance ads

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he'd ever done and as soon as he started watching me realize that he missed the hook that the hook

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was wrong and so he flew Larry King back out they he paid him again they set up a whole new set

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again just to re-record the first 30 seconds and so they re-recorded the first 30 seconds

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with the hour long interview and then re-ran the infomercial and did a hundred million in sales

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and so when I heard that story I was like this is why that the first five seconds the headline the

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hook is so important and that's what I spend now a disproportionate of my time on and people

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are listening to this and you guys are nodding along but you're not you're still not getting it

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because it's not real free and it took me forever to figure this out when we make ads and I'll

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get in my ad creation process later um you have like I I I do 10 times the effort on the first five

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seconds 10 times actually 10 times if I have an hour I would I would spend 55 minutes on the first

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five seconds and then five minutes on everything that's after that like that's the proportion of how

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much time I'm spending on just getting that first part right I'll give you a different content

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example of this so I was invited to this uh content creator thing um with all the you know top

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guys probably 10 guys there uh the lowest guy in the room was me and the next lowest guy was at

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like 10 million plus subscribers only on YouTube so they just had me there because for entertainment

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who knows um and and I remember one of the guys had about 15 million subscribers and he was pissed

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that this other content creator had basically copied his video and the copying video had done

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better than his like three times more he got like 30 million views and he's got like 10 million views

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and the main guy there who had several hundred million uh subscribers across all his channels

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was like let's pop it in let's let's roast it and so they press play on the video and five seconds

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and he stops the video he's like dude you didn't confirm the thumb he's like the headline and the first

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five seconds weren't confirmed and he's like I don't need to see anymore and he's walked out of the room

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and so this guy had spent weeks you know making this thing obsessing about every detail of it

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he had a 20 page plus brief on how he was making this video and he missed the first five seconds

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and that was the guy who had the multiple hundred million uh subscribers was like that's it and

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he just walked out and got lunch and so when I saw that I was like wow like it just reinforced

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how important this was and recently just at a micro level one of our portfolio companies is

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a figure plus business um we simply changed the headline on the landing page like we did nothing

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else we kept same ads just changed the headline we increased booking rate by 62% now here's

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what's crazy is the opt-in rate remained the same but simply because of the frame of the promise

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in the headline 62% more people chose to book calls for that business and so it just shows you

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that how you frame what people are then going to consume has a massive impact on how much value

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and how likely they are to take the next step so here's how you do it in terms of optimizing 80-20

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fronts of back so number one is assume that they have no idea who you are what you do how it works

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they're in a rush and they have a third grade education all right so clear beats clever

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deletion beats explanation and so what you want to do is you want to try and make it as short

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as seemingly possible and then once you have it as short as possible put into a third grade reading

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calculator look at the grade level and keep editing it down until it's third grade good thing is

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is you're not going to attract dumber people you're going to make accessible to everyone a smart

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person needs to use less brain power to ex to understand simple language and it makes it

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understand a bowl to everyone else and as a reminder 30% of people can barely read and so

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this is like relying on them to have the skill it's like you want to meet them where they're at

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and there are some very rich people who can barely read and so it has nothing to do with intelligence

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it says everything to do with how they're educated which has which may have no no connection with

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their purchasing power okay and tactically what I'll do is I probably I'd make about 50 hooks

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every time I start recording ads so I have 50 hooks that I've written down that I think are awesome

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and then I have three to five meet pieces of an advertisement and then I do one to three CTAs

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meaning call to actions at the end and so that means I have way more on the front end in terms of

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effort compared to the one the three to five and the one to three that I do on the back and that's

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because I know that that's where all of the effort needs to go because that's where all the returns are

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and here's the here's the difference and this is why I say from you optimize advertising

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specifically from front to back because it's very rare that you're going to be able to double

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or triple or quadruple the amount of throughput you get in a funnel by optimizing the back end

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if you have a you know a 30 you know call it a 50% show up rate okay if you get it to 75% that's

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massive but it's a 50% jump and that would be a massive increase in show rate if you did that

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but I can absolutely get CTRs from 1% to 4% by just optimizing the hell out of the front end

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and that's a 4x increase that's four times the throughput that goes through the entire funnel

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and so I put my effort there because you can achieve 100% 200% 300% increases on the front end

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whereas it's much more difficult on the back end now for sure you want to optimize this thing

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but if I'm going to allocate my effort I want to get the biggest bang for buck

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so when you're making your hooks I call to call out so reading page 136 from my book

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a call out is whatever you do to get the attention of your audience call out

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from hyper specific to get one person's attention to not at all specific to get everyone's attention

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so let me explain if someone drops a tray of dishes in a party everyone looks if a child yells mom

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then the moms look if someone says your name only you look but again they all get attention

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and so I try to make my call out as specific as possible to get the right people but broad enough

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to get as many of them as I can so pay close attention now advertisers use call outs especially the

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ones targeting your audience and so what I'll do is I'll look at all the ads from other competitors

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who are targeting that same audience as me and the ads that are running a very long time I know

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that that call out is working well and so I will write down all the call outs that I see

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a problem that I think that they're struggling from or a question that I think that I know that

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they'll say yes to or I'll simply state moms in Nevada homeowners in Clark County right very

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clearly calling out this is for you and that's exactly what you want the person to say when they

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read the headline or hear the call out this is for me and the more specific you get oftentimes

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you'll be surprised you think that going as broad as you can is going to increase the number of

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opt-ins but when you get really specific about the type of customer you're really trying to attract

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you will often find that they're like oh I wouldn't have responded the broad thing but this one's

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just for me and you get more people in terms of qualified leads in the door by being more specific

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piece of advice number four LTV to CAC is the only thing that matters and if I had only one metric

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that I could find out about a business if I only had one that I could pick it would be the

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LTV to CAC ratio and let me tell you a quick story that will kind of drive the sum so a friend of mine

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owns a bow manufacturing business and they do you know 23 million bucks a year so relatively

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large business established and he was like hey we're trying to get into paydads now they had all

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these distribution relationship but they want to open up this new channel and he says hey you're the

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you know you're the marketing guy right so can you you know what what would you do here and so as

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I was explaining the the process that I the strategy that I wanted to outline for him he was like well

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what's the benchmark I should be looking at in terms of leads and I was like do the benchmark is

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irrelevant it everything just comes back from what's gross profit so it's like okay so what's the

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average gross profit on a bow I'm making this up say it's five hundred dollars okay so if we get

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leads for call it 20 bucks and we know that we can get one in five leads to buy a bow then it

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so cost us one hundred dollars to make five hundred dollars your gross profit five to one awesome

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was at ten dollars then he'd be getting ten to one and that's assuming the same ratios and so it

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just depends on what percentage of customers you convert and at what price what you're converting

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cac to ltv or cac to ltgp so I use ltgp to be more specific lifetime values just the amount

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of gross profit you make from a customer over the lifetime of them being a customer of your

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business cac is the cost to require customer which is the all in cost including sales marketing

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software everything to get someone to give you money and so the cac to tv ratio is simply how much

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money it costs you to make more money it's the foundational economic unit of any business

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and so making sure that you know how much money it costs you to make money that fundamentally

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feels like a very important metric in order to scale the business and over time as long as you don't

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have some big capital expenses in terms of scaling your business that fundamental return that you

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get will reflect the company growth of the business provided you don't have other constraints to

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growth so for example if I have meals that I sell for ten dollars and it cost me nine dollars to

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package and ship them and deliver them then I have one dollar of gross profit per meal and so if

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someone buys ten meals for me I'm not making a hundred dollars I'm making ten dollars in gross

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profit if the average person buys call it five weeks of meals then I would make fifty dollars

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in lifetime gross profit and so the only way that I would want to be able to acquire our customers

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is that the cost to car customer in this example I don't want to have probably at fifteen dollars

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or less because you can't do it at even because then there's no money left over to do everything

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else in the business and so the rule of thumb is that you would have at least three to one on

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LTV to CAC but again LTV is not lifetime revenue it's lifetime gross profit right and that's what

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people I think a lot of times mess up is they don't even know what their gross profit is and then

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they spend blindly so I'll tell you a fun one so if you've seen Starbucks advertised now a lot of

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them they just use their storefronts as they're advertising at this point but they make about

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fourteen thousand dollars in LTV per customer and so they could spend absurd amounts of money

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to get customers in the door like even if it costs them five hundred dollars they're still making

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twenty eight to one on the money they put in and that is why that company's been able to scale

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to the moon in terms of the number of locations and so I will say that the all the money that I've

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made in my life that has been the crazy money has come from crazy LTV to CAC ratios and so

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the smallest ratios that I've made crazy money on is thirty to one all the way up to a hundred

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to one to two hundred to one returns and some of the businesses I have and so those those windows

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don't stay forever and when you do have one of those you just want to dump as much money into that

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machine as you possibly can because a lot of wealth is made in very short punctuated periods

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and then sustained by long periods of maintenance where you're getting five to one eight to one

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ten to one those are fine numbers but most of the time when you're at ten to one as soon as you

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start scaling it it might drop to five to one and so I actually end up seeing the bigger the ratio

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spending you know a thousand dollars a day and I can get a hundred to one then I know that I'm

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probably going to get to a hundred thousand dollars a day and get five to one right and so that's

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the idea is like how can I how can I scale this up and I care about absolute return not relative

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return but the CAC to LTV ratio gives me an indication how much room I have to blow this thing out

401
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of the water the easiest way to calculate what your lifetime gross profit is just look at all the

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customers that you sold over the last year look at gross profit and if you don't know gross

403
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profit is it's just the cost of goods basically the price you charge minus the cost of goods sold

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which is whether it's if it's services then it's the labor that you used to provide the service

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if it's a widget then it's the cost of the widget and the shipping associated with it so the cost

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of goods sold minus the revenue and that leftover is the gross profit and so you say okay I had a

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hundred customers this year I made this total amount of gross profit this year you'd buy that

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amount of gross profit by the total of number of customers that'll give you a broad brushstroke

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of what you make per customer now that'll always underestimate it especially if you have a

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recurring revenue business because they're going to hopefully have some people who buy again

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and again over time but I would always rather be on the safer side and underestimate my lifetime

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gross profit or lifetime value rather than overestimate and potentially lose money if I want to then

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take that number and say okay well what am I willing to spend per customer then at most you

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want to have a third of that number but for me specifically I want to make sure that whatever

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I collect in the first 30 days I want to make sure that I collect that back from customers so if

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I'm set let's say I sell something for 10 bucks a month people stay for 10 months and there's

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a hundred percent gross margins to make this simple so I make a hundred bucks in gross profit I want

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to see if I can find a way to make ten dollars back or get my pack back in that first 30 days

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and so sometimes it means having a one-time upcharge up front so they can offset the cost of

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acquisition so then the remainder of the customer relationship can be profitable and if these concepts

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about scaling like LTV2CAC are interesting to you we just open up a new workshops division at

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acquisition.com for companies that were not invested in if you would like us and my team to help

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you personalize kind of applying this stuff to your business you can go to acquisition.com click

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the scale button and you can see if your business qualifies otherwise back to the video.

