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I usually play with time and space in terms of trying to reframe whatever the issue is

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that I'm upset about and think like, well, what is the expectation that I have and how

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is it on met and how can I shift that expectation and what if the expectations were completely

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different?

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Well, using those things on a regular basis, I think it allowed me to make better decisions

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and be a little bit less emotional or reactive to bad news.

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And I think if you compound that like small amount of space that you can create for yourself

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for an extended period of time, you can make better decisions.

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Welcome to the game where we talk about how to get more customers, how to make more

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requests for and how to keep them longer and the many failures and lessons we have learned

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along the way.

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I hope you enjoy and subscribe.

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For people who are looking to get started, what do you think is the best business?

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Is there people to get into right now?

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I think the best business for someone to start if they've never started a business before

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is something that they already have tangential experience with.

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And so usually you have parents, friends, family, first jobs that you have some industry

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knowledge.

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So if you look at like Y Combinator, for example, they look for founders who have lived with

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the problem and or have industry experience.

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And so if you have both of those things like the likelihood that you will be successful

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with the endeavor that you're going in is significantly higher because there's a huge

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learning curve to entering any new industry.

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And if you can just pay down some of that ignorance tax, even if the opportunity vehicle

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isn't the perfect one, you will still have a significantly higher likelihood of winning.

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And one of the big fallacies of your first business is that it's going to be your last

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business and it almost never is.

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And so the idea is like it's much more valuable to get started on something that you have

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a higher likelihood of success on so that you can get some faster rewards for the behavior

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of getting into business.

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And then from there, get some resources, get some skills.

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And then you can have a better perspective from which to make a jump or a decision on

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what to do next.

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And at least that's my two cents on it.

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We were at the gym, Jack and I the other day, actually two people came us up to us.

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And they said that they love the podcast that we did together the first one.

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Yeah.

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I think that's how they found the podcast.

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But that was there both people separate reference that podcast like yo, and one person said

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when you're going to have Hormosi back on, he said, well coincidence, you know, he's

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coming in like the next week, they had a question for you that I told them I would ask

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it.

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So if you ever see me in person, you want to have me ask Alex or Moses something, you

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just ask.

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He was a W to employee.

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Okay.

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And he says you really likes your content and wants to know your advice to people who aren't

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selling anything, but they're an employee and they want to make more money.

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They want to get better at what they're doing.

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How could they apply your advice to them?

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You have to figure out how your job directly ties to revenue in the business.

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And if you don't know ask like fundamental, like if you don't know how your job makes

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the business money, then ask.

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And then once you understand how you directly tie to money, then drive towards that because

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fundamentally every position in the business makes the business more money.

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If the job is well designed, otherwise, why are you there?

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Right.

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I mean, even if you're like, I'm a frontline customer service officer, it's like, okay,

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well, how do you like if I had to ask that person like, how do you make the business money?

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The answer is, if I do a good job, people will come back and buy again.

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If I do a good job, we'll have a lower percentage people will refund.

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If I do a good job, the business will be able to command higher prices off of word of mouth

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in the future.

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Like these are the things that you can explain until I go, okay, well, then if those are

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the things that drive revenue, then I'm going to try and focus on those things.

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And then you can ask your boss, and this is a great question is, what would it take

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for me to make this?

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It's not saying I need to make that.

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It's just asking them to solve the problem.

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Like, what would it take for me to earn that?

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And then they can give you an objective metric.

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Now your boss might not be high enough and then you say, cool, can you ask the person

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above you?

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By doing it that way, you're also being clear like, I want to make the business more

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money and in doing so, I would like a small percentage of the increase that I'm able

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to bring.

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Like, what would it take?

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And I think that's a great way to have that conversation.

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Leila, my wife also makes tons of content for like how to ask for raises, how to negotiate

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that stuff on her channel as a side note when she's more knowledgeable than I am.

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I do think though, a lot of careers out there will never give you that opportunity.

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You say I want to make more money or I want to do more.

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They're going to say, you get back to your desk.

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Just focus.

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You just focus on that.

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And there aren't really those opportunities out there in those situations.

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Would you recommend looking for work elsewhere?

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I think small businesses are a good opportunity for that stuff.

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So if you're like in a massive corporation, you can quickly cap out and get like lost in

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the shuffle if it's this massive org.

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And so I think it makes sense to go get basically a stamp of approval from maybe a name brand

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company that you can then leverage into a smaller business that you'll have a lot more

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impact.

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A lot more opportunity for growth.

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Most entrepreneurs are far more receptive than anyone who says, I will help you make more

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money.

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So again, if you can change your environment, you'll often be able to change your behavior.

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By the way, I meant to ask this earlier, I noticed we had a bit of a problem actually.

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It's on Instagram.

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I know that you're not following me back on Instagram.

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Oh, shoot.

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Yeah.

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Oh.

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So he's labeling this as something that's bad.

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What do you have to say about that?

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I think it's terrible.

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I only follow comedy.

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Comedy and philosophy accounts.

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Yeah.

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The only two truth stories.

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And what do you get from those accounts by watching?

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I do.

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I do.

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Okay.

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Both give me context on life.

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So make me laugh.

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So make me think.

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Who are your favorite comedians?

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Oh, man.

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I have so many.

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I mean, I follow a lot of comedians.

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Like, I basically follow any comedian I see on my news feed who makes comedy regularly.

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Like if I click over their page and they feel like one comedy video and a bunch of like

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not videos, then I won't follow them.

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But if they make regular comedy clips, I will almost guarantee follow them no matter how

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big they are.

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I like Andrew Schultz, Whitney Cummings, Sam Moral, Mark Normand, I like Neem and Oz.

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Matt Reif has obviously been working on.

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Matt Reif is amazing.

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He's great.

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There's so many.

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Bill Burr, Nate Parkazzi.

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There's so many.

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I'm just like naming names off the top.

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I like a lot of comedy.

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I mean, if there's comedy, I like it.

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Do you like a Norm McDonald's comedy?

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I love it.

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I mean, I'm a cheap date when it comes to comedy.

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Basically, the only thing I don't like is like lazy comedy, just like a crude comedy

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for the sake of being crude, like that stuff, I don't like, I don't think it's like

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Theo Vaughn.

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It's great.

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Great existence.

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Not of that.

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He's also another great comedian.

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That's really like comedy.

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Do you like live shows?

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Do you listen to comedy podcasts ever?

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I don't listen to comedy podcasts.

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I watch their routines and I go to shows and I watch their clips.

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The comedy podcast are hilarious.

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I think the podcast really is.

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20 times better than life.

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Oh, Tom Segera, Birkreich shirt.

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I mean, there's a ton of this.

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I mean, there's so many.

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I think Big Joke is in small, but I actually really love his stuff.

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There's so many.

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I prefer the podcast.

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I prefer the comedy.

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Interesting.

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Good to know.

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I actually just don't listen to podcasts in general.

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I'm not a podcaster.

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I think like the the candid comedy in a podcast is 10 times better than rehab.

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Super contextual.

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Cause they have to like the bit has to be funny every time in every single place.

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With a cold audience.

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They're warmed up with like things that got said earlier and it's like relevant to

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Like they can actually be, you know, hilarious.

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But no, I don't listen to podcasts ever.

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I listen to Elon Musk every time he goes on to a road.

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But I watched it really.

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So what sort of media do you consume?

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Twitter or X?

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I can.

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That's my most active platform.

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That's someone that I'm on.

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Like by far the most.

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Is it you that tweets?

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It's me on every.

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That's you everything.

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Everything's me.

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Everything's me.

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I manage everything.

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I make the date of the agents.

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Anybody was dead.

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You're dead.

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I like it.

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That's the way that you get validity for.

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I mean, I mean, you know, at一點 like some of the stoics, I mean, I like those guys

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and you've some of the dark or even a dusty epsilon.

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Some of the other things.

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If they're dead, though, how do they post?

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Grant.

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Question.

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What?

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I think it's like excerpts.

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For us to make a joke.

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I was trying to make a joke.

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I just do a thing.

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Sorry.

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Fair enough.

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Good.

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You mean media, it'll follow you.

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Classic fruit, classic fruit.

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You know,

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don't go.

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Don't go.

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Don't go.

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It's true.

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For context, guys, I got this haircut this morning and Graham said I looked like white

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fruit off the rip off the rip.

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He didn't even say like nice haircut is like, you know, it's not like a compliment sandwich.

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It was just like a straight straight fruit.

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White fruit.

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We have any glasses.

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I am not putting on glasses.

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It would actually be, dude, if you had a, if you had a tie on and like a slightly gray

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brown suit, you'd slay it.

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Oh, thank you.

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You dig.

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I just walk around on the strap.

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I just get approached by women.

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People would go, people would be trying to say pictures for you.

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They'd be like, oh, my God.

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I just really don't think I looked like white fruit that much, but maybe I could be, maybe

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I could be wrong.

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Maybe I should put the one I had or something, I guess.

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I think you should change your gender profile to this, put the suit on, put the glasses on

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and just say like, if you own it, it's attractive and I learned this from you.

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You said that one time you were in the car with some frat brother and the frat brother

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was making out with some girl in the back of the car and he was like, what was it chewing

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tobacco?

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Or something at the same time.

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You're like, dude, how is she not disgusted by you right now?

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And he was just like, because I don't care.

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Which for me, I still think about that to this.

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Yeah, but you could be owning the wrong thing.

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Well, I don't, I will count with the fact that I think you can own wherever you want.

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Yeah, I think you can own whatever you want.

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I think there's some things that shouldn't be worth owning.

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I think it's the confidence.

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But like if you do that, then chances are you're probably not going to be able to get

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it.

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Like imagine you owning being an in-cell, you know, like I'm owning it, like that's not

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going to be attractive.

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That's a good point.

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That's a really good point.

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Yeah.

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So I think Coco Chanel said fashion is whatever you can get away with and I kind of just

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like that.

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And I mean, it's one of the, you know, most fashionable women of all time like icons.

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I feel like she has a good perspective on like what fashion is and it's just whatever

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you can get away with.

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And I like that.

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That's a good point.

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I feel like a modern fashion.

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You look at it and you're like this person looks like an animal to even look like human

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at that point.

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I don't mean with the point of these runway shows is at all.

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It's actually a money thing.

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So I only know this because my wife buys lots of expensive things.

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So those runway, so many of the outfits there are made to look high fashion.

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And then the people who are in attendance there, it's like a huge honor to be like invited

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by like Stella McCartney or Coco Chanel or whoever or Gucci to attend the runway show.

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Like it's a, like usually you have to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars a year to get

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invited to one of those shows and it's usually like on their clothing.

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Yeah.

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It's like 20 people a year get invited hand selects across the whole nation to get invited

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as like consumers.

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And then while you're there, they'll parade these, you know, people around and then you're

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somewhat expected to bid on the actual outfits themselves.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Fits are so atrocious.

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I mean, it was like you never actually wear that out to like Walmart.

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You know what I mean?

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You would never wear these things.

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You'd be amazed.

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You'd be amazed.

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And sometimes it's not the whole outfit.

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Sometimes it's a piece of it or it's a hat or a blouse or whatever.

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It's like, it'll be like, it'll be like 50,000, 100,000 more dresses.

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Like to me, it seems like the ugliest clothing that they could get away with.

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I, to me, it seems like a social experiment.

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Like how wild social experiment can we make this?

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There's a camera there.

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There's a camera.

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I'm waiting for the joke to come like 20 years later because I've seen some of these

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things with like shoes with a goldfish in them.

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Yeah.

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It's stupid.

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Oh, there's like these necklaces pendant things with a turtle inside of it.

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It's so alive.

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Yeah.

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Like a baby turtle.

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Are you serious?

321
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I've seen that before.

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But it's just, but in a way, we're a turtle, right?

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Well, for like 24 hours maybe, right?

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I mean, about the life it gets to lead.

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I mean, the comparison is just like it's just floating around water all day.

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Here it like, it's the travel world.

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It gets to like hang out with me.

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I bet if you asked the turtle, I'd probably say it preferred that too.

329
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Right.

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I saw this video and it was someone who did a social experiment where they created like

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this new hip store where they got like, I think it was like H&M and like cheap.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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But it's from Payless shoe store.

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And then all of these people came and started blogging about it and like, oh my God, this

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is so cute.

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This is amazing.

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But it's all just cheap.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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They bought it was like $500 to $700 shoes.

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And they just only use payless shoes and had people review them afterwards.

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The influencers.

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Yeah.

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By the way.

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Well, it really goes to show you how important marketing is if you just brand.

347
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Yeah.

348
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Okay.

349
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That's all it is.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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You have no idea.

353
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Yeah.

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Like this shirt.

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Oh my God.

356
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Do you think this shirt?

357
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Nice.

358
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Yes, how much?

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Yes, how much?

360
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I'm guessing this shirt right here, I can tell based off the material alone, $700, $300.

361
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How do you think it is?

362
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I haven't felt it.

363
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Give it a little touch, man.

364
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You could feel it if you want to.

365
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Yeah.

366
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I feel like old Lulu.

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I'm going to go 60.

368
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$60?

369
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Yeah.

370
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No, it's Tom Ford.

371
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No, is it?

372
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Yeah, really.

373
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I didn't know you were in expensive clothes.

374
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No, it's free.

375
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It's free.

376
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Yeah.

377
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I'm not spending money.

378
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No, that would be amazing.

379
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No.

380
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Jason and Brett Oppenheim, give me their clothing, and they had the brokerage that he used.

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Oppenheim.

382
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Okay.

383
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Yeah.

384
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So they buy some of the nicest stuff, but you know, over time, it'll shrink.

385
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So when it shrinks, it no longer fits them, but it fits me perfectly.

386
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So I get all their handy deals.

387
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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Most mean.

390
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So I have a whole wardrobe of almost exclusively Tom Ford and Dior.

391
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Well, I buy brand new tank tops.

392
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I'll just like let the record show.

393
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How many times do you wear them before you toss them?

394
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Honestly, I don't know.

395
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You said that your wife, Layla, has very expensive taste.

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Does this ever bother you?

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If she was like, Alex, I want to buy a $50,000 purse.

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You'd be like, no, for Alex, it's pennies.

399
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It's like, you wouldn't care.

400
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No, she does that.

401
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She's like, no, she does whatever she wants.

402
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But not a single part of you.

403
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I also sheer answer.

404
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Like, we do this together.

405
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But it's the joint thing, right?

406
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Yeah.

407
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Exactly.

408
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I mean, I spend money like Jim equipment.

409
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That's like what I like.

410
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That's like the one thing that I spend my own.

411
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Some more new equipment.

412
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Like, they're not coming out with new machines every month, right?

413
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I mean, they do come out with new machines.

414
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They do?

415
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Yeah, for sure.

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Every month.

