WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:05.760 Real Life presents the Jack Kibs podcast with intention and boldness to proclaim 2 00:00:05.760 --> 00:00:10.080 truth, equip the saints and impact our culture. Hey you guys we're gonna be 3 00:00:10.080 --> 00:00:13.960 talking about worship, what's acceptable, what's not, who wrote the song, who 4 00:00:13.960 --> 00:00:18.880 didn't, where does it come from? Hey what in the world is going on? Let's find 5 00:00:18.880 --> 00:00:26.760 out in the area of worship. You can get the outlines of this podcast by going to 6 00:00:26.760 --> 00:00:33.560 jackhibs.com slash podcast. Today if this podcast lifts you up and encourages 7 00:00:33.560 --> 00:00:37.600 you to live a more fulfilled life in Christ, then make sure you leave us one of 8 00:00:37.600 --> 00:00:43.280 those five star ratings. To us, that's like saying amen or yes. Then that 9 00:00:43.280 --> 00:00:48.040 rating will encourage others to listen. Now open your hearts to what God's word 10 00:00:48.040 --> 00:00:54.040 has to say to you. Here is Jack Hibs. Hey everybody welcome back to the podcast. 11 00:00:54.040 --> 00:01:00.760 This is a podcast I cannot win. I can't win. That's okay. I don't really care 12 00:01:00.760 --> 00:01:05.500 about that. I just delighted about the fact that I'm going to heaven based on the 13 00:01:05.500 --> 00:01:11.600 blood of Jesus Christ shed for me and you at the cross of Christ in Jerusalem 14 00:01:11.600 --> 00:01:19.120 2000 years ago on Mount Moriah at the top of Golgotha all designed by God back in 15 00:01:19.120 --> 00:01:24.480 the book of Genesis and fulfilled in the four gospels. I love the fact that our 16 00:01:24.480 --> 00:01:30.520 faith is founded upon fact. You've heard of that before. Our faith as a believer 17 00:01:30.520 --> 00:01:35.320 in the Lord Jesus Christ and in the word of God as a follower of Christ. I'm not 18 00:01:35.320 --> 00:01:38.000 going to use the word Christian because everybody's a Christian. If a Mormon 19 00:01:38.000 --> 00:01:42.000 knocks on my door, they announce their Christians. If a Jovo witness knocks on 20 00:01:42.000 --> 00:01:47.600 my door, they announce that their Christians. I think if the if the new cultist 21 00:01:47.600 --> 00:01:52.800 I don't care who it is. Everybody's a Christian. I'm kind of getting away 22 00:01:52.800 --> 00:01:58.640 from using that term. I'm using the term now a Christ follower. If you're a 23 00:01:58.640 --> 00:02:06.480 Christ follower, you are forgiven because Jesus died on the cross for your 24 00:02:06.480 --> 00:02:14.360 sins. He rose again from the dead to guarantee your justification. Then he 25 00:02:14.360 --> 00:02:18.260 sent the Holy Spirit to dwell inside of you to make you the temple of the 26 00:02:18.260 --> 00:02:25.320 living God. Scripture announces and there's a day coming in this work called 27 00:02:25.320 --> 00:02:30.600 sanctification. When the Spirit of God will it will have finished his work and you 28 00:02:30.600 --> 00:02:34.880 and I will either go to Christ at the moment of our death or the rapture will 29 00:02:34.880 --> 00:02:39.040 take place and will meet each other in the air because the job will have been 30 00:02:39.040 --> 00:02:44.000 completed. Having said that, let's get down to the podcast I cannot win. This is 31 00:02:44.000 --> 00:02:47.720 going to generate. I don't know if it's going to generate any more viewers than 32 00:02:47.720 --> 00:02:53.120 normal, but it will probably generate way more comments than normal because 33 00:02:53.120 --> 00:02:59.000 everybody is coming from their own position on this one. But I have to 34 00:02:59.000 --> 00:03:04.520 I have to announce something. Listen, you're hello. I have to announce something. 