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Real Life presents the Jack Hibb's podcast with intention and boldness to proclaim truth,

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equip the saints and impact our culture.

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I think God has given us time to repent, time for us to repent.

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He's not calling non-believers to repent, he's calling the church to repent and get back,

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we need to learn how to endure.

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Listen, when rough times hit, it doesn't mean God left us, it means He's getting us

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ready.

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You can get the outlines of this podcast by going to jackhibbs.com slash podcast.

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Today, if this podcast lifts you up and encourages you to live a more fulfilled life in Christ,

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then make sure you leave us one of those five star ratings.

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To us, that's like saying amen or yes, then that rating will encourage others to listen.

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Now, open your hearts to what God's word has to say to you, here is Jack Hibb's.

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The church of the last days must be a church known for its discernment, more specifically

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discernment of evil.

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See, Jack, what is discernment?

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Discernment is a supernatural ability that the Holy Spirit gives to every believer, listen,

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which comes from the Word of God.

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This is where discernment comes.

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You're not going to have discernment unless you're reading the Bible.

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The more you walk with Jesus, the greater discernment you get.

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In fact, it's kind of cool.

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The Christians will know what I'm talking about when I say this.

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You're not like Superman had like X-ray vision, right?

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Didn't Superman have X-ray vision?

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So he's like, you know, he can see stuff going on.

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That's us.

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The more we walk with Jesus, the more that we can see things.

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People will say something and everyone goes, that's amazing.

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We're going, hmm, something's wrong.

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Do you know what I'm talking about?

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What does that come from?

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First John says, you and I have been given the Holy Spirit and we have no need that any

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man should teach us that we know what the Spirit of God is speaking, remarkable.

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And we need to be a church that's discerning.

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And so the church at Pergamum, the word Pergamum means high or elevated above all others.

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By the way, my wife and I, we were in Berlin, of all places, Berlin, Germany.

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And guess what they have there?

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They have the museum of Pergamum.

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And inside is the temple of Pergamum.

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And inside or on the temple of Pergamum is the seat of Satan.

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And when Germany invaded Europe, they took that from Turkey and they brought it to Germany

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and they built a museum around it.

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And now the Turks, by the way, want it back.

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And Germany said no.

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And that was the end of the discussion.

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You can go if you're in Berlin, go check it out.

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All these biblical references, it's an actual national museum.

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And you can jump up and down and turn in your Bible and say, my Bible talks about this.

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And as you're walking up the steps, by the way, all of these mythological gods, Athena,

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Atlas, Zeus, they're all there enshrined.

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And it was seated high above.

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And the citizens of Pergamum thought that they were better than everybody else.

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They're not only above in elevation, but we're above everybody else.

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That attitude permeates the human soul.

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Revelation chapter 2, verse 12, and to the angel of the church of Pergamum is right.

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These things says, he who has the sharp two-edged sword, I know your works and where you dwell,

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where Satan's throne is.

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And you hold fast to my name and did not deny my faith, verse 14, but I have a few things

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against you because you have those who hold the doctrine of veilum, deception, preaching,

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religion, for hire, for money, pay me, I'll preach.

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Hey, come into town, we're looking for a venue.

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You know how much mail we get from people?

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This church.

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Hey, Apostle Dingdong is coming to Southern California for $10,000.

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You can have them in your church too, I'm not joking you.

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Remarkable.

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It's like, man, if they read the letter to the church of Pergamum, remarkable.

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Verse 15 says, you also have those who hold to the doctrine of the Nicolayotans, the

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Lord's religious lords over the people, rulers over the Laiati, Nicolayotans, which things

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I hate, Jesus said, wow, Jesus hates, Jesus hates an authoritative church leadership

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structure that says, we're above you, you listen to us.

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That makes Jesus want a hurl.

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You know what a hurl means?

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That's an ancient word.

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And make someone a vomit, make someone a throw up.

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Jesus says, I hate that.

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We are your leaders.

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We are your leaders.

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You cannot marry that person, you cannot buy that house, you cannot get that job until

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you talk to us.

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I want you to know, Jesus says, that makes me sick.

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I hope you're not involved in a church like that.

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He rebukes them.

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He says, listen, wow, verse 16, repent, where I will come upon you quickly and fight against

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Notice it's them.

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Jesus is not chastising the sheep, he's chastising the leadership.

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Can you imagine Jesus coming after you quickly to fight against you?

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I'm wondering if in America today, in California, that God is fighting against, watch my air quotes,

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pastors and Christian leaders in our nation today, who've had jurisdiction over a flock

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for so many years, but that flock knows nothing.

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They went to church in and out, faithful, tithing, maybe even serving, and something shakes

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that church's foundation.

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That's from God, friends, when God shakes a church, that's a good thing.

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We had a horrible split at our church, oh, don't cry about it.