417
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It's like a fashion show.

418
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Is it inside your apartment?

419
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No.

420
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So we just bought the old UFC headquarters.

421
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Yeah.

422
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And so there's a huge chunk of space.

423
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Yeah.

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So we're making a massive gym there.

425
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So that'll probably cost like, I don't know, $450 grand, all in.

426
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But like, so it's like how many purses could she have?

427
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Probably a lot, you know?

428
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Right.

429
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But like, I just buy, you know, my stuff's a little chunkier than hers is.

430
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Like Layla wanted to have nice things her whole life.

431
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And so we have the ability to do that.

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So what do I gain by depriving her of that?

433
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It's not like it puts us in any kind of different financial situation than we are now.

434
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If her spending in any way materially affected our goals, she wouldn't do it.

435
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Like she's only done that when it basically doesn't affect us in any real way.

436
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Why would I stop her from doing that?

437
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Like why have the money to begin with?

438
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But have you ever thought of the reason why she wants the expensive things and why she

439
00:14:02.520 --> 00:14:03.520
wants to?

440
00:14:03.520 --> 00:14:04.680
Because she knows the answer either.

441
00:14:04.680 --> 00:14:05.680
Who knows?

442
00:14:05.680 --> 00:14:09.360
Like when people ask why, we just guess an answer.

443
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And we answer with things that we've answered in the past that people have given us approval

444
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for.

445
00:14:13.200 --> 00:14:14.520
So it's like, why are you so motivated Alex?

446
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I could be like, my father never gave me enough approval.

447
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I could say my mother didn't pay enough attention to me.

448
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I could say I had a teacher who encouraged me early on or I spoke once in class and I did

449
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a good job and I really wanted to do more of that.

450
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Like I could make up a hundred different reasons.

451
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But all we know is that I do these things.

452
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And I think just erasing the why and the because it just makes the life a lot easier because

453
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you don't have to deal with it.

454
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So it's like the two things that I've been focused a lot on, it's like elimination of

455
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should, which I think I talked a lot about on one of the first podcasts we did together.

456
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And I'd say like my focus right now is kind of elimination of why and because we don't

457
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know.

458
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You have no idea.

459
00:14:46.560 --> 00:14:47.560
Like I don't know.

460
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Like I think he was, it's like when someone tries to guess your intention.

461
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It's like, you don't know, I don't know why I said that.

462
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And the real reason, I don't know why I said that.

463
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We just know that I said it and just focus on that and that's just been easier in terms

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of like communicating with other people, managing relationships, even persuasion.

465
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It's like, it's trying to be like, you did this because you don't know, stick to what

466
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you can observe.

467
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And that's just made my life a lot easier.

468
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It appears like it's a part of human nature to come up with all of these extra details,

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problems, justifications, etc., explanations for certain things.

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Why is it in our nature to continually do this and complicate things when you, when you

471
00:15:23.880 --> 00:15:25.960
explain things, it's just so simple.

472
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I have no idea.

473
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I know that we do it.

474
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I don't know why.

475
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That is so unfair.

476
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That is, I mean, it's a perfect one.

477
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Why is it unfair?

478
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No, it's a great answer.

479
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No, it's a great answer.

480
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It's a great answer.

481
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It's like, I can make something up if you want, but like it'll just be made up.

482
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Yeah.

483
00:15:42.240 --> 00:15:46.360
And to be fair, most people will just make up, you know, answers to questions of like,

484
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why?

485
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And it's a hard balance for me because sometimes I'll get on podcasts and like the more

486
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strict I have and kind of to do a certain degree, like what mood I'm in.

487
00:15:53.160 --> 00:15:56.840
I might answer very much more strictly on that, but it can sometimes make for a more

488
00:15:56.840 --> 00:15:59.120
boring podcast experience because people are like, fine.

489
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So we don't know anything.

490
00:16:00.120 --> 00:16:01.120
I'm like, yeah, exactly.

491
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Yeah.

492
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It's interesting for me to for you to go from like Layla wants and has all these nice

493
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things to you where you're just like, I'm just going to get down to the basics.

494
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Why do I want this?

495
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Do I really need it?

496
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No.

497
00:16:11.080 --> 00:16:15.600
It seems like Layla is very much an opposite and that she'll just say, I want it.

498
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I don't need to think about why I want it.

499
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What this means.

500
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I just want it.

501
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I'm not going to put any more effort into that.

502
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There was a boat big yacht that had a name on it that I really liked and it was a don't

503
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analyze your pleasures.

504
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And she knows that she likes it.

505
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And I like that she likes it.

506
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And like, what is wrong with that?

507
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Like the only reason that someone would have any objection to that is simply because of

508
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the price tag associated with it.

509
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If she liked buying one dollar clothes, no one would have any issue with it.

510
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It's just because it's expensive, but that's based on their understanding of expensive,

511
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not necessarily my context.

512
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And even if it was, even if I had me the exact amount of money as whoever would be judging

513
00:16:47.920 --> 00:16:51.760
me for judging Layla for buying clothing like that, why do you care how I spend my money?

514
00:16:51.760 --> 00:16:53.760
Yeah.

515
00:16:53.760 --> 00:16:54.760
Spend yours your way.

516
00:16:54.760 --> 00:16:58.360
Because basically them expressing that is expressing their preference that I would live.

517
00:16:58.360 --> 00:17:00.760
They would prefer that I live the way they live their lives.

518
00:17:00.760 --> 00:17:01.760
Sure.

519
00:17:01.760 --> 00:17:04.480
But like, why don't you just keep living your life the way you prefer, no, keep living

520
00:17:04.480 --> 00:17:05.480
my life the way I prefer.

521
00:17:05.480 --> 00:17:08.480
I don't prefer that you live your life, I live your life, I live your life, I live your

522
00:17:08.480 --> 00:17:09.480
life.

523
00:17:09.480 --> 00:17:10.480
Yeah.

524
00:17:10.480 --> 00:17:11.480
Yeah.

525
00:17:11.480 --> 00:17:12.480
Two if you want.

526
00:17:12.480 --> 00:17:13.480
Okay.

527
00:17:13.480 --> 00:17:14.480
Yeah.

528
00:17:14.480 --> 00:17:16.400
If there's like, that's my, like, no shit, elimination of shit, elimination of wine because

529
00:17:16.400 --> 00:17:18.240
that would be my, you know, presidential campaign.

530
00:17:18.240 --> 00:17:20.560
No sheds, no whys and no becausees.

531
00:17:20.560 --> 00:17:23.960
Do you think if you were president that you could do a better job or you could do a great

532
00:17:23.960 --> 00:17:24.960
job?

533
00:17:24.960 --> 00:17:25.960
No.

534
00:17:25.960 --> 00:17:26.960
I think I would do more.

535
00:17:26.960 --> 00:17:27.960
Do you think so?

536
00:17:28.760 --> 00:17:31.880
I heard this question, I heard this question online and everyone's like, say, oh, you

537
00:17:31.880 --> 00:17:33.720
should ask people this question to see what they say.

538
00:17:33.720 --> 00:17:34.720
I don't know.

539
00:17:34.720 --> 00:17:36.440
I have no aspirations or desires.

540
00:17:36.440 --> 00:17:39.120
I have actually had a conversation this morning about that.

541
00:17:39.120 --> 00:17:42.680
This one's like, man, if you like to talk about politics, you'd go so much wider.

542
00:17:42.680 --> 00:17:45.800
I don't have interest, like, I've never been interested in politics.

543
00:17:45.800 --> 00:17:46.880
I don't follow the news.

544
00:17:46.880 --> 00:17:51.520
I like, again, the only thing that I consume is something that as it relates to how we

545
00:17:51.520 --> 00:17:54.600
make money and how we run our businesses.

546
00:17:54.600 --> 00:17:57.520
That is the only thing that I like, I'll consume anything tangentially to that.

547
00:17:57.520 --> 00:17:58.520
That's it.

548
00:17:58.520 --> 00:18:01.840
If I was in healthcare, I'd probably be looking more about what, if I was like getting

549
00:18:01.840 --> 00:18:05.480
into HRT, like, hormone replacement therapy as an industry phone to get into, then I'd

550
00:18:05.480 --> 00:18:09.080
be looking at legislation that's pending that might make some of our reclassivism,

551
00:18:09.080 --> 00:18:11.080
some of the drugs that we might be selling or something like that.

552
00:18:11.080 --> 00:18:13.480
I would be something that would be interesting, but it wasn't because of the politics.

553
00:18:13.480 --> 00:18:15.400
I would just be interested because of the economics.

554
00:18:15.400 --> 00:18:16.400
One, I don't have interest.

555
00:18:16.400 --> 00:18:19.760
The second is that I'm not very knowledgeable about it and those kind of go hand in hand.

556
00:18:19.760 --> 00:18:24.000
If I were to be someone to ask me a political question, I don't have any skill of interest.

557
00:18:24.000 --> 00:18:26.680
I have no knowledge on that.

558
00:18:26.680 --> 00:18:29.720
If I made a point, people probably have an excellent counterpoint and they'd be like,

559
00:18:29.720 --> 00:18:30.720
what do you think about that?

560
00:18:30.720 --> 00:18:31.720
You're probably right.

561
00:18:31.720 --> 00:18:32.720
I don't spend time on this.

562
00:18:32.720 --> 00:18:36.840
I feel like I would be making an ignorant, I'd be giving ignorant advice.

563
00:18:36.840 --> 00:18:39.480
If I were to do anything, you would just be like from first principles and I'm sure there's

564
00:18:39.480 --> 00:18:43.520
many things that get in the way of that from a legislative perspective and whatnot.

565
00:18:43.520 --> 00:18:46.200
I focus on the things that I am good at and that I enjoy.

566
00:18:46.200 --> 00:18:48.360
Is there anything you're unhappy about?

567
00:18:48.360 --> 00:18:52.080
I would say I have the same complaints that any entrepreneur would, which is like I always

568
00:18:52.080 --> 00:18:58.240
want things to happen faster, but I also realize that and try to adjust my expectations appropriately

569
00:18:58.240 --> 00:18:59.880
and talk to Solomon and be like, well, what did you expect?

570
00:18:59.880 --> 00:19:00.880
I've already given me advice.

571
00:19:00.880 --> 00:19:05.200
I'd be like, you're doing fine and it's actually happening faster than you originally thought

572
00:19:05.200 --> 00:19:06.200
as what happened.

573
00:19:06.200 --> 00:19:08.840
Are you really just readjusting your expectations so that you can be satisfied?

574
00:19:08.840 --> 00:19:10.000
Well, that sounds silly.

575
00:19:10.000 --> 00:19:11.000
I like my life.

576
00:19:11.000 --> 00:19:13.840
It's odd nowadays to just be like, I like my life.

577
00:19:13.840 --> 00:19:18.880
I've spent a lot of effort to create an environment with people that I enjoy doing things that

578
00:19:18.880 --> 00:19:19.880
I enjoy.

579
00:19:19.880 --> 00:19:24.280
The things day-to-day that come up that are stressors, of course, like that's any business,

580
00:19:24.280 --> 00:19:29.000
anything you do has overhead, but I like what I do every day and I think I'm pretty good

581
00:19:29.000 --> 00:19:33.160
at it and that brings me a lot of adrenaline.

582
00:19:33.160 --> 00:19:37.160
When you wake up, you'd say the off-the-rep promotion that you feel is tired.

583
00:19:37.160 --> 00:19:40.440
How much sleep do you get?

584
00:19:40.440 --> 00:19:45.840
Oh, I mean, if I get eight, I can like cure cancer, so I try to, I got two eight hours

585
00:19:45.840 --> 00:19:50.400
of sleep in a row this last week and I was like, I could literally repaint the Mona Lisa

586
00:19:50.400 --> 00:19:51.400
right now.

587
00:19:51.400 --> 00:19:52.400
Like, I felt so good.

588
00:19:52.400 --> 00:19:55.320
What occupies that time that would inhibit you to get eight hours?

589
00:19:55.320 --> 00:19:56.400
Nothing inhibits me from getting eight hours.

590
00:19:56.400 --> 00:19:59.560
I just wake up earlier, that's more, that's like more off than what happened.

591
00:19:59.560 --> 00:20:00.560
Oh, really?

592
00:20:00.560 --> 00:20:03.560
Yeah, I haven't, I haven't put a lot more, yeah, I haven't put an alarm on it.

593
00:20:03.560 --> 00:20:04.560
How do you do that?

594
00:20:04.560 --> 00:20:05.560
Forever.

595
00:20:05.560 --> 00:20:07.560
Upon first wake up, do you get up or do sometimes things like that?

596
00:20:07.560 --> 00:20:08.560
No, I try.

597
00:20:08.560 --> 00:20:10.920
If I can, if I can go back to sleep by well, but I, I mean, there's a lot of things I

598
00:20:10.920 --> 00:20:11.920
want to do.

599
00:20:11.920 --> 00:20:12.920
And so like, I get excited.

600
00:20:12.920 --> 00:20:13.920
Yeah.

601
00:20:13.920 --> 00:20:16.840
I'll be physically tired, but like I'm excited mentally, like I'm my brain will turn

602
00:20:16.840 --> 00:20:18.840
on and I'm like, oh, there's all these things I want to do.

603
00:20:18.840 --> 00:20:23.600
I mean, there was a time when I, I had one of those rings that like, did your sleep stuff.

604
00:20:23.600 --> 00:20:29.040
I got more annoyed about the ring than I, because I, maybe indication of how much I've

605
00:20:29.040 --> 00:20:33.040
changed over time, I was 22 the last time I did that, so I was 12 years ago.

606
00:20:33.040 --> 00:20:37.560
But I got so competitive with myself, it's trying to like beat my last night's PR that

607
00:20:37.560 --> 00:20:38.560
I would like stress about trying it.

608
00:20:38.560 --> 00:20:41.800
Like I would like not move so that it wouldn't like wake the ring up to think that I was

609
00:20:41.800 --> 00:20:42.800
sleeping.

610
00:20:43.120 --> 00:20:45.080
And then I was like, I'm sleeping worse now that I have this ring on.

611
00:20:45.080 --> 00:20:49.080
So like, and if anything, I'd wake up the next day and would give me a reason why like

612
00:20:49.080 --> 00:20:50.960
the day would, like, it would tell me if I was going to have a good or bad day.

613
00:20:50.960 --> 00:20:53.800
And I was like, well, that's silly because I've had plenty of days that have been very

614
00:20:53.800 --> 00:20:54.800
little sleep in great days.

615
00:20:54.800 --> 00:20:55.800
And I've had days right.

616
00:20:55.800 --> 00:20:56.800
You know what?

617
00:20:56.800 --> 00:20:58.560
Because I have the aura ring and I use it a lot.