35 00:03:04.520 --> 00:03:09.800 What I'm about to share with you. I don't have any bullets in my barrel 36 00:03:09.800 --> 00:03:16.000 preloaded. I've got nothing preloaded. I have look within me with what I'm 37 00:03:16.000 --> 00:03:22.280 about to say there is no guile. I don't have an agenda with what I'm going to 38 00:03:22.280 --> 00:03:26.520 say to you. When you hear it you're going to like freak or you're going to think 39 00:03:26.520 --> 00:03:31.760 about it or maybe you might even say yeah I'm kind of like you. It's the issue of 40 00:03:31.760 --> 00:03:39.800 worship. I assume it doesn't have to be limited to, but I'm assuming public 41 00:03:39.800 --> 00:03:45.000 worship, worship a church for example. So here's the question that people ask. 42 00:03:45.000 --> 00:03:56.300 And I'll explain why I'm innocent before I am declared guilty. I am in my 43 00:03:56.300 --> 00:04:07.580 mid 60s and so I am a product of the Jesus people, the Jesus movement era. So Keith 44 00:04:07.580 --> 00:04:18.500 Green, right? Love song, the way, Danny Correll, love that guy, Darryl Mansfield, 45 00:04:18.500 --> 00:04:24.980 Sweet Comfort Band, mustard seed faith. Okay, 90% of you don't even know what I'm 46 00:04:24.980 --> 00:04:31.660 talking about. So I want you to, though, keep that in mind because the playing 47 00:04:31.660 --> 00:04:38.540 field becomes level in a moment. You don't know who I'm talking about, but I don't 48 00:04:38.540 --> 00:04:46.460 know who you're talking about when, for example, when we do a song either at the 49 00:04:46.460 --> 00:04:51.740 church I pastor or at some gathering or maybe I go to some stadium event, Christian 50 00:04:51.740 --> 00:05:00.620 event, and there's a song being played. I always listen to the words to a song. Remember 51 00:05:00.620 --> 00:05:04.580 when we were not Christians, we, we sang the stupidest songs. It wouldn't even know 52 00:05:04.580 --> 00:05:10.100 what they meant. Thank God. Or maybe we did. But now you hear a song that you used to 53 00:05:10.100 --> 00:05:14.460 sing when you were in the world and it's like, what a stupid song that was. But you know 54 00:05:14.460 --> 00:05:21.140 how we were. We didn't even know we had zero discernment. Right. So now is a believer. 55 00:05:21.140 --> 00:05:28.700 I'm always listening to every word. And so for me, I'm a big, if you know me, I'm a 56 00:05:28.700 --> 00:05:34.580 big freak about Bible doctrine. Okay. Does it honor God? Let's hear this song. What are 57 00:05:34.580 --> 00:05:45.700 the words? Oh, that's awesome. Who's singing that song? You, you might be more curious 58 00:05:45.700 --> 00:05:55.820 than I am than who the singer is. I personally don't care. If I hear a worship song or Christian 59 00:05:55.820 --> 00:06:01.420 praise, I'm not a real big fan of, I'm, look, I'm confessing. I'm not a big fan of Christian 60 00:06:01.420 --> 00:06:06.620 praise music. I guess that's what it's called, right? Contemporary Christian music. I just, 61 00:06:06.620 --> 00:06:10.740 you know what? I just don't buy Christian albums except, I mean, I love Danny Goki because 62 00:06:10.740 --> 00:06:16.180 he's a friend of mine. Love, love that kid. Love him. But outside of that, you know what? 63 00:06:16.180 --> 00:06:19.820 I just don't go out and buy Christian artists. I just don't, I just don't have appetite for 64 00:06:19.820 --> 00:06:26.140 it. Sorry. I don't listen to much music, classical type stuff. I love that stuff. But when 65 00:06:26.140 --> 00:06:31.340 it comes down to worship music, people will say, how can you listen to that? You just, I 66 00:06:31.340 --> 00:06:35.740 saw your lips moving. Pastor Jack, I just saw your lips moving to that song. How could 67 00:06:35.740 --> 00:06:40.380 you dare sing that song? What? What are you talking about? It's an awesome song. Look 68 00:06:40.380 --> 00:06:47.220 at the words on the screen. Don't you know that that song by some people, some, some 69 00:06:47.220 --> 00:06:54.460 group? No, I didn't know that. This really happens in my life all the time because, 70 00:06:54.460 --> 00:06:59.620 hey, I never stopped to look at who wrote that awesome song. You're going to come back 71 00:06:59.620 --> 00:07:06.220 and say, you should look. I don't want to look. I'm not going to look. I judge the words 72 00:07:06.220 --> 00:07:14.900 of the song against the Bible and is it glorifying Christ? And I got to tell you, if, if some 73 00:07:14.900 --> 00:07:24.300 really great, super conservative Christian singer sings a stupid song that talks about, I 74 00:07:24.300 --> 00:07:28.620 tell you what, I'm going to get in trouble, but let's just go for it, right? Who cares? 