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Real life presents the Jack Hibbs podcast with intention and boldness to proclaim

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truth, equip the saints and impact our culture. Hey everybody, we're gonna be

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sitting down and you, I hope your mind is gonna be blown about how exciting can

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Bible prophecy be and why it matters to the young person in your life and also

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you're gonna find out how you can join us on a very very special upcoming event

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as we head to Alaska on a Bible prophecy cruise. Stay tuned, there's more

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information coming, but let's go.

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Now, open your hearts to what God's word has to say to you. Here is Jack Hibbs.

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Well, everybody, welcome to the Jack Hibbs show. We are so excited to have you with us today

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because we are getting back to some good old friends that we have both at the table

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and in the pulpit. And we're gonna find out exactly what that means, but we have

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with us, Jeff Kenley, who is a noted author and a pastor and a man that is just doing a great great

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work and we're just delighted to have him. And I don't know, do I call you a sidekick because you

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got your own thing going on, but you guys partner in crime and I'm talking about Todd Hampson,

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where these two guys are known as the prophecy pros. If you don't know, if you don't follow

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them and their podcast and their productions of what they put out, wow, you will after this

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podcast today, I highly recommend both of these guys prolific authors and except one thing that

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Todd's got up on Jeff is that my brain works in cartoons. Now, the good thing for the world is

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I can't draw a stickman, but my whole mind is a cartoon world. I see things going on around

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people's lives. I see giant draps walking by people and that's how I remember their names

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actually in events. And I think Todd does the same thing. He's a great cartoonist and you guys

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have taken these skills that you put together. But right before we went on the air, I was going to

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say, let's talk about dispensationalism and let's talk about isriology and let's talk about

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some theology and because both these guys are brilliant. And they said, well, we want to talk

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about we want to talk about something else. So we're going to I'm going to be a nice host and

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we're we're going to talk about some great stuff, but they had me honestly. They had me with

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their new book and that is a visual guide to the end times, a complete survey of the chronological

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chronology and events of the last days folks look at this. This is written for kids,

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but exactly anybody because I'm going to add this to my theological adult pastors. It's written

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for us for illustration purposes only, but I'm telling you guys talk about the book and talk

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about what's going on. If you can, some stuff we have to limit right now because of whatever. But

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you know, beyond being the remarkable prophecy prose and the podcasting and all that you guys

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do, the traveling that you do, the speaking that you do, the writing that you do. And in his spare

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time, getting his doctorate because he's got all that kind of time on his hands. Jeff and Todd

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explained the project that we have before us right here. And how do we, how can this program help

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you guys get this to be a best seller? That's what I want to see. Because kids need Bible prophecy,

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right? They do. And it's really for all audiences. I mean, it's visual. So kids,

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teenagers and up would get it. But it's really, it's really the theology in it is, it's pretty deep,

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but it's condensed. It's like, what are the basics I need to know? But the cool thing about the

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concept is it really goes chronologically through all the end time events and actually hits on all

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the things you mentioned, Israelology, dispensationalism, all those, all those key things. It gives people

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good firm understanding of those things in a visual way that they could understand. And we found that

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the pictures, like you said, like it engages people on so many different levels. Yes. And it brings

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them into the truth. And it's like almost like the front porch to getting them into the truth.

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So once they get into there, then like Todd said, we condensed like key passages and events and

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people and angels. And there's even a past, a past in there for pastors. What about pastors? How do

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I get on board with this thing? That's good. You did that. But the whole books for me. Yeah.

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As soon as you mentioned illustration on that, I think our God is a God that is, I'll use the

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term technicolor. You cannot read Ezekiel or Daniel or Revelation, where in I'm not saying,

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by the way, folks, I'm not saying that those books are pictorial because God is showing some

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allegorical display of something that is other than what is clearly revealed. No, no, no. I'm saying

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that in reality, God says this angel has a wheel within a wheel and eyes all around covering it.

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That is not allegorical talk. This is God's creative mind displaying and putting on the record

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that our God is a very, very illustrative God. And even in his creative powers, we're talking

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about how how even angels are described where I love how before the throne of God, you've got,

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I believe they're the seraphim with each has one head, but with four faces.

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I mean, just right there, just freak out. One head, four faces. That'll keep you up all night.

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That's great because it's like the same God that paints the sunset for us.

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Oh, I love it. It paints the mountains and all the rivers and the valleys and everything

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in the world. He also verbally paints pictures as well in his word. Jesus did the same thing.

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Behold the sower went out to sow. You're thinking about that. Jesus as the door, Christ,

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as the river of life. But when you get the revelation, like you said, there are so many bizarre

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kind of pictures. So we put them in a package where people can actually connect with them.

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Because as you know, Jack, most people come to revelation. They see a nonchal pass sign or

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keep off the grass. Nobody comes into this book. It's above your pay grade. So we really wanted to

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instead of dumbing down the truth, just put the cookies in the bottom shelf in a way that everybody

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can understand. And you guys are so good at that. You're so good at that. That we've had the joy

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of having you guys out at our church where you have spoken two years now. You have spoken to a

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remarkable gathering of junior hires and high schoolers. And they have just eaten up your material.

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They love you guys. And yeah, so speak more about that. Speak more about what's happening.

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And as you do, answer this question. I would think I have to imagine this because it was never

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my situation. But I'm going to guess that there are like you said, Jeff, that there are parents who

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are might maybe thinking, well, you know, we shouldn't get into the book of revelation with our

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kids because it might scare them where that is a very, very sad thing because it is the revelation

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of Jesus Christ. That's the actual title of the book, the revelation of Jesus Christ. And so we get

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all the way through the Bible. And then just before it's kind of like, you know, the last bite of

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the hamburger tastes the best. If you know, it's the last scoop of the Sunday with the banana

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sweat, that's the best. The last bit of the word of God in my opinion is the best at the end.