618
00:20:58.560 --> 00:21:02.240
And I do say that when I see in the morning that says like, you did not get a good night

619
00:21:02.240 --> 00:21:03.240
of rest.

620
00:21:03.240 --> 00:21:04.240
Yeah.

621
00:21:04.240 --> 00:21:05.240
Be careful today.

622
00:21:05.240 --> 00:21:06.240
Yeah.

623
00:21:06.240 --> 00:21:07.240
It does kind of put me in a mood.

624
00:21:07.240 --> 00:21:08.240
Oh crap.

625
00:21:08.240 --> 00:21:09.240
Yeah, yeah, it's telling me I got to be careful.

626
00:21:09.240 --> 00:21:10.840
I wouldn't have even thought about that.

627
00:21:10.840 --> 00:21:11.840
Yeah.

628
00:21:11.840 --> 00:21:15.520
And now planted in my mind that maybe I'm going to be a little slower today.

629
00:21:15.520 --> 00:21:18.760
Well, that's like the superstition stuff that I've talked about where it's like Dr.

630
00:21:18.760 --> 00:21:19.760
Cashier, a good buddy of mine.

631
00:21:19.760 --> 00:21:24.280
He says he defines a scam as something that if you remove it, your functioning gets worse.

632
00:21:24.280 --> 00:21:27.120
And so it's like basically we create these crutches.

633
00:21:27.120 --> 00:21:29.680
So it's like, oh man, if I don't have my green juice in the morning, like I feel, if I

634
00:21:29.680 --> 00:21:32.720
feel terrible, but then after a while you start to be able to only take the green juice

635
00:21:32.720 --> 00:21:35.800
just to feel normal, well, then if I take the green juice away, then I feel bad, well,

636
00:21:35.800 --> 00:21:36.800
then that's the scam.

637
00:21:36.800 --> 00:21:38.600
Like that doesn't, it doesn't actually do anything.

638
00:21:38.600 --> 00:21:40.040
It's not, it doesn't work.

639
00:21:40.040 --> 00:21:43.800
And so I just, I'm super cautious and to like to your point about like creating the

640
00:21:43.800 --> 00:21:46.520
very earlier, it's like, I just really try not to be superstitious about it.

641
00:21:46.520 --> 00:21:50.600
I think because I want, I want to have as many of the controls under my controls I can.

642
00:21:50.600 --> 00:21:55.200
And if I, like I love the idea of competing at somebody who has a million crutches, it's

643
00:21:55.200 --> 00:21:57.880
like you just knock one of them out and they're, they're screwed.

644
00:21:57.880 --> 00:22:01.880
Like, like if my competitor like, if I don't have eight hours of sleep, I'm a bear.

645
00:22:01.880 --> 00:22:04.880
It's like, well, I can't wait for you to have one bad night's sleep.

646
00:22:04.880 --> 00:22:08.680
And then I'll just win that day because I don't mind having a short night's sleep in

647
00:22:08.680 --> 00:22:11.320
the working, like I work fine.

648
00:22:11.320 --> 00:22:14.800
So anyway, all that to say, sometimes I sleep shorter and sometimes I sleep longer.

649
00:22:14.800 --> 00:22:16.480
I sleep as long as I can.

650
00:22:16.480 --> 00:22:17.480
With Laila.

651
00:22:17.480 --> 00:22:20.480
I know we kind of like alluded to this in like previous conversations, a lot about Laila.

652
00:22:20.480 --> 00:22:21.480
But I can't.

653
00:22:21.480 --> 00:22:22.480
I always about Laila.

654
00:22:22.480 --> 00:22:23.480
I'm sorry.

655
00:22:23.480 --> 00:22:24.480
I'm sorry, but she's got an interest too.

656
00:22:24.480 --> 00:22:25.480
Yeah.

657
00:22:25.480 --> 00:22:26.480
She's interesting.

658
00:22:26.480 --> 00:22:27.480
Okay.

659
00:22:27.480 --> 00:22:28.480
You guys live.

660
00:22:28.480 --> 00:22:33.680
I'm sure incredibly challenging, incredibly busy lives and maintaining a relationship.

661
00:22:33.680 --> 00:22:37.360
I know we've talked about this before, but maintaining a relationship in that environment

662
00:22:37.360 --> 00:22:39.960
can be incredibly challenging.

663
00:22:39.960 --> 00:22:45.720
And you said last time that you have an algorithm, like you have logic that determines the success

664
00:22:45.720 --> 00:22:47.560
of your relationship with Laila.

665
00:22:47.560 --> 00:22:50.600
And if something isn't fitting, then you need to change the inputs.

666
00:22:50.600 --> 00:22:51.600
Sure.

667
00:22:51.600 --> 00:22:57.040
I'm wondering, has it continued to serve you, to see it as an algorithm?

668
00:22:57.040 --> 00:23:02.080
Because I like to think that love is this thing, that it's more of like a nondescript

669
00:23:02.080 --> 00:23:04.680
thing, that kind of just like occurs between two people.

670
00:23:04.680 --> 00:23:07.760
It's not so like algorithmic and equational, you know what I mean?

671
00:23:07.760 --> 00:23:11.280
Well, I think just for the audience sake, it's not like I have this excelle sheet at home

672
00:23:11.280 --> 00:23:16.200
of like, okay, three oz equals, you know, like a kiss or something, I mean, I don't

673
00:23:16.200 --> 00:23:17.200
have like...

674
00:23:17.200 --> 00:23:18.200
Well, Chanel bag.

675
00:23:18.200 --> 00:23:20.680
Yeah, one Chanel bag equals two good days, you know, whatever, you know.

676
00:23:20.680 --> 00:23:23.920
Well, I would say this, which is that if you feel like it is that ephemeral thing that's

677
00:23:23.920 --> 00:23:27.520
so hard to capture and so hard to describe, like I would be like good luck finding it.

678
00:23:27.520 --> 00:23:31.160
And honestly, I think the big difficulty with love and marriages in general is that everything

679
00:23:31.160 --> 00:23:32.880
is n equals one.

680
00:23:32.880 --> 00:23:36.880
So even like my relationship with Layla is unique in that I am one of one and she's one

681
00:23:36.880 --> 00:23:37.880
of one.

682
00:23:37.880 --> 00:23:41.600
And I've seen, and you probably have to, I've seen like 60 year marriages, you know, people

683
00:23:41.600 --> 00:23:46.240
were 90 in their 90s, very different dynamics with all of them.

684
00:23:46.240 --> 00:23:49.640
And like you guys have a unique partnership for this podcast.

685
00:23:49.640 --> 00:23:53.760
And everybody else is unique dynamics for their partnership and we know what has worked

686
00:23:53.760 --> 00:23:54.760
for them.

687
00:23:54.760 --> 00:23:58.320
I share what has worked for me if some of those things help other people awesome if they

688
00:23:58.320 --> 00:24:00.200
don't then ignore them, you know.

689
00:24:00.200 --> 00:24:06.080
Both of us tend to be very agreement oriented, meaning neither of us like to be controlled.

690
00:24:06.080 --> 00:24:09.960
Both of us have a lot of agency, like we like to make our own decisions and kind of operate

691
00:24:09.960 --> 00:24:10.960
freely.

692
00:24:10.960 --> 00:24:14.840
And so like how do you get two people together that are really strongly independent?

693
00:24:14.840 --> 00:24:16.040
We make agreements.

694
00:24:16.040 --> 00:24:18.240
And like these are like I agree to these things, you agree to these things.

695
00:24:18.240 --> 00:24:20.720
And like as long as that works for us, then we don't change the agreement.

696
00:24:20.720 --> 00:24:21.720
It's worked great.

697
00:24:21.720 --> 00:24:24.040
And if we, if something comes up, then it's like, hey, let's revisit this.

698
00:24:24.040 --> 00:24:25.800
And if it makes sense, then we revisit it.

699
00:24:25.800 --> 00:24:30.000
And that has worked really well because we have exceedingly clear expectations of one

700
00:24:30.000 --> 00:24:33.560
another in terms of like what we're going to do and what we're not going to do.

701
00:24:33.560 --> 00:24:35.120
And that has worked really well.

702
00:24:35.120 --> 00:24:38.320
And there's always resolve between these disagreements.

703
00:24:38.320 --> 00:24:39.320
Yeah.

704
00:24:39.320 --> 00:24:40.320
Eventually.

705
00:24:40.320 --> 00:24:41.320
I mean, pretty quickly, usually.

706
00:24:41.320 --> 00:24:42.320
Yeah.

707
00:24:42.320 --> 00:24:43.320
We don't argue much.

708
00:24:43.320 --> 00:24:46.840
Do you have some other like silver lining that kind of not silver lining, but like other

709
00:24:46.840 --> 00:24:49.760
thing that arbitrates these disagreements between you and her?

710
00:24:49.760 --> 00:24:54.360
Maybe some fundamental agreements that you made right in the beginning that you can then

711
00:24:54.440 --> 00:24:59.040
use as rules to decide current disagreements.

712
00:24:59.040 --> 00:25:02.600
Well, I think fundamentally, Laila, and I also both believe that love is conditional,

713
00:25:02.600 --> 00:25:04.080
not unconditional.

714
00:25:04.080 --> 00:25:10.560
And so even the idea of marriage for us has been based on agreements, which is like if

715
00:25:10.560 --> 00:25:14.320
there were time in the future where Laila no longer wanted to do the things that I want

716
00:25:14.320 --> 00:25:20.520
to do, then I would not hold her to her commitment to be with me because it was contingent on

717
00:25:20.520 --> 00:25:22.400
that we want these same things.

718
00:25:22.400 --> 00:25:26.080
And so it's like similar mission, similar values, similar interests.

719
00:25:26.080 --> 00:25:30.880
If you want to go to the same place and get there the same way, values, and what you spend

720
00:25:30.880 --> 00:25:34.440
your time on in between interests is aligned, then you'll probably be okay.

721
00:25:34.440 --> 00:25:36.920
And I think the problem is that a lot of people, this is my, you know, one minute, two

722
00:25:36.920 --> 00:25:42.000
cents, is a lot of people look for, are actively looking for hookups and then thinking hookups

723
00:25:42.000 --> 00:25:46.440
will turn into life partners and wives and spouses.

724
00:25:46.440 --> 00:25:49.680
But if you were to look for a hookup, you would look for a very different thing than you

725
00:25:49.680 --> 00:25:50.680
would for a spouse.

726
00:25:50.680 --> 00:25:55.840
So expecting one to become the other, I don't know if that's the best, the best frame.

727
00:25:55.840 --> 00:25:57.840
This is worked for us because we are that way.

728
00:25:57.840 --> 00:26:00.720
Now there are, there are people that I know have amazing relationships where one is completely

729
00:26:00.720 --> 00:26:02.520
subservient to the other.

730
00:26:02.520 --> 00:26:03.640
And that works for them.

731
00:26:03.640 --> 00:26:08.480
I really enjoy our relationship because I get tremendous utility from Laila.

732
00:26:08.480 --> 00:26:10.440
She serves me in a lot of ways.

733
00:26:10.440 --> 00:26:14.720
More than I would say most men get from their spouses, I would least businessmen, you

734
00:26:14.720 --> 00:26:15.720
know what I mean?

735
00:26:15.720 --> 00:26:20.240
It's very, it's not common at all for a wife to be even close to Laila's level.

736
00:26:20.240 --> 00:26:23.360
Sometimes they're like, oh yeah, she's like the secretary in the business and sometimes

737
00:26:23.360 --> 00:26:25.760
they over title the person to make her feel better or whatever.

738
00:26:25.760 --> 00:26:30.360
But like, that's, I would say more of the norm if at all in the business.

739
00:26:30.360 --> 00:26:31.840
Laila absolutely runs the business.

740
00:26:31.840 --> 00:26:33.360
She's CEO, period.

741
00:26:33.360 --> 00:26:36.880
I'm like off to the side and I like think of good things every once in a while.

742
00:26:36.880 --> 00:26:38.440
Like she's the one who runs everything.

743
00:26:38.440 --> 00:26:41.920
And like only the people inside of our company can actually like appreciate that.

744
00:26:41.920 --> 00:26:44.520
And I will still always get the credit because I am who I am and I look the way I look and

745
00:26:44.520 --> 00:26:45.520
I talk the way I talk.

746
00:26:45.520 --> 00:26:47.640
But like, she's really the one that does it.

747
00:26:47.640 --> 00:26:51.440
And so I get a ton out of that and that this is how it has worked for us.

748
00:26:51.440 --> 00:26:54.480
Like Laila and every other relationship in her life was always the dominant one.

749
00:26:54.480 --> 00:26:59.480
Like because most guys will fold to Laila using incredibly strong willed.

750
00:26:59.480 --> 00:27:03.920
And it's like, I mean, it's my belief at least if you enjoyed a male female dynamic,

751
00:27:03.920 --> 00:27:07.200
you just need it like if you were a strong woman, you seem a more strong man.

752
00:27:07.200 --> 00:27:10.960
What sort of personal contensions do you have between the two of you?

753
00:27:10.960 --> 00:27:13.320
Because it seems like everything is really just business oriented.

754
00:27:13.320 --> 00:27:15.920
Yeah, I mean, we talk about business all day.

755
00:27:15.920 --> 00:27:16.920
That's what we do.

756
00:27:16.920 --> 00:27:20.560
We don't say that the busier we are with business, the more we will try and carve out time

757
00:27:20.560 --> 00:27:21.920
to not be business.

758
00:27:21.920 --> 00:27:25.560
If things are more like normal pace, we don't really need to carve the time out.

759
00:27:25.560 --> 00:27:26.760
The time kind of happens on its own.

760
00:27:26.760 --> 00:27:31.080
And so I've seen clips and stuff where people say like, you have to have a date night

761
00:27:31.080 --> 00:27:34.120
once a week and you can't talk about business and like people like just like throwing these

762
00:27:34.120 --> 00:27:35.120
rules out.

763
00:27:35.120 --> 00:27:36.560
I just hate all of that.

764
00:27:36.560 --> 00:27:39.640
If we feel like we need to like reconnect because it's like we're a little bit too distant

765
00:27:39.640 --> 00:27:42.000
in terms of like, hey, I feel like I haven't seen you in a week.

766
00:27:42.000 --> 00:27:43.240
Then like, let's go out to dinner.

767
00:27:43.240 --> 00:27:45.400
Let's take some time and let's just hang out and catch up.

768
00:27:45.400 --> 00:27:47.760
I mean, sometimes the E-CLOBS is like, I feel like I've been with you all day like,

769
00:27:47.760 --> 00:27:50.840
oh my, get some space, go to the gym, hang out, you know, get some food with some guys

770
00:27:50.840 --> 00:27:52.360
and like, I'll be back.