75 00:07:28.620 --> 00:07:33.380 There was a song years ago, decades ago called, I am a friend of God. I am a friend of 76 00:07:33.380 --> 00:07:38.540 God. I'm a friend of God. I'm a friend of God. It's like, oh, when you shut up about that 77 00:07:38.540 --> 00:07:43.260 song, it was so stupid. If you looked at the words, it's like, oh, my friend, he's my 78 00:07:43.260 --> 00:07:48.820 friend. I mean, it's just shy of having a big, you know, purple dinosaur walk around 79 00:07:48.820 --> 00:07:54.940 singing it. It was like, what the heck? It didn't make any sense to me. And so, I don't 80 00:07:54.940 --> 00:08:00.140 know who wrote it. Maybe you wrote it. I'm sorry. It was just dumb, dumb song. But when 81 00:08:00.140 --> 00:08:08.500 somebody comes along and says, that song that says, do you hear, do you, do you see or 82 00:08:08.500 --> 00:08:14.620 do you hear the spirit of moving or something we do? Who sings that song? Something, something 83 00:08:14.620 --> 00:08:21.540 we respond by some, what's his name? Chris Tomlin. So Chris Tomlin sings that song says, 84 00:08:21.540 --> 00:08:28.420 whatever the words is the spirit here among us, he is, he is. I don't know Chris Tomlin. 85 00:08:28.420 --> 00:08:37.220 I think I met him two or three times at an event. I don't know him. Is he still walking 86 00:08:37.220 --> 00:08:43.500 with God? I don't know. But the words of the song, biblically, are tight. All right. So 87 00:08:43.500 --> 00:08:49.980 I'm going to sing it. Well, what about, what about this Hillsong song? Well, I don't know 88 00:08:49.980 --> 00:08:56.180 about the, what, I don't know who did songs, what songs? Oh, it's this song. So let's play 89 00:08:56.180 --> 00:09:02.900 real life stuff here right now. Oh, what? Wait. So you're saying Hillsong wrote this song 90 00:09:02.900 --> 00:09:09.940 that was just sung? Yeah. Those are great words. Yeah. But Hillsong wrote it. Or I'm making 91 00:09:09.940 --> 00:09:13.860 this up people. So bear with me. Cut a big slice of grace here. What other pastors 92 00:09:13.860 --> 00:09:18.940 stupid enough to take this topic on? Um, what, who are the, who are the guys? Who are 93 00:09:18.940 --> 00:09:28.940 the worship big deals? Bethel elevation, Hillsong. Is that it? Okay. So those guys, don't 94 00:09:28.940 --> 00:09:37.740 you know, they, I don't know. Well, Pastor, you should know. Wait. Are the words honoring 95 00:09:37.740 --> 00:09:42.340 and glorifying to God? Am I entering into the presence of God because it's doctrinally 96 00:09:42.340 --> 00:09:48.660 accurate? See, because I don't spend the time to find out who wrote the song, I look 97 00:09:48.660 --> 00:09:56.780 at the content of the English language used in the song. I judge it against my Bible. 98 00:09:56.780 --> 00:10:02.500 And I conclude, that's an awesome song. I'm going to sing it. Oh, but if you knew the 99 00:10:02.500 --> 00:10:08.700 lady who's saying, I don't know and I don't want to know her. My conscience is clear and 100 00:10:08.700 --> 00:10:21.020 clean before God. And I make that song a prayer to him in worship. Okay. And I have total 101 00:10:21.020 --> 00:10:27.460 liberty and freedom in Christ to worship him because I don't know what you know about 102 00:10:27.460 --> 00:10:35.900 that song. Okay. Now, if you know something about a song that bothers you, then you can't 103 00:10:35.900 --> 00:10:43.860 sing it. You can't sing it. You. But don't go tell your friend that they can't sing it. 104 00:10:43.860 --> 00:10:49.060 The Bible says that's not a good thing to do. You're imposing your conscience. If it's 105 00:10:49.060 --> 00:10:53.660 bad doctrine, let's all not sing it. Are you with me, everybody? If it's bad doctrine, 106 00:10:53.660 --> 00:11:04.620 let's all not sing it. But if you know, the woman who sings that song, slip with rocky, 107 00:11:04.620 --> 00:11:12.420 listen, that you, you just turn that off. You get away from that song. But watch what happens. 