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If I remember right, the book of revelation references more Old Testament books than all of

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the New Testament books combined, which is remarkable. So yeah, there were like 400 different

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illusions to the Old Testament in Revelation alone. It's really great because, you know, I spent

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I think 25 years as a youth pastor and I came out of Dallas seminary not really knowing what to do

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with my degree. I just thought, well, I'll just teach them the Bible, right? What I discovered is

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they didn't want pizza and games. They wanted the truth. There you go. Students want two things. They

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want love. They want to know that you care and they want to know that you care enough to give them

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the truth because they've got antenna. They know when you're playing games with them. And so just

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give them the truth. And last year when we were here and this was my experience over my youth pastor

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career that students, when you bring them the solid truth of the word, they're not going,

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I can understand that. No, they can understand any depth of theology and biblical truth that an

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adult can. Absolutely. And so our job together corporately is to do what the psalmist said in Psalm 71. He

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says, Oh God, you've taught me from my youth and I still declare your wondrous deeds. Here's our prayer

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even when I'm old. That's us. Even when I am old. Oh God, do not forsake me until I declare your

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strength to this generation, your power to all who are to come. That's right again. That's

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Psalm 71 versus 17 and 18. Psalm 71 versus 17 and 18. And I believe teaching revelation actually

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unlocks the whole Bible for students because it helps them understand the complete story of

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scripture. Nobody goes to their favorite movie and walks out before the ending. But that's how

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we treat the Bible. It's too scary. And by the way, what we're seeing, we're doing these youth

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conferences that were spurred on by our partnership with you guys last year. And what we're finding is

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that when students hear about, because the thing people are afraid to teach them is the future

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judgments, because they're some freaky stuff. Yeah, yeah. We have students saying come into the Lord

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and then we have conversations with them. Why did you come to the one young man in Knoxville?

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We said, why did you come? What, what did it for you? Because he grew up in the church. Yep.

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He said, he said, I never heard that before. And I always thought, oh, I'll just, I'll just accept

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the Lord when I'm older. But I don't want, but I don't want to face that. If that's, if that's

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anywhere in the near horizon, I want to be out of here before that. Yeah. Well, wow. So I had no

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church upbringing. I walked into a church the first night I had ever heard the gospel.

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That message was entitled, how to inherit hell was the name of the sermon. And it was the

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judgment of God. Yeah. In fact, it was Greg Laurie was given the word that night. Wow.

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I was 19 years old. Gosh, I was 19 years old. I think he was like, he was like 25. But I heard

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the gospel for the first time. But what made me respond to the gospel was the absolute fear and

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terror of the coming judgment, because that sermon he gave, how to inherit hell. And he went down

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the list of those that are outside of the kingdom of heaven in eternity. And the first one

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at the top of the list was a coward. Is that amazing? Wow. Before the the Hormongers and the

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murders and the false prophets and all that stuff. The first one at the top of the list for those

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who inherit hell is the coward. Yeah. And man, I'm like, oh, my gosh, because I just remember

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hearing the gospel. And then I wanted to be thinking, well, I can maybe accept Jesus, you know,

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and keep that kind of quiet. And I'm telling you, man, by the time that service was over,

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I was just sweating. I was nailed. I mean, it was like a conversion that I later read

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from the Puritan era. You would have thought Jonathan Edwards was preaching. My palms were

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sweating. I was absolutely busted. And I knew that if I didn't, I did not do this. I was in mortal

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danger. Eternal damnation was like a blade behind my neck. And so look, I was 19 years old.

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That's what I needed to hear. And so some people, of course, need to hear that. Others are one

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in by the remarkable precious grace of God. Some of us need to hear about fire. That's right.

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But yeah, you mentioned an awesome thing in this great, great book. This should be reading for

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everyone. You should all you should all get this. So I'm not just saying this because you guys are

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friends. One of the reasons why maybe the biggest reason why we're friends is because like Amos

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three three says, how can two walk together unless they're in agreement? It's the truth of the

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word of God that has brought us together. I would respect these guys if they were to say to me,

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we can no longer be friends with you, Jack, because you've gone nuts. You've departed from the truth.

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That's that's respectable. It's the agreement upon the word of God that causes us these guys to

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put out this tremendous book that your kids need to know. Don't underscore or I should say

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underestimate your kids. Let them know this really in the Christian community. This is published by

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Harvest House publishers, great publishers, great people. Let's buy this. It's Christmas is coming up,

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buy it, get it for people. What a great gift. Toys come and go. This is something that a kid can

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pick up and really hang on to for the rest of their life. But you know, I'm just passionate about

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this book being a mega-seller. It's got to get out there people, order it, get it. But listen,

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walk us through, show them why this book is so vitally important. Yeah, so there's really a theme

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to the book and the theme is that Todd and I are your your pilots on this this flight. So you

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climb aboard prophecy airlines and you get aboard, you've got your boarding pass and you come on

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board and we just walk you through what it takes to get ready for takeoff. And throughout the book,

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we take you through the various major events. Todd does some incredible illustrations. We go through

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what's cruising altitude. How do you adjust to the air? You know, that kind of thing. And we take

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you through the rapture. We take you through dispensational theology. We take you through all events

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and people. Todd, what else is in here? Yeah, I mean, it really is a theological course in

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in eschatology. It explains, you know, the difference between Israel and the Gentiles, God's

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program for the is why they're such a struggle. You guys should autograph it. We'll send it to

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Tucker Carlson. Yeah, yeah, exactly. And can you see happy. Yeah, the action to do that. And that's

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the thing about this book. Yeah, and I mean, it goes through all the key figures we see in the end

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times. And again, it's in chronological order. So yeah, and it presents all the views. And then

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it shows the strength of the pre-trib, you know, the literal interpretation method. How we know

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Israel God's promises to Israel still stand. All of that is packed in here. All the really,

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all of the vital issues that people are dealing with today from Israel to standing with courage

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and culture, all that stuff. And how we're going to see evil and coaching in the end times,

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all that is in this book. But yeah, I mean, it's, it is just full, every single page has artwork

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on it. And the hardest part was distilling down the information. It's taken what we've written,

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budget. It was still tough to compare. Yeah, yeah, exactly. But that's the great thing about

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an engaging book like this. And Todd and I both came to Christ. You came to Christ as teenagers.

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Yeah. You know, for me, I was all three of us on church teenage. Unchurched, yeah.