771
00:27:52.360 --> 00:27:53.760
And so I think we just manage that.

772
00:27:53.760 --> 00:27:58.880
And I think, especially in like the world of remote work, I actually think that my opinion,

773
00:27:58.880 --> 00:28:01.080
people spend too much time together.

774
00:28:01.080 --> 00:28:02.080
I think this is extra problem.

775
00:28:02.080 --> 00:28:04.200
I think you need to create space to be missed.

776
00:28:04.200 --> 00:28:06.760
There's no time where like I'm more excited to see Layla than a time that I haven't seen

777
00:28:06.760 --> 00:28:07.760
her.

778
00:28:07.760 --> 00:28:08.760
Motivation is the equal opposite of deprivation.

779
00:28:08.760 --> 00:28:11.600
If I haven't seen her on a deprived of Layla, I'm more motivated to see her.

780
00:28:11.600 --> 00:28:14.400
I've seen her a ton, but I'm probably less motivated to see her.

781
00:28:14.400 --> 00:28:18.080
Now you think a lot of times in relationships, people could be spending too much time together.

782
00:28:18.080 --> 00:28:19.080
Absolutely.

783
00:28:19.080 --> 00:28:22.280
Nowadays, for sure, they live in the same house, they literally spend all day together.

784
00:28:22.280 --> 00:28:24.920
I don't think that's at least normal from how we kind of came.

785
00:28:24.920 --> 00:28:28.840
I think you need two experiences to come together and then you can do something to talk

786
00:28:28.840 --> 00:28:33.680
about because otherwise, if you've had the same experiences all day for weeks, it's

787
00:28:33.680 --> 00:28:34.680
like, what do you talk about?

788
00:28:34.680 --> 00:28:35.680
I was at certain point.

789
00:28:35.680 --> 00:28:36.680
Yeah.

790
00:28:36.680 --> 00:28:37.680
I don't know.

791
00:28:37.680 --> 00:28:38.680
I was there.

792
00:28:38.680 --> 00:28:39.680
Like, yeah, we have nothing else to say.

793
00:28:39.680 --> 00:28:41.960
So like, I think when we figured this out for our relationship, it was still like two

794
00:28:41.960 --> 00:28:43.120
or three years in.

795
00:28:43.120 --> 00:28:45.480
We actively just like created a ton of space.

796
00:28:45.480 --> 00:28:46.760
We worked on opposite sides of the house.

797
00:28:46.760 --> 00:28:47.760
We didn't attend.

798
00:28:47.760 --> 00:28:49.480
I came off the meetings that she was on.

799
00:28:49.480 --> 00:28:52.880
And so like at the end of the day, I was like, oh, you met with John today.

800
00:28:52.880 --> 00:28:53.880
How is that?

801
00:28:53.880 --> 00:28:54.880
She's like, oh, this is what this happened.

802
00:28:54.880 --> 00:28:56.040
And I was like, oh, and you met with that vendor who's doing this thing.

803
00:28:56.040 --> 00:28:57.040
She's like, yeah, and this is what we negotiated.

804
00:28:57.040 --> 00:28:58.040
What do you think about this?

805
00:28:58.040 --> 00:28:59.880
And you know, like, oh, and then I go through my calendar.

806
00:28:59.880 --> 00:29:03.000
And like, literally, we still, to this day, do that, is that at the end of the day, we

807
00:29:03.000 --> 00:29:04.000
go for a walk.

808
00:29:04.000 --> 00:29:05.000
45 minutes.

809
00:29:05.000 --> 00:29:06.000
I take out my phone.

810
00:29:06.000 --> 00:29:07.000
She takes our phone.

811
00:29:07.000 --> 00:29:09.480
We just literally download, like, how is your day, how is my day?

812
00:29:09.480 --> 00:29:12.840
Like, what are the things that we're working on and moving forward?

813
00:29:12.840 --> 00:29:17.000
And that's how we kind of like, re-sync up, and then after that, we just, we're kind of

814
00:29:17.000 --> 00:29:18.720
husband and wife the rest of the day.

815
00:29:18.720 --> 00:29:24.680
We'll go guys, you guys already know that I don't run any ads on this and I don't sell

816
00:29:24.680 --> 00:29:25.680
anything.

817
00:29:25.680 --> 00:29:28.360
And so the only ask that I can ever have if you guys, that you help me spread the words

818
00:29:28.360 --> 00:29:31.960
so we can have more entrepreneurs, make more money, feed their families, make better

819
00:29:31.960 --> 00:29:35.680
products, and have better experiences for their employees and customers.

820
00:29:35.680 --> 00:29:40.160
The only way we do that is if you can rate and review and share this podcast.

821
00:29:40.160 --> 00:29:43.480
So the single thing that I have to do is you can just leave a review, but take 10 seconds

822
00:29:43.480 --> 00:29:44.480
or one type of the thumb.

823
00:29:44.480 --> 00:29:48.080
It means the absolute will to me and more importantly, it may change the world for someone

824
00:29:48.080 --> 00:29:50.280
else.

825
00:29:50.280 --> 00:29:52.600
What was the logic behind buying that UFC building?

826
00:29:52.600 --> 00:29:53.600
It was dope.

827
00:29:53.600 --> 00:29:54.600
It's pretty cool.

828
00:29:54.600 --> 00:29:55.600
Yeah.

829
00:29:55.600 --> 00:29:56.600
That's a lot, that's a lot of space.

830
00:29:56.600 --> 00:30:00.800
But to go from someone who's kind of working from home, remotely, to getting a full

831
00:30:00.800 --> 00:30:03.920
on office space, it's massive.

832
00:30:03.920 --> 00:30:04.920
How many square feet was that?

833
00:30:05.000 --> 00:30:06.720
There's like 12,000 square feet something.

834
00:30:06.720 --> 00:30:09.120
It's three floors of 12, it's 36.

835
00:30:09.120 --> 00:30:10.640
36,000 square feet?

836
00:30:10.640 --> 00:30:12.480
It is 12,000 square feet.

837
00:30:12.480 --> 00:30:14.800
It's part of the grand plan when I'm investing in.

838
00:30:14.800 --> 00:30:16.560
So we're investing heavily in media.

839
00:30:16.560 --> 00:30:20.280
And so that's going to have a ton of studios inside of it that we're actively building

840
00:30:20.280 --> 00:30:21.280
out right now.

841
00:30:21.280 --> 00:30:25.240
A ton of different sets for different types of content that we want to be putting out

842
00:30:25.240 --> 00:30:28.440
with higher quality and higher frequency in the future.

843
00:30:28.440 --> 00:30:29.440
That's what I'm building towards.

844
00:30:29.440 --> 00:30:34.840
And so having a place where all of my team could sync up and I could attract talent

845
00:30:34.840 --> 00:30:39.360
to come here to Vegas is kind of what we were shooting for.

846
00:30:39.360 --> 00:30:42.400
What's the grand plan with content?

847
00:30:42.400 --> 00:30:46.120
Are you trying to take people under the Hormosi brand?

848
00:30:46.120 --> 00:30:51.320
No, no, I actually, I'm actually going to do more me personally and Leila.

849
00:30:51.320 --> 00:30:56.360
And it's more that we're going to be facilitating more types of content rather than more talking

850
00:30:56.360 --> 00:30:57.360
about it.

851
00:30:57.360 --> 00:31:00.440
Because as much as like my quote brand has grown, that's actually still been the result

852
00:31:00.440 --> 00:31:05.840
of like a half day, a week, or every other week of actual filming.

853
00:31:05.840 --> 00:31:09.480
And the rest of it is just the awesome team that we have that has had a cut distributed

854
00:31:09.480 --> 00:31:11.640
repurpose content across different platforms.

855
00:31:11.640 --> 00:31:14.640
But I actually want to increase inputs into the machine.

856
00:31:14.640 --> 00:31:18.120
And in order to do that, I thought it would make sense to make this type of investment.

857
00:31:18.120 --> 00:31:20.080
Yeah, but 36,000 square feet.

858
00:31:20.080 --> 00:31:21.400
Yeah, well, I want a massive gym.

859
00:31:21.400 --> 00:31:22.400
I want a massive gym.

860
00:31:22.400 --> 00:31:24.120
So that's like floor one, basically.

861
00:31:24.120 --> 00:31:26.240
A whole floor, 12,000 square feet a gym.

862
00:31:26.240 --> 00:31:27.240
That makes no sense.

863
00:31:27.240 --> 00:31:28.240
12,000 square feet.

864
00:31:28.240 --> 00:31:29.240
It's a big commercial gym.

865
00:31:29.240 --> 00:31:30.240
Well, 1,000 square feet.

866
00:31:30.240 --> 00:31:31.640
The bottom, the bottom floor half is parking.

867
00:31:31.640 --> 00:31:34.680
But there's no, but there's, there's going to be a commercial half the, yeah, 100%.

868
00:31:34.680 --> 00:31:35.680
Yeah.

869
00:31:35.680 --> 00:31:36.680
But still 6,000 square feet.

870
00:31:36.680 --> 00:31:37.680
Yeah.

871
00:31:37.680 --> 00:31:38.680
Jim.

872
00:31:38.680 --> 00:31:39.680
Yeah.

873
00:31:39.680 --> 00:31:40.680
There's no way there's enough machines.

874
00:31:40.680 --> 00:31:41.680
Yeah.

875
00:31:41.680 --> 00:31:43.680
I barely can fit anything in there.

876
00:31:43.680 --> 00:31:44.680
How?

877
00:31:44.680 --> 00:31:45.680
I like equipment.

878
00:31:45.680 --> 00:31:46.680
I'm a, I'm a connoisseur.

879
00:31:46.680 --> 00:31:49.000
I have, I'm an aficionado of gym equipment.

880
00:31:49.000 --> 00:31:53.280
But I feel like you could probably get 99% of the same result.

881
00:31:53.280 --> 00:31:54.280
Sure.

882
00:31:54.280 --> 00:31:55.280
With 2,000 square feet.

883
00:31:55.280 --> 00:31:56.800
But this isn't, this isn't a utility question.

884
00:31:56.800 --> 00:31:58.840
This is all, uh, what Alex wants.

885
00:31:58.840 --> 00:32:01.680
This is my purse is in my, in my Coco Chanel.

886
00:32:01.680 --> 00:32:06.040
Like she could have a plastic bag and carry her shit, but like she wants a Chanel purse.

887
00:32:06.040 --> 00:32:09.000
I could just have one shoulder press, but there's three different brands that make different

888
00:32:09.000 --> 00:32:10.520
ones that I like for different reasons.

889
00:32:10.520 --> 00:32:11.520
All right.

890
00:32:11.520 --> 00:32:12.840
There is one question I have.

891
00:32:12.840 --> 00:32:14.120
There's a space in that building.

892
00:32:14.120 --> 00:32:18.320
I think where there's one of those, like roll up things that goes into a space.

893
00:32:18.320 --> 00:32:19.600
What's your purpose with that?

894
00:32:19.600 --> 00:32:20.600
That's just parking.

895
00:32:20.600 --> 00:32:24.760
Like that's the bottom floor is half is, uh, is, is, I thought there's, but there's one

896
00:32:24.760 --> 00:32:27.640
where it's kind of like a bit of a, it looks like a bit of a warehouse.

897
00:32:27.640 --> 00:32:30.040
Yeah, it's, there's the roll up, that's the whole, that's the bottom floor.

898
00:32:30.040 --> 00:32:32.480
Yeah, it's, there's the roll up and then you've got all the parking and then, I mean,

899
00:32:32.480 --> 00:32:33.480
it has all the pillars.

900
00:32:33.480 --> 00:32:36.800
What would it take for the iced coffee hour to be able to, you know, get an office space

901
00:32:36.800 --> 00:32:37.800
in there?

902
00:32:37.800 --> 00:32:38.800
Got to go with Layla.

903
00:32:38.800 --> 00:32:41.640
Layla said that she would probably said she'd do it for free.

904
00:32:41.640 --> 00:32:42.640
That's what she said.

905
00:32:42.640 --> 00:32:43.640
Layla definitely.

906
00:32:43.640 --> 00:32:45.600
She said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said,

907
00:32:45.640 --> 00:32:46.680
don't ask her.

908
00:32:46.680 --> 00:32:49.040
But she said, just let me say it's okay.

909
00:32:50.640 --> 00:32:54.280
Oh, yeah, I'm, I'm stoked about it, but to answer the question, I don't want to spoil

910
00:32:54.280 --> 00:32:57.800
anything, but we have a bunch of new shows that we're gonna be putting out, new types of

911
00:32:57.800 --> 00:33:01.220
content, new characters that we're gonna bring in to the content.

912
00:33:01.220 --> 00:33:02.960
Like a lot of really cool stuff.

913
00:33:02.960 --> 00:33:06.200
Like I was super inspired when I went out to, uh, Steve Dave Ramsey and his whole setup.

914
00:33:06.200 --> 00:33:07.200
Really?

915
00:33:07.200 --> 00:33:08.200
Yeah.

916
00:33:08.200 --> 00:33:09.200
Yeah, but what was it like for meeting Dave Ramsey?

917
00:33:09.200 --> 00:33:10.200
It was great.

918
00:33:10.200 --> 00:33:11.200
Dave was exactly the same.

919
00:33:11.200 --> 00:33:12.840
You know what I mean, it's as I expected him to be.

920
00:33:12.840 --> 00:33:15.960
I mean, my whole interview, I don't know if you saw it, was all about business.

921
00:33:15.960 --> 00:33:16.960
Yeah.

922
00:33:16.960 --> 00:33:19.000
Because he always talks about personal finances and savings.

923
00:33:19.000 --> 00:33:20.760
He kind of has his buzz things.

924
00:33:20.760 --> 00:33:26.280
And I wanted to like try and avoid those to get to like, how does Ramsey solutions work?

925
00:33:26.280 --> 00:33:29.920
And kind of like, what were some of the strategic decisions that he made that led him to there?

926
00:33:29.920 --> 00:33:34.160
The thing that I find really interesting is that he has somehow managed to have an education

927
00:33:34.160 --> 00:33:39.400
and information business without being seen as a scam.

928
00:33:39.400 --> 00:33:43.960
And I find like, thinking about anybody else who sells a course, coaching, events, and

929
00:33:43.960 --> 00:33:44.960
an app.

930
00:33:44.960 --> 00:33:49.080
That's like the prototypical, every other coach, whatever guru out there.

931
00:33:49.080 --> 00:33:54.200
And somehow he managed to do that and build a $300 million a year business from basically

932
00:33:54.200 --> 00:33:55.200
the same ingredients.

933
00:33:55.200 --> 00:33:58.440
And I was like, I wanted to really get close to like, what made it different for Dave

934
00:33:58.440 --> 00:34:00.240
versus everybody else.

