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Real Life presents the Jack Hibbs podcast with intention and boldness to proclaim

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truth, equip the saints and impact our culture. Listen, if you want religion,

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something bless you. I can't say God bless you. If you want religion, you're in

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the wrong place. Go to some other place. But if you want to take God up on this

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challenge who says to us, I want to know you personally. Like I spoke with Moses

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face to face, I want to have a relationship with you like that. And God does that in

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the Word of God, the Bible. That's where you'll see the face of God, the Bible.

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You can get the outlines of this podcast by going to Jackhibbs.com slash podcast.

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Today, if this podcast lifts you up and encourages you to live a more fulfilled life in

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Christ, then make sure you leave us one of those five star ratings. To us, that's

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like saying, Amen or yes, then that rating will encourage others to listen. Now, open

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your hearts to what God's Word has to say to you. Here is Jackhibbs.

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So when we talk about being indebted to God, the more that we are indebted to God,

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the more free we are in this world and more liberated we are from the things of this

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life. And in Romans chapter 13, verse 8, the Bible says, Oh, no man, anything except

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to love one another. Now, let me just say this. When it says, Oh, no one anything, it

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doesn't mean that you can't take out a loan on a house. It doesn't mean that you can't

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take out a loan on a car. If you've got to do that and in this culture of ours, you

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probably do have to do that. But when the scripture says, Oh, no one, anything, it means

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that we are not to be indebted to someone. So for example, if somebody says here, I'll

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loan you a thousand bucks, but there's a hook to it. You know, I'm talking about everybody.

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Well here I look, didn't I loan you that money? They are playing upon something that you

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and I handed to them. And that is the power to control us. When the Bible says, don't

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owe any man anything. We're talking about don't owe in regards to what is known as an

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unsecured loan. You get that? For example, say, well, if I play that verse of my life,

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I can't buy a house. That's not true. A home was a secured loan. That means if you don't

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make your payments, what happens? The bank gets your house. They come out, okay. But

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there's not what we're talking about. It doesn't mean that you don't bless your brothers

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and sisters when called upon. It means this, though, that we live an absolute freedom to

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the point that what I owe you is one thing. Oh, and that one thing is everything. What I owe

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you is the love that Christ loves you with. It's the love that God loves me with. That's what

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I'm to love you with. So oh, no man, anything except this, which is the greatest thing of

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all, to love you like Jesus loves you. Man, I tell you, that's the challenge, isn't it? It's

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not easy to love everybody coming into the parking lot, leaving the parking lot. You know

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that's true. You're going to be tested. You're going to be tested on all fronts and you're

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to love one another. And it's a fun experiment, by the way. I saw it happen less Wednesday

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night. As I was leaving, driving, you know, there seems to be this international rule. It's

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not written down. But when you're leaving a congested area, people get into the rhythm of letting

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every other car go. And then there's that other person that refuses to do that. And you

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see that. And I'm sorry. I don't know if I'm having fun with it or if I'm carnal about

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it. Or maybe God is using me as an instrument to help them grow. But it's every other, every

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other. And then I see this guy just going like this. And then so I just kind of want to

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get up there to just kind of see what's going to go on. And I don't need that spot. I'm

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just the next car up. But they won't give it up. What's going on? So I will pray, Lord,

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speak to them about loving one another. We're to prefer the other above ourselves. Oh, what

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another, the love of God, the death that you are you and I are now living. And we will

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live out for all eternity is owing God. All of our praise and worship and thanks give

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him an adoration for who he is and the granger of who God is. He's absolutely amazing. And

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he purchased heaven for you and I with his blood. He's inviting you to come to heaven.

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He wants you to know his son Jesus personally. You can't buy that. You can't barter for

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that. You can't make any deals. God wants you to come. The Bible tells us in Galatians

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chapter 4 verse 19, my little children for whom I labor in birth again until Christ is

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formed in you. Morphoo is the Greek word to shape, sculpt, form, mold, chisel. God is

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chiseling you and I he's sanding us until the desired image is achieved. That's what

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God does and the work that he's doing. It's called sanctification. And the book of Romans

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is written to the Christian today. Maybe you're not a Christian today and you're wondering,

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what are you talking about? Well, there's no way for you to understand what I'm talking

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about without God giving you understanding. Paul is speaking to the Roman believers and

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he's saying to the Christians, this is what God is doing. He's reminding you that you