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Completely. And so for me, you know, it was, when I first, I'd never anything deeper than a

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comic book when I became a Christian. I didn't know there were any things other than comic books.

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Probably have to agree. You know, and so for me, when I became a Christian, all of a sudden,

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and I became a Christian because another 16 year old, and this is why youth are so important

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to be reached for Christ because they're the primary evangelists for other youth. Yeah.

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He turned to me at the end of a church service that I've never been into my whole life. He said,

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Jeff, if you were to die tonight, do you know where you'd spend the diagnostic question?

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That's right. I'm a 16 year old. Yeah. And I'd been witness to by, you know, the little Christian

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girls and everybody else come up to me and I'd scare them off. But for that question, it pierced my heart.

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And I say that only to say that as I gave my life to Christ that night, Jack, I began to have a

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hunger for truth, a hunger for truth. And over the next 52 weeks, I read 50 books, but it wasn't

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just elementary. It was like J.I. Packer and A.W. Tozer and How Lindsay and people like that,

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you know, but just that's what kids have today, though. But we're not giving them that deep truth.

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We're just maintaining their Christianity. You know what truly bizarre. Thank you for saying that.

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Those books, for example, that you mentioned and so many more, these books are books that

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may have been written 30, 40, 50 years ago, but they are presenting eternal truths. And I don't know,

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we got to break this stupor that hangs over the head of the modern day church because when I

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got saved in the 70s, immediately, we were encouraged to go and read Tozer. Lewis, we were reading

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on prayer, Andrew Murray. And right now, I'm drawn to blank, but just J.C. Ryle, this was normal.

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In fact, the first commentary set, I have to agree with you. I just basically cheated in school

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because in those days, I could take a picture with my eye and then regurgitated on test day.

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And then, you know, two weeks later, I couldn't remember any answer whatsoever.

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But with the Bible, when you get saved, there's this may freak people out, but I'm just going

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to be honest about it. Two things happened to me. Number one, I wanted to read the Bible.

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What a weird thought, right? And the reason, of course, where the Lord drew your heart.

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Yes, because I'm reading in this Israel, in this Israel, in this Israel, now, back in those days,

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you know, there was no confusion about Palestine, Palestinian, Israel, and Israel, and Israel throughout

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the entire scripture. And I, being a teenager, where is it? And I was shocked to find out that

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it's so small that on the globe, you can't even put Israel. The name doesn't fit on the land.

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It blew my mind, but a hunger for the word. So, yeah, the first books I read and finished were

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books regarding scripture and Christianity. And those truths that it never changed, I would love

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to see people once again, start reading, like Reese Howell's Intercessor, or Tozer's the pursuit of

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God. I think Tozer said it took him 28 years to write that book. Oh, my gosh. And it's only

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that big. But I make it a point to read that book once a year, just to get my rudder and come

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to set. So healthy. Yeah. What else is going on? I'm going to say with that, we live in an era

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where there's so much confusion and fuzziness about everything, about a literal Genesis, a literal

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six day creation, the book of Revelation, salvation itself. I mean, so many things in our day that

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are just being watered down, the paradigm has been flipped to where the purpose of the church has

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become, try to water it down and get everybody in instead of equipping the saints to send them out.

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So we got a bunch of, we're getting people in, but we're not equipping them, we're not sending them

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out. So there's so many truths that come and are connected to eschatology and Bible prophecy.

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And it's one key area that kind of unlocks all of that for people. Yeah. Yeah, it's like, as we

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talk about in the book, it's like, there's an instrument panel. And all pilots, as you well know,

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have to look at the instrument panel. They can't fly by their emotions, by their feelings,

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or with their bodies telling them at the moment, they may be inverted, not know it. And this generation

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is growing up like no generation, the precedent of this generation is that they have no compass,

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they have no root system. And to their, you know, credit or demise, their parents don't have that

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to give to them. And so what we're seeing as we travel around is that really that remnant bride

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that's rising up is like, I never heard of this stuff before in church. I don't know

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ones ever told me this before. Exactly. And so we're just simply bringing this truth to people.

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And Jack, the great, one of the greatest thrills of ministries, you know, is that you see people,

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you see the lights come on in their eyes when you're teaching and they're like, I'm going to

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pass down. I'm going to put that in my Bible, you know. And so that's the joy of discovery that

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Eureka in the scriptures that people are getting right now. You know, I love, I love what you guys

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are saying. And you said something that triggered. What I just, I absolutely believe that this is

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true. People might say, no, I don't think so. You're pushing the envelope. And it's this somewhere

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back in time, somebody said, you can't prove the existence of God. It's got to be by faith.

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Well, the Christian faith is unlike any other faith because our faith is founded upon fact.

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What? What do you mean fact? Well, I'll tell you a fact. A fact where a Hebrew prophet announces

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that the Messiah of Israel and for that matter of the world would have to be born in Bethlehem.

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Okay. And to me, Bible prophecy proves the existence of God. That may be a huge statement for

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some people, but I have to tell you, I believe it with all of my heart because in science, you have

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to, you have to have a theory. And then you put that theory to a test. You take it into the lab

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off the paper, into the lab. And you, you, you seek to break it, right? If you can break it,

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it's not scientific. So if it's repeatable, right? Now it's actually a warranted the title of

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science because science is the reproducible evidence of the discovery. That is the definition of

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Bible prophecy. Exactly. So in my P brain, I, it's Bible prophecy that gives me so much boldness

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that's so tearyology. It's the eschatological truth that causes me to know that the so teary

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logical truth will not fail me. That's right. Absolutely. And you know, we tell students that if

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Moses and Jeremiah and Isaiah and Micah, all these Old Testament prophets, they either got really,

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really lucky on their predictions, which no rational person would say. But when you line up,

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the Bible gets it right every time. It hits a home run with every prophecy. It's never hit a

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ground ball. It's never struck out. It's a grand slam every time. It's never come close.

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Never come close. Always right on it. And you know, with Christ for filling 109 prophecies when he

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came, I mean, that is undeniable proof of the existence of God and of the veracity and authenticity

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of the world. I love that word veracity. I share with people that that was the main thing that led

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me to the moon was fulfill prophecy. It was a one thing I couldn't explain away. When I was 13,

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I would say I was a atheist, even though I would get mad at God when stuff bads.