935
00:34:00.240 --> 00:34:02.480
And so I think there's two main things, this is my two cents.

936
00:34:02.480 --> 00:34:04.720
So Dave, if you ever see this, this is my thoughts.

937
00:34:04.720 --> 00:34:07.000
One is that the promise that he was making was something that is absolutely believable

938
00:34:07.000 --> 00:34:10.440
and no one could fight, which is that if you spend less money, you will have more left

939
00:34:10.440 --> 00:34:11.440
over.

940
00:34:11.440 --> 00:34:15.520
It's very different than most other promises, which is our make money, which is like if you

941
00:34:15.520 --> 00:34:18.840
do this thing, then you make $2,000 a month or whatever it is, it's like, if you make

942
00:34:18.840 --> 00:34:22.280
$5,000 and you save $1,000, you have $1,000 left over.

943
00:34:22.280 --> 00:34:24.280
There's just no one can fight you, right?

944
00:34:24.280 --> 00:34:28.040
And I think that really protects him from a promise is perspective.

945
00:34:28.040 --> 00:34:29.040
Yeah.

946
00:34:29.040 --> 00:34:36.240
The other side is that he absolutely focuses on brand above everything and his reputation.

947
00:34:36.240 --> 00:34:40.800
And so like an indication of that is that he does, the biggest slice of revenue that

948
00:34:40.800 --> 00:34:43.280
he has is media.

949
00:34:43.280 --> 00:34:46.680
Like everybody else just like right hooks the shit out of their audience at all times.

950
00:34:46.680 --> 00:34:50.280
And so like they couldn't even sell media places, media spots on their own if they wanted

951
00:34:50.280 --> 00:34:53.000
to because they have like no goodwill in their audience.

952
00:34:53.000 --> 00:34:57.520
But he still deposits so much more goodwill, provides so much more value at scale that he's

953
00:34:57.520 --> 00:35:00.280
able to make, you know, 10 million a month just on media alone.

954
00:35:00.280 --> 00:35:01.280
He shared that on the podcast.

955
00:35:01.280 --> 00:35:02.280
Yeah.

956
00:35:02.280 --> 00:35:03.280
I don't mind sharing it.

957
00:35:03.280 --> 00:35:07.000
And then the third kind of bonus takeaway that I had was they run a lot more events than

958
00:35:07.000 --> 00:35:08.000
I thought they did.

959
00:35:08.000 --> 00:35:09.000
Which I thought was pretty interesting.

960
00:35:09.000 --> 00:35:10.000
They run a van every week.

961
00:35:10.000 --> 00:35:12.600
I was like, I think that's, isn't it a newer?

962
00:35:12.600 --> 00:35:13.600
I don't know.

963
00:35:13.600 --> 00:35:14.600
They have a new, they have that venue.

964
00:35:14.600 --> 00:35:15.600
But they're doing a lot of these.

965
00:35:15.600 --> 00:35:16.600
And I thought that was interesting.

966
00:35:16.600 --> 00:35:21.480
And then the second thing, you know, bonus B2 is was the amount of volume that he was

967
00:35:21.480 --> 00:35:22.480
putting in.

968
00:35:22.480 --> 00:35:26.160
And that was part of what inspired me to basically do more was I figured that he was

969
00:35:26.160 --> 00:35:29.680
been the majority of his time, running Ramsey solutions and then make, you know, do a

970
00:35:29.680 --> 00:35:31.200
show and then, and then whatnot.

971
00:35:31.200 --> 00:35:37.880
But when you look at actual hours, he spends like 20 hours a week making content.

972
00:35:37.880 --> 00:35:42.000
And I also found that with PBD, he also did 20 hours a week and some of these other brands

973
00:35:42.000 --> 00:35:43.720
that produce a lot of content.

974
00:35:43.720 --> 00:35:47.200
And when I look at my hours, significantly less than that, he's been way more on the portfolio

975
00:35:47.200 --> 00:35:48.200
side.

976
00:35:48.200 --> 00:35:51.840
And so the building was somewhat of a commitment investment towards building towards

977
00:35:51.840 --> 00:35:52.840
that.

978
00:35:52.840 --> 00:35:56.080
I think what I'm getting from this is that you were inspired by Dave Ramsey.

979
00:35:56.080 --> 00:35:57.080
Yeah.

980
00:35:57.080 --> 00:35:58.080
You bought this building.

981
00:35:58.080 --> 00:35:59.080
Yeah.

982
00:35:59.080 --> 00:36:04.680
And you were version of business, your Dave Ramsey approach to what you're doing.

983
00:36:04.680 --> 00:36:05.680
Yeah.

984
00:36:05.680 --> 00:36:06.680
That'll be an element of it for sure.

985
00:36:06.680 --> 00:36:07.680
That's really interesting.

986
00:36:07.680 --> 00:36:08.680
Yeah.

987
00:36:08.680 --> 00:36:09.680
I mean, I wish you could tell us more about model.

988
00:36:09.680 --> 00:36:10.680
Yeah.

989
00:36:10.680 --> 00:36:11.680
I mean, you'll see it.

990
00:36:11.680 --> 00:36:12.680
But a model success.

991
00:36:12.680 --> 00:36:14.680
I mean, I think that we will do it a little bit differently because we're, you know,

992
00:36:14.680 --> 00:36:15.680
we're asked to talk about business.

993
00:36:15.680 --> 00:36:17.800
We have different subject matters and whatnot.

994
00:36:17.800 --> 00:36:22.320
But I think it's funny because I've been a remote only business since, I mean, basically

995
00:36:22.320 --> 00:36:24.080
my almost my entire career.

996
00:36:24.080 --> 00:36:25.720
And so I mean, I had my in-person gyms.

997
00:36:25.720 --> 00:36:29.800
But even those I ran from home because I didn't drive out to all the locations every

998
00:36:29.800 --> 00:36:30.800
day.

999
00:36:30.800 --> 00:36:35.240
And so it's really cool having the in-person now and like seeing people at the office

1000
00:36:35.240 --> 00:36:36.240
every day.

1001
00:36:36.240 --> 00:36:41.280
And I think the amount that we can influence and teach and upscale the team in an in-person

1002
00:36:41.280 --> 00:36:44.840
environment is so much faster than in a remote environment and the ability to influence

1003
00:36:44.840 --> 00:36:48.760
culture at scale is so much faster and in-person environments.

1004
00:36:48.760 --> 00:36:51.240
I'm actually just very excited for our speed of execution that we're probably going to be

1005
00:36:51.240 --> 00:36:52.240
able to unlock.

1006
00:36:52.240 --> 00:36:53.240
Yeah.

1007
00:36:53.240 --> 00:36:54.240
When is the gym going to be complete?

1008
00:36:54.240 --> 00:36:55.240
Probably a month.

1009
00:36:55.240 --> 00:36:56.240
I'll say it stages.

1010
00:36:56.240 --> 00:36:59.400
So the entire gym will be done probably in a month and it'll have the first wave of

1011
00:36:59.400 --> 00:37:00.400
equipment.

1012
00:37:00.400 --> 00:37:03.320
I'll have equipment orders coming in for the next year after that.

1013
00:37:03.320 --> 00:37:04.320
Wow.

1014
00:37:04.320 --> 00:37:05.920
I really want to go there and work out.

1015
00:37:05.920 --> 00:37:08.000
Oh, it'll be the best gym in Vegas.

1016
00:37:08.000 --> 00:37:09.480
And no one will be able to go.

1017
00:37:09.480 --> 00:37:11.480
No one can go.

1018
00:37:11.480 --> 00:37:13.480
But Jack is not going to be like, it's not like a public gym.

1019
00:37:13.480 --> 00:37:14.480
I'm not going to like have a random show.

1020
00:37:14.480 --> 00:37:15.480
It's a private gym.

1021
00:37:15.480 --> 00:37:16.480
It's like someone's out, you know.

1022
00:37:16.480 --> 00:37:17.480
Yeah, it's my off of them.

1023
00:37:17.480 --> 00:37:18.480
I'm not like having.

1024
00:37:18.480 --> 00:37:19.480
But Jack and I.

1025
00:37:19.480 --> 00:37:20.480
A couple, a little bit of room for a couple of folks.

1026
00:37:20.480 --> 00:37:22.480
But Jack and I could go, right?

1027
00:37:22.480 --> 00:37:23.480
I mean.

1028
00:37:23.480 --> 00:37:24.480
You just take it up with Layla.

1029
00:37:24.480 --> 00:37:25.480
I'm sure she'll be right up in terms.

1030
00:37:25.480 --> 00:37:26.480
She said yes.

1031
00:37:26.480 --> 00:37:27.480
She said yes.

1032
00:37:27.480 --> 00:37:28.480
She said yes.

1033
00:37:28.480 --> 00:37:31.480
Are you going to put a ping pong table in there?

1034
00:37:31.480 --> 00:37:32.480
We already have one.

1035
00:37:32.480 --> 00:37:33.480
Got it.

1036
00:37:33.480 --> 00:37:34.480
We game.

1037
00:37:34.480 --> 00:37:35.480
We ball.

1038
00:37:35.480 --> 00:37:36.480
Are you living from the office?

1039
00:37:36.480 --> 00:37:37.480
I feel like I wouldn't leave.

1040
00:37:37.480 --> 00:37:38.480
Like for you to be that efficient.

1041
00:37:38.480 --> 00:37:39.480
I would live there.

1042
00:37:39.480 --> 00:37:40.480
Not as much as you think, actually.

1043
00:37:40.480 --> 00:37:43.520
So to be fair, we're still like building out some of the stuff and some stuff's like half

1044
00:37:43.520 --> 00:37:44.520
done.

1045
00:37:44.520 --> 00:37:46.120
And so it's easier for me to do some things at home.

1046
00:37:46.120 --> 00:37:48.840
But one of the things that we wanted to be really particular about was we wanted to create

1047
00:37:48.840 --> 00:37:51.600
an incredibly rewarding environment that would encourage people to come, you know, as

1048
00:37:51.600 --> 00:37:56.320
often as possible, but not have like rules as in, you don't have to show up at nine.

1049
00:37:56.320 --> 00:37:57.320
You don't have to stay till five.

1050
00:37:57.320 --> 00:38:00.720
Like, you don't have to come certainly because we've been a remote company.

1051
00:38:00.720 --> 00:38:03.680
But the idea was that we would want to create an environment that people wouldn't want

1052
00:38:03.680 --> 00:38:05.080
to stay home from.

1053
00:38:05.080 --> 00:38:06.600
And so that's kind of what we're shooting for.

1054
00:38:06.600 --> 00:38:07.600
Yeah.

1055
00:38:07.600 --> 00:38:11.920
When I saw, well, Jack and I saw Mr. Beast, he turned one of his offices into a bedroom and

1056
00:38:11.920 --> 00:38:13.520
it was incredible.

1057
00:38:13.520 --> 00:38:18.640
And it made me kind of think, if I were in that position, I would not mind living.

1058
00:38:18.640 --> 00:38:20.680
If I were single, I would absolutely live in the office.

1059
00:38:20.680 --> 00:38:21.680
If I were single, I would have.

1060
00:38:21.680 --> 00:38:26.440
Yeah, but it's big enough where you and Layla could have three thousand square feet

1061
00:38:26.440 --> 00:38:27.440
in this place.

1062
00:38:27.440 --> 00:38:28.440
A ton.

1063
00:38:28.440 --> 00:38:29.440
Yeah.

1064
00:38:29.440 --> 00:38:30.440
And you would never even know.

1065
00:38:30.440 --> 00:38:31.440
Well, there's already a suite.

1066
00:38:31.440 --> 00:38:33.120
There's two suites that have full, actually, there's three suites that have bathrooms

1067
00:38:33.120 --> 00:38:34.120
and full everything.

1068
00:38:34.120 --> 00:38:38.080
And the previous owner was international and so he would come and he would sleep here or

1069
00:38:38.080 --> 00:38:39.320
sleep at the building.

1070
00:38:39.320 --> 00:38:40.320
And then he would fly back.

1071
00:38:40.320 --> 00:38:42.520
I think it was like Asian now.

1072
00:38:42.520 --> 00:38:43.520
She wouldn't go for it.

1073
00:38:43.520 --> 00:38:44.520
Not even close.

1074
00:38:44.520 --> 00:38:45.520
Like not a chance.

1075
00:38:45.520 --> 00:38:46.520
Not a chance on Earth.

1076
00:38:46.520 --> 00:38:49.160
For me, that just seems like so much fun because like the gym is down there.

1077
00:38:49.160 --> 00:38:50.560
You also just never leave it.

1078
00:38:50.560 --> 00:38:53.560
And I think there's like, it's almost creating space to be missed from work too.

1079
00:38:53.560 --> 00:38:54.560
Like it's nice to have somewhere to go.

1080
00:38:54.560 --> 00:38:58.680
And I will say, with the office thing, Jason, you can go back me up here, it's such

1081
00:38:58.680 --> 00:39:00.200
a different vibe going home.

1082
00:39:00.200 --> 00:39:03.440
When you work from home all the time, it's like home and work are just basically all the

1083
00:39:03.440 --> 00:39:07.920
time, but working somewhere separate from where you live, when you get back, home feels

1084
00:39:07.920 --> 00:39:10.000
a little bit more relaxing, which is kind of nice.

1085
00:39:10.000 --> 00:39:11.000
Sure.

1086
00:39:11.000 --> 00:39:13.760
So you prefer at this point having an office?

1087
00:39:13.760 --> 00:39:14.760
Yeah, I do.

1088
00:39:14.760 --> 00:39:15.760
I'm super pro office right now.

1089
00:39:15.760 --> 00:39:16.760
I really like it.

1090
00:39:17.040 --> 00:39:18.760
That's something I've not had in a very long time.

1091
00:39:18.760 --> 00:39:22.960
I used to go into the Oppenheim group, and almost every day, pretty much, I'd be there,

1092
00:39:22.960 --> 00:39:26.120
even when I was mostly doing YouTube full time, it's still going to the office, just

1093
00:39:26.120 --> 00:39:27.120
because I liked it.

1094
00:39:27.120 --> 00:39:30.120
And I enjoyed just getting out of the house, going somewhere.

1095
00:39:30.120 --> 00:39:31.400
And it's exactly the other people work.

1096
00:39:31.400 --> 00:39:32.400
It's literally that.

1097
00:39:32.400 --> 00:39:34.760
Got literally the zone of working because it's like, oh, everyone else this year, put

1098
00:39:34.760 --> 00:39:36.600
all my headphones and it's exactly that.

1099
00:39:36.600 --> 00:39:37.600
It felt motivated.

1100
00:39:37.600 --> 00:39:38.600
It's exactly that.