108 00:11:12.420 --> 00:11:18.460 Watch how this goes south real quick. Don't turn to your friend who's completely innocent 109 00:11:18.460 --> 00:11:24.860 about that incredibly well written song. And don't say to them, did you know that three 110 00:11:24.860 --> 00:11:32.820 years ago she slept with rocky? Guess what you just did? You just perpetuated a sin. 111 00:11:32.820 --> 00:11:38.980 You gossiped. You slandered. And then you just abused the conscience of your friend. 112 00:11:38.980 --> 00:11:44.900 That's at least four sins that you just committed to make yourself feel better. Zip your lip. 113 00:11:44.900 --> 00:11:52.260 Don't don't sing the song. And if your friend is blessed by that song and they don't know 114 00:11:52.260 --> 00:11:59.300 anything about it, then you keep that silent. This is a personal conviction. Personally, 115 00:11:59.300 --> 00:12:06.500 your conscience has got to be free when you worship. Okay? That's why you might say, 116 00:12:06.500 --> 00:12:14.180 well, look at you endorsing ignorance as a bliss. Hey, you know what? There's a lot of truth 117 00:12:14.180 --> 00:12:20.500 to that. If I'm going to go in for brain surgery, the last thing I'm going to do is go on YouTube 118 00:12:20.500 --> 00:12:27.140 to find out what they're going to do to me. I don't want to know. Because if I know, 119 00:12:27.140 --> 00:12:33.220 I'm not going to show up in the morning for brain surgery. Okay? When it comes to worship, 120 00:12:34.020 --> 00:12:38.340 if there's a song, what if there's a song that's played by our worship group, 121 00:12:39.140 --> 00:12:45.380 and you really love it, but you hate me. And then you find out that's such a great song. 122 00:12:46.260 --> 00:12:50.340 Man, I really entered into God's presence on that song. Who wrote that song? And it says, 123 00:12:51.220 --> 00:12:57.460 Jack in the box wrote this song. You'd say, I hate that guy. Now what are you going to do at this 124 00:12:57.460 --> 00:13:06.340 song? You see, you can't sing the song anymore because now your conscience is shaken up. It's not, 125 00:13:06.340 --> 00:13:13.380 it's not, you're not clean anymore. So again, this happens to me all the time. We will be worshiping 126 00:13:13.380 --> 00:13:17.940 and we're having a great time. And then after service, it's funny because we worship before we 127 00:13:17.940 --> 00:13:23.380 teach the word. I personally think we should always teach the word and then worship, 128 00:13:24.420 --> 00:13:29.860 but we have a tradition in this Western world of ours. Be that as it may. So people will come 129 00:13:29.860 --> 00:13:34.820 up to me. The first thing they say is that song we sang, the third one. Did you know that that's a 130 00:13:35.860 --> 00:13:44.660 Hillsong elevate Bethel song? I didn't know that. You should. You got to go tell them. Tell them not 131 00:13:44.660 --> 00:13:51.140 to sing in a third service. Okay, well, that ain't going to happen. What God has just told you is 132 00:13:51.140 --> 00:13:56.740 that you can't handle that song. You know something about it and you need to honor your conscience 133 00:13:56.740 --> 00:14:04.900 before the Lord. If it doesn't sit well with you, don't sing it. But you can't. And remember, 134 00:14:04.900 --> 00:14:13.220 everybody, the, the, the big assumption is it's doctorally accurate, which causes me to come down 135 00:14:13.220 --> 00:14:23.460 to. I think might be our last push on this. I heard