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You're 13. You can say. You should know what he takes you seriously. Exactly. But it was

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fulfilled prophecy. That was the main apologetic that got me there. And then after that, like you

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said, we have a book. There's a book of history and science built in reality. So when you test it

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against the real world evidence, whether it's archaeological discoveries, scientific facts that

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have been in the scriptures hundreds and thousands of years before we knew they were fact

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from science. Exactly. And at some point, you have to put the evidence together and say,

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all right, there's a mountain of evidence here. You still can't evidence someone into belief.

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It's still a work of God and they still have to respond with the Lord. But you can at least

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break down those barriers to beliefs. Take away the excuses and say, you got a choice to make.

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We just gave you a whole mountain load of evidence. Yes. You have a choice to do what with the

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Lord right now. Because linked directly to that is the fact that every single prophecy was

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fulfilled literally, specifically, precisely as written. Now, there are people on the internet right

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now on Instagram, they're making these videos saying, you know why? There's no rapture going to come

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because there's no rapture in the Bible. There's no rapture even mentioned in scripture. And

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all millennialism, all these views, Jack, it's like they don't see or they don't stay consistent

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with the fact that God, what he said in the past, he's still going into the future. The same way

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he did in the past, literal prophecy. I must be getting really old because when I see those

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arguments and hear those arguments and there's some guys out there that actually have YouTube pages

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that they spend their time telling the world how wrong I am and how wrong you guys are by name.

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Well, why don't you respond to them? You should say something. Yeah, forget it. For what?

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I'm not going to convince this knucklehead. That's right. And I can say knucklehead because

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I got saved in a pre-millennial, pre-tribulational, futurist, literal interpretation,

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New Testament church. And so when you're young like that and you're new and you're eating it up,

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the Holy Spirit, honestly, bearing total witness to what Pastor Chuck Smith was teaching.

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But at some point I started reading some books, started out, believe it or not,

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it started out reading a little pamphlet that a guy by the name of Keith Green had written.

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rescued or escaping out of here. It's going to take a man to go through the trip.

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And so I'm 19 years old, I'm 20 years old, I'm thinking, yeah, you know, like my raw knee.

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And that's right. So it's funny because when I was challenged by that,

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I departed for a good year from my foundation that had been taught and I got to tell you,

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I was miserable. Being a post-tribulation is not because I still believe that God's grace

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would be there for me to stick my head out and get cut off. I believe God's grace would be there.

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to lose confidence and salvation because if I was wrong in this area, then I must be wrong in

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that area. But then I see this happening. And I see a difference between the church and Israel

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and I had to spiritualize. And then I had to place the church in the area where Israel is at

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and the tribulation. I was so messed up and I got to tell you, God was so good to me and so

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merciful to me. He let me go on that bonehead journey because when I came back to the pre-millennial

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pre-tribulation, a literal view of Scripture, I had more weapons to argue with the post-tribulation

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brothers. And yeah, I do call them brothers. They're just wrong. And by the way, they're going to be

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so happy they're wrong, right? They're going to be so happy. But that said,

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this word, when it's prophesied literally to the point where it's almost, I mean this affectionately,

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it's almost to the point that God is so obvious in the details that it's almost crazy that he would

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do this where the Messiah is going to be betrayed for. Not 29 pieces of silver, not 31 pieces of silver,

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30. He thought that was important enough and because he did, it is important enough. And you

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can just imagine that as the Jews begin, I think in the not-too-distant future, the veil begins to be

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lifted, right? They're going to read passages like that for them. It's just going to explode because

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they're going to realize, oh my gosh, they'll testament, warned us, not to us. They'll mourn for the

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one who is pissed. They'll see it and they'll finally realize. That to me is part of the beauty of the

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Word of God and people sometimes don't study the Bible because they're afraid of it or they don't

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know how to interpret it and that type of thing. But other people say, well, God's just very general

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about certain things. He's just very, yeah, he's going to come back one day, you know, type of thing.

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But God has given us so much detail, thousands of Bible, 8,300 Bible verses that talk about prophecy

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in the Bible that give us so much specificity. So instead of saying, well, I can't know or

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no, you can't really know. Guess what? Only one views right. Only one views right. You must study

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the Scripture for yourself to come to reason conclusion based on a literal interpretation

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Scripture. And that's a beautiful point because every believer out there knows this intuitively.

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We are sinners. We're imperfect. We want to impose our emotions and our desires on the Scripture.

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We want it to say what we want it to say, but the literal or I'll call it the plain sense

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interpretation. We believe God says what he means means what he says. Take it at face value.

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Don't force another theological griddle on it to say, well, he didn't, his promises to Israel,

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even though it says it's everlasting and eternal, didn't really mean that. The New Testament

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reinterpreted the Old Testament. Right. Right. If we want to be, you know, intellectually and

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theologically honest, we let the Scripture tell us what it means. And then it makes the whole

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Bible make sense. The whole thing lines out like one big story and you can see those truths.

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All the things we talk about, the rapture, Israel's role, all these key things that are that are

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front and center in our day. The answer is right here. If we'll just let Scripture speak,

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it'll tell us exactly what those things are. Wow. You just jared a memory. Now, I'm not

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intellectual enough, honestly, and I don't know enough, but I can start the engine on this and

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then please respond because it dovetails into what you guys just said. If I remember right,

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prior to 1948, there was the German School of Higher Criticism that in their theological

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view of end time events, they spiritualized the future of Israel. That Israel was not really going

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to be a country again. The Jews were not really going to go back there. They were not really going

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to be. God's done with them. And there was a guy who by the name of Harry Ironside,

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who him and Dr. John Wolverid would take journeys around the US and speak on Bible prophecy.

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And they would say, there's going to be a future Israel, right? Everybody would laugh.

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In no way, that's ridiculous. No, no, it's going to happen. Those guys stayed with it and then

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when it happened, wasn't the fallout of Israel being born a second time, Isaiah chapter 66 in a day,

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May 14, 1948. Wasn't it from that time, and maybe you can please elaborate on that? Didn't that

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begin to tear apart the critics because of the exactness of the Scripture? Can you

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shed some more light on that? Absolutely. And really from about the time of the 4th century,

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all the way to 1948, all millennialism and replacement theology ruled the day.