1101
00:39:38.600 --> 00:39:42.240
And I know I'll work out harder when the team's there around me, like I'm like, I

1102
00:39:42.240 --> 00:39:45.440
now I'm going to be able to like, be able to record content while I'm working out,

1103
00:39:45.440 --> 00:39:48.400
which I don't really do because public gyms, it's weird, I already get enough people

1104
00:39:48.400 --> 00:39:49.400
stopping me.

1105
00:39:49.400 --> 00:39:51.000
It's like, they don't want to draw more attention.

1106
00:39:51.000 --> 00:39:53.240
But like, I'll be able to do that at the gym there.

1107
00:39:53.240 --> 00:39:54.240
And that'll be awesome.

1108
00:39:54.240 --> 00:39:57.360
So like, now I'm actually having another rewarding, like, stimulus from working out.

1109
00:39:57.360 --> 00:39:59.880
So it's like, I get to work out, and then I also get to make content.

1110
00:39:59.880 --> 00:40:01.800
So it's like, I even more reason to work out.

1111
00:40:01.800 --> 00:40:04.080
So it's just giving more ways to win, which I like.

1112
00:40:04.080 --> 00:40:08.600
I think it would make a great series if for your content, what you would do, like, you

1113
00:40:08.600 --> 00:40:13.000
know how Dave Ramsey has people on, take note of this, you work out with somebody else

1114
00:40:13.000 --> 00:40:15.400
in kind of like a podcast setting.

1115
00:40:15.400 --> 00:40:17.320
So you mic him up and you do work out.

1116
00:40:17.320 --> 00:40:18.320
You're planning on doing it.

1117
00:40:18.320 --> 00:40:19.320
Oh, yeah.

1118
00:40:19.320 --> 00:40:20.320
Okay.

1119
00:40:20.320 --> 00:40:21.320
Perfect.

1120
00:40:21.320 --> 00:40:22.320
Yeah.

1121
00:40:22.320 --> 00:40:23.320
I think that would be very cool.

1122
00:40:23.320 --> 00:40:24.320
Part of the part of the plan.

1123
00:40:24.320 --> 00:40:25.320
Yeah.

1124
00:40:25.320 --> 00:40:26.320
Yeah.

1125
00:40:26.320 --> 00:40:27.320
It'll all announce the name.

1126
00:40:27.320 --> 00:40:28.320
It's going to be called between sets.

1127
00:40:28.320 --> 00:40:29.320
Between sets.

1128
00:40:29.320 --> 00:40:30.320
Fantastic name.

1129
00:40:30.320 --> 00:40:31.320
Wow.

1130
00:40:31.320 --> 00:40:32.320
I like that.

1131
00:40:32.320 --> 00:40:33.320
Yeah.

1132
00:40:33.320 --> 00:40:34.320
That's good.

1133
00:40:34.320 --> 00:40:35.320
Is it come up with that?

1134
00:40:35.320 --> 00:40:36.320
Yeah.

1135
00:40:36.320 --> 00:40:37.320
You did.

1136
00:40:37.320 --> 00:40:38.320
Yeah.

1137
00:40:38.320 --> 00:40:39.320
Cause a lot of my life lessons actually have them between sets.

1138
00:40:39.320 --> 00:40:40.320
And so it's like, I'd be lifting with an older guy and we'd be between sets.

1139
00:40:40.320 --> 00:40:42.560
And he'd be like, you know, Bob, I already asked him a question and he's like, yeah, this is

1140
00:40:42.560 --> 00:40:43.560
kind of how I see it.

1141
00:40:44.080 --> 00:40:45.560
I always like that environment too.

1142
00:40:45.560 --> 00:40:48.840
Cause like, at least my, obviously my experience in the gym has been so overwhelmingly

1143
00:40:48.840 --> 00:40:50.320
positive throughout my entire life.

1144
00:40:50.320 --> 00:40:54.600
I've had so many mentors, so many friends, so many life lessons learned in the gym between

1145
00:40:54.600 --> 00:40:55.600
sets.

1146
00:40:55.600 --> 00:40:58.200
I want to kind of like take the audience along for that kind of same experience that

1147
00:40:58.200 --> 00:41:01.320
I, I mean, I grew up basically, I mean, I've spent so much of my life in the gym, you

1148
00:41:01.320 --> 00:41:05.760
know, literally like from teenage years in high school to literally what my career was

1149
00:41:05.760 --> 00:41:06.840
for the first five years.

1150
00:41:06.840 --> 00:41:10.440
My professional career after my job was literally being in the gym all day.

1151
00:41:10.440 --> 00:41:14.160
So I have just so many positive experiences there and just also as a weird side note,

1152
00:41:14.160 --> 00:41:15.760
this is from a creator perspective.

1153
00:41:15.760 --> 00:41:20.440
I think like of my top like 20 clips of all time, like six of them are me at the gym.

1154
00:41:20.440 --> 00:41:22.680
And I've only recorded it at the gym twice ever.

1155
00:41:22.680 --> 00:41:23.680
So it's just kind of interesting.

1156
00:41:23.680 --> 00:41:27.840
I was like, I don't know if it's like a juxtaposition of like dude, but not talking about

1157
00:41:27.840 --> 00:41:28.840
fitness stuff.

1158
00:41:28.840 --> 00:41:31.760
Cause I'm not, I basically don't talk about, you know what the thing is, gym content is

1159
00:41:31.760 --> 00:41:34.080
doing really, really, really well right now.

1160
00:41:34.080 --> 00:41:36.480
And so it's a bit, it's on an uptrend.

1161
00:41:36.560 --> 00:41:41.440
The other thing I've noticed is that when you're talking, people lose retention, if

1162
00:41:41.440 --> 00:41:45.560
you're just static, but if you're there doing something, it's like listening to you

1163
00:41:45.560 --> 00:41:50.000
with subway surfers on the bottom, except you could incorporate you lifting weights and

1164
00:41:50.000 --> 00:41:52.120
speaking, just two things going on.

1165
00:41:52.120 --> 00:41:55.080
I could like watch you lift the weight and I could listen at the same time.

1166
00:41:55.080 --> 00:41:57.120
So I think it's really dynamic.

1167
00:41:57.120 --> 00:41:58.320
I think that's really important.

1168
00:41:58.320 --> 00:41:59.320
You would know.

1169
00:41:59.320 --> 00:42:00.320
Yeah.

1170
00:42:00.320 --> 00:42:01.320
So we're super stoked about that.

1171
00:42:01.320 --> 00:42:04.320
And also all my, so all my tweets, the vast majority of them come to me while we're

1172
00:42:05.160 --> 00:42:07.280
so it's like, I'll be between sets and I'll just be firing off tweets.

1173
00:42:07.280 --> 00:42:09.480
And that's, and so this time, I'll just be doing that to a camera.

1174
00:42:09.480 --> 00:42:10.480
Yeah.

1175
00:42:10.480 --> 00:42:14.760
The one request I have, meet with Sam Selik, do something with him as soon as possible.

1176
00:42:14.760 --> 00:42:18.960
I would love if he could be the first person you have there, we're going to have one

1177
00:42:18.960 --> 00:42:21.440
that's not him first, but who's the first?

1178
00:42:21.440 --> 00:42:25.000
So when Chris Williamson and I did our podcast, we actually worked out together.

1179
00:42:25.000 --> 00:42:28.520
And so we had a really great exchange while we worked out.

1180
00:42:28.520 --> 00:42:32.760
And so the team compressed that into the, which will be the first episode of between

1181
00:42:32.760 --> 00:42:33.760
sets.

1182
00:42:33.760 --> 00:42:34.760
How long is that going to be?

1183
00:42:34.760 --> 00:42:35.760
I don't actually know.

1184
00:42:35.760 --> 00:42:36.760
How long is the episode?

1185
00:42:36.760 --> 00:42:37.760
13, 14 minutes.

1186
00:42:37.760 --> 00:42:41.520
Yeah, we're not doing, we're not doing, we'll say, we'll experiment with it.

1187
00:42:41.520 --> 00:42:45.560
I'm going to tell you, what will be the best if you make this an hour long workout and

1188
00:42:45.560 --> 00:42:48.240
you include the entire thing.

1189
00:42:48.240 --> 00:42:51.800
The entire hour with, by the way, no edits.

1190
00:42:51.800 --> 00:42:57.200
If you could do one straight shot, post it to YouTube, no edits, including like the you

1191
00:42:57.200 --> 00:42:59.640
getting up, like you're kind of out of breath.

1192
00:42:59.640 --> 00:43:00.640
People are loving that.

1193
00:43:00.640 --> 00:43:02.240
That's why Sam is doing so well.

1194
00:43:02.240 --> 00:43:03.240
You know what?

1195
00:43:03.240 --> 00:43:04.520
It's, it's just real.

1196
00:43:04.520 --> 00:43:06.960
And that's what I think is lacking right now in YouTube.

1197
00:43:06.960 --> 00:43:07.960
Yeah.

1198
00:43:07.960 --> 00:43:09.960
I mean, we'll, we're down for anything.

1199
00:43:09.960 --> 00:43:10.960
Yeah.

1200
00:43:10.960 --> 00:43:13.560
You know, whatever shows the audience were happy to, you know, provided it works with our

1201
00:43:13.560 --> 00:43:14.560
values.

1202
00:43:14.560 --> 00:43:15.560
We're down.

1203
00:43:15.560 --> 00:43:16.560
Oh, don't know.

1204
00:43:16.560 --> 00:43:17.560
What's your hair care routine?

1205
00:43:17.560 --> 00:43:18.560
Oh God.

1206
00:43:18.560 --> 00:43:19.560
Nothing.

1207
00:43:19.560 --> 00:43:20.560
Do you shampoo?

1208
00:43:20.560 --> 00:43:21.560
No.

1209
00:43:21.560 --> 00:43:22.560
What?

1210
00:43:22.560 --> 00:43:23.560
What do you mean you don't?

1211
00:43:23.560 --> 00:43:24.560
You don't.

1212
00:43:24.560 --> 00:43:25.560
You shampoo?

1213
00:43:25.560 --> 00:43:26.560
Hmm.

1214
00:43:26.560 --> 00:43:27.560
Why?

1215
00:43:27.560 --> 00:43:28.560
My hair gets like fluffy, super fluffy.

1216
00:43:28.560 --> 00:43:29.560
So I just don't.

1217
00:43:29.560 --> 00:43:30.560
Do you just use water?

1218
00:43:30.560 --> 00:43:31.560
What about conditioner?

1219
00:43:31.640 --> 00:43:32.640
Ever?

1220
00:43:32.640 --> 00:43:33.640
No shampoo ever.

1221
00:43:33.640 --> 00:43:34.640
Right.

1222
00:43:34.640 --> 00:43:36.280
I feel like for like eight months.

1223
00:43:36.280 --> 00:43:38.880
Yeah, but I feel like it's just to hair just way down.

1224
00:43:38.880 --> 00:43:39.880
No, you scrub.

1225
00:43:39.880 --> 00:43:40.880
I mean, you scrubbed it.

1226
00:43:40.880 --> 00:43:41.880
I mean, you still scrub your scalp.

1227
00:43:41.880 --> 00:43:42.880
Yeah, yeah.

1228
00:43:42.880 --> 00:43:43.880
You still like.

1229
00:43:43.880 --> 00:43:45.880
The thing is you strip yourself of the natural oils when you do shampoo, this is the

1230
00:43:45.880 --> 00:43:46.880
theory.

1231
00:43:46.880 --> 00:43:50.120
And then you overproduce these oils, which then makes your hair really oily and creates

1232
00:43:50.120 --> 00:43:51.120
dandruff.

1233
00:43:51.120 --> 00:43:55.120
But if you get past like the lump of like no shampoo, it ends up being healthy.

1234
00:43:55.120 --> 00:43:56.120
I don't know.

1235
00:43:56.120 --> 00:43:57.120
I mean, I've been doing this for years.

1236
00:43:57.120 --> 00:43:58.120
I've been doing this for years.

1237
00:43:58.120 --> 00:44:01.360
And it's also good because apparently when you're like really scrubbing on your scalp,

1238
00:44:01.360 --> 00:44:03.600
it facilitates hair growth as well as what they say.

1239
00:44:03.600 --> 00:44:04.600
You're stimulating.

1240
00:44:04.600 --> 00:44:05.600
The more people I guess so.

1241
00:44:05.600 --> 00:44:06.600
What about your beard?

1242
00:44:06.600 --> 00:44:07.600
Gosh.

1243
00:44:07.600 --> 00:44:08.600
Do you use any product there?

1244
00:44:08.600 --> 00:44:11.800
Well, actually, I started using basically like a, it's like a chapstick for your beard.

1245
00:44:11.800 --> 00:44:16.400
But it's just, if I, if I comb it out in the morning, it just stays a little straighter.

1246
00:44:16.400 --> 00:44:19.480
Otherwise, it's just like, it's like a mangled monster.

1247
00:44:19.480 --> 00:44:20.480
And do you do that?

1248
00:44:20.480 --> 00:44:25.920
Do you keep this look because it's for branding or do you do it like for any other reason?

1249
00:44:25.920 --> 00:44:26.920
It's so funny.

1250
00:44:26.920 --> 00:44:29.960
I got, there was like a mastermind or something like a group of people who were all, so a buddy

1251
00:44:29.960 --> 00:44:30.960
of mine was there.

1252
00:44:30.960 --> 00:44:34.960
And he was like, somebody got up and was like, so this is hermosy strategy to blah, blah,

1253
00:44:34.960 --> 00:44:35.960
blah.

1254
00:44:35.960 --> 00:44:38.720
And I was fine if anyone would break down my strategies when there wasn't one.

1255
00:44:38.720 --> 00:44:43.360
But I was wearing, I literally am wearing the outfit that I can wear in the most environments

1256
00:44:43.360 --> 00:44:44.360
comfortably.

1257
00:44:44.360 --> 00:44:45.520
So like, I can wear this to the pool.

1258
00:44:45.520 --> 00:44:46.520
I can wear this to the gym.

1259
00:44:46.520 --> 00:44:47.520
I can wear this to this podcast.

1260
00:44:47.520 --> 00:44:49.680
I can go out to dinner because I just throw a flannel on top of it.

1261
00:44:49.680 --> 00:44:51.000
I'm good to go.

1262
00:44:51.000 --> 00:44:52.000
And also we're in Vegas.

1263
00:44:52.000 --> 00:44:53.760
And so it's hot a lot.

1264
00:44:53.760 --> 00:44:56.840
And so I wear like the lightest thing that I can wear.

1265
00:44:56.840 --> 00:45:00.200
But that beard is more maintenance to keep it like that I'm guessing than it is to

1266
00:45:00.200 --> 00:45:01.200
trim it.

1267
00:45:01.200 --> 00:45:02.200
No.