somebody tell me once that song we just sang, 136 00:14:24.020 --> 00:14:30.260 they talked about Lord. I'm going from memory now. Lord, you know, bring your fire down upon us, 137 00:14:30.260 --> 00:14:36.980 bring your, send your fire. Okay, the moment you say to me, send your fire down upon the offering, 138 00:14:36.980 --> 00:14:44.020 oh God, I immediately think of the Old Testament in the book of Leviticus. I think of the priest 139 00:14:44.020 --> 00:14:55.060 offering up a lamb or an ox as a burnt offering. When, and the fire of God comes down and consumes 140 00:14:55.060 --> 00:15:00.260 the offering, that's what I'm thinking about. No more than, why is this person so upset? 141 00:15:00.500 --> 00:15:12.020 Because they later tell me, oh, I'm from one of those groups. And when they say fire, they mean this. 142 00:15:13.940 --> 00:15:21.780 Wow, that's weird. I agree with you. Really weird. Or when they say, send your spirit down, 143 00:15:22.420 --> 00:15:26.980 they mean this. Really? I didn't know that. Thank you for telling me. 144 00:15:27.060 --> 00:15:33.220 So don't sing that song of it. Violate your conscience. I got, I got, let's, I got news for you. 145 00:15:34.580 --> 00:15:40.180 That's not, I never knew that. I didn't know that, that's what they did to the English language. 146 00:15:41.460 --> 00:15:49.220 You see, they took a word about sending your spirit down upon us. And they say, yeah, you know, 147 00:15:49.220 --> 00:15:53.140 what, when that happens, you've got gold dust all over your head and money starts coming out 148 00:15:53.140 --> 00:15:58.740 of your ears. And, you know, you've got like beams of light shooting forth from your fingers. 149 00:15:59.380 --> 00:16:06.100 That's insane. I didn't know that, but it sure is a good, awesome worship song. I'm going to continue 150 00:16:06.100 --> 00:16:10.740 to sing it because I don't believe in any of that stupid stuff. I'm going to, I'm going to keep 151 00:16:10.740 --> 00:16:17.860 it sanctified to God. Why? For a lot of reasons, but one of them is I am not going to let anyone 152 00:16:17.860 --> 00:16:26.260 rob me of my native tongue, my, my English language to assign meaning to words that are different 153 00:16:26.260 --> 00:16:35.460 than what they were given. I'm not going to let somebody, some cook nut redefine a worship song 154 00:16:35.460 --> 00:16:42.500 in its English language meaning to give it new words of meaning. No, I'm going to take the English 155 00:16:42.580 --> 00:16:49.540 language back if that's what they're doing. And I'm going to sing how great thou art with all of my 156 00:16:49.540 --> 00:16:57.300 heart. I'm going to sing the old rugged cross with all that I've got. And when I don't, I don't, 157 00:16:57.300 --> 00:17:03.460 I got to tell you, I am so the songs that we sing here at church. I can't even tell you the names 158 00:17:03.460 --> 00:17:11.300 of those songs. And I don't even know who wrote them. I don't care as long as they're doctrinally 159 00:17:11.300 --> 00:17:16.980 accurate. You may be having a hard time with what I'm saying right now. And I told you that this 160 00:17:16.980 --> 00:17:24.580 was going to be a podcast I can't win. But I didn't set out to win it. I just addressed a topic 161 00:17:24.580 --> 00:17:30.260 that everybody's talking about. But I got to tell you, friend, I'm as innocent as the day is long 162 00:17:30.260 --> 00:17:40.260 on this one. If it is a Christ-centered, Biblically accurate song, I don't care if the Pope wrote it. 163 00:17:41.140 --> 00:17:51.460 I get it. I'm making it my own. See, that's the heart of worship. Watch this. 164 00:17:53.700 --> 00:18:01.700 Jesus loves me. You know, this I know for the Bible tells me so little ones do him be long. Is that 165 00:18:01.700 --> 00:18:07.620 worship? That's ridiculous. When you go to a worship service and you're like, you're like, 166 00:18:08.580 --> 00:18:13.940 in your thing, well, what's up there? Looks