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Piece of advice number five my ad creation process so I've been running ads for 13 years and I'm

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saying when I say running ads I mean like I've been making ads or directly influencing ads that

427
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have been run across my portfolio or companies that I directly owned or founded for 13 straight

428
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years and so I have this process pretty nailed and I haven't really ever gotten too far away from

429
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it partially because I like it a lot and I've gotten just pretty good at it and so this is how

430
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I do it so number one is that at all times I'm collecting data what I mean by that is like if I

431
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see ads on Instagram I see ads on YouTube like I have no pre-mic accounts on any platform because

432
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I want to hear the ads I want to hear the hooks I want to hear what they're doing to draw attention

433
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and I like using that stuff because I'm also a business owner so the people who advertise to me

434
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are the people that are going to try and hook my attention and so I can still use that stuff

435
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to get to my avatar and so if you are your avatar the ads count double for you and so I

436
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screenshot I record the stuff that I find interesting and I add it into one folder then when I

437
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get to my ad creation process which I do once a week I then sit down first thing in the morning

438
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and I do these the same day I record so that's just a piece of advice that has worked well for me

439
00:33:03.360 --> 00:33:07.840
like cramming for the test I cram for my ad sessions because then everything's top of mind as I

440
00:33:07.840 --> 00:33:12.400
go into the day and so I pull up all my sweat files of all the things that I want like my inspiration

441
00:33:12.400 --> 00:33:17.120
from the second thing that I pull up is all my historical best performing ads so I look back one

442
00:33:17.120 --> 00:33:21.600
years two years three years sometimes at all my best ads and I drink those back in and I

443
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watch the first 10 seconds watch the first 30 seconds CC okay how's it capturing what was the

444
00:33:25.360 --> 00:33:31.440
angle what was the hook here and then I start the actual hook creation process now 40 of my 50 hooks

445
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that I'm going to write out are going to be stuff that is tried and true I'm not going to try

446
00:33:36.560 --> 00:33:40.560
and reinvent the wheel we've already spent zillions and zillions of dollars I know that these hooks

447
00:33:40.560 --> 00:33:45.680
these entrances work well now 20 percent the last 10 is where I get to use all my inspiration

448
00:33:45.680 --> 00:33:49.520
and other ideas to try and experiment on but most people flip this they try and do a little bit

449
00:33:49.520 --> 00:33:53.760
of the stuff that worked and they have lots of new ideas I'm telling you I've done this a long time

450
00:33:53.760 --> 00:33:58.000
it's way more efficient to just do more of what worked and then leave a little bit of experimentation

451
00:33:58.000 --> 00:34:02.000
so that if some of those things stop working over time you have this fresh batch that you've been

452
00:34:02.000 --> 00:34:07.120
trying out that then can become the control that you try and beat so citing back to the 80 20

453
00:34:07.120 --> 00:34:12.400
concept of you put 80 percent of your effort into the hooks and 80 percent of your effort goes into

454
00:34:12.400 --> 00:34:16.720
stuff that tried and true and 20 percent for the things that are new all right so I make about 50

455
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hooks so 80 percent of that is 40 hooks and 20 percent of that is 10 hooks so 40 out of my 50 hooks

456
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I do for things that I already know have worked in the past 10 hooks I say for my new creative ideas

457
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and so that's for the inspiration stuff that I see or anything that I come to that cram session

458
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that I want to get out from there I then have my three to five angles that I'm going to write

459
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that's going to be educational or some sort of value that I'm going to deliver or some sort of

460
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belief that I want to break or some sort of list or steps or stories that I want to tell as

461
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the core meat of the ad some sort of proof I want to demonstrate and then finally just a quick

462
00:34:47.680 --> 00:34:52.800
CTA in terms of call to action but the majority of my effort is all on the 50 or so hooks

463
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that I'm going to write 40 of which being recycled versions of things that already know work

464
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and 10 being net new and this sounds boring and it is boring but it's also what works and believe

465
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me I have tried to change this process a lot of times like this works let's say that you have

466
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your a mega winner and these happen and this is where you get this is the this is power law

467
00:35:13.200 --> 00:35:18.960
like that top 5% makes 95% your income like you we run all these ads to figure out which is the

468
00:35:18.960 --> 00:35:24.640
one ad that can sing and just crank and print money and so what I do is I I use something that I

469
00:35:24.640 --> 00:35:28.560
call the Claudisco process I've never had anyone else sell it so I'm owning that title all right

470
00:35:28.560 --> 00:35:32.160
and so the Claudisco process this is how you do it is that let's say you've got a winning ad so

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I had an ad at Jamont that actually the now president kale made when he was a customer of him in front

472
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of his gym the gym being full and his wife's next to him and he's like you know six months ago

473
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I was working full-time job in order to pay rent at this gym and my wife was pregnant and we had oh

474
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and I had a two month old and I had no idea how it's going to make ends meet and then here we are six

475
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months later the gym is full it's completely outsourced and I've already got an offer for $250,000

476
00:35:58.240 --> 00:36:02.480
on the gym if you've ever been worried like take the jump just follow the process it works right it's

477
00:36:02.480 --> 00:36:09.360
very simple ad but it murdered it absolutely crushed and so rather than say wow okay well that

478
00:36:09.360 --> 00:36:13.840
was nice let's try and do that let's try and get somebody else to see that we took that and we

479
00:36:13.840 --> 00:36:19.040
squeezed the living life out of it and so here's 10 things that I did to get more out of that ad so

480
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one is I changed the color of the backgrounds if I can do that right or backdrops it's the

481
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way that we can record that ad with a different background or a different background color like if

482
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you have a green screen second is there are the different props that we can introduce that ad

483
00:36:30.720 --> 00:36:34.960
all right so can we show stuff can we can we show visuals or can show physical props three can we

484
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just reenact it and say okay how can you just do it again just literally do the same ad different

485
00:36:39.520 --> 00:36:43.280
t-shirt if you want same exact thing just do it again and if you're the one making the ads you just

486
00:36:43.280 --> 00:36:48.400
do your best performing ad again you can for reorder it so we took the ad that was already the

487
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original winner and we just re re-changed the order up of the ad and it's still converted the

488
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next things we added visual filters so think black and white think sepia think high contrast low

489
00:36:58.080 --> 00:37:01.920
contrast these are all different things that made the ad look different than it was but it still

490
00:37:01.920 --> 00:37:06.560
delivered the same message the next one is visual effects right VFX like dude ads and when

491
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whizz bangs and things like that that you can add to again make it look different the next is

492
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changing fonts and captions so it's like if we had a font style that was one way we just changed

493
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the way the font style looks another is that you can change the pacing or the speed of the video

494
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itself you can actually do it at 1.2 or 1.5 and have it go through or slow down at portions you can

495
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add music to it there's another one right you can also use the same hook which is like we knew

496
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the hook from that first ad obviously crushed and then just say hey re-recorded again we'll use the

497
00:37:33.440 --> 00:37:37.120
same hook and use a different back right and so all of those are different ways that will take a

498
00:37:37.120 --> 00:37:42.640
winner and then 10x or 100x how much that winner gets us and I'm telling you if you if you take one

499
00:37:42.640 --> 00:37:47.040
thing from this video from advertising squeeze the living how to the winners so mark advice number

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six is that there is only four ways they can let other people know about your stuff and so think

501
00:37:50.960 --> 00:37:56.160
about this like a four box you've got one to one conversations and one to many which is broadcasts

502
00:37:56.160 --> 00:37:59.440
right there's the two styles of community either community to a group of people or one person

503
00:37:59.440 --> 00:38:03.840
individually and you're either talking to people who know who you are or you're talking to strangers

504
00:38:03.840 --> 00:38:07.840
and so if you cross that you've got four ways you've got one to one to people who know you one to

505
00:38:07.840 --> 00:38:12.800
one to one to strangers one to many to people who know you one to many to strangers and if you look

506
00:38:12.800 --> 00:38:17.040
at that in terms of what that is an advertising it means this is warm outreach cold outreach making

507
00:38:17.120 --> 00:38:20.880
content which is one to many two people you know and then running ads which is one to many

508
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to strangers and so there's the only four things that you can do to advertise to let people know

509
00:38:25.200 --> 00:38:30.400
about your stuff and basically if you're not spending your day doing one of those core four things

510
00:38:30.400 --> 00:38:34.640
you are not advertising you are not marketing your business and so sometimes it gets you have to

511
00:38:34.640 --> 00:38:38.160
get it to that simple when you look at how many hours per day am I spending letting people know

512
00:38:38.160 --> 00:38:43.680
about my stuff most people spend zero zero zero per day letting people know about their stuff and then

513
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for some reason they're curious as to why their business isn't growing well no one knows you

514
00:38:47.360 --> 00:38:54.160
exist I was at a conference I was at gym con recently and I asked the audience who here wants to

515
00:38:54.160 --> 00:38:58.080
grow their gym faster everybody raised their hand and I said okay and these are all small businesses

516
00:38:58.080 --> 00:39:02.400
so these are most of the guys here doing I would say $500,000 a year to $3 million a year so these

517
00:39:02.400 --> 00:39:07.200
aren't massive businesses they're normal you know one location three location five location owner

518
00:39:07.200 --> 00:39:12.880
operators of service based you know training businesses and I said okay who here is spending the

519
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first four hours of their day promoting their business either doing cold outreach making content

520
00:39:18.480 --> 00:39:25.120
or running ads who is spending the first four hours every day on that literally no one in the

521
00:39:25.120 --> 00:39:30.400
audience had their hand raised and I was like this is why you're small like this is it like it was

522
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mind-blowing to me that that was what it was and so if you're if you're making less than

523
00:39:34.800 --> 00:39:39.760
called a million maybe three million dollars a year like all of your effort the the first four

524
00:39:39.760 --> 00:39:43.680
hours of your day which if you have to wake up early awesome if you have to stay up late to do it

525
00:39:43.680 --> 00:39:47.920
awesome I don't care but you need four hours that you're dedicating because you gotta you gotta do

526
00:39:47.920 --> 00:39:51.760
the job of promoting and then you gotta run your business but if you're just running your business

527
00:39:51.760 --> 00:39:56.400
you're never gonna get ahead so if you wanted to grow you gotta force it to grow you have to force

528
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people to find out about your stuff and you do that through advertising I recommend this so

529
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violently because small businesses need to do more and in the beginning they just don't get

530
00:40:06.000 --> 00:40:10.800
enough leads so fundamentally like most businesses if you just had more leads you would make more money

531
00:40:10.800 --> 00:40:16.720
now realistically and I'll get to some of the some of the specifics on this is that in order to

532
00:40:16.720 --> 00:40:20.800
get more leads you need to be able to do so profitably which thing comes back down to the business

533
00:40:20.800 --> 00:40:25.040
and building the business back to front we advertise front to back we build the business back to

534
00:40:25.040 --> 00:40:30.320
front and I'll get a lot of details on that in a second but big picture you just need to get