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Now, to their credit, let's give them a little bit of credit here. If you're living in 700 AD

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and you're looking at these Scriptures, you're going, well, obviously this doesn't mean Israel

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because Israel has been scattered to the wind to 78 AD. So, I mean, to a certain degree,

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you kind of understand that. But when you, again, study the Scripture literally, you come to

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conclusion, you say, well, I have to deal with that because God said they're coming back. And so,

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maybe I just should believe they're going to come back. People like see Isaiah Skofield,

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people like that, Dr. Louis Spirit, Chaffer, who founded Dallas Seminary. Those were the people that

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said, but it says it's going to happen. And so, here's the thing, people that believed in

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replacement theology, that believed in all millennialism, that everything's just spiritualized.

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When May 14, 1940 had happened, it should have been the gang changer of all gang change.

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Yeah, change, Matthew, I'll change it. Change your glasses. That's right.

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But what they did, many of them, to this day, cling to that. They cling to the system of belief.

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They're following the traditions of men. They are. They are. Absolutely.

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At that point, you're following the traditions of men. Matthew 23, when Jesus is speaking

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to the Pharisees and said, Jesus, they say, show us a sign. And Jesus said, you guys can tell me

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if it's going to rain tomorrow, but you cannot discern the signs of the times. Jack, the sign of the

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times was physically standing in front of them, and they couldn't see it. So, here comes Israel,

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the super sign of the last days. It's the greatest prophetic sign of the modern day.

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And yet, people are looking at that. And instead of recognizing that as Fulfill's scripture,

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they demonize that. Yes. And they say, no, no, it's not the real Israel.

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are you flirting with the doctrines of demons? Are you flirting with a deception? Because

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as Jesus stood before the Pharisees and would not believe, he said to them, you won't hear me,

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you won't listen to the words I'm saying, and you will not believe. Today, we have Israel standing

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on the world scene and people refuse to believe. That is the same spirit. And I'm not, this is not

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exaggeration. If you are looking at the Messiah's face 2,000 years ago, and he tells you,

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you're not going to see me again until you say, blessed is he who comes to the name of the Lord,

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that's a future statement. That's right. Yeah. And we know, and everybody should have

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got it then, which you didn't have to be an Einstein to figure it out. Hey, Zechariah talks about

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this. Hey, we know Old Testament prophets that spoke about this. Jesus tries to set them up to

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get a little bit of the grudge door open and it just wouldn't open. Today, we have the same Lord

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who, before he comes back, has set up Israel as the greats call it what you want. Lightning

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rod, flashlight, lighthouse, spark, and we're seeing people like you just said, I will not believe

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this. And they're getting all, I don't know. I don't know what to say. It really is a deception.

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And by the way, it's Matthew 16, not Matthew 23. But here's the point that that scripture makes

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is that all of those prophecies that previously came true literally. Now we have Israel literally

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coming true. In fact, Israel has to be a nation in order for the prophecies of revelation to come true.

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So hello, you know, the first step is there. Here's my question to those people. Where in the Bible

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does it prophesy that a counterfeit Israel will rise in the last days and half of all the Jews on

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the planet will come back and they'll want to build their temple just like scripture says and they'll

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return just like scripture says, but they're not the real Israel. Show me that prophetic scripture

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because you would think, you would think, Jack, if that were really going to happen, God would have warned

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us about it, right? What he does say is no, watch out. Israel will be back.

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100%. Somebody, I believe, I may have this wrong, but I think many, many years ago, a man by the name

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of Zola Levitt was, I think this was before he was a Christian. He was Jewish. And he had a Christian

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in one of his classes. And he was puzzled by that and challenged her, challenged her, kind of mocked

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her, ridiculed her and asked her or said to her, prove to me that God exists. And she said, I can prove

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that with one word. And she said, Israel and him being a Jew, he thought she was going to say

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something else. And he said later on to hit him like a ton of bricks because he couldn't

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cope with the reality. Oh my gosh. Israel. And here we are today. So there's a lot of people today.

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I guess I should throw a commercial up right now. Right? We need to do this. We were talking

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about all this in depth. Yeah. It's going to happen right there. If you like what's happening here,

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we have to remember this, you know, because because now we have to do it. Yeah. Yeah. So you guys,

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we want to encourage you that the wonderful people at Harvest House Publishing who have been so

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generous to publish the books that we've written independently and collectively God has been

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doing a work. And we love these guys. But Harvest House prophecy crews with Todd and with Jeff

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and with myself that is going to be on June 20th, June 20th to the 27th. And it is going to be in

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Alaska crews. We're going to have a lot of fun. But we are going to go deep. We are going to be

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in the word. We're going to not only host you in teaching, but in Q&A. And we're just going to

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have the time of our lives. And so Alaska crews June 20th to the 27th. And you can find out more

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information at jackhibs.com. You can go to jackhibs.com. And that will direct you to the wonderful people

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that are putting this together. And we encourage you to do that. Space is limited.

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But make sure you want to act on that. That's June 20th to the 27th, 2026, which will be here

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in a couple of weeks the way time is going. And if the Lord doesn't come back before then we'll

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see you on this trip. But we'd love to have you. We're going to have a lot of fun. So with that said,

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I find it interesting right now. We've got all these dynamics going on. And I've been saying it

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this way. COVID was a big test. BLM was a big test. Marriage and abortion, always a big test to

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the church. Genderism, identity, gender selection, mutilation, all this insanity, all this stuff

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against things that God has set our sacred and perfect and been wonderful to him. Right?

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And now we come to, and I really want, no man knows the dearly hour. Nobody knows.

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But now the big dividing rod is Israel. The reason why I just said, what does that have to do with

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anything? No man knows the dearly hour. And the big dividing rod is Israel. After the topic of

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Israel, like COVID was a topic and BLM was a topic and genderisms a topic, what could be greater?

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What else is there? What could be greater than Israel as a dividing rod? That's right.

