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Real Life presents the Jack Hibbs Podcast with intention and boldness to proclaim

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truth, equip the saints and impact our culture. Hey guys, very important

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question that every single one of us are going to want to hear the

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answer to from the Bible. The person is backslidden, will they go up in the

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rapture or are they left behind? Let's get into it right now.

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You can get the outlines of this podcast by going to jackhibbs.com slash podcast.

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Now open your hearts to what God's Word has to say to you. Here is Jack Hibbs.

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Hey guys, welcome to the Jack Hibbs Podcast and we're delighted to be with you.

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So listen, here's the deal. There was a question that was asked of me some time back.

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And it is basically this. So I had mentioned about if the Lord came back

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momentarily in the rapture. And if somebody was like the prodigal son,

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if somebody was like the the backslidden Christian, if somebody was like someone who

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is not paying attention, even maybe listen, even backsliding and living in sin at this moment.

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And the rapture happens. Imagine the rapture happens in like five minutes.

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And I made the comment that that person will go up. If that person is born again,

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listen carefully, everybody. Number one, if that person is born again, there's no scripture

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in the Bible that says you can be unborn again. In fact, number two, there's overwhelming

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amount of scriptures that declared to us that once we are truly in fact born again, it means

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that we're sealed by the Holy Spirit unto the day of redemption. Read the book of Ephesians

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chapter one and two, among other passages of scripture that correlate with that, meaning this,

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that once the Holy Spirit, 1 Corinthians 12, takes up residence within the believer,

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you're sealed, that is, you're marked into the day of redemption. That is an agreement between

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Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit regarding your entrance into heaven. So make note,

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what's the word state? Don't be in a state of confusion over this. Are you born again?

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If you're born again, you have a passion to live for God. And even if you backslide,

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you're miserable. You can't even sin good anymore. You're in the world, you're sleeping around,

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shooting it up. I don't know what the thing is, but you're angry at God. He didn't answer your

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prayer. You didn't win the lotto, so you're taking it on him and you throw down your toys and

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you walk away like a brat and you're in the world and you know you shouldn't be there. You're miserable,

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but you're miserable also with God and you're really having a battle. You know what's right,

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but you're not doing it and you can feel it's the brutal pressure and tension of God the Holy

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Spirit in His displeasure, grieved from the inside out of you that you shouldn't be in that bar or

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with that man or with that woman or in that situation. You know you shouldn't.

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Listen, most likely you are a backslidden Christian. It's an actual thing. Paul talked about the

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Corinthians being backslidden. In fact, first Corinthians chapter 5, this is crazy. First Corinthians

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chapter 5 verses 4 through 6. Technically, just read first Corinthians 5, starting in verse 1.

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I'll just paraphrase. Paul says, there is somebody in the church there, Corinth, a young man

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who is having sexual relationships with his stepmom and you all you guys know about it and you've

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not judged and cast this guy out, excommunicated him. You've not thrown him out of the church while

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I'm telling you something. I may not be there, but my spirit's present and I'm telling you,

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do this now. You take this young man, cast him out of the fellowship of the church.

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Get him out. Can't come back on the property. We're going to get a restraining order on you.

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You get out because you are like leaven. You're like poison and you know better. Listen,

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cast him away and the Bible says right there, put him out so Satan will kill him, destroy his body.

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So that his soul will be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus Christ.

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Yeah, I can hear you right now saying, wait a minute. Where's that? First Corinthians chapter 5

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verse 1 to verse 6. That guy was so saved, but he was so backslidden, he was thrown out of church

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and Paul said that let's Satan destroy his body so that the guy can be saved.

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God and his mercy will actually rescue this guy and people like you, if that's what you're doing,

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he'll rescue you from your horrible witness by taking you home prematurely. Think of that one.

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Okay, but here's the deal. Listen to this. First John chapter 2 verse 28 and now little children

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first John's written to believers. It's important to know that. Not nonbelievers.

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There's no evangelism in first, second or third John. It's all discipleship written to believers.

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That when he appears, we may have confidence and not be ashamed before him at his coming.

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Do you know what that verse means? That means that we need to be living in such a way that when

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Jesus Christ appears, notice it's actually not a coming like the first and second coming.