535
00:40:30.320 --> 00:40:34.000
especially when you're starting out you're at 500 a million you know less than three million and

536
00:40:34.000 --> 00:40:37.600
those are big numbers so I don't say I don't mean that to demean it but I want you to build massive

537
00:40:37.600 --> 00:40:43.840
enterprises that make huge impact you have to get more flow through the system so that you can

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learn how to improve the product so that you can build a better back end and then you basically

539
00:40:49.120 --> 00:40:54.000
you promote and you stay at that level of promotion until you tweak this and nail it then you go

540
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back and scale it and so one of our sayings internally is nail it then scale it so nail the back end

541
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you do enough promotion to get flow in right then you monetize then you create fiction that's

542
00:41:04.000 --> 00:41:07.920
when you tweak the hell out of it and then you can go back and say hey it turns out we could spend

543
00:41:07.920 --> 00:41:12.960
five times more to get customers then you scale so I'll give you my quick back of napkin scaling

544
00:41:12.960 --> 00:41:19.600
framework for this so when you're at zero to six figures you sell one product to one avatar on one

545
00:41:19.600 --> 00:41:24.880
channel that's it no shiny object no multiple channels no trying to scale yourself out of it

546
00:41:24.880 --> 00:41:29.920
you're just selling one product to one avatar on one channel when you go from six to seven figures

547
00:41:29.920 --> 00:41:35.520
you scale you sell one product to one avatar on one channel consistently because in the beginning

548
00:41:35.520 --> 00:41:38.400
you're super volatile right you're not you're making a sale this week not next week then this

549
00:41:38.400 --> 00:41:42.080
week again or the next month whatever it's super volatile when you get to seven figures it's more

550
00:41:42.080 --> 00:41:47.040
consistent you just you get it to be reliable so when you go from seven figures to eight figures

551
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you go one avatar one channel two products that means you have an upsell you sell something else

552
00:41:54.080 --> 00:41:59.520
and then you do that consistently right that's what gets you to eight figures that's what gets you

553
00:41:59.520 --> 00:42:03.760
to ten million bucks a year and if you want to go to you know multiple eight figures then you start

554
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going two channels one avatar two products consistently and so over time this is how I've seen I've

555
00:42:10.800 --> 00:42:16.800
just seen this pattern now can you find somebody who disabases pattern sure AG1 has one product one

556
00:42:16.800 --> 00:42:22.480
avatar a zillion channels right so yes there are ways to break this rule but when I look at

557
00:42:22.480 --> 00:42:27.360
by and large the vast majority of businesses they follow this structure and they mess up along the

558
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way until they follow the next step and you'll notice that scaling up to eight figures and even

559
00:42:32.080 --> 00:42:36.000
sometimes a little beyond that you're still only focused on one avatar and I'm going to talk about

560
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this in a lot of depth in one of the later advice points because it's super important this may be

561
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one of the bigger unlocks you could have in the business market vice number seven state the facts

562
00:42:44.080 --> 00:42:48.160
and tell the truth this is probably one of the most repeated phrases besides volume negates luck

563
00:42:48.160 --> 00:42:52.960
that I have internally to my business and so I remember when I was at that same little meetup with

564
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the super creators and I was I was talking to the guy who had the most you know subscribers there

565
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and I was like yeah you know like we don't really like this whole clickbait title thing and he looked

566
00:43:02.400 --> 00:43:08.640
at me with disgust he was like you absolutely make clickbait titles he said you just back it up with

567
00:43:08.640 --> 00:43:13.920
truth he's like so it's crazy clickbait he's like but it also happens to be true and I remember when

568
00:43:13.920 --> 00:43:20.560
he said that to me and I was like shit that's that's real and it's funny because that was a

569
00:43:20.560 --> 00:43:25.200
concept that I have in terms of paid ads but I hadn't thought about it in terms of content and so

570
00:43:25.200 --> 00:43:28.880
it's so interesting how some of these principles just apply across across domains but like sometimes

571
00:43:28.880 --> 00:43:34.080
you have to relearn the same lessons I hate doing but I did it anyways and so the problem is that

572
00:43:34.080 --> 00:43:40.160
most businesses don't track results and it's because if you don't track you don't care now they

573
00:43:40.240 --> 00:43:43.200
don't track partially because if they it's kind of like ignorance like they know they don't

574
00:43:43.200 --> 00:43:46.720
deliver good results and so if they track it then they'll have facts and truth that they will

575
00:43:46.720 --> 00:43:50.400
be proven that they're delivering bad results but the first step is tracking it because once you

576
00:43:50.400 --> 00:43:55.040
start tracking it you can improve it and measurement as intervention is actually a scientifically

577
00:43:55.600 --> 00:44:00.640
proven method to lose weight to improve sales to improve anything you want you can literally

578
00:44:00.640 --> 00:44:05.920
simply tracking it not trying to do anything else but simply tracking your weight simply tracking

579
00:44:05.920 --> 00:44:10.560
your clothes rate simply tracking your ad performance will improve it because you're just putting

580
00:44:10.560 --> 00:44:15.520
attention on it and so if you don't track you don't care now once you do start tracking it you can

581
00:44:15.520 --> 00:44:20.000
start doing things to actually improve it beyond just measurement as intervention and so when you do

582
00:44:20.000 --> 00:44:26.480
that loan behold your stats get better and then you can state the facts and tell the truth and

583
00:44:26.480 --> 00:44:32.880
have that truth be wildly compelling and so real talk the part of the reason that Jamont to this

584
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day has still not been beaten or dethroned as the the largest company in that space is because we

585
00:44:38.800 --> 00:44:43.360
still have better stats and better results than anyone else does the average gym who goes through 12

586
00:44:43.360 --> 00:44:48.160
months of gym launch makes over a hundred plus thousand a year and added profit by using the

587
00:44:48.160 --> 00:44:54.160
systems we have that's just what it is and so like if someone if it makes sense for somebody to

588
00:44:54.160 --> 00:44:59.200
triple their money then they make that they make the purchase right it's it's I like to take a lot

589
00:44:59.200 --> 00:45:02.000
of emotion out of the sale like if this makes sense for you if this return makes sense for you

590
00:45:02.000 --> 00:45:05.200
than do it if it doesn't make sense then don't do it now the risk they take on is what about the

591
00:45:05.200 --> 00:45:10.800
bottom 20% and so the nice thing is that we track that so the bottom 20% average $40,000 in additional

592
00:45:10.800 --> 00:45:15.760
revenue so they basically broke even and so it's like that's the bottom and so like if if that's

593
00:45:15.760 --> 00:45:18.800
you then it's like yeah you worked and you basically broke even that kind of sucks now I'm not

594
00:45:18.800 --> 00:45:23.040
talking about the top 20% because this guy's had 500,000 plus per year but the thing is is that if you

595
00:45:23.040 --> 00:45:27.920
track the stats then you can promote the stats and you can do so truthfully they go from unsubstantiated

596
00:45:27.920 --> 00:45:32.720
claims to substantiated claims like one of the things that I'm most proud of in school school

597
00:45:32.720 --> 00:45:35.760
calm which is the platform for people who are trying to start their businesses this video is mostly

598
00:45:35.760 --> 00:45:40.800
for people who already own a business but if you're trying to start a business 30.44% of people

599
00:45:40.800 --> 00:45:44.000
who finish their first month make their first dollar online like I'm super proud of that and we

600
00:45:44.000 --> 00:45:48.800
just rolled out this massive new thing to basically make it even easier even faster to do it right now

601
00:45:48.800 --> 00:45:53.920
if 35% more people actually succeeding there so I think we're going to be at a little bit over 40%

602
00:45:54.720 --> 00:45:59.280
so I'm super stoked about that but like unless you measure like if you don't track you don't care

603
00:45:59.280 --> 00:46:04.560
here's the tactical steps collect data first so you implement a data step where you collect data

604
00:46:04.560 --> 00:46:09.600
for people day one day 30 day 60 day 90 at the end of the program or whatever your implementation is

605
00:46:10.240 --> 00:46:15.200
you track data throughout number two is you keep improving things until the data becomes compelling

606
00:46:15.200 --> 00:46:19.040
and number three is how do you actually present that data so there's four variables that matters

607
00:46:19.040 --> 00:46:23.840
when you're presenting the data number one is the percentage of people whether that's the median

608
00:46:23.840 --> 00:46:29.600
the average or the percentage overall of people that's number one who to achieve X outcome three in

609
00:46:29.600 --> 00:46:36.320
Y time or after X attempts and four under Z conditions and so it's like we get X percent of gyms

610
00:46:36.320 --> 00:46:42.320
so it was whatever is the average average gym so right average gym owner makes an extra $100,000

611
00:46:43.040 --> 00:46:49.600
per year in profit so that's the outcome after the first 12 months in gym loads or gym legacy which

612
00:46:49.600 --> 00:46:53.840
is the the program that we have a gym much right and so those are the conditions right and so it

613
00:46:53.840 --> 00:46:58.080
covers all four of those so when you're making these you want to you would hit all four of those

614
00:46:58.080 --> 00:47:03.520
things when you're explaining the data publicly and I will say that the fewer conditions you have

615
00:47:03.520 --> 00:47:10.800
the more compelling it is because for example if I said the average gym who spends $10,000 a month

616
00:47:10.800 --> 00:47:17.360
and has 10 employees and has two methods of acquisition and a large group training and a small

617
00:47:17.360 --> 00:47:22.640
group training achieves like by the time I even get that you're like whatever right and so you

618
00:47:22.640 --> 00:47:28.640
want to you want to strip away and really like I would rather have a fewer condition statement

619
00:47:28.640 --> 00:47:34.640
that has lower results me personally than a higher result one with more conditions market advice

620
00:47:34.640 --> 00:47:38.960
number eight say what only you can say show what only you can show and this is one of the other

621
00:47:38.960 --> 00:47:44.720
isms that I have internal to my business and so if you're the only triple black belt in Ohio

622
00:47:44.720 --> 00:47:51.040
for Muay Thai then say that you're the only triple back belt in Ohio for Muay Thai right this is

623
00:47:51.040 --> 00:47:55.280
talking about the things that you have done rather than telling people what to do it's how I versus

624
00:47:55.280 --> 00:48:02.560
how to and so my my concept for making amazing ads and making amazing content is two steps do

625
00:48:02.560 --> 00:48:09.360
epic stuff talk about what you did and so you can't out outcome people or you can out work them

626
00:48:09.360 --> 00:48:13.840
so it starts with the out working and then the out working creates the out out coming and the

627
00:48:13.840 --> 00:48:18.800
out coming is a much shorter headline but the out working them still works right I can start by

628
00:48:18.800 --> 00:48:23.840
saying hey I wrote these two books writing two books would be an out working thing like anyone

629
00:48:23.840 --> 00:48:27.520
could do it there's no outcome but hey I wrote these two books but then if the books are good

630
00:48:27.520 --> 00:48:30.960
then I get the outcome which is that we sold over a million copies there's still number one

631
00:48:30.960 --> 00:48:35.440
and number two and marketing to this day multiple years later and so the idea is that first you do