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are to stand indebted to God in all things and in that comes true freedom. But this

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word formed is actually a biblical doctrine as I mentioned a moment ago that we experience

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every day as a believer and that is sanctification. And it's going to happen in your life every

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day. Church family, listen, today there may be a bit of a reprieve from the dynamic of your

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life, the pressures. All of us are under and there's things coming and you're thinking, oh,

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when's this coming and I got this thing or whatever it might be? Just know this. Don't answer

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out loud. Are you a committed believer to the Lord Jesus Christ? I'm not asking if you're

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sinless, nobody's sinless. But are you pursuing Christ? The great truth about that reality is

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going to be lived out. You can mark it and that will be that there's going to be things that are

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rise in your life that will demand or require chiseling by the master sculptor and that's God

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almighty. And he will chisel on you through the hardships of life, sanding, shaping. What's he

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doing that for? He's making us like Jesus. The Bible says in Ephesians 2, verse 10, for we are his

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workmanship created in Christ Jesus for good works. Listen, God's got this. He made you to live a

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life in Christ that's for good works. He said, Jack, I just thought you said religion. I'm not

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talking about religion. I'm talking about a true Christian life that is filled with good works.

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Did you see some of the good works today in the announcements? You want to bring in stuff to

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help the kids back to school? You want to get involved to save baby's lives? You want to protect

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families? Oh, yes, yes, I do. I want to do good works, pastor. Well, you know what? To do good

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works is not just limited to one area of life. It's not only that you help your neighbor with

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their trash cans. It's also you got to sometimes call your state senator and say, we don't want

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our kids taken from us. That's good works. Don't person out. You can't separate it, but that

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verse in Ephesians 2, 10 goes on to say, which God prepared before him that we should walk in them.

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Everybody, are you guys awake? Yes. Look at this. We are his poema is the word in the Greek. God

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has written a poem in search your name created in Christ Jesus for good works. That's your mission.

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How do we do that? What do we do, God? Which, listen, God prepared beforehand that we should walk

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in them. Whoever you are today, if you are a believer in the Lord Jesus Christ, God is engineer

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your footsteps to live a life of good works that honors him because you are saved. You don't

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do that to get saved. You are saved. Our community should know us by our good works.

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Somebody said not too long ago, that church, all that church does is stand up against stuff.

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It's all they are, they're against things. And I heard that and I told the person, I said, listen,

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if you know that person, go back and tell them this. The things that we're standing up against,

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they should be standing up against with us, side by side. Think about that. When things are

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dangerous, we should stand up. Isn't it funny when you walk around buildings or you're in an

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elevator, it says pull this alarm in case of fire. Can you imagine if there's a fire, nobody pulls

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the alarm? Crazy. You want to be like that. Real joy, real happiness, the real life that Jesus

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gives us. John chapter 12 verse 25, Jesus said, he who loves his life will lose it. Listen up,

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everybody. It's a pastor. This is kind of spooky. What are you talking about? Jesus says, whoever

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loves his life will lose it. In other words, if you live for your own pleasure, your own self-seeking

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ways. At the end, you lose. Remember the sticker he who dies with the most toys wins?

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Not true. And he who hates his life or sets his life back as priority in this world will keep it

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for eternal life. For anyone who serves me, let him follow me and where I am there, my servant will

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be also, if anyone serves me, him, my father will honor. That's a pretty beautiful statement.

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Pretty crystal clear. I'm indebted to God now. You see this. If I name the name of Jesus,

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I've got to come before him and I say, Lord, I've just read in Romans chapter 8, I'm indebted to you.

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Live your life through me. I don't want to live my life anymore. I want to make sure that as of

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this moment, moment, I'm dead and you live in me. All of my interests, all of my demands,

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and look, we all have them. I'm concerned, like you are, I trust in the age in which we live in,

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where people, I think, have emotionally-based theology more than,

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vividly-based theology. Well, listen, it manifests like this, and by the way, it's extremely

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heretical. It's very demonic, and part of its demonic trick is that you don't realize this,

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and it sounds like this. You know, I feel that the Lord would want me to be happy.

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That's demonic. It's not that God doesn't want you to be happy. God wants you to have joy.