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God will wind up shaking the tree and nuts will fall out.

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No, that's what they do.

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This little tractor comes up and grabs the almond tree and just goes, and the almond

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fall down.

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God, listen, God does that to the church.

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He just did it in COVID, shook the church and all the nuts fell out and many, but the

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fruit remained, did it not?

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The fruit remains.

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We need discernment like never before.

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By the way, you picked up on it immediately in Hebrews chapter 4, verse 12.

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The Bible says of the Bible that the Word of God is sharper than any two.

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It's sword, and Jesus says, I'm the sword, I'm the one, I'm the Word of God.

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I'll search the heart, I'll parse in between the motives and the intentions, and oh, by

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the way, I judge ministries, that's what he's saying.

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It's his church.

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Many of you know that I got in a lot of trouble and I'll do it again based on the Word of

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God.

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You got to keep your church closed.

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You say, wait a minute, Jesus said to me, I was studying, in fact, my computer is in

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the back room, I showed some of the guys that April 26th when God spoke to my heart, May 31st.

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I grabbed my sharpie pin and I wrote on my computer, May 31st.

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Lord, what is this?

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And he said to me, you have no authority to shut the doors of my church.

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What he does, listen, the church of the last days is this, it's a church known for its

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decision to endure.

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We've got to endure, friends, don't worry, the things that are coming against you.

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The church of Thyatira was a word that means truth, sacrifice, or dedicated truth.

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It's an interesting thing.

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They had the truth, but they sacrificed the truth, and today you can fill in the word

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with anything else.

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But we sacrifice the truth for unity.

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Never do that.

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Well, we're a church of unity.

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What does that mean?

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We're a church, we're all are welcome, but what does that mean?

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All are welcomed here.

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We're a church of tolerance, but the gospel demands that we repent of our sins and put

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our faith in Jesus Christ, and he's promised to save us.

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Listen, he loves us so much that he doesn't leave us like we are.

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The gospel transforms our lives.

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You need to remember, we need to remind ourselves, we are to endure.

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It's okay.

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We live in Southern California, we don't know much about endurance.

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We got it easy for now, right?

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California seems to be skating.

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I tell you what, California is cruising on the mercy of God at this moment.

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I think God has given us time to repent, time for us to repent.

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He's not calling non-believers to repent, he's calling the church to repent and get back,

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we need to learn how to endure.

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Listen, when rough times hit, it doesn't mean God left us, it means he's getting us ready.

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We must be a church known for its total dependence upon God.

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It's total dependence upon God.

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That was the church at Sardis.

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The word Sardis means remnant or little in number.

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Many of us feel that way often, but we're not.

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Sardis was an extremely wealthy place.

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Have you ever heard of Cresus, the old saying, oh, that guy says, riches, Cresus, Cresus,

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that was his hometown.

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He was the richest man known in the region in the realm, Cresus, very, very wealthy place.

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But the believers were very few, a number, think about that.

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You and I live in a wealthy place.

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But I'm wondering how many true believers do we really have?

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It's easy for us to be led astray by trusting in what we have.

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The Sardis believers had to lean upon him.

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The Bible tells us there that Jesus spoke to the church at Sardis and he announced to

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them, therefore, if you will not watch, I will come upon you as a thief and you will

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not know what hour I will come upon you.

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You have a few names even in Sardis who have not defiled their garments and they shall

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walk with me in white for they are worthy.

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He who overcomes shall be clothed in white garments and I will not blot out his name from

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the book of life, but I will confess his name before my father and before his angels.

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Isn't that a beautiful, awesome statement?

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You may be few in number, but let me tell you, Jesus is saying, keep yourself clean.

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Every day church family wake up every day and say, Lord, give me the Holy Spirit's power

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to keep my spirit clean.

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I love that because if your spirits clean before the Lord, you don't have to worry about

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your eyes, your hands, and your feet.

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If your spirits clean before God, your feet, and your eyes, and your hands will follow,

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but when your hands, and your eyes, and your feet are in charge, other things happen.

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We need to be a church in these last days unwavering in our priorities.

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Each family, the Word of God, must not be superseded by anything.

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And to this, the church at Philadelphia is the church that you want to be.

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Philadelphia means brotherly love, brotherly love, located in such an area that was a very

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powerful place and an example.

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It was a missionary church, by the way.

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It was dedicated to getting into the Word of God out.

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Every single one of us, listen, God showed us from the beginning of this church.

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And we used to start plant churches right from the beginning in Russian and in Germany.

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Right from the beginning in the very early 90s, the point was this.

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God made it very clear, Jack, there's only two types of people that make up the body

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of Christ.

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There's senders, and there's goers.

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Think about that.

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You say, I don't want to go to, I was going to say Detroit, but I just met someone here

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from Detroit.

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I don't want to be a missionary to Detroit.