632
00:48:35.440 --> 00:48:40.080
the work and then you get the outcome but most people want to say epic stuff having done none of it

633
00:48:40.080 --> 00:48:44.640
and so you can get past the judgment of other people because you're not saying hey you have to do

634
00:48:44.640 --> 00:48:50.400
anything I'm saying this is what I did and so the idea is that everybody wants a return on their time

635
00:48:50.400 --> 00:48:55.520
all right and I remember hearing this first concept from Iraq who's a youtuber and he said dude I made

636
00:48:55.520 --> 00:49:01.840
this thing where I went on 100 dates in basically I did an entire season of the bachelor but I did it

637
00:49:01.840 --> 00:49:07.920
in 16 minutes he's like what a steal and he said that to me I was like man such an interesting concept

638
00:49:07.920 --> 00:49:11.760
like he just took something that was really long and made it really short and he crammed it in

639
00:49:11.760 --> 00:49:15.680
there so value per second was super high and I'll just give you this one is that it's not about

640
00:49:16.480 --> 00:49:21.840
seconds of value it's value per second that's what matters like everybody has access to infinite

641
00:49:21.840 --> 00:49:25.920
information so you just saying I'm going to give you more stuff is not helpful what you want to do

642
00:49:25.920 --> 00:49:30.880
is curate it and pack it and distill it and crystallize all the value and as tight a package is

643
00:49:30.880 --> 00:49:35.920
nearly possible so that they're value per second skyrockets and you can do that by saying hey I

644
00:49:35.920 --> 00:49:41.920
spent 10 hours editing you know you know I spent I spent 20 hours making a summary of this book

645
00:49:41.920 --> 00:49:46.160
and you can read the whole thing in 10 minutes that's why summary still always work right because

646
00:49:46.160 --> 00:49:50.560
people want to get a deal on their time thinking the same result for fraction of the time it's always

647
00:49:50.560 --> 00:49:54.240
a good deal by the way if you ever want to sell to rich people just promise the same result

648
00:49:54.240 --> 00:49:57.760
in half the time for twice the price and even if you think about this video overall it's like well

649
00:49:57.760 --> 00:50:02.720
I spent 13 years doing all this stuff and I'm trying to compress those lessons into whatever

650
00:50:02.720 --> 00:50:08.080
amount of time this video is certainly less than 13 years and so this is a great deal for the right

651
00:50:08.080 --> 00:50:12.560
person for the right business owner who's actually trying to scale so how do you actually do this

652
00:50:12.560 --> 00:50:17.920
so if I had a marketing agency showing what only I can show I want to demonstrate and so I

653
00:50:17.920 --> 00:50:21.040
wouldn't say hey I'm going to get you leads what I want to do is get on a sales call and I'm

654
00:50:21.040 --> 00:50:25.600
going to play with a live lead that I got for one of my companies one of my clients sounds like

655
00:50:25.600 --> 00:50:29.280
and I'd be like hey listen to this call it's a minute long do you think you could how could you

656
00:50:29.280 --> 00:50:34.080
take 50 of these a month wow some more compelling than saying I'll just get you 50 leads they're actually

657
00:50:34.080 --> 00:50:39.120
getting a a fractionalized version they're getting a taste of what it looks like to be in the future

658
00:50:39.120 --> 00:50:43.040
right they're experiencing the result vicariously through the other person and fundamentally

659
00:50:43.040 --> 00:50:46.240
that's what a good testimony does is they they put themselves in the shoes of the person who got

660
00:50:46.240 --> 00:50:51.520
the result and then they account they put a discount on that and say okay how how likely is that

661
00:50:51.520 --> 00:50:55.680
for me and that's what I'm willing to pay now if it were guaranteed then all money making

662
00:50:55.680 --> 00:50:58.960
opportunities would be worth it because hey if you spend a thousand dollars to make a hundred

663
00:50:58.960 --> 00:51:02.800
thousand dollars a year by buying this course then everyone would buy it if they knew for sure

664
00:51:02.800 --> 00:51:06.480
it would happen they'd be an amazing deal the problems that people apply a discount to it because

665
00:51:06.480 --> 00:51:10.560
of how unlikely it is for them and so we want to increase that likelihood by showing them rather

666
00:51:10.560 --> 00:51:15.120
than telling them right and so agency example that was that one the software example that I have

667
00:51:15.120 --> 00:51:20.880
is this is why demos are so effective right you want to see this hey you have a video clipping

668
00:51:20.880 --> 00:51:24.720
software great do you have a video on you cool send it to me we're on the phone great I'm

669
00:51:24.720 --> 00:51:28.320
going to pull this video up this is what we do to put the captions on and and shorten and find

670
00:51:28.320 --> 00:51:32.560
those moments click click click click click click okay so normally how long does that take you well it

671
00:51:32.560 --> 00:51:36.960
takes me this song well watch me do it click click wow would that make your life easier yes cool

672
00:51:36.960 --> 00:51:40.720
boom they go in right you're demonstrating in advance and I'll give you final one when I was at my

673
00:51:40.720 --> 00:51:45.360
gym in Huntington Beach my first location I ever had I remember this I had a door to door sales guy

674
00:51:45.360 --> 00:51:51.360
who came up all right and this guy was a clear sale a pro he was really good and he told me

675
00:51:51.360 --> 00:51:55.280
cleaning products he really did like is that it's probably the only door to door thing I've ever bought

676
00:51:55.280 --> 00:51:59.920
and it was just because it was such a good it was such a good sale and he had it down it's so tight

677
00:51:59.920 --> 00:52:04.800
I think he was in that like 13 minutes like it was stupid and so he just said hey I've got this

678
00:52:04.800 --> 00:52:08.880
stuff it'll take care of any stain that you've got on this floor and I had turf and so I had gum

679
00:52:08.880 --> 00:52:12.640
that had gotten in the turf it was really black and let go in there and so he just took that thing

680
00:52:12.640 --> 00:52:16.320
and he poured it on the gum and he just got his hands and he's he scrubbed and it actually came out

681
00:52:16.320 --> 00:52:20.800
and the gum was actually impossible to get out and I was like wow like he I didn't have to think

682
00:52:20.800 --> 00:52:24.800
will this work for me he just did it in front of me on a stain I actually had he's like cool looks

683
00:52:24.800 --> 00:52:28.560
like you got 20 other stains if this is worth it it's a hundred bucks for this stuff so I paid a

684
00:52:28.560 --> 00:52:32.560
hundred bucks for some cleaning supplies but it was totally worth it right and I ended up using

685
00:52:32.560 --> 00:52:36.320
that stuff for actually years because I had the you sold my fucking huge gallons of it right

686
00:52:37.120 --> 00:52:41.600
and so again it's whenever you can and don't say oh this doesn't work for my business try and

687
00:52:41.600 --> 00:52:47.760
imagine how can I make this work for my business show them what what they will experience and do it

688
00:52:47.760 --> 00:52:53.280
in a way that no one else can do it and so for example me I the reason I say like do you epic stuff

689
00:52:53.280 --> 00:52:58.240
and then talk about it is that you continue to live life every day and so things continue to happen

690
00:52:58.240 --> 00:53:02.400
and so you can use the things that happen that you're doing as the content that you're making

691
00:53:02.400 --> 00:53:05.920
and the content will always be shorter than the amount of time it took for the thing to happen

692
00:53:05.920 --> 00:53:09.680
and so we have a portfolio of companies and so I share case studies on this channel like hey

693
00:53:09.680 --> 00:53:14.400
here's how we added 40 sales guys here's how we you know increased you know we cut cut refunds by

694
00:53:14.400 --> 00:53:19.040
two thirds here's how we XYZ and it's because we're doing stuff and then we just talk about we did

695
00:53:19.040 --> 00:53:24.240
and so the key point step one is do stuff and then step two talk about it everyone else is stuck

696
00:53:24.240 --> 00:53:27.040
in the step where they don't want to they want to figure out what to talk about but it's because

697
00:53:27.040 --> 00:53:30.880
they haven't done anything if you do stuff you have more than enough to talk about marking truth

698
00:53:30.880 --> 00:53:35.360
number nine how and when to expand your market there's five ways now big picture the vast majority

699
00:53:35.360 --> 00:53:39.600
of people need to do way more with their current markets so just to give you context on this

700
00:53:39.600 --> 00:53:44.960
I had a guy who came out to a workshop and he said hey I I'm a coach you coach coaches right

701
00:53:44.960 --> 00:53:48.320
and I was like all right fine he said I'm spending you know I'm making two million bucks a year

702
00:53:48.320 --> 00:53:53.120
it's a really saturated space so I think should I go broader it's a general business and I was like

703
00:53:53.120 --> 00:53:57.280
dude how many coaches coaching coaches exist and he was like zillions and I was like dude I think

704
00:53:57.280 --> 00:54:01.040
you just need to get better because if you were the best coach of coaching coaches then you would be

705
00:54:01.040 --> 00:54:04.800
able to take all of the market share that all of those guys have and it would come to you right

706
00:54:04.800 --> 00:54:08.800
when it takes all if you're the best and so just to give you an example and this is the one I gave him

707
00:54:08.800 --> 00:54:14.320
I said Jim launch everyone is as a gym company but you don't know how niche it really is so one we

708
00:54:14.320 --> 00:54:18.640
didn't work with personal trainers number two we didn't work we do now but we didn't for the first

709
00:54:18.640 --> 00:54:23.680
four or five years work with big box facilities so large you know facilities where you pay you know

710
00:54:23.680 --> 00:54:29.440
$10 to 70 bucks a month to have access to the the pool the racquetball thing the cardio area the weights

711
00:54:29.440 --> 00:54:34.640
basketball whatever we we didn't work with them at all I call this facility leasing we didn't use those

712
00:54:34.960 --> 00:54:39.920
we didn't work with yoga we didn't work with spin we didn't work with Pilates we literally only

713
00:54:39.920 --> 00:54:45.440
worked with micro gyms that did before and after of weight loss and transformations they had to do

714
00:54:45.440 --> 00:54:52.240
fitness and weights or some combination of those that was it that's a niche of a niche of a niche

715
00:54:52.240 --> 00:54:57.600
and that business still cranks out 30 plus million dollars a year all right and so the idea here is

716
00:54:57.600 --> 00:55:04.080
that you want like the market if you are the best is still massive you just need to solve the

717
00:55:04.080 --> 00:55:09.920
thing that matters most which is being the best now if you have solved being the best there's five

718
00:55:09.920 --> 00:55:14.320
ways that you can expand and so I'll tell you what we did because gym launch has expanded I told you

719
00:55:14.320 --> 00:55:18.640
now we do do big box but there's five weeks you can expand one I think about like a pyramid so let's

720
00:55:18.640 --> 00:55:23.680
say you're in the middle you can go up market meaning you go to higher value customers so for us

721
00:55:23.680 --> 00:55:28.720
that would be health clubs the big boxes like I was talking about multi location owners or franchise

722
00:55:29.280 --> 00:55:33.120
those would be going up market more valuable but fewer of them like the pyramid on the other