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But see, when you break that down, see, what do you mean God wants you happy? Well, I think I'd

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be happier with that woman's husband. I think I would be happier if I just crushed that person

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at the company and had their job instead. Well, I know the Bible says this, but the Lord told me,

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the moment you hear that, you've got a wild one on your hands. But listen, these people walk in

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and out of churches. Not even saved. They look to themselves for guidance. They're indebted to

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their own desires. They don't have to be obviously evil and sensual passions and desires are

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outward displays of evil. They can be internal, very moral, but we want to be very careful.

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Well, Jesus is announcing to us a remarkable transformation of debt. I just want to read this to

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you. It's a lengthy read. It's important to me. So I'll be mechanical about it.

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Regarding you and I in our lives at this moment in this age, our human body, these bodies that

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you and I have, they are a vehicle by which you and I do, how about this? A will. Someone's will

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is done through my human body, your human body. In some way, shape or form, think about

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Jepetto. Remember Jepetto and Pinocchio and didn't Jepetto make that guy and he was supposed to be

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the little puppet. Pinocchio, you move them. Can I submit to you and I know this is crude, but

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there's something manipulating you. That's something maybe that you're aware of and it could be

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even be you, your will, my will, manipulating me, the decisions I make, the things that I do.

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I'm the one doing it. Or there's God that is moving you in life.

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And whichever reality is being lived out in your life is going to be known by others. It

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will be seen. It becomes obvious. Here's a huge scripture read and you can follow along with me on

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the screens. Starting at Matthew 15 verse 1, then the scribes and Pharisees who were from Jerusalem

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came to Jesus saying, why do your disciples transgress the traditions of the elders? You gotta

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mark that. Traditions of the elders. You can insert this. Why do your disciples transgress the

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denominational rules and regulations of our denomination? For they do not wash their hands when

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they eat bread. These guys are these guys for real. These are the sin sniffers and the fault

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finders of life. Hey, you don't wash your hands. That's against our denominational rules.

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What's this? He Jesus answered and said to them, why do you also transgress the commandment of

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God because of your tradition? Yeah, you gotta love how he comes back and stuff like this.

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For God commanded saying, on your father and your mother, and he who cursed his father and mother

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let him be put to death, hypocrites, well did Isaiah prophesy about you saying, these people draw

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near to me with their mouth and honor me with their lips, but their heart is far from me and

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in vain they worship me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men. When he had called them

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multitude to himself, he said to them, here and understand, it is not what goes in the mouth

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that defiles a man, but what comes out of the mouth that defiles a man. Then his disciples came

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to him and said, do you know that the Pharisees were offended when they heard this saying,

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but Jesus answered and said to them, every plant which my heavenly father has not planted will be

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uprooted. Let them alone. Those three words out of the mouth of Jesus are terrifying. Friends,

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family listen, do you know anyone possibly in your life that God is saying, let them alone.

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They know it, they know it, they've heard it, they know it, they won't receive it. This is Jesus

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speaking, mild manner, Jesus, this is Jesus, the lover of souls, there comes a point when he says,

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let them alone, they are blind leaders of the blind and if the blind leads the blind, they'll both

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fall into the ditch and then Peter answered instead of them, explain this parable to us and

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Jesus said, are you also without understanding? Do you not yet understand that whatever enters

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the mouth goes out of the stomach and it is eliminated, but those things which proceed out of the

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mouth speak from the heart, they defile a man, for out of the heart proceed evil thoughts,

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murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies, verse 20, these are the

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things which defile the man, but to eat with unwashed hands does not defile a man. These guys

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who are saying, oh no, how could your disciples do this? You're talking about illegalist

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friends, you're talking about people who say, this is the way to heaven, we'll tell you how and this

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is what you'll do. Reminding yourself that we are indebted to God and no man, I mean that humbly

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but directly, I'm trying to make it very, very clear, we are so indebted to God that we so to speak

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live on our knees and thanks and praise to him, but listen, Paul the Apostle taught us that no man

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on earth is worthy or able to judge us as we walk with Christ. Think about that for a moment.

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And I don't have the right to judge anybody else for that matter, but the point is this,

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I'm to live after God focused on God and totally indebted to God and if that really happens in our

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lives, I can eat a hot dog or fish taco without washing my hands. I do not have to go through the

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five steps of ceremonial cleansings, are you with me, and procedures to obtain a level of membership

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in my spiritual community whereby now I can be the one who gets the badge and walks around saying,

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I am more spiritual than you are. Those are the traditions of men, never become indebted

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to their religion of man.

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