1268
00:45:02.200 --> 00:45:04.080
Trimming and shaving is way more than this.

1269
00:45:04.080 --> 00:45:05.680
I literally just exist.

1270
00:45:05.680 --> 00:45:09.680
And then I come in the morning, five seconds on one zoom.

1271
00:45:09.680 --> 00:45:10.680
Jason, five.

1272
00:45:10.680 --> 00:45:11.680
I'll be on zoom.

1273
00:45:11.680 --> 00:45:13.880
Yeah, but you have to trim it every now and then, right?

1274
00:45:13.880 --> 00:45:14.880
No, somebody comes.

1275
00:45:14.880 --> 00:45:15.880
You sculpt it.

1276
00:45:15.880 --> 00:45:16.880
If somebody comes, yeah.

1277
00:45:16.880 --> 00:45:19.520
Why can't you just do it yourself?

1278
00:45:19.520 --> 00:45:20.520
I love to do it.

1279
00:45:20.520 --> 00:45:22.120
I mean, I just sit down.

1280
00:45:22.120 --> 00:45:23.120
He comes.

1281
00:45:23.120 --> 00:45:24.120
I can take a call.

1282
00:45:24.120 --> 00:45:25.120
I can do whatever I want.

1283
00:45:25.120 --> 00:45:26.120
He's cutting it while I'm there.

1284
00:45:26.560 --> 00:45:27.560
I don't know.

1285
00:45:27.560 --> 00:45:30.800
People have been saying it could be a weak chin.

1286
00:45:30.800 --> 00:45:31.800
A weak chin.

1287
00:45:31.800 --> 00:45:36.880
What he's actually saying to this, he's hiding a no chin.

1288
00:45:36.880 --> 00:45:37.880
Yeah, you're right.

1289
00:45:37.880 --> 00:45:38.880
You're right.

1290
00:45:38.880 --> 00:45:39.880
That's it.

1291
00:45:39.880 --> 00:45:40.880
That's what it is.

1292
00:45:40.880 --> 00:45:41.880
It's all what's behind it.

1293
00:45:41.880 --> 00:45:42.880
That's what it is.

1294
00:45:42.880 --> 00:45:43.880
Yeah.

1295
00:45:43.880 --> 00:45:44.880
A weak chin.

1296
00:45:44.880 --> 00:45:45.880
Okay.

1297
00:45:45.880 --> 00:45:46.880
One last.

1298
00:45:46.880 --> 00:45:47.880
I have a question about the Nicaret.

1299
00:45:47.880 --> 00:45:49.080
Have you found, because I've heard, I actually heard this from Tucker Carlson on Theovon,

1300
00:45:49.080 --> 00:45:50.080
which is amazing.

1301
00:45:50.080 --> 00:45:55.520
If you guys haven't seen it, you guys should watch it after this episode, that this Nicaret

1302
00:45:55.520 --> 00:45:59.880
stuff, like nicotine in and of itself isn't necessarily a bad thing, but it's this stuff

1303
00:45:59.880 --> 00:46:03.440
of the auxiliary thing that happens when you ingest nicotine usually, which is like the

1304
00:46:03.440 --> 00:46:06.120
smoke that hurts your lungs or your gums and et cetera.

1305
00:46:06.120 --> 00:46:08.640
But nicotine actually increases mental acuity.

1306
00:46:08.640 --> 00:46:11.080
It makes you more energetic.

1307
00:46:11.080 --> 00:46:12.560
It motivates you, et cetera.

1308
00:46:12.560 --> 00:46:14.960
Have you noticed the same thing with this Nicaret?

1309
00:46:14.960 --> 00:46:18.120
I mean, I've been chewing Nicaret for like 14 years.

1310
00:46:18.120 --> 00:46:19.120
Really?

1311
00:46:19.120 --> 00:46:20.120
I didn't know this.

1312
00:46:20.120 --> 00:46:21.120
Why?

1313
00:46:21.120 --> 00:46:22.120
Why do you start telling her?

1314
00:46:22.120 --> 00:46:24.720
Well, I mean, I like nicotine in general.

1315
00:46:24.720 --> 00:46:26.840
How did you get started on that?

1316
00:46:26.840 --> 00:46:28.640
I started chewing nicotine.

1317
00:46:28.640 --> 00:46:30.240
You started chewing it or you started smoking?

1318
00:46:30.240 --> 00:46:32.240
I started chewing nicotine.

1319
00:46:32.240 --> 00:46:34.320
You went straight to chewing.

1320
00:46:34.320 --> 00:46:36.400
How do you decide one day I'm going to start chewing?

1321
00:46:36.400 --> 00:46:40.120
I liked dipping and then I was like, well, dipping is bad for you.

1322
00:46:40.120 --> 00:46:41.720
So then I just like started chewing Nicaret.

1323
00:46:41.720 --> 00:46:43.720
Got the same benefits and enjoying it so far.

1324
00:46:43.720 --> 00:46:45.880
What are the benefits that you get?

1325
00:46:45.880 --> 00:46:49.280
It's a, I mean, it's a short acting stimulant, so it's a 30 minute half life.

1326
00:46:49.280 --> 00:46:51.920
So like you can chew this at five o'clock in the afternoon because you want to have like

1327
00:46:51.920 --> 00:46:53.560
a boost from five to seven or something.

1328
00:46:53.560 --> 00:46:54.560
Now 30 minutes.

1329
00:46:54.560 --> 00:46:57.480
So it's like it'll half multiple times in that time period, but you can go to sleep

1330
00:46:57.480 --> 00:46:58.480
fine.

1331
00:46:58.480 --> 00:47:01.280
And so it's one, it's an appetite suppressant.

1332
00:47:01.280 --> 00:47:04.960
So if you are trying to like maintain calories or anything like that, like if you are hungry

1333
00:47:04.960 --> 00:47:07.720
and you're like, ah, shoot, I'm going to, it's, I got to take a call at 12 and I'm hungry

1334
00:47:07.720 --> 00:47:08.720
now.

1335
00:47:08.720 --> 00:47:09.720
I got to wait till one.

1336
00:47:09.720 --> 00:47:11.680
It's like, you can pop into credit and it's just very easy.

1337
00:47:11.680 --> 00:47:14.840
It is stimulant from a energy like perspective.

1338
00:47:14.840 --> 00:47:18.040
It also increases short term memory, which is nice.

1339
00:47:18.040 --> 00:47:21.200
And I have a history of Alzheimer's in my family.

1340
00:47:21.200 --> 00:47:26.680
And it's been shown to decrease the likelihood of Alzheimer's because it promotes angiogenesis,

1341
00:47:26.680 --> 00:47:28.520
which is just basically increasing blood flow on the brain.

1342
00:47:28.520 --> 00:47:30.720
And then what are the negatives of doing that?

1343
00:47:30.720 --> 00:47:32.600
I'm about any.

1344
00:47:32.600 --> 00:47:37.640
I see nicotine a lot like caffeine, like it's just, it would just be like, ah, if some

1345
00:47:37.640 --> 00:47:42.080
reason we magically found that coffee had like cancer causing stuff in it, but caffeine

1346
00:47:42.080 --> 00:47:43.080
itself was fine.

1347
00:47:43.080 --> 00:47:44.080
Yeah.

1348
00:47:44.080 --> 00:47:45.080
It's like, okay, well, don't drink coffee.

1349
00:47:45.080 --> 00:47:47.480
You can still like drink Mountain Dew or you can just take caffeine pills.

1350
00:47:47.480 --> 00:47:48.480
Exactly.

1351
00:47:48.480 --> 00:47:50.320
I see nicotine the same way.

1352
00:47:50.320 --> 00:47:52.800
And I also haven't found myself addicted to it.

1353
00:47:52.800 --> 00:47:54.200
Like I forget to chew it.

1354
00:47:54.200 --> 00:47:57.840
I like it because if you want to talk about like associating things from a behavior perspective,

1355
00:47:57.840 --> 00:47:59.840
like I chew nicotine when I work.

1356
00:47:59.840 --> 00:48:01.720
And so I have associated work with nicotine.

1357
00:48:01.720 --> 00:48:04.760
And so it's like, if you want to get addicted to work, then put an addictive agent close

1358
00:48:04.760 --> 00:48:06.000
to the thing that you actually want to do.

1359
00:48:06.000 --> 00:48:07.680
But if I don't work, I forget to chew it.

1360
00:48:07.680 --> 00:48:10.400
Why aren't smokers just chewing Nicarat gum all the time?

1361
00:48:10.400 --> 00:48:12.240
Because smoking is the dicting.

1362
00:48:12.240 --> 00:48:13.480
It's the oral fixation.

1363
00:48:13.480 --> 00:48:14.480
Smoking is the dicting.

1364
00:48:14.480 --> 00:48:17.640
I guess this is the first I've ever heard of someone just chewing the gum.

1365
00:48:17.640 --> 00:48:18.640
Yes.

1366
00:48:18.640 --> 00:48:19.640
Smoking.

1367
00:48:19.640 --> 00:48:21.560
Like nicotine in and of itself.

1368
00:48:21.560 --> 00:48:23.800
And I'm never going to get in the science, pros and the comments.

1369
00:48:23.800 --> 00:48:26.520
But like I have no draw it.

1370
00:48:26.520 --> 00:48:27.520
I forget to take it.

1371
00:48:27.520 --> 00:48:28.520
It might say take it.

1372
00:48:28.520 --> 00:48:29.520
I mean, chew it.

1373
00:48:29.520 --> 00:48:30.680
I forget to chew it.

1374
00:48:30.680 --> 00:48:34.600
So I have not found it to be addictive or the science people that I know into and of

1375
00:48:34.600 --> 00:48:36.200
itself is not addictive.

1376
00:48:36.200 --> 00:48:40.200
It is the other things like chewing tobacco, like the act of dipping, things like that

1377
00:48:40.200 --> 00:48:43.320
are addictive smoking is addictive vaping itself is like the.

1378
00:48:43.320 --> 00:48:47.400
I thought those were addictive because of the nicotine, not because of the way they're

1379
00:48:47.400 --> 00:48:48.400
consumed.

1380
00:48:48.400 --> 00:48:52.000
I was saying you could have decaf coffee and it would satisfy your coffee addiction in

1381
00:48:52.000 --> 00:48:53.000
the same way.

1382
00:48:53.000 --> 00:48:56.640
Essentially assuming caffeine and nicotine are what would be like me smoking a cigarette

1383
00:48:56.640 --> 00:48:58.000
that doesn't have caffeine.

1384
00:48:58.000 --> 00:48:59.000
If that was the analogy.

1385
00:48:59.000 --> 00:49:00.000
Right.

1386
00:49:00.000 --> 00:49:01.000
So I don't understand.

1387
00:49:01.000 --> 00:49:02.000
Well, no, no, no.

1388
00:49:02.000 --> 00:49:04.360
Like you're saying it's not necessarily the nicotine because you say you forget to take

1389
00:49:04.360 --> 00:49:05.360
it.

1390
00:49:05.360 --> 00:49:06.360
Yeah.

1391
00:49:06.360 --> 00:49:07.840
But for the people that are addicted to smoking cigarettes, it's the oral fixation.

1392
00:49:07.840 --> 00:49:08.840
Things are paired.

1393
00:49:08.840 --> 00:49:09.840
I think it's the together.

1394
00:49:09.840 --> 00:49:10.840
God.

1395
00:49:10.840 --> 00:49:11.840
I think it's both the things together.

1396
00:49:11.840 --> 00:49:14.800
And also like there's also many because like also when do people smoke and like this

1397
00:49:14.800 --> 00:49:17.600
is getting be like I want to be very clear this is beyond my, you know, my scope.

1398
00:49:17.600 --> 00:49:20.600
But people pair things that are positive with smoking.

1399
00:49:20.600 --> 00:49:23.360
So it's like you go outside.

1400
00:49:23.360 --> 00:49:24.360
You get some time.

1401
00:49:24.360 --> 00:49:25.360
Like you're working.

1402
00:49:25.360 --> 00:49:27.120
You associate it with a break and then you light up.

1403
00:49:27.120 --> 00:49:30.760
So it's like there's all of the other things that get associated with together and that's

1404
00:49:30.760 --> 00:49:33.040
what gets harder to, to quit.

1405
00:49:33.040 --> 00:49:34.040
Got it.

1406
00:49:34.040 --> 00:49:35.040
That makes sense.

1407
00:49:35.040 --> 00:49:36.040
Yeah.

1408
00:49:36.040 --> 00:49:37.040
But I enjoy it.

1409
00:49:37.040 --> 00:49:40.800
If you are one of some days start into the nicotine world, just don't take too much.

1410
00:49:40.800 --> 00:49:44.760
I try to get Laila addicted to it and no one gets addicted to it's no matter.

1411
00:49:44.760 --> 00:49:47.280
But she chewed too much and she was like, this isn't for me.

1412
00:49:47.280 --> 00:49:50.240
I was like, well, that's like drinking a whole bottle of vodka and saying like alcohol

1413
00:49:50.240 --> 00:49:51.240
is in for me.

1414
00:49:51.240 --> 00:49:52.240
I was like, take a shot.

1415
00:49:52.240 --> 00:49:53.240
See how you feel.

1416
00:49:53.240 --> 00:49:56.240
And I think the same thing with the nicotine is like two and a half a milligram and just

1417
00:49:56.240 --> 00:49:57.880
see how you feel and go from there.

1418
00:49:57.880 --> 00:49:58.880
I mean, I chew a ton.

1419
00:49:58.880 --> 00:49:59.880
But I just like it.

1420
00:49:59.880 --> 00:50:00.880
So whatever.

1421
00:50:00.880 --> 00:50:03.120
I do believe that we probably have to put some sort of disclaimer here.

1422
00:50:03.120 --> 00:50:04.120
Yeah.

1423
00:50:04.120 --> 00:50:05.120
Oh, absolutely.

1424
00:50:05.120 --> 00:50:07.840
The iced coffee hour people, we're not knowledgeable on this subject.

1425
00:50:07.840 --> 00:50:08.840
Oh, neither of you.

1426
00:50:08.840 --> 00:50:13.000
Intuitively, I would say don't do it, but you do have somebody that says it has positively

1427
00:50:13.000 --> 00:50:14.000
affected them.

1428
00:50:14.280 --> 00:50:17.520
In the same way that Tucker Carlson said that it has positively affected his life.

1429
00:50:17.520 --> 00:50:18.520
Yeah.

1430
00:50:18.520 --> 00:50:19.520
But I don't know.

1431
00:50:19.520 --> 00:50:20.520
I've just heard bad things.

1432
00:50:20.520 --> 00:50:21.520
That's what they sent me inside.

1433
00:50:21.520 --> 00:50:24.840
And my official stance is don't do it and it doesn't affect me what you do.