723
00:55:33.120 --> 00:55:36.880
hand you can go down market I could go after personal trainers I didn't go after them we don't go

724
00:55:36.880 --> 00:55:40.560
after them but if I wanted to that would be a move that I could make I would have to sell a lot

725
00:55:40.560 --> 00:55:44.320
more volume at a lower price and build the infrastructure to support that kind of volume I could

726
00:55:44.320 --> 00:55:49.280
go adjacent which would be okay I've got gyms I'll do car fractures I'll do or I've got gyms and

727
00:55:49.280 --> 00:55:53.680
I can do weight loss clinics right or medspos or something like that so something that's adjacent

728
00:55:53.680 --> 00:55:58.160
that serves a similar avatar but a slightly different business model that would be adjacent and the

729
00:55:58.160 --> 00:56:02.240
fifth way you can do it is that you actually go narrower so that was the fourth way so the fourth

730
00:56:02.240 --> 00:56:08.000
way is you can go narrower which is say okay instead of all gyms or just micro gyms that service

731
00:56:08.000 --> 00:56:13.920
before and after as I say I only do you know ones that do weights or I only do ones that only do

732
00:56:13.920 --> 00:56:18.640
cardio right or I only do boot camps or I only do semi-private like I'd niche down even more

733
00:56:18.640 --> 00:56:22.320
the alternative is that you go broader and I say anyone that's in health and wellness

734
00:56:23.120 --> 00:56:26.480
and so those are the five ways that you can expand you can go up market you can go down market you

735
00:56:26.560 --> 00:56:30.320
go adjacent market you can go narrow you can go broad now despite me saying these five ways of

736
00:56:30.320 --> 00:56:33.520
expanding and everyone gets their juices you know their jollies off I think about how they're

737
00:56:33.520 --> 00:56:37.360
going to expand most time I'm going to start with that original story which is that you can make

738
00:56:37.920 --> 00:56:42.320
10 20 50 million dollars a year just serving one very specific avatar and the vast majority of

739
00:56:42.320 --> 00:56:46.960
businesses this is including portfolio companies that we purchased I would say I would say more than

740
00:56:46.960 --> 00:56:51.760
half the portfolio companies we've purchased we did this exercise and we made the avatar narrower

741
00:56:51.760 --> 00:56:56.720
we got more specific not broader I learned this process from Vista private equity so if you don't

742
00:56:56.720 --> 00:56:59.280
know they are there a hundred billion dollar plus private equity one of the most successful

743
00:56:59.280 --> 00:57:02.720
private equity of all time they focus on software companies and I talked to their head of pricing

744
00:57:02.720 --> 00:57:07.200
and packaging and he gave me this one line and it changed my life and he said you want to know how

745
00:57:07.200 --> 00:57:10.720
we get the crazy returns that we do and I was like yeah obviously I want to know what you guys do

746
00:57:10.720 --> 00:57:14.800
now obviously they do lots of things but the one thing that he pulled out he said we just know

747
00:57:14.800 --> 00:57:18.560
the company that we're buying customers better than they do and so we get we go into the data room

748
00:57:18.560 --> 00:57:21.360
so whenever you do an acquisition there's something called a data room you put all the data for your

749
00:57:21.360 --> 00:57:24.720
business in there so people can analyze it and make a decision about whether they want to invest

750
00:57:24.720 --> 00:57:30.320
and so we go into the data room and we analyze all their customers and we say okay we order them by

751
00:57:30.320 --> 00:57:35.360
who pays the most and who's worth the most and we say this is the 20% that does 80% of the revenue

752
00:57:35.360 --> 00:57:39.520
and what they do is they look at what channels those people come in on what offers what marketing

753
00:57:39.520 --> 00:57:46.240
those customers do and they basically stop doing the rest of the 80% and they expand that 20% to be

754
00:57:46.240 --> 00:57:50.720
100% of the business and so by doing that they can have the same size business but 5x the revenue

755
00:57:51.360 --> 00:57:56.480
and arguably even more on the profit and so just parallel the the pretto principle 8020 and they

756
00:57:56.480 --> 00:58:00.640
just apply it to the customers and so right now this is how you do it for you is you look at all the

757
00:58:00.640 --> 00:58:05.120
customers you have up to this point you look at the top 20% and you say okay what are these people

758
00:58:05.120 --> 00:58:08.720
all having common and so I like to think about this in terms of psychographics what do they think

759
00:58:08.720 --> 00:58:13.280
geographic what do they live demographics what do they look like and then I would say like actions

760
00:58:13.280 --> 00:58:16.880
like what have they done or what do they do to get this result and so when I look at each of those

761
00:58:16.880 --> 00:58:21.680
frames I try and eliminate as many variables as I can so I get to two or three variables that

762
00:58:21.680 --> 00:58:25.920
that clump all the best customers together and then I make that in my marketing and I tell my

763
00:58:25.920 --> 00:58:29.840
sales team we only sell these people going forward because I know that these people were worth 5 times

764
00:58:29.840 --> 00:58:34.800
more 10 times more and then guess what's able to happen we run ads for those people and then our

765
00:58:34.800 --> 00:58:39.360
LTV sky rocket so we can spend more to acquire customers and this is what allows you to scale by

766
00:58:39.360 --> 00:58:44.640
going narrower and so the problem is that most business owners can't say no to fast money and so

767
00:58:44.640 --> 00:58:51.120
they never get the big money and so I had two companies that came out for a workshop that we had

768
00:58:51.120 --> 00:58:56.160
and one they're both agencies is very simple example so one was a generalist agency they just did

769
00:58:56.160 --> 00:58:59.440
anybody who knocked on the door they would they would take their money the other one just did

770
00:58:59.440 --> 00:59:06.480
professional services that's legal financial insurance like those types of services and the the

771
00:59:06.480 --> 00:59:10.160
generalist guys I said okay you have this big list of customers I'm sure that there's a sub-segment

772
00:59:10.160 --> 00:59:12.960
of those customers that you do exceptionally well with they're like oh my god we crush a

773
00:59:12.960 --> 00:59:16.800
variety people and I was like okay cool so what percentage of your customers are those they're like

774
00:59:16.800 --> 00:59:21.280
8% I was like but are they more profitable about percentage and he's like oh by a mile they're

775
00:59:21.280 --> 00:59:25.840
by far the most profitable I was like okay so if you're entire business and they were really

776
00:59:25.840 --> 00:59:29.520
struggling in terms of infrastructure they're like super stressed out you could see it I was like

777
00:59:29.520 --> 00:59:32.800
if your whole business was just those do you think you'd like that business and you was like oh my

778
00:59:32.800 --> 00:59:36.240
god that'd be a breeze and I was like well then we can build that business and so that means

779
00:59:36.240 --> 00:59:39.920
that from here on out you only sell those people and over time the slight the percentage of the pie

780
00:59:39.920 --> 00:59:43.600
that's those customers is continue to increase until eventually you can cut the customers that are

781
00:59:43.600 --> 00:59:47.280
not your main thing and then in a year or two years you've completely transformed your business

782
00:59:47.280 --> 00:59:50.320
as something that's been productized you get really efficient you get even better at it because

783
00:59:50.320 --> 00:59:53.360
you only serve those customers you get better acquiring them get better servicing them you get

784
00:59:53.360 --> 00:59:56.720
higher margins and you actually like your life and so the same thing happened with the second

785
00:59:56.720 --> 01:00:00.080
agency where I said what are the customers you have they're like actually we're really good at

786
01:00:00.080 --> 01:00:04.400
specifically family law attorneys so like divorce attorneys and they had all these other things

787
01:00:04.400 --> 01:00:07.360
I was like but divorce attorneys are really good with them like yeah I was like then just sell

788
01:00:07.360 --> 01:00:11.760
divorce attorneys and because the thing is if you just sell divorce attorneys it's a multi-billion

789
01:00:11.760 --> 01:00:15.040
dollar pre-industry like there's no reason you can't do a hundred million dollars a year or two

790
01:00:15.040 --> 01:00:20.400
hundred million dollars a year just selling those people and the same with the IT so the idea is

791
01:00:20.400 --> 01:00:23.760
like people start taking on more avatars because they think that's what's necessary to grow but

792
01:00:24.720 --> 01:00:30.640
and I've said this before but better creates bigger bigger creates below and so if the goal is

793
01:00:30.640 --> 01:00:36.080
to get bigger you want to focus not on getting bigger but on getting better and then getting bigger

794
01:00:36.080 --> 01:00:43.280
occurs growth occurs as a result growth is not a goal growth is an outcome of inputs and so I'm telling

795
01:00:43.280 --> 01:00:47.760
you like it took me a very long time to understand this so I'm trying to get like every entrepreneur has

796
01:00:47.760 --> 01:00:50.880
this ego goal of like I want to hit this a month and I want that a month and I want that a month

797
01:00:50.880 --> 01:00:55.120
but the thing is just like you don't want to make the income the goal if you do it gets really hard

798
01:00:55.120 --> 01:00:58.960
to get out of that game because sometimes you take the wrong steps you artificially inflate revenue

799
01:00:58.960 --> 01:01:02.960
and then you increase costs to sustain that revenue but it was the wrong strategic move and but then

800
01:01:02.960 --> 01:01:07.440
you can't go backwards you stay in the cycle forever you don't want to do that you think okay how do I

801
01:01:07.440 --> 01:01:11.680
make the core thing that I do better because fundamentally if this were twice as good as it is now

802
01:01:11.680 --> 01:01:16.320
would I be bigger yes because your customers would demand it you get far more leverage by doing

803
01:01:16.320 --> 01:01:20.720
the same thing a hundred times than doing a hundred things one time and so the vast majority

804
01:01:20.720 --> 01:01:24.000
businesses especially when they're starting out are doing a hundred things one time rather than

805
01:01:24.000 --> 01:01:27.040
the same thing a hundred times and you get a hell of a lot better when you do something on the

806
01:01:27.040 --> 01:01:30.800
hundredth time and so that means that you drive up your operational efficiency you drive up your

807
01:01:30.800 --> 01:01:35.200
growth profit you get better at your acquisition because you're marketing messaging your sales scripting

808
01:01:35.200 --> 01:01:39.760
the results that you can promise all those things get better and now you're competing in a smaller

809
01:01:39.760 --> 01:01:43.040
pond so you can dominate everyone but when people think small pond they think that somehow that

810
01:01:43.040 --> 01:01:46.240
means that they're not going to make a lot of money like I said Jim much makes a lot of money and

811
01:01:46.240 --> 01:01:51.600
it's in a very very very narrow niche and so you just got to be more specific most times and break

812
01:01:51.600 --> 01:01:55.440
the limiting beliefs you have around the idea that like okay well I just need to go from you know

813
01:01:55.440 --> 01:02:00.080
I've saturated chiropractors right I've I've saturated this with two million dollars a year in

814
01:02:00.080 --> 01:02:04.560
revenue of course not right every single other business that exists that serves your customer the

815
01:02:04.560 --> 01:02:08.640
fact that they're allowed to be alive and breathe shows you how much opportunity you have if you were