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I find it so fascinating that Jesus even commends the church at Philadelphia because

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they kept his name and they kept his word. And it's interesting to me. And I'd love to get

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your take on this. He says, I'm going to cause those who say that they are Jews and are not,

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who worship at the synagogue of Satan, to bow down before your feet. What do you guys think that

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mean? I have my opinion. What do you guys think that means? That's the letter of the churches

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in Revelation chapter two. And you know, the synagogue of Satan is, there's several interpretations.

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Sure. Of course there is. That's there always is. But one interpretation says that the synagogue

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of Satan were the Jews in that city that were persecuting the Christians. So that would be one of

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the interpretations of that. Others believe that it's actually Satan himself that is persecuting

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the church and he's using the community to do it as well. So it's a more cultural kind of thing.

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So there's several different interpretations about that. But what he says to the church there,

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and what he says to all of the churches in Revelation two and three, he promises something special

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to everyone who overcomes. That's right. Everyone overcomes. Now you talk about the lightning rod issue.

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Listen Christian, you have to choose this day. If you're going to get on Israel side, you're going

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to get on the other side. And for those who believe in the scripture, it doesn't mean Jack that we

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support every decision that Israel makes. Just like we don't support every decision America.

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Of course. People say, well, they're a secular government. Well, they were secular in the Old Testament.

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They were pagan kings in the Old Testament. In fact, what nation on earth has got more of their

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boobies recorded? Exactly. Exactly. So, but we support their right to exist. Absolutely. They're

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right to the land. They're right to defend themselves. And then for Christians, as we seek to

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bless them as much as we can, just like Matthew evangelize them and give them a gospel.

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Yeah. That's right. Tell them about Yeshua. Yep. So Todd, words on this.

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I was going to say one thing that keeps coming to mind is just the connection between Israel and

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eschatology. If you get one wrong, you get the other wrong. Yes. If you lose the interpretation

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method we're talking about and just let scripture speak, you believe there's a little Israel.

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It is the flashing neon sign. Yes. I have a book that I bought it. It may be one of the last

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copies because I haven't seen it anywhere else. But I bought a book from a from a professor from

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1936 who wrote a book. It's called God in the Jew. He was a professor. All kinds of other professors

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you know endorsed it and everything. And in one chapter, it kind of sums up the book and it says,

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there will never be the national a national restoration of the Jews. I have a copy of the book.

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Two years later, there's a national restoration of the Jews that like we said, that might drop,

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verifies that you use a literal interpretation method, which also, again, it's linked to eschatology

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and it's all in here and all in what we're talking about, that there's a literal rapture. There's a

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literal future kingdom. There's a literal purpose of God focusing on the Jews during the seven-year

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tribulation period. I mean, you can't get away from that if you let scripture speak for itself.

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I know we keep harping on that. Yeah, no, but it's the dividing it's the dividing issue with the

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now within Christianity and people need to wrestle with that and let the Bible win.

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So I brought that up deliberately for this reason because the seven letters to the seven churches.

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So there's the approach and I get it and I understand it that in every era since the church was

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born, you can see where it has mirrored that time. There's also the fact that these seven types

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of hearts could be inside a believer at any given time of your life actually. You can be a

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Philadelphia and then you backslide to be a leo-de-sian. Having said that and maybe this sounds like a

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cop-out type of interpretation, but what Jeff just said about those who say they are Jews and

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are not. Okay, what you said I believe is unpercent true. I believe that the interpretation can be

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can be more broad than specific. Maybe even in the logic of it, the specific statement Jesus makes

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is broad. How's that meaning this? I can have a dollar bill right now and that dollar bill,

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I can look at it from various angles and isn't it technically six-sided? You've got the edges

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and you've got the faces. Okay, that said it's still a dollar bill. So we can only agree on the fact

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that the seven letters of the seven churches, it's not only history, current, but it's future.

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Look, we know it's future because he says to the Church of Philadelphia, I'm going to keep you from

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that hour that's going to come upon the entire world to test all those. I'll keep you from that

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that time. That said, he says interestingly enough, there will be those who will say they are Jews

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and are not. Is that something of the past? Sure, you just beautifully said so.

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Historical layers of life. Could it be something of the future? Of course. That to me is wild because

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when somebody says, oh, we've replaced the Jews. Right. Big movements doing that. You better watch

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out. Yeah, because don't say that you're a Jew and you're really not. That's true, that's a good

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point. Yeah, absolutely. It's an anathema to God. It is. There's cults like better out there.

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Right. Oh, yeah. Well, I'm going to have a phone call soon with one of those that claim to be

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the replacement of Israel, want all the blessings of Israel. That's it. None of the curses.

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That's it. None of the curses. It's like, no, we're the favored children. When in reality,

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as you know, Romans 9 through 11 spells it out so clearly, is that we're grafted in Romans 11,

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God says, has he rejected his people? Meganoito, he says. The strongest negative, and we would be

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like an expletive almost of our language. No way may God forbid. Yeah. And then verse 29, he says,

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the gifts and callings of God are irrevocable. They're unconditional promises. They're based in

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God and his own character. So friends, listen, you just heard Jeff say Romans chapter 9, Romans chapter 10,

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Romans chapter 11. And it just so happens that last Sunday, I brought up a verse out of Romans 15,

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8. And out of Romans 15, 8, there's an incredible statement there by the Apostle Paul. And I want

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to get there with my blurry eyes. I don't have my glasses. So all of you can test me at home.

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But go to Romans, go to Romans 15, 8. And listen to this. It's precious. And it struck me. I don't

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think it would have struck me as much if we were not living in the times that we are. But with all the

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verbiage that's going on and all the podcasting is doing their podcasting. Listen, listen to this.

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It's Romans 15, verse 8. Now I say that Jesus Christ has become a servant to the circumcision

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for the truth of God to confirm the promises made to the fathers. Is that a pregnant statement?

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This is Romans 15, 8. By the Apostle Paul, that Romans 9, 10 and 11, it's awesome enough that those

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chapters are there. He just doubles down. And he's announcing Jesus Christ, Yeshua, Hama,

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Shia, is the servant Messiah? Because my Jewish friends will tell me who are not yet Christ's

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followers. I'm working on them. They'll say, gosh, but Jesus got himself killed. He can't be

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the one. Armasiah is going to write in on a white horse and just let everybody have it. True

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later, the servant Isaiah 53. To me, Isaiah 53 is screaming at Romans 15, 8. Yeah, absolutely.