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Thank God for the missionaries in Detroit.

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But you might say, oh, if I open myself up, God might send me to Cuba or to Bangladesh

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or something.

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Listen, if God's not calling you to Bangladesh, you're going to know it.

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You're not going to want to go.

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If God's calling you to Bangladesh, you keep looking at your globe.

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You keep thinking and dreaming of Bangladesh.

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You keep reading about it.

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Your Google earthen Bangladesh, you're like fascinated.

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Your family's going, what's wrong with you?

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Yeah, I just can't keep Bangladesh out of my mind.

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And you get all excited about it.

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And you say, oh, God, will you please send me to Bangladesh?

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And God says, that's exactly what I've been working in you all this whole time.

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And you'll be delighted about it.

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God doesn't send a missionary out.

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And it's like, oh, will you help support me?

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Will you be a sender?

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Because I'm the goer.

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Where are you going?

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Detroit?

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Pray for me.

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Are you kidding?

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You can't stop the person from going to Detroit.

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You can't stop them from going to Bangladesh.

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Are you hearing me?

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The rest of the church says, where do I make the check out to?

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That's what we're all about.

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That's what the Philadelphia church in this age could be us if we choose to.

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We need to have hearts of hot love for God.

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We need to be careful, though.

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We don't see ourselves above everybody else.

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That we're a church that's discerning, not falling for all these ridiculous, spiritually

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wrapped things like we're in some toy store.

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We need to be a church that is alive.

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Number seven, and I am, the church must be known for its true humility.

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And that, the Leodicean church, interesting, the word Leodicean is named after a woman,

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actually.

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The city was the wife of that ruler of that realm.

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But her name means, and Leodicean adopted her name, is to judge or the city of judgment.

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And they took it as a badge of honor.

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We are the city of judgment.

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We will tell you what's right and what's wrong.

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I find it's fascinating.

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Leodicean period, eschatologist will tell you that it's the church of the last days before

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Christ returns for the church.

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I have a radical view on the church at Leodicea.

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It's even though it's mentioned within the seven churches of the letters to the seven

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churches.

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I don't believe that the church of Leodicea is a born-again church.

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See, wow, it's a strong statement.

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There's people in there that need to hear the truth to get saved.

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And I base it simply upon this, Jesus is knocking on the door, trying to get in.

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And to the angel of church at Leodicea, these things says the amen, the faithful and the

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true witness, the beginning of the creation of God, I know your works that you're neither

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cold nor hot.

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I wish you were either cold or hot.

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So then, because you are lukewarm and neither cold nor hot, I will vomit you out of my

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mouth.

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As you say, I'm rich, I have become wealthy and I have need of nothing.

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And do not know, and do not know that you are wretched, miserable, poor, blind and naked.

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Verse 19, as many as I love, I rebuke and chasen, therefore be zealous and repent.

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Here it is, behold, I stand at the door and knock.

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If anyone, here's my voice and opens up the door.

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I will come in and dine with him.

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What a tragic moment that Jesus is outside of a church trying to get in.

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And I'll leave you with this, because we're out of time.

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It is this, Jesus said, I wish you were hot or cold.

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What you may or may not know is that Laodicea was nestled in a spot right off of the

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Likus River.

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And to the north of Laodicea is the place that you can go to today, it's spectacular.

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They're in Turkey.

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It's Hieropolis.

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And the hot, therapeutic pools of Hieropolis, they're a Bible teaching site, they're a tourist

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site.

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They'll go there today and they'll bathe and receive therapy from these therapeutic

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waters.

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Very hot, very soothing.

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And Jesus said, I wish you were hot.

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Well, on the other side of the Likus River Valley was the great mountains of that region

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and the snow falls and the snow melts and the tributaries come together in ice cold water.

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And Jesus said, I wish you were cold.

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Hey, I wish I could go and be refreshed and experience therapeutic fellowship with

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you, but that ain't happening.

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Or at least I could cross the river and go on the other side and receive a cold glass

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of water from the incredible springs that flow, but you're not that either.

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Guess what?

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The water that flows out of Hieropolis and the water that flows out of Colossi flows

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down into a place and they meet at the Likus River Valley called Leodicea.

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The water is poisonous, tempered, and disgusting.

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If you put it in your mouth, it's like putting rotten eggs in your mouth.

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And Jesus said, can you imagine, and that's gentle, can you imagine God vomiting?

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I will vomit you out of my mouth.

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So church, what you and I need to be at a time like this is a body of believers that

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have jettisoned all excuses, have determined to live radical for God, that there's nothing

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that's going to hold us back anywhere.

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We fuse to be intimidated of this world.

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Our God's enthroned, Satan's losing ground, Christ is coming and we pray that Jesus will

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even soon trumpet us up out of here.

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In Jesus' name and all God's people said, Amen, God bless you.

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