816
01:02:08.640 --> 01:02:13.280
better than them number ten provide value now everybody talks about providing valuable what does

817
01:02:13.280 --> 01:02:16.800
that even mean all right so in in this book I talk about something called the value equation is

818
01:02:16.800 --> 01:02:20.560
probably the most cited chapter in this whole book but I break down what are the elements of value

819
01:02:20.560 --> 01:02:24.480
and so there are four number one is the dream outcome which is what does somebody actually want

820
01:02:24.480 --> 01:02:30.000
so if I were to offer like Daniel who's behind the camera right now I said hey you can get in

821
01:02:30.000 --> 01:02:34.720
shape or I can make you million dollars right making money for most men is more valuable than

822
01:02:34.800 --> 01:02:39.760
getting a better shape and so the relative opportunity or the relative outcome will dictate

823
01:02:40.320 --> 01:02:43.920
how much money you can charge that's why in general B2B offers a higher ticket now there are also

824
01:02:43.920 --> 01:02:48.240
fewer people who buy making money than people who buy consumer products so you have about one tenth

825
01:02:48.240 --> 01:02:52.480
so 9% of people are business owners so you have a much smaller market that being said does the

826
01:02:52.480 --> 01:02:56.960
the size of the market really matter based on the thing I just said probably not but again number

827
01:02:56.960 --> 01:03:00.800
one is dream outcome that's what differentiates now let's see if you've got two products that

828
01:03:00.880 --> 01:03:05.520
offer the same solution so let's say the weight loss example or the getting shape example if I

829
01:03:05.520 --> 01:03:10.320
have a PDF for that and I've got a liposuction both of them promise the same thing which is that

830
01:03:10.320 --> 01:03:13.440
you're going to get a better shape you're going to lose weight okay well then why is liposuction

831
01:03:13.440 --> 01:03:17.680
so much more expensive than a PDF that I could buy on the internet for 20 bucks they both promise

832
01:03:17.680 --> 01:03:21.280
the same outcome well there's three other variables so variable number one is the perceived

833
01:03:21.280 --> 01:03:24.720
likelihood of achievement or the risk associated with the purchase so risk would be the negative

834
01:03:24.720 --> 01:03:27.760
perceived likelihood of achievement is the positive and so we want to increase the perceived

835
01:03:27.760 --> 01:03:31.600
likelihood as much as possible so if we had that liposuction and we've got one surgeon who's

836
01:03:31.600 --> 01:03:34.960
his first day out of medical school and we've got another surgeon who's done 10,000 surgeries

837
01:03:34.960 --> 01:03:38.640
which these guys can price higher well obviously you'd want to take the 10,000 one even though it's

838
01:03:38.640 --> 01:03:42.400
the same procedure and the same outcome the perceived likelihood of you actually getting what you

839
01:03:42.400 --> 01:03:46.160
want the risk associated is lower and so you're willing to pay more for that guy because you have more

840
01:03:46.160 --> 01:03:52.880
experience the third variable of this is time delay the equal opposite of that is speed how quickly

841
01:03:52.880 --> 01:03:58.240
between when someone buys and when they get the promise that you outcome now if you do liposuction

842
01:03:58.240 --> 01:04:01.680
it's like great you make the purchase then you go to sleep and you wake up and you're thin very

843
01:04:01.680 --> 01:04:06.320
very condensed which is why it has a lot of value right whereas if you have to do all this eating

844
01:04:06.320 --> 01:04:10.160
and this exercising and not drinking and changing your diet and all this waking up early and being

845
01:04:10.160 --> 01:04:14.720
sore all this like there's a lot of there's a lot of there's a lot of delay there in terms of

846
01:04:14.720 --> 01:04:18.960
how much time and effort it's time specifically it's going to take to get the outcome you want

847
01:04:18.960 --> 01:04:24.640
so the faster it is the more valuable it is and then finally you have effort and sacrifice or

848
01:04:24.640 --> 01:04:29.040
equal opposite ease how easy can you make it and so if you're trying to think about this in simple

849
01:04:29.040 --> 01:04:33.760
terms it's how risk-free can I make it how easy can I make it how fast can I make it and is the

850
01:04:33.760 --> 01:04:37.840
thing that I'm promising the outcome that I'm promising something they actually want and so if you

851
01:04:37.840 --> 01:04:41.440
have all four of those you have something that people really want they have no risk of doing it

852
01:04:41.440 --> 01:04:46.080
it comes immediately and it's easy it's easy it's pushing a button you've got an incredibly

853
01:04:46.080 --> 01:04:50.320
valuable thing and so when people say add value what you want to think about is what is my

854
01:04:50.320 --> 01:04:55.200
customer what does my avatar want to accomplish or what do they want to avoid so you've got

855
01:04:55.760 --> 01:05:00.880
towards good stuff and away from bad stuff and say say okay I can help you avoid this bad stuff

856
01:05:00.880 --> 01:05:06.720
risk-free faster and easier than otherwise and the dream outcome the good stuff same thing again

857
01:05:06.720 --> 01:05:11.680
is how can I help you get that good stuff faster easier and risk-free and so every time you make

858
01:05:11.680 --> 01:05:15.440
content or every time you get PDF every time you make a lead magnet whatever it is or you make

859
01:05:15.440 --> 01:05:20.080
content the whole goal should be to be useful the whole goal should be to provide value and you do

860
01:05:20.080 --> 01:05:23.760
that by helping them achieve their goal which hopefully with this video helping you market better

861
01:05:23.760 --> 01:05:27.280
your business by making it risk-free so you don't have to make the mistakes I did get to your

862
01:05:27.280 --> 01:05:32.560
goal faster and get there easier so the easiest way to think okay got it well how do I find the

863
01:05:32.560 --> 01:05:36.080
problems that people are suffering from so that I can make it faster easier and risk-free for them

864
01:05:36.080 --> 01:05:40.960
great question so one is any comments that you get in in response to content that creates more

865
01:05:40.960 --> 01:05:44.320
content this is the endless content wheel it's like you make content people if questions about the

866
01:05:44.320 --> 01:05:47.040
content you make content about the questions they have questions about that question the good

867
01:05:47.040 --> 01:05:50.400
thing is that problems never end and people never stop complaining and so as long as people stop

868
01:05:50.400 --> 01:05:52.960
complaining people have problems you're always gonna have problems to solve which is one of the

869
01:05:52.960 --> 01:05:57.280
nice things about being entrepreneur you like humanity if you told us hundreds of years ago that we'd

870
01:05:57.280 --> 01:06:01.280
have the internet in our hands and we'd have air conditioning and Wi-Fi and all this stuff we'd be

871
01:06:01.280 --> 01:06:04.560
like oh my god all of our problems are solved but we have more problems now than we did before because

872
01:06:04.560 --> 01:06:08.240
we're more aware of the problems that we didn't know existed before and so whenever you solve a

873
01:06:08.240 --> 01:06:11.760
problem you create another one it's the problem solution cycle it never ends and so one is you

874
01:06:11.760 --> 01:06:14.560
can look at that the others you can look internal to your business which is what are the what are

875
01:06:14.560 --> 01:06:18.000
the things that people struggle with internal in terms of implementation for whatever the thing that

876
01:06:18.000 --> 01:06:21.600
you do is whether it's a product that you sell or a service that you sell there's some friction

877
01:06:21.600 --> 01:06:25.600
points along the way and you think okay what are the friction points and how can I make it easier

878
01:06:25.600 --> 01:06:29.760
number 11 is a fairly well known marketing saying giveaway the secrets sell the implementation

879
01:06:29.760 --> 01:06:33.520
the way that I think about this is make your free stuff better than their paid stuff and that's an

880
01:06:33.520 --> 01:06:38.560
easy ism to say but the real real is like you actually have to think if I give away something

881
01:06:38.560 --> 01:06:43.040
for free I have to be willing to charge for it and if you were willing to charge a hundred dollars

882
01:06:43.040 --> 01:06:46.960
or a thousand dollars or ten thousand dollars for the thing that you give away for free my god

883
01:06:46.960 --> 01:06:51.120
must that be valuable yes and what that does is it increases the likelihood of conversion increase

884
01:06:51.120 --> 01:06:54.960
the likelihood the person consumes the thing and then buys the next product because what a lead

885
01:06:54.960 --> 01:07:00.240
magnet is or what content is it's a complete solution to a very narrow problem and that's fundamentally

886
01:07:00.240 --> 01:07:03.920
how I think about this a lot of people are very afraid of giving away value but you shouldn't be

887
01:07:03.920 --> 01:07:07.920
give away all the secrets give away all the things that you do and then if someone wants help with

888
01:07:07.920 --> 01:07:13.200
implementation they can call you up and this allows you to provide value to the masses build your

889
01:07:13.200 --> 01:07:17.680
brand up and then they use results in advance as an approximation of the results they're going to

890
01:07:17.680 --> 01:07:22.640
get after they purchase right and so even when you're marketing in terms of making content I'd

891
01:07:22.640 --> 01:07:28.240
like to think of being okay with narrow because deep is where the dollars are all right so let me

892
01:07:28.240 --> 01:07:32.640
tell you let me tell you a couple stories about this so there was a lady who I just recently met

893
01:07:32.640 --> 01:07:40.560
who was doing just under a million dollars a year in profit profit from 5,800 followers on Instagram

894
01:07:40.560 --> 01:07:44.880
she had no other platforms she sourced a hundred percent from Instagram and this blew my mind I mean

895
01:07:44.880 --> 01:07:50.160
like I say this stuff but having having that level like it was such an extreme example of tiny

896
01:07:50.160 --> 01:07:55.600
audience big money it broke my beliefs even further than I already had them broken and when I looked

897
01:07:55.600 --> 01:08:00.160
at her page here's what's crazy it wasn't like she had crazy deep engagement either it was like

898
01:08:00.160 --> 01:08:06.240
the post you would get would get you know one five maybe ten comments on a great post and she would

899
01:08:06.240 --> 01:08:14.000
get you know ten likes twenty likes thirty likes if it was a crazy one but 100 percent of her content

900
01:08:14.000 --> 01:08:21.120
was about how registered dietitians can more accurately build insurance to make more money

901
01:08:21.120 --> 01:08:27.680
it was a niche of a niche it was literally like registered dietitians who build insurance and how to

902
01:08:27.680 --> 01:08:32.000
build insurance more effectively to make more power that was her offer and that's all she talks about

903
01:08:32.000 --> 01:08:37.040
her cheat sheets are on that and she talks about different insurance companies and how to build each

904
01:08:37.040 --> 01:08:41.680
of them the codes that you go the you plug in like like all this jargon I had no idea when I went to

905
01:08:41.680 --> 01:08:46.080
the page but for her avatar I'll bet you that of the five thousand eight hundred people that follow

906
01:08:46.480 --> 01:08:51.360
five thousand seven hundred of them were registered dietitians who were trying to find out

907
01:08:51.360 --> 01:08:56.480
what they needed to do to make more money by building insurance and so she was selling five to ten