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And I love that next verse too. In an order that the Gentiles might glorify God. Again, Gentiles

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humble yourselves. He's using the Jewish people to show you what he's like and how to get grafted

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in. And then he then he cites prophecy for God as it is written. Four times. Therefore, I will

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praise you among the Gentiles and sing your name. Boom. He goes to four. This is what's so great.

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Friends, listen, I don't want to be, I don't want to be crazy about this. I'll try to control myself,

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but if you do not go to a real New Testament church, I'd go find one. And here's what I mean by

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New Testament church. How do you know if your New Testament's true? I imagine if you only read

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the New Testament. How do you know it's true? In fact, even Matthew's trying to help us out

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because Matthew will say, and this is written because this is what happened or this happened

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because it was written. You do not know if your New Testament's even true at all unless you

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studied the Old Testament. How did Paul, Paul did not walk around with a concordance and a New

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Testament. Jesus didn't use a New Testament. Peter didn't use a New Testament. They showed you

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that Christ was Messiah from the Old Testament. And here is Paul writing to us and telling us,

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oh, hey, really Romans 15, 8 and 9, he's saying this, salvation comes through the Jew first and

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then to the Gentile. And that's exactly what Isaiah said would happen. Remarkably. That's right.

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And God's going to take those, the nation of Israel off the back burner, if you will, because they're

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under partial hardening. And he says both in chapter 11 and right here in this chapter, verse 8,

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you quoted, he's doing this for the sake of the promise he made to the fathers. He has to keep

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those promises. He has to keep the promises. He has to. How more clearly can you make it? I mean,

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this was brought home to me recently when I was I was shopping in a very large box store that

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has grills. And of course, we love grills. And I don't know if you know the big green egg. But

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the big green egg is like, yes, I do. It's the ultimate of grills. Yeah, I don't have one.

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It's but I go to people's homes who have it's dangerous because it's so good. But anyway,

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I'm seeing this grill and my wife is always saying, go ahead, get you one. Get you to get you to

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serve this. Well, I'll replace the old one. I'll give the old one to my oldest son for his birthday.

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So I did the same team over. He's like, oh, dad, thank you so much. I said, here's the only thing.

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The thing, why is a ton? You got to come get it. So it's a y'all come get it. Well, one week past,

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two week past three after a while, I'm like, you're not receiving the gift. And I told my wife,

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I said, I mean to some, yeah, I'll get there. I'll get there. And I said, my wife, I said,

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you know, there's a part of me that says, you know what? I think I'll just give it to the other

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son. I'll replace you and your gift with the other son. Then I said, no, I can't do that. You

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can't do that because you gave me my integrity. I gave him my word. Yeah. And so I had to wait

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for the for the first born son to come get the grill, which he eventually did. I gave the other

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son a new and he's enjoying the grill too. So well, enjoy. But the point is it's all based in the

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character of God. People fail to see that that God's very word and character is at stake

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with Israel. He cannot deny them as long as there are stars in the sky. Jeremiah, Jeremiah 31.

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31, there'll be Israel. I think it's Psalm 138 where he says there, I have astamed my word above my

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own name. Think about that statement from him because we know that at that name, at the name of

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Jesus, every evil bow and every time we'll confess that there's no other name given among men,

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whereby we must be saved. And then God says in Psalm 138, I have astamed my word above my own names.

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Yes. So he cannot lie. He cannot go back on something. Somebody might say though, as a critic,

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they might attack us and say, you guys are wrong because God changed his mind. He changed his

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mind there because he told Jonah go there, tell them I'm going to fry him. And he didn't he didn't

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come through. That's that's friend. That's not true. First of all, the nature of God, he has built

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into his very nature. The what's the word? His mercy, his grace will afford for us to repent.

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It's built in, but read the fine print. I think it was some 40 years later. Nineveh was destroyed.

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Next generation. But the beautiful thing about the God of the Bible is that though he pronounced

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judgment, the judgment was paused. It was fulfilled later, but it didn't arrive the way Jonah wanted it

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to go. And I get it. I studied that deeply and I got into Jonah's skin. And I was I was really

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rooting for Jonah because when you realized what the Assyrians did to the Jews, skinning people alive,

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making just like by the way, it's quite remarkable. This we're getting totally off the course here.

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But regarding Nineveh and the Assyrian Empire, I wish I could remember the book I read on this,

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but Adolf Hitler had researchers comb history to find out what was the Jews greatest

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nemesis? What was the Jews worst disasters? What can I learn from history so I could do it to them?

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And did you know that when they made soap out of the bones and lamps out of the skin of Jews

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in World War II, did you know that that's what they did in the Assyrian Empire? And so God tells Jonah,

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Jonah, go tell them, I'm going to fry them. All right, right? And when when God

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pauses because he sees their repentance, Jonah's all angry. I totally relate to Jonah. It's

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like, what are you doing? Why don't you why don't you let him have it? He did let him have it.

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Another generation, but wow, the exactness again of God's word. And the difference there is,

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there was no unconditional promise based on God alone. God's warning. It was the purpose of

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this statement of judgment was to give them time to repent and a chance to repent. Whereas when

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you look at the promises to Israel, they are so crystal clear that they're eternal, that they're

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only solely dependent on God and his character, like you said. Yeah. And then okay, get to the

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New Testament. God's not the author of confusion. Right. Over and over again, we see God's character

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is tied to his word. And just think about it logically, if he could play wishy-washy with his

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promises to Israel, what does that do for us as the church? What do you have to really have confidence?

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No, no, no, you have no. If he doesn't honor those unconditional promises he gave to the Jewish

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people fully, then how can we have any confidence he's not out of his word? That's the confidence

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this generation needs today. That's right. They need the hope that is only found in, like you said,

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the veracity of the Word of God. And that's what, so over here this weekend, to do this very thing,

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to help students understand the hope that can be found, the challenge that we see in Daniel's life,

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but also the trajectory of a life they can live through doing it like Daniel, being like Daniel.