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This is not the second coming of Christ. It's about the rapture when he appears. John chapter 14

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verses 1, 2 and 3 when he appears. First Thessalonians 4, 13 through 18. Okay, when he appears,

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you want to be walking with God in obedience and be confident. If you're not, when he appears,

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you're going to be ashamed. You're going to be embarrassed. What's the word you're going to have

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yoke all over your face? You're going to look like a fool. Does it say there that you're going to

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lose your salvation? Does it say there that you're going to have to, sorry, but now you got to

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go through the tribulation period to get your salvation back. No, no, listen, if you're a believer

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and you can live in sin, if you think, and there's a lot of people like this, if you think that you

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are a Christian, but you're living in sin and God forgives you and you have no hatred for your sin,

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your sin doesn't make you want to vomit, your sin, you've just, you've just gotten used to it,

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you just kind of nozzled on into it and this is the way that it is. I'm a Christian fornicator

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and that's, that's just the way it is. Or I'm a Christian adulterer or I'm a Christian bank robber,

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I'm a Christian car thief, I'm a Christian drug addict, I'm a Christian drunk,

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and that's just the way it is. Guess what? There's an incredibly high probability that you do not know

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God at all because if you don't hate your sin, because the Holy Spirit hits your sin,

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if you don't hate your sin, there's good evidence that the Spirit of God doesn't dwell within you.

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So if you ask the question, do you mean I can be a backslidden Christian and just do whatever I

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want to do and get raptured when it, when it's over, then that's just what I'll do. A true believer

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will never think that way. You have to think about that. By the way, to think that way is the term

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we've used before and some of our broadcast and that is anti-nomianism. It means that I can not

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only sin, but if I sin, then I give God the opportunity to forgive me and that makes God look great.

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So if I sin big, God's grace is big, so everybody wins. Paul the Apostle addresses that attitude

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in Romans 1, 2 and 3. Shall we sin? That grace may abound? What does he say? Absolutely not.

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Because the scripture makes it very clear that you and I are, as children of God, we are haters of sin.

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And listen, it's one thing to see the sins in other people and be disgusted by them. But when we see

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those same sins in us, it's actually worse. It's worse for us. And so listen, it's very important.

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Will backsliders be raptured? Yes, they will. Will they be ashamed when that happens? Yes,

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they will. Should a backslider right now repent and make it right with God right now?

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Absolutely right now. You need to stop what you're doing, repent of it. Repent means,

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repent means get away from it. Repent means turn away from it. It's a physical action.

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It's not just a confession. Well, I went to confession and I told my sins to the priest, so,

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now that that's done, I can go rack up some more of the same. You're an anti-nominist.

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You're not a Christian, you're lost. You can't do that. You can't go to confession,

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get washed. So you think, book of Hebrews, by the way, tells you you're not washed. Read Hebrews

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chapter 7, 8 and 9. You're not washed. When you confess to a earthly priest to seek forgiveness,

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the Bible says you're not forgiven. I can hear the hate mail now. Go ahead. You're going to write

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and say, oh, the holy church, the holy church, what holy church are you talking about? Holy church.

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No. The church is a bunch of sinners saved by the grace of God.

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There's no holy Roman Empire. There's no Pontifus Maximus

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that can absolve you of your sin. Find that in the Bible. You'll find the exact opposite.

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There's no earthly priesthood that can have your sins forgiven, not a one. That goes for my Jewish

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friends also, which you don't even have a priesthood anymore. You don't have a temple.

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This all comes down to relationship. Do you literally absolutely know for sure that God is living

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inside of your heart and life? You know, it's amazing. He's infinite, right? He's everywhere.

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There is no place both physical or spiritual where God is not. He's God.

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And yet, how is it that he has chosen to reside within his own children?

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Is a mystery we cannot explain? If you want religion, do not let Jesus end. If you want religion,

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do not let the Holy Spirit take up residence in your life. If you want to go play games and

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send up a storm and have life your way and satisfy all your earthly pleasures and then slap a

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slap a cross or something on you as being accepted. Yeah, it's not going to happen.

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No, listen, if you are truly a living new creation in Christ Jesus,

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you're living for the life of the Spirit and you're producing the fruit of the Spirit.

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So you cannot be sleeping with that girl or with that guy or doing those things or

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stealing from the business and call yourself a Christian. If you backslide,

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thank God that's for a season. You hate it. It could very well cost you your life

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or you'll come back like the prodigal son in the Gospels. I want to end with this.

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So in our our college and career group at Calvary Costa Mesa back in those days,

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back in the late 70s and 80s, in our college and career group which was

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man, a thousand plus people. Lisa and I were the only married couple in the entire group.

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In fact, when we would go on camps, I would sleep with the guys and she would sleep with

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the girls, all the guys on one side of the camp and all the girls on one side of the camp

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and not sleep with the guys. And all the guys who'd always asked me,

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how can you how can you stand being here with us when knowing that your wife is over there?