908
01:08:57.200 --> 01:09:04.560
little cheat sheets a day like ninety-nine bucks plus two to three high ticket people per week

909
01:09:04.560 --> 01:09:10.080
into her thing into her association of registered dietitians that followed her process for billing

910
01:09:10.080 --> 01:09:14.400
and so I say this because I've also learned this personally we used to make some wider content

911
01:09:14.400 --> 01:09:18.080
for about six months we did this we did this experiment we got the data back it turned out we got

912
01:09:18.080 --> 01:09:21.680
lots of views but we didn't go lots of business owners and so we switched back to hardcore business

913
01:09:21.680 --> 01:09:25.760
stuff which I love anyway so I'm very happy about the experiment and because of that all of our

914
01:09:25.760 --> 01:09:30.240
stats are up so we have more opt-ins more people buying books more people you know going to workshops

915
01:09:30.240 --> 01:09:34.000
whatever it is more people applying the portfolio so we can invest in their companies all of those

916
01:09:34.000 --> 01:09:38.480
stats were up despite the fact that the general views per video went down and again I'm here for

917
01:09:38.480 --> 01:09:43.600
the money not for the fame and so I encourage you if you can break your attachment to the ego metrics

918
01:09:43.600 --> 01:09:47.920
like the likes and the views and things like that and just focus on the bottom line just get

919
01:09:47.920 --> 01:09:54.240
really specific on the avatar that you want to serve and make content only for them that's useful

920
01:09:54.240 --> 01:10:00.160
so I've got a buddy of mine who runs a multi-nine figure per year marketing company and he makes content

921
01:10:00.160 --> 01:10:05.040
online he has a personal brand and he was like oh dude my personal brand makes no money he's like

922
01:10:05.040 --> 01:10:11.040
but and he goes super in-depth tactical like stuff he's an SEO G and so all this stuff is like

923
01:10:11.120 --> 01:10:17.040
how to make SEO content block content things like that and his content gets like so few

924
01:10:17.600 --> 01:10:22.080
likes and engagement and he has like charts and graphs and all this data support all he does he's

925
01:10:22.080 --> 01:10:27.360
obviously really really good at this but the thing is he's his lead quality that comes from him he's

926
01:10:27.360 --> 01:10:33.120
like they're all Fortune 500 Fortune 100 CEOs executives that are like hey you obviously know

927
01:10:33.120 --> 01:10:38.160
this stuff can we just hire you and that's exactly who wants he wants he he makes it so complex he

928
01:10:38.160 --> 01:10:41.520
gives away everything and he says it he's like I give you could just follow on my stuff and do it

929
01:10:41.520 --> 01:10:45.760
most people are like man this is too much work and so they can I just hire you which is an

930
01:10:45.760 --> 01:10:52.480
exceptional way to get customers so here's how you do it in three easy steps one is you just give

931
01:10:52.480 --> 01:10:56.400
away your best stuff give it all away if you have a low ticket thing that sells to lots of people

932
01:10:56.400 --> 01:10:59.360
and you have a high ticket thing I would encourage you just give away the low ticket thing too you're

933
01:10:59.360 --> 01:11:02.640
probably not making those money on it anyways and those customers are probably paying the butt so

934
01:11:02.640 --> 01:11:05.440
just give it to him and you can even show hey I used to charge for this and give it to you for free

935
01:11:05.440 --> 01:11:09.760
because I love you all right and by doing that you make an exceptional thing and you put really

936
01:11:09.760 --> 01:11:16.240
heavy effort into follow up and cost to action within the within the content itself all right so

937
01:11:16.240 --> 01:11:20.160
within the thing that you're giving away you have CTAs and you follow up with your team to try and

938
01:11:20.160 --> 01:11:25.040
send them in the next thing if they're qualified and I'll give you a pro tip on this when you want

939
01:11:25.040 --> 01:11:30.400
to make the CTA make it about personalization not about more instead of saying hey if you want more

940
01:11:30.400 --> 01:11:35.200
stuff like this go here say hey if you want me to help apply this stuff to your business or apply

941
01:11:35.280 --> 01:11:40.000
this stuff to your body or this stuff to your life then let me know it's personalizing it because

942
01:11:40.000 --> 01:11:44.160
that is significantly more valuable than just more stuff and what's crazy is that a lot of people

943
01:11:44.160 --> 01:11:47.840
use the things they give away as an afterthought it's the last thing they think about but here's

944
01:11:47.840 --> 01:11:52.480
the crazy step is that 99% of people who consume your free thing will never buy from you which means

945
01:11:52.480 --> 01:11:56.880
that your reputation is getting made by the 99% of people not the 1% and so if you want to improve

946
01:11:56.880 --> 01:12:01.280
your reputation the marketplace make sure the stuff that you give away for free is awesome also

947
01:12:01.280 --> 01:12:04.720
make sure the stuff that you sell is awesome and if both those things sound like a four-letter word

948
01:12:04.720 --> 01:12:09.600
which is work welcome to business and so I talked earlier about going up market or getting narrower

949
01:12:09.600 --> 01:12:13.120
on the avatar that you want to serve a lot of people have down sales and I think over time I've

950
01:12:13.120 --> 01:12:18.800
gotten less and less into having down sales and more along lines of like if we have a lower avatar

951
01:12:18.800 --> 01:12:24.080
and we're down selling 10% of calls into this thing that's paid if 10% of people are buying something

952
01:12:24.080 --> 01:12:27.920
that's one 10th the price because it's a down sell then it's going to change my revenue by 1%

953
01:12:27.920 --> 01:12:31.680
I don't really care it's not even worth the headache I'd rather just give that away to hundreds of

954
01:12:31.680 --> 01:12:35.120
people for free because of the cost is free way more people will consume it and then get a higher

955
01:12:35.120 --> 01:12:40.720
percentage people to buy my next thing and I allow my marketing messaging to attract the higher

956
01:12:40.720 --> 01:12:44.720
quality customers so this allows me to go up market or narrower and give away all the other stuff so

957
01:12:44.720 --> 01:12:48.720
I can create my more qualified customers the amount of businesses that I know that one that we've

958
01:12:48.720 --> 01:12:53.680
invested in or do that we've helped simply make way more money by just giving away the thing that

959
01:12:53.680 --> 01:12:57.360
was their big headache that was a low ticket thing just so that they could focus on serving

960
01:12:57.360 --> 01:13:03.520
the best customers most times you'll make money going up market market advice number 12 all

961
01:13:03.520 --> 01:13:08.720
advertising works it's just a matter of efficiency I'm really I like I want to I want to drill

962
01:13:08.720 --> 01:13:11.760
this down people so it's the amount of time I say Facebook guys don't work for us Google ads don't

963
01:13:11.760 --> 01:13:14.800
work for us TikTok ads don't work for us direct mail doesn't work for us radio ads don't work for us

964
01:13:14.800 --> 01:13:19.600
content doesn't work for us outreach doesn't work for us fundamentally if you have a qualified

965
01:13:19.600 --> 01:13:24.800
person on the other side and you make an offer to them that solves a key problem for them if you

966
01:13:24.800 --> 01:13:29.920
can get them on the phone you can make money period so if you can rephrase the problem is I don't

967
01:13:29.920 --> 01:13:33.120
know how to make Facebook ads work for us I don't know how to make TikTok work for us I don't know

968
01:13:33.120 --> 01:13:36.240
how to make content work for us I don't know how to make outreach for us then that becomes a problem

969
01:13:36.240 --> 01:13:41.440
that you can solve now this is really important so I talked earlier about optimizing your advertising

970
01:13:41.440 --> 01:13:46.320
from front to back and that's true but when you optimize a business you optimize this from back

971
01:13:46.320 --> 01:13:53.120
to front and so the back the LTV how much you make per customer enables how much you can spend

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on the front end and so you optimize the throughput on the front end obviously because that's

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where you can get the highest returns but the engine that you can spend on that depends on how

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much you make per customer and so you can either be really really really exceptional at lowering

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cack or really really good at increasing LTV and if you do both you have huge arbitrage and that's

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where you make stupid money and so let's go through hypothetical let's say that you sold something

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that was a billion dollar thing okay if you had a billion dollars in gross profit that you'd make

978
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from one sale you could reach a lot of people on earth and just to give you context on this if I

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wanted to become a a-list celebrity I've back calculated what I believe it cost to become an a-list

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celebrity it was about 50 million dollars and the way that I calculated that was I thought what

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person went from complete obscuring so knowing who they were obscurity to omnipresence or some

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like that everybody knew and so the simplest example are people who were no name actors who become

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the star of a big Marvel hit and so what I did was I said okay how many of these have I seen

984
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what was the movie budget now you have to divide that by the other characters in the show or in the

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in the movie and between the big block busters where we had to you think about like the hunger games

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girl right I can't remember a name right now but that girl like the marketing budget for those

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types of films and you say okay with fifty million dollars she went from no knowing who she was

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to being famous and so for fifty million dollars you can reach so much of America and so I use

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this as a hypothetical because if you had something that you sold for a billion dollars you could

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spend that and still make twenty to one and so the idea is yes we optimize our advertising from

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front to back we put our effort on the front but in terms of where our our LTV comes from we work

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from back to front so that we can spend more on the front end a big problem in terms of efficiency

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is that oftentimes if you are if you do start running ads profitably for example you reach some

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sort of ceiling you're like hey we can't we can't get past a thousand dollars day hey we can't

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get past ten thousand dollars day we can't get past a hundred thousand dollars day whatever it is

996
01:15:48.800 --> 01:15:52.480
right usually it's because the ads that you have aren't good enough to reach the next level

997
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of awareness so Eugene Schwartz in breakthrough advertising talked about something called five levels

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of awareness and so they go from unaware somebody has no idea who you are what the problem is or

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anything just unaware the next level is problem aware that's where you see ads that are like having

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trouble sleeping at night do you have back pain when you lean over like things like that they ask

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open-end questions that make someone aware of the problem underneath of that is solution where

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have you tried this before have you tried this before this is where someone knows the solutions

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that potentially exist then you have product aware which is them advertise you advertising your

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own product like okay have you tried like my product before and let me talk you about this and then

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finally you have most aware which is usually passed in existing customers and so there's a five

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levels of awareness and so most times smaller advertisers beginner advertisers get returns

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marketing to most aware right if you email your list or you make a post or you send out message

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an email right those are your most aware people so you can make sales from that for almost no

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money one degree above that is like okay or other other people are in the market that's product

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where they're looking they're looking for something to solve a specific problem right and they're

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aware of the options that are out there and you market them so you have to be a little bit better

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to market those people than to just your existing customers now if you go one level above that

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right solution whereas that they know that there are people who are solving this problem they don't

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know how they're solving the problem they know that there is a solution that exists and so you have

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to have another order of magnitude improvement of your ads and the hooks to call out those people

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and so most times the problem isn't that your market isn't big enough it's that your ads aren't

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good enough and they're not specific enough to hit this next massive tranche of the audience and I

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say this with our largest company in the portfolio is about a hundred million dollars a year and we