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That's why we're here. And you know the message I find myself, if I could boil it down into a nut

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shell that I want to scream at the top of my lungs to students and everybody else is, you can trust

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this word. It's not a mystery. It's, I mean, it takes some work to learn it, but you can take this

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word and base your life on every single word in this book. You don't have to question it. It's

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inherent. It's authoritative. It guides everything that we do from cover to cover. As soon as you

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veer from that, you're in dangerous territory. You start, well, what is really authoritative?

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What is really inherent? How can we trust it? I mean, there's all kinds of questions that come

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to play if you can't take God's word of face value. So Todd just said, you don't have to question it.

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You know what's amazing about the Bible is, and he's saying you don't have to question it because

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it's reliable, but there's some of you that don't believe it's reliable. And so you would say, well,

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I'm going to question it. That's okay. You know, it's so cool about knowing God's truth,

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God's word. Do you understand that you're not the first one to have that thought of? I'm going to,

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I'm going to prove the Bible wrong. Did you know over history, the more skilled a person is at

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their journey to disprove the Bible, because we want the best of the best to go and prove the

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Bible wrong. So I want you to listen to my loving sarcasm to you right now. I don't believe

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the Bible's true. You can't trust it. It's got all these flaws and all these boobies in it.

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Please find one. Will you do that? Because you listen, you're going to be able to do something that

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Newton was not able to do. You're going to be able to do something that that Voltaire could not do.

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You're going to you're going to achieve something that like Lee Strobel could not. So all

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these guys, Josh McDowell's and others, there's so many others. See us Lewis. Oh man. See us

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Lewis. So many others embarked upon a life's crusade to find the Bible to be an heir.

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And we are still waiting for someone to produce something. Did you know that? So I know that

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you believe that your thought is novel, but it is not. And here's the great thing. Jesus said,

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I have told you these things in advance that when they come to pass, you will believe. He actually

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said, I was going to say, you will believe that I am he. He didn't say that. He said, you will

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believe that I am. He said, a go at me in the Greek language, which is equivalent in the Greek

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language when he said, I've written these things. All right, I told you these things in advance

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that when they happen, you will believe that a go at me. It is the same one who is in the burning

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bush, a top mountain sign, I talking to Moses. And so friends, listen, Bible prophecy is your

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friend. Yes. And the more that you dive into it. And you listen to guys like these two who

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will not tell you, well, this is the how it is. If it's an area of question, they're going to tell

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you there's various views on this part. Or we're waiting for this to be fulfilled. Or it happened

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exactly. And here's the proof of it. Beware of people who say, well, I believe and I think it's

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the way I interpret it. When Peter tells us, no scripture is given for you to have a private

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interpretation. Let God's word be the commentary of his word. It's the greatest thing to do. So

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closing remarks, guys. Well, we're excited about give it hope to this generation. Obviously it's

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one to the point where we've founded a whole new organization to do just that. You got a future

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hope dot now to find it more about it. Future hope dot dot now dot now. We believe that now with

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all this happening in our world and our country and Charlie Kirk and everything else, a door has

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opened. We must go into that door and reach the next generation. It's our job to do it. Yeah.

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So that's what we're trying to do. Amen. And here's the beauty of ministry partnerships and like

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reminded the theology is it was really sparked out of our event here last year. That's right.

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And then we keep you here all day to tell you how God worked all these details that we couldn't

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have fabricated for it all to come together. The right people the right time to the point to where

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now we're trying to take what we learned here and really replicate it all over the country and

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preach the Bible through eschatology and Bible prophecy to students because of what we'd seen.

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And this is before any of the Charlie Kirk stuff or or the recent studies on Gen Z and Gen Alpha

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how open they are to truth which also means they're open to there's a lot of error out there

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trying to fill that void. So we need we feel like we have a mandate with for a limited time to take

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this truth to the next generation either to prepare them for the rapture or pass the batana

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faith so that they can be well grounded through the whole Bible through eschatology for the next

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generation for years to come. I love what you just said about to prepare them for the rapture

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because I was blessed to grow up in a church that to be to be prepared for the rapture is to live

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out passionately every day your Christianity for Jesus fulfilling your ministry occupying

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till he comes right doing the work of an evangelist Paul told Timothy feed the hungry go visit

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those that are hurting go to the prison we do that because we believe he could come back today

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man that's right so we'll wait a minute don't you also have a savings account yes I do

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are you are you planning on doing something in 10 years yes I do I'm occupying till he comes

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I believe he could come today I wish he would come right now and I'm ready but

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and I'll lay this out there we'll end if you're walking around saying yeah I think I got time

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the antichrist hasn't come yet I can kick back I think things I think there's other things

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that are going to have to happen first you know what you're going to get kind of sloppy and the

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last time I read Jesus warned watch out for any servant who says my Lord delays his return

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how about you entertain this that Jesus said you don't know the dear the hour I'm coming

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so you need to be busy about my father's business as the message he showed us that he did so let's

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let's copy him but in doing that I I think that you're going to be more effective for heaven

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and earth how's that old saying go there used to be somebody used to say you're so heavenly

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minded you're no earthly good I think that's impossible that's right right I think if you are

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heavenly minded you will be earthly good and so we're living full throttle and we're hoping that

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Jesus interrupts us and so you guys is great having you just love what you're doing one more plug

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for the book Todd can you hold it up yes so visual guide to the end times it is literally for all ages

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it is completely comprehensive covers everything you really need to know and it distilled form

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and it looks really cool and it's a good coffee table book so lots of reasons to get it I think maybe

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I think maybe you guys ought to think about maybe we need to talk about hosting some sort of big

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gathering I mean great youth it's a good idea yeah right I like like I got to know where like maybe

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it's in like Denver or in St. Louis where the nation can come yeah yeah people can bring their

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young people and it can be a a big night a big day whatever yeah just on this stuff alone yes because

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what a what an what an infusion of hope our young people need hope and Bible prophecy builds hope

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so guys God bless you thank you I love you guys and until next time listen we believe that it's

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time for us to live out what we believe in it it's time for real life and that's what we're all

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