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It cracked the sub we'd laugh about that for years. It's so funny. But we were the only married couple.

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We got married really young and all these college and career age people around us.

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And one of our really good friends, I'm not going to say his name. I don't want to shame his family.

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It's actually not a shame. It's not a shame in. But it's to make the point.

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I'll just call them, I'll call them Don. So Don loved the Lord. We hung out together with our

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little Posse. We had our guys. It was just, it was Lisa and it was Julie and all the rest of them

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were about seven guys. We're all friends and we did everything together. We went camping together.

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We went witnessing together and everything together. It's awesome, awesome fellowship. We just

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lived our lives like that every Friday night, every Friday night. It was just written into

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the code every Friday night at seven o'clock automatically that I'll show up at our apartment.

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And they'd bring chips and dip and food and we would stay up as late as possible

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on Friday night, talking about Jesus playing trivia, Bible trivia games, having a great time

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going through the Bible. My gosh, those were great days. They're not as great as the days are today.

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That's how God works, but they were awesome. But I say that to tell you this. So Don,

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Don came from a life of alcoholism. His dad was an alcoholic, his mom was an alcoholic,

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and so Don learned from an early age that when life gets tough, you drink. That's what you do.

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By the way, that's called learned response behavior. Growing up as a kid, when you see your parents

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or the authoritative figure in your life, respond to life's challenges, you will do the same.

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You will do the exact same thing, unless something happens, unless Christ intervenes.

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So what happened with Don is that he was saved out of an alcoholic background and God saved him,

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and Don was awesome. So incredibly funny, great guy. But Don also, because he had a rough upbringing,

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he was also a little bit, not too much, but a little bit prone, that when he got his eyes off

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of Jesus like Peter, he would sink into depression. Not catastrophic depression, like we know about

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these days, but he'd get bombed. And then he'd say things like, I don't feel like it. I don't

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want to. Come on, Don, let's go. The best of Chuck, there's going to be a great softball game at

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the church picnic. Let's go. I don't feel like it. And so Don started drinking again.

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And we hadn't seen him for like a week. And then Friday night shows up and there's no Don.

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Has anybody seen Don? No, we called Don back in those days. Got to dial the number.

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No cell phones back in the ancient history, ancient times. And we couldn't find him.

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And it wasn't until Sunday morning, I remember when Ralph came into church on Sunday morning,

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and he said, and he's crying. He said, did you, did you ever know Don?

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What's the matter with you? Why are you crying? And he said, Don got into a head-on collision

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with a telephone pole on PCH. He was killed instantly. And the police said that he was absolutely

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intoxicated. And the cab was just wreaking of alcohol. Every single one of us knew in the moment.

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Wow. God took him home. God took him home. He didn't lose his salvation.

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Listen, friend, if you can lose your salvation, you've already lost yours. If you can lose it,

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you've already lost it. The good news is if you got it, you can't lose it. Remember that.

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It's very important. So what you want to do is you want to be walking with Jesus every day.

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And so that when he comes back or when it's time for you to drop dead, you won't be ashamed.

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It's very simple. God does not commit any abortions in his family whatsoever.

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Hope that makes sense. By the way, I want to do this right now. Father, for anyone who's out there

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right now that is just struggling with life itself. They may be able to say right now,

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I do believe, Pastor Jack, that Jesus died in the cross for my sins and he rose again from the dead.

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But I've been such a terrible witness. I've messed up left and right. I hate myself for it.

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I know I've offended Jesus. I've sinned against God. And I just can't even stand to look at myself

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in the mirror. Lord, you would say, Lord, depart for me. Depart for me. I'm a sinful man.

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Listen, my friend, there's nobody in this podcast right now that would say to you, you know,

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get out. But for every true Christian, we would say to you right now, we know exactly how you feel.

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We've all been there. So I want to encourage you to come back home real quick. It takes a nanosecond.

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I know it feels like the enemy is shouting at you. God won't have you. Look at you.

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You're a terrible person. God will not accept you back. Satan's a liar. Don't listen to him.

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Go back to Jesus. Come back to Jesus right now and get back on the course and keep your ice set on

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the cross. And God will restore you. He will restore what the moth and the rust, the alcohol,

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the money, the girls, the guys, the toys of this world have robbed from you and he'll restore you.

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And he loves to do that. If you've prayed that prayer, man, drop us a note. We'd love to hear that

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from you. So, all right, until next time, God bless you guys.

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