like there's antennas in the ceiling. Why does that 167 00:18:13.940 --> 00:18:17.140 person wear their hair like that? And the whole time your mouth is moving to the song, 168 00:18:19.220 --> 00:18:28.980 you never worshiped. But if you are worshiping, you are focused on what you're saying because it's 169 00:18:28.980 --> 00:18:33.140 supposed to come from your heart and you make it, you're offering to God. Even though there's 170 00:18:33.140 --> 00:18:39.620 3,000 people sitting there, each individual is to make that song their worship to God. 171 00:18:41.060 --> 00:18:48.980 That is required of you and me to do the next time we worship in private or in public. Did you 172 00:18:48.980 --> 00:18:55.300 know that? So we could point fingers at a lot of people. That guy's shorts. I mean, his t-shirts 173 00:18:55.940 --> 00:19:03.380 long at the neck. His pants are too tight. His shoes are too expensive. Look, let God judge those 174 00:19:03.380 --> 00:19:07.860 guys in the end, man. I don't know anything about that. The kind of stuff. They could probably say 175 00:19:07.860 --> 00:19:12.660 to me that this Hawaiian shirt looks stupid. I didn't think about that before putting it on 176 00:19:13.460 --> 00:19:21.300 because I don't care. I like it. This is my shirt. When I worship and the song says, 177 00:19:21.620 --> 00:19:30.260 I enter into your courts with praise and into your presence with thanksgiving. I make it my 178 00:19:30.260 --> 00:19:37.460 own. Did you know that Bozo wrote that song? Don't care about Bozo. Don't plan on meeting Bozo. 179 00:19:38.100 --> 00:19:44.980 Don't want to hear anymore about Bozo. I am worshiping the Lord. Friends and family of the Christian 180 00:19:45.060 --> 00:19:51.940 Church. In some areas, we're going to have to suffer with one another until we get to heaven. 181 00:19:53.220 --> 00:19:59.780 Because if you try to find a perfect church with the perfect pastor and the perfect worship team 182 00:19:59.780 --> 00:20:08.100 and the perfect songs, you will never go to church. You'll be all by yourself sinning against 183 00:20:08.180 --> 00:20:15.460 God because you have violated Hebrews 10, 25 and you have decided to forsake the assembling together. 184 00:20:18.100 --> 00:20:25.140 We need to grow some skin, tough skin, and we need to stop being gossips and to stop whining. 185 00:20:25.860 --> 00:20:31.220 And if your conscience is being violated, don't participate. If your conscience is being 186 00:20:31.940 --> 00:20:38.660 violated, find a new church. If your conscience is being violated, it might be that you have to 187 00:20:38.660 --> 00:20:44.340 bite your lip and exercise some grace and get through that one song because it's the only 188 00:20:44.340 --> 00:20:50.340 song in the repertoire at your church, all the other songs you love, but that one song drives you 189 00:20:50.340 --> 00:20:57.860 nuts. When that song comes on, just go somewhere else. It's really easy for you to go somewhere else 190 00:20:57.860 --> 00:21:02.100 because it's hard for you. Listen, when we pray and we worship, it's easy for us to check out and 191 00:21:02.100 --> 00:21:12.900 go to Lala land. Just until heaven comes, you're going to have to work through that. This is super 192 00:21:12.900 --> 00:21:18.420 practical stuff. I feel as though I sat down with someone right now privately because it's exactly 193 00:21:19.300 --> 00:21:24.580 what I've said to people privately. You're going to have to be the judge of your own conscience 194 00:21:24.660 --> 00:21:32.900 and your own heart. But number one, the Bible must be the judge of that song. It's got to be 195 00:21:32.900 --> 00:21:38.180 doctrinally accurate based upon scripture and its meaning. Okay? Think about that. 196 00:21:39.380 --> 00:21:44.580 So listen, until next time, God bless you guys and subscribe if you cared too. We'd love to have 197 00:21:44.580 --> 00:21:50.340 you do that. 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