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01:17:24.480 --> 01:17:29.120
spend millions of dollars a month in advertising and we go to the most unaware people we go to

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people who have no idea that you know this product or this problem exists we actually have to make

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01:17:34.000 --> 01:17:37.840
them aware of the problem and then we make them aware of the opportunity to solve it and then we

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have to make them aware of the problem we have to take them through all the stages of awareness

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in a very short period of time and that is comes from a very well crafted ad and so I have this saying

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that I have internal which is that the size of the plane is directly correlated with the length of

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01:17:49.760 --> 01:17:53.680
the runway the bigger the plane the longer the runway and so if you want to sell very expensive

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01:17:53.680 --> 01:17:59.840
thing or you want to sell a very cold person so the price and the the coldness or how aware

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01:17:59.840 --> 01:18:03.920
the person is so the longest sale possible would be someone who's completely unaware for a very

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01:18:03.920 --> 01:18:08.800
expensive thing right the shortest sale possible would be someone who's very aware for a very cheap

1029
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thing and so the amount of runway the amount of selling the amount of advertising that you have to

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do to get someone through these stages is directly proportional to those two things and if you're

1031
01:18:16.560 --> 01:18:21.200
having trouble scaling it usually means that this is mismatched you're trying to you're sending a

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warm message to a cold audience or you're getting people on the phone who aren't prepared to spend

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01:18:25.680 --> 01:18:28.880
a huge amount of money they haven't been warmed up enough and so it's making sure that we're

1034
01:18:28.880 --> 01:18:33.680
hitting each of these boxes for the audience that we're starting to target and so as you go to a new

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01:18:33.680 --> 01:18:38.240
tranche of let's say you go from a solution where to problem aware so it's a it's a bigger area right

1036
01:18:38.240 --> 01:18:42.400
and so think about these concentric circles like a pizza like the area of the pizza you know like a

1037
01:18:42.400 --> 01:18:46.480
pizza that's this big if you take an inch off it's almost the same size as a as a two inch pizza in

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01:18:46.480 --> 01:18:50.800
the middle like the the diameter circumference whatever it is I've probably failed geometry the point

1039
01:18:50.800 --> 01:18:55.600
is is that it just gets bigger and exponentially bigger as you go out and so

1040
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this is a weird visual that I have for this but if you think about a watermelon slice

1041
01:19:01.600 --> 01:19:05.920
and at the tip there's lots of seeds and as you go down there's fewer seeds but you still have to pay

1042
01:19:05.920 --> 01:19:09.840
the same amount to reach all these eyeballs to find the few seeds versus in the beginning when you

1043
01:19:09.840 --> 01:19:15.520
have lots of seeds so your density of sales per thousand eyeballs goes down as you go to more unaware

1044
01:19:15.520 --> 01:19:19.600
people because you're gonna go to people who just simply don't care and never will care but you

1045
01:19:19.600 --> 01:19:24.000
have to and this is where the LTV matter so much and the optimization matter so much but you still

1046
01:19:24.000 --> 01:19:29.440
if you can be profitable in a larger trance that's 10 or 100 times as big that's when you start

1047
01:19:29.440 --> 01:19:34.000
really printing money right and so if you have call it 20 to 1 LTV to catch in the beginning when

1048
01:19:34.000 --> 01:19:37.200
you have lots of little seeds lots of density of potential buyers because it's really warm really

1049
01:19:37.200 --> 01:19:42.000
problem aware or really really solution or product aware right like really high end as you go down

1050
01:19:42.000 --> 01:19:47.680
you might drop to five to one in the middle you might drop to three to one at scale but you're at

1051
01:19:47.680 --> 01:19:52.560
a hundred times the spend and so in that case you're still making way more absolute return on the

1052
01:19:52.560 --> 01:19:57.920
investment another way to think about this is like a golf course and so if you could only put

1053
01:19:57.920 --> 01:20:01.760
then you're gonna only make six inch putts that's only the top little seeds of the watermelon

1054
01:20:01.760 --> 01:20:07.920
but think about how much more area if you learn how to drive and you learn how to hit a three iron

1055
01:20:07.920 --> 01:20:11.200
I'm not very good at golf you can obviously tell and then you hit learn how to hit a wedge there's

1056
01:20:11.200 --> 01:20:15.760
so many more shots that you can make if you have these other skills in your arsenal and so think

1057
01:20:15.760 --> 01:20:19.440
about each of the levels of awareness as another club that you have to learn how to hit

1058
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so that you can get more balls in the hole from any part of the course marketing advice number 13

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we need to be reminded more than we need to be taught and I think this is one that's gonna break

1060
01:20:27.600 --> 01:20:30.800
a lot of your beliefs and so I'm gonna I want to really emphasize this one because it's important

1061
01:20:32.000 --> 01:20:35.920
once you start making content once you start running ads and you start putting stuff out publicly

1062
01:20:35.920 --> 01:20:39.440
start advertising you're gonna get to a point where you're like I feel like I've said everything

1063
01:20:39.440 --> 01:20:44.640
that I was going to say now remember you continue to live life every day you continue to do stuff

1064
01:20:44.640 --> 01:20:48.960
and you can talk about what you did so that can break that but my mom said this to me once and I

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01:20:48.960 --> 01:20:53.520
I always I always remember it she said the news never changes just the names and I really thought

1066
01:20:53.520 --> 01:20:57.360
about that it was like there's always a rape there's a war there's a murder there's a car accident

1067
01:20:57.360 --> 01:21:02.240
like the actual story doesn't change only the names and so if you think about that with content like

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there is no new content like the human condition is not changed for thousands of years like the

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older the problem the older the solution and so we are making content and we're putting stuff out

1070
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and when I think about myself the things that I follow like I follow philosophy pages because I am

1071
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okay rereading epictetus to stuff like I read a stuff before and I read it in quote form again

1072
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and when it comes up again I like to be reminded I like to keep the stuff top of mind that's why

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I follow those pages and many people follow your pages for that exact same reason is that the

1074
01:21:32.320 --> 01:21:35.680
stuff you talk about is stuff that they want to keep top of mind they want to be reminded of that

1075
01:21:35.680 --> 01:21:39.680
stuff and getting taught is much more difficult than being reminded but they're equally valuable

1076
01:21:39.680 --> 01:21:44.000
because it changes their behavior then you still did teach them again you just reminded them

1077
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and what's crazy about this is that like the friend show right now if you've ever heard of it is

1078
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being watched more now than it was a few years ago so reruns like people watch reruns because

1079
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there's nostalgia or whatever reasons you want to pick to it but people are willing to rewatch

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the same thing because they know how it ends they know they liked it and so you can make the same

1081
01:22:06.560 --> 01:22:11.840
thing again because also your audience who's new a year later hasn't seen that thing and so if

1082
01:22:11.840 --> 01:22:16.800
you make something new to them even though it's quote old or reminder to your existing audience

1083
01:22:16.800 --> 01:22:20.400
your existing audience doesn't mind the reminder and the new people never saw us begin with

1084
01:22:20.400 --> 01:22:24.480
and if you want to have different ways of creating variety even around the same topics I would

1085
01:22:24.480 --> 01:22:30.240
encourage you instead of thinking of getting into trend hacking and talking about the news talk

1086
01:22:30.240 --> 01:22:34.320
about your news so it's about what are the new things that are happening now this is the

1087
01:22:34.320 --> 01:22:40.240
duepic stuff talk about what you did and so this is where we tell new stories to explain the same

1088
01:22:40.240 --> 01:22:44.640
concept because for that specific audience you'll reach a different type of person or different

1089
01:22:44.640 --> 01:22:49.920
avatar that still might be within your market with a story about a mother and daughter versus a father

1090
01:22:49.920 --> 01:22:55.040
and a son versus a military vet versus a small business owner right there are different avatars and

1091
01:22:55.040 --> 01:22:59.600
you can tell the same story but it happens to a different name just like the news and people still

1092
01:22:59.600 --> 01:23:04.720
watch the news every single day and then we want us them to watch our news you can tell the same

1093
01:23:04.720 --> 01:23:09.360
concept like the value equation the value equation I explained in my book I also have a course on

1094
01:23:09.360 --> 01:23:13.040
my site that I explained the value equation in a different format so think about it in terms of

1095
01:23:13.040 --> 01:23:17.840
formats this is written I have an audio I've got videos that are my site that in a course format

1096
01:23:17.840 --> 01:23:22.560
I'm mentioning it here now I have it on whiteboards that I've explained it I've applied it to

1097
01:23:22.560 --> 01:23:27.680
services I've applied it to education I've applied it to physical products I've applied it to

1098
01:23:27.680 --> 01:23:32.480
software and so you can take the same idea and think how can I display it in new formats new

1099
01:23:32.480 --> 01:23:37.760
mediums and new contexts and so when you have that and then you extrapolate on top the news of

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01:23:37.760 --> 01:23:43.280
your life even though you feel like it's saying the same thing the amount that it takes to create

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01:23:43.280 --> 01:23:47.520
something novel is very small and so I'll tell you the story that I think will wrap this up with

1102
01:23:47.520 --> 01:23:53.200
the story of Henry Ford and so Henry Ford had in his office he does marketing person right next

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01:23:53.200 --> 01:23:56.560
to him so he walked past the market over and over and over again and this is back in the day when

1104
01:23:56.560 --> 01:24:00.080
they like didn't have computer screen so it's just like they had mock ups and like big posters

1105
01:24:00.080 --> 01:24:04.320
and things like that for whatever the next ad campaign for a new Ford car was and so you walk past

1106
01:24:04.320 --> 01:24:08.800
this guy's office for three months and the end of the three months he was like hey John why don't

1107
01:24:08.800 --> 01:24:12.960
we gonna stop running this out I'm so sick of it and John the marketing director looked at me said

1108
01:24:12.960 --> 01:24:17.200
we haven't even started running it yet and so the thing is is that we get so much sicker of our

1109
01:24:17.200 --> 01:24:21.840
own content before our audience even remembers your name and so the thing is is that we assume that

1110
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every person consumes every piece of content you ever put out we put out 50 plus pieces of content

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01:24:26.720 --> 01:24:30.960
I'm grateful if somebody watches one a week right and so the idea here is that like you put out

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significantly more but we have this assumption that everyone's paying attention and no one is

1113
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and so we put out tons of volume with the hope that we catch one person on that one day and you

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might have made I might have made four things about the value equation actually you can give me good

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01:24:42.080 --> 01:24:46.320
feedback so it would be good if you haven't heard about the value equation whatsoever in my content

1116
01:24:46.320 --> 01:24:51.040
up to this point drop a comment because I want to prove that this even though I've talked about

1117
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in a zillion formats some of you guys didn't even know how to book right people need to be reminded

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more than need to be taught hey guys real quick at acquisition.com our whole mission is to make real

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business education accessible for everyone it would mean the world to me if you helped us accomplish

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that mission by sharing the show if you can share the show on your Instagram story or whatever it

1121
01:25:08.960 --> 01:25:12.720
is that you post content you can tag me in it I'm sharing as many back to my stories that possibly

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can it mean a lot thank you