1434
00:50:24.840 --> 00:50:27.360
So like, and what I do doesn't affect you.

1435
00:50:27.360 --> 00:50:28.360
That's fine.

1436
00:50:28.360 --> 00:50:30.400
I have accepted whatever risks come with it.

1437
00:50:30.400 --> 00:50:31.400
I enjoy it.

1438
00:50:31.400 --> 00:50:33.640
And if I die five years younger, it's okay.

1439
00:50:33.640 --> 00:50:34.640
All right.

1440
00:50:34.640 --> 00:50:35.640
That's so fascinating.

1441
00:50:35.640 --> 00:50:39.800
I laugh the laugh at the end.

1442
00:50:39.800 --> 00:50:43.560
Why do you need to live a long time anyways?

1443
00:50:43.560 --> 00:50:49.080
Well, because compared to a thousand years, assuming that only life are only opportunity

1444
00:50:49.080 --> 00:50:50.680
at anything, right?

1445
00:50:50.680 --> 00:50:52.200
Then wouldn't you want to extend it?

1446
00:50:52.200 --> 00:50:53.200
No, not necessarily.

1447
00:50:53.200 --> 00:50:56.800
I think there's a difference in health span and workspan in life span.

1448
00:50:56.800 --> 00:50:59.960
Like some people like add years to their life, but they don't add life to their years.

1449
00:50:59.960 --> 00:51:01.120
That's great.

1450
00:51:01.120 --> 00:51:02.120
I like that a lot.

1451
00:51:02.120 --> 00:51:03.120
That's a fantastic one.

1452
00:51:03.120 --> 00:51:04.400
You've tweeted that I'm guessing?

1453
00:51:04.400 --> 00:51:05.400
No.

1454
00:51:05.400 --> 00:51:06.400
I'm sure someone is.

1455
00:51:06.400 --> 00:51:07.400
You should.

1456
00:51:07.400 --> 00:51:08.640
That's a great tweet right there.

1457
00:51:08.640 --> 00:51:15.200
Do you have any other tricks like the Solomon chats that you employ to be better off?

1458
00:51:15.200 --> 00:51:16.200
Sure.

1459
00:51:16.200 --> 00:51:21.560
I have a lot of frames on dealing with stress and missed expectations because I think if

1460
00:51:21.560 --> 00:51:25.160
you're in business or really just in life in general, like you're bound to have expectations

1461
00:51:25.160 --> 00:51:26.160
that are not met.

1462
00:51:26.160 --> 00:51:31.040
And so I have just had a number of, to your word, tricks that I've used, so like one of

1463
00:51:31.040 --> 00:51:34.720
them is one that I call the frame of the veteran, which I have for Dr. Cashy, which is basically

1464
00:51:34.720 --> 00:51:36.240
like something that happens.

1465
00:51:36.240 --> 00:51:39.760
And then you imagine that it happens a thousand times in a row after that.

1466
00:51:39.760 --> 00:51:43.880
And then you think, okay, well, how would I feel in the thousandth time of this happening?

1467
00:51:43.880 --> 00:51:46.560
And usually on the thousandth time, you would have already habituated to it and just be a

1468
00:51:46.560 --> 00:51:48.040
part or a fact of life.

1469
00:51:48.040 --> 00:51:50.560
It's like, well, if that's how I can feel about it then, then I might as well feel about

1470
00:51:50.560 --> 00:51:52.280
it now, that way now.

1471
00:51:52.280 --> 00:51:55.240
And so I actually, the first time I ever used it, I had, I just bought this, this just

1472
00:51:55.240 --> 00:51:56.240
sounds so hokey.

1473
00:51:56.240 --> 00:51:57.920
I got this flint of shirt that I really liked.

1474
00:51:57.920 --> 00:52:00.360
It was like a color scheme I thought was cool.

1475
00:52:00.360 --> 00:52:06.160
And the maid that I had shrunk it, and I was like super annoyed.

1476
00:52:06.160 --> 00:52:09.440
And I thought to myself, I was like, well, if everything that she ever did shrunk, and

1477
00:52:09.440 --> 00:52:12.080
every time I washed something, it shrunk, then I wouldn't be upset about it because it

1478
00:52:12.080 --> 00:52:15.680
just would be how close work in the dryer.

1479
00:52:15.680 --> 00:52:18.920
Or so, if that's how it always was, then I wouldn't be upset about it.

1480
00:52:18.920 --> 00:52:21.400
So if I can choose to not be upset about it, then I won't be upset about it now and then

1481
00:52:21.400 --> 00:52:22.400
it was over.

1482
00:52:22.400 --> 00:52:26.200
And so it's like having frameworks like that that have served me really well.

1483
00:52:26.200 --> 00:52:31.080
So the reason I had the time one, when we just talked about like lifespan, is like, when

1484
00:52:31.080 --> 00:52:34.840
my cat Bill died, I was super bombed because I really liked the cat, and he died at like

1485
00:52:34.840 --> 00:52:35.840
18 months.

1486
00:52:35.840 --> 00:52:36.840
So it was kind of like weird.

1487
00:52:36.840 --> 00:52:39.040
It was like a freak odd death.

1488
00:52:39.040 --> 00:52:40.040
And I remember being sad about it.

1489
00:52:40.040 --> 00:52:41.320
I was like, why am I sad?

1490
00:52:41.320 --> 00:52:43.440
Like why am I sad?

1491
00:52:43.440 --> 00:52:47.560
And I was like, I feel like it's not fair that he lives such a short life.

1492
00:52:47.560 --> 00:52:51.280
I was like, okay, so that means that I had an expectation that he would live longer than

1493
00:52:51.280 --> 00:52:52.280
he did.

1494
00:52:52.360 --> 00:52:59.520
I was like, what if cats only lived six months and I got dang out with Bill for 18 months?

1495
00:52:59.520 --> 00:53:01.800
Well, then I'd be like, well, shit, I mean, he lived a good long life.

1496
00:53:01.800 --> 00:53:04.720
I mean, I got him three times longer than most people get the cats.

1497
00:53:04.720 --> 00:53:07.920
And so then all of a sudden, like my status was like, it shifted to like more of an appreciation

1498
00:53:07.920 --> 00:53:09.360
for the time that I had with him.

1499
00:53:09.360 --> 00:53:15.160
And so it was simply just shifting my expectation around what I expected or I demanded of the

1500
00:53:15.160 --> 00:53:19.680
universe that my cat should live longer, but like, but why?

1501
00:53:19.680 --> 00:53:24.280
And then I think about that within the context of like our lives, because if all humans

1502
00:53:24.280 --> 00:53:29.400
live to 20, if we like up 34, I'm like, dude, I'm murdering it.

1503
00:53:29.400 --> 00:53:32.720
But like within the context of like all time, we all don't live long at all.

1504
00:53:32.720 --> 00:53:36.680
And so if I got to live the way that I wanted to live for the extent of my life, it's only

1505
00:53:36.680 --> 00:53:41.160
the expectation that I would deserve to or demand that I live longer and have that unmet,

1506
00:53:41.160 --> 00:53:43.240
which is the thing that would cause me to be more upset.

1507
00:53:43.240 --> 00:53:48.600
But if I make life choices that cause me to live till 75 versus 85, the lifespan is still

1508
00:53:48.600 --> 00:53:49.600
the lifespan.

1509
00:53:49.600 --> 00:53:50.600
And the only thing I lose is the present.

1510
00:53:50.600 --> 00:53:54.200
So all of these things, what I like about it is that it's just a change in perspective.

1511
00:53:54.200 --> 00:53:57.360
Now, a change in what is, it's just a different framework of mine.

1512
00:53:57.360 --> 00:53:58.360
How you see it.

1513
00:53:58.360 --> 00:54:00.520
And that makes all the difference.

1514
00:54:00.520 --> 00:54:04.160
One of the other frames I use is it's just zooming all the way out, which is one of my favorites,

1515
00:54:04.160 --> 00:54:08.320
which is just, you have this instance that bothers you, whatever happened, where I lose

1516
00:54:08.320 --> 00:54:09.320
$15 million.

1517
00:54:09.320 --> 00:54:10.320
Really upset about it.

1518
00:54:10.320 --> 00:54:11.320
And then I just like zoom all the way out.

1519
00:54:11.320 --> 00:54:13.840
And I'm like, you know, far enough out, you can't even see the earth.

1520
00:54:13.840 --> 00:54:18.480
And I just like remind myself of that and then I'm like, okay, it's just doesn't matter.

1521
00:54:18.480 --> 00:54:19.760
And then I zoom back in again.

1522
00:54:19.760 --> 00:54:24.840
And so I usually play with time and space in terms of trying to reframe whatever the issue

1523
00:54:24.840 --> 00:54:27.840
is that I'm upset about and think like, well, what is the expectation that I have and

1524
00:54:27.840 --> 00:54:28.840
how is it on that?

1525
00:54:28.840 --> 00:54:29.840
And how can I shift that expectation?

1526
00:54:29.840 --> 00:54:31.920
And what if the expectations were completely different?

1527
00:54:31.920 --> 00:54:36.400
What if every time I drove, there was always 20 minutes of traffic, would I still be upset?

1528
00:54:36.400 --> 00:54:38.640
Probably not, because it would be just like how it always is.

1529
00:54:38.640 --> 00:54:42.120
And so like using those things on a regular basis, I think it allowed me to make better

1530
00:54:42.120 --> 00:54:45.640
decisions and be a little bit less emotional or reactive to bad news.

1531
00:54:45.640 --> 00:54:48.760
And I think if you compound that like small amount of space that you can create for yourself

1532
00:54:48.760 --> 00:54:50.640
for an extended period of time, you can make better decisions.

1533
00:54:50.640 --> 00:54:54.040
And so that's probably been to answer your question like some of the tricks that have

1534
00:54:54.040 --> 00:54:56.360
been really useful for me.

1535
00:54:56.360 --> 00:54:59.720
I'm wondering because you spend a lot of your time working and it seems like you have

1536
00:54:59.720 --> 00:55:02.520
this routine every single day is somewhat similar.

1537
00:55:02.520 --> 00:55:05.520
Are you concerned that you're spending some period of time in your life that a lot of

1538
00:55:05.520 --> 00:55:09.680
people would deem like the golden years doing the same thing over and over again rather

1539
00:55:09.680 --> 00:55:13.800
than like openness to experience and maybe trying traveling or trying and going this, doing

1540
00:55:13.800 --> 00:55:15.840
this new hobby, like this ping-pong thing, right?

1541
00:55:15.840 --> 00:55:18.880
Doing a new thing and experiencing it and then what if it's like 10 times better than

1542
00:55:18.880 --> 00:55:19.880
whatever you had?

1543
00:55:19.880 --> 00:55:23.000
What if you allocated a certain percentage of your time on a weekly basis to try out

1544
00:55:23.000 --> 00:55:24.000
something new?

1545
00:55:24.000 --> 00:55:27.760
Well, one I wouldn't know if there was something that was better.

1546
00:55:27.760 --> 00:55:30.880
And so that doesn't bother me very much like there could be some, I'm sure there's

1547
00:55:30.880 --> 00:55:35.040
something that could be hypothetically better, but I also would heat anistically adapt

1548
00:55:35.040 --> 00:55:38.280
to it anyways and probably return right back to my baseline.

1549
00:55:38.280 --> 00:55:42.080
I mean, there are people who live in Africa who never leave the tribe and are happier

1550
00:55:42.080 --> 00:55:43.080
than we are.

1551
00:55:43.080 --> 00:55:48.680
I don't think finding out more things is like the path, but for me to somebody who would

1552
00:55:48.680 --> 00:55:54.800
criticize my quote way of living, I do exactly what I want with as a highest percentage of

1553
00:55:54.800 --> 00:55:57.040
my day as a humanly can with the people that I want to do it with.

1554
00:55:57.040 --> 00:56:03.280
And so like I get criticized from family still to a degree that I quote work too much.

1555
00:56:03.280 --> 00:56:07.280
But that's because like their projection of what work means to them is just so negative.

1556
00:56:07.280 --> 00:56:10.920
And if I said all I do is play video games all day, then they would say that I'm now

1557
00:56:10.920 --> 00:56:11.920
working enough.

1558
00:56:11.920 --> 00:56:14.480
And what if I, my job was to play video games all day, then I'd be working too much.

1559
00:56:14.480 --> 00:56:18.680
It's just like, it's simply just their projections of how they would prefer I live my life.

1560
00:56:18.680 --> 00:56:21.840
Their statement is I would prefer you live your life the way I want you to live your

1561
00:56:21.840 --> 00:56:24.200
life to which I say no.

1562
00:56:24.200 --> 00:56:26.320
So I live my life the way I want to live it.

1563
00:56:26.320 --> 00:56:28.520
And that is enough.

1564
00:56:28.520 --> 00:56:29.520
Cool.

1565
00:56:29.520 --> 00:56:30.520
A lot of it.

1566
00:56:30.520 --> 00:56:31.520
Okay.

1567
00:56:31.520 --> 00:56:32.520
Thank you, man.

1568
00:56:32.520 --> 00:56:33.520
Fantastic.

1569
00:56:33.520 --> 00:56:34.520
Thank you guys.

1570
00:56:34.520 --> 00:56:35.520
That was great.

1571
00:56:35.520 --> 00:56:36.520
We're so happy to have you on.

1572
00:56:36.520 --> 00:56:40.720
I want like, I mean, if it's not too much as every year, you know, they're recurring

1573
00:56:40.720 --> 00:56:41.720
guests.

1574
00:56:41.720 --> 00:56:42.720
Look it.

1575
00:56:42.720 --> 00:56:43.720
We have developments.

1576
00:56:43.720 --> 00:56:44.720
Like last time.

1577
00:56:44.720 --> 00:56:45.720
It should.

1578
00:56:45.720 --> 00:56:46.720
Now it's about the cousins.

1579
00:56:46.720 --> 00:56:47.720
Exactly.

1580
00:56:47.720 --> 00:56:48.720
That's a huge change.

1581
00:56:48.720 --> 00:56:50.720
And I bet you next time there's going to be more exemptions.

1582
00:56:50.720 --> 00:56:51.720
Probably.

1583
00:56:51.720 --> 00:56:52.720
You know what I mean?

1584
00:56:52.720 --> 00:56:53.720
Yeah.

1585
00:56:53.720 --> 00:56:54.720
I'm going to try to limit all labeling language, but that is a big one.

1586
00:56:54.720 --> 00:56:55.720
Then there's not even any is.

1587
00:56:55.720 --> 00:56:56.720
Yeah.

1588
00:56:56.720 --> 00:56:57.720
Just.

1589
00:56:57.720 --> 00:56:58.720
I mean, yeah.

1590
00:56:58.720 --> 00:56:59.